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"From the challenges of Russia and China": the Pentagon will provide protection for mining on the moon

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"From the challenges of Russia and China": the Pentagon will provide protection for mining on the moon

The Pentagon will organize and ensure the protection of American lunar bases in the future, as well as mining on the moon. The Wall Street Journal reported.


The publication, citing knowledgeable sources in the government and in the space industry, writes that the US Department of Defense and NASA are expanding their interaction in order to further counter the "challenges of Russia and China," including on the Moon. The US military intends to provide protection for the US lunar bases, as well as protect mining on Earth's satellite.

(...) The Pentagon intends to use the experience of private companies gained during the implementation of civilian space programs to strengthen its dominant position in space, which could turn into an arena of military operations

- claims the publication.

For our part, we add that the United States authorities have repeatedly proposed to legislate the US ownership of space resources, including lunar ones.

On this news the head of Roscosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, reacted by saying that the militarization of the Moon and research on the Earth's satellite were unacceptable.

Note that in November 2020, Ukraine signed an agreement with the US National Aerospace Agency (NASA). According to him, Ukraine will jointly with the United States develop the Moon, Mars and asteroids, extracting minerals from them.

Earlier, the United States said that Russia is lagging behind the United States and China in the "lunar race", and the Russian lunar station "Luna-25" planned for launch is already outdated.
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  1. nsm1
    nsm1 2 February 2021 10: 25
    +12
    Even Antarctica is not divided, what the Moon is nafig ...
    Nothing at all.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 2 February 2021 10: 33
      +21
      The main thing is to write, "stake out" ... at the expense of the implementation of their claims, wishes, will be a little later ...
      It will be MANDATORY!
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 2 February 2021 10: 48
        +18
        Quote: rocket757
        The main thing is to write, "stake out" ... at the expense of the implementation of their claims, wishes, will be a little later ...
        It will be MANDATORY!

        And the laws will not work for them. And the next ones who fly to the moon will fall under US sanctions! Here's the number!
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 2 February 2021 10: 52
          +9
          Quote: Starover_Z
          And the next ones who fly to the moon will fall under US sanctions!

          Quite, quite a possible option.
          "the stallion has bitten the bit" go guess where it will carry him next ???
          1. Starover_Z
            Starover_Z 2 February 2021 11: 31
            +5
            Quote: rocket757
            Quote: Starover_Z
            And the next ones who fly to the moon will fall under US sanctions!

            Quite, quite a possible option.
            "the stallion has bitten the bit" go guess where it will carry him next ???

            That's for sure ! Go and know where this mad mare will carry her crazy brains further!
            1. KAV
              KAV 2 February 2021 12: 25
              +4
              And so it will be. lol
              1. keeper03
                keeper03 2 February 2021 14: 11
                +3
                Let everyone knock on the moon, away from planet Earth! wassat
                1. Vladimir Mashkov
                  Vladimir Mashkov 2 February 2021 21: 14
                  0
                  The impudence of the Americans is limitless! There is a Treaty on Outer Space, signed by almost all countries (including the United States), according to which space, the Moon and other celestial bodies belong ALL HUMANITY!
        2. lis-ik
          lis-ik 2 February 2021 14: 07
          +1
          Quote: Starover_Z
          Quote: rocket757
          The main thing is to write, "stake out" ... at the expense of the implementation of their claims, wishes, will be a little later ...
          It will be MANDATORY!

          And the laws will not work for them. And the next ones who fly to the moon will fall under US sanctions! Here's the number!

          Well, in the foreseeable future, this will definitely not threaten us, our bribe-takers will not pump Russia dry about something else and will not think about it.
        3. orionvitt
          orionvitt 2 February 2021 16: 11
          -3
          Quote: Starover_Z
          And the next ones to fly to the moon will be subject to US sanctions

          Doubtful. All this blah blah blah, purely out of the old habit, when America was really strong. Now the grip of the world gendarme is weakening, due to the accumulated unsolvable world problems and internal American squabbles, into which the states are sinking more and more. As for the technical part, it is generally sad. What are the lunar bases in FIG? If in our time, for them to simply rip their butts off to orbit is considered an achievement. (by the way, about the Apollo program, where there are more questions than answers). They will impose sanctions, let them dare. Remembered.
          1. Cosm22
            Cosm22 2 February 2021 16: 40
            -10%
            "If in our time, for them to just rip their butts off to orbit is considered an achievement."
            Is that so today in Russian schools the past and present of world cosmonautics are set forth?
            Didn't know ... I finished school a long time ago ...
            He believed that the situation was different. And that it is for this reason that the Russian cosmonauts on the ISS are asking the Americans to deliver them food on the American spacecraft. In the meantime, today they are content with the food that the Americans have shared with them. The reason is prosaic - the Russian "Progress MS-16" still cannot tear its ass to orbit.
            1. Maks winter
              Maks winter 2 February 2021 17: 54
              0
              what nonsense ???
              1. Cosm22
                Cosm22 2 February 2021 19: 25
                -1
                Is this in any way addressed to me? Satisfy curiosity.
                The launch of the Progress M-16 cargo vehicle carrying cargo for the ISS, including New Year's gifts for cosmonauts, was supposed to take place on December 11, 2020, but was postponed to February 15, 2021.
                In this connection, the Russian cosmonauts Sergei Ryzhikov and Sergei Kud-Sverchkov had a tragicomic situation when they simply began to lack food.
                Alexander Agureev, head of the nutrition department of the Institute of Biomedical Problems of the Russian Academy of Sciences, and the Russian side asked their colleagues from the United States to deliver Russian food products to the ISS on an American truck.
                But the Americans did it easier - they just shared their grocery kits with the Russians because of the large number of them at the station.
                Now the problem of what to eat has been solved.
                Didn't you know?
                Do Solovyov's programs talk about this?
                1. slipped
                  slipped 3 February 2021 02: 50
                  +1
                  Talking nonsense again.

                  Quote: Cosm22
                  The launch of the Progress M-16 cargo vehicle carrying cargo for the ISS, including New Year's gifts for cosmonauts, was supposed to take place on December 11, 2020, but was postponed to February 15, 2021.


                  Additional tests on the rocket were required. Now "Progress MS-16" is already filled with fuel.

                  Quote: Cosm22
                  In this connection, the Russian cosmonauts Sergei Ryzhikov and Sergei Kud-Sverchkov had a tragicomic situation when they simply began to lack food.


                  There is no OKEY or TAPE on the ISS. The products are usually delivered by trucks. This situation was known in advance and there is no need to invent some kind of "tragicomedy". Tragicomedy is a silo that has torn apart again.

                  Quote: Cosm22
                  Alexander Agureev, head of the nutrition department of the Institute of Biomedical Problems of the Russian Academy of Sciences, and the Russian side asked their colleagues from the United States to deliver Russian food products to the ISS on an American truck.


                  The usual thing. Previously, American food was delivered by Russian trucks. Constantly.

                  Quote: Cosm22
                  But the Americans did it easier - they just shared their grocery kits with the Russians because of the large number of them at the station.
                  Now the problem of what to eat has been solved.


                  They don't have a "large number" of products. We handed over those that were available, since Progress MS-16 will bring them more.
                  1. Cosm22
                    Cosm22 3 February 2021 03: 42
                    -7
                    We are all happy that Progress is already fueled.
                    Is it for this reason that after January 20, Roscosmos asked NASA for another 60 "man-days" for the Russian ISS crew, in addition to the already allocated 18 rations for two? In case of a new cancellation of the start of a Russian truck? On the occasion of the new "additional missile tests", apparently?
                    Power outages have happened before, that's right. Everyone has. And everyone always shared.
                    But only Roscosmos is silent about this situation. We would not have found out about it now if RIA-Novosti had not fished out this information from the broadcast of the negotiations of the cosmonauts with the MCC.
                    It is precisely because the Americans have accumulated a fair amount of food in orbit that they have found an opportunity to share them.
                    We agree that the 700 kilograms of food and 800 liters of water requested by Roscosmos is not so little. So much so that the Americans refused to carry this amount with their truck, there was simply no room for this additional cargo.
                    They just shared the food.
                    1. slipped
                      slipped 3 February 2021 04: 10
                      0
                      Quote: Cosm22
                      We are all happy that Progress is already fueled.


