Semin: Lebanese showed a real protest, as they have nothing to lose

The teenagers were knocking down surveillance cameras. The protesters set fire to garbage cans and cars. In groups of several people, police officers were attacked.

These are not reports from Minsk, Amsterdam, Paris, Washington, Moscow, Kiev or Berlin. All this is about the events that unfolded in the Lebanese capital. In the same Beirut, in which an explosion of incredible power thundered a few months ago, which destroyed about a third of the entire city. Until now, the port area of ​​Beirut resembles a ghost town - the skeletons of houses, construction and other special equipment that cannot cope with the loads, and illegal scrap metal collectors.

In this regard, the Lebanese protest has become the one that arises according to Lenin's definition, when the lower classes cannot, and the upper classes no longer want.
In his "Agitprop" Konstantin Semin notes that the Lebanese protest is from despair, from the fact that the people are really suffocating from hopelessness.

Semin:

Little Lebanon has clearly demonstrated the difference between discontent and despair, between sluggish fermentation and an explosion of popular indignation.

The journalist notes that a real protest affects almost everyone and occurs when millions have nothing to lose.
Release of "Agitprop":

Comments

[Svarog]

We, many more, have something to lose .. so, as in Libya it is not expected .. here the mortgage and loans will be paid off .. it will be scary .. But seriously, of course, when there is nothing to eat, there will be no time they will not stop fines ... there will be tin.

[kenig1]

Libya or Lebanon, there and there is the city of Tripoli.

[Nasrat]

Quote: kenig1

Libya or Lebanon, there and there is the city of Tripoli.

Bortsun, he fights ... he has no time with geography ...

Quote: Svarog

We, many more, have something to lose ... so, like in Libya

Under the current regime, you seem to have built a two-story brick house - indeed, you still have something to lose ...

[Svarog]

Quote: Nasr

Quote: kenig1

Libya or Lebanon, there and there is the city of Tripoli.

Bortsun, he fights ... he has no time with geography ...

Quote: Svarog

We, many more, have something to lose ... so, like in Libya

You seem to have built a two-storey brick house - indeed, there is still something to lose ...

So I didn't build it .. rot ..

[Nasrat]

Quote: Svarog

So I didn't build it .. rot ..

And infa passed that there is a house ...
ps
So you became "obsessed" fighters because of the lack of completion, or what? Or what to finish building?

[Svarog]

Quote: Nasr

And infa passed that there is a house ...

INFA passed You take the Old with difficulty .. I said .. it costs .. it’s worth it .. and rot ..

So you became "obsessed" fighters because of the lack of completion, or what? Or what to finish building?

What can you help? I do not mind .. they helped Solovyov, they helped Kiselev .. I certainly cannot compare with them .. well, my requests are significantly less

[7,62x54]

arises by Lenin's definition, when the lower classes cannot, and the upper classes no longer want.

It would be more correct "the upper classes cannot, but the lower classes do not want to."
Pick up by ad ...

[Ryusei]

And who is this Semin, what is known, well, except for the strange stream of consciousness pouring over the edge?

[Nasrat]

Quote: Ryusey

And who is this Semin, what is known, well, except for the strange stream of consciousness pouring over the edge?

Tooting. On the other hand, now every expert, and in everything and at once! I'm not lying, the Internet won't let you lie!

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Ryusey

And who is this Semin, what is known, well, except for the strange stream of consciousness pouring over the edge?

Can you object to him? Well-reasoned, if you can, of course.

[Quadro]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote: Ryusey

And who is this Semin, what is known, well, except for the strange stream of consciousness pouring over the edge?

Can you object to him? Well-reasoned, if you can, of course.

Why should he object? Talking about children of bureaucrats abroad and at the same time he keeps his family in the United States and has a residence permit there, this is Navalny # 2, only tinted red, but inside the same thing. The video where he at one of the amerskih rallies almost directly said "here the Americans with portraits of Stalin came out, the United States will become socialist right now and we must urgently also", for a long time sunk into my soul. Where is the revolution in the United States? Something they are not socialist. Semin said that already. In general, he simply breeds ordinary people, and he himself only rivets vidosiki and has gesheft.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Quadro

Why should he object? Talking about children of bureaucrats abroad ...

You disassemble today's video, it's about him. And what he said earlier, you at least give a link, well, I don’t have to revisit all his videos. As for the family, as far as I know, he is divorced, and he goes there to see his son. However, this is irrelevant and has nothing to do with the content of his videos.

[Quadro]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote: Quadro

Why should he object? Talking about children of bureaucrats abroad ...

You disassemble today's video, it's about him. And what he said earlier, you at least give a link, well, I don’t have to revisit all his videos. As for the family, as far as I know, he is divorced, and he goes there to see his son. However, this is irrelevant and has nothing to do with the content of his videos.

I cannot provide a link, because it was a few months ago, this video is about a "socialist" rally in new york. And yes - the fact that he is divorced does not mean anything, he has a residence permit, but he could go there on a visa. And this is all important, what kind of citizenship do bureaucrats have, and why does the citizenship of Semin's children not care? How to obtain US citizenship for a family with children is not easy, it is very difficult. In the whole of the Russian Federation, God forbid, a couple of thousand people receive a green card.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Quadro

And this is all important, what kind of citizenship do bureaucrats have, and why does the citizenship of Semin's children not care?

