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"Bill Gates is the father of the pandemic." And if it's not a fake?

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Many people still, not without reason, consider the pandemic and the "terrible" threat of Covid-19, and most importantly, unprecedented measures to combat them, something like a global fake. Although the world mass media refute this with all their might.

But that's why they are world-wide. These media - they are obliged to play the music that is ordered to them. However, the unprecedented online hype surrounding Bill Gates as the prime suspect for the spread of Covid-19, with all the strains that followed, is a very different case.

And it’s already useless to repeat in the press, on social networks and Internet channels that the attack on Bill Gates is also a fake. This is not the first time before our eyes that the famous expression of Marx is being realized:

"An idea that has taken possession of the masses becomes a material force!"

The first on the founder of "Microsoft" (Microsoft) Bill Gates snapped supporters of the conspiracy theory. The Chinese trail seemed boring to conspiracy theorists, and they decided to choose Gates as a new victim of their theories.

"It has a lot to do with the creation of the Covid-19 coronavirus."

"He wanted to benefit from the pandemic, and he is already getting it."

This is from the Washington Post and from the American version of the worldwide Computerworld that Gates once sponsored. Moreover, he sponsored so generously that the publication fell under the skating rink of the antimonopoly services in several countries at once.

Well, IT giants, with their billions of dollars in profits from remoteness and everything connected with it, in the list of those who have only benefited from the pandemic, are by no means after pharmacists and vaccine developers. They are clearly ahead.

When the entire world economy, albeit with China outside the brackets, is declining, sales of equipment, computer games and software products have grown not by percentages, but several times. And Microsoft, which has long been hooked on more than half the world, is definitely out of competition today.

Look for who benefits


But the direct beneficiary is not always the one who starts the flywheel. Yes, Bill Gates was immediately reminded of 2015, when at a TED conference, he said that the greatest threat to humanity is not nuclear war, but an infectious virus that can kill millions of people.

"He planned to use the pandemic to seize control of the global health system."

This is from the New York Times.

Conspiracy theorists seemed to laugh in vain when, at the start of the pandemic, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation allocated an astronomical amount for research aimed at preventing the spread of Covid-19. As much as $ 100 million.

Then there was more. A lot more. But now you can't shut up anyone with this. Microsoft spends hundreds, thousands of times more on military software development. But the profits are also cosmic.

"Bill Gates is the father of the pandemic." And if it's not a fake?

Meanwhile, the combination with the unification of two seemingly little related industries - digital technologies and pharmaceuticals - has already been successfully implemented. And there is no need at all to sit in high positions in the largest corporation in the world.

But it only seems to Gates that it is enough to replicate lengthy interviews in the big media in response to the network hype. With such pathetic maxims:

“This pandemic is terrible, but the next pandemic could be ten times worse.

That is, a global answer is needed.

There was international collaboration between scientists, companies, international organizations and governments in the development of the vaccine. No country could achieve this alone.

Hopefully this will be a lesson in tackling global challenges such as climate change. "

But the process, as they say, has already begun. And even our publication is just one more of its reflections. Among the hundreds of thousands and even millions. Journalists, like detectives, are obliged to look for who benefits.

Fakes are lies, but in them ...


It is understandable why the world swallows fakes about Gates with such pleasure. Millions of views and likes, tens of thousands of posts and reposts about someone who was recently talked about as a monopolist from a completely different sphere -

"What is good for Boeing is good for America."

But Boeing was blown away.

Bill Gates' Microsoft may well be blown away. Although just a few months before the pandemic, Microsoft, with a capitalization of $ 905 billion, became the world's most expensive business. Gates' brainchild took first place in the Global Top 100 ranking.

In March 2020, as the pandemic was only gaining momentum, the media spread around news about the departure of Bill Gates from the board of directors of Microsoft and (oh, horror!) from the capital of the corporation.

At the same time, the billionaire dumped a close friend - also a billionaire from the top ten Warren Buffet with his lucrative investment business. And he began to spread everywhere that he was dedicated to saving mankind from epidemics and pandemics.

A kind of philanthropist who has invested more than $ 50 billion in the development of global health care and education, as well as in solving the problem of climate change over two decades.

This is twenty years. And this is with Microsoft's current capitalization of almost a trillion dollars. Now the hero of the occasion in the press and social networks has invested in vaccines, and not only ... But how could it be otherwise?

Did he let it out himself?


So the ranks of expert critics who will expose the pharmaceutical giants will continue to grow. To which even now no one wants to explain anything. And why, in general, did it take to develop and produce batches of hundreds of millions of very dubious vaccines?


Above I wrote that conspiracy theorists, and after them the network community, chose Bill Gates to play the role of the culprit in the pandemic. But why did they choose? If he set himself up?

The founder of unsinkable Microsoft spilled over everything even not in 2015, but even earlier - in his scandalous speech

"Refreshing to zero!"

It happened at a closed conference, again - TED, ten years ago in Long Beach, California.

Today it is believed that Bill Gates simply made a reservation there, just according to Freud, about the reduction of the world's population by 10-15 percent, meaning only a decrease in the growth rate. But it certainly was about the fact that this would happen,

"If we really do a big job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we will reduce it by perhaps 10-15 percent."

Well, in 2010, the media and paid bloggers managed to "smear" Gates.

And now they can drown.
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  1. nsm1
    nsm1 3 February 2021 11: 10
    +5
    He left m $ a long time ago
    After Ballmer was, also kicked out, now Nadela, Indian
    But there are no intelligible arguments in the article from the word at all
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 3 February 2021 11: 16
      +5
      Quote: nsm1

      But there are no intelligible arguments in the article from the word at all

      What for??? This is so many beloved "conspiracy theory"!
      Yes, the material makes you expect the best, the level of a child's horror story.
      1. Crowe
        Crowe 3 February 2021 11: 31
        +22
        I spoke with doctors - the most common cause of death of people is coronary heart disease, the coronavirus pandemic is artificially inflated, pharmaceutical giants (especially Pfizer) have gotten billions of American rubles on this wave of fear of generality. Their incomes exceed the turnover of drugs and weapons.
        1. nsm1
          nsm1 3 February 2021 11: 36
          +3
          I know for sure, from a friend, about a case when doctors offered money for agreeing to indicate the cause of death of the coronavirus.
          But they got it in the face.
        2. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 3 February 2021 13: 08
          +3
          One strange phenomenon can be traced in your posts. You read this:
          Quote: Crowe
          Spoke to doctors - the most common cause of death in people is coronary heart disease...

          And this:

          And you begin to understand that someone is fooling us according to the fullest program.
          Quote: Crowe
          the coronavirus pandemic is artificially inflated

          Your doctors (from the word lie?) Did not say that the coronavirus really exists? Or are they the same doctors as you are an Indian? The coronavirus pandemic exists and takes lives only because this variant of the flu gives complications to the brain. Most deaths begin with a fever and subsequent dementia. Manifestations of complications in the form of micro-strokes and lung damage. If you can breathe on your own with a cold and common flu, then when you become infected with COVID-19, lung function is likely only with the help of mechanical ventilation.
          This is a strange disease: people are dying from it (for some reason), and doctors (your friends) deny this pandemic.
          Quote: Crowe
          pharma giants (especially Pfizer) billions American rubles got fucked on this wave of universal fear.