                      You can admire the photo of the ship before refueling.



                      Quote: Cosm22
                      Is it for this reason that after January 20, Roskosmos asked NASA for another 60 "man-days" for the Russian ISS crew, in addition to the 18 rations already allocated for two?


                      Stock pocket does not pull.

                      Quote: Cosm22
                      In case of another cancellation of the start of a Russian truck? On the occasion of the new "additional missile tests", apparently?


                      The rocket is almost complete. The assembly of the KGCH will take place soon.

                      Quote: Cosm22
                      Power outages have happened before, that's right. Everyone has. And everyone always shared.


                      Sure. The problem is not worth a damn.

                      Quote: Cosm22
                      But only Roscosmos is silent about this situation.


                      They simply did not attach any importance to this situation, since these are decisive working moments at the station. We agreed in advance.

                      Quote: Cosm22
                      We would not have found out about it now if RIA-Novosti had not fished out this information from the broadcast of the negotiations of the cosmonauts with the MCC.


                      So the journalist Strugovtsev breathes unevenly on Rogozin and fishes. lol

                      Quote: Cosm22
                      It is precisely because the Americans have accumulated a fair amount of food in orbit that they have found an opportunity to share them.


                      Did the astronauts diet? laughing Listen, already somehow dumb. But no, they first devoured our stock, exactly - it tastes better. laughing

                      Quote: Cosm22
                      We agree that the 700 kilograms of food and 800 liters of water requested by Roscosmos is not so little.


                      Progress of 2,5 tons usually brings in only.

                      Quote: Cosm22
                      So much so that the Americans refused to carry this amount with their truck, there was simply no room for this additional cargo.
                      They just shared the food.


                      Well, okay, what's the problem then? The station has only one crew, and the supplies are common to everyone. Inflating an elephant out of a fly is beneficial only to those who benefit. laughing
                2. Maks winter
                  Maks winter 3 February 2021 22: 48
                  0
                  The nightingale is more likely to be listened to by citizens aged about 70+) and people who wildly adore all sorts of TV shows, whose brain melts from self-stress. the last time I saw a TV a couple of years ago, and something like "news lightning", but this news about "Progress M-16" I may have missed ...
              2. eklmn
                eklmn 2 February 2021 20: 29
                -4
                what nonsense ???

                Max,
                I, Amer, know about your problems, but you don't? Or are your ears big, convenient for noodles, or have you been banned from Google? Most likely they hid it from you, but for this I would be offended by the country ...
                Do not worry - on this site you can see the launch of the SpaceX Starship SN9 rocket today - the first in Russia!
                https://finance.yahoo.com/news/faa-clears-way-spacex-starship-162046092.html
                1. Cosm22
                  Cosm22 2 February 2021 21: 03
                  -3
                  We have been waiting for the start of the ninth for a long time.
                  And, by the way, it would have already taken place. If not for the eternal struggle of the old dogmas with the new and progressive.
                  I personally do not like this fuss of SpaceX with the FAA.
                  1. eklmn
                    eklmn 2 February 2021 23: 38
                    -2
                    If not for the eternal struggle of the old dogmas with the new and progressive. I personally do not like this fuss of SpaceX with the FAA.

                    I disagree with you, although I am not in the know. The FAA says something about the safety of the population ... I suspect SpaceX did not create logistics - when they calculate the radius of dispersion of the rocket fragments from an explosion during the apogee, then you need to put police barriers on the ground at a certain time and get a bunch of permits from local authorities for start moment.
                    If something is wrong, but launched, then SpaceX will get in the head ...
                    The launch took place, the rocket hung, as it should be, sank on its stomach, but did not straighten vertically and crashed. We will wait for the SN10 flight ... already at the start ...
                    1. OgnennyiKotik
                      OgnennyiKotik 2 February 2021 23: 43
                      -3
                      Quote: eklmn
                      but did not straighten vertically and crashed.

                      More precisely, the second engine did not work, one is not enough for braking.
                      Tomorrow they will be jumping for joy.
                      1. slipped
                        slipped 3 February 2021 02: 38
                        +1
                        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
                        Tomorrow they will be jumping for joy.


                        no, usually "not Muscovites" jump, but we will just demonstrate this video laughing

                      2. eklmn
                        eklmn 3 February 2021 16: 16
                        -2
                        About how many wonderful discoveries
                        Prepare the spirit of enlightenment
                        And the experience of the son of errors difficult,
                        And genius, the paradoxes friend
                        And case, god inventor

                        Pushkin about the Mask ...
                      3. slipped
                        slipped 3 February 2021 16: 20
                        +1
                        Quote: eklmn
                        Pushkin about the Mask ...


                        Also screw Lermontov to it. Or Slepakov. Porzh. laughing
                      4. eklmn
                        eklmn 3 February 2021 16: 27
                        -2
                        An article about the fact that Russia does not have time to stake out areas of mining on the Moon. It is ahead of the USA / Canada / UAE / Ukraine / Australia / Europe and China. All these countries will dig where they want, Russia - where it is left ... Is it still funny?
                      5. slipped
                        slipped 3 February 2021 16: 39
                        0
                        Quote: eklmn
                        An article about the fact that Russia does not have time to stake out areas of mining on the Moon.


                        Are there "mineral deposits" on the moon? Where, show on the map. I'd love to watch.

                        Quote: eklmn
                        It is ahead of the USA / Canada / UAE / Ukraine / Australia / Europe and China. All these countries will dig where they want, Russia - where it is left ... Is it still funny?


                        Конечно. laughing What are they ahead of? For example, we are creating another lunar today, which flies this fall to the South Pole of the Moon for water, which we found there earlier:



                        In the photo, several different mock-ups of the apparatus for various tests and the payload module are visible on the stocks. Testing of the aircraft itself is coming soon. What is wrong with you?
            2. Cosm22
              Cosm22 3 February 2021 03: 01
              -2
              Yes, formally claims can be made against Musk. There is always a reason to find fault with the violation of any paragraph of the instructions.
              But it's not in vain that infa appeared about the imminent entry into force of new simplified rules.
              If the rules were impeccable, they would hardly be changed.
              As for the ninth prototype, I saw it. I analyze all available videos. Curious...
              1. eklmn
                eklmn 6 February 2021 20: 47
                0
                Musk said it was a mistake:
                “Responding to SpaceX enthusiast Tim Dodd, better known as the Everyday Astronaut, on Twitter, Musk admitted what went wrong. “It was foolish of us not to start three engines and immediately turn off one, as it takes two to land,” Musk replied. "
                And he promised to do so when starting SN10.
          2. eklmn
            eklmn 4 February 2021 17: 49
            0
            Found on youtube an interesting comparison of SN8 & SN9 flights - very informative !!!
            https://youtu.be/ctJRJnfFl88?t=1
      2. slipped
        slipped 3 February 2021 02: 51
        0
        Quote: Maks Winter
        what nonsense ???


        "Just a skillful lie ...." © not mine. laughing
  • PSih2097
    PSih2097 2 February 2021 10: 59
    +5
    Quote: rocket757
    The main thing is to write, "stake out" ...

    so they have been trading sites on the moon for a long time.
    Quote: nsm1
    Even Antarctica is not divided, what the Moon is nafig ...

    The ocean has been explored by only 5% as a maximum, we still have places in Siberia where no human has gone before.
    1. sergo1914
      sergo1914 2 February 2021 12: 18
      +1
      Quote: PSih2097
      The ocean has been explored by only 5% as a maximum, we still have places in Siberia where no human has gone before.