Well, first of all, Semin is not a bureaucrat, therefore he does not live at the expense of taxpayers and does not express the interests of the state, but expresses only his personal opinion.

Quote: Quadro

I cannot provide a link, because it was a few months ago, this video is about a "socialist" rally in new york.

In my opinion, I watched this video, but there, as I understand it, he said that these are social protests in one of the richest countries in the world. And then, there is a huge difference between socialists and communists. François Mitterrand, for example, was the head of the Socialist Party, they are Social Democrats, not communists at all.

Quote: Quadro

How to get US citizenship for a family with children is not easy,

I do not know anything about this, if you want, ask him yourself, he streams a lot and answers questions.

[didra]

An official or "bureaucrat" as you say so, is a civil servant. For example, these are: a postal worker, a caretaker in a polyclinic, a doctor engaged in administrative or organizational. work, etc. A huge number of people, whose work allows YOU to live in the state and not in a gang. Their content is the duty and duty of a citizen and not a handout.
And the people calling "Rus to the ax" and dividing the state and the people, these are fools or law-seekers.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: didra

An official or "bureaucrat" as you say so, is a civil servant. For example: a postal worker, a caretaker in a clinic, ...

I haven't seen any greater delirium for a long time. Is that your quote below.

Quote: didra

And the people calling "Rus to the ax" and dividing the state and the people, these are fools or law-seekers.

"The state is a political form of organizing society in a certain territory," This is from Wikipedia. However, I like this definition more: "The state is an apparatus of violence in the hands of the ruling class" (VI Lenin) In any case, the state and the people are completely different entities. The state can be considered popular if it acts in the interests of the majority of citizens. The current state of the Russian Federation acts in the interests of a miserable handful of oligarchs, and therefore it cannot be called a national one. Therefore, save your protective slops for a more suitable occasion.

[didra]

Brad, this is the 31st term from Ellochka the Ogre's dictionary, not an argument. Though.....

[didra]

Now about the state. I will not suggest you google it, I google it for YOU. https://spravochnick.ru/pravo_i_yurisprudenciya/chto_takoe_gosudarstvo/ - I hope they don't get banned for this.
You can enlighten.
In addition to a very illustrative table with definitions of the concept of the state, this site has an ultra-short overview of this very difficult topic.
I will allow myself to quote some definitions - to my taste.
Aristotle "... self-suppressing communication of citizens, not needing any other communication and not dependent on anyone else."
Nicolla Machiavelli "... the common good to be gained from fulfilling a real public interest"
A. Ilyin "... organized communication of people connected with each other by spiritual solidarity and who recognize this solidarity not only with their mind, but who support it with the power of patriotic love, sacrificial will, worthy and courageous deeds."
D. Locke "... the common will, which is the expression of the prevailing power"
FF Kokoshkin "... not a collection of people of a certain kind, but the relationship between them, a form of community, a certain psychic connection between them."
Further, when, for example, a modern historian studies a country as an object, he methodologically fixes the structural connections in the system: personality-society-state. That is, he sees them as clearly related. So you gave a blunder.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: didra

...... Further, when, for example, a modern historian studies a country as an object, he methodologically fixes the structural connections in the system: personality-society-state. That is, he sees them as clearly related. So you gave a blunder.

I will remind you of your words

Quote: didra

And the people calling "Rus to the ax" and dividing the state and the people, these are fools or law-seekers.

You write that these objects of our analysis (the state and the people) are interconnected. Of course this is so, one cannot exist without the other, at least today. But they are not the same. These are completely different objects. In theory, the people create a state for self-government. Now think about whether our state acts in the interests of the people (like the majority of the population of our country)? Whose interests does our present state express?

[didra]

The definition you have given from Wikipedia defines the term state through the concept of political form. However, the very concept of a politician is often defined through the concept of the state. This is not an absolute argument.
As for Ilyich :-). I foresee the anger of fans and adepts, but alas,
VI Lenin had no special education in this area. Therefore, its definitions are not serious. Although he is a master of factional struggle, a good publicist and as a practitioner of the revolution, Lenin is certainly a genius.
Yes, Marx is a serious philosopher, but his stage-by-stage theory of social formations suggests that communism is the highest stage following socialism. However, we do not live under communism. Something went wrong!
Regarding the pitiful handful: when you open the tap, this is already a state. Russians are state-controlled people - even if you "respect" Lenin. The love of many members of the forum for Stalin just demonstrates this. Statehood is the quality of the Russian people. This is not an unconditional statement, but challenging it is not as easy as YOU think.
About the slops. I will leave rudeness on your conscience (I have a strong skin). And again I will send you to Ellochka.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: didra

I foresee the wrath of fans and adepts, but alas. one).
VI Lenin had no special education in this area.