          There: over the hill, the pharmaceutical giants probably got something on the wave of general fear. In Russia, massive profits were obtained from (???) speculations when prices were inflated on medical masks, disinfectants and oxygen canisters for inhalation ... (But your doctors did not know this?) Moreover, all this had an artificially inflated demand due prohibitive measures (because at the earliest stage of the pandemic there was simply not enough of all this).
          Quote: Crowe
          Their income exceeds the turnover of drugs and weapons.

          Let their income exceed the income from drug and weapon trafficking (really - in this particular world incident). Likewise, you can create demand for fresh water and clean air (if you try). But I was most surprised by your march on the topics of the VO website, where for any of your "demonstrative" performances you get the maximum mark with extremely dubious value of the statement. Isn't it strange? Are you really a genius in information work, or do you somehow have some support from a group of interested comrades? Are the marshals over?
          1. ee2100
            ee2100 3 February 2021 15: 07
            +6
            "The coronavirus pandemic exists and takes lives only because this variant of the flu gives complications to brain activity. Most of the dead begin with a fever and dementia that follows. Manifestations of complications in the form of micro-strokes and lung damage. If you can breathe with a cold and common flu. on their own, then when infected with COVID-19, lung function is likely only with the help of mechanical ventilation. " (with)
            You somehow crumpled everything in one paragraph and flies and cutlets. In order to write about a disease, you must at least familiarize yourself with its etiology and pathogenesis.
            At least here.
            https://bestpractice.bmj.com/topics/ru-ru/3000201/aetiology
            No one denies this disease, but remember how in February 2020 it was immediately dubbed a "pandemic", and then it was possible to speak, at best, of an epidemic.
            In the spring, the WHO recognized that the quarantine measures taken against covid 19 were excessive, but the states did not soften them, but rather tightened them.
            Below is a link to the WHO recommendations on how to define death from Covid. Read to the end to find out that if a person fell ill with SARS and received pneumonia due to complications and then died from previously existing chronic diseases, and all PCR tests were negative, then this death is still considered from Covid.
            https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.who.int/classifications/icd/Guidelines_Cause_of_Death_COVID-19-20200420-RU.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjItd_Szc3uAhUrpIsKHVSKBU0QFjAAegQIAxAC&usg=AOvVaw0T6JT8zoSOBpvBGR4rZp-Z
            Very interesting diagrams and graphs should be built by WHO.
            https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
            Who does not understand will look and be horrified.
            Danish scientists have conducted a study on the effect of the mask on the spread of the Covid virus. Conclusion - it does not affect how. The results of their research refused to print all well-known medical journals, incl. and Lancet.
            In the USSR, up to 10 million people fell ill with seasonal flu, and none of them panicked.
            There is evidence that the laboratory in Wuhan is a Gates structure.
            There is something to think about.
            1. lucul
              lucul 3 February 2021 16: 18
              +7
              Below is a link to the WHO recommendations on how to define death from Covid. Read to the end to find out that if a person fell ill with SARS and received pneumonia due to complications and then died from previously existing chronic diseases, and all PCR tests were negative, then this death is still considered from Covid.

              Well, let's see - exactly a year has passed since the start of the pandemic, which means that you can compare the mortality rate in 2019 and 2020. And if Covid-19 is as terrible as it is painted, then logically, the number of deaths of the population should have increased by at least 10%. But this is not, there is no surge in deaths from Covid-19, and in the whole world.
              1. Ross xnumx
                Ross xnumx 3 February 2021 16: 38
                -6
                Quote: lucul
                And if Covid-19 is as terrible as it is painted, then logically, the number of deaths of the population should have increased by at least 10%. But this is not, there is no surge in deaths from Covid-19, and in the whole world.

                I take it at my word and resort to facts:
                The population of Russia for the last three years:

                Mortality:
                1. lucul
                  lucul 3 February 2021 16: 47
                  +6
                  I take it at my word and resort to facts:
                  The population of Russia for the last three years:

                  109 deaths in 2019 versus 113 deaths in 2020 (this is for every 10 population) do you consider this a pandemic?
                  1. Ross xnumx
                    Ross xnumx 3 February 2021 19: 02
                    -5
                    Quote: lucul
                    do you think this is a pandemic?

                    Open your eyes ...
                    Quote: ee2100
                    If you send

                    Here already one sent ... I too ...
                    Both of you are from the category of people who are told that men in Russia (in some regions) do not even live to be 65, and they vote for the pension reform ...
                    fool Well, no pandemic ... No ... In that bunker where ...
                    And masks are masks-shows.
                    1. ee2100
                      ee2100 3 February 2021 20: 01
                      0
                      You didn’t even bother to read the text carefully, but you talk about things in which you understand less than a "young orderly". As they write here - learn the mathematical part.
                      What your box is bursting is what you relay. You may already have signs of dementia, which is what you are so afraid of.
                      Health!
                2. BMP-2
                  BMP-2 3 February 2021 19: 44
                  +7
                  Yuri Vasilievich, you shouldn't catch it like that: 1) one might think that before that in Russia, over the past 30 years, the mortality rate has not increased; 2) Covid-19 mortality is the mortality rate among those infected with Covid-19, not the death rate per 10 living.
              2. ee2100
                ee2100 3 February 2021 16: 43
                -2
                For technical reasons, I cannot set a graph of the increase in mortality by country from all causes, where I compare 2019 and 2020.
                If you send "something" to my email: [email protected], I will throw off the schedule for you to post it here.
            2. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 3 February 2021 16: 30
              -2
              Quote: ee2100
              In order to write about a disease, you must at least familiarize yourself with its etiology and pathogenesis.
              At least here.
              https://bestpractice.bmj.com/topics/ru-ru/3000201/aetiology

              Young orderly! I buried two people who contracted COVID-19. The fact that the symptoms are piled up is to blame for my haste. Ask how famous people in Russia over 65 died. Go to any hospital outside the Moscow Ring Road and see how patients are treated and where they receive medical care, then insert me all these diagnoses and symptoms that I have heard enough from emergency doctors, clinics, city hospitals ...
              You are well done! About Wuhan screwed up great. It's a pity that I live in Kemerovo.
              1. ee2100
                ee2100 3 February 2021 17: 02
                +2
                "Young orderly! I buried two people infected with COVID-19. The fact that the symptoms are piled up is to blame for my haste. Ask how famous people in Russia over 65 died." (C)
                And how old were the two you buried? What chronic diseases did they have?
                Look at the graphs of mortality from Covid by age and everything will become clear.
                The British analyzed morbidity and mortality in the light of race at home. Whites are one third less sick and dying than blacks and Asians.
                My friend is now sick with covid, 64 years old. Already more than 2 weeks, quite seriously, and another 2 days has temperature and that's all (54 years).
                About Wuhan. If you drop your email, I will send you a video about the connection between the laboratory and Gates. Believe, not believe your right.
              2. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 3 February 2021 19: 11
                +7
                Quote: ROSS 42
                Ask how famous people in Russia over 65 died.

                over 65 people die more often. In general, I observe a whole technology of statistical perversion developed for counting covid patients. Let me explain: every year, flu and SARS flare up periodically, as a result of which mortality rates slightly increase. This is the truth of life. There are many people, diabetics, stroke patients, etc ... who get sick with any disease have a chance to die. For many, forced physical inactivity was a factor that brought death closer. An increase in alcohol consumption is also a factor, improper, unproven treatment according to WHO recommendations with the widespread use of hormonal agents is also a harmful factor. If you add these factors, then they will be the cause of increased mortality. With all unfavorable factors - if a person has antibodies or a virus is isolated, then it falls into the covid statistics. Imagine, a person with a complex diagnosis of any pathology, who has a covid, instead of being examined by a narrow specialist, gets into the stream. My distant relative, was admitted to the hospital with suspected ischemia, choked, found antibodies, treated, treated, died ... an autopsy revealed a tumor of the esophagus that squeezed the pulmonary artery, blood circulation through the lungs was impaired. so choked !!!! But he also got into the Covid statistics.
            3. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 3 February 2021 18: 44
              +6
              Quote: ee2100
              and all PCR tests were negative, then all the same, this death is considered from Covid.