      There are such places in Gelendzhik.
    2. eklmn
      eklmn 2 February 2021 20: 36
      0
      we still have places in Siberia where no human has ever set foot.

      All claims are not to the authorities, but to Ermak - he hid these places !!!
  • zadorin1974
    zadorin1974 2 February 2021 11: 26
    +6
    For the most part, Victor, they have been doing this systematically since the seventies. Firms have been created that sold certificates for the Lunar areas. Like garbage and the sale of "air". But they enjoyed it mainly in the USA. Now, knowing the attitude of the US to world laws, we know the verdict of the US Supreme Court on the recognition of property in advance. And our musician and poet will continue to ruin RossKosmos and hum about inadmissibility. In the course of the course, we need to start training on trampolines.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 2 February 2021 11: 31
      +4
      Quote: zadorin1974
      Like garbage and selling "air".

      Alexey soldier
      when any garbage is backed up by a REAL POWER, it becomes not such a fig circumstance, a reason for any not fig conflicts.
      There, arrogant from the islands, recognized some kind of son from "our fat belly" as a ram ... tfu, a Siberian baron ??? with what fright, one wonders?
      1. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 2 February 2021 11: 39
        +3
        So after all, I say that many things, at first glance seem to be complete idiocy, at the finish line turn out to be a multi-move of the West. Historically England has done so much dirty trick on Russia, for more than ten centuries, documented. But no, money still flows to the British and that's it. "political" thieves and "victims" of the regime in the same place.
        Elementary - the attitude of the West to our Patents and Intellectual Property.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 2 February 2021 11: 41
          +1
          So for every tricky one there is a screw with a reverse thread!
          You just need to screw it in on time!
          1. zadorin1974
            zadorin1974 2 February 2021 11: 46
            0
            That's where we have problems Victor, so with word and deed "IN TIME" - there is a kapets with emphasis and separateness.
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 2 February 2021 11: 50
              +1
              Well, yes, in words it is easy to be smart ... in fact, it gets a lot more complicated.
              1. zadorin1974
                zadorin1974 2 February 2021 22: 43
                +1
                Yes, Victor. I'm smart from my bell tower. Otherwise, what kind of bolt are YOU and I doing here? In the kitchen with my wife, it has become boring for me to talk for twenty years. As I understand, YOU are from the ELITE who decides? do you want fried? "
                I like your reasoning, but do not pull the blanket “I am Dartanyan - the rest are not smart.” If you want to live like this, then what are we all for?
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 3 February 2021 06: 20
                  0
                  Quote: zadorin1974
                  , as I understand, YOU are from the ELITE, which decides?

                  SURE! from the same as ALL others ... who DECIDE EVERYTHING, giving \ not casting their vote in the elections! for the one we trust ...
                  Quote: zadorin1974
                  I like your reasoning, but do not pull the blanket "I am Dartagnan - the rest are not smart"

                  Personal opinion ... not claiming ... but not claiming anything! How many people, so many opinions and only common sense to help us.
                  Dartagnan - perky, fighting, Gallic cockerel ... no, no, it's definitely not about us.
          2. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 2 February 2021 11: 55
            +1
            As far as I know, the main principle of Roman law is that whoever cultivates the land is the owner. And Roman law is the basis of laws in any country.
            With the moon it is easier, whoever gets the moon is the one who owns it. And they have already started mining for about 50 years. The precedent was for sampling ...
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 2 February 2021 13: 15
              +1
              Who else "tasted" the moon? They are not alone.
            2. Bolt cutter
              Bolt cutter 2 February 2021 13: 51
              0
              the main principle of Roman law is that whoever cultivates the land is the owner.
              No man's property follows the first occupier, as Roman law said. But still the main thing (in real life) is who judges and ensures the execution of court decisions.
            3. zadorin1974
              zadorin1974 2 February 2021 22: 54
              0
              Let’s now be specific. 50 years have been processing, there have been landings, look at the coordinates of the order for the sampling of soil from private owners.
        2. eklmn
          eklmn 2 February 2021 20: 40
          0
          Elementary - the attitude of the West to our Patents and Intellectual Property.

          Correctly! How much can you endure while they use the periodic table and Popov's radio waves for free !!!
          1. zadorin1974
            zadorin1974 2 February 2021 23: 00
            0
            I wish you to read the documents. Try Dorsay. Weak !!!!
    2. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 2 February 2021 19: 34
      +1
      Now, knowing the attitude of the USA to world laws, we know in advance the verdict of the US Supreme Court on the recognition of property.

      We must take this seriously.
      For example, America inundated Australia with millions of dollars in fines for the release of Australian UGG winter boots. UGG has been an Australian brand since 1960, but one American patented the UGG brand recently and is demanding kickbacks from Australian manufacturers and winning in American courts.
      https://uggaustraliaclassic.com.au/
      1. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 2 February 2021 23: 02
        0
        Try to explain you a little higher than the troll, I think it won't work))))
  • Civil
    Civil 2 February 2021 10: 41
    +1
    This news was reacted by the head of Roscosmos Dmitry Rogozin, who said that the militarization of the Moon and research on the Earth's satellite are unacceptable.

    But the fact that? Anything else you promise? Battlestar by 2250? A freak man.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 2 February 2021 10: 46
      +4
      Quote: Civil
      A freak man.

      No need to talk about sad things ... our mood just started to rise ...
    2. A1845
      A1845 2 February 2021 11: 23
      +4
      Quote: Civil
      Anything else you promise?

      a large batch of improved trampolines
  • AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 2 February 2021 10: 45
    +4
    Antarctica is at the very least protected by an international treaty that has been in effect for almost 60 years. But the Moon, it is quite possible that under pressure from the States it will be privatized (or torn apart - as you like).
    1. nsm1
      nsm1 2 February 2021 10: 47
      -4
      Treaty ?!
      Not even funny ...
      Nobody and nothing prevents you from leaving or simply violating the order.
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 2 February 2021 14: 13
        -1
        It gets in the way of the fact that almost everyone can get to Antarctica, but not the moon.
        1. Maks winter
          Maks winter 2 February 2021 18: 06
          -2
          everyone? well, yes, well, yes ... you will find a lot of idiots who are ready to spend almost 6 million on this ,, unforgettable ,, trip? ,, almost everyone ,,[b] [/ b] this you probably addressed to the oligarchic class?)
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 2 February 2021 18: 36
            0
            6 million? Are you kidding me? And where does this figure come from? Well, I know people who have been there for much less money; in fact, tourists are taken there for quite a lift.

            The phrase I first addressed to the countries, of course, we are talking about the development of mineral resources by countries and corporations, well, even Ukraine has its own station in Antarctica. And practically any developed and large country with a keen desire can organize an expedition there or have a station there in one way or another. Countries that cannot do this in VO and countries are not considered to be.
    2. NDR-791
      NDR-791 2 February 2021 10: 50
      +5
      it is quite possible that under pressure from the States it will be privatized
      According to UN General Assembly Resolution 2222 (XXI) of the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs (UNOOSA) of 1966, outer space, including the moon and other celestial bodies, is not subject to national appropriation either by proclaiming sovereignty on them, nor by use or occupation, nor by any other means
      1. Shkworen
        Shkworen 2 February 2021 11: 13
        +3
        all this is good, but as you know, the most democratic power on the planet tends to put a bolt on such resolutions :)
        nothing personally, just business :)
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 2 February 2021 11: 15
          +1
          For some reason, they do not dare to put a bolt on treaties on Antarctica ...
          1. Shkworen
            Shkworen 2 February 2021 11: 17
            +2
            so a treaty is not a resolution :)
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          2. nsm1
            nsm1 2 February 2021 17: 58
            -3
            Even Ecuador put it down.
            And he inserted the corresponding article into the constitution.
            Contracts are respected only until they are profitable, examples are a wagon ...
      2. Flooding
        Flooding 2 February 2021 11: 21
        0
        Quote: NDR-791
        outer space, including the Moon and other celestial bodies, is not subject to national appropriation either by proclaiming sovereignty on them

