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Chinese expert predicted the United States "extinction according to the British version"

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An interview with a Chinese expert was published in the German press. It concerned the geopolitical situation in the world. Dean of the Foreign Policy Department of the Beijing Institute of International Relations (belongs to Tsinghua University), political scientist Yan Xuetong shared his views with the journalists of Der Spiegel.

According to the Chinese expert, the United States of America "will continue to decline." Yan Xuetong predicts the collapse of the British Empire in this regard. He believes that the United States will follow approximately the same path.

Yan Xuetong:

There will be no instantaneous decay and extinction. But it may be that at one time was observed in Britain. The empire gradually collapsed, previously being the strongest and most powerful world power. The process of extinction and decay continued for decades.

The dean of the Chinese Institute of International Relations noted that there is nothing supernatural in this, "since all empires are destroyed sooner or later." Yan Xuetong notes that every empire has three stages of its life cycle: after formation and dawn (in military, cultural and other terms), stagnation begins, stagnation, and then decay begins.

At the same time, nothing was said in the interview about whether China is ready to take advantage of this situation to become the sole leader, or whether it will build a multipolar system.
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  1. figwam
    figwam 1 February 2021 06: 37
    +6
    The United States of America "will continue to decline"

    They deserve it.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 1 February 2021 06: 44
      0
      Quote: figvam
      The United States of America "will continue to decline"

      They deserve it.

      For the evil that they have done and are doing around the world
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 1 February 2021 07: 27
        +2
        There will be no instantaneous decay and extinction. But it may be that at one time was observed in Britain. The empire gradually collapsed, previously being the strongest and most powerful world power. The process of extinction and decay continued for decades.

        It only remains to add that the process of the collapse of the empire was accelerated a thousandfold by WWII, when part of the territories and military bases, of which some were lost by Britain primarily due to the invasion of Japan, and then were ceded to the United States as payment for aid under the Lend-Lease ...

        And then, after the end of WWII, a period of national liberation wars began in the remaining colonies, which finally determined the collapse of the colonial empire.

        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 1 February 2021 07: 54
          +1
          And a little about the former British colony, in which a military coup took place early this morning - Myanmar .
          The military seized power, arresting the president and the leader of the ruling party, and then declared a state of emergency for a year.



          Do not be embarrassed by the photo from the BTR-82A of the Burmese army, this is only the fruit of the military-technical cooperation of the Russian Federation and Myanmar.
          Chinese technology is also widely represented there, given that the countries are neighbors and have a common long border.
          And as a result, there is a wave of attacks on social networks that China is behind the coup ...
        2. iouris
          iouris 1 February 2021 10: 06
          +1
          WWII is a continuation of WWII. WWI and WWII are designed to destroy the old world order based on the division of the world and the colonial conquests of "Old Europe". The main anti-colonial force was the US monopolies, which later turned into TNCs. The US state (as well as Nazi Germany, as well as Japan, Italy, and the USSR) are tools for destroying the power of the "old" empires, of which the British Empire remained the most powerful and influential after WWI.
          From the very beginning of the XNUMXth century, the United States developed a "national" policy of expansion towards the largest market - China. Therefore - the Philippines. Therefore - Japan. It is China that is the main prize of the United States in the XNUMXth century.
          At the present stage, TNCs based on the United States have achieved such power and influence that they are no longer interested in the state as such (in any), therefore, according to the new plan, (national) states (including the United States) will "fade away".
          Thus, it is possible that the Chinese expert misunderstands something or adheres to the approved (for the broad masses) propaganda line.
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 2 February 2021 20: 36
            +1
            What? Quite a possible forecast!
      2. Boris55
        Boris55 1 February 2021 08: 57
        -1
        Quote: Lipchanin
        For the evil that they have done and are doing around the world

        If you ask the "experts" what is geopolitics ?, then from each we will get our own long monologue, it is not clear what about.

        There are three types of politics in the world:
        - internalconducted by power in relation to its citizens;
        - externalheld by the authorities in relation to citizens of other states.
        - globalheld by power in relation to all citizens of the world.
        (can you just give a brief definition of the term geopolitics?)