              The funeral is still a mess, funeral agencies in clear conspiracy with the medical authorities are still demanding to be buried in closed coffins, although the WHO claims the impossibility of infection from corpses, and Rospotrebnadzor has already canceled the epidemiological rules of burial. Corruption is evident throughout the country. But the authorities are more interested in Navalny's parole .....
              1. evgen1221
                evgen1221 3 February 2021 21: 59
                0
                No, here with the coffins it is not corruption, but the banal profit of the undertakers on the general psychosis and the lack of adequate information from the authorities, who only fueled this psychosis, but already in their political goals, this is abroad, ours simply copy everything in printer mode without understanding (it's stupid if in the west it will become fashionable to throw children out of the window, ours will copy it to us without hesitation.)
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 4 February 2021 04: 57
                  0
                  Quote: evgen1221
                  No, it’s not corruption with the coffins, but the banal profit of the undertakers

                  But what about the fact that the morgue workers do not give the body away, in any other way than in a closed coffin and cellophane?
          2. bk316
            bk316 3 February 2021 15: 27
            -2
            on brain activity. Most deaths begin with a fever and subsequent dementia.

            Not this way
            1. Generally speaking, one does not die of dementia.
            2. The most common and dangerous concomitant disease to coronavirus is vasculitis.
            3. Vasculitis causes damage
            - small vessels of the lungs - as a result, oxygen starvation and death without mechanical ventilation
            - cerebral vessels - microstroke - death
            - arteries and blood vessels of the heart - myocarditis and ischemia - death without treatment
            -ven - thrombosis - death without treatment
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 3 February 2021 19: 22
              +6
              Quote: bk316
              2. The most common and dangerous concomitant disease to coronavirus is vasculitis.

              the most effective means of combating any viral disease is the use of specific globulins or hyperimmune sera. The blood plasma of a freshly ill person contains a huge number of antibodies. a few milliliters of such plasma will destroy the virus circulating in the blood in 12 hours. Serum can be taken from people who have been ill, can be obtained from refractory animals and finally using modern methods, such as the method of monoclonal antibodies.
              There is complete silence in the media .... Scientists? are also silent. By chance I read in Russian in the Zhenminzhibao newspaper that serum treatment is very widely used in China. Accidentally I stumble upon information that in Moscow for 100 ml. the blood of the patient is paid 5000 rubles. But that's all !!! silent. I call a pulmonologist I know and ask if he uses serum? answer: - I am not completely free in the choice of means, no.
              draw conclusions.
              1. BMP-2
                BMP-2 3 February 2021 19: 57
                +8
                Yes, the introduction of blood plasma from a patient who has been ill is a long-known method of treatment. True, apart from a couple of vague and unsubstantiated statements about its allegedly ineffectiveness in the coronavirus, nothing else appeared in the press and the media. And the very approach to the fight against coronavirus was initially, to put it mildly, strange: "1) we will not invent a cure for the virus, we will check the effectiveness of existing drugs; 2) we will not look for the difference between the immune system of those who do not get sick from the immune system of sick people, but we will create a serum that is the same for everyone; 3) we will not look at the dynamics of mortality (the number of deaths per 100 cases), we will constantly exaggerate the mortality (how many died in general). If all this is not a conspiracy theory, then there is only one explanation left: this complete professional incompetence of the Ethiopian Master of Medicine, who heads the WHO!
              2. bk316
                bk316 4 February 2021 14: 38
                -2
                There is complete silence in the media ...

                You just read the wrong media. Probably all about politics.
                In Moscow, we are collecting blood from those who have recovered in full swing.
                Here are the links.
                https://www.mos.ru/otvet-zdorovie/kak-stat-donorom-plazmy-s-antitelami-k-covid-19/
                https://mosgorzdrav.ru/plazma
            2. Klingon
              Klingon 3 February 2021 19: 47
              +1
              dementia in itself is not a fatal diagnosis, but the brain is increasingly beginning to resemble a sponge (especially in Alzheimer-type dementia), while in a person gradually, against the background of dementia, subcortical reflexes, for example, the swallowing reflex, also begin to be disturbed, this leads to the development of aspiration pneumonia ( due to ingestion of food masses in the respiratory tract) with subsequent death against the background of progressive pulmonary edema and associated hypoxia
              1. bk316
                bk316 4 February 2021 13: 57
                0
                leads to the development of aspiration pneumonia (due to the ingestion of food masses in the respiratory tract) with

                What are you talking about what food masses on mechanical ventilation are they all on artificial nutrition on glucose?
                And with dementia, they live for years with normal care.
              2. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 4 February 2021 20: 32
                +1
                Quote: Klingon
                dementia itself is not a fatal diagnosis

                dementia is not a diagnosis but a symptom.
                1. Klingon
                  Klingon 4 February 2021 23: 37
                  0
                  diagnosis and differentiate several types
                  Demenz F03
                  Präsenil: Demenz onA
                  Präsenil: Psychose onA
                  Primäre degenerative Demenz onA
                  Senil: Demenz: depressiver oder paranoider Typus
                  Senil: Demenz: onA
                  Senil: Psychose onA
                  and even the worst option
                  F00
                  Demenz by Alzheimer-type (G30 .- +)
        3. bk316
          bk316 3 February 2021 15: 35
          -6
          Spoke to doctors

          I spoke with doctors - now I know everything about coronavirus
          I spoke with engineers - now I know how to fly to Mars
          I spoke with the programmers - now I know what's wrong in Windows.
          I spoke to mathematicians - I can prove Fermat's theorem.
          I don't even want to comment on your nonsense ...
          Millions have already died due to the coronavirus, the US has already lost more people than in WWII, we have already lost MUCH more than in Afghanistan ..
          Want to lose more than cardiovascular? Well, it's hundreds of hundreds of thousands. Is it you, not Billy, who wants to reduce the world's population?
          1. BMP-2
            BMP-2 3 February 2021 20: 01
            +1
            And these are also just words. If you look at the numbers, then the death rate from coronavirus is on average 2% worldwide (give or take a few tenths). Attention to the question: how many thousand years will humanity need to follow the path of dinosaurs with such a mortality rate ???
            1. bk316
              bk316 4 February 2021 13: 54
              -2
              how many thousands of years it will take humanity to follow the path of dinosaurs with such a mortality rate

              Who said about dinosaurs? Considering that mostly old people die, this does not threaten at all. Well, Hitler did not threaten the sight at all. That it was not necessary to fight him?

              Well, yes, there is a small probability of a mutation with a sharp increase in mortality, but the flu also has it.