        What does it say about private property?
        For example, corporate misappropriation?
        The trouble is that the world has changed a lot over the past half century.
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 2 February 2021 11: 33
          0
          For example, corporate misappropriation?
          So let them build there, and we ...
          We will definitely bang !!! And more than once
          The whole world is in trash !!!
          But then ... (c) tongue
          Here is Pessimist22 below:
          I think that we need to start designing a lunar bulldozer, I think it will come in handy
          These are illegal settlements to demolish wassat
      3. sergo1914
        sergo1914 2 February 2021 12: 19
        0
        Quote: NDR-791
        it is quite possible that under pressure from the States it will be privatized
        According to UN General Assembly Resolution 2222 (XXI) of the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs (UNOOSA) of 1966, outer space, including the moon and other celestial bodies, is not subject to national appropriation either by proclaiming sovereignty on them, nor by use or occupation, nor by any other means


        And if they hold a referendum?
    3. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 2 February 2021 11: 21
      +3
      Quote: AlexVas44
      Antarctica is at the very least protected by an international treaty that has been in effect for almost 60 years. But the Moon, it is quite possible that under pressure from the States it will be privatized (or torn apart - as you like).

      There is also a treaty about "activities on the moon and other celestial bodies." From December 18, 1979. The agreement was concluded within the framework of the UN. There are only two problems with this agreement ...

      The first problem is the list of countries that have ratified this Treaty. Apart from laughter, the list of these "great space powers" causes nothing -.
      Australia, Austria, Belgium, Kazakhstan, Lebanon, Morocco, Mexico, Netherlands, Pakistan, Peru, Uruguay, Philippines, Chile.

      The second problem is that the United States is pushing for "an international agreement on new rules for the exploration and development of the moon." No longer within the UN, but within the US initiative. And you can be sure that, with the help of their popolizals, they will push through.

      There is, perhaps, a third problem. And she is the main one. It is very difficult for the United States to sign any Treaty if it was not they who proposed it (that is, if it is not directly beneficial exclusively to the United States) and it is absolutely easy to withdraw from any Treaty. However, this is normal general practice for the United States.

      So we already saw "Star Wars" (SDI) performed by the USA with "conductor" Reagan 40 years ago. We are waiting for a new concert - "Moon Wars". And there the "Martian" will arrive in time.

      Py.Sy. For some reason Australia signed the first ridiculous Treaty with one hand, the other with the other. Dissociative Identity Disorder?
  • RealPilot
    RealPilot 2 February 2021 11: 10
    -1
    I remember the adventures of the UNKNOWN fellow

    Our "partners" now have a fashion for humor ...
  • astepanov
    astepanov 2 February 2021 17: 53
    -1
    Rogozin needs to declare claims for mining in the Sun. There is hydrogen to a fig and helium, we will inflate erostats and carry pensioners on a well-deserved vacation to the Maldives and the Costa del Sol. I want to go to the Spanish Riviera - no save. Hands off our Sun!
    How can I remember Chukovsky?

    "" Hey you, animals, come out,
    Crocodile win
    To greedy Crocodile
    He turned the sun into the sky! "
    ***
    Here the hare came out
    And she said to Bear:
    "It's a shame for the old man to roar -
    You're not a hare, but a bear.
    You go and kosolapy
    Crocodile scratch
    Tear it apart
    Tear the sun out of the mouth.
    ***
    And got up
    Bear,
    Snarled
    Bear,
    And to the Big River
    Ran
    Bear.

    And in the Big River
    Crocodile
    Is lying
    And in his teeth
    No fire is burning, -
    The sun is red,
    The sun is stolen.

    The bear came quietly,
    I pushed him lightly:
    "I tell you, villain,
    Spit up the sun soon!
    But not that, look, I will catch
    I'll break it in half, -
    Will you, ignorant, know
    Steal our sun! "
    1. dauria
      dauria 2 February 2021 18: 18
      0
      Rogozin needs to declare claims for mining in the Sun. There's hydrogen to fig and helium


      Easier ... Ownership of solar radiation. The whole spectrum of the electromagnetic, corpuscular, and at the same time the gravitational field of the Sun. And urgently to privatize black holes in the center of the Milky Way galaxy, and Andromeda. Will come in handy.
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 3 February 2021 07: 56
        +1
        "From the challenges of Russia and China": the Pentagon will provide protection for mining on the moon
        the pentagon ... behind the bath I have a lot of fossils ... take it out, I'll say thank you ... just don't send blacks, you can't see them at night, but I don't like blacks and racists. tongue
  • Guru
    Guru 2 February 2021 10: 27
    -3
    Earlier, the US said that Russia is lagging behind the US and China in "moon race", and the Russian lunar station Luna-25, planned for launch, is already outdated.
    Maybe it's enough to chase already? Let China chase, and we will bring him cartridges (Modules).
    1. slipped
      slipped 2 February 2021 10: 42
      -2
      Quote: Guru
      Earlier, the US said that Russia is lagging behind the US and China in "moon race", and the Russian lunar station Luna-25, planned for launch, is already outdated.
      Maybe it's enough to chase already? Let China chase, and we will bring him cartridges (Modules).


      We don't race. We have our own Lunar program. "Luna-25" cannot "become obsolete" in any way, since it is an integral part of a large program. It is followed in this FKP by two more robotic spacecraft, and then two more.

      China buys from us finished equipment for its space program.
      1. Cosm22
        Cosm22 2 February 2021 11: 50
        +2
        VERY great program?
        I will be very grateful if you can give an answer to the question: on what carriers will this grandiose Russian lunar program be carried out?
        What launch vehicles does Russia have for this? Capable of at least reaching lunar orbit?
        I hope it is clear that without them all this set of devices already promoted in the media with the indexes "25-28" is just a pile of scrap metal?
        1. slipped
          slipped 2 February 2021 12: 28
          +2
          Quote: Cosm22
          VERY great program?


          In the current FKP until 2025, we have three automatic stations will be sent to the Moon. The first station is flying this year.

          Quote: Cosm22
          I will be very grateful if you can give an answer to the question: on what carriers will this grandiose Russian lunar program be carried out?


          The launch of the first two stations Luna-25 and Luna-26 will be carried out using the Soyuz-2.1b launch vehicle with the Fregat upper stage. The rocket for the first station has already been ordered. The flight copy of the station is being prepared for thermal vacuum tests.
          1. Cosm22
            Cosm22 2 February 2021 13: 09
            -1
            Exactly.
            This is the answer I was waiting for.
            For I remember very well our correspondence dispute about the Russian lunar program. And your statements that Russia is following its own, special path in the exploration of the moon.
            So, Russia is forced to follow this path. For nothing else remains.
            For there are no suitable carriers to carry out even the slightest bit complex scientific program.
            Therefore, the weight of each lunar spacecraft is scrupulously calculated, and therefore its functional is cut, and therefore previously announced scientific instruments are not installed on it.
            Because only the Union flies. And the Union is a middle peasant. It's not even heavy, and even less superheavy. And if Soyuz-2.1b still pushes Luna-25 out, then Luna-28 is too much for it. And there is little hope for Angara today, for there is no hydrogen plant. Without it, a decent load to the moon cannot be delivered.
            Therefore, the emphasis in the grandiose program on automatic research methods. Drove the device with a sin in half, put it down - and analyze the received data from the devices.
            There is no question of returning the spacecraft. All the more so about manned flights to the lunar orbit.
            For everything depends on weight. More precisely - in the RN.
            More precisely, in their absence.
            1. slipped
              slipped 2 February 2021 21: 06
              -2
              Quote: Cosm22
              Exactly. This is the answer I was waiting for.


              Really? laughing

              Quote: Cosm22
              For I remember very well our correspondence dispute about the Russian lunar program. And your statements that Russia is following its own, special path in the exploration of the moon.


              We have our own domestic lunar program begins this year.

