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Czech observer: Russia is losing the space race

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The Czech press is discussing the issue of space programs that exist at the moment. Observer Karel Zvonik notes that China has actively joined the space race, which creates its own constellation of satellites for various purposes, delivers spacecraft to the moon with their return and delivery of lunar soil. As the Czech author writes, if two or three decades ago the Chinese successes in space exploration looked quite modest, now the PRC is turning into one of the leaders in this direction.


Karel Zvonik writes about the success of a number of American space programs, not forgetting to mention the implementation of a number of Elon Musk's projects. So, it is indicated that a successful flight followed by docking with the ISS of SpaceX's Crew Dragon spacecraft, for a grandiose work to create a supernetwork of several thousand Starlink satellites to cover the entire surface of the Earth with the Internet.

According to the Czech author, in the United States under Joe Biden, funding for NASA projects may be somewhat reduced, since "Biden is a more down-to-earth president than Donald Trump." And the same China can take advantage of this in order to finally become a leader in space exploration.

Against this background, as Karel Zvonik writes, Russia has lost its significant advantage in space. The Czech author calls it “the end of Russian glory in space”. Zvonik notes that in recent years, Russian officials "allow themselves an inexhaustible stream of statements about numerous space programs and projects."

In the Czech media:

But practically nothing is brought to the end, to its logical conclusion.

It is pointed to the postponement of the implementation of the Russian space program "Luna-Glob", to the incompleteness of projects at the Vostochny cosmodrome.

The author argues that in this regard, Russia does not have a clearly defined goal to which it should strive and at the same time is on schedule.

They vividly present projects, including the project of sending a spacecraft to Venus, the project of commercial flights to the ISS, but so far the Russian space program is in clear crisis. Russia is losing the space race.

At the same time, the Czech observer adds that today the European Space Agency is far from all right with the implementation of space programs - many have been canceled, many have been postponed.
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  1. Engineer Schukin
    Engineer Schukin 3 February 2021 06: 11
    +7
    What a low level of material supply.
    However, there is no material here either.
    1. Civil
      Civil 3 February 2021 06: 42
      +5
      The agony of the remnants of the Soviet space industry is the merit of the whole of Russia, and not just the journalist (
      1. Engineer Schukin
        Engineer Schukin 3 February 2021 06: 44
        +10
        I'm not talking about the Czech observer, but about VO and its level to produce meaningless "news".
        1. Civil
          Civil 3 February 2021 06: 53
          0
          Quote: Engineer Schukin
          I'm not talking about the Czech observer, but about VO and its level to produce meaningless "news".

          This is not the fault of the VO editors. They do not live in the forest, there is "obligatory".
          1. Aerodrome
            Aerodrome 3 February 2021 07: 09
            +4
            Czech observer: Russia is losing the space race
            lie ... our ships ply the Bolshoi Theater ... the next ISS will be called "Rogozin" (but this is not certain)
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              1. military_cat
                military_cat 3 February 2021 09: 00
                -1
                That's what we come here for, don't we? :) If statements of a certain spectrum are supported only by monotonous and rude manipulations even in a publication that is biased towards them, this is an important characteristic of the information field.
                1. slipped
                  slipped 3 February 2021 16: 16
                  +1
                  Quote: military_cat
                  If if statements of a certain spectrum are supported only by monotonous and rude manipulations


                  No, well, really a Czech just tryndit. Most likely he has a lack of information or works on order.

                  Take the phrases: "on the postponement of the implementation of the Russian space program" Luna-Glob ", on the incomplete projects at the" Vostochny "cosmodrome."

                  Luna-25 is flying this year, and the construction of the second stage of the cosmodrome has been going on at Vostochny for a long time.

                  "a project for commercial flights to the ISS, but so far the Russian space program is in clear crisis."

                  Here he generally hits the eye - every year people fly to the ISS on commercial trips on our ships.

                  Custom article.
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 3 February 2021 10: 16
        -1
        Quote: Civil
        The agony of the remnants of the Soviet space industry is the merit of the whole of Russia, and not just the journalist (

        I would have looked at the space successes of mattresses with the Chinese, if they had a chance to survive Gorbachev's perestroika and the Yeltsin-Gaidar reforms with the collapse of industry and defaults.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 3 February 2021 21: 58
          -1
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          if they had a chance to survive Gorbachev's perestroika and Yeltsin-Gaidar reforms with the collapse of industry and defaults.

          Who told you that we all survived this? As they went then (reforms), so they are going now, maybe the pace, however, is slower than steel. The same people in power, those who destroyed the USSR or their relatives or friends, do not forget to lay flowers on Yeltsin's grave. As for the default, then for our economists nothing is impossible, if they can warm their hands on this, then you will have a default.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 3 February 2021 22: 10
            +1
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            if they had a chance to survive Gorbachev's perestroika and Yeltsin-Gaidar reforms with the collapse of industry and defaults.

            Who told you that we all survived this? As they went then (reforms), so they are going now, maybe the pace, however, is slower than steel. The same people in power, those who destroyed the USSR or their relatives or friends, do not forget to lay flowers on Yeltsin's grave. As for the default, nothing is impossible for our economists, if they can warm their hands on this, then you will have a default.

            The meaning of my comment was mostly concerned not with us, but with China and the United States, which, unlike us, avoided "restructuring" with "reforms" aimed at destroying their own industrial complex with the destruction of related industries (chemical industry, radio electronics, etc.) that and is the main factor that we have moved from a leading position to a catch-up position. Do you agree with this?
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 3 February 2021 22: 53
              -1
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Do you agree with this?

              Of course I agree, it is impossible not to agree with this. The only question is that as we slipped into one well-known place, we sit there and do not make any attempts to get out. It is painful to remember that quite recently we were the second economy in the world and the first economy in Europe.
      3. sleeve
        sleeve 3 February 2021 13: 56
        0
        Beauty! They wrote about agony! Great!
        And what did they write?
        About the agony of the Russian cosmos!
        Duck, what's the agony?
        In everything! In everything!
        Who wrote something?
        Great space power Czech Republic. They have an astronaut (or rather half, the second Slovakian) flew into space from the USSR.
      4. nekromonger
        nekromonger 4 February 2021 22: 10
        0
        The bunker grandfather also took part in this process.
  2. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 3 February 2021 06: 12
    +2
    They present brightly, but in fact they are zilch, Rogozin was well pricked smile
    1. Profiler
      Profiler 3 February 2021 06: 32
      +3
      Quote: Pessimist22
      They present brightly, but in fact they are zilch, Rogozin was well pricked


      Czech columnist: Russia is losing the space race


      As a result, they "pin up" the whole country.
      Our "Rosskosmos" and our space program for its "achievements" have not yet kicked, only perhaps a lazy one.
    2. loki565
      loki565 3 February 2021 06: 34
      -4
      They present brightly, but in fact they are zilch, Rogozin was well pricked

      Well, yes, a bright presentation, in fact, a big BOOM)))

      1. military_cat
        military_cat 3 February 2021 09: 05
        0
        You don't understand, this is different.