              BTW not mortality - lethality 2% Either learn the thesaurus or don't write, otherwise you become like "talking to doctors."
              1. BMP-2
                BMP-2 4 February 2021 15: 40
                +1
                Yes, about 2% mortality - I agree. Thesaurus - I'm adding a little. I wanted to say that the mortality rate is still an order of magnitude lower and there was no need to stir up such a panic. But Hitler is completely useless here: the world community did not sound the alarm about him for a very long time and did not declare him a threat to humanity and did everything possible to help. The same Coca-Cola company supplied its troops with its products throughout the war. In the case of the coronavirus, the situation was initially exactly the opposite: "a deadly virus that threatens humanity." In general, it was not about the fact that there is no need to fight, but about the fact that the measures of struggle are too strange. Masks - they still fought with the Spaniard. By the way, it is also ineffective: the number of deaths then was, according to various estimates, from 40 to 100 million. As if nothing had changed in virology and epidemiology in 100 years ...
                1. bk316
                  bk316 4 February 2021 15: 59
                  -5
                  that the control measures are too strange

                  So there are no others. Well this is a virus. There are exactly 2 ways of quarantine measures and vaccination. And oddly enough you are right nothing new in 100 years. Medicines were discovered almost by accident and they are specific. Immunomodulators are generally a divorce. Specifically about masks
                  They explained 100 times even here on VO there was a picture, the use of masks reduces the likelihood of transmission of the virus, especially if the mask is on the patient.
                  there was no need to whip up such a panic.

                  As much as necessary. We have practically exhausted our bed capacity. If it were not for quarantine, it would have gotten sick in the first wave, about the same as in the United States. People would fall right on the street, and they would not even be taken to hospitals. Here one aunt kicked a riot policeman half of the country and only discusses this, and what would have happened in this case. In addition, in overcrowded hospitals, people would die from other diseases (and this was the case even at a given level of bed capacity). Therefore, quarantine was not only needed, but was needed earlier and more severely, and quarantine without the preparation of public opinion can only be carried out at gunpoint.
                  "a deadly virus that threatens humanity"

                  This one certainly does not threaten, but Billy is talking about it, and now imagine a lethality not 2% but 20% with the same virulence. And this can be at any time .... We can assume that we are all lucky (who did not die), the training turned out.
                  1. BMP-2
                    BMP-2 4 February 2021 16: 41
                    +1
                    In this case, divorce is not only immunomodulators, but also many others: the benefits of resveratrol, remdesivir and other periodically emerging drugs, with sharp sales surges, the need to wear gloves and ... masks! The fact of the matter is that things did not go further than pictures: there were no links to VO to scientific materials proving the usefulness of wearing masks in case of coronavirus. Although it would seem that it could be simpler: since the mask works equally for inhalation and exhalation, its protective ability can be measured by simply counting the number of viruses that fall on the slide after exhalation through the mask by a sick person and comparing this number with the number of viruses that falls on the slide when you exhale without a mask. Based on this, you can easily calculate how much the mask is able to reduce viral load. Similarly, the effectiveness of social distance could be tested. But there are no such experiments! Moreover, until now no one knows at what specific viral load the infection occurs. There is only general reasoning like "well, probably the masks should reduce - therefore, they do." Well, since we are talking specifically about this coronavirus, and not about "antiviral protection in general," then it probably makes no sense to interpolate the situation by a virtual 20%.
                    1. bk316
                      bk316 4 February 2021 17: 29
                      -7
                      which falls on the slide after exhalation through the mask by a sick person and comparing this number with the amount of viruses that fall on the slide when exhaling without a mask.

                      Sorry, but again I advise you to learn the basics. Viruses do not fly several meters in the air. Therefore, breathing on the slide is meaningless. The infection is not accidentally called airborne. Infection occurs after contact with the mucous droplets from the nasopharynx of the infected microdrops.

                      Now about research. How the drops scatter there was enough research, both full-scale and with modeling in various conditions (transport, indoors on the street). I read about it 10 years ago. You can probably google it now. As far as I remember, the radius of 50% damage is 4 meters.
                      And here are studies on the penetration of microdroplets through masks.
                      https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/6/36/eabd3083

                      Allow a lyrical digression. The Internet has spawned (well, or made it widespread) a phenomenon called lameness in IT. This is when people do not have the necessary base, picking up information from the Internet, and make completely unfounded conclusions with a seal. For example, comparing the size of the virus with the size of the micropores in the mask (although it should have been compared with the size of microdroplets when coughing). Therefore, let the experts draw conclusions, in particular, believe what they tell you about the effectiveness of masks.

                      Well, for dessert, read my comment from about a year ago about masks.
                      Summary
                      This mask (GVS Elipse p3), in combination with a visor or goggles, allows you to avoid infection with a probability of more than 90%, even being in the same room with the infected for several days.
                      She does not ABSOLUTELY protect other people from the infected. laughing
                      In addition, it has extremely low breathing resistance.
                      Checked on yourself laughing
                      1. BMP-2
                        BMP-2 4 February 2021 17: 52
                        +1
                        You stubbornly see in my comments only what you want to see, moreover, you also add non-existent details! laughing Naturally, the infection spreads by airborne droplets, but the disease is caused not by drops, but by a certain number of viruses, which no one has yet counted. At the same time, there are a lot of reports that these viruses manage to be found on door handles, on metal, on plastic ... How is the glass slide fundamentally different from other objects and materials? I repeat once again: experiments "with masks in general" and "with masks against coronavirus" are two big differences. The latter are not. At least I haven't met. On account of the groundlessness of the conclusions and peremptory trust in specialists, I think you are somewhat biased in your assessment of the situation. yes For example, it is known that masks were also used during the Spanish flu epidemic, although then they had a completely different shape and covered only the nose (since it was believed that infection occurs precisely after the virus enters the nasal mucosa). Nevertheless, between 40 and 100 million died. In the United States, 80% of the sick constantly wore masks. Okay, since you are a professional who can be trusted, please explain to the dark lamer where the moisture trapped by the mask and, accordingly, the viruses contained in it go, otherwise I am already beginning to doubt the scientific nature of the school physics course.
                      2. bk316
                        bk316 8 February 2021 17: 41
                        0
                        but the disease is not caused by drops

                        Last time: the disease is caused by viruses, BUT THEY MOVE ON MICRODROPS. If this is a very difficult idea for you, please use an analogy.
                        There are barriers at the toll booth, you say, and someone investigated for different drivers of fat and thin women and children whether they could crawl under the barriers. I didn’t investigate because it’s not necessary, it is necessary that the car would not pass. Here is what the car will not pass researched.

                        It's simple, I don't even understand why it doesn't reach. Maybe you think that getting on the skin of your fingers, for example, will infect you? No, it will not infect it must get to the nasopharyngeal mucosa. By the way, a person regularly grabs his nose and moisture in his hands contacts the mucous membrane. The mask protects from this too.
                        Maybe you think that the virus can swim like a fish there or fly like a bird. NO can not. It just lies on the surface of a speck of dust or a drop. Until this speck of dust or drop falls on your mucous membrane, nothing will happen.

                        then please explain to the dark lamer where the moisture trapped by the mask goes,

                        It is thrown out together with the mask into a special container on which biological waste is written (of the class in probably in this case). A medical mask cannot be worn for more than 3 hours; it is not recommended for more than an hour. Then discard. In my mask, viruses are killed by heat treatment and blown out into the environment by a stream of hot air.

                        In the United States, 80% of the sick constantly wore masks.

                        AND? What do you think this speaks about? That masks do not reduce the likelihood of getting sick to 0%? Of course not.


