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The Polish authorities announced their intentions to develop nuclear energy

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The Polish authorities, which in recent years, together with their Lithuanian colleagues, were indignant about the "danger of building a nuclear power plant in Belarus", have now announced that they are ready to develop their own nuclear energy. According to the Polish media, in connection with the problems that await the Polish coal industry against the background of requirements from the EU for environmental friendliness, Warsaw is considering the possibility of building six nuclear power units at once.


To begin with, it should be noted that at one time they began to build a nuclear power plant on the territory of Poland. This is the Zarnowiec nuclear power plant located not far from Gdansk. The design capacity of the nuclear power plant, which Soviet specialists helped the Poles to build, was estimated at 1860 MW. The construction of the Zharnovets NPP began in 1983, with plans to use VVER-440 reactors. However, in 1990, construction was stopped. The official reason for the termination of construction was called "negative impact on the environment."

Now, apparently, the Polish authorities are going to pay less attention to the environment, and therefore the new project "Energy Policy of Poland 2040" talks about plans for the development of nuclear energy with the construction of 6 power units at 4 sites.

Polish Minister of Climate and Environment Michal Kurtyk:

We will probably start building the first nuclear power plant in Pomerania.

Meanwhile, the newspaper Polityka Energetyczna indicates that the construction of the 1st power unit of the Polish nuclear power plant is planned to begin before 2026. And the total capacity of Polish nuclear power plants is planned to be increased to 2043-6 GW by 9.

The same publication stated that the construction of a nuclear power plant in Pomerania "can be completed by about 70 percent by the efforts of exclusively Polish companies." However, it is added that they will cooperate with some research centers. What specific centers in question are not reported, just as it is not reported which reactors are going to be installed at promising nuclear power plants Warsaw.
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  1. Mouse
    Mouse 3 February 2021 17: 31
    +18
    Warsaw is considering the possibility of building six nuclear power units at once.

    !!!!!! It's not even funny ... belay
    1. credo
      credo 3 February 2021 18: 06
      +26
      Quote: Mouse
      Warsaw is considering the possibility of building six nuclear power units at once.

      !!!!!! It's not even funny ... belay

      What a laugh. It is high time the leading EU countries think about the real need to inject such huge tranches of money into Poland so that later she would not tell them "Adyu".
      Germany does not need a too independent Poland at all, let alone an independent one in terms of energy, and even more so, given that Poland is trying to tie the Baltic states, Belarus and Ukraine onto itself.
      And given the fact that 99,9% Poland will choose as a contractor and operator of future nuclear power plants not Russia, which exports spent fuel to Russia, but any third country that will leave spent fuel in Poland, the Germans urgently need to take preventive measures against such a difficult neighbor.
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 3 February 2021 18: 14
        +16
        Germans urgently need to take preventive measures against such a difficult neighbor.

        They will not have time to blink an eye ... already Rzeczpospolita 2.0 ... and we will erase it from the card ...
        bully
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 3 February 2021 18: 38
        +4
        Quote: credo
        And given the fact that 99,9% of Poland will choose as a contractor and operator of future nuclear power plants not Russia, which exports spent fuel to Russia, but

        It will turn out like the Finns with the last nuclear power plant. And the problems with the project, then with the construction of leapfrog, and then the money flowed somewhere. When many firms are involved, don't expect anything good.
        1. Alexey Makarych
          Alexey Makarych 3 February 2021 19: 55
          +10
          Let the amers choose - Westinghouse is our favorite! And they will not build, and spend money (drink), and must stay! Give Fort Trump in six blocks! In reality, as far as I know, only Russia and China can now build. And France still somehow "flutters" in this direction. (and Europe as a whole hopes for thermonuclear fusion. Well, for these - wind / sun and water);)
          1. Keer
            Keer 3 February 2021 23: 09
            +3
            Europe as a whole hopes for thermonuclear fusion
            faster the Second Coming will happen than a positive energy balance in controlled fusion plants.
            1. Keer
              Keer 4 February 2021 01: 00
              0
              Chubais about fusion, do not accidentally tell lol
        2. Olddetractor
          Olddetractor 3 February 2021 20: 02
          +4
          Fly so fly, I'll wave my hand!
          1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
            Nikolay Ivanov_5 3 February 2021 20: 50
            +2
            Fly psekam well fried with a crispy crust.
      3. Labrador
        Labrador 3 February 2021 18: 42
        +2
        taking into account that Poland by 99,9% will choose not Russia as a contractor and operator of future nuclear power plants

        the greenest Westinghouse Electric Company and General Electric go
        1. Beby
          Beby 3 February 2021 19: 27
          +8
          Quote: Labrador
          the greenest Westinghouse Electric Company and General Electric go
          Who were they involved in the construction of the Fukushima-1 NPP (which was scattered to pieces) and the supply of fuel for it?
          1. Quadro
            Quadro 3 February 2021 22: 03
            +5
            Quote: Beby
            Quote: Labrador
            the greenest Westinghouse Electric Company and General Electric go
            Who were they involved in the construction of the Fukushima-1 NPP (which was scattered to pieces) and the supply of fuel for it?