        At the moment, the ability to pursue global politics is possessed by: Russia, China, the United States.

        Behind the term geopolitics trying to hide global politics, so that it would not be clear what is actually happening in the world.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 1 February 2021 11: 33
          +1
          Quote: Boris55
          There are three types of politics in the world:
          - internal, conducted by the authorities in relation to their citizens;
          - external, conducted by the authorities in relation to citizens of other states.
          - global, held by the authorities in relation to all citizens of the world.
          (can you just give a brief definition of the term geopolitics?)
          As for me, this is not true. It will not work very briefly, because everything comes from one root that you have not mentioned - Public policy.
          Internal + External = State policy, which is carried out in the interests of its citizens and business under the protection of the state. When they are balanced, citizens and business are the backbone of the state, because. it is they who are the source of the formation of the army and the replenishment of the treasury, and the state protects their interests, which are not limited by the borders of the state and go beyond its limits, i.e. the interests of citizens and the state become interdependent and require protection both in their region and in neighboring countries, that is, they form the factors of Geopolitics, which consist in the involvement of these countries in their zone of influence through alliances, blocs (military, economic, etc.) Geopolitical interests states can expand until they collide with the geopolitical interests of another state. When at the junction of interests there is no possibility of further expansion, then the factor of Globalism appears, i.e. absorption of a competitor by pulling him into the orbit of his influence, or his elimination (all methods are good here) with the subsequent absorption of his resources. The trouble is that at a certain stage, there is a failure in State policy, when Foreign policy is torn off from Domestic policy, which results in a deterioration in the situation of citizens and business, which are the backbone of the state. The state turns into a Colossus with feet of clay. The same is now observed in the United States, where a split has clearly emerged, both between citizens and between citizens and the state. The same is outlined in Russia as well. with some foreign policy successes, there are obvious domestic political failures. As a result of such an imbalance, the USSR collapsed, when citizens almost indifferently accepted the fact of the collapse and dispersed to their national apartments, nullifying foreign policy efforts and geopolitical achievements with a claim of influence on a global scale.
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 3 February 2021 08: 14
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            Quote: Nyrobsky
            As for me, this is not true. It will not work very briefly, because everything comes from one root that you have not mentioned - Public policy.

            When I had already written the definitions, I thought that in the definitions instead of “power” it was necessary to write “state”, at least in brackets. The state personifies power. There is no power, no state. So government policy is domestic, foreign and global. There is no other. Global policy in terms of the power of impact on society is higher than external, and external is higher than internal.

            As I expected, everyone understands geopolitics in his own way, and if there is no single concept, then with such a people you can do whatever you want - to support those whose concepts coincide and spread rot ...
        2. businessv
          businessv 2 February 2021 21: 22
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          Quote: Boris55
          (can you just give a brief definition of the term geopolitics?)
          The art of fighting for influence in the world. The methods are different - economic, informational and military.
      3. The eye of the crying
        The eye of the crying 1 February 2021 23: 35
        -2
        And remind you that the USA was kindled there in France and Kazakhstan.
  2. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 1 February 2021 06: 51
    +3
    According to the Chinese expert, the United States of America "will continue to decline." Yan Xuetong predicts in this regard the option with the collapse of the British Empire
    Suppose the metropolis of Britain has not gone anywhere and has not collapsed in any way, and now USA is almost all the metropolis, here you have to shake the boat very strongly to "collapse".
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 1 February 2021 07: 30
      +5
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      According to the Chinese expert, the United States of America "will continue to decline." Yan Xuetong predicts in this regard the option with the collapse of the British Empire
      Suppose the metropolis of Britain has not gone anywhere and has not collapsed in any way, and now USA is almost all the metropolis, here you have to shake the boat very strongly to "collapse".

      Well, let's say, over Britain quite recently, by historical standards, just yesterday, also "the sun never set." And before that, all of Europe was under Hitler's "imperial rule". Even earlier - Austria-Hungary, the Ottoman Empire. And the greats are Spain, Portugal. Before them - the Great Alexander with an empire for half the world, the Mongols, the Romans who own half of the known world, the Egyptians who built the pyramids ...
      Where are they all? And what is the reason that instead of the great, for example, “great Austria-Hungary” now only Austria and Hungary, and the Spaniards with the Portuguese, except football, do not know how to do anything else?