              Quote: Cosm22
              So, Russia is forced to follow this path. For nothing else remains.


              While you are forced to sculpt a humpback. lol

              Quote: Cosm22
              For there are no suitable carriers to carry out even the slightest bit complex scientific program.


              On what scale are you trying to calculate the "complexity of a scientific program"? On the scale of your inferiority? laughing

              Quote: Cosm22
              Therefore, the weight of each lunar spacecraft is scrupulously calculated, and therefore its functional is cut, and therefore previously announced scientific instruments are not installed on it.


              All devices that have been planned are installed. 25 scientific instruments were delivered to the Luna-9 station. The equipment is designed to study the composition, structure and physicomechanical properties of the lunar polar regolith, dust and plasma exosphere in the vicinity of the south pole of the Moon. In the course of scientific research, an estimate of the mass fraction of water in the lunar soil at the landing point should be obtained. The station has been operating for 1 year.

              Quote: Cosm22
              Because only the Union flies. And the Union is a middle peasant.


              Because the stations are designed to launch the Soyuz 2.1b LV, and it sends 2 kg to the Moon.

              Quote: Cosm22
              It's not even heavy, and even less superheavy.


              Mr. obviousness? laughing

              Quote: Cosm22
              And if Soyuz-2.1b still pushes Luna-25 out, then Luna-28 is already too much for it.


              Numbers 25,26,27 fly on Soyuz-2
              Number 28,29 fly on "Angara-A5"

              Quote: Cosm22
              And there is little hope for Angara today, for there is no hydrogen plant.


              The "Angara-A5" launch vehicle with a DM RB, without a hydrogen generator, delivers 4 kg to the Moon. The mass of "Luna-500" and "Luna-28" is ~ 29 kg.

              Quote: Cosm22
              Therefore, the emphasis in the grandiose program on automatic research methods. Drove the device with a sin in half, put it down - and analyze the received data from the devices.


              With "sin in half" India and Israel smashed their landing craft on the Moon. But the starting mass of "Chang'e-3" was 1 kg, which is comparable to the "Luna-200" with a starting mass of 25 kg.

              Quote: Cosm22
              There is no question of returning the spacecraft.


              The Luna-28 spacecraft will have a recoverable spacecraft. The task is to return to the Earth samples of soil in cryofreeze.

              Quote: Cosm22
              All the more so about manned flights to the lunar orbit.


              A manned flight to the Moon is scheduled for the end of this decade.
      2. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 3 February 2021 08: 12
        0
        Quote: slipped
        We don't race. We have our own Lunar program. "Luna-25" cannot "become obsolete" in any way, since it is an integral part of a large program. It is followed in this FKP by two more robotic spacecraft, and then two more.

        fill the holes on the roads ...
        1. slipped
          slipped 3 February 2021 12: 47
          0
          Quote: Aerodrome
          fill the holes on the roads ...


          So we are in no hurry. "Calmly burning tanks." laughing
    2. military_cat
      military_cat 2 February 2021 10: 53
      +1
      Quote: Guru
      Maybe it's enough to chase already? Let China chase, and we will bring him cartridges (Modules).

      Yes, enough scientific, technical and industrial races, we will win in the geopolitical one. Moreover, nothing is required for this, except for specially trained experts who will explain why we are winning.
      1. Guru
        Guru 2 February 2021 11: 03
        -1
        military_cat
        Yes, enough scientific, technical and industrial races, we will win in the geopolitical one.

        I realized what I wrote myself. Let's chew.
        "Yes, enough scientific, technical and industrial races" No, not enough, but where to get money for the Lunar Race? In a pension fund? Maybe start selling gasoline for 100 rubles? That's when you come up with something, and write posts "Clever" My generation SDI enough. To live in a gut, but with the thought that somewhere on the moon a tractor is driving, I don't want to. Let China realize its imperial ambitions, it has a lot of money, and we will sell it to it, and for one thing, Russia will raise the standard of living. And Russia has neither finances nor resources to spend on global projects.
        1. military_cat
          military_cat 2 February 2021 12: 34
          -1
          Quote: Guru
          Let China realize its imperial ambitions, it has a lot of money, and we will sell it to it, and for one thing, Russia will raise the standard of living. And Russia has neither finances nor resources to spend on global projects.

          The funny thing is that we have imperial ambitions, we are already paying for them with the standard of living. And there is no moon race.
          1. Guru
            Guru 2 February 2021 12: 43
            0
            The funny thing is that we have imperial ambitions, we are already paying for them with the standard of living. And there is no moon race.
            The fact of the matter is that only ambition. The United States is understandably mad with fat, they do not know where else to allocate money for cutting, with China it is also clear, they (China) have so many American pieces of paper that every Chinese can paste over a sarter. And Russia "Not to fat, maybe I would live." Putin is at a loss, at his press conferences he distributes all the "sweet bones" to the offended, but this no longer works. The ruble continues to fall in price against the dollar, prices in stores are growing steadily, gasoline is getting more expensive, AND WE WANT TO START A TRACTOR IN SPACE.
            Isn't it absurd?
            1. military_cat
              military_cat 2 February 2021 13: 18
              -1
              Quote: Guru
              The fact of the matter is that only ambition.

              Well, not really, only one support of the regimes spent money, which would have been enough 7.5 programs "Artemis".

            2. Cosm22
              Cosm22 2 February 2021 13: 43
              +4
              Really...
              The end of the 20s - the beginning of the 30s in the USSR ... There is both famine and devastation ... And two eccentrics - Tsiolkovsky and Tsander - dream of space ...
              Isn't it absurd?
              1956 ... You can still see traces of war, again devastation ... The country is exhausted, trying to establish at least some good life. And Korolev makes his "seven" ...
              Yes, by necessity. Yes, military objectives are a priority. But for some reason they were not poked out. And they were proud of Gagarin's flight. And huge sums of money were invested in the cosmonautics (including civilian use) of the country that had not yet fully retired from the war.
              Isn't it absurd?
              1. Guru
                Guru 2 February 2021 14: 46
                -1
                Cosm22 (Vladimir)
                The end of the 20s - the beginning of the 30s in the USSR ... There is both famine and devastation ... And two eccentrics - Tsiolkovsky and Tsander - dream of space ...
                Isn't it absurd?
                No Vladimir, NOT Absurd! They dreamed, and did not spend money on which they could feed the hungry, and sometimes they themselves starved.
                1956 ... You can still see traces of war, again devastation ... The country is exhausted, trying to establish at least some good life. And Korolev makes his "seven" ...

                And who gave him (Korolev) such resources? Is it not the military? Because they were afraid that there would be nothing to answer the aggressor, so they spent, and the atomic bomb was created by the half-starved and created. but that was a necessary measure, and of course with its own bonuses, such as Gagarin's flight and peaceful atom.
                But now in the 21st century, why do we need a tractor on the moon? And if we talk about the extraction of lunar minerals, then we do not have such programs POCKET.
                1. Cosm22
                  Cosm22 2 February 2021 16: 08
                  +3
                  I could answer a lot ...
                  But I'm afraid the comment will be too long.
                  I agree with one thing - I can't afford it (although someone can afford ocean-class yachts, personal aircraft of the Boeing-7XX series and higher, garages with a personal fleet of dozens of Merci-Bentley-Ferrari, money for palaces is in Russia without problems).
                  But if I can't afford it, then maybe it makes sense to use more rationally that remainder of the space budget after its sequestration? After all, this is exactly what I am talking about in every comment!
                  That RK has no vision of the future. There is no development strategy, there is no single concept even for the architecture of the spacecraft and the RN. Some annual shuffling from side to side, an annual change of priorities ... We do this, we don’t do it ... In a couple of months: no, we do it, we don’t do it ...
                  Take a look at the epics with the development of the heavy-lift rocket. Or QC. After all, here, apart from Shvonder's words, after his telephone conversation, nothing else comes to mind.
                  1. Guru
                    Guru 2 February 2021 16: 59
                    +1
                    Cosm22 (Vladimir)
                    We understood each other. hi
    3. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 2 February 2021 11: 21
      -1
      Quote: Guru
      Maybe it's enough to chase already? Let China chase