            And who have completely lost their competence in this area and all the personnel.
        2. Alexey Makarych
          Alexey Makarych 3 February 2021 19: 58
          +5
          Taki for Poles - YES! Master has the best! Especially if you raise the data when the "most environmentally friendly" last power unit was built / put into operation and with what cost overruns in terms of time and budget. But the process itself is important (for a real Pole)!
        3. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 3 February 2021 22: 53
          +5
          Quote: Labrador
          taking into account that Poland by 99,9% will choose not Russia as a contractor and operator of future nuclear power plants

          the greenest Westinghouse Electric Company and General Electric go

          Naturally. Choosing Russia as a contractor for the construction of a nuclear power plant -
          They are the wrong bees and they give the wrong honey.

          Poland imports about half of its electricity consumption. More than 90% of its own electricity is generated at thermal power plants. Which work on "aggressive Russian gas" and "totalitarian Russian coal" The Polish energy sector depends on Russian supplies by 70-90% and the Polish authorities have been quite happy with this so far. Poland's own reserves of brown coal do not make the weather, moreover, not a thermal power plant, but a school boiler house, can work on brown coal.
          Former US Secretary of Energy Dan Bruyette expressed the main goal of Poland's telescopes very clearly -
          In the case of Poland, we help reduce its energy dependence on Russia.
          From Westinghouse or from J-E, and even from American liquefied gas, this is not a dependence. This is an honor for Poland.

          And for some reason, one more question is not being discussed either in our country or, moreover, in Poland. And if Germany is against - and she will definitely be against for many reasons. And what if Germany, on behalf of the European Union (as the main "locomotive") says: "To the leg"? America is THERE and speaks good words. And Germany is HERE and feeds. Who will the Poles choose?
          1. Labrador
            Labrador 4 February 2021 00: 47
            +2
            if Germany on behalf of the European Union (as the main "locomotive") says: "To the leg"? America is THERE and speaks good words. And Germany is HERE and feeds. Who will the Poles choose?

            At this point, looking at what kind of diet Germany will plant Poland (this is 1). What will it be for Germany from the hegemon (this is 2). What will be at the helm in Poland (this is 3).
            And the fact that the Germans are happy with this Polish dream will not be for sure.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 4 February 2021 10: 17
              +1
              Quote: Labrador
              What will it be for Germany from the hegemon (this is 2).

              I somehow did not take this into account ... what And the rest of your two points follow from this.
              Quote: Labrador
              And the fact that the Germans are happy with this Polish dream will not be for sure.

              And it's not even about the vaunted German "green energy". Frenchev is tolerated ... Energy independence is a step towards independence in general. And in relation to Poland it is not necessary from the word "absolutely".

              What are we discussing here! Poles still have no money for these nuclear power plants. America will not give money for THIS - this is not a military base and not Russophobia. Germany will not give even more. And the talks of the FORMER US Secretary of State about energy independence from Russia are so - blah blah blah ...
          2. abrakadabre
            abrakadabre 4 February 2021 21: 33
            +1
            America is THERE and speaks good words. And Germany is HERE and feeds. Who will the Poles choose?
            Of course he will choose America. Because Germany is nourishing the country, and America is nourishing the leadership of this country. Therefore, the interests of the elite are more important than the interests of the country. An example of this is even Ukraine, even the Baltic states, even Poland itself. Where is the big Polish industry? For example shipbuilding.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 5 February 2021 03: 23
              0
              Quote: abrakadabre
              Where is the big Polish industry? For example shipbuilding.

              I know where ... Only if I say what I think, they will be banned for mate again ...
              1. abrakadabre
                abrakadabre 5 February 2021 08: 07
                0
                Only if I say what I think, they will again be banned for mate ...
                Use allegory wassat
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 5 February 2021 08: 24
                  0
                  Quote: abrakadabre
                  Only if I say what I think, they will again be banned for mate ...
                  Use allegory wassat

                  1. abrakadabre
                    abrakadabre 5 February 2021 10: 36
                    +1
                    good Exactly. And let them try to ban. laughing
    2. Olgovich
      Olgovich 3 February 2021 18: 08
      +11
      Quote: Mouse
      Warsaw is considering the possibility of building six nuclear power units at once.

