Promising anti-tank complex "Hermes" will receive a new version

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Promising anti-tank complex "Hermes" will receive a new version

The promising Hermes anti-tank complex may receive a new version with a faster and more powerful missile. It is reported by RIA News with reference to the industrial director of the Rostec weapons complex Bekkhan Ozdoev.

Rostec plans to begin development work to create a new Hermes 2.0 strike complex. The development will be carried out on the basis of the promising Hermes complex, which is currently undergoing demonstration tests for the Ministry of Defense.



This complex has great potential for further improvement. In this regard, experimental design work is planned, which provides for an increase in the combat power of the missile by 2-2,5 times and an increase in its flight speed. This will be a version of the Hermes 2.0 complex

- said Ozdoev.

The basic version of the promising anti-tank complex "Hermes" was presented during the military-technical forum "Army-2020".

"Hermes" has a compact combat module with launchers for six missiles and can fire salvo fire at six targets at a distance of up to 100 km. Each missile has a high-explosive fragmentation warhead, contains twenty-eight kilograms in TNT equivalent and develops a maximum speed of up to 1300 m / s. The complex can be used against both armored vehicles and stationary fortifications, warehouses, communication centers, etc.

A special advantage of the new complex is that it can be installed on any platform, and the fire-and-forget system allows you to aim missiles at a target using drones or ships.
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    1. +5
      2 February 2021 09: 31
      and the system "fire and forget" allows you to direct missiles to the target using drones or ships

      How's that?
      1. +4
        2 February 2021 09: 47
        At the initial stage of the flight, it is corrected by the satellite; in the final segment of the flight, homing is switched on.
        1. +4
          2 February 2021 10: 44
          Quote: newbie
          At the initial stage of the flight, it is corrected by the satellite; in the final segment of the flight, homing is switched on.

          ========
          As I understand it, at the final stage, either drones or spotter fighters are used to "illuminate" the target with a laser ...
          1. +2
            2 February 2021 11: 23
            Then this is not a business
            1. +5
              2 February 2021 11: 26
              Quote: Zaurbek
              Then this is not a business

              ========
              Well, it's like homing ... but not "fire and forget", because at the final stage of the flight, the ammunition requires target illumination. Something like Krasnopol!
              1. 0
                2 February 2021 12: 42
                Quote: venik
                Quote: Zaurbek
                Then this is not a business

                ========
                Well, it's like homing ... but not "fire and forget", because at the final stage of the flight, the ammunition requires target illumination. Something like Krasnopol!

                hi
                The control and guidance system is a combined missile control system - inertial or radio command (when firing at a distance of up to 100 km) at the march stage and the seeker at the final stage of the trajectory. The principle of "fire and forget" has been implemented. At the same time, it is possible to hit two targets when using missiles with semi-active laser seeker or up to 12 missiles in a salvo when using other types of seeker. With radio command guidance on the marching stage, the complex includes a radar and a compand transmission station.

                Option GSN Option ATGM
                Passive thermal imaging "Hermes", "Hermes-A"
                Combined semi-active laser seeker + infrared seeker "Germes", "Germes-A", "Germes-K"
                Active radar seeker "Germes"

                The control system ATGM "Hermes-S" and "Hermes-A" / "Klevok-A" ensures the destruction of ground armored targets from above to the central part. This also ensures the overcoming of air defense and missile defense systems. It is possible to use external means of target designation with a laser designator - a mobile portable complex of automated fire control means "Malachite", UAVs, etc.
                Area of ​​EPR of the target - from 0.01 sq.m


                Launcher ATGM "Hermes-A" / "Klevok-A"
                TTX missiles of the complex:
                "Hermes-A" / "Klevok-A"
                "Hermes" "Hermes-K" (20 km) "Hermes-K" (100 km)
                Length of container with rocket 3500 mm 3500 mm 3500 mm 3500 mm
                March step length 1500 mm 1500 mm 1500 mm 1500 mm
                Wingspan 240 mm 240 mm 240 mm 240 mm
                Starting step diameter 170 mm 210 mm 170 mm 210 mm
                Marching step diameter 130 mm 130 mm 130 mm 130 mm
                Rocket weight in container 107 / 110 kg 130 kg 107 / 110 kg 130 kg
                Rocket launch weight 90 kg 90 kg
                Warhead weight - up to 40 kg (1996 data)
                - 27,5 kg (RP)
                - 28 kg - 28-30 kg - 28-30 kg
                Mass of explosives - 12,5 kg (OF)