      2. donavi49
        donavi49 3 February 2021 09: 06
        +7
        Boom is an explosion on the table. If an experimental rocket flew (and in the RK too), then this is already material for data collection. There are preprototypes here. Near CH-10. They have problems with ignition and traction when landing, in the last 10 seconds, when there is no longer any opportunity to make a mistake. And for the first time and now there was only enough fuel for 1 engine.

        Sooner or later, this stage will be completed. Even a 3-4 year delay for this system is just super. For this is a fundamentally new product that makes all heavy missiles in the world obsolete at once.

        Another point is that this rocket can drag Musk along with it not only to Mars, but also to bankruptcy. For again, this is a revolutionary product in technology, materials, engines, flight profile and landing (on the tower), etc. Too much new in one product. This combination can take additional funding and development timeline indefinitely. Whereas competitors are awake. In another couple of years, Falcon9 will begin to be pushed out of the market.
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 3 February 2021 10: 14
          0
          Quote: donavi49
          Another point is that this rocket can pull Musk along with it not only to Mars, but also to bankruptcy.

          Bankruptcy is a financial instrument, nothing more. Even if it happens, it's okay. But it is practically impossible for those wishing to invest in his projects more than the need for this money.
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 3 February 2021 11: 04
            +2
            In the current situation, yes. But it is now in the position of Roscosmos during the period of market domination. That is, the main tool and breadwinner (9ka) is not updated. And the competitors, on the other hand, are making their own launch vehicles at the maximum rate (including using methane).

            He invests all company resources in Starship. I repeat, if it takes off (not test, but at least at the level of 9k 1.1) then this is the groundwork for the next 20-30 years. Well, all heavy launch vehicles can be thrown away, because they do not give such characteristics and economics even close.

            However, if it turns into a long-term construction with a growing wave of problems. Then you can lose a dominant market share, and then a vicious circle - less money - less opportunities for Starship - even less money due to new delays, etc.

            Again, it would be wise to do another 9kw with methane. Improved reuse. Improved performance. Until the 35-40s, the dominant workhorse for conclusions. wink But you can see there are no resources for 3 projects.
            1. OgnennyiKotik
              OgnennyiKotik 3 February 2021 11: 28
              +1
              Several points.
              1. Full commercial launch of Starlink is just around the corner. This project will provide funding for Musk's projects for decades to come.
              2. Yes, the Falcon 9's competitors are shaking it, but the overall commercial launch market is expanding. The launch price of 1 kg falls, the availability increases
              3. State programs. If Boeing's space daughter doesn't reform itself, SpaceX will squeeze it out of major projects. There are also a number of projects in which SpaceX can become the main contractor.

              For SpaceX, especially Musk, I'm not worried at all, they have the right strategy. They diversify their products as much as possible and work for the mass market, corporate and government. Even if Starship fails, it won't drag the corporation down. Moreover, this project is not so expensive at the price, it is not even comparable with the Angara.
      3. mark2
        mark2 3 February 2021 09: 13
        -7
        I will only add that yesterday, December 10, 202o, at the next test launch of the Great ship, the richest space engineer and designer, the American "Queen" from the economists Elon Musk, another zip happened. Another Starship was able to climb only 13 km. But then this achievement was retrained into a planned one.
        But who cares. This is different. Musk is trying, and Rogozin is still launching ships, which, according to local experts, were assembled during the Soviet era.
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 3 February 2021 09: 21
          +5
          He has a resolution of up to 12,5 km in general, and the planned 10-11 km. So if he jumped 13 km, then the FAA will come to him and it will hurt.

          In general, Musk now has problems, they want to trim his wings:
          - There is an investigation into employment. Rascal Musk turns out not to accept people of color or non-binary, simply because they are. Requires knowledge and skills. And this, according to modern trends, is almost flying into the court. The reason, the group statement of laid off recently hired and not hired. For all the comic, this is a very real problem.
          - The FAA is constantly inserting sticks into launch windows. And not only for experienced Starships. But also on 9ki.


          By the way, speaking of 9s - a pair launch of two missiles is planned tomorrow.
          1. mark2
            mark2 3 February 2021 09: 32
            -3
            So if you inquired about the result, the senior ship could not return. Fell. "Ah, gravity, you ruthless female dog"
            1. donavi49
              donavi49 3 February 2021 10: 04
              +6
              So I wrote above - their second rocket crashes due to the failure of the second engine and problems with thrust in the last 10 seconds. Most likely a problem with the fuel supply. After the last rocket - put the boost. Here you can see something else to put.

              It would be much sadder for the mask if it fell apart during a maneuver or a landing coup. There would be trouble with recalculating strength, throwing out prototypes and, in general, + 2-3 years automatically. But both prototypes went through this stage normally.

              In general, there will be many more explosions, because no one knows how it will return to the atmosphere with extreme overloads. And on the 10th time - will the seams crack. In general, work and unexpected problems are still a wagon. Which is logical for a new product, where even the assembly technology is different than that of all existing missiles.
          2. gsev
            gsev 3 February 2021 16: 34
            0
            Indeed, Musk demands from his designers beyond human capabilities. It seems that they are simply not outstanding in talent, knowledge and efficiency, simply do not keep up with the pace set by them. But it seems that his company is not yet experiencing a shortage of personnel. And nieces with nephews of the mighty of this world are not eager to find a job there. Or they don't take root in a collective of workaholics ..
        2. loki565
          loki565 3 February 2021 09: 31
          -4
          This is different. Musk is trying, and Rogozin is still launching ships that, according to local experts, were assembled during the Soviet era.