      !!!!!! It's not even funny ... belay

      It is interesting that Lithuania, mentioned in the article as an ardent opponent of the Belarusian Atomic EP, imports energy from dirty coal power plants in Poland and ... nuclear power plants in Scandinavia

      Such "care" about the environment ... lol
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 3 February 2021 18: 27
        +15
        Lithuania, mentioned in the article as an ardent opponent of the Belarusian Atomic Power Plant, imports energy from Poland's dirty coal power plants and ... Scandinavian nuclear power plants.

        This is different. You must understand. Like molecules of freedom .. The Western atom is safe and peaceful, in contrast to the vicious and belligerent Russian ...
        1. poquello
          poquello 3 February 2021 18: 58
          +5
          Quote: paul3390
          Western atom - safe and peaceful

          shaggy tomatoes grow in Japan
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 3 February 2021 23: 10
            +7
            Quote: poquello
            Quote: paul3390
            Western atom - safe and peaceful

            shaggy tomatoes grow in Japan

            It's just that the Young Michurinist club was opened in Fukushima. GE Toshiba are such entertainers-Michurinists ...
            1. abrakadabre
              abrakadabre 4 February 2021 21: 35
              +1
              About the above photos: This is a logical continuation of Twix bars. Now in the beds. Here they are, double portions !!! wassat
      2. credo
        credo 3 February 2021 18: 31
        +7
        Quote: Olgovich
        Quote: Mouse
        Warsaw is considering the possibility of building six nuclear power units at once.

        !!!!!! It's not even funny ... belay

        It is interesting that Lithuania, mentioned in the article as an ardent opponent of the Belarusian Atomic EP, imports energy from dirty coal power plants in Poland and ... nuclear power plants in Scandinavia

        Such "care" about the environment ... lol

        With the frightening speed with which the Baltic republics are getting rid of all industry that they got a gift from the Russian Empire and the USSR, they will soon not need this electrical energy too much.
        They will return to the villages and farmsteads, put windmills or mini-hydroelectric power plants on the rivers there and be content with little. This is the happiness of the Baltic and we should no longer interfere with this, because this is how they see their freedom.
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 4 February 2021 21: 37
          0
          they will put wind turbines or mini-hydroelectric power plants on the rivers
          I hesitate to ask, where does the money come from for such not cheap installations? They cost money by the way. Unlike free (from the USSR) power grids.
      3. Alexey Makarych
        Alexey Makarych 3 February 2021 20: 01
        +2
        It's still a classic! - "you don't understand! This is different!" Do not worry - I myself am one of the "not understanding" - we stood on that, we stand and will stand.
      4. Brturin
        Brturin 3 February 2021 20: 36
        0
        Quote: Olgovich
        It is interesting that Lithuania, mentioned in the article as an ardent opponent of the Belarusian Atomic Power Plant, imports energy from the dirty coal power plants of Poland and ... nuclear power plants of Scandinavia

        just now...
        "The latest figures show that 50% of all electricity, and this is 77 million kilowatt-hours, which come through the Lithuanian-Belarusian link, is Ostrovets, and the other half is from Russia. Exactly the same amount is purchased on the Latvian exchange. This electricity does not physically show through to Latvia, and across the border to Lithuania, since we have a very large electricity deficit, we use this electricity and pay for it, "said Lithuanian Energy Minister Dainius Kreivis. He specified that 77 million kilowatt-hours came to Lithuania over the past 10 days, when the BelNPP was operating stably.
        https://lv.sputniknews.ru/Baltics/20210203/15120787/Litva-zakupila-elektroenergiyu-s-BelAES-na-4-mln-evro.html
    3. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 3 February 2021 18: 30
      -2
      Quote: Mouse
      !!!!!! Not even funny.

      Will be ordered from Rosatom. laughing The most modern reactors, VVR 1200. Safe, powerful, durable ... Yes, half of the Poles will cut the wires and live with torches ...
    4. RealPilot
      RealPilot 3 February 2021 21: 55
      0
      Lithuania will not give them ... And the EU at the same time, because no way!
      They have not yet digested the Belarusian nuclear power plant and have not accepted it as a fact, but here is Poland. He wants not only energy independence, but also a cross-border electricity supplier to become ...
  2. Doccor18
    Doccor18 3 February 2021 17: 34
    +12
    ... they have now announced that they are ready to develop their own nuclear energy.

    Chatter, chatter, and the economy can only develop with an excess of electricity.
    Where to get it? The coal industry was gouged, under the cheerful hooting of the "greens", it is a pride to take gas and oil from Russia, it is expensive from the USA ...
    It is very interesting who will build the nuclear power plant for them? Are they not Chinese ...?
    1. Mouse
      Mouse 3 February 2021 17: 36
      +6
      Itself, herself, herself .... laughing
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 3 February 2021 17: 40
      0
      Reptilians will fly from Mars - the kidok of the German neighbors, they close it. Polish-build.
    3. Brturin
      Brturin 3 February 2021 18: 32
      0
      Quote: Doccor18
      It is very interesting who will build the nuclear power plant for them?