                Range - 10-12 km (1996 data)
                - 17 km (for ground targets)
                - 15 km (for air targets)
                - 20 km (for sea targets) - up to 100 km - up to 20 km - up to 100 km
                Rocket speed maximum
                - up to 800 m / s (1996 data)
                - 1000 m/s - 1300 m/s - 1000 m/s - 1300 m/s
                Average flight speed at a distance of 40 km - 500 m/s - 500 m/s
                Armor penetration behind dynamic protection conditional 1000 mm 1000 mm 1000 mm 1000 mm
                The complex equipment includes:
                - stabilized day-night optoelectronic system with television and thermal imaging channels (information exchange standard MIL STD 1553);
                - an associated computer system with a two-channel laser designator and automatic target tracking;
                - additional equipment - multifunctional color liquid crystal display and control panel, display and documentation facilities.
                http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-49.html hi
            2. +4
              2 February 2021 12: 18
              And how do you lock the target at a distance of 100 km. ground PU, taking into account position, relief, etc.?
              1. 0
                2 February 2021 12: 34
                Only with the power of intelligence
              2. +3
                2 February 2021 12: 47
                Quote: newbie
                And how do you lock the target at a distance of 100 km. ground PU, taking into account position, relief, etc.?

                ========
                Do you still not understand? The target is detected by reconnaissance (ground, air, space finally), and spotting fighters or UAVs carry out the illumination ... Of course, you can also "highlight" from the plane, but it makes no sense - it's easier to use onboard weapons!
                If you still do not understand - think, but HOW do they highlight targets for Krasnopol, for example? After all, he flies up to 25 kilometers!
                1. +2
                  2 February 2021 12: 57
                  I understand that. I asked this question as an addition to my previous comment. I was responding to a colleague on target acquisition. Naturally, if the target is at a distance of about 100 km., The target is detected by reconnaissance_ from space to ground, a rocket is launched, which is corrected both from the satellite and through its communication, then the target is captured and accompanied by its own seeker.
                  1. +2
                    2 February 2021 13: 03
                    Quote: newbie
                    a rocket is launched, which is corrected both from the satellite and through its communication

                    ========
                    Well, actually, rather, it "corrects itself" on the basis of GLONASS signals or other satellite navigation systems. Well, at the final stage - as in the "Sosna" or "Krasnopol" - a laser semi-active seeker, correcting flight at the finish line and ensuring hitting a point target (even a moving one) with a minimum CEP.
                    As a matter of fact, it seems that "Hermes" is nothing else, "grown up" "Pine" .... request
                    drinks
                    1. 0
                      2 February 2021 18: 48
                      Quote: venik
                      Well, at the final stage - like "Pine" or "Krasnopolya" - semi-active laser seeker
                      Pine has no GOS at all
                      1. 0
                        2 February 2021 19: 06
                        Quote: Mimoprohodil
                        Pine has no GOS at all

                        ========
                        Sorry! "Scraped" did not mean "Pine" and "Krasnopol", but "Kitolov" and "Krasnopol" .... fool request
                    2. -1
                      3 February 2021 19: 46
                      Quote: venik
                      it seems that "Hermes" is nothing else, "grown" "Pine"

                      Nothing like this ! From the word "wabche"!
              3. 0
                3 February 2021 15: 19
                If integrated into Helicopters, then with the help of radar. Probably so.
            3. 0
              3 February 2021 15: 00
              Then this is not a business
              ========
              Well, it's like homing ... but not "fire and forget", because at the final stage of the flight, the ammunition requires target illumination. Something like Krasnopol!

              I'll try to explain it simply.
              Laser homing is also homing, as well as active / passive radio guidance or passive infrared guidance. Rocket based on data received from homing heads (GOS), independently generates control signals for its control. Missiles without homing are either unguided or command, when external commands are sent to the missile to correct its flight.
          2. -1
            2 February 2021 12: 12
            At the final_ of the GOS. Highlight and adjust the long-range launcher at 100 km. at the initial stage of the flight.
        2. 0
          2 February 2021 10: 55
          Quote: newbie
          At the initial stage of the flight, it is corrected by the satellite,

          what is it? Glonass or something (so it only works for stationary targets), if this were the case, then all the aug karachun would come.
          1. 0
            2 February 2021 12: 15
            It is corrected both by the satellite directly and by satellite communication, i.e. via satellite. Also, on the final segment of the flight, homing, target acquisition and tracking are included. So there are moving targets as well.
      2. +8
        2 February 2021 10: 42
        and the system "fire and forget" allows you to direct missiles to the target using drones or ships

        How's that?