          Well, you understand that a cosmonautics specialist from Mask is no more than Rogozin, he is a manager and no more))) Imagine if these failed tests were carried out by NASA, whining about squandering taxpayers' money and so on would begin. so they started hating that they would have to close the program. How to proceed? It is very simple to create a subsidiary company, hire some kind of Maxim, allocate money, launching tables, specialists, technologies, etc. Now any failure can be attributed to "private" astronautics and quietly cut the project)))
          1. Blackmokona
            Blackmokona 3 February 2021 09: 46
            +2
            US missiles were developed by Boeing, Lockheed and others. Therefore, there was nothing to give the Mask
          2. donavi49
            donavi49 3 February 2021 11: 10
            0
            Imagine if these failed tests were conducted by NASA


            Well, just recently - SLS farted liquid in tests. And now everyone is running around trying to get in at least in extended terms for the delivery of stages.

            Compared to the money invested in SLS, the entire program of 9ki and Starship is like Betelgeuse (sawmill SLS and Orion) next to the Sun (Mask's space programs).

            I am already silent about Delta Heavy - the most expensive flying serial rocket in the world. The budget buys her regularly, and the Mask is played by the blowers lol ... For DeltaHavi is 420-460 million for start-up and services, while FalconHavi has a hundred thousand rubles. Even the right people cannot be squeezed out of shrinkage, waste and other condensation. wink
          3. mark2
            mark2 3 February 2021 12: 43
            0
            You simply and easily explained everything that I understand about, but I cannot formulate it beautifully and simply. Not a writer, to my great regret
  3. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 3 February 2021 06: 13
    +2
    The author claims that Russia does not have a clearly defined goal in this regard.
    This is fair, but about the race is nonsense, they can easily throw money into some prestigious garbage with us.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 3 February 2021 06: 18
      -1
      But practically nothing is brought to the end, to its logical conclusion.

      It's a shame to hear from these ...
    2. slipped
      slipped 3 February 2021 16: 26
      +1
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      The author claims that Russia does not have a clearly defined goal in this regard.
      This is true.


      What ?! belay The author was even too lazy to read our current federal space program. laughing and sucked everything from a finger ... or from another part of the body.
  4. Alien From
    Alien From 3 February 2021 06: 14
    +8
    Yes ......... it's offensive to listen ..........., but truthfully .......
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 3 February 2021 07: 10
      +1
      Quote: Alien From
      but truthfully .......

      So far alone, no offense ...
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 3 February 2021 07: 26
        +2
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Quote: Alien From
        but truthfully .......

        So far alone, no offense ...

        Him ?
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 3 February 2021 08: 50
          -4
          Quote: Aerodrome
          Until alone
          Already two!
          Apparently pride is bursting ...
  5. svp67
    svp67 3 February 2021 06: 18
    +2
    I wonder if the Czechs have no more problems? Thank you for your opinion, but you deal with your problems there, and we'll somehow deal with our own. And yes, the success of the Czech Republic in the space race ... I don't remember where it is.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 3 February 2021 06: 25
      +7
      the first pilot-cosmonaut of Czechoslovakia, the first person in space who is not a citizen of the USSR or the USA; Major of the Czechoslovak People's Army (CHNA).


      A paradox in the mind of the Czechs ... what 39 years ago Czechoslovakia became the third space power, and then with the help of the damned communists. smile
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 3 February 2021 06: 28
        +20
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        39 years ago Czechoslovakia became the third space power, and then with the help of the damned communists.

        It seems to me and Russia without the communists is unlikely to become a space power.
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 3 February 2021 06: 45
          +3
          It seems to me and Russia without the communists is unlikely to become a space power.
          Of course ... in Russia, Korolev and Gagarin are remembered and honored ... and whether Remek is honored because he became an astronaut under the communists is a big question. hi
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 3 February 2021 06: 49
            0
            Quote: Lech from Android.
            . and whether Remek is honored because he became an astronaut under the communists is a big question.

            Is it?
          2. gsev
            gsev 3 February 2021 16: 38
            +1
            Quote: Lech from Android.
            honor the Queen and Gagarin ... but is Remek honored

            The Queens, Remeks and Gagarins really became the pride of the country under the communists. In the post-communist era, new Remeks and Queens did not appear either in the Czech Republic or in Russia.
        2. Aerodrome
          Aerodrome 3 February 2021 07: 33
          +2
          Quote: mat-vey
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          39 years ago Czechoslovakia became the third space power, and then with the help of the damned communists.

          It seems to me and Russia without the communists is unlikely to become a space power.

          and the Americans without the Nazis ... nothing to do with the party, when people had something to strive for, then they flew. times were such that people, especially young people, especially the Soviet ones, DREAMED and did. Now the eyes of the youth have gone out, they walk with frostbitten ankles, and the same eyes, tiktokers are fucking ... the future of the country ...
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 3 February 2021 07: 37
            +1
            Quote: Aerodrome
            nothing to do with the party

            Quote: Aerodrome
            especially young people, especially Soviet ones,

            Don't you think that you yourself answered?
          2. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 3 February 2021 08: 08
            +4
            Quote: Aerodrome
            walk with frostbitten ankles, and the same eyes, tiktokers are shitty ... the future of the country ...

            I'm even cold looking at a photograph ...
            Frost

            The only warmth is that my own son is now studying in Ryazan, and then - for half his life in ankle boots. Ankles will not freeze.
      2. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 3 February 2021 07: 27
        +2
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        with the help of the damned communists.

        The USSR dragged half the world there.
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 3 February 2021 07: 39
          +4
          Quote: Aerodrome
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          with the help of the damned communists.

          The USSR dragged half the world there.

          Or they could have set up the yachts ... although without them the country could have remained - Aloizovich will not let him lie.
      3. Errr
        Errr 3 February 2021 08: 27
        +4
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        A paradox in the mind of the Czechs ... what 39 years ago Czechoslovakia became the third space power, and then with the help of the damned communists. smile
        From the fact that almost 43 years ago Remek flew into near-earth orbit, Czechoslovakia, alas, did not become a space power. smile
        1. gsev
          gsev 3 February 2021 16: 40
          0
          Quote: Herrr
          Czechoslovakia, alas, did not become a space power.

          Czechoslovakia has occupied and continues to occupy a worthy place in the world industry. Aviation, machine tools, locomotives, cars, weapons, electronics.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 3 February 2021 06: 30
      -4
      Quote: svp67
      I don't remember where she is

      And such a place has not yet been invented.
      But below the bottom, that's for sure
      The USSR took Remek into space and on this basis they believe that the "experts" are already beginning to broadcast something?
      1. AUL
        AUL 3 February 2021 06: 58
        -1
        They took Remek into space - like, they apologized for the Prague spring. In any case, it looked like that then.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 3 February 2021 07: 01
          -1
          Most likely no. Logically, then the Pole should have been launched first.
          We then wondered for a long time why it was a Czech, and not a Bulgarian
          1. AUL
            AUL 3 February 2021 08: 06
            0
            Well, the Polish events were much later. "Solidarity", Lech Walesa ...
          2. NDR-791
            NDR-791 3 February 2021 08: 43
            +1
            We then wondered for a long time why exactly Czech
            And he turned out to be the calmest. He didn't stick his hands where he didn't get, he didn't press the beautiful buttons without asking ... wassat
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 3 February 2021 13: 52
              0
              Quote: NDR-791
              And he turned out to be the calmest. He didn't stick his hands where he didn't get, he didn't press the beautiful buttons without asking ...