      In October announced the agreement with the states
      As part of the agreements, Poland will also build six large nuclear reactors. Under the agreements reached, Warsaw will purchase US technology worth $ 18 billion. "This 30-year agreement, the first of its kind, represents a strong energy link between the United States. and Poland, "- noted in the American Ministry of Energy. Over the next 18 months, Washington and Warsaw will work together on a report containing the project for the implementation of the Polish nuclear power program, as well as its financing mechanism. https://tass.ru/ekonomika/9757867
      Let's see how strong the "embrace" is - the Bulgarians seem to have decided instead of Belene a new reactor at Kozloduy - "During the negotiations, they said that they did not plan to offer their AP-1000 reactor to Bulgaria, but would support the idea of ​​using the equipment that was supplied as part of the Belene project. - said Temenuzhka Petkova at a government meeting, adding that Westinghouse will carry out the project with the existing equipment
      https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/01/22/ssha-za-bolgariya-reshila-stroit-rossiysko-amerikanskiy-atomnyy-reaktor
      1. credo
        credo 3 February 2021 18: 59
        +4
        Quote: BrTurin
        AP 1000

        It's kind of like a French reactor, which they still can't debug and hand over to a customer in Finland. According to some reports, the reactor is very "raw" and does not yet have a positive history.
        But, as you can see, hunting is worse than bondage.
        1. Brturin
          Brturin 3 February 2021 20: 15
          0
          The reactor and some of the equipment are Russian, what they received and paid for after the trial, but Westinghous seems to be at the head of the new construction. Let's see what the Poles choose ...
          1. PSih2097
            PSih2097 3 February 2021 21: 07
            +3
            Quote: BrTurin
            Let's see what the Poles choose ...

            what they command in the DC regional committee will be chosen ...
          2. Quadro
            Quadro 3 February 2021 22: 06
            +3
            Quote: BrTurin
            The reactor and some of the equipment are Russian, what they received and paid for after the trial, but Westinghous seems to be at the head of the new construction. Let's see what the Poles choose ...

            Westinghouse has already profiled all the possibilities and skills for building a nuclear power plant, in recent years they have not been able to build anything really, but they saw it down.
          3. abc_alex
            abc_alex 4 February 2021 06: 36
            +3
            Quote: BrTurin
            The reactor and some of the equipment are Russian, what they received and paid for after the trial, but Westinghous seems to be at the head of the new construction. Let's see what the Poles choose ...

            Westinghouse can't lead anything. Because his construction department went bankrupt and liquidated several years ago. Moreover, it is burdened with obligations to complete the construction of the ryazh objects in the USA.
            Moreover, he will not be able to build any Russian reactor. Rosatom does not sell power plants separately. He builds them himself within the framework of a comprehensive program, where no Westinghouses invite, have not invited and are not going to invite. Perhaps the use of some equipment from other developers and manufacturers, but only after its integration into the project by Rosatom itself.
            In addition, the Westinghouse was noted for its extremely low competence in China, where the construction of a nuclear power plant by it turned into a circus with horses.

            The whole laughter is that the dreams of Poles about nuclear energy stumble upon two insoluble questions: only Russians can build, and the Poles will not call them due to clinical Russophobia, and ... there is no money. Poland has no money even for one station. She is seeking EU sponsorship. And the Germans are unlikely to abandon their own nuclear power plants in order to be built around the perimeter of the borders.
      2. pytar
        pytar 4 February 2021 00: 23
        +3
        Bulgarians seem to have decided instead of Belene a new reactor at Kozloduy

        According to the latest information, an option was chosen for the construction of new reactors, not at the Belene NPP site, but as an extension of the operating Kozloduy NPP. This means a Russian reactor equipped with a turbine hall and a General Electric turbine generator installation. The current Soviet reactors / 5th and 6th / at the Kozloduy NPP were successfully licensed until 2047 and 2049, respectively. As for the already constructed site of the Belene NPP, its fate is not decided. The government says it is considering proposals for the supply of new technology US mini-reactors, which are expected to be licensed in the EU in 2027. This type of small-size reactors are easily transported, installed on the principle of batteries, adding new capacities without limit if necessary. The system is flexible and less demanding on infrastructure.
    4. Simargl
      Simargl 3 February 2021 18: 44
      0
      Quote: Doccor18
      The coal industry was gouged, under the cheerful hooting of the "greens"
      There is no coal left in Europe.
      Quote: Doccor18
      who will build them a nuclear power plant? Are they not Chinese ...?
      To see the Pole in the dark?
      1. Alexey Makarych
        Alexey Makarych 3 February 2021 20: 05
        +5
        Coal remained in Poland, as it were, but production is expensive. From Russia it is cheaper. And yet yes - the market strangled the Polish production. As well as the shipyards of Gdansk (hello to the Solidarity trade union!).
        1. Simargl
          Simargl 3 February 2021 21: 17
          +2
          Quote: Alexey Makarych
          Coal remained in Poland, as it were, but production is expensive.
          "As if" is the whole point: coal is the cheapest fuel, but it is expensive to extract the remains.

