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"Electronic duel": the Western press has announced the version of the reasons for the rapprochement of the Su-24 with the destroyer Donald Cook

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"Electronic duel": the Western press has announced the version of the reasons for the rapprochement of the Su-24 with the destroyer Donald Cook

"This is deja vu" - this is how the Western press reacts to the information that the Russian Su-24 again "met" the US Navy destroyer Donald Cook in the Black Sea. Recall that an American warship entered the Black Sea waters a few days ago. And at one of the stages of his course, in the immediate vicinity of it, a Russian plane flew at low altitude.


The publication Task and Purpose writes that this is not the first "meeting" of a US Navy destroyer and a Russian plane, which journalists attributed to front-line bombers. At the same time, it was previously reported that a different version of the Su-24 was used over the Black Sea.

US military commanders in Europe declare that USS Donald Cook entered the Black Sea "to ensure security and stability in the region," adding that the ship was in international waters at a time when a Russian SU flew alongside it at low altitude. 24.

In the Western press, the press notes that during the "meeting" there was an "electronic duel" - with the use of airborne electronic equipment, including electronic warfare systems. There is no official confirmation that the Su-24 electronic warfare systems were used against Donald Cook and vice versa. The Western media version remains a version.



It is worth noting that this flight, the footage of which is demonstrated by the US naval command, may again acquire a large number of myths, like previous similar "meetings". Recall that at one time, publications appeared on the network that a Russian plane allegedly disrupted the work of the onboard electronics of an American destroyer. Well, the real meme became "the report of American sailors on the write-off or dismissal."

By and large, the usual work is going on to protect the maritime borders of Russia, including with the use of combat aviationcapable of demonstrating that the American ship has gone "too far" from the shores of the United States.

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USS Donald Cook
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  1. SaLaR
    SaLaR 1 February 2021 13: 21
    -61%
    Well, who is now .. fucked up .....? belay
    1. Dodikson
      Dodikson 1 February 2021 13: 32
      +28
      Yes, fuck the load of the toilet, I am glad that after the news that the completion of SP2 was started in Denmark, there was no more news that its completion was stopped due to sanctions or something else.
      along the way, either the Can leaked the sanctions on SP2 or ours put them with the device on both the anal and the saknitsy.
      1. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 1 February 2021 13: 36
        +20
        ... The publication Task and Purpose writes that this is not the first "meeting" of a US Navy destroyer and a Russian plane, which journalists attributed to front-line bombers. At the same time, it was previously reported that a different version of the Su-24 was used over the Black Sea.

        US military commanders in Europe declare that USS Donald Cook entered the Black Sea "to ensure security and stability in the region," adding that the ship was in international waters at a time when a Russian SU flew alongside it at low altitude. 24.

        Now the Professor and others like him will say that there was no Su-24 flight around the USS Donald Cook destroyer either then or now.
        1. krot
          krot 1 February 2021 20: 49
          -7
          In the Western press, the press notes that during the "meeting" there was an "electronic duel" - with the use of onboard electronic equipment, including electronic warfare systems. There is no official confirmation that the Su-24 electronic warfare systems were used against Donald Cook and vice versa.

          They crap striped ones .. And they come up with fables .. Storytellers! On this, that on the video of the Su-24 "Khibiny" did not stand. For "Khibiny" containers are provided at the ends of the wing, which were missing. Now they will write that they suppressed the work of our electronic warfare and now all Americans can exhale)))
          1. Dodikson
            Dodikson 1 February 2021 20: 58
            0
            I will tell you a secret, Khibin was not on any Su-24, because for them they are not
            there was an experimental container, but the experiment did not go further.
            1. krot
              krot 1 February 2021 21: 03
              +5
              Let me tell you a secret, "Khibiny" are on the Su-34 too .. Regularly and! Pay attention to the flaps with containers. The factory is already producing those called "Chkalovsky". On which I had the honor to work. And by the way, this is not a secret at all laughing
              1. Dodikson
                Dodikson 1 February 2021 21: 28
                +1
                hmm, I didn’t know that Su-34 and Su-24 are one and the same plane.
              2. akarfoxhound
                akarfoxhound 1 February 2021 22: 45
                +1
                Worked on Su-34, compare two pictures of Su-34 and Su-24 and you will be happy with enlightenment! laughing
                1. krot
                  krot 2 February 2021 06: 28
                  -2
                  Worked on Su-34, compare two pictures of Su-34 and Su-24 and you will be happy with enlightenment!