        This original understanding of the principle "fire and forget" in the Tula JSC "Instrument Design Bureau". In their opinion, "Kornet" has implemented this principle.
        Marketing is
        1. +2
          2 February 2021 11: 04
          The cornet is aimed along a 1.5 m diameter laser corridor,
          in which the rocket flies (with a characteristic yaw to the right to the left, up and down).
          It is necessary to aim at the target until the very moment of hitting.
          This requires experienced, cold-blooded operators.
          1. +2
            2 February 2021 11: 24
            The automatic tracking machine is already in use ... and you can maneuver left and right by some degree
          2. +2
            2 February 2021 13: 18
            Quote: voyaka uh
            The cornet is aimed along a 1.5 m diameter laser corridor,
            in which the rocket flies (with a characteristic yaw to the right to the left, up and down).

            ========
            Actually, as far as I know, "Cornet" flies along a characteristic tapering spiral......
            --------
            Quote: voyaka uh
            It is necessary to aim at the target until the very moment of hitting.
            This requires experienced, cold-blooded operators.

            =======
            For this purpose, the "Cornet" has automatic target tracking. The fighter took aim, the assault rifle captures the target and leads it after the "start" command until the moment of hit (or miss, although they are rare for the "Cornet").
          3. +1
            2 February 2021 23: 40
            Quote: voyaka uh
            This requires experienced, cold-blooded operators.

            Hezbollah has such, for example. Yes wink
            1. 0
              3 February 2021 07: 37
              The presence of KAZ negates ATGMs and RPGs.
              1. 0
                3 February 2021 08: 16
                Does not reduce. It only reduces efficiency.
                1. 0
                  3 February 2021 14: 50
                  Does not reduce. It only reduces efficiency.

                  To zero? While the KAZ is working, the missiles will be intercepted.
                  1. 0
                    3 February 2021 16: 39
                    There are nuances.
                    1. 0
                      3 February 2021 16: 53
                      Examples? The Israeli experience (the largest) speaks FOR the use of KAZ.
                      1. 0
                        4 February 2021 09: 35
                        Of course, with KAZ it is better than without. But in real combat conditions, 100% protection still cannot be achieved, and with the development of weapons, the effectiveness of the KAZ will continue to decline.
                        1. 0
                          4 February 2021 11: 43
                          KAZ will also be improved.
                          90 +% - an excellent result, because you can not be afraid of the same Cornet on board.
                          Someone got lucky and bought 1200+ sets request
        2. 0
          2 February 2021 13: 07
          Quote: Cympak
          This original understanding of the principle "fire and forget" in the Tula JSC "Instrument-making Design Bureau".

          ========
          This is the "original understanding" of the "fire and forget" principle - the author of the article, not the Tula KBP!
          --------
          Quote: Cympak
          In their opinion, Kornet has implemented this principle as well.

          =======
          When did this happen? The fact that guidance is carried out in automatic mode, i.e. the target after the shot is accompanied and illuminated by an assault rifle (not a person). - they really affirmed and assert. "But what they claim is that" Cornet "is homing (" shot and forgot ") - for the first time I hear from you!
          1. +1
            2 February 2021 14: 17
            But what they claim is that "Kornet" is homing ("shot and forgot") - for the first time I hear from you!

            Everything is so, but you look at youtube (haven't covered yet;) interviews from various exhibitions of KBP-Tula leaders, where they often attribute to their ATGM the "fire and forget" principle only on the grounds that they have a target tracking machine.
            And the practice of the war in Donbass has shown that it is important for an ATGM to have a remote control panel in order not to lose trained ATGMs from the return fire of mortars and snipers. The Ukrainians quickly made such a revision, but we are expecting something .... losses?
            1. +1
              2 February 2021 15: 56
              Quote: Cympak
              And the practice of the war in Donbass has shown that it is important for an ATGM to have a remote control panel in order not to lose trained ATGMs from the return fire of mortars and snipers.