                        I am not a professional in microbiology. I am a mathematician, although I have worked with microbiologists for 2 years. All that I am telling you is the basics available to people without special education.
                      3. BMP-2
                        BMP-2 8 February 2021 19: 29
                        0
                        Thank you for such a detailed answer. Nevertheless, it also contains some contradictions that I would like to deal with. Let's start with the fact that a virus cannot be killed by definition: all objects in nature are divided into living and non-living, and viruses are not attributed to either the first or the second category. They occupy an intermediate position: possessing some properties of living organisms, nevertheless, they are not living. Well, to kill the initially inanimate is, accordingly, just nonsense. But these are trifles. Now, in essence: the article, the link to which you provided, just says that the particles of liquid contained in the air exhaled by a person are simply crushed by some types of masks, and in the crushed state what you call microdroplets lasts much longer in the air. That is, if we are offered to wear masks in order to "reduce the likelihood of infecting others", then this is a deception or a delusion, since the likelihood of inhaling particles with viruses increases. With the Elipse masks and respirators you mentioned earlier, the situation is even more deplorable: there exhalation is carried out through the valves, that is, air and water particles contained in it enter the environment without hindrance. And you shouldn't have ridiculed my message with a glass slide: the exhaled air always contains moisture, and, you are absolutely right, it is with it that viruses move (I hope you won't deny the concept of "air humidity"?). Of course, in larger drops they fly farther, but in small ones they are able to stay in the air for longer. And you may be surprised, but the drops also have neither fins nor wings! :)) They are driven by completely different physical processes. By the way, it's strange: if you claim that the virus does not float, but once it gets on the mucous membrane, it paddles cheerfully where it needs to - do not find any contradiction here :?) Well, the funniest thing: the mask does not trap viruses, it retains moisture. Delays, but practically does not accumulate! (otherwise, by the end of the third hour of wearing, its weight would have changed significantly). And this means that even trapped particles of moisture, with the next exhalation or inhalation, have a very high chance of continuing their flight further.
                      4. BMP-2
                        BMP-2 8 February 2021 19: 41
                        0
                        And viruses do not move "on" drops, but "in" drops - after all, viruses are not Baron Munchausen :))
                      5. bk316
                        bk316 9 February 2021 13: 25
                        -1
                        They are in between

                        This is a narrowly scientific question. Well, read not to kill, but to destroy.
                        The particles of liquid contained in the air exhaled by a person are simply crushed by some types of masks, and in the crushed state what you call microdroplets remains in the air for much longer.

                        Sure. Bingo. That is why masks for the penetration of microdroplets are being studied, but I sent the link. Some can really only make the situation worse. Standard disposable (what is called medical) do not belong to such.
                        (otherwise, by the end of the third hour of wearing, its weight would have changed significantly

                        And he is changing.
                        And viruses do not move "on" drops, but "in" drops - after all, viruses are not Baron Munchausen :))

                        It is on. I can find research. The fact is that viruses are mostly protein, fat for simplicity. Pour oil into water you will understand everything.
                        You claim that the virus does not float, but once it gets on the mucous membrane, it paddles cheerfully where it needs to be -

                        There is no contradiction here. When they say that the virus infects the nasopharynx on the first day and not the third lung, this does not mean at all that in 3 days he rakes up the trachea to the lungs. But you need to read a textbook about the spread of the virus in the body, I cannot explain it here.

                        there, exhalation is carried out through the valves, that is, air and water particles contained in it enter the environment without hindrance

                        Bingo again. only need to read more carefully, I wrote.
                        This mask (GVS Elipse p3), in combination with a visor or goggles, allows you to avoid infection with a probability of more than 90%, even being in the same room with the infected for several days.
                        She does not ABSOLUTELY protect other people from the infected. laughing

                        But she protects me. Okay, let me tell you a secret. Masks are divided into 2 types. Which basically protect other people from infection and which basically protect the wearer from other people. Some for citizens in places of congestion, others for work in the hot zone. The first ones should be thrown away in an hour because they accumulate moisture and bacteria begin to multiply there, they make it difficult to exhale, they generally do not work well, the probability of infection in the hot zone in them is 90%. The second ones are usually reusable with replaceable filters, with valves, so they do not impede exhalation, are designed to work for 6-8 hours, then the filters are changed or dried at high temperatures, when using glasses, the probability of infection per shift is <1%.
                        Forgive me, but I will take care of myself first and wear a type XNUMX mask. Moreover, I have already been vaccinated. laughing I also do not use public transport and avoid meetings and concerts. laughing

                        Please note that you are getting deeper into the topic. For example, the spread of infection throughout the body can no longer be mastered without sufficiently deep knowledge of biology. If it's really interesting to read about botulism and rabies, what exactly is the mechanism of pathogenesis, you will understand how complicated everything is.
                      6. BMP-2
                        BMP-2 9 February 2021 15: 12
                        0
                        Thanks. No, I'm not getting deeper into the topic: I knew practically everything written (well, with the exception of the article you provided). It's just that with each new comment you cling to new aspects of the problem, to which my answers seemed to you the result of additional searches for information winked ... Perhaps we initially misunderstood the main point that everyone was trying to convey. I'm not going to convince you of the need to change your behavior - it is your right how to behave and how much to vaccinate. My main idea was that the information in the media is presented distorted and biased, the danger of the virus is exaggerated, and the measures taken do not have sufficient scientific justification. Well, also, apparently you and I have a different attitude towards "authoritative sources", although, perhaps, just authoritative sources are different. laughing
                      7. bk316
                        bk316 9 February 2021 17: 14
                        0
                        my main idea was that information in the media is presented distorted and tendentious,

                        Absolutely correct thought. Are you not used to this yet? After all, there is an information war between everyone and everyone. Blocks are at war with blocs, countries with countries, corporations with corporations, and more mixed. Therefore, this is all propaganda and it is very difficult to figure out whose interests it is. The rule "who benefits" is difficult to apply because some play long and others play short.
                        I still have friends in this field - great scientists. I just asked them how to defend themselves, how to vaccinate, which of the relatives to vaccinate whom - no. On vaccines, they gave me the whole alignment in the fall.

                        Am I actually wound up? For which I apologize. The trouble of modern society is the simplification of problems. Everything, including the question of masks, is much more complicated than it seems to the layman. And WHAT IS OFFENSE, the majority does not try to delve into this complexity, but simply loudly expresses their unfounded opinion ...
                        As a result, the wrong decisions are made. A striking example is our education, there are far from all the enemies of Russia, but when historians begin to tell how to teach mathematics, do not expect good.
                      8. BMP-2
                        BMP-2 9 February 2021 21: 12
                        0
                        Okay, let's consider misunderstandings eliminated, and the question is closed. hi And about the information war - yes, the main thing here is not to relax! soldier
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 3 February 2021 18: 32
    +5
    It is in Russia. In Israel, mortality from ischemic disease is low.
    The first is cancer. Each country is different.
    It costs a lot to develop a vaccine and produce hundreds of millions of servings
    of money. And any company will try to recover these costs.
  • atakan
    atakan 4 February 2021 12: 28
    +2
    The founder of unsinkable Microsoft spilled over everything even not in 2015, but even earlier - in his scandalous speech

    Yes, the material makes you expect the best, the level of a child's horror story.


    There is information from 2011.
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 3 February 2021 11: 34
    -2
    Interestingly, and the plague in the Middle Ages, the "Spanish" at the beginning of the last century is also a fake or the intrigues of Bill Gates?
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 3 February 2021 11: 58
      +10
      You may laugh, but in some countries from the highest tribunes there are calls for laws to punish the spread of rumors about the artificial origin of the caronovirus. There are those who have already passed laws on punishment for "spreading fakes about COVID-19" .. (https://rg.ru/2020/03/31/vvoditsia-nakazanie-za-rasprostranenie-fejkov-o-koronaviruse.html ). There is a clear analogy with the laws on "Holocaust denial", "distortion of the official history and belittling of victory ...." .... All these are links in one chain. Someone really does not want to reveal the true origin of the caronavirus, what it actually represents, what is its real threat, and so on ...
    2. nils
      nils 3 February 2021 12: 12
      +11
      Popular wisdom: The virus is not as bad as the vaccine against it.