                  Whoever is given a head to eat into it cannot master logic.
                  Aircraft gliders are different, as are containers for equipment that may be identical. I hope my words did not confuse you? laughing "Google iffche" laughing
                  1. akarfoxhound
                    akarfoxhound 2 February 2021 07: 38
                    -2
                    Dear "adviser", in the 2000s, in this regiment (43rd OMShAP) I flew "iffche" on the Su-24, and the first trolling of Cook was carried out by my then KAZ ("during the search of Cook" he was already a squadron commander). So - what containers are suspended on the Su-24, I know from anyone better than monitor "experts" and what happened with Cook was actually up to a minute without journalistic embellishments, and you and your Google can continue to fantasize "for a war" wink Poke Klava, Google won't lie! laughing If an ardent Slavophile - there is an alternative - ash!
                    1. smaug78
                      smaug78 2 February 2021 08: 51
                      +7
                      Show flight book or another "officer's daughter"?
                      1. akarfoxhound
                        akarfoxhound 2 February 2021 11: 28
                        -5
                        Wow, the connoisseur drew? Crown of the conqueror of spring cushions did not crush the ears? Can't you scan an extract from the personal file for the officer's couch relative? wassat Do you understand anything in flight books? What is the first list of the owner in the flight book? What is the difference between the Air Force flight personnel book and naval aviation? With a medical ban on practical parachute jumps, what annual record is made with certification by a PDSnik ??? The numbers of the recorded exercises of the PCU, depending on the sections, how do they differ? How briefly is a regular, practically practiced exercise performed by all pilots of military aviation (and the same aviation of the Ministry of Emergency Situations) without exception, and this has not been done in the Civil Air Fleet for 30 years? (this is not a combat use). What is the most frequent aviation incident allowed by the flight crew on the Su-24 when performing scheduled flights? wink ). Or let's talk about my other materiel - MiG-31? Do you have any personal complaints about AGC when relocating corners?
                        Here's how to answer at least half of the questions clearly, and we will talk in more detail about aviation. And so, according to your first opus, there is every suspicion that a well-read aviator cook jerked to check me in professionalism? (welder? accountant? milking machine operator?) laughing
                      2. smaug78
                        smaug78 2 February 2021 12: 15
                        +3
                        Daughter, took a walk and disgraced myself again?))) I just asked for a flight book, which indicated the raid on the SU-24, and in response, verbal diarrhea laughing ... For you, hurray girl - Cook entered the Black Sea for the first time in 2014 ... Come on, burn more funny laughing
                      3. krot
                        krot 2 February 2021 15: 00
                        -1
                        Do you understand anything in flight books? What is the first list of the owner in the flight book? What is the difference between the Air Force flight personnel book and naval aviation?

                        One gyrus allows you to understand only such things .. Step to the left, step to the right, dense forest! Probably drinking? ))
                        And by the way, about my "Russophilia" did not understand what they wanted to say? Yes, I'm a Russophile!
                        Not enough vocabulary to write clearly?
                      4. akarfoxhound
                        akarfoxhound 2 February 2021 16: 54
                        +1
                        I agree, there is such a dense forest here! Judging by the imperceptibility of information, you are laying it down, and without interruption. The lexicon is normal for aviation, I decipher the special terms for local "experts" and how they enter other people's convolutions, including yours, I'm not interested at all.
                        Khibin is not suspended on the Su-24 - what else can you explain there ??? At all, in general, and never hung! Can you perceive that 24 was flying around Cook, while the Su-34 was "extinguished"? Or is it beyond the logic of a person far from aviation? Did the media forget to write VO "experts"?
                        Have you finished with rudeness?
                        For the entire 2014, Sanya flew 8 more times to fly over NATO troughs, and mattresses, and brits, the rest of the euro / small-grained. So what? For the first time with the electronic warfare for him, no more than coincidence, and coincided with the ubiquitous journalists.

                        You shouldn't cry for "ash" responding to your offer to "google", solely to obtain information from different sources.
                        If you were a bricklayer or baked bread, I would have looked at your reaction to the pilot's advice to google about cement mortar or working with a stove
                      5. krot
                        krot 2 February 2021 17: 36
                        -6
                        I decipher special terms to local "experts" and how they enter other people's convolutions, including yours, I'm not interested at all

                        There was no question about your "specialty" terms .. laughing And I say that nothing at all reaches you, except for special terms)) Are you on the airfield, or do you communicate with pilots? And I am with you in accessible Russian "express myself" without flaunting ..
                        And if that case concerns the Su-24, then I saw exactly the same containers on the flaps .. of course, the shape may not be like 34 had .. And it is clear that this product was clearly not prepared for 24, therefore it did not get accustomed to them ...
                      6. akarfoxhound
                        akarfoxhound 2 February 2021 18: 38
                        +1
                        Didn't experience anything on the plane. I'm telling you - a simple Su-24 flew, not even M, my friend flew, in the 2000s he was my flight commander. We met with him at TsNIAG in 2017, during the passage of the VLK, he told me about his flight. Simple Su-24s were stationed in Gvardeyskoye, because it was impossible to fly over the territory of the dill with a vigorous loaf, therefore, under the nuclear-free "raskurochivanie" we had very ancient vehicles with cut-off SR for special battalion. And in 2014, there was no other materiel in the regiment except for simple 24. A simple 24 could only use conventional b / supplies, the AURs could no longer, the X-23 had already been removed from service by that time, and you cannot hang others on it. There is no such thing - there is a pylon - hang whatever you want. Even the mixed type of suspension in the 24 appeared only on the M2, etc.
                        It's only in Hollywood that a pilot gets into the cockpit of a hustler and is surprised in the process. In reality, before taking off in the flight shift, you must go through ground training on board to see the features of the ergonomics of the cockpit (for 24 equipment of some launchers in the cockpit in different places, I only heard this from old people behind the MiG-21, there are even ejection handles - for different seats on different sides were in 3 different places - between the legs, on the sides from below or on top of the headrest). What I mean - you should know your materiel and the peculiarities of its operation without hesitation with your eyes closed.
                        Let's return to Cook - 24 flew on the command of the command post for a search (in fact, the task, apart from detection, is to examine the ship's board number and report). But there was time and kerosene in the car and the commander completed about 10 combat approaches to the target, taking them out at deck level. And at this time on air everything went out for everyone, Khibin was working, but from someone else's board, namely the Su-34 (it has this "device" built-in). The board flew off (and the commander is a great lover of flying at altitude, so that he could "bend over with cancer") and went home to the point. 34 worked in the distance and also left. How did it happen to the journalists - xs, maybe the Americans turned around, but not from ours for sure.
                        The regiment is now rearmed. The Khibiny is still being tested and improved. This is how it looks. Have a nice day!
                      7. krot
                        krot 3 February 2021 06: 48
                        0
                        Maybe you're right! And there is nothing in it that I admit it. Everyone is engaged in their own business, and knows something more than others! Just flaunting this and blaming others for ignorance is not worth it .. Not all of us are familiar with the commander ..) And the fact that the Khibiny was working at that moment, and the fact that now the "empty" Su-24 (though, as you say then too) flew, did not cease to be a fact! It was about this that the striped ones in vain started their graters about the EW fight between Cook and the 24th this time. Everything is simple, as it turned out ..)
                      8. akarfoxhound
                        akarfoxhound 3 February 2021 07: 37
                        +2
                        Yes, he didn’t flaunt, a look from the inside, just this topic of electronic warfare, the Su-24 and Cook, journalists pleaded to death, people believe, discuss in vain, they cut coupons on the "emptiness".
                        NATO ships enter the Black Sea without separation, ours constantly fly around them, bringing these "board numbers". There are turntables, Beshki, Sushki, everything. The commanders of the enemy ships - who are normal, let them take a picture, the planes are behind, who are showing off - begin to circulate, not letting them be photographed, and his aircraft is "crawling" in full. Everything, as in the union, has not changed. And electronic warfare is the fantasy of journalists in search of something hot with "pulling an owl on the globe," as they like to say here. Have a good day!
                      9. krot
                        krot 3 February 2021 08: 16
                        +2
                        Have a good day!