              ========
              Well, as far as I know, the remote control on the "Cornet" is exactly provided, at least on the latest modifications .... And which ones were used in Donbass and Syria - alas! I do not know...... request
            2. 0
              3 February 2021 07: 39
              do we expect something .... losses?

              Probably not very concerned about the issue. And they believe that we have a lot of people ..
      3. +7
        2 February 2021 10: 57
        Actually, the principle of "fire and forget" says that when the seeker on a rocket captures
        target, the operator "releases" the missile, stops tracking the target.
        And it works on a different target with a different rocket.
        Target illumination can be laser from a drone.
        If the target is stationary, and the missiles have a Glonas or GPS receiver, then you can
        shoot immediately, having the coordinates of the target.
      4. +1
        2 February 2021 12: 20
        How's that?

        With the help of drones, I understand this by highlighting the target from him :) Here is such a special "shot and forgot"
        1. +1
          2 February 2021 12: 26
          In such a complex, different GOS are needed .... from "cheap" with GLONASS to "expensive" AGSN. And anti-radar.
          1. 0
            2 February 2021 12: 29
            They are claimed to be different. But which ones are needed and for which complex, this is already a slightly more serious question. With AGSN, it is not clear what kind of seeker it should be to fit into the dimensions of the complex and have time to capture the target at its speed.
            1. 0
              2 February 2021 12: 34
              Well, on the final trajectory the speed is not that great.
    2. +3
      2 February 2021 09: 37
      Wow ATGM! At a distance of 100 km ... Guided missile weapons of "short" range ... The GOS only works with illumination ... Well, when firing at such ranges ... Otherwise, it will probably be too expensive ...
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      2. -1
        2 February 2021 09: 48
        Probably all the same not 100, but 10.
        GOS only works with backlight ...
        Therefore, UAVs and ships, from them and highlight.
        And I also think that this particular one will not go into service, at best for sale. It's better to wait for version 2.0. Better yet, 3.0. If the manufacturer talks about modernization in six months
        1. +7
          2 February 2021 09: 52
          The same maximum speed is still 100 km. "Hermes" are many and different: "Hermes" - ground launchers, with the letter "A" air, strikes at 20 km; "K" is shipborne, "C" is stationary.
          1. +7
            2 February 2021 09: 57
            Especially climbed to look, yes. In a two-stage version, the range is 100. In the same as in the photo to the article - 20 km.
            1. 0
              2 February 2021 12: 26
              Especially climbed to look, yes. In a two-stage version, the range is 100. In the same as in the photo to the article - 20 km.

              Uh .. m .. And you, as from the photo, determine it there inside the TPK, how many stepped is it?
              In general, a lot has been written about this Hermes, a very long time ago and very confusingly. They either quote old marketing materials or confuse it with a promising recently tested long-range universal missile, about which little is known either.
        2. 0
          2 February 2021 10: 55
          Quote: NDR-791
          Probably all the same not 100, but 10.

          ========
          I think it's 100, not 10! (https://missilery.info/missile/hermes).
          ---------
          Quote: NDR-791
          And I also think that this particular one will not go into service, at best for sale. It's better to wait for version 2.0. Better yet, 3.0.

          =======
          And even better - 4.0, 5.0 or 6.0 ... Yes, you can to infinity wait!
          I think very soon, the Ministry of Defense will decide everything and find out! hi
        3. +3
          2 February 2021 10: 59
          Quote: NDR-791
          it is better to wait for version 2.0. Better yet, 3.0. If the manufacturer talks about modernization in six months

          This is a common practice, this is normal.
          One system is being prepared for production, the other for the testing stage, the third is being developed, and the technical requirements are being developed for the fourth.
          It’s not normal, it’s when something was pushed into production and climbed to sleep on the stove.
          1. 0
            2 February 2021 11: 31
            Quote: Captain Pushkin
            This is a common practice, this is normal.
            One system is being prepared for production, the other for the testing stage, the third is being developed, and the technical requirements are being developed for the fourth.

            Pomnitz, Grumman began developing a replacement for its Wildcat carrier-based fighter a year before production began. smile
      3. +3
        2 February 2021 10: 34
        Backlighting does not cost anything from a high-altitude UAV - cheap and reliable.
      4. 0
        2 February 2021 11: 26
        Theoretically, a rocket should fly into a given square and find a target in some sector: a tank, a ship, etc. (and) or the operator can adjust the point of impact.
    3. -4
      2 February 2021 09: 46
      at a distance of up to 100 km.