              And I never made it to space laughing
        2. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 3 February 2021 08: 12
          +3
          Quote: AUL
          They took Remek into space - like, they apologized for the Prague spring. In any case, it looked like that then.

          And what did they apologize to the Mongols or the Vietnamese? Well, before the Poles, it’s clear - for Ivan Susanin ... Was that how it looked then?
          1. AUL
            AUL 3 February 2021 08: 19
            +2
            Then the whole socialist camp was rolling for prestige. The question was why first Remek, not a Bulgarian or a Pole.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 3 February 2021 08: 22
              0
              Quote: AUL
              The question was why Remek was the first, and not a Bulgarian or a Pole.

              Why then not a Hungarian?
              1. AUL
                AUL 3 February 2021 08: 23
                +4
                The Prague spring was fresh in my mind. By that time, the Hungarians had already somehow forgotten.
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 3 February 2021 08: 27
                  +1
                  Quote: AUL
                  The Prague spring was fresh in my mind. By that time, the Hungarians had already somehow forgotten.

                  Strange ... Now they remember, as if it was yesterday, and they poke us at every convenient and inconvenient occasion. And then "forgotten"? The "Young Europeans" have a short memory, however ... Only 12 years ... And some snatches
                  Here - I remember, here - I don't remember ...
                2. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 3 February 2021 13: 54
                  -1
                  Quote: AUL
                  By that time, the Hungarians had already somehow been forgotten.

                  Yes, no one really knew about those events
  6. Odysseus
    Odysseus 3 February 2021 06: 20
    +8
    She does not participate in it. The race (figuratively speaking) is between the United States and China. And in general, this can only be welcomed, since this race will benefit all of humanity.
    The Europeans also have interesting projects, but they find it difficult to compete with the two superpowers.
  7. U-58
    U-58 3 February 2021 06: 42
    +11
    And what about the Czechs!
    6-7 years ago there was a program on TV "Russia" where a number of our experts predicted that by 2025 Russia would slide to 5-6 place in the space sector, losing to China and Japan and France and almost Brazil.
    Unfortunately, their prediction is coming true.
    We literally have nothing to output. All commerce was tidied up by Musk, "putting shoes" on us and the French and his American colleagues.
    Launches "for themselves" were reduced (can be considered an accomplished fact) with the advent of American manned spacecraft.
    OneWeb is almost the last breath of air. But this is not for long.
    There remain questions of defense and science, which are also defense.
    Extraction of helium-3 for the Month is an idea, so far, whirring, cut into pieces a golden asteroid, and completely nonsense.
    The trouble is that space programs and ideas are not at the center of state policy, no matter what is declared at the top.
    The country is preoccupied with two problems: the enrichment of the haves and the survival of everyone else.
    So, nothing good can be expected in this area without a change in priorities and tasks.
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 3 February 2021 08: 16
      -4
      Quote: U-58
      cut into pieces a golden asteroid

      So this is how America decided to pay off debts and pay for "maintaining democracy" around the world ...
      Asteroid of iron, nickel and gold, worth 10 thousand quadrillion dollars, NASA will visit in 2026

      Will they be dragged in tow? To Psyche, for a minute, from the Earth three times farther than to the Sun. For the "gloomy American genius" - nonsense ...
      1. U-58
        U-58 3 February 2021 09: 20
        +2
        Ha, speak the truth.
        And if we estimate that with the (hypothetical) development of this extraterrestrial vein, gold will depreciate due to its huge amount (no matter how expensive its production would become), then it follows that the game is not worth a penny.))
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 3 February 2021 10: 32
          +1
          Quote: U-58
          And if we estimate that with the (hypothetical) development of this extraterrestrial vein, gold will depreciate due to its huge amount

          There was one such "cleverly done". In the novel by A. Tolstoy
          [...]
          “But my friend, Garin is going mad,” she said to Jansen. “He devalues ​​gold… he wants to be a dictator of the poor.
          Jansen glanced sideways at the splendor of the newly finished bedroom. He answered, holding his cap on his knees:
          “Garin told me on a date not to worry you, Madame Lamol. He never deviates from the planned program. Having knocked down the gold, he won the battle. The Senate will declare him dictator next week. Then he will raise the price of gold.
          - How? I do not understand.
          - Will issue a law banning the import and sale of gold. In a month it will rise to the previous price. Not much sold. There was more noise.
          - And the mine?
          - The mine will be destroyed.
          Madame Lamol frowned. I lit a cigarette:
          - I don’t understand.
          - It is necessary that the amount of gold was limited, otherwise it will lose the smell of human sweat. Of course, before destroying the mine, a reserve will be extracted in such a way that over fifty percent of the world's gold is provided for Garin. Thus, if parity falls, then by a few cents per dollar.

          If we hypothetically assume that the United States will screw this asteroid into Earth's orbit, for example, and will pinch off "pieces" from it, then, I think, this nation of thieves and stock-exchange swindlers will find a way not to devalue gold. After all, the whole world has been buying for a dozen years with its NOTHING, except for the "honest American word" and a kind glance with unsecured green cut paper.
    2. slipped
      slipped 3 February 2021 16: 50
      -1
      Quote: U-58
      And what about the Czechs!
      6-7 years ago there was a program on TV "Russia" where a number of our experts predicted that by 2025 Russia would slide to 5-6 place in the space sector, losing to China and Japan and France and almost Brazil.


      Well, yes, if they showed it on TV, then you need to believe. laughing

      Quote: U-58
      Unfortunately, their prediction is coming true.


      Not. And even there are no prerequisites.

      Quote: U-58
      We literally have nothing to output. All commerce was tidied up by Musk, "putting shoes" on us and the French and his American colleagues.


      This is utter nonsense. Now at Baikonur, a commercial South Korean satellite is being prepared, which flies with a bunch of other foreign spacecraft:



      Quote: U-58
      Launches "for themselves" were reduced (can be considered an accomplished fact) with the advent of American manned spacecraft.