                        Same to you! And thanks all the same for the interesting information. hi
          2. akarfoxhound
            akarfoxhound 2 February 2021 15: 56
            -1
            The collective farmer obocp -s, not even comprehending the text with her own Google, maybe. in Google suddenly it is not? Doesn't look like an udder with a bucket, and that's why it's not clear? belay

            For a flying man, I wrote elementary things, but for you it looks like a Chinese transcription wink
            "I asked for a flight book" - explaining that this is a raid - the dirtiest nonsense of a person far from aviation.

            The question for the gifted is - which pilot is more prepared for the DB - with 300 and 400 flight hours on this type? Did you answer yourself?
            And now with 300 hours (on a specific type of Su-24, and the total is 2000), a 1st class pilot with a level at night, in a group, with a minimum, from difficult types, and from 400 hours - a second pilot - night, PMU / SMU, singly. Well, a lover of reading for aviation, what will the raid tell you about? wink Oleg Mutovin, for example, has 7 thousand hours of total flight time, of which about 31 on the MiG-200, so what? Is he inexperienced, test pilot? Well, collective farmer, has the brain climax come? Nothing? Well then, pull the cow by the titties, without getting into the "higher matter" laughing
          3. smaug78
            smaug78 2 February 2021 16: 02
            +1
            hysterical again laughing
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  • alekszeit
    alekszeit 2 February 2021 13: 02
    +2
    one "worked", the other "flew", so why are you fighting with each other?
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 3 February 2021 04: 17
    0
    Now they are "calm" - the hold is filled with diapers.
  • Runoway
    Runoway 1 February 2021 13: 57
    -19%
    I am glad that after the news that the completion of SP2 has begun in Denmark

    Well, first of all, off topic comments
    And secondly, what is the joy ?! If you are a shareholder of Gazprom, then I am sincerely glad for you, if not, then despite all the flows, you will only expect price increases in any scenario
    1. Dodikson
      Dodikson 1 February 2021 13: 58
      +29
      and, well, yes, Gazprom does not pay money to the budget, and you are not a state employee and do not use the services of state bodies.
      1. Runoway
        Runoway 1 February 2021 14: 16
        -25%
        In order to understand how the budget is replenished from oil and gas production, I recommend that you learn from the example of Norway, but even with our ridiculous deduction, the more the budget, the more they drag away, they will not share with you anyway
        1. Dodikson
          Dodikson 1 February 2021 14: 17
          +16
          that is, you say that not a cent goes to the RF budget from oil and gas?
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 1 February 2021 15: 42
            +20
            Quote: Dodikson
            that is, you say that not a cent goes to the RF budget from oil and gas?

            According to the logic of a citizen, the smaller the budget, the better. Less will be taken apart.
            1. krot
              krot 1 February 2021 20: 53
              +2
              Quote: Dodikson
              and, well, yes, Gazprom does not pay money to the budget, and you are not a state employee and do not use the services of state bodies.

              Yes, he is from the Sumerians .. They have their own budget, a beggar, so he envies ..))))
    2. Rubi0
      Rubi0 1 February 2021 14: 18
      +11
      Buy a share of Gazprom for 200 rubles and be happy when they go up. Get rich, so to speak, together with the country, and rejoice with the country. She gave you all the tools for this, it is not Putin's fault that you cannot buy a share in the bank's mobile application in a couple of clicks
      1. Dodikson
        Dodikson 1 February 2021 14: 19
        +4
        not for that liberals work out grants that would then invest in the State Company of Russia.
  • sergo1914
    sergo1914 1 February 2021 13: 58
    -6
    Quote: Dodikson
    Yes, fuck the load of the toilet, I am glad that after the news that the completion of SP2 was started in Denmark, there was no more news that its completion was stopped due to sanctions or something else.
    along the way, either the Can leaked the sanctions on SP2 or ours put them with the device on both the anal and the saknitsy.


    Where is this news?
    On this day, February 1, 1931, the great Reformer was born, who made a significant contribution to the destruction of the red revanchism of the 90s, as well as put Russia on the rails of a market economy and, for the first time in the country's history, consolidated the citizen's right to freedom of speech at the constitutional level, the first and only legitimate President of the Russian Federation, Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin!
    And also this Great Politician gave us a New Leader of the Nation - Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin!