          Quote: Alexey Makarych
          Like the shipyards of Gdansk
          It was not the market that strangled the shipyard, but new "friends". The market finished off.
    5. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 3 February 2021 19: 47
      0
      The coal was not gouged. There are simply EU limits on the types of power plants. Apparently, they stayed at the NPP. So they will build and sell to Germany.
      By the way, according to my information, a cascade of mini hydroelectric stations is being built on the Oder. Each with a capacity of 19 MW.
      Selling energy to the West is profitable. An example is the same joint ventures.
  3. svp67
    svp67 3 February 2021 17: 38
    +9
    The Polish authorities ... announced that they are ready to develop their own nuclear energy.
    This news should be considered in conjunction with the news that the Baltic countries and Ukraine are disconnected from the unified energy system with Russia and Belarus and are connected to such an EU system ...
    The Poles just decided to make money on it - "business and nothing personal"
    1. Dimide
      Dimide 3 February 2021 18: 02
      +1
      But what about the "EU green standard"?
      1. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 3 February 2021 18: 09
        +12
        Quote: Dimid
        But what about the "EU green standard"?

        A green candy wrapper put on someone's eye will allow you to put ... um-hmm ... on green standards ... wink laughing
        1. Dimide
          Dimide 3 February 2021 18: 27
          -1
          No, it doesn't work for them, except that by some miracle they lobby through the EU
          1. Brturin
            Brturin 3 February 2021 20: 27
            0
            Quote: Dimid
            miraculously lobby through the EU

            So they are not alone - Bulgarians, Hungarians, Czechs - they all have nuclear power plants and everyone is going to build new units ... on the other hand, without a nuclear power plant, the Poles will spoil all plans for decarbonization for the ESC members, than replace their coal generation, and leave the Poles as an exception , they have already hinted that they will not be in time by 2050, maybe by 2070 ... so that maybe the EU and Ν-sum will be promoted, hinting that they need to fork out from the Fair Transition Fund ...
      2. ANB
        ANB 4 February 2021 00: 10
        0
        ... But what about the "EU green standard"?

        So a nuclear power plant is nowhere greener. From radiation, then a green glow comes. :)
    2. poquello
      poquello 3 February 2021 18: 45
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      The Poles just decided to make money on it - "business and nothing personal"

      probably not Poles, but Westinghouse unfinished, that is, terrible American hands growing from the seat
    3. abc_alex
      abc_alex 4 February 2021 06: 42
      0
      Quote: svp67
      The Polish authorities ... announced that they are ready to develop their own nuclear energy.
      This news should be considered in conjunction with the news that the Baltic countries and Ukraine are disconnected from the unified energy system with Russia and Belarus and are connected to such an EU system ...
      The Poles just decided to make money on it - "business and nothing personal"

      There is no business. After the construction of the Belarusian nuclear power plant, the region is abundant in energy. The reluctance (not the Baltic states) of Lithuania to buy electricity from Russia and Belarus is the purest policy, and how the EU supports the political fools of the new Europeans, look at the example of the LNG theominal in Lithuania.
      In addition, Lithuania itself rushes with the project of a new nuclear power plant, she was promised it in exchange for the closure of Ingalina. And they are not going to build, precisely because of the economic insolvency of the project.
  4. Torins
    Torins 3 February 2021 17: 39
    +11
    Oh, that's why they spread rot on the Belarusian nuclear power plant, they are afraid that it will not be enough for their work ...
  5. Tests
    Tests 3 February 2021 17: 41
    +7
    Why is the nuclear power plant builder not France? Number 2, after RF, in the nuclear industry.
    1. Petr Vladimirovich
      Petr Vladimirovich 3 February 2021 17: 59
      +1
      That in fact it is. By the way, French NPPs always have a dome that can withstand a direct hit from Boeing, on which nothing of the equipment hangs !!!
      1. dmmyak40
        dmmyak40 3 February 2021 18: 09
        +3
        Can't it stand here?
        1. Petr Vladimirovich
          Petr Vladimirovich 3 February 2021 18: 26
          +1
          The photos of Bushehr also have domes ...
        2. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 3 February 2021 22: 20
          0
          Quote: Petr Vladimirovich
          By the way, French nuclear power plants always have a dome that can withstand a direct Boeing hit,
          Quote: dmmyak40
          Can't it stand here?