      All empires in history are ruined by one thing - the desire for world domination.

      Russia has never sought to own the world, therefore, after another devastation, it ALWAYS revived like a Phoenix bird. China also periodically rose - one of these moments we see now. Russia and China have never sought to rule the world. That is why we are, and the Egyptians no longer build pyramids. Yes, there was an expansion of the "outlying lands". And we had Yermak Timofeevich and Siberia, and in China Shi Huandi. But "to own the world" - never.

      Perhaps even our children will not see how the next "great Austria-Hungary" will become the next "Austria" and "Hungary". Perhaps, as with the colonial system or the USSR, it will collapse at once. But America will surely collapse. Because this is the fate of any self-appointed "masters of the world." And America fits perfectly into this "historical practice." Process start started ...

      I wonder why America and some of us think that no one succeeded, but America will be lucky? And she will be eternal eternity "exclusive" and "mistress of the world" ...
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 1 February 2021 07: 39
        0
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Russia never aspired to own the world,

        And never had any colonies
        Igor hi
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 1 February 2021 08: 58
          +3
          Sergey, hi !
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Russia never aspired to own the world,

          And never had any colonies

          It is unlikely that the socialist camp can be called "occupied territories" or "colonies." How much the same Britain or Spain pumped out of the colonies. And what did we have from that socialist camp? "Icarus"? Bulgarian cigarettes made from Uzbek tobacco? Polish ships built at the shipyard in Gdansk, which we built? Although they could have built it on the same Black Sea.
          They only built, built and built ...
          And all over the world - it was worth some cannibal to declare that he embarked on the "socialist path of development" and money flowed like a river. Is this colonial policy? What has Spain built in America, apart from the "casa" for its vice-governors and barracks for the soldiers? The two best and only normal buildings for any city under Spanish rule. And Britain didn't even build that in India ...

          America is building in its present colonies. But only what the American corporations need, which are robbing these colonies. Well, the "barracks" are military bases, respectively ... And then in the Baltic States and in Poland in Soviet military towns they live and take off from the Soviet runways - they saved ...
        2. The eye of the crying
          The eye of the crying 1 February 2021 23: 44
          -1
          Quote: Lipchanin
          And never had any colonies


          Alaska doesn't count?
      2. The eye of the crying
        The eye of the crying 1 February 2021 23: 42
        -1
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        we are, and the Egyptians no longer build pyramids.


        Russia - say, 500 years (actually less, but let it be). This is how many Egyptian New Kingdom existed (and there were also the Middle and Old Kingdoms). So do not turn up your nose in front of the Egyptians (real, not present).

        Quote: Zoldat_A
        America will surely collapse


        Yes, we will all die.
      3. onstar9
        onstar9 3 February 2021 04: 35
        -1
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        I wonder why America and some of us think that no one succeeded, but America will be lucky? And she will be eternal eternity "exclusive" and "mistress of the world" ...

        In my opinion, now it is China that thinks that "no one has succeeded, but we will succeed" ... The United States will soon "collapse", and China will flourish ... and take over the world. Including Russia, darlings ...
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 February 2021 06: 51
    +3
    There will be no instantaneous decay and extinction. But it may be what was at one time observed in Britain. The empire gradually collapsed
    Of course, one should not expect a one-time disintegration, but there are all the prerequisites for a gradual disintegration. The democrats themselves, with their own hands, are pushing the country into the cesspool of kneeling before the blacks, the destruction of all moral foundations, repressions against dissent, etc., etc. And this, in the end, will obviously not lead to the strengthening of the country.
    the interview did not say anything about whether China is ready to take advantage of this situation
    And when did China loudly announce, especially to the Western media, its plans in foreign policy?
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 1 February 2021 07: 40
      -1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The democrats themselves, with their own hands, are pushing the country into the cesspool of kneeling before the black, the destruction of all moral foundations,

      And the southern states don't like it
    2. onstar9
      onstar9 3 February 2021 04: 36
      -1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      And when did China loudly announce, especially to the Western media, its plans in foreign policy?