      Where is he chasing? The development of minerals on the moon in the near future is tantamount to mining gold from the earth's core.
      "From calls Russia and China»: The Pentagon will provide protection for mining on the moon

      Many thanks to the "almighty Pentagon" for not dumping Russia at all ...
      I read the posts, addressed messages to Mr. Rogozin, and with bitterness I understand that a country that is successfully mastering space has been “safely destroyed” for the sake of a country where experts have already forgotten how to build and can only use budget funds.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 2 February 2021 10: 29
    +9
    Yes, it's just done, like on the Klondike. He flew in, landed, staked out the territory, opened a mine, mine lunar gold.
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 2 February 2021 10: 33
      +1
      I think you need to fly to the moon first smile well, I think that we need to start designing a lunar bulldozer, I think it will come in handy smile
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 2 February 2021 10: 40
        -1
        Quote: Pessimist22
        I think you need to fly to the moon first

        And then take something from there to the Earth
      2. Guru
        Guru 2 February 2021 10: 47
        +1
        I think that first you need to fly to the Moon smile well, I think that you need to start designing a lunar bulldozer, I think it will come in handy smile
        Why design, it exists and has been for a long time
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 2 February 2021 11: 11
          +4
          The moon rover still stands there. The NASA probe took a picture of him, and his entire route (tracks of caterpillars)
          clearly visible. This is definitely the territory of Russia.
          1. pmkemcity
            pmkemcity 2 February 2021 12: 11
            +4
            Quote: voyaka uh
            This is definitely the territory of Russia.

            Actually, Nosov wrote about Dunno on the Moon back in 1964 - they stole our rocket and the moonstone.
          2. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 2 February 2021 13: 58
            +4
            This is definitely the territory of Russia.
            Lunokhod 2 belongs to a private owner - Richard Garriott bought it at Sothebys for $ 68500. Now says that the moon is all his laughing
      3. NDR-791
        NDR-791 2 February 2021 10: 53
        +3
        well, I think that we need to start designing a lunar bulldozer, I think it will come in handy
        laughing To demolish illegal settlements in the Ha sector ... Seas of rain?
      4. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 2 February 2021 11: 40
        +1
        Quote: Pessimist22
        well, I think that we need to start designing a lunar bulldozer, I think it will come in handy

        Why do you need a bulldozer? Gaster with a shovel is enough.
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 2 February 2021 10: 35
      +2
      Actually, then they divided / developed OWN TERRITORY, legal. It's official.
  • Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 2 February 2021 10: 29
    0
    The Pentagon will provide protection for mining on the moon

    It looks like the Pentagon is pinning no less than Sumeria
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 2 February 2021 10: 35
      +1
      The Pentagon has its own Wishlist ... very extensive.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 2 February 2021 10: 39
        -2
        Want is not harmful. And sometimes it is very harmful
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 2 February 2021 10: 44
          +2
          We must try to do so that it would be HARMFUL!
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 2 February 2021 11: 46
          0
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Want is not harmful. And sometimes it is very harmful

    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 2 February 2021 11: 42
      +1
      Quote: Lipchanin
      It looks like the Pentagon is pinning no less than Sumeria

      Sumeria pins because the Pentagon is setting an example for them.
  • Ka-52
    Ka-52 2 February 2021 10: 31
    0
    According to him, Ukraine will jointly with the United States explore the Moon, Mars and asteroids

    over the past 30 years, Ukraine has learned to "master" only budget funds. Taking into account the experience of building the Western Wall on the border with Russia, this space project will turn into an entertaining television series lol
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 2 February 2021 10: 41
      -1
      Quote: Ka-52
      Ukraine has learned to "master" only budget funds

      And not only budget ones, all of which only go there
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 2 February 2021 11: 51
        0
        Quote: Lipchanin
        And not only budget ones, all of which only go there
        And that too ...
    2. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 2 February 2021 10: 52
      0
      Quote: Ka-52
      And taking into account the experience of the construction of the "Wailing Wall" on the border with Russia, this space project will turn into an entertaining television series

      Ukraine, together with the United States, will not explore the Moon, but supply its guest workers to work in American mines on the Moon! And that's all the Americans will allow ANY foreigners on "their" territory to do!
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 2 February 2021 11: 48
      -1
      Quote: Ka-52
      over the past 30 years, Ukraine has learned to "master" only budget funds.

      And take loans, and then not give them back.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 2 February 2021 10: 32
    +2
    "From the challenges of Russia and China": the Pentagon will provide protection for mining on the moon

    This is where it all goes !!! Who did not have time, he DOES NOT STILL !!! The new "gold" rush has begun!
    1. cniza
      cniza 2 February 2021 11: 02
      +3
      Yeah, only "Colts" in the hands of others ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 2 February 2021 11: 34
        +1
        Colts are different, hands are the same.
        1. cniza
          cniza 2 February 2021 11: 39
          +3
          Quote: rocket757
          Colts are different, hands are the same.


          And brains work in the same direction ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 2 February 2021 11: 46
            +1
            There is wishlist without measure ... as it was before, nothing has changed.
            1. cniza
              cniza 2 February 2021 11: 52
              +3
              They are used to not watching the shores and continue in the same spirit ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 2 February 2021 13: 05
                +1
                While the babosiks give them, the Wishlist will only grow ... it can't be otherwise.
    2. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 2 February 2021 11: 08
      0
      he DIDN'T STILL !!! A new "gold" fever has begun! .... back to front ... 33 thousand tons of gold were banged on the Apollo project so that they could just trample on selenium ... and then to develop ... here along the way 33 thousand tons of gold in 10 must be multiplied ... green backs even print cars but not enough
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 2 February 2021 11: 33
        0
        Stripes instead of gold, for a long time, green candy wrappers are printing! while they have this business rolling.
        That's the case, the machine will endure everything.
  • Runoway
    Runoway 2 February 2021 10: 33
    +1
    As a variant of being drawn into the lunar race and weakening the already dead economy, so that there is not enough money for any earthly vanguards and Poseidons
    But in general, of course, we have grief in the space industry, we need global changes
    1. slipped
      slipped 2 February 2021 10: 40
      +2
      Quote: Runoway
      But in general, of course, we have grief in the space industry, we need global changes


      The ship and its layout in the photo belong to Kazakhstan.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 2 February 2021 16: 44
      0
      Rogozin is going to take them from there, restore them and put them in museums.
      1. Runoway
        Runoway 2 February 2021 18: 45
        -1
        Isn't this grief ?! Not so long ago, they were leaders and pioneers, and now ........ the third place in launches, and in general we are surviving the maximum from the Soviet legacy, modernizing to the limit, it will come soon, and then there are no prospects, and not only Rogozin to blame
        1. slipped
          slipped 2 February 2021 21: 28
          -2
          Quote: Runoway
          Isn't this grief ?! Not so long ago they were leaders and pioneers, and now ........


          And now the routine work on the exploration of outer space in favor of economic activity has begun.

          Quote: Runoway
          third place in launches,


          Are we having competitions? laughing The main space constellations in Russia have been withdrawn in full. The active life of spacecraft in them has been increased. Their planned re-equipment with new spacecraft is in progress:





          When creating new groupings of the "Sphere" project, the number of launches will increase.

          Quote: Runoway
          and in general we are making the most of the Soviet legacy, modernizing to the limit


          We extract lol You don't have to carry the blizzard.

          Quote: Runoway
          soon it will come, and then no prospects, and not only Rogozin is to blame


          We have a new station and flights to the Moon in the future.
      2. slipped
        slipped 3 February 2021 04: 48
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        Rogozin is going to take them from there, restore them and put them in museums.