          And we have the same thing. The exception was Chernobyl, which was built according to some tricky project, where it was easier to load fuel. There would have been a dome, perhaps there would have been no emissions into the atmosphere (everything would have remained under the dome)
          PS
          The opinion is not mine, it is found in the topics about this accident.
          1. dmmyak40
            dmmyak40 3 February 2021 22: 40
            +3
            He worked at the Volgodonsk NPP: he communicated with the builders and engineers of the station, witnessed the filling of the monolithic shell of the power unit. The volumes are colossal: around the clock pouring concrete over a very long period. Boeing has nothing to do there, the safety margin is excellent.
      2. Jager
        Jager 3 February 2021 19: 48
        +2
        VVERs are much smaller than RBMKs, which occupy a huge area. "Canals" cannot be closed with a shell, water-water ones are RELATIVELY safer in this matter. Although Fukushima has proven otherwise.
        In fact, these are atomic "samovars". But reactors with a liquid metal coolant are much more interesting. But they are much more expensive and more complicated.
      3. Quadro
        Quadro 3 February 2021 22: 08
        +1
        French people?! It's funny. The second after us are the Chinese, the French will soon be like the Americans.
    2. abc_alex
      abc_alex 4 February 2021 06: 50
      +1
      Quote: Tests
      Why is the nuclear power plant builder not France? Number 2, after RF, in the nuclear industry.

      Because the French essentially do not have a "post-Fukushima" project. The construction of a nuclear power plant in Finland caused Arev's insolvency as an organizer and led to its actual liquidation as an independent company. As far as I remember, now its facilities have been transferred to the operating company. And not engaged in construction. Behind Areva herself there is an encumbrance in the form of an obligation to complete and launch a nuclear power plant in Finland, which she coped very poorly with much later and for a lot more money. That is, in fact, the French do not have a construction company.

      In general, only Rosatom and the Chinese are building nuclear power plants in series and without problems in the world. And the latter attract the former ...
  6. Masha
    Masha 3 February 2021 17: 42
    +7
    I have a desire to buy a house, but I cannot. ...
    1. Asad
      Asad 3 February 2021 17: 50
      -3
      Russia builds for the Turks for free, then we will calculate.
      1. cniza
        cniza 3 February 2021 18: 01
        +3
        Do you think Poland will too, well, firstly they have an owner and he will decide, and secondly, even if Poland asks, Russia will definitely not build ...
        1. Mouse
          Mouse 3 February 2021 18: 08
          +9
          Russia will definitely not build ...

          With this, I would argue ... your money ... as it was said above, business and nothing personal ... the question is different, zapadlo Poland to ask Russia ... wink
          1. abc_alex
            abc_alex 4 February 2021 06: 56
            +2
            Quote: Mouse
            Russia will definitely not build ...

            With this, I would argue ... your money ... as it was said above, business and nothing personal ... the question is different, zapadlo Poland to ask Russia ... wink

            And there is no money. That's the laughter. "Showcase of capitalism" showing rosy statistics, cannot find 5-10 billion to buy a nuclear power plant. They even agree with the state officials to build according to the "Rosatom scheme" of joint ownership, although they just have a declaration there ...
            Yes, it is unlikely that Rosatom will go to Poland. Any contract with her now is a swim in the sewers. No matter how you sail and wherever you sail, you are always in de ... me.
  7. Russ
    Russ 3 February 2021 17: 56
    +1
    The Polish authorities, which in recent years, together with their Lithuanian colleagues, were indignant about the "danger of building a nuclear power plant in Belarus", now announced that they are ready to develop their own nuclear power

    Himself hot to the priest .....
  8. Soveticos
    Soveticos 3 February 2021 18: 05
    -2
    Polska a bomb in futur?
  9. Prisoner
    Prisoner 3 February 2021 18: 09
    +1
    And who will build? winked
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 3 February 2021 18: 23
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      Quote: Captive
      And who will build? winked

      Nephews from Ukraine. laughing
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 3 February 2021 18: 52
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      Well, the choice is small:
      Rosatom disappears.
      NPCIL - it is possible, but they will even launch a thousand-meter unit only in bright plans. And the technology is not great there.

      HSNPC / DEC / CNNC - the master will not allow. Fort Trump and Mr. Xi Jinping's nuclear power plants don't go together.
      KEPCO is possible. They have a good reactor and, for example, they are building a 4x1400 station for the UAE.

      Westinghouse - the master approves. But there will be big problems with technologies, prices and rates.
      The Hitachi boiler is not suitable for Poles.