      Under the ISS program, Russia is supposed to deliver two spacecraft to the space station per year. Previously, there were four, because they also carried the American part of the crew. This year - three manned spacecraft are planned, as commercial launches of tourists begin.

      Quote: U-58
      OneWeb is almost the last breath of air. But this is not for long.


      We are going to die. lol By the way, ILS has signed new contracts. Announcement coming soon.

      Quote: U-58
      There remain questions of defense and science, which are also defense.


      Scientific defense? so this is for you in "Era". laughing

      Quote: U-58
      Extraction of helium-3 for the Month is an idea, so far, whirring, cut into pieces a golden asteroid, and completely nonsense.


      Vooot. I agree with that. laughing
      1. The eye of the crying
        The eye of the crying 3 February 2021 17: 14
        -1
        Quote: slipped
        Right now, a commercial South Korean satellite is being prepared at Baikonur, which flies with a bunch of other foreign spacecraft:


        So now and not 2025.
        1. slipped
          slipped 3 February 2021 17: 15
          -1
          Quote: Eye of the Crying
          So now and not 2025.


          What will happen there in 2025? End of the world? laughing Are you one of these ... seers?
          1. The eye of the crying
            The eye of the crying 3 February 2021 17: 16
            -1
            Quote: slipped
            What will happen there in 2025?


            Don't you remember what you answered? Here is:

            Quote: U-58
            6-7 years ago there was a program on TV "Russia" where a number of our experts predicted that by 2025 Russia would slide to 5-6 place in the space sector, losing to China and Japan and France and almost Brazil.
            1. slipped
              slipped 3 February 2021 17: 18
              0
              Quote: Eye of the Crying
              Don't you remember what you answered? Here is:


              So they lied to you, like this Czech. There are no prerequisites. I don't know what kind of specialists there were, but the Czech definitely worked for the silver coins.
              1. The eye of the crying
                The eye of the crying 3 February 2021 17: 19
                -2
                Whether they lied or not, it will become clear in 2025. And there are prerequisites.
                1. slipped
                  slipped 3 February 2021 17: 22
                  0
                  Quote: Eye of the Crying
                  And there are prerequisites.


                  What kind? Make the deal. It even became interesting to me. Cut the "truth-womb" straight from the hip. I will survive.
                  1. The eye of the crying
                    The eye of the crying 3 February 2021 17: 33
                    -1
                    Quote: slipped
                    And there are prerequisites.


                    What?


                    A bunch of projects in the US - from Starship to Terran. Chinese program.
                    1. slipped
                      slipped 3 February 2021 17: 46
                      +2
                      Quote: Eye of the Crying
                      A bunch of projects in the US - from Starship to Terran. Chinese program.


                      Oh, you mean the means of launch. Well, we also have our new projects being implemented. And successfully. We continue flight tests of the Angara missile family, create a new Soyuz-5 medium launch vehicle - in a couple of years it will be completed, and create a new cruise reusable ultralight launch vehicle. Several private Russian companies have begun building their ultralight rockets to launch cubesats. The private company "Kosmokurs" is developing a rocket complex for space tourism - they recently underwent watering tests of the nozzle head of a liquid-propellant engine.



                      The work is in progress. Apparently the Czech is not in the teeth about this.
  8. Pavel73
    Pavel73 3 February 2021 06: 49
    0
    Russia lost the space race when it could not take advantage of the big mistake of the Americans (Shuttle) and did not create either a new normal launch vehicle to replace the Proton, or a new normal reusable spacecraft to replace the Union. Although there was a time wagon.

    Now the Americans have finished working on their mistakes (Falcon and Dragon), they are earning money, and we are at a broken trough and Hangara. Which, at best, is a good graduation project of post-Soviet rocketry. But not a normal rocket.
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 3 February 2021 06: 52
      +4
      Quote: Pavel73
      Russia lost the space race when it was never able to take advantage of a major mistake by the Americans (Shuttle) and did not create either a new normal launch vehicle to replace the Proton, or a new normal reusable spacecraft to replace the Union.

      Well, in the USSR "Energia" and "Buran" were ... but then bam - and Russia.
      1. Pavel73
        Pavel73 3 February 2021 06: 58
        +2
        Energiya-Buran is the greatest achievement of Soviet engineering. And at the same time the greatest defeat of the mind of the Soviet leaders. Both those who started this work and those who later ruined it. Pests are both. The first - because they wanted to show that "we can do that too!" Instead of making a normal demanded carrier and a normal reusable ship. And the latter stupidly pissed away absolutely everything good and useful that was gained during this project. Moreover, the second was a direct consequence of the first.
        1. Odysseus
          Odysseus 3 February 2021 07: 00
          +4
          Quote: Pavel73
          And at the same time the greatest defeat of the mind of the Soviet leaders. Both those who started this work and those who later ruined it.

          It was a matter of politics, not technology. Don't portray Gorbachev as a fool. A traitor, yes, but not a fool.
          1. Pavel73
            Pavel73 3 February 2021 08: 08
            +1
            No, he is just a fool. More precisely, an incompetent person, out of place. As a result of this incompetence, I made a bunch of mistakes that are just as erroneously interpreted as treason. No, he is not a traitor. That is, not one who understood everything perfectly, and deliberately went over to the side of the enemy.
            1. A_Lex
              A_Lex 3 February 2021 21: 07
              0
              Fools do not climb the career ladder to such posts. Traitors are easy.
        2. mat-vey
          mat-vey 3 February 2021 07: 02
          +4
          Quote: Pavel73
          And at the same time the greatest defeat of the mind of the Soviet leaders.

          And what is the defeat?
          Quote: Pavel73
          Both those who started this work and those who later ruined it.

          I would hardly call those who killed them Soviet ... if only by country of birth ...
          1. Pavel73
            Pavel73 3 February 2021 08: 19
            +3
            The defeat is that there was no need to start this work at all. The Americans with the Shuttle made a cruel mistake, and we repeated this mistake. But if they did, then it was impossible to let this work perish. All the developments on it had to be scrupulously analyzed, and all useful things had to be preserved. For example, hydrogen engines. Or avionics and other Buran systems. Materials, thermal protection, a lot of things have been done. Even a simple halving of Buran without changing its aerodynamics would give us a good reusable spacecraft weighing about 20 tons, which could be launched into orbit with a new rocket, a replacement for the Proton. Or even by the Proton itself (at first).
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey 3 February 2021 08: 47
              +2
              Quote: Pavel73
              The Americans with the Shuttle were cruelly mistaken

              Well, the "Buran" from the "Shuttle" only had aerodynamics .. Although if you actively go into near space, who knows, you need a truck. And "Energia" then what's wrong?
        3. mark1
          mark1 3 February 2021 09: 48
          +2
          Quote: Pavel73
          Energiya-Buran is the greatest achievement of Soviet engineering.