        Spacecraft "Buran 1.02" and PM "OK-MT 0.07" are on the balance of the Kazakh JSC "RSC Baikonur".

        Owners want big bucks for a return -

        "We have spent lot resources so that our space enterprise and these rockets remain intact, "said the general director of the private rocket and space company Baikonur and a well-known Kazakhstani businessman and public figure Dauren Musa (heads the Kazakhstan Invest & Trade Group), citing the fact that the ships do not belong to him, but to the AO. laughing
  • Alien From
    Alien From 2 February 2021 10: 34
    -2
    First let them fly there ...
  • venik
    venik 2 February 2021 10: 35
    +2
    ".... The Pentagon will in the future organize and ensure the protection of American lunar bases, as well as mining on the moon. ....."
    =========
    I didn't understand that today 1 April? belay request
  • Dimonst
    Dimonst 2 February 2021 10: 35
    -2
    Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI - Strategic Defense Initiative), also known as Star Wars Double 2. Who will lead? In this case, due to incomprehensible resources ... Well, except for Rogozin, of course laughing
    1. sniperino
      sniperino 2 February 2021 11: 06
      -2
      Quote: DimonSt
      In this case, due to incomprehensible resources
      For understanding, you can use search engines.
      found reserves of iron, titanium, aluminum, magnesium, sulfur, potassium and sodium. Deposits of such a rare substance for the Earth as the isotope helium-3 were found in the surface soil
      1. Maikcg
        Maikcg 2 February 2021 13: 31
        0
        The first link to which your quote led
        Lunar base Helium -1 - MAOU kindergarten №210 "Ladushki" of the city district of Togliatti.
        There, children from Lego collected the base.
        It is clear that they also quoted the text from another place, but it's still funny. This is just the approximate level when talking about minerals on the moon.
        1. sniperino
          sniperino 2 February 2021 13: 48
          -2
          Quote: MaikCG
          Lunar base Helium -1 - MAOU kindergarten №210 "Ladushki" ... This is just an approximate level when talking about minerals on the moon.
          Maybe this is the approximate level of your sources and argumentation? Change the search engine, you have to grow somehow ...
      2. Dimonst
        Dimonst 2 February 2021 14: 32
        0
        The question is not what is proven and discovered there. The question is about logistics and its cost. Overall.
        1. sniperino
          sniperino 2 February 2021 14: 39
          -1
          Quote: DimonSt
          The question is in logistics and its cost
          We would have decided right away, the resources are incomprehensible, the level "when they talk for minerals", or the cost of logistics, then they wrote ...
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 2 February 2021 16: 47
      +2
      On the Moon, the entire periodic table is available in huge volumes, since there, unlike the Earth, all elements in the form of iron meteorites of asteroid fragments are on the surface due to the absence of soil erosion and the attraction of the core.
  • yustas4l
    yustas4l 2 February 2021 10: 39
    0
    The Pentagon will organize and ensure the protection of American lunar bases in the future, as well as mining on the moon

  • Glory1974
    Glory1974 2 February 2021 10: 40
    0
    Earlier, the United States said that Russia is lagging behind the United States and China in the "lunar race", and the Russian lunar station "Luna-25" planned for launch is already outdated.

    They did not take into account that they were 50 years behind themselves. Or maybe they didn't fly at all. request
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 2 February 2021 11: 32
      -1
      They now have two new superheavy fit to send humans to the moon for testing. One on the proven technologies of the Shuttle, the other is innovative for the whole bagel.
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 2 February 2021 10: 41
    +1
    in November 2020, Ukraine signed an agreement with the US National Aerospace Agency (NASA). According to him, Ukraine will jointly with the United States develop the Moon, Mars and asteroids, extracting minerals from them.
    Laughed hard laughing
  • Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 2 February 2021 10: 42
    -1
    Still, the Yankees do not really fly even to a low reference orbit, but here they can extract resources on the Moon. Why not immediately on the planets of Alpha Centauri? The chances are the same)))
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 2 February 2021 11: 32
      0
      Last year, the United States made 37 launches into space, and Russia 15
  • Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 2 February 2021 10: 43
    0
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    Laughed hard

    Ne is "strong", but greasy laughing
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 February 2021 10: 43
    +1
    The Pentagon will provide protection for mining on the moon
    It will be necessary to look through a telescope, maybe the New Pentagon has already appeared on the moon. Today they announced the protection of fossils on the Moon, tomorrow on Mars, and the day after tomorrow it is scary to think - is not it time for us (USA) to swing at our The universe.
  • Dimy4
    Dimy4 2 February 2021 10: 44
    0
    The Pentagon will organize and provide protection for American lunar bases in the future

    Jedi with lightsabers will be trained.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 2 February 2021 10: 49
    +1
    So you need to fly to the moon, and then threaten everyone! Question: Again the negros will dig the lunar soil, BLM will help them! good
    1. Maikcg
      Maikcg 2 February 2021 13: 25
      0
      No, BLM will be busy with another
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 2 February 2021 15: 00
        0
        As in that song: We will destroy the whole world to the core, whoever was no one, he will become everything! 20 dollar bill to help them!
  • Mykhalych
    Mykhalych 2 February 2021 10: 53
    +1
    We have no trace of such trifles as the Moon ...
  • Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 2 February 2021 10: 55
    0
    Well, they did not hesitate to tell their vision - ours is everything we have reached. Why - because we can afford it.
    Whoever fell behind is a loser.
    If you want to object - reinforce it.

    Nothing new, the right of the strong has not gone anywhere.
  • slipped
    slipped 2 February 2021 10: 56
    +4
    The Chinese Lunokhod "Hare-2" is slowly creeping on the moon and taking pictures. Already drove 628 meters from them.



    Compared to the "Lunokhod" of course, nothing, but entertaining.
  • Boromir1941
    Boromir1941 2 February 2021 11: 06
    +1
    superintendent eyes, grabbing hands
  • HAM
    HAM 2 February 2021 11: 14
    -1
    "..... Ukraine will jointly with the United States explore the Moon, Mars and asteroids, extracting minerals from them ........"

    Who is the Moon and Mars, and who will have enough asteroids laughing .......... nothing new in this world ....
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 2 February 2021 11: 21
    +8
    Anecdote from forty years ago:
    The American base on the moon reports:
    - The Russians have landed on the moon!
    - Keep watching.
    - The Russians paint the moon red!
    - Keep watching.
    - The Russians painted the entire moon red!
    -- Well! Take white paint and write "Coca-Cola".
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 2 February 2021 15: 06
      +1
      Leonid Ilyich wakes up at night, and here is such an inscription, to correct the disorder. The next night, Ilyich wakes up Reading. Under the Coca Cola sign, the USSR Ministry of Defense warns that the use of Coca Cola is dangerous for your health! Apparently you left a long time ago, since you don't know the continuation of the anecdote.
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 2 February 2021 16: 22
        +4
        That's for sure. For that, on the occasion of 70 hectares on the moon acquired. In a good location, not far from the North Pole. The temperature at a depth of 1 meter is only minus 35 Celsius. I have been to the worst places on Earth. Now we are solving the issues of construction, air and water. So, you will be in our area - you are welcome. We will accept it as family. hi
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 2 February 2021 16: 32
          +1
          Only if you gasify the site with Gazprom do not contact, bury the gas tank to Novotek for LNG. Anyway, they will be cheaper than the Americans, even in Yamal it does not get warm! hi
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 2 February 2021 18: 09
            +2
            Quote: tralflot1832
            Only if you gasify the site with Gazprom do not contact, bury the gas tank to Novotek for LNG. Anyway, they will be cheaper than the Americans, even in Yamal it does not get warm! hi

            Thanks! I will take note.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 2 February 2021 11: 37
    0
    On the Moon, they will protect fossils, from whom? Another curve otmaz in the American way, how to put weapons into space .......
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 2 February 2021 11: 52
    -1
    Ukraine apparently will provide escort leisure for lunar drillers from Texas.)))
  • iouris
    iouris 2 February 2021 11: 52
    -1
    Rogozin said - Rogozin will provide.
  • Dikson
    Dikson 2 February 2021 12: 16
    +2
    And, in fact, what and who can oppose them with something? if they want to, they will impose sanctions ... They have enough economic leverage .. Any international treaty at the present time is just a piece of paper that can easily be ignored by everyone with a stronger gut .. Does the muddy story with Phobos-primer resemble anything? You can do nasty things in any way ..
    1. Quadro
      Quadro 2 February 2021 13: 22
      -1
      It's just that on the earth's globe, they begin to fade away and rush from one rhetoric to another, and all recent attempts to completely plunder the country are not very successful. So the fairy tales about mining on the moon begin, but the cost of their production will be cosmic and even amers it will be unprofitable, an attempt is visible to breed for the race like with soybeans.
    2. iouris
      iouris 2 February 2021 21: 29
      0
      Quote: Dikson
      And, in fact, what and who can oppose them with something? they want to be sanctioned ...