      Too much for such a rocket, this is not Tornado, maybe 10 km?
      1. +3
        2 February 2021 10: 23
        In some articles, this is generally an operational tactical complex not ATGM.
        1. +3
          2 February 2021 10: 51
          In terms of the warhead, it is rather true. ATGM usually does not have a high-explosive fragmentation warhead, but a cumulative (tandem) one. But 28 kg of TNT is apparently enough to destroy the tank (or disable it).
          But the warhead may eventually be replaced with a cumulative one and a b / h volumetric explosion.
          1. 0
            3 February 2021 08: 20
            Experts said that the Hermes had a high-explosive warhead. And that its power is enough to destroy a heavily armored target of the "tank" type. That is, cumulative is not needed in principle.
    4. -1
      2 February 2021 09: 51
      And who is our fabulous author? Is it possible to learn more about this device?
      1. +3
        2 February 2021 10: 20
        And what was the author's fabulous writing? I read it twice and did not understand where the tales are?
      2. -1
        2 February 2021 11: 00
        Quote: Ros 56
        And who is our fabulous author? Is it possible to learn more about this device?

        ==========
        One of the many links was above: https://missilery.info/missile/hermes
        You can also see:
        - http://bastion-karpenko.ru/hermes/;
        - https://rg.ru/2020/08/25/raketnyj-kompleks-germes-unichtozhit-tanki-na-rasstoianii-do-100-km.html;
        - https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4119348.html

        =====
        hi
      3. -4
        2 February 2021 12: 26
        And who is our fabulous author? Is it possible to learn more about this device?

        Did you just wake up? A year ago, they said about Hermes that it was the Javelin killer. Because it is cheaper and much longer and can be installed on any pickup.
        1. +4
          2 February 2021 12: 34
          A year ago, they said about Hermes that it was the Javelin killer, because it is cheaper and much longer-range and can be put on any pickup.

          What kind of killer is he if you have to put him on a pickup, and Javelin is a wearable weapon. They are in different niches in general. Their Javelin is conditionally our RPG .. with blackjack and shot-and-forget
          1. -7
            2 February 2021 12: 38
            What kind of killer is he if you have to put him on a pickup, and Javelin is a wearable weapon. They are in different niches in general. Their Javelin is conditionally our RPG .. with blackjack and shot-and-forget

            Pfff ... 3km for Javelin versus 100km for Hermes. When targeting from a drone, Javelin simply has no chance.
            1. +4
              2 February 2021 12: 40
              You still would compare with Iskander, or just with an intercontinental missile. Once again - Javelin he is in the RPG-7 niche, not even a cornet. Here with him and compare and "Pfykaite"
              1. -6
                2 February 2021 12: 48
                Once again - he is a Javelin in the RPG-7 niche, not even a cornet. Here with him and compare and "Pfykaite"

                Why is Javelin needed then? )))
                If Hermes is possible ahead of time, within a radius of 50 km, to destroy all enemy tanks, even before direct contact, like Javelins))).
                1. +1
                  2 February 2021 13: 09
                  Well, explain the obvious things or what?
                  Firstly, why is it within a radius of 50 and not 100?
                  Secondly, it is certainly possible to destroy it, it is indisputable, but before the destruction of these "all enemy tanks in the radius" it would be good to first somehow detect. How are you going to do this?
                  even before direct contact

                  No, this is not a call to express your fantasies on the topic. I just want to say that each weapon has its own tactical niche.
                  1. -3
                    2 February 2021 13: 21
                    it would be nice to find out somehow. How are you going to do this?

                    Orions for what? )))
                    No, this is not a call to express your fantasies on the topic. I just want to say that each weapon has its own tactical niche.

                    Well, yes, for example, I have an assault rifle with a firing range of 1 m, and you have an assault rifle with a firing range of only 000 m, but the whole thing takes place in an open field. Who will have the advantage? )))
                    Or will there be a tactical niche again? ))))
                    1. +1
                      2 February 2021 13: 33
                      then I absolutely do not understand why this Hermes is needed, we have "Ash", you know what their range?
                      1. -6
                        2 February 2021 13: 46
                        then I absolutely do not understand why this Hermes is needed, we have "Ash", you know what their range?