    PS Phew. Well, like everyone should bomb.
    1. Dodikson
      Dodikson 1 February 2021 14: 00
      +2
      where is the news about what?
      1. sergo1914
        sergo1914 1 February 2021 14: 25
        -3
        Quote: Dodikson
        where is the news about what?


        Birthday of the Great Combi ... the Reformer.
        1. Dodikson
          Dodikson 1 February 2021 14: 30
          +3
          ah, Boruch Elkind's birthday.
          Yes, Maxim is dead, and the penis is not with him.
          that's how I remembered about him, so it began to stink.
        2. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 1 February 2021 15: 31
          0
          Quote: sergo1914


          Birthday of the Great Combi ... the Reformer.


          Refrigerator !!!
          :)
        3. gurzuf
          gurzuf 1 February 2021 17: 59
          -1
          Are you talking about the drunk?
    2. BMP-2
      BMP-2 1 February 2021 15: 14
      0
      Sergo, you are a bomber, however! laughing
      1. sergo1914
        sergo1914 1 February 2021 21: 46
        +1
        Quote: BMP-2
        Sergo, you are a bomber, however! laughing


        Amazing. Who put ten pluses? Well, I’ll understand two - Putin and Medvedev. But who are the rest?
        1. BMP-2
          BMP-2 1 February 2021 23: 04
          +2
          Nowadays, very few people remember who the bombers are. And in connection with the education reform, soon those who know what a plus is will also not be left! laughing
  • Professor
    Professor 1 February 2021 17: 06
    +1
    Quote: Dodikson
    Yes, fuck the load of the toilet, I am glad that after the news that the completion of SP2 was started in Denmark, there was no more news that its completion was stopped due to sanctions or something else.

    And you try to look at the geolocation of the ships involved in the construction. You will be very surprised where they are and you will be able to ask the question: "Who then builds?"
    1. ZEMCH
      ZEMCH 3 February 2021 20: 09
      0
      Quote: Professor
      And you try to look at the geolocation of the ships involved in the construction. You will be very surprised where they are and you will be able to ask the question: "Who then builds?"

      link to geolocation of Fortune
      https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:15.2/centery:54.8/zoom:9
      As you can see it builds))) wink
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 1 February 2021 13: 51
    +11
    We'll see in Odessa. They go there regularly. to dump the toilet load - then the whole bay in the American Mr. The Odessa press has complained more than once
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 1 February 2021 22: 37
      +3
      Quote: Cowbra
      We'll see in Odessa. They go there regularly. to dump the toilet load - then the whole bay in the American Mr. The Odessa press has complained more than once

      Some of the Roman senators or emperors said that all kinds of goods were brought to Rome from all over the world, and only shit was taken out of Rome.

      Isn't America a colonial empire? It quite justifies itself ...
  • Verkhovskaya
    Verkhovskaya 6 February 2021 15: 53
    0
    Well, you, as always!
  • Blacksmith 55
    Blacksmith 55 1 February 2021 13: 21
    +26
    If Cook was in international waters, presumably the plane was in international airspace, and this did not violate anything. Then it’s okay to make noise, because the Americans are flying around other people's ships.
    1. credo
      credo 1 February 2021 13: 31
      +24
      Quote: smith 55
      If Cook was in international waters, presumably the plane was in international airspace, and this did not violate anything. Then it’s okay to make noise, because the Americans are flying around other people's ships.

      Here everything is explained quite simply - If the Yankees or their subordinates rattle their weapons far from their shores and borders, then this is "to ensure security and stability in the region", if the Chinese, Russians, Iranians do the same, then this is a threat to humanity.
      The West needs a bogeyman to maintain the fear and hatred of its population towards the independent countries of the world, so such countries are always to blame for everything.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 1 February 2021 13: 42
        +5
        Let the US destroyers chase - our pilots will be in good shape. hi
    2. mister-red
      mister-red 1 February 2021 13: 59
      +10
      Quote: Blacksmith 55
      If Cook was in international waters, presumably the plane was in international airspace, and this did not violate anything. Then it’s okay to make noise, because the Americans are flying around other people's ships.

      In 1983, they were on the BDK in Mediterranean for 1/2 year. We did not only such overflights, but also simulated attacks, i.e. either behind or in front at low altitude and sharply upwards not a short distance from the ship.
      Mostly French on Ettendars and a little less often Americans on Intruders. As it were considered the norm.
      1. loki565
        loki565 1 February 2021 14: 28
        0
        The only question is why simulate the attack, are they going to drop bombs on him? With modern anti-ship missiles, it's better not to fly closer than 100 km at all.
        1. mister-red
          mister-red 11 February 2021 23: 10
          0
          Quote: loki565
          But the question is why to simulate an attack, are they going to drop bombs on him? With modern anti-ship missiles, it's better not to fly closer than 100 km at all.

          Sorry, I didn't manage to ask.
          By the way, here is a photo of Etendar, this is Mediterranean, 1983
          And our company is on the BDK.

      2. Motorist
        Motorist 1 February 2021 22: 06
        +1
        Quote: mister-red
        We made not only such overflights, but also simulated attacks

        Sometimes, such imitators were shot down (no one sees yet). I heard a story in the second person - an acquaintance of the KDP told about his father's service. Maybe from the category of marine stories - I sell for what I bought. hi
    3. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 1 February 2021 22: 42
      0
      Quote: smith 55
      If Cook was in international waters, presumably the plane was in international airspace, and this did not violate anything. Then it’s okay to make noise, because the Americans are flying around other people's ships.

      They screech due to the fact that they make overflights, but with them, except for the Russians, no one allows himself such impudence.