          Absolute truth
          Quote: Pavel73
          And at the same time the greatest defeat of the mind of the Soviet leaders

          At that time, the Soviet leaders were all right with reason. An advanced space (in the future, reusable) transport system was created - "Zenit" - "Energia" from 13,7 to 105 tons (200 in the future) with Buran and in the future with Zorya. It is still not outdated (subject to completion)
          But further, in connection with the well-known events, the sanity of the Russian leadership was really amazed. It is easy to break, and now even Zenit (aka Soyuz-5) is worth incredible work to recreate, and the hydrogen theme is ruined for a long time.
    2. U-58
      U-58 3 February 2021 09: 32
      +1
      Was it necessary to kill Proton at the current stage?
      For her, he could have worked at full strength for another 15-25 years.
      I am not speaking unfounded, for I have participated all my life.
      The technology has been honed to perfection.
      Stories about ecology are for grandmothers on the bench.
      Almost all of the heptyl is burned out.
      The remains are drained at an altitude of 40-45 km and decompose rapidly.
      The price of a finished, reliable missile tested hundreds of times is minimal - 6-7 times less than the current Angara.
      There are [alas, everything fits on the table] medium and light versions, which are even cheaper.
      So Rogozin banned him with only one purpose - to speed up the Angara, with which he rushes like [d. at. R. and. k] with candy wrappers.
      Sad and, as it turned out, premature and short-sighted.
      And with the Kazakhs on Baykolrom it was possible to agree
      1. slipped
        slipped 3 February 2021 16: 59
        +1
        Quote: U-58
        Was it necessary to kill Proton at the current stage?


        Proton has about 10 more launches.

        Quote: U-58
        For her, he could have worked at full strength for another 15-25 years.


        Could not.

        Quote: U-58
        Almost all of the heptyl is burned out.


        The late Popovkin was probably told about this too.

        Quote: U-58
        The price of a finished, reliable missile tested hundreds of times is minimal - 6-7 times less than the current Angara.


        The hangara is still twice as expensive to manufacture, since the new rocket.

        Quote: U-58
        So Rogozin banned him with only one purpose - to speed up the Angara, with which he rushes like [d. at. R. and. k] with candy wrappers.
        Sad and, as it turned out, premature and short-sighted.


        Found out by whom? By you personally? laughing

        Quote: U-58
        And with the Kazakhs on Baykolrom it was possible to agree


        Your whole speech could be reduced to this. You can't. And so they agreed only for 20 years.
      2. A_Lex
        A_Lex 3 February 2021 21: 29
        +1
        The price of a finished, reliable missile tested hundreds of times is minimal - 6-7 times less than the current Angara.


        It is high time to understand that the Russian Federation as a project faces the goal of benefit for the few, which in turn can be achieved only through inefficiency for many. In the USSR, everything was exactly the opposite. That system effectively solved everyone's problems in order to relieve a person from routine. The current one does nothing but create problems that can be overcome only by a sharp increase in spending, for which the overwhelming majority have no funds.
  9. Zug
    Zug 3 February 2021 07: 15
    +2
    Does not lose, but LOSED. Business and space-scientific space are not compatible.
  10. Prisoner
    Prisoner 3 February 2021 07: 31
    +2
    "They brightly present ..." (c) In this we have reached high heights (sorry miles, for the tautology), and in all areas. smile Even China will not overtake us in this.
  11. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 3 February 2021 07: 42
    -4
    Space is the only thing the USSR has succeeded in. A subject of pride. Of course, mastering space is necessary and important. But we must not forget about the common people. But it turned out, on the contrary, in the villages and villages they lived in poverty and built space stations and rockets.
    1. FRoman1984
      FRoman1984 3 February 2021 07: 47
      +5
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Space is the only thing the USSR has succeeded in. A subject of pride. Of course, mastering space is necessary and important. But we must not forget about the common people. But it turned out, on the contrary, in the villages and villages they lived in poverty and built space stations and rockets.

      Now we also continue to live in poverty, but already without stations and missiles.
  12. rocket757
    rocket757 3 February 2021 07: 54
    0
    Czech observer: Russia is losing the space race

    Only business must be dealt with specifically, according to plan, with proper diligence and skill ... but here, so far, it is very sour here. And I would like it to be normal.
  13. mag nit
    mag nit 3 February 2021 08: 06
    0
    What will the Moldovan space observer say?
    1. slipped
      slipped 3 February 2021 17: 03
      +1
      Quote: mag nit
      What will the Moldovan space observer say?


      And for those, it usually comes down to wine. He will groan that they are completely behind and do not drink their wine in orbit. laughing
  14. zwlad
    zwlad 3 February 2021 08: 43
    -4
    But it is interesting that our electronic warfare systems are capable of jamming the signal from Starlink satellites. The Starlink project is very much like Radio Liberty.
  15. APASUS
    APASUS 3 February 2021 09: 08
    -2
    Karel Zvonik, Russia has lost its significant advantage in space. The Czech author calls it “the end of Russian glory in space”. Zvonik notes that in recent years, Russian officials "allow themselves an inexhaustible stream of statements about numerous space programs and projects."

    In the Czech media:

    But practically nothing is brought to the end, to its logical conclusion.

    I will subscribe to every word. It is amazing that everyone sees this, but does not take steps ...........
    Something in our system, godfathers stopped working altogether
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 3 February 2021 10: 50
      -2
      Quote: APASUS
      Something in our system

      But it will not change, because all the dissatisfied can be declared agents of the West and continue not to work. There is no incentive to work for her.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 3 February 2021 11: 26
        -1
        Quote: military_cat
        There is no incentive to work for her.

        To our great regret, being just a patriot now doesn’t work, but our people are sitting on the money.
    2. slipped
      slipped 3 February 2021 17: 05
      0
      Quote: APASUS
      I will subscribe to every word.


      Who are you and what is your signature worth? Maybe she's not worth a damn? Maybe you are a bum? laughing Well then, sign.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 3 February 2021 17: 07
        -1
        Quote: slipped
        Quote: APASUS
        I will subscribe to every word.


        Who are you and what is your signature worth? Maybe she's not worth a damn? Maybe you are a bum? laughing Well then, sign.