                        So Hermes is cheaper than Javelin)))
                        If "Ash trees" were cheaper than Hermes, then Hermes would be needed then nafik)))
                        1. -1
                          2 February 2021 16: 00
                          So Hermes is cheaper than Javelin)))

                          So it's not a fact. Especially if you count it according to some "purchasing power parity".
              2. 0
                2 February 2021 13: 33
                Rather Bassoon / Mestizo.
        2. 0
          2 February 2021 12: 35
          Apparently I was not there during the conversation. lol hi
          But, judging by today's later comments, people still have not come to a consensus. fellow
    5. +1
      2 February 2021 10: 16
      The promising Hermes anti-tank complex may receive a new version with a faster and more powerful missile.

      just a weapon, worse, more lethal.
    6. 0
      2 February 2021 10: 33
      and the system "fire and forget" allows you to direct missiles to the target using drones or ships.

      Did he understand what he said? (WITH)

      Usually, "fired and forgot" means the presence of a self-sufficient seeker on the rocket that does not need anyone's help.
      And "Hermes", as far as I remember, just has a semi-active guidance system, which does not work without target illumination by third-party means.
      According to some reports, in general, command guidance along the laser beam, which is already "shot and forgotten"
      1. +2
        2 February 2021 10: 45
        And "Hermes", as far as I remember, just has a semi-active guidance system, which does not work without target illumination by third-party means.

        Read better than no beam guidance.
        Exit to the target area by stationary targets, the inertial system or by satellites with the assignment of coordinates.
        By mobile radio command.
        At the final section of the GOS.
        1. -1
          2 February 2021 11: 16
          Quote: bk316
          At the final section of the GOS.

          Ага.
          Only which one?
          Laser.
          Semi-active.
          Requiring the help of a drone, ship or suicide infantryman
          1. 0
            2 February 2021 12: 29
            Ага.
            Only which one?
            Laser.
            Semi-active.
            Requiring the help of a drone, ship or suicide infantryman

            Do you want to challenge the RF Ministry of Defense? )))
            You were told - "shot and forgot." The whole difficulty lies in the initial target designation.
            1. 0
              2 February 2021 12: 36
              Do you want to challenge the RF Ministry of Defense? )))

              This was reported by RIA Novosti with reference to Bekkhan Ozdoev, industrial director of the Rostec weapons complex.

              It would seem, what does the RF Ministry of Defense have to do with it?
              1. 0
                2 February 2021 12: 41
                It would seem, what does the RF Ministry of Defense have to do with it?

                What is Rostec? ))))
                1. +2
                  2 February 2021 12: 42
                  What is Rostec? ))))

                  Well, how would Google help you, but there is no Rostec and MO are different organizations.
                  1. -3
                    2 February 2021 12: 55
                    Well, how would Google help you, but there is no Rostec and MO are different organizations.

                    If Rostec were a private office, I would not say anything, but Rostec is one of the pillars of the Ministry of Defense on which it relies.
                    1. +2
                      2 February 2021 13: 05
                      Well, you still on Rogozin's "pearls" would have said "you want to argue with the RF Ministry of Defense." Rostec is Rostec, MO is MO. Some kind of director of Rostec is a civilian who is currently marketing a new product, and can carry anything at all, this is not even mentioning that he can and not everything, in principle, he can say out loud to the general public.
            2. -1
              2 February 2021 14: 16
              Quote: lucul
              Do you want to challenge the RF Ministry of Defense? ))) "

              No, I want to challenge the author of this text.
              Quote: lucul

              They told you - "shot and forgot"

              And they added about the help of some ships and demons.
              So I ask, can you forget, or do you need help anyway?
          2. 0
            2 February 2021 13: 04
            Laser.
            Semi-active.

            Do you have a proof or just really want to have suicide infantrymen?
            In addition to what is stated about the principle of "let it out and forget", I proceed from the fact that the complex is going to be used in coastal batteries.
            And there somehow the semi-active did not take root - the suicide infantrymen do not swim well. belay
          3. +2
            2 February 2021 13: 43
            The fact of the matter is that the rocket is large enough. A lot of things can be accommodated there. Even with the Russian element base. The question is about MO's desire and order. Plus, new GOS can be gradually developed in the process of exploitation.
    7. 0
      2 February 2021 10: 47
      Modernization can be done more often than once every six months, if during this time something happens in the field of production of element base and materials.
      For example, phones are updated 2-3 times a year.
      Suddenly, the process also started.
      Although, due to the fact that our "newest" aircraft have been produced for more than 12 years and no signs of modernization are visible (on the contrary, the previous ones are being updated to catch up with them), somehow such progress is hard to believe.
    8. 0
      2 February 2021 10: 51
      Each missile has a high-explosive fragmentation warhead, contains twenty-eight kilograms in TNT equivalent and develops a maximum speed of up to 1300 m / s.