      Judging by the activation of the coronavirus, he, looking at the president, also decided to start all over again ...

      Special offer 2021: Everyone who survived two waves of the pandemic will receive a third as a gift!

      - Yes, you are right, Vladimir Vladimirovich, it was a brilliant treatment, but it's a pity that the patient was lost.
    3. antivirus
      antivirus 3 February 2021 12: 20
      +5
      besides Gates, several thousand more have authoritative opinions - they cannot be broken.
      "One Bill in the field is not a warrior"
      only the Iron Curtain will save us from such partners.
    4. bk316
      bk316 3 February 2021 15: 19
      -5
      Is this also a fake or the machinations of Bill Gates?

      Of course Billy is to blame. Do you know the anecdote about Saddam Guitrer and Gates?
    5. Serpet
      Serpet 4 February 2021 14: 02
      +18
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Interestingly, and the plague in the Middle Ages, the "Spanish" at the beginning of the last century is also a fake or the intrigues of Bill Gates?

      The plague and the Spanish flu are natural pandemics (unsanitary conditions contributed), and the coronavirus is artificially inflated (the real scale and mortality rate is lower than the official ones)
      1. bk316
        bk316 8 February 2021 17: 51
        -2
        real scale and mortality are lower than official

        Do you know the real numbers of morbidity and mortality? Well let them know, I will be very grateful to you.
        But for some reason, exactly half of these unbelievers say exactly the opposite, that the numbers are underestimated. am
  • credo
    credo 3 February 2021 12: 34
    +5
    Quote: nsm1
    He left m $ a long time ago
    After Ballmer was, also kicked out, now Nadela, Indian
    But there are no intelligible arguments in the article from the word at all

    Yes, the author of the article, I just want to ask - Said A tell B.
    I still do not understand why he is not satisfied with the candidacy of Gates as one of the ideologues and maybe even sponsors of the creation of the covid?

    So the Author would say - darling Bill has never made scandalous speeches about the need to reduce the world's population and, in general, has nothing to do with healthcare.
    Only now, neither the WHO, with its ambiguous reputation, nor other respectable and authoritative institutions and scientists of the world, have been able to unequivocally confirm the true origin of covid.
    We are daily stuffed with messages from some "authorities" then from others about what and how they believe, and at this time and in the second year of the covid, WHO travels to China to determine the causes and source of this infection.

    So, taking into account the latest statements by Gates that a more terrible epidemic may await us in the future, I would like to ask the author of the article - "Why did Gates say this or who pulled his tongue if he is not like a physician and virologist and earns his money on something completely different. "
    He would have sat in silence and then no one would have suspected him of participating in the creation of the covid, and so he himself asked for a "hero".
    1. nsm1
      nsm1 3 February 2021 12: 40
      +5
      What Gates said did not come up with himself, the statement of a famous person attracted attention and nothing more.
      He is right about infections, for many reasons, from the accumulation of a genetic load to the widespread use of immunosuppressants for the treatment of arthritis, etc.
      Only now, the current funny virus is not at all drawn to a terrible attack.
      And even more so there is no particular reason to ask about its origin - not the first, not the last, it was and will be.
  • bad
    bad 3 February 2021 16: 59
    +20
    Quote: nsm1
    He left m $ a long time ago

    Withdrawn nominally. The beneficiary remained for sure.
  • Asad
    Asad 3 February 2021 11: 12
    0
    Ren TV branch on VO!
  • military_cat
    military_cat 3 February 2021 11: 13
    +4
    Today it is believed that Bill Gates just made a reservation there.
    Today it is believed that he was talking about the demographic transition. The less children die from diseases, the less people tend to give birth to them "in reserve" as in the Middle Ages, when half of the children born died in infancy.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 3 February 2021 11: 42
      +2
      "Refreshing to zero!"
      It reminded me of something and ours, local!
      1. depressant
        depressant 3 February 2021 16: 02
        +6
        You see, colleague, what the matter ...
        Is the Pirates of Silicon Valley movie saying nothing? )))
        Gates has always had a dubious reputation as a business partner, willing to devour any neighbor for his own success and profit, and the level of this willingness was surprising even for American shark-style capitalism. This is on the one hand.
        On the other hand, the topic of various pandemics began to unfold since the 90s and then only gained momentum, reaching the absurd not only in the form of films about zombies (here, rather, a political subtext), but also in the form of films about the horrors of mass infections by unknown viruses. And if some films end in hopelessness, the main part of others - with cheerful optimism "a vaccine has been found!", In general, be ill for your health, pharmaceutical corporations will not leave you in trouble. The number of this Hollywood as one of the forms of cinematography, in terms of the massive impact on the minds - the most important of the arts, is multiplying titanically, but not only of Hollywood. There are almost no developed countries left that would not be noted in the production of this product. It is worth typing in Yandex "films about an epidemic, a virus, an infection, free of charge", and those who have typed will be horrified at their number - it is endless! By means of cinematography, the population has long been indoctrinated with the idea that mass epidemics are inevitable. And the population is suggestible. And against this background, the so-called "predictions" of Bill Gates about the coming pandemics, his infusion of huge funds into pharmaceuticals, his ruthless business acumen, of course, form the idea of ​​him as a beneficiary of the coronavirus and all subsequent epidemics.
        For example, the well-known Kurginyan believes that this is so, but Gates is a pawn, he is acting behind the scenes)))
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 3 February 2021 18: 37
          -1
          Better not to do anything, not to declare anything, not to treat anyone for anything.
          We'll all die anyway?
          And no conspiracy. fellow no one will profit from our death,
          except for undertakers.
          Although Internet conspiracy theorists will come up with something here:
          "The rich do not treat us SPECIALLY!"
          1. depressant
            depressant 3 February 2021 19: 11
            +4
            Everything has already been invented, colleague, remember the "cholera riots")))
            For example, the riot of 1829 in St. Petersburg:

            "Both civilian and military medical forces were thrown into the extermination of the disease, but their power was not enough to overcome the disease. At that time, the doctors did not know the nature of cholera and the way of its transmission, as a result of which conditions were not created to fight the infection By that time, Emperor Nicholas I, fearing for the life and health of himself and his family, left St. Petersburg, moving to a residence in Peterhof.His example was also followed by the most affluent residents of the city, who nailed up their mansions and rushed out of the city, to dachas where the disease had not yet managed to get there thanks to the announced quarantine ... "

            "... Gradually, rumors began to appear in society that the disease was brought with them by foreign doctors who spread the infection in order to exterminate the Russian people. It did not take even several days for the rumor to spread throughout the city and subdue hundreds of people. Commoners beat doctors, broke carriages that carried patients, “freed” those who were just being taken to the hospital. In addition, they actively searched for “poisoners" by conducting searches. Especially those who, listening to the doctors' recommendations, had a special chlorinated lime , which was recommended to wipe some parts of the body in order to protect themselves from infection. Distraught people, ransacking a person who was barely standing on his feet from fear, removed a bottle from his pocket, and beat its owner half to death, suspecting a poisoner in him ... "