      The struggle for sovereignty must be intensified even more.
  • anjey
    anjey 2 February 2021 12: 17
    -2
    The Pentagon will organize and ensure the protection of American lunar bases in the future, as well as mining on the moon. The Wall Street Journal reported.
    Another, fabulously fantastic hoax from the Yankees.
    In the World (on Earth), many positions are already losing ground, and here again empty American nonsense about the Moon laughing laughing laughing
  • Maikcg
    Maikcg 2 February 2021 13: 19
    -1
    Documentary footage of how everything will be
  • ALEX_SHTURMAN
    ALEX_SHTURMAN 2 February 2021 14: 15
    +2
    The militarization of the Cosmos and the capture of the Moon is outrageous, undoubtedly and unacceptable! But in order to resist this, you need to attend to your Space Program! And so you can be indignant, of course, but if we do not have our own Spaceships capable of flying to the Moon and landing there, no one will hear our statements ...
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 2 February 2021 16: 58
      +1
      Who is the first to start there and the pie. Soon they will complete their SLS and launch Orion with a transport module to the Moon, and there they will begin to build an orbital station - and with the help of the same SLS Falcon Heyvey and Starship, when they are brought up to standard, they can launch dozens of interceptor combat satellites into the Moon's orbit and announce to the whole world that The moon is now the territory of the United States and now everyone who wants to sit there will have to ask permission - who can do anything against it, and no one and nothing. And Russia with its superheavy will be poking around right up to 2035 - and how we are going to fly to the Moon, the USA will tell us we will not give you permission to land on the moon.
    2. slipped
      slipped 2 February 2021 21: 56
      +2
      Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN
      but if we do not have our own Spaceships capable of flying to the Moon and landing there, no one will hear our statements ...


      Nowadays, no one has a spacecraft capable of flying to the moon. And, what is, is still at the stage of assembly or ground tests and launching mock-ups into space for testing individual elements:

      PTC "Orion" (USA) - the spacecraft is assembled, tests are completed, including in December 2014, a mock-up of the VA was launched into space to work out the heat-protective coating upon return, the transfer of the flight product for storage at NASA is being prepared - until the main carrier SLS is ready ... The launch date is unknown, perhaps it will be 2022.

      PTK "Noname" (China) - the mock-up of the spacecraft made a space flight to test its systems in 2020, the design aerodynamic and heat-shielding properties of the VA were confirmed. The timing of the launch of a full-fledged flight product is unknown.

      PTK "Orel" (Russia) - a static mock-up of the ship for ground tests has been assembled. An unmanned test launch of the aircraft is scheduled for December 2023, upon the readiness of the A1 launch complex at the Vostochny cosmodrome.

      Regarding militarization, however, I should note that the only recoilless weapon for outer space was developed in our country and was successfully fired in space.
  • Jelezyakov
    Jelezyakov 2 February 2021 15: 47
    0
    The Americans seem to have staked out places for burial on the Moon, I read something like that a long time ago.
  • faterdom
    faterdom 2 February 2021 16: 51
    0
    The Pentagon will organize and ensure the protection of American lunar bases in the future, as well as mining on the moon.

    President Biden, State Department Klimkin (or Blinkin, I confuse all the time), and the Pentagon, CIA, NSA, FBI, and, of course, Bruce Willis and Arnold Schwarzenegger.
    And Ukraine, Poland and Lithuania - the staunch allies of the United States on the Moon - will also greatly help!
    The Japanese in the north of the moon will be allocated 4 craters, where they will not let the Russians!
  • Maks winter
    Maks winter 2 February 2021 17: 52
    -2
    fabulous country, this USA ... laughing
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 2 February 2021 17: 56
    -1
    laughing There are a couple of such stoned dreamers all over the planet. Not more. Everything is in the mriyas.
  • Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 2 February 2021 18: 07
    -1
    here is amer their leadership noodles, we all the same for me, we just have a lot of people left with Soviet education and whose palaces we all know
  • Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 2 February 2021 19: 44
    0
    The Australian brand UGG is no longer owned by Australia because the American recently patented the UGG brand and is demanding kickbacks from the Australian companies that make the shoe. He has already sued many Australians and wins everywhere.
    Lesson, everything must be patented and registered as quickly as possible.
    https://uggaustraliaclassic.com.au/
  • Reader 2013
    Reader 2013 2 February 2021 22: 22
    +1
    Something, few downs gathered that they didn't fly anywhere,
  • slipped
    slipped 3 February 2021 02: 32
    +1
    Meanwhile, the TASS report:

    On Tuesday, February 2, at 23:45 Moscow time, a combat crew of the Space Forces of the Aerospace Forces launched a Soyuz-4b carrier rocket from launcher No. 43 of site No. 2.1 of the State Test Cosmodrome of the RF Ministry of Defense (Plesetsk cosmodrome) in the Arkhangelsk Region with a spacecraft in the interests of the Russian Ministry of Defense.

    The spacecraft was launched into the target orbit at the estimated time and taken over for control of ground assets of the space forces of the Aerospace Forces.

    A stable telemetric communication has been established and maintained with the spacecraft of the Russian Ministry of Defense; its onboard systems are functioning normally.
  • Nitarius
    Nitarius 3 February 2021 05: 25
    0
    and the US TOAD from greed will not crush)? they cannot be here ... behave like a human being .. they were drawn into space))
  • Slipper 2
    Slipper 2 3 February 2021 08: 15
    0
    Scene two, myrikanian comedy lol
  • zwlad
    zwlad 3 February 2021 08: 34
    0
    We are being drawn into another race. Only if earlier it was an arms race and a fight against SDI, now it is a race for the moon. Extraction of minerals on the Moon and other objects will not be profitable not only in the short term but also in the distant future, especially with the improvement of mining and processing technologies on Earth. In our country, there are so many useful things buried in the depths that it will calmly last for 500 years. And then you can dig up landfills and extract anything from there. There would be a desire.
    However, space technologies still need to be developed. Only not chasing the Americans, but at their own pace and in their directions.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 3 February 2021 14: 18
    0
    The striped ones should better invite lunatics or the Martians for their defense. And what, Musk will quickly drive them to them and bring them, he just spit it. Banderlogs and Poles with Tribals, call on the striped ones to protect them, so the striped ones can also invite aliens.
  • Sibguest
    Sibguest 3 February 2021 14: 45
    0
    Bandos in star-striped underpants continue to delight with the next pearls making our life more and more fun.
  • RealPilot
    RealPilot 4 February 2021 14: 38
    0
    Quote: pmkemcity
    Quote: voyaka uh
    This is definitely the territory of Russia.

    Actually, Nosov wrote about Dunno on the Moon back in 1964 - they stole our rocket and the moonstone.

    And they took me for this comment, and MINUSED !!!
    I completely agree with you, colleague ...
  • tivivlat
    tivivlat 6 February 2021 14: 58
    0
    where were filmed - "Moon" photos, then let them post