      And do not care - a fairy tale or not about the "Khibiny" and equipment failure. The main thing is that they can be rude to anyone, but then they themselves ran into the same thing. This is their "equipment" in their heads and burns out.
  • Eldorado
    Eldorado 1 February 2021 13: 22
    +9
    Yesterday 2 Su-24s, 2 Su-34s and 2 Su-30s were emitting attacks on him. bully
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 1 February 2021 13: 52
      +5
      Yesterday 2 Su-24s, 2 Su-34s and 2 Su-30s emulated attacks on it
      correct training on the surface target, all within the framework of international agreements with geopolitical partners .., especially the goal is "tasty and fat", the guys are training, just like all their colleagues !!!
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 1 February 2021 14: 20
        +3
        Quote: Intruder
        correct training on the surface target, all within the framework of international agreements with geopolitical partners .., especially the goal is "tasty and fat", the guys are training, just like all their colleagues !!!

        It is important whether our planes appeared unexpectedly for them, or not ... If suddenly ... Then it's good! And the suppression of the powerful electronics of the ship by a small aircraft is generally unlikely ...
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    1. Dym71
      Dym71 1 February 2021 13: 32
      +6
      Quote: Emil Mamedoff
      Raid on destroyer USA ..

      Yes, what kind of plaque is there, we have a highway with a resolution of over 110 km / h, and these radishes cross in the wrong places. yes
      1. Petr Vladimirovich
        Petr Vladimirovich 1 February 2021 13: 40
        +1
        The mainline is not the mainline, but the gas pipeline is for sure ... drinks
      2. Intruder
        Intruder 1 February 2021 13: 53
        0
        and these radishes go in the wrong places
        exactly hi , on the video - walking along the side of the road on the right, and also smokes the atmosphere !? laughing
  • Alexfly
    Alexfly 1 February 2021 13: 25
    +18
    SU-24 made a flyby with visual control of a suspicious object, possibly related to the transportation of contraband and illegal migration in the territories bordering the Russian Federation.
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 1 February 2021 13: 30
      +8
      Quote: AlexFly
      SU-24 made a flyby with visual control of a suspicious object, possibly related to the transportation of contraband and illegal migration in the territories bordering the Russian Federation.

      And also with the procedure for remote detection of intra-American terrorists on board ...
      1. dzvero
        dzvero 1 February 2021 14: 34
        +2
        domestic terrorists on board

        By the way, yes, I wonder if the crew was lustration for sympathy with Trump and loyalty to the values ​​of the Democrats and the Pelosi personally?
    2. Intruder
      Intruder 1 February 2021 13: 54
      0
      possibly related to the transportation of contraband and illegal migration in the territories bordering the Russian Federation
      to heaps, transportation of weapons with all sorts of black personalities from Africa !!!
  • Pereira
    Pereira 1 February 2021 13: 29
    +5
    "To ensure security and stability in the region",

    I still don't get it. Provided or not?
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 1 February 2021 13: 33
      +4
      I still don't get it. Provided or not?
      Su-24 ??? Provided !!! wassat
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 1 February 2021 13: 41
        +1
        There are no questions about the Su-24.
        I'm wondering how Captain Donald will unsubscribe? HZ as they think there KPI. Will he receive an award for successfully completing an important assignment at an international level?
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 1 February 2021 13: 46
          +5
          HZ as they think there KPI.
          Not a drowning, then a hero! lol And so the dog knows them - saw the Aegis plane or did not see it, we will not know for a long time. And that was the whole intrigue with Cook for the first time.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 1 February 2021 13: 55
            +1
            Quote: NDR-791
            Not a drowning, then a hero!

            Recently, someone from the members of the forum asked the amersky military where he got so many medals from
            He told, in general, for everything in a row, up to a hundred hit the target laughing
          2. loki565
            loki565 1 February 2021 14: 33
            -2
            It is strange that their electronic warfare works (or does not work). The plane went strictly to the ship, which means that its electronic warfare did not drown out. On the other hand, they were waiting for him from that side, and at the time when he flew, it means that the air defense saw him.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 1 February 2021 13: 53
      -2
      Quote: Pereira
      I still don't get it. Provided or not?


      Provided yes
      Security restored, all pirates fled to Somalia
  • rocket757
    rocket757 1 February 2021 13: 30
    +4
    "Electronic duel": the Western press has announced the version of the reasons for the rapprochement of the Su-24 with the destroyer Donald Cook

    A convenient "simulator" turned up. Why not practice?
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 1 February 2021 13: 37
    +9
    They scoff. Admiral Makarov, together with the Bastion ground complex, conducted exercises to destroy a sea target. Electronic launches were carried out today.
  • LAWNER
    LAWNER 1 February 2021 13: 39
    +1
    I wish I could blow a latrine over the destroyer ... It's a pity that submarines don't fly .. Sailors love such "jokes".
  • Petr Vladimirovich
    Petr Vladimirovich 1 February 2021 13: 49
    -1
    In Soviet times, there was such fun, to go over the Amer and drop a pencil case with a friendly message inside exactly on the deck.
    And a comrade who served on the nuclear submarine told me that they entered the Enterprise's warrant on the Far East and made the Dolphin ... fellow
    1. Bez 310
      Bez 310 1 February 2021 14: 02
      -1
      Quote: Petr Vladimirovich
      there was such fun, to go over the amer and drop a pencil case with a friendly message inside exactly on the deck.