        Well, the patriots flooded .....................
        1. slipped
          slipped 3 February 2021 17: 08
          0
          Quote: APASUS
          Well, the patriots flooded .....................


          Well, I see nothing to answer. Only with slogans. laughing Subscribed already?
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 3 February 2021 17: 09
            0
            Quote: slipped
            Well, I see nothing to answer. Only with slogans. Subscribed already?

            I would answer you rudeness, but I'm afraid they'll ban me
            1. slipped
              slipped 3 February 2021 17: 11
              0
              Quote: APASUS
              Quote: slipped
              Well, I see nothing to answer. Only with slogans. Subscribed already?

              I would answer you rudeness, but I'm afraid they'll ban me


              So you thoroughly, slowly .... no one swears with you. laughing At least somehow comment on the facts, vyser Czech? Or do you have no facts? And the slogans are the same, right?
              1. APASUS
                APASUS 4 February 2021 08: 23
                -2
                Quote: slipped

                So you thoroughly, without haste .... no one swears with you. At least somehow comment on the facts, vyser Czech? Or do you have no facts?

                What other facts do you need?

                The closest competitor was 2 times ahead in launches, and the leader was almost 3 times ahead. Yes, and with whom we compete with China
                1. slipped
                  slipped 4 February 2021 10: 59
                  +1
                  Quote: APASUS
                  What other facts do you need?
                  The closest competitor was 2 times ahead in launches, and the leader was almost 3 times ahead. Yes, and with whom we compete with China


                  And now our facts:

                  First, we are not competing with anyone in launches.
                  Secondly, the main groupings in Russia are now filled with spacecraft to capacity, and the civilian constellation of satellites is about 100 spacecraft of various classes. More frequent launches in Russia will begin at the beginning of the deployment of the groupings of the Sphere project. At the moment, new spacecraft are being created for this.
                  Third - a third of Russian launches in 2020 was postponed due to the non-delivery of satellites by foreign customers due to the pandemic and their own circumstances to 2021 - 2022.

                  Only five domestic vehicles were postponed to the 2021st year by launching due to unavailability or passing tests. Two of the transferred spacecraft are flying this month. Subsequent - in the second and third quarters.

                  So the number of launches in 2020 is not an indicator. More facts?
                  1. APASUS
                    APASUS 4 February 2021 11: 23
                    -1
                    Quote: slipped
                    First, we are not competing with anyone in launches.

                    It sucks that you are not competing. Because these are taxes, workload of enterprises, wages for workers, expansion of the scientific base and investments!
                    Quote: slipped
                    Secondly, the main groupings in Russia are now filled with spacecraft to capacity, and the civilian constellation of satellites is about 100 spacecraft of various classes.

                    Better tell me about the successes of the space rocket complex (KKK)
                    "Angara", the "Vostochny" cosmodrome, GLONASS, the Russian lunar spacecraft "Eagle" (formerly "Federation").
                    Quote: slipped
                    Third - a third of Russian launches in 2020 was postponed due to the non-delivery of satellites by foreign customers due to the pandemic and their own circumstances to 2021 - 2022.

                    Interestingly, it turns out that the Americans and the Chinese are supplied with satellites and the pandemic did not interfere?
                    Quote: slipped
                    Only five domestic vehicles were postponed to the 2021st year by launching due to unavailability or passing tests. Two of the transferred spacecraft are flying this month.

                    Not 1 or 2, but as many as 5. As a percentage of launches last year, how much?
                    There is nothing to boast about!
                    Quote: slipped
                    So the number of launches is not an indicator. More facts?

                    Read the material by M.G. Chernyavsky (I hope you don’t need to write who it is?), On the facts.
                    http://russianspacesystems.ru/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/kosmicheskaya_dyaetelnost_v_Rossii.pdf
                    1. slipped
                      slipped 4 February 2021 12: 59
                      +1
                      I will answer in order.

                      Quote: APASUS
                      It sucks that you are not competing. Because these are taxes, workload of enterprises, wages for workers, expansion of the scientific base and investments!


                      Adequate funding is required for any competition. The budget itself assumes a certain number of launches within a decade. As for off-budget, private launches, the pool of such services in Russia is only at the initial stage of formation - private companies have only recently started developing their own launch vehicles. The first fully commercial launch will be carried out in March this year, the launch operator is Glavkosmos.

                      Quote: APASUS
                      Better tell me about the successes of the space rocket complex (KKK)
                      "Angara"


                      The successful launch of the second carrier as part of flight design tests was carried out on December 14 last year.



                      A feature of the launch was that the carrier used a URM that was completely assembled at a new production site in the city of Omsk. The third launch of the carrier under the Angara program, scheduled for this year, involves testing the new Perseus upper stage. In the fourth launch, also this year, a light version of the Omsk-assembled carrier will be tested in the standard configuration with an AM injection unit.

                      Quote: APASUS
                      cosmodrome "Vostochny"


                      The successful construction of the so-called "second stage" of the cosmodrome - USK KRK "Amur", site A1 for the KRK "Angara" is under way. The completion of the construction of the A1 site is planned for the beginning of 2023.



                      Quote: APASUS
                      GLONASS


                      The GLONASS space constellation is fully deployed and transmits a navigation signal on a global scale. At the moment, the old satellites of the constellation are being replaced by new ones according to their actual state. This year, new generation K and K2 satellites are expected to be launched for this constellation.



                      The decision on the time of their launch is made by the RF Ministry of Defense.

                      Quote: APASUS
                      Russian lunar spacecraft "Eagle" (former "Federation").


                      As part of the creation of the NPP, a design model of the ship for static tests was assembled, which includes the model of the VA and the model of the SM. A series of tests will follow. The ship's production will be completed in 2023. The launch as part of flight design tests is planned at the end of 2023 from the A1 site of the Vostochny cosmodrome.

                      Quote: APASUS
                      Interestingly, it turns out that the Americans and the Chinese are supplied with satellites and the pandemic did not interfere?


                      Arianspace, the customer of 7 space launches in 2020 from Russia, did not supply satellites for them, postponing the delivery to the end of the year. In addition, they proposed to postpone the launch of the Exomars project to the next astronomical window - to 2022, since they have delays with their part of the project. The delivery of the South Korean satellite "CAS500-1" was also postponed to 2021 at the request of the customer, the satellite has now been delivered to Baikonur and works are being carried out with it to prepare it for launch:



                      Quote: APASUS
                      Not 1 or 2, but as many as 5. As a percentage of launches last year, how much?
                      There is nothing to boast about!