      And the main candidate is Areva. EU. Loans. The best technology. Best tempos. Achievement of the most powerful reactor in the world - EPR-1750. He is one of the most modern and the first third generation.
      1. Babalaykin
        Babalaykin 3 February 2021 19: 55
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        Areva? EPR-1750 at the Finnish nuclear power plant for 12 years cannot finish) haha

        https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/olkiluoto_3_reactor_delayed_yet_again_now_12_years_behind_schedule/11128489

        The fifth nuclear reactor in Finland will begin regular operation no earlier than 2021, and not in 2009, as originally planned.
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 3 February 2021 20: 48
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          Well, this is the problem of the Finns. For the Chinese, they were only 1 year overdue, and then there was force majeure (in France, potential problems emerged, and they were being finalized with an overlap in reliability) - in total, it was 8,5 years. The station is in active operation. For comparison, China builds 1000 plants in 6-6,5 years. Quite good enough for 2 years, an increase of 750 per reactor.
          1. abc_alex
            abc_alex 4 February 2021 07: 12
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            Quote: donavi49
            Well, this is the problem of the Finns. For the Chinese, they were only 1 year overdue, and then there was force majeure (in France, potential problems emerged, and they were being finalized with an overlap in reliability) - in total, it was 8,5 years. The station is in active operation. For comparison, China builds 1000 plants in 6-6,5 years. Quite good enough for 2 years, an increase of 750 per reactor.

            For a year? The commissioning of the Sanmen NPP was planned in 2012. And in 2013, there was a battle there with the MCP. The station was commissioned in 2018, which is 6 years later. The estimated price of a kilowatt on it has grown almost 9 times. And there was no force majeure, just Westinghouse tried to build a nuclear power plant with certification "upon availability." That is, the construction began BEFORE the approval of the project by the Chinese regulator, with OBVIOUS jambs and imperfections.
            1. donavi49
              donavi49 4 February 2021 08: 56
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              Well, you write about an American station - I wrote about this manufacturer:
              Westinghouse - the master approves. But there will be big problems with technologies, prices and rates.
              And in general there are 1000 blocks, standard and boring.

              I wrote about the Areva EPR-1750 blocks - the most powerful in the world. They were building the Taishan nuclear power plant. Construction began in late 2009-early 2010. First start-ups for the Christmas tree in 2018. Connection to the network - summer-late 2018.

              The delay of one year is due to anomalies detected during monitoring and flaw detection at the French station. The Chinese demanded to cover this potential problem. Areva did.

              Total 6-6,5 years for a 1000 unit from CNNC, for example, Yangjiang NPP, or 8,5 years for a 1750 unit from Areva. It is quite possible to wait wink .
              1. abc_alex
                abc_alex 4 February 2021 10: 04
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                Sorry I did not understand.
                hi
              2. Turist1996
                Turist1996 4 February 2021 17: 28
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                That's it, that construction began before the Fukushima accident. And what kind of "most modern reactors" do you write about in this case ?!
              3. Turist1996
                Turist1996 4 February 2021 17: 59
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                Here is the link regarding Areva and the EPR-1750:
                https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://geoenergetics.ru/2016/09/26/konkurenty-rosatoma-franciya/&ved=2ahUKEwiT8uaKvdDuAhWQ-6QKHZdfA68QFjACegQIIhAB&usg=AOvVaw31cd2hGWLcHHOoJeFYdMzY
      2. Turist1996
        Turist1996 4 February 2021 17: 24
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        To begin with, you would read profile articles (at least Boris Martsinkevich on Geoenergy), and then write about "The best technologies. The best rates. The most powerful reactor" and other crap from Areva marketing brochures.
        Ask about the "best rates" of the Finns to check ..
        As for "one of the most modern and first third generation" - real representative reactors of "post-Fukushima" design, approved by the IAEA, are only at Rosatom.
  10. newcomer
    newcomer 3 February 2021 18: 29
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    In Pomerania? Did they ask Merkel? Or will Pomerania be returned with interest to the nuclear power plant in the future? laughing laughing laughing
    1. Turist1996
      Turist1996 4 February 2021 17: 29
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      CPN is a cunning plan of the Germans, isn't it ?! laughing
  11. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 3 February 2021 18: 52
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    The Polish authorities ................. now announced thethat they are ready to develop their own nuclear energy.
    belay Yes, to declare is necessary and sufficient. fool
  12. Dart2027
    Dart2027 3 February 2021 18: 57
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    Do they know how?
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 3 February 2021 19: 10
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      Of course not. Everything depends on denyUZHKI. Who will build and for how much.
  13. evgen1221
    evgen1221 3 February 2021 19: 07
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    Well, in general, using its influence and strength, Europe slows down its neighbor once, does not want to buy two. This is understandable, but where the lords will take pennies, as well as how long they will give
  14. Vadim Ananyin
    Vadim Ananyin 3 February 2021 19: 23
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    From the beginning it was necessary to strangle everyone around Lithuania, Latvia and try Belarus and proclaim itself the center of energy in Eastern Europe by building a nuclear power plant.
    Learn, then they will say that all of them owe the listed ones, because!
    1. Petr Vladimirovich
      Petr Vladimirovich 3 February 2021 20: 27
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      And I personally like the Poles, we have lunch in Lodz with partners, we poison stories in three languages ​​with wonderful beer.
      One for fun, since at the exhibition in Crocus a person comes up with a question, he has a question:
      Are you a driver or a product? That one, WHAT?
      And the question was actually innocent - are you a wholesaler or a production worker ..
  15. orionvitt
    orionvitt 3 February 2021 21: 01
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    indignant about the "danger of building a nuclear power plant in Belarus", now announced that they are ready to develop their own nuclear energy.
    Lying shifters. One question remains. For what pennies? Europe is curtailing subsidies, it itself has problems above the roof. So for what money? laughing
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 3 February 2021 23: 09
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      There is an old scheme - Russian nuclear power plants are dangerous, and American ones are all safe.