Probably Aristotle had a special education))) "Everyone should be free and have three slaves", "so-so" thought)))

Quote: didra

Yes, Marx is a serious philosopher, but his stage-by-stage theory of social formations suggests that communism is the highest stage following socialism. However, we do not live under communism. Something went wrong!

Well, the transition from feudalism to capitalism lasted in Europe for more than five hundred years.

Quote: didra

About the slops. I will leave rudeness on your conscience (I have a strong skin). And again I will send you to Ellochka.

Only in response to your similar "pearls".

Quote: didra

dividing the state and the people, they are fools or right-wing leaders

However, if I have offended you, I apologize. And nevertheless, I am categorically not satisfied with the current state system, I do not consider it either fair or popular. To the "ax", I do not call anyone, so why on your part such rejection of someone else's opinion?

[Jaromir]

Quote: Ryusey

And who is this Semin, what is known

In any case, much more truthful than Soloviev, Posner, Nevzorov, Bykov and others.

[The eye of the crying]

To be more truthful than Solovyov and Posner is not an achievement.

[Dodikson]

monkeys have always been monkeys. the animal has no intelligence, it cannot think and does not realize what it is doing.
so what's the news then?

[rocket757]

The journalist notes that a real protest affects almost everyone and occurs when millions have nothing to lose.

Our millions, now, pinch off ... not all at once, in short. They are not fools in power, they do not need a massive social protest.

[bobwings]

Let them crawl out from under Iran, throw off the odious extremist Hezbollah, end the unnecessary, expensive and outdated confrontation with Israel, and everything will be fine with them.
Western and Arab investments, tourism, a return to the days of Beirut as a Middle Eastern Paris ... they are only on Israeli tourists, who will flock there in hundreds of thousands, as now in Dubai, will make billions.

[Horon]

Let them get out of Iran, throw off the odious extremist Hezbollah,

Maybe that's not the point? Libya has already helped with the "tourists" after they overthrew Gaddafi! Yes, and Lebanon was once completely secular, until the local regime became for someone.

[Mikhail3]

The sheer incompetence, turning into illiteracy, of the Lebanese officials led to a terrible disaster. The same outstanding qualities of the Lebanese elite have led to the fact that these people also cannot cope with the consequences of the disaster. People began to starve and went out into the street. So what to do? Die anyway ...
These are not only Lebanese problems - the whole world is like that. All the elites have rotted away. It's just that warehouses are not everywhere yet. But this is ahead. Everyone has. Elites around the world can no longer really cope with the management of the modern economy, technology, and society.
The process is natural. In a fight between power-lovers and clever people, clever people always lose. They see the consequences. And power-hungry people do not care about the consequences. And they win, seize power, which, in principle, they are unable to cope with.
The world is going wild. There used to be the USSR, which stabilized and even partially sanitized all these negative processes. But the USSR no longer exists in the world ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mikhail3

These are not only Lebanese problems - the whole world is like that. All the elites have rotted away

Yes, these are not only Lebanese and Libyan problems. It began with Yugoslavia, then began to shake the Arab countries with "color revolutions, of which Egypt coped with the military, and then went further, Ukraine, Belarus, Karabakh, Kyrgyzstan. Yes, and Europe is shaking not childishly, attempts at bulk in Russia, and even the United States itself got a kick on a soft spot Something not everything in the world is calm, it looks like bread is baked from the same dough.

[Mikhail3]

Smart people still worked in Yugoslavia, just old, with an old outlook on the world. But further ...
The world cannot but shake. There is never enough gingerbread for everyone, and if you also share dishonestly ... Mira snatches an increasingly skinny piece from each other's hands. Here it also shakes. This process always slips into war, but what about? The dough is one. One ruler asks the other - what are we going to do ?! The questions are hot! And the other answered him - but I don't know. You can still steal, of course. Only now the money is staggering. Everything in the world. Even the yuan. There are no more "civilized countries" where you could escape with the loot. They weren't there before, it's just that now even the gilding of advertising has slipped.

[Jaromir]

Quote: tihonmarine

Something not everything in the world is calm, it looks like bread is baked from the same dough.

In the same bakery and they have one chef

[BISMARCK94]

So it turns out that there are RIGHT protests somewhere?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: BISMARCK94

there are RIGHT protests somewhere?

And I think that there are no correct ones, the leaders are not the same.

[Quadro]

At Semin, any protest is correct if a portrait of Lenin and Stalin flashes there. And do not care that under them all sorts of Arab fanatics are jumping. Or illiterate servants who think socialism is a freebie and nothing needs to be done.

[nikvic46]

I like listening to Semin. He always soberly evaluates what is happening in the world and in the country. Understandable speech, good style. One thing becomes clear to me: change in society and history is not done at the whim of individuals.

[abrakadabre]

The Lebanese protest has become the one that arises according to Lenin's definition, when the lower classes cannot, and the upper classes no longer want.

The author is a Troechnik. Quite the opposite: the upper classes cannot, and the lower classes do not want to. This is what happens when they try to type an incomprehensible text (for the author of an article) with pens. For possible critics, I will add that what has been said applies only to the writer of the text with his hands, and not to the author and presenter in the attached video. Everything is in order there with education and understanding.