                      This is one third of the civilian spacecraft. The reasons for all spacecraft are different - this is a delay as a result of tests and additional checks. In any case, the spacecraft data will be launched into space in the near future.

                      Quote: APASUS
                      Read the material by M.G. Chernyavsky


                      This is very old material from eight years ago. Since then, there have been some changes.
                      1. APASUS
                        APASUS 4 February 2021 14: 00
                        -1
                        Quote: slipped
                        Adequate funding is required for any competition. The budget itself assumes a certain number of launches within a decade.

                        18.12 12:26 Russia East Sq. 1C Russia Soyuz-2.1b / Frigate 2020-100A 47258 Great Britain Oneweb-0102 OneWeb

                        Planned to launch 10 years ago?
                        Quote: slipped
                        The successful launch of the second carrier as part of flight design tests was carried out on December 14 last year.

                        Since 2014, the 3rd start is definitely a breakthrough!
                        Quote: slipped
                        The successful construction of the so-called "second stage" of the cosmodrome - USK KRK "Amur", site A1 for the KRK "Angara" is under way. The completion of the construction of the A1 site is planned for the beginning of 2023.

                        After such news, this is of course progress
                        In November 2018, the official representative of the Prosecutor General's Office of Russia, Alexander Kurennoy, said that over 140 criminal cases were initiated on the facts of violations during the construction of the cosmodrome, and the damage amounted to more than 10 billion rubles.

                        Quote: slipped
                        This is very old material from eight years ago. Since then, there have been some changes.

                        This material showed the shortcomings of the planning system and, as practice shows, the material turned out to be prophetic. The problems are only growing, we are already catching up with China
                      2. slipped
                        slipped 4 February 2021 14: 16
                        +1
                        Quote: APASUS
                        18.12 12:26 Russia East Sq. 1C Russia Soyuz-2.1b / Frigate 2020-100A 47258 Great Britain Oneweb-0102 OneWeb

                        Planned to launch 10 years ago?


                        Your question is unclear. The satellites are assembled in the USA in Florida at the plant, then sent by the Arianspace company to the cosmodromes. In 2020, we only had three launches out of the planned 9 due to the non-delivery of these satellites to our cosmodromes. Moreover, they delayed the delivery of the next batch already this year for another month - they will deliver it only at the end of this month, perhaps this is due to the fact that their plant was idle for more than six months.

                        Quote: APASUS
                        Since 2014, the 3rd start is definitely a breakthrough!


                        Sure. It is very difficult and difficult to organize a new production for a new rocket. It is required to carry out the whole complex of tests again. As soon as it was completed - the rocket flew, then everything is much easier and faster. New production only speeds up production.

                        Quote: APASUS
                        After such news, this is of course progress
                        In November 2018, the official representative of the Prosecutor General's Office of Russia, Alexander Kurennoy, said that over 140 criminal cases were initiated on the facts of violations during the construction of the cosmodrome, and the damage amounted to more than 10 billion rubles.


                        The contractors who committed violations during the construction of the "first stage" of the cosmodrome have already been disbanded, the directors have sat down for a long time, the money is returned, and the private owner of one of the companies (TMK) fled the country and has now received political asylum in the Czech Republic. laughing

                        In any case, the completion of the "first stage" by other builders has no effect on launches from the C1 site of the cosmodrome. There will be several launches from there this year.

                        Quote: APASUS
                        Problems are only growing, we are already catching up with China


                        We have no competition with China. We have a federal space program for 2016-2025. which is being executed. You can get acquainted with the program itself on the official website of Roscosmos.
  • Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 3 February 2021 09: 36
    +4
    No matter how we say or write, the level of development of space programs of the USSR and RUSSIA is the same as an ELEPHANT and a pug. There is no well-thought-out STATE policy, there is no planning, with the arrival of new bosses, new priorities begin about which they tell like fairy tales, behind which, apart from pain, nothing stands. At the head should be a SPECIALIST in space, not a journalist, sociologist or philologist, let alone a lawyer. As long as there is such an attitude, the more OUR space will rot and shit.
  • iouris
    iouris 3 February 2021 12: 31
    -3
    Whoever loses in the European court also loses in space.
  • Sirocco
    Sirocco 3 February 2021 14: 52
    -2
    I read the comments, and as if I got into the trash, some freak show. they took Nyrobsky down, why? everything on the case said the person that we know at least about the policy of the Russian Federation at least about space? Yes, nothing that we will be fed by the media then we eat, and that under the counter no one knows from those sitting here. the movie hero will say for me further
    1. slipped
      slipped 3 February 2021 17: 07
      +1
      Quote: Sirocco
      what do we know even about the policy of the Russian Federation even about space?


      And then they don't know anything, here they are like monkeys - they saw the Czech vyser and are happy to blink on the subject.
  • amat22
    amat22 3 February 2021 16: 58
    0
    Excuse me, where do we win?
  • Egor53
    Egor53 3 February 2021 17: 05
    +3
    The Czech Republic is the same authoritative country in space as Mongolia in electronics and vaccine development.
    It should not be forgotten that Russia is still producing the best rocket engines of the RD series. And these engines are still purchased by the USA.
    In addition, ALL long-range spacecraft generate electricity using exclusively Russian-made isotopes.
    Well, neither the United States nor China can produce the same plutonium 238. And with the production of other isotopes with Russia, no one in the world is even close.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 4 February 2021 13: 07
    0
    But the Czechs win, well, whoever wrote about our space, but not these eccentrics with the letter M.
  • wow
    wow 4 February 2021 14: 41
    0
    Is it within the competence of the "Czech observer" to talk about the space "race" at all !?
  • 1536
    1536 4 February 2021 14: 53
    0
    There is nowhere to rush today, because it is senseless from the point of view of scientific and technological progress to use the principles in the construction of missiles developed 60-70 years ago in new technology. And yet there is nothing new. Unless reusable fuel tanks or first stage engines will come in handy in the future. The extraction of minerals on the Moon, of course, is a tempting undertaking, but for those who print money for themselves, others will go bankrupt in any case, relying on the same old technologies, and most importantly, the principles of launching a spacecraft into orbit.
    Of course, how can this whole "race" dream mobilize young people, direct them into the right direction of labor activity, etc., but again, will young people shake up old achievements, and even according to the strict industry standards? On the contrary, it will strive to invent something new. But this does not apply to "racing".
  • Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 4 February 2021 19: 06
    0
    Czech observer: Russia is losing the space race

    As they say, whose cow would bellow. Let them look in the mirror first.