            "... Despite the absence of Nicholas, the semblance of order was maintained in the capital. The deserted streets, which were taken out when absolutely necessary, were" combed "by mounted policemen, who caught the sick and more and more often committed arbitrariness against the people who could not get proper medical The people were indignant when they learned that Nikolai had left the city, while the commoners were strictly forbidden to leave St. Petersburg. The impossibility of escape was controlled by the cordon on the border with the city.
            The atrocities and madness reached their climax, when a huge excited crowd was on Sennaya Square, where a temporary cholera hospital stood. Bursting inside, people knocked out the windows in the windows, broke furniture, kicked out the hospital staff and beat local doctors to death ... "

            "... There is a Petersburg tale that Emperor Nicholas I was able, without resorting to violence, to pacify the rebellious people, who were smitten by the eloquence of their tsar and fell on their faces, as soon as the autocrat began to reproach them with the words" to the riot of the French and Poles ”.
            However, the story says that bloodshed and the intervention of the troops were not done without. When the officials who remained in the city found themselves face to face with a popular revolt, the organizers of which destroyed hospitals and killed doctors, the city leaders gathered for a meeting with Count Peter Essen - a brilliant military man, general of infantry, appointed at the beginning of 1830 by the St. Petersburg governor-general. During the meeting, they came to a decision to call on the military force for help: the guards regiments, reinforced with artillery, surrounded the square, and the infantry, as well as Saperny and Izmailovsky
            battalions ... "
        2. Terenin
          Terenin 3 February 2021 22: 45
          +4
          Quote: depressant
          Gates has always had a dubious reputation as a business partner, ready to devour any neighbor for his own success and profit,

          "There is no such crime that capital would not go for the sake of 300% of the profit." This thought was first expressed by Thomas Joseph Dunning, a British trade union activist. He was later quoted in his Capital by Karl Marx.
  • prior
    prior 3 February 2021 11: 16
    +7
    Crazy, crazy, crazy world ...
    Money and technology in the hands of madmen is madness.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 3 February 2021 11: 28
      +3
      Quote: prior
      Money and technology in the hands of madmen is madness.

      Technology breeds money, money breeds madness. More money, more madness.
  • certero
    certero 3 February 2021 11: 19
    -5
    Only those who have never tried to organize at least a few families for a suburban picnic believe in conspiracy theory. That's when it becomes clear what to organize and even more so to manage such complex processes as the world economy or a pandemic is simply impossible.
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 3 February 2021 12: 07
      +8
      Quote: certero
      Only those who have never tried to organize at least a few families for a suburban picnic believe in conspiracy theory. That's when it becomes clear what to organize and even more so to manage such complex processes as the world economy or a pandemic is simply impossible.

      Sorry, but marshals in the war run multimillion-dollar picnics ... and the leaders of states rule hundreds of millions of the population ... It all depends on the possibilities. Now I watch information corporations rule the planet so robustly, even presidents are banned. And this is just the beginning.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 3 February 2021 18: 41
      +1
      I totally agree. Coming up with Internet conspiracy theories is not about loading boxes.
      Three seconds on the keyboard: "the Pope personally invented and spread covid in his night
      pot and splashed out the window! belay
      And everyone will pick up in 10 minutes: "here it is - the Vatican conspiracy!" am
    3. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 3 February 2021 18: 52
      +2
      Quote: certero
      just impossible.

      Read the catechism of Jews in the USSR, evaluate the goals and methods of achieving them, and compare the results of the collapse of the USSR with this information. Yes, do not forget to look at the final beneficiaries. wink
    4. BMP-2
      BMP-2 3 February 2021 20: 12
      0
      There are simply those who know how to manage, and those who think they are in control. wink
  • bober1982
    bober1982 3 February 2021 11: 21
    0
    From the article, a little funny - the author of the article signed up for Bill Gates's lawyer. He is the lump and tycoon of that mysterious world that appoints and displaces presidents, determines the dollar exchange rate, conducts transgender politics, arranges all kinds of revolutions and determines the world course of history.
  • Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 3 February 2021 11: 25
    +3
    it is clear that the world behind the scenes wants to reduce humanity, destroy Russians, reduce the population of the Russian Federation to 10-15 million people, and an artificial virus is very convenient for this .. 1991, Houston, Margaret Thatcher's speech sounds like this: “According to the world community, it is economically expedient living on the territory of Russia only 15 million people "..... they think about blacks too and destroy them with special vaccines" against herpes "..... causing infertility (by the way, they also talk about the vaccine against the year before last flu Kovid19). Bulgarian doctors in Libya - a trial in 2000-2007 in Libya on charges of five Bulgarian nurses, a Bulgarian doctor and a Palestinian student working in Libya, of intentionally infecting many Libyan children with HIV.

    In the early 1990s, AIDS cases were detected in Benghazi, and the number increased in 1997-1998. In 1998, a group of nurses from Bulgaria began working at the Al-Fatah Hospital in Benghazi.

    On February 9, 1999, in Benghazi, the Libyan authorities detained several dozen medical workers, including 23 Bulgarian citizens. A few days later, most of the detainees were released, but the Bulgarian nurses Kristian Vylcheva, Nasya Nenova, Valentina Siropulo, Valya Chervenyashka and Snezhana Dimitrova, the Bulgarian doctor Zdravko Georgiev and the Palestinian student-trainee Ashraf al-Hajudj remained in custody. For about a year they were believed to have been detained as witnesses, but in 2000 they were accused of deliberately infecting more than 400 children with HIV in Benghazi in order to destabilize the Libyan state.
    1. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 3 February 2021 11: 37
      +6
      they were accused of deliberately infecting more than 400 children with HIV in Benghazi in order to destabilize the Libyan state.


      And no conspiracies, neither, nor. It was just their initiative.
      1. Vladimir1155
        Vladimir1155 3 February 2021 12: 19
        +5
        it's not a fact that these nurses even knew what they were doing, they were given a vaccine and they used it, that in this vaccine, they do not even know, except for the name written on the package
  • rocket757
    rocket757 3 February 2021 11: 28
    0
    Look for who benefits

    So yes, the obvious and very likely!
    That's just in Indochina, another, another infection was found .... while local manifestations, but we'll see how it goes !!! According to the description, something very contagious and lethal.
    Who is this, why is this?
  • cniza
    cniza 3 February 2021 11: 30
    +5
    Well, in 2010, the media and paid bloggers managed to "smear" Gates.
    And now they can drown.


    Everything so that the people would not be bored, but on the quiet, everyone solves their own problems ...
    1. Mouse
      Mouse 3 February 2021 11: 51
      +4
      Quote: cniza
      Well, in 2010, the media and paid bloggers managed to "smear" Gates.
      And now they can drown.