      Yes, they constantly say that they will become "the new leader of the World" ....
  4. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 1 February 2021 06: 51
    +1
    For China, 300 million of the population is not a number! Right, maybe even earlier the fins will stick together! Will they be in time in 10 years?
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 1 February 2021 09: 11
      -1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      For China, 300 million people are not a number!

      When "dear Leonid Ilyich", during his visit to China, at the talks, first of all expressed condolences to the Chinese on ten thousand killed during the recent earthquake, they, the Chinese, completely sincerely did not understand what he was talking about ...

      If the Chinese cross the Russian-Chinese border at a speed of 100 people per second, they will walk continuously for almost six months ...
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 1 February 2021 10: 00
        +2
        And if by sea to America, a million a day! Dear Leonid Ilyich never went to China! Father Mao did not let him in!
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 1 February 2021 10: 24
          +1
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Dear Leonid Ilyich never went to China

          Mil pardon! I heard - did not check. I sprinkle ashes on my head ..

          Those were the negotiations of our delegation on the settlement of border conflicts in 1969. And not 10, but 12 thousand died.
  5. Ros 56
    Ros 56 1 February 2021 07: 06
    +2
    But this Chinese man didn't say something, but how long will it take? And which of us will live to test this theory? fellow request
  6. Revolver
    Revolver 1 February 2021 07: 14
    0
    Generations of Russians are born, live, and die in anticipation of the dollar and America on the verge of collapse. Now the Chinese have also joined the waiting.
    1. HAM
      HAM 1 February 2021 08: 02
      +3
      And how many generations have changed, if not a secret? The history of the states themselves does not include a year of Chinese or Russian ...
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 1 February 2021 09: 20
      0
      Quote: Nagan
      Generations of Russians are born, live, and die in anticipation of what the dollar and America are about to collapse.

      Well, let's say the life of even one generation has not passed since we began to think about the dollar exchange rate - even less than 30 years. Thirty years are not "generations of Russians", you know ...

      And America itself ... Yes, pill, me personally, saliva on that America! Let them live, let them eat their hamburgers, get fat on. Previously, blacks were hung - now let the whites be hung. Sip on her! Just let her do HER business, not OUR ...
    3. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 1 February 2021 10: 08
      0
      You only blacks to power do not let the Bardak of Abama flowers!
  7. Egoza
    Egoza 1 February 2021 07: 56
    +1
    Something fade away for a long time. The Chinese could help them! There they have a large diaspora, they could have dealt with the extinction.
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 1 February 2021 08: 01
    0
    Chinese expert predicted the United States "extinction according to the British version"

    Forecasts, forecasts, everything depends on the management !!! because society itself does not manage anything, does not create anything, they lead it like a bull on a chain ... and where they lead, the "bull" does not think from definition, AT ALL!
  9. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 1 February 2021 08: 14
    +2
    any development options are possible ... it all depends on the course of the ruling elites ... BUT so far the whole big WORLD accepts their candy wrappers as a means of payment (and they take inflation on themselves too) ... and the printing press is not restrained by anything (perhaps except for delivery components and paper) they will be afloat for a long time ...
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 1 February 2021 08: 43
      +1
      I agree .. a quick collapse is possible only if the "owner of the machine" decides, for example, to make the cryptodollar the main one, although .. they still need the power component to crush those who disagree in the world .. so, for now, for the "owners of the world financial system" the replacement of the United States is not will, will support it by shifting the content of the wrappers to the rest of the world ..
  10. aszzz888
    aszzz888 1 February 2021 08: 43
    0
    Yan Xuetong notes that every empire has three stages of its life cycle: after formation and dawn (in military, cultural and other terms), stagnation begins, stagnation, and then decay begins.
    Everything is classic. Therefore, merikiatosia is no exception - there will be a kirdyk for her.
    1. silberwolf88
      silberwolf88 1 February 2021 22: 34
      0
      Better still, according to Gumilev ... he allows the development of different phases up to 1500 years ... there it is far from the obscuration phase ... and there are no special prerequisites ...
  11. askort154
    askort154 1 February 2021 08: 48
    +1
    There will be no instantaneous decay and extinction.