      Who have you been to?
      Have you personally flown and dropped yourself?
      Or did you just lie for a catchphrase?
      1. Petr Vladimirovich
        Petr Vladimirovich 1 February 2021 14: 48
        -2
        No, buddy, I just served in the aviation at the Maya-Maya base. The people in the group were from everywhere. So besides the computer and the view from the window, I saw a little something ...
        1. Bez 310
          Bez 310 1 February 2021 14: 51
          -2
          Quote: Petr Vladimirovich
          No, buddy, I just served in aviation

          That is, they did not fly themselves, nothing was ever from an airplane
          dropped, but just lying to attract attention.
          I'll tell you what - stop lying!
          And I'm not your friend ...
          1. Petr Vladimirovich
            Petr Vladimirovich 1 February 2021 14: 53
            -6
            That's right, banal boor, to ignore!
            1. Bez 310
              Bez 310 1 February 2021 14: 57
              +5
              Quote: Petr Vladimirovich
              banal boor

              No, not a boor, but a simple navigator of naval aviation,
              who is tired of this outrageous lie.
              I sketched so many things from an airplane that you won't
              dreamed, and I served in naval aviation for more
              quarter of a century, and my father served there, and my brother.
              In general, I understand something about flying around ships, not
              what some ...
              1. Petr Vladimirovich
                Petr Vladimirovich 1 February 2021 15: 46
                0
                See a personal, wrote there drinks
                1. Bez 310
                  Bez 310 1 February 2021 16: 03
                  -2
                  Quote: Petr Vladimirovich
                  See a personal, wrote there

                  Don't write anything to me in a personal
                  just don’t lie, and that's it.
        2. alekszeit
          alekszeit 2 February 2021 13: 41
          0
          well, yes, they rattled a little for a catchphrase)
      2. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 1 February 2021 20: 07
        +3
        Or did you just lie for a catchphrase? ...... the opponent most likely confused ... not the Enterprise, but the Kitty Hawk, not the plane, but the nuclear submarine of Project 671 K - 314 ... it was a wonderful dolphin. .. the kitty hock has a whipped bottom of 40 meters. 314 damaged the propeller and partially the wheelhouse along with all surface equipment ... it was a fun time
  • Roman123567
    Roman123567 1 February 2021 13: 52
    +3
    Who just comes up with this nonsense about electronic warfare ??
    Like the plane can't fly just like that ..
    1. Cowbra
      Cowbra 1 February 2021 14: 09
      +2
      Well, yes, the men were returning from fishing
  • Bez 310
    Bez 310 1 February 2021 14: 00
    +2
    "combat aircraft capable of demonstrating that the American
    the ship has gone 'too far' from the US coast. "
    When will they stop raving?
    What did the author mean by this?
  • volodimer
    volodimer 1 February 2021 14: 03
    0
    People, sorry for the offtopic recourse
    I watched the kin at 6:40. On the shoulder of the Red Army ... Did I understand correctly that this is a DP without disks?
    Don't kick, I just didn't know where to ask.
    1. volodimer
      volodimer 1 February 2021 14: 10
      +1
      On this topic. Maybe the pilot of the SU-24 last time looked after someone in Cook's team. They sometimes serve there young ladies ... So I flew in to visit. Suddenly he again lies, sunbathes where on the deck. repeat
      And nothing seditious.
    2. Cowbra
      Cowbra 1 February 2021 14: 22
      +3
      Quote: volodimer
      Did I understand correctly that this is a DP without disks?

      Strongly confused by the front sight on the barrel, and not on the casing. So it's unlikely. Well, with such clarity - take it apart, even the brand will do, you can't see anything:

      Moreover, the cutout for the store is visible at the far left. Although Bren has a front sight on the left. and these like on top
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 1 February 2021 14: 55
        +1
        Yes, I understand that the source is weak in quality. And Bren looks like.
        After digging the Internet, I found that on the basis of the Czech ZB-26-prototype of Bren, Degtyarev created his DPM-36. All three are very similar. And since the participants of the parade were armed with "whatever they have to". There are also "Lewis" and "Arisaki" ... There are only about 2 dozen of them in the frames ... For "Lewis" cartridges were found, and for these, the issue was also decided.
        Thanks for the help!
    3. sifgame
      sifgame 1 February 2021 15: 01
      0
      Two fighters from left to right have PTRS, the store is clearly visible, the butt is unfastened. PTRD single-shot. It's written under the video.
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 1 February 2021 15: 05
        0
        No ... I did not remove the caption under the video on purpose, so that it would be clear where the frame came from.
        1. volodimer
          volodimer 1 February 2021 15: 08
          0
          PTRS simply does not exist ...
      2. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 1 February 2021 20: 27
        0
        Two fighters from left to right have PTRS, ..... do not carry nonsense ... PTRS have a length of 2 meters and the butt does not unfasten, and carry 20 kg on one shoulder ..... I yell at you
    4. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 1 February 2021 20: 17
      0
      I correctly understood that this is a DP without disks? ... not correctly ... these are "lights". SVT ... or maybe ABC which is unlikely ... the picture is blurry ... but definitely not DP
  • iouris
    iouris 1 February 2021 14: 18
    -12%
    You can clearly see how vulnerable the Su-24 is.
    1. nPuBaTuP
      nPuBaTuP 1 February 2021 15: 28
      +3
      How can you see it?
      Share ...
      1. Outsider
        Outsider 2 February 2021 00: 09
        -4
        - Only political considerations prevent him from being brought down. And from the military-technological point of view, the Su-24 is a target in the shooting range.
        1. nPuBaTuP
          nPuBaTuP 2 February 2021 06: 34
          +1
          I think that Cook is also a target in the ground ... is not it?
          And for the su-24 and for the bastions and other weapons ...
          1. Outsider
            Outsider 2 February 2021 09: 47
            -3
            - No, no, he's a very tough nut to crack. Highly. He will fight back.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 1 February 2021 14: 54
    -1
    laughing Those with "Cook" just look and feel "Su-24 syndrome".
    1. nPuBaTuP
      nPuBaTuP 2 February 2021 06: 37
      0
      And it would still be valid if the flight was made by the same plane as the last time it was ..... Massive deja vu laughing
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 1 February 2021 15: 22
    -2
    The publication Task and Purpose writes that this is not the first "meeting" of a US Navy destroyer and a Russian plane, which journalists attributed to front-line bombers.