      Everything so that the people would not be bored, but on the quiet, everyone solves their own problems ...

      laughing
  • Mouse
    Mouse 3 February 2021 11: 34
    +2
    China is no longer rolling as a catalyst ... to add something new, so that the wave does not weaken ... at least from a distance it resembles the ninth wave ...
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 3 February 2021 12: 22
    +3
    Nonsense. All this is just nonsense. What Gates meant was that reproductive health would decrease. And he wanted (but could not, of course) say something like the following - reproductive health is not to hell, people are born weaker and weaker and with more and more damaged genome. Rampant drunkenness, unwillingness to think about the next generations decimates humanity. Go outside. Just outside, wherever you live. Take a look around. How many strong, properly built, healthy people are around you? That's just it. Even athletes are now terribly deformed ...
    And Gates is absolutely right - the world has shown a miserable unpreparedness for a global challenge. In fact, scientists have not shown any global cooperation, everyone is tearing the blanket over themselves. All have extremely low skills, vaccine development and control procedures are fifty years out of date, and no one is concerned about the progress in this area.
    I do not exclude that he could have launched this whole funny "pandemic" to show the world HOW we are not ready. And be the threat real? Yes, we would have died, like whole farms rabbits die in three days! Gates will die soon, very soon. He has no time for money. Quite a person could decide to spend the remaining years for the benefit of humanity ...
    1. datura23
      datura23 3 February 2021 12: 51
      0
      such use stinks of fascism
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 4 February 2021 09: 50
        0
        Yes. Everything Western people do smells like cannibalism. Although it always seems to them that they are saving the world. Because the affairs of the world are so bad.
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 3 February 2021 12: 24
    +4
    Blah, blah ... facts in the studio ..
  • Emil mamedoff
    Emil mamedoff 3 February 2021 12: 26
    +6
    We have started criminal cases for spreading such fakes, and 90% of those caught are women. Most of them spread this panic precisely through whatsapp, you look at a voice message from an unfamiliar number, and with an alarming voice a woman tells some fairy tale about a covid, asks to pass this message on to friends that it is infa from reliable sources, etc.
    And as they catch them, it is a mandatory procedure to show them on TV, so that they apologize to all the people for sowing panic and spreading false rumors.
  • The eye of the crying
    The eye of the crying 3 February 2021 12: 29
    -2
    Many people still, not without reason, consider the pandemic and the "terrible" threat of Covid-19, and most importantly, unprecedented measures to combat them, something like a global fake.


    Many believe in a flat earth.
  • Freedim
    Freedim 3 February 2021 12: 38
    +2
    It is unlikely that Gates was personally involved, but what he knew is very likely ... All shadow puppeteers are forced to rely on advanced oligarchs, and information leaks in the process. Billy will still have a tidy sum, but that does not mean that someone will not have a hundredfold more. I would rather assume that these are the tricks of Monsanta or Soros & Co ... But they were unlucky that Russia did not squander specialists in biological threats. They wanted to cash in on big money, but here once - and everyone's deshman "satellite-vi". Both the rich and the poor .. Right now they are sitting in sorrow - neither the planned profit, nor the people have died according to the plan of "reducing the number of food on the planet."
  • HAM
    HAM 3 February 2021 12: 47
    0
    I am surprised at one thing - how else in Europe they did not blame Miller for a very cold winter!
    Surely, "Gazprom" decided to cut the dough and improve its financial position, which was shaken in connection with "SP2", arranging such a cold even in Spain ..... they will declare Miller a sadist ........ wassat
  • Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 3 February 2021 12: 52
    +2
    A kind of philanthropist who has invested more than $ 50 billion in the development of global health care and education, as well as in solving the problem of climate change over two decades.

    This is twenty years. And this is with Microsoft's current capitalization of almost a trillion dollars. Now the hero of the occasion in the press and social networks has invested in vaccines, and not only ... But how could it be otherwise?
    I don’t see any logic, what has Gates' own funds donated to charity for 20 years and Microsoft's capitalization at the beginning of 2020 ?!
  • Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 3 February 2021 14: 24
    +3
    Today it is believed that Bill Gates simply made a reservation there, just according to Freud, about the reduction of the world's population by 10-15 percent ...

    This is the West - a supporter of this idea now believes that Gates made a reservation, because he completely dude with an attempt to implement this idea, since as a result Western civilization itself was under attack, which he clearly did not plan! If this continues, then the West itself may not be included in the planned gold billion!
  • Engineer
    Engineer 3 February 2021 16: 55
    +2
    Every day, another genius at the VO tears off the veils.
    If Bill Gates only microchips and infects people, then who then lobotomizes them remotely to write this and take it seriously?
    A kind of philanthropist who has invested more than $ 50 billion in the development of global health care and education, as well as in solving the problem of climate change over two decades.
    This is twenty years. And this is with Microsoft's current capitalization of almost a trillion dollars. Now the hero of the occasion in the press and social networks has invested in vaccines, and not only ... But how could it be otherwise?

    The author, remember. Capitalization of the company in which you own 1% and the cost of charity directly from your pocket these are absolutely incomparable things.
    For 2016, Gates donated over $ 30 billion of his own money to charity. It was thanks to this that he ceased to be the richest man on the planet and allowed Bezos to get around him.
  • certero
    certero 3 February 2021 16: 57
    +1
    Quote: Barkhan
    Sorry, but marshals in war run multi-million dollar picnics ... and heads of state rule hundreds of millions of people ...

    Maybe not apologize. During the war, there is a rigid chain of command. and even she is able to achieve guaranteed results only for a very short period of time. Are you saying that some mysterious club rules the whole planet?
  • fif21
    fif21 3 February 2021 21: 25
    +2
    HIV, bird flu, swine flu, mouse virus - an analogy of TU 104, TU 134, Tu 154, TU 144 ... modernization is catching up! And I have big doubts that there are no biological weapons developers in the world! People and states working in this direction are subject to destruction, because this is very serious! The human population may simply not have time to create an antidote. The task of any State is to ensure the safety of its citizens from any threat, including biological. In the meantime, the war continues and the list of victims grows. It is necessary to fight not only the pandemic, but also its causes. hi
    1. Glory1974
      Glory1974 4 February 2021 09: 44
      +2
      HIV, avian flu, swine flu, mouse virus

      mad cow disease, atypical pneumonia, severe acute respiratory syndrome. The list can be continued for sure. A bunch of diseases that did not exist before.
      I have big doubts that there are no biological weapons developers in the world!

      They exist unambiguously. The laboratory that creates the vaccine has the virus strains for which the vaccine is being created. They multiply, are investigated. You can release them, but you can not release them. That's the whole difference between a vaccine developer and a biological weapon.

      The newspaper "Argumenty Nedeli" had a big investigative article about covid. The first mention of it dates back to 2016, when a report was published in the journal "Prirda" that it was possible to isolate a coronavirus that infects bats, which, as a result of infection, died of lung damage, and the possibility of its transmission to humans was investigated. There is no refutation of the article, you can read the journal "Nature" for 2016 yourself.
      Isn't it proof that the virus was released into the human population by humans?
  • tank64rus
    tank64rus 4 February 2021 10: 32
    0
    Capitalism is capitalism. Only in his passion for the pursuit of profit and the reduction of eaters, no matter how he buried all of humanity.
  • andrew42
    andrew42 4 February 2021 11: 57
    +1
    As for the "father of the pandemic," of course too much. But people (Bill Gates) are clearly aware of what is where and why, and how to make money on this global "universal" project "Covid-19".
  • Klingon
    Klingon 4 February 2021 14: 35
    0
    Quote: bk316
    leads to the development of aspiration pneumonia (due to the ingestion of food masses in the respiratory tract) with

    What are you talking about what food masses on mechanical ventilation are they all on artificial nutrition on glucose?
    And with dementia, they live for years with normal care.

    what am I talking about? I have been working in geriatrics for over 15 years so I know what I'm writing about. Yes, they live with dementia for years. but death occurs in 90% of cases from aspiration pneumonia. And what does mechanical ventilation have to do with it, I wrote specifically about dementia
  • NF68
    NF68 4 February 2021 17: 34
    0
    There is such a fat herd of fathers. He could not stir it all up alone, although it was easy to submit an idea.
  • ratcatcher
    ratcatcher 7 February 2021 20: 56
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    Please return the ratings to minus :)
  • I'm walking by
    I'm walking by 8 February 2021 02: 16
    0
    That only conspiracy theorists do not come up with. And why did I come back to read this shell?