      And the meaning of the PF warhead is to use against armored vehicles, especially the heavy type of tanks, as for me it's easier to use MLRS in areas ...
      1. +1
        2 February 2021 10: 58
        If you accurately hit the tank, then with the help of the HE warhead it will be destroyed. The main advantage of a high-precision missile with a HE warhead is the cheapness of the charge and versatility for most targets.
      2. 0
        2 February 2021 12: 30
        as for me it's easier to apply MLRS by area ...

        Forget the squares, only "smart" missiles for MLRS.
    9. -4
      2 February 2021 10: 52
      Eight sec. to the limit of a hundred is impressive, if only he quickly went into the army, otherwise they will endlessly modernize, the best enemy of the good.
      1. +3
        2 February 2021 11: 08
        The Tula KBP has been transporting prototypes of Hermes missiles to various exhibitions for about 20 years. True, on these models, the GOS was not observed in any way. Maybe this is the problem?
        1. +1
          2 February 2021 14: 26
          So you yourself do not know what the problem is, if you ask. Or maybe it is in something else that you are not aware of. Personally, I wish "Hermes" success and appearance in the army as early as possible, but if this does not suit someone then to hell with him.
    10. 0
      2 February 2021 11: 03
      The Turks scrambled the Hermes.

      And they said that they had time to test it in Karabakh
      In Karabakh, Azerbaijanis used Turkish multiple launch rocket systems with the latest high-precision TRLG-230 satellite-guided and laser-guided missiles from Roketsan. Target designation was given by Bayraktar TB2. In fact, the missiles passed the first combat tests in Karabakh. Hit Accuracy 100% ".
      1. +2
        2 February 2021 11: 42
        The Turks scrambled the Hermes.


        The Turks did not scramble the Hermes, but calmly, without releasing gases into a puddle, manufactured and tested in a real combat conflict a multifunctional multi-caliber missile system based on a Russian-made chassis. In real combat conditions, a twin was worked out: a missile system - an UAV.
        Their TRLG-230 guided missile as shown above showed 100% efficiency.
        And the level of their technologies in the coming years will make it possible to implement the "fire and forget" principle in this missile system in several versions.
        And "dear Russians from KBP" zapadlo go to "Splav" (which is 10 minutes walk) and agree on a single platform and a unified TPK.
        And so for another twenty years they will write press releases with a predicted result (according to Chernomyrdin): "They want the best, they will receive it as always."
      2. 0
        2 February 2021 12: 38
        No, they did not copy-paste, this is generally different, it looks more like Tornado-S with guided projectiles.
        1. 0
          2 February 2021 14: 07
          No, they did not copy-paste, this is generally different, it looks more like Tornado-S with guided projectiles.

          I exaggerated a little on copy-paste. Unlike some Chinese products, when the external shape and many details coincide, the Turks, of course, made an original complex with their rocket.
          But the general concept is similar to the long-range "Hermes" - on the marching site, correction by satellite navigation, at the final site, guidance by an external laser control center. Even the number of missiles on the launcher is the same as the launcher "Hermes"
    11. +3
      2 February 2021 15: 49
      "Do not read Soviet newspapers in the morning!" So here, "everything can," yes, "everything will be," but in fact they did not do it, they thwarted the order, and spent the money. And most importantly, there are no guilty people in our country ... They will receive orders for another highly paid position and leave. And the army did not receive the complex, moreover, none, neither bad nor good. For how many years I have heard for it, 25 years for sure! And it was not and is not.
    12. +2
      3 February 2021 01: 03
      Hermes is something so cool, but it will come later.
    13. 0
      3 February 2021 16: 55
      Fired-Forgotten assumes the presence of an active seeker. When you do NOT need to illuminate the target with a laser or something.
    14. +1
      3 February 2021 16: 58
      IMHO, a missile of this mass, range (and price) is the wrong way.
      An attack drone is the best solution, it conducts reconnaissance and attacks itself.

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