    Indeed, not the first. That he was frequenting the water area, "Hunter"?
    At the same time, it was previously reported that over the Black Sea was used another version Su-24.

    I also have another version (event interpretation). True, she is for (18+) lol
  • smaug78
    smaug78 1 February 2021 15: 27
    -2
    The version of delirium from foreign publications laughing Hurray-patriots have already broken 3 boyans laughing
  • Just a Traveler
    Just a Traveler 1 February 2021 15: 40
    -7
    And when this flying clownery is over .... they only burn people's kerosene in vain.
    1. Outsider
      Outsider 2 February 2021 00: 01
      -1
      - They do not fly on their own - this is a team from the very top.
    2. onstar9
      onstar9 3 February 2021 05: 09
      0
      Quote: Just a Traveler
      And when this flying clownery is over .... they only burn people's kerosene in vain.

      Gasoline Vovin, can burn as much as he wants ... The people of Russia have nothing ...
  • rotfuks
    rotfuks 1 February 2021 15: 47
    -1
    I realized that the destroyer Donald Cook is a whipping boy.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 1 February 2021 16: 08
      +1
      Quote: rotfuks
      I realized that the destroyer Donald Cook is a whipping boy.

      Wai, daragoy! What a boy - twenty-four years! wassat
    2. Bez 310
      Bez 310 1 February 2021 16: 47
      0
      Quote: rotfuks
      destroyer Donald Cook is a whipping boy

      No, it's not like that!
      This destroyer has such air defense systems that
      no Su-24 will fly close to it, well,
      in a combat situation.
      And now the destroyer gives you the opportunity to frolic
      Su-24-mu, which, by the way, cannot harm
      destroyer, since it does not have an anti-ship
      weapons.
      That's it...
      1. Alexander Seklitsky
        Alexander Seklitsky 1 February 2021 18: 12
        +2
        Quote: Bez 310
        in a combat situation.

        So in a combat situation and the plane does not need to fly close. And the destroyer alone will quickly sink in such situations and will not save the air defense. So comrade "navigator" is not yet clear who allows whom to frolic and to portray the stormy activity.
        1. Bez 310
          Bez 310 1 February 2021 18: 38
          -1
          Quote: Alexander Seklitsky
          Yes, and the destroyer alone will quickly sink

          You didn't understand anything!
          Su-24 does not know how to work on a ship.
          But you can object and argue ...
          I won't.
          1. Alexander Seklitsky
            Alexander Seklitsky 1 February 2021 18: 48
            +2
            And I didn’t mean that the destroyer would be hit only by means of su 24. I meant that it is not known who and to whom is giving frolic in the current situation. And it is incorrect to attribute a clear victory to anyone. request
          2. Crimean partisan 1974
            Crimean partisan 1974 1 February 2021 20: 44
            0
            Su-24 does not know how to work on a ship .... oh yes. that is, the X-28 and X-58 do not have the main armament of the Su-24 ...... navigator. Where did you come from ..... the Amerminian did not show aggression and the Su-24 also ... greeted each other and that's it ... business then ... it will come mochilovo .. that's when ..... 24 will be profitable position
            1. Bez 310
              Bez 310 1 February 2021 20: 58
              0
              Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
              Su-24 does not know how to work on a ship .... oh yes. that is, the X-28 and X-58 do not have the main armament of the Su-24 ...... navigator. Where are you from ...

              I fell out of the MRA.
              And the Su-24 does not work on ships, it simply has nothing.
              But you can continue to argue, I do not bother you
              I will.
              1. Crimean partisan 1974
                Crimean partisan 1974 1 February 2021 21: 03
                0
                And the Su-24 does not work on ships, ... and the X-58 does not work on ships. ... the X-58 works on the radar ... and what is a warship without a radar ... prala ... nothing ... like at the moment everything and everything is a great golden iron
              2. alekszeit
                alekszeit 2 February 2021 13: 49
                0
                and you go to the branch of naval aviation at the air forum, they will tell you what and on what can work.
      2. timokhin-aa
        timokhin-aa 2 February 2021 15: 28
        0
        But from a professional point of view, can you comment on the situation - "a group attack of the Su-24 with PRR on a single destroyer"? Without the help of other forces and means, Burke is limited by the physics of radio wave propagation, like any other ship. Due to the atmospheric refraction of radio waves, his radar is detected from a very large distance, from more than he himself can notice a low-altitude target.
        For a single EM, the fire performance of the SAM is 1 SAM in 2 sec.

        In theory, with competent reconnaissance, the presence of PRR, and a sufficient outfit of forces, it is possible to destroy the Arleigh Burke with the help of the Su-24. Not without losses, of course.
      3. onstar9
        onstar9 3 February 2021 05: 10
        -2
        Quote: Bez 310
        This destroyer has such air defense systems that
        no Su-24 will fly close to it, well,
        in a combat situation.
        And now the destroyer gives you the opportunity to frolic
        Su-24-mu, which, by the way, cannot harm
        destroyer, since it does not have an anti-ship
        weapons.
        That's it...

