BMP-1 and BMP-2: races on the range and shooting at targets

Open space, roaring motors, clanking metal - and this is not an ordinary rally with race cars. This is a military vehicle race. Infantry fighting vehicles - BMP-1 and BMP-2 - were brought up to the start.

Tracked armored vehicles pass the first section of the distance, make a U-turn practically on the spot and go back, while maneuvering.

One of the most spectacular parts of this BMP rally is the drift on the training ground.

All these races on BMPs were shown on the Krupnokaliberny Raspolokh channel. The author of the video presents to the viewer not only how the armored vehicles behave at the maximum speeds possible for them, but also how they fundamentally differ from each other - including differences in weapons.

For example, it is indicated that the BMP-1 was created for combat operations mainly in flat Europe. However, for a war in mountainous areas (for example, in Afghanistan), its gun was already not suitable, since it had a very limited ability to deviate in a vertical plane - the combat vehicle became an easy target for the enemy, who occupied the dominant height. She simply could not respond with fire in such a way that it covered the enemy, who was entrenched in the mountains.

About how the BMP-1 and BMP-2 behave at the training ground, how and with what weapons they hit targets, how they work in pairs - in the plot of the mentioned channel:

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[SaLaR]

There is also gunpowder in the flask ..................

[Insurgent]

Quote: SaLaR

There is also gunpowder in the flask ..................

In this case, we have. "Behi" are ours, and the video was filmed here ...

Moreover, a whole cycle.
And clearly Fresh moments when the Ukrop "deuce" smashed us the position of the "cliff" from exactly such (standard) blocks ...

[Stepan S]

I wonder where the YouTube equipment, ammunition comes from ..? It can be seen that the machines are very ancient, like "after the war."

[Insurgent]

Quote: Stepan S

I wonder where the tech from YouTube, ammunition ...? It can be seen that the machines are very ancient, like "after the war".

"Like for attentiveness "

Not "like after the war" , and during the war

The video was filmed in the DPR, on real military equipment. So her condition is "as it is".

[Flashpoint]

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Quote: Stepan S

I wonder where the tech from YouTube, ammunition ...? It can be seen that the machines are very ancient, like "after the war".

"Like for attentiveness "

Not "like after the war" , and during the war

The video was filmed in the DPR, on real military equipment. So her condition is "as it is".

Video - class, cheer up! Say hello to comrades from grateful viewers!

[Insurgent]

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Video - class, cheer up! Say hello to comrades from grateful viewers!

Do you know ... Comrades (u-tube channel), not ours, but from Russia

[hagen]

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Roller - class

Maybe a movie and a class, but the bearded dude, apparently by mistake, called the Thunder gun "no rollback", and the demonstrated shot PG-15 called PG-9. And in general, he does not seem to distinguish a grenade from a shot. It is certainly a trifle, but indicative. The drive of the horizontal guidance of the gun at 20 deg / s is quite sufficient to track such a target as a growth target running around the BMP. Although, as in the BMP-2, there is no automatic target acquisition and tracking. The BMP-2 has a horizontal guidance speed in automatic mode - 6g / sec, in manual mode - 30. So there is a factual inaccuracy. Apparently chuvachek if he served in the RA, then not on the BMP.

[Konnick]

Quote: Insurgent

really military equipment.

Which will sweep away all the birdhouses and T-90, and Armata. You don't even need to pierce the armor, but simply blind them. While the turret of the tank is turning, these cars will shoot all the ammunition and leave.

[Insurgent]

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While the turret of the tank is turning, these cars will shoot all the ammunition and leave.

"You talk apolitically, I swear on my word! "

So the tank allowed the "behu" to come within range of fire ... Yeah, ...

[Konnick]

This is if in an open field, and a city, mountains or forests .... Yeah. Low visibility conditions. The modern optoelectronic devices are too delicate and huge. Excellent goals. During World War II, modern tanks could not even drive up to the trenches. All devices would have smashed and demolished the modules on the tower along with the machine guns.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Konnick

This is if in an open field, and a city, mountains or forests .... Yeah. Low visibility conditions.

And there, the tanks will not be alone, but will be covered by the infantry, which will climb to the heights, occupying the key ones.

It is on paper and in YouTube videos, everything is so simple and smooth. But as soon as you get out on the ground ...

[Konnick]

Slowly, without firing, the first line of German tanks left the forest road in the amount of 10 pieces, followed by another, in total 7 ranks of 10 tanks left, i.e. 70 tanks. They move slowly, looking at the positions of our artillery. Commander Nikiforov allowed the first line to go to the middle of the inclined valley, and when the tanks began to go out in the given directions, Nikiforov at that time noticed which tank the chief of the armada was in and began shooting at the chief's tank at vulnerable spots; at this time it was exactly 3 pm. There was no positive shooting result. Nikiforov loaded the tape from the tapes brought by Frolov and began to shoot at the track of the chief's tank. We both saw: there was a flash of fire on the left track, and the track exploded, and the armada chief's tank turned to the left by 120 degrees, no less. The chief tank was surrounded by neighboring German tanks, protecting it from the fire of our artillery and the continuous fire of Nikifirov from the DShK. The chief from his tank could not climb into any nearest neighboring tank, and for a long time was surrounded by his tanks, while the chief decided to escort his tank to the forest path, before it’s too late: the "disgusting DShK" darkened my eyes, tanks protecting me, "circling" - obscuring the battlefield. The battle between our artillery and German tanks had already lasted about 50 minutes and the sound of our artillery firing was heard sometimes weaker, sometimes stronger. A large shelling of our rear began
https://www.forum-kenig.ru/viewtopic.php?t=2323
This is about the battle in Prussia. DShK against tanks. A small excerpt, there was only one DShK, but in capable hands.
BATTLE BEFORE KLEIN NORGAU "05.02.1945/XNUMX/XNUMX.

[Flashpoint]

Quote: Konnick

Quote: Insurgent

really military equipment.

Which will sweep away all the birdhouses and T-90, and Armata. You don't even need to pierce the armor, but simply blind them. While the turret of the tank is turning, these cars will shoot all the ammunition and leave.

This is for an ambush scenario or an infantry fighting vehicle that actually got close to the tank. For this, well, the crew of the BMP must try very hard, and the crew of the tank must really sleep through everything and be left without cover.

[Konnick]

The capabilities of modern large-caliber small arms, automatic and sniper, make tanks inapplicable for close combat. A tank with modern huge and vulnerable observation and aiming devices, KAZs and dynamic protection will not be able to approach a modern infantry unit closer than 2 km. The density and accuracy of the fire will quickly blind the tank, which needs to stop or slow down significantly for targeted shooting (look at tank biathlon, at what speed most people smear on targets 1,5 kilometers or closer, I don't remember, and this is on flat concrete)

[Konnick]

Quote: Insurgent

And clearly Fresh moments of how the Ukrop "deuce" smashed us the position of the "cliff" from exactly such (standard) blocks.

In modern military conflicts, it makes no sense to create stationary firing positions. The accuracy of modern weapons is very high, it is enough for a howitzer, such as the Coalition, to give exact coordinates and there is no checkpoint or a beautiful artillery yard in Armenian.