      And the money for the NPP will be found from their own funds. Then they will save on buying gas from Russia.
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  17. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 3 February 2021 22: 13
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    It is reasonable to build a nuclear power plant, for Poland it will save on gas.

    They will most likely build with the Americans. One block will cost them 5-10 billion dollars. That is, 6 blocks are 30-60 billion dollars.
  18. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 3 February 2021 23: 10
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    It will be curious to see the victory of common sense and calculation over ambition. Indeed, apart from "ROSATOM" in this matter, by and large, there is no one to turn to. This means that they will have to muffle anti-Russian rhetoric.
    Although, what am I talking about - where are the Poles, and where is common sense laughing
  19. boriz
    boriz 4 February 2021 01: 16
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    Manilovism! Where will they get the money? Germany itself closes its nuclear power plants and will pay for the construction of the Polish, at its side? To compete with your energy sector? Nuclear power plants are not considered green energy in the EU. Nobody will give money for sure.
  20. Yuriy71
    Yuriy71 4 February 2021 01: 17
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    And what's new? The Poles, on the other hand, signed a nuclear power plant construction agreement with the USA last year! Or is the Author not aware of this?
    1. abc_alex
      abc_alex 4 February 2021 07: 16
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      Quote: Yuriy71
      And what's new? The Poles, on the other hand, signed a nuclear power plant construction agreement with the USA last year! Or is the Author not aware of this?

      Study the question carefully. There are no construction contracts. There is a political declaration that if the Poles find money, the US government will not mind that some US company will participate in the project.
  21. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 4 February 2021 15: 48
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    Pokumekali, counted, and chills seized. Now the polarity reversal is outlined. wassat
  22. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 4 February 2021 15: 50
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    They realized early, early, the institutes that know how to design reactors have not yet been dispersed, there are still departments that can train specialists ... They would have to marinate for another ten years and everything would be all right - and the European nuclear industry would finally fall into decay. There would only be books and memories of how the Europeans once knew how to build a nuclear power plant.

    However, not all is lost, we are talking about the idea - to resume, the "green lads" have not said their word yet. And the elections are ahead! Who dares to say before the elections that it is necessary to resume the construction of the nuclear power plant ?! Only the Greeks - they already do not care! Only the Greeks and the nuclear power plant are incompatible things. They seem to have not forgotten how to plant olive trees. Or already with this - "Izya, that's it!" laughing
  23. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 4 February 2021 15: 51
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    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
    It is reasonable to build a nuclear power plant, for Poland it will save on gas.

    They will most likely build with the Americans. One block will cost them 5-10 billion dollars. That is, 6 blocks are 30-60 billion dollars.

    They will most likely build with the Americans. laughing Where did one build something in 10 years? laughing
  24. Cowbra
    Cowbra 4 February 2021 20: 46
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    The virtual enemy defeated the Polish army during the exercises https://www.mk.ru/amp/politics/2021/02/03/virtualnyy-protivnik-razgromil-polskuyu-armiyu-na-ucheniyakh.html
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  27. Egor53
    Egor53 5 February 2021 10: 13
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    "Can be completed by about 70 percent exclusively by Polish companies." What is this nonsense? The lion's share of the cost of a power unit is determined by the cost of the reactor and steam turbine. The Poles cannot do either one or the other. Polish companies can only prepare the site, and even then it is unlikely.
  28. Wolf
    Wolf 5 February 2021 14: 56
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    Already a cold fusia is on its way, do not score as they killed in the 90s, Russian students in the field of cold fusia! wink