        Can ram ... If Vova orders ...
  • VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 1 February 2021 19: 28
    +5
    This is not our plane flying past an American destroyer. This is an American destroyer passing our plane flying peacefully laughing tongue
    1. Kushka
      Kushka 1 February 2021 19: 46
      +2
      And what, on VO there are no guys who went to the BS in
      Mediterranean in the 70s. They remember how Americans
      almost clinging to the mast above us they shaved,
      clicking the shutters of the cameras. Wherein
      "dropped" the Marlboro blocks on the deck and
      porn magazines. The show was up to those
      until the "Wasp" dived into the mine and flew
      from there with two rockets on rails with
      aiming at the target. Here they were blown away.
      1. alekszeit
        alekszeit 2 February 2021 13: 59
        0
        turntables flew close, it is problematic to throw a magazine onto the deck from the plane)
        1. Kushka
          Kushka 2 February 2021 15: 24
          +1
          As you know, with any kind of combat alert,
          on a combat course, when the radar station is working ("Angara" for example)
          on the same 61 projects on the deck there is not a single live
          souls and everything is battened down. And yet the task of the political instructors was
          even that - God forbid, they will take off the top "a lot of things"
          sailors. Everything dropped disappeared without a trace.
          And yet, I didn't have to see the turntables, even ours
          "Kiev" and "Moscow" were already there, but I hardly found them.
          1. alekszeit
            alekszeit 13 February 2021 12: 16
            0
            I saw a video of our Ka27 flying close along the sides, I don't know who, Americans or Britons. But so that over the ship itself ... although there was a bike on the MA forum about the captain who fired a rocket launcher at an annoying guest)
            1. Kushka
              Kushka 13 February 2021 18: 39
              +1
              I served in the 70s - the height of events in the Red Sea and
              Suez Canal. Bunker in Alexandria and
              Conakry. At that time, BS was carried by fleets in Mediterranean
              in turn - SF, BF, Black Sea Fleet - some saw one thing, others
              other. But the bike went then and is still alive
              that someone has failed Phantom. I didn't see it myself, lie
              I will not. And here is a photo of Phantoms with open doors
              cameras just a few meters above the mast in
              the network is full. Maybe in truth one of ours freaked out.
              A bike from this "someone" makes a hero, but the ship is launched
              SAM, it's not from the service Makarov to fire - management
              The ship's air defense is a well-coordinated teamwork, and the launch
              this is the commander's TEAM!
              1. alekszeit
                alekszeit 14 February 2021 01: 21
                0
                you do not understand, he fired a signal rocket) It will be difficult for me to find, there are hundreds of pages of text, but it is very curious to read.
      2. onstar9
        onstar9 3 February 2021 05: 14
        -1
        Quote: Kushka
        And what, on VO there are no guys who went to the BS in
        Mediterranean in the 70s. They remember how Americans
        almost clinging to the mast above us they shaved,
        clicking the shutters of the cameras. Wherein
        "dropped" the Marlboro blocks on the deck and
        porn magazines. The show was up to those
        until the "Wasp" dived into the mine and flew
        from there with two rockets on rails with
        aiming at the target. Here they were blown away.

        And why did they "dive into the mine", were they such fools, or what? They had Marlboro blocks and porno magazines, and they had their "rockets" ... Yes, the whole Soviet ship was not worth two Marlboro blocks there ...
        1. Kushka
          Kushka 3 February 2021 14: 27
          0
          You probably have not seen how the Osa M air defense system
          rechargeable.
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    1. alekszeit
      alekszeit 2 February 2021 13: 52
      -1
      firstly, it was a scout and his goal was to find an aircraft carrier group and he found it. And they flew in pairs, and in general, in those years, planes disappeared from both sides.
  • Outsider
    Outsider 2 February 2021 00: 04
    -2
    - If desired, the destroyer's air defense could overwhelm all the Su-24/34/35 for as many kilometers from the ship, as soon as they appear from behind the radio horizon. There was no team ...
    1. alekszeit
      alekszeit 2 February 2021 13: 55
      -1
      one trouble, aviation does not enter the affected area and work in groups, like wolves.
      1. smaug78
        smaug78 2 February 2021 14: 53
        0
        one trouble, aviation does not enter the affected area and work in groups, like wolves.
        What are you saying?
        1. alekszeit
          alekszeit 13 February 2021 12: 06
          0
          yes, imagine. There is a forum where former pilots of naval aviation gather, read it for the benefit of general development
  • Outsider
    Outsider 2 February 2021 00: 05
    -4
    Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
    And the Su-24 does not work on ships, ... and the X-58 does not work on ships. ... the X-58 works on the radar ... and what is a warship without a radar ... prala ... nothing ... like at the moment everything and everything is a great golden iron

    - There's a whole bunch of radars ...
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  • Outsider
    Outsider 2 February 2021 15: 32
    -1
    Quote: alekszeit
    one trouble, aviation does not enter the affected area and work in groups, like wolves.

    - He has an affected area - 250 km at high altitudes. As the altitude decreases and, accordingly, the radio horizon decreases, the far border of the affected area decreases.
    And if the missiles are launched from a range greater than 250 km, the ship will shoot down the missiles ...
  • Outsider
    Outsider 2 February 2021 15: 45
    -1
    There was no "duel" there and could not be ...
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 3 February 2021 04: 19
    0
    Remember !!! - this is already good, "safety and stabilizers" from the devil !!!
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  • smaug78
    smaug78 13 February 2021 12: 43
    0
    Quote: alekszeit
    yes, imagine. There is a forum where former pilots of naval aviation gather, read it for the benefit of general development

    so talk about Kuku and a single Su-24 ... But you go on ... Cookies go as part of the AUG and not one by one. Read more about the organization of the AUG order, Hokai, etc. Compare the radar range and other little things ...