    There is an acceleration option. Throw Russian-Chinese special forces in the United States and blow up the printing press. yes
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 1 February 2021 09: 33
      -1
      Quote: askort154
      and blow up the printing press.

      How bloodthirsty you are though. Can't you just turn on your own? laughing
  12. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 1 February 2021 09: 09
    -1
    The "British option" needs an adversary who takes away influence. China? So Britain was overstrained then, and she was categorically short of troops. The US troops have darkness. And if what the Chinese differ in is, to put it mildly, not in high fighting qualities. They can't pull such an opponent ...
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 1 February 2021 09: 30
      0
      Quote: Mikhail3
      And if what the Chinese differ in is, to put it mildly, not in high fighting qualities.

      Information and manipulation with it are more destructive than wars.
      As an example:
      The USSR was destroyed not by nuclear bombs, but by information.
      Trump won with information, and he lost with it.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 1 February 2021 12: 56
        -1
        Dreams of underloaded admins? Hehe ... No, the information, as you imagine it, does not matter. And the USSR did not collapse, it was brought down by its own commanders and chiefs, shaking with greed and drowning in stupidity. One of the decisive factors was that the aging elite, and its active and active basis, equally ceased to understand what scientists and experts were telling them. Grandfathers by age, inferior to a lesser rank because they were no longer specialists and intellectuals, but simply a cunning, vile, power-hungry to insanity mass, who got to the heights of power not with the help of intellect and knowledge.
        You shouldn't be confusing information with psychoactive influence. You can't get your mind like that ...
  13. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 1 February 2021 10: 33
    -1
    The extinction of the United States will not automatically erase from them nuclear weapons, a powerful navy, and a large well-armed army. what about it? Extinction can pull others with it, or even the world into even greater chaos.
    But, frankly, it's time for them to calm down!
    Everything points to this: the drop in the level of intelligence, experience and competencies in diplomacy, and the bringing by the American old men in Congress and the oligarchs of the country to a split, and the return of Psaki to the kennel, and the inability to wage the war as it was before (we have not fought for 4 years) ...
  14. bad
    bad 1 February 2021 12: 57
    +18
    every empire has three stages of its life cycle: after the formation and dawn (in military, cultural and other terms), stagnation begins, stagnation, and then decay begins

    This means that you do not need to become an empire. You can remain a stable state
  15. A_Lex
    A_Lex 1 February 2021 13: 47
    0
    There will be no instantaneous decay and extinction. But it may be what was at one time observed in Britain.


    People make predictions about the development of the future based on well-known events that happened in the past, seriously believing that future events will develop what is called "by analogy." This is why predictions tend to fail.
  16. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 1 February 2021 14: 34
    -1
    These words are being brought to life in the very heart of the United States - in the White House.
  17. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 1 February 2021 15: 02
    0
    Quote: Zoldat_A
    Sergey, hi !
    Quote: Lipchanin
    Quote: Zoldat_A
    Russia never aspired to own the world,

    And never had any colonies

    It is unlikely that the socialist camp can be called "occupied territories" or "colonies." How much the same Britain or Spain pumped out of the colonies. And what did we have from that socialist camp? "Icarus"? Bulgarian cigarettes made from Uzbek tobacco? Polish ships built at the shipyard in Gdansk, which we built? Although they could have built it on the same Black Sea.
    They only built, built and built ...
    And all over the world - it was worth some cannibal to declare that he embarked on the "socialist path of development" and money flowed like a river. Is this colonial policy? What has Spain built in America, apart from the "casa" for its vice-governors and barracks for the soldiers? The two best and only normal buildings for any city under Spanish rule. And Britain didn't even build that in India ...

    America is building in its present colonies. But only what the American corporations need, which are robbing these colonies. Well, the "barracks" are military bases, respectively ... And then in the Baltic States and in Poland in Soviet military towns they live and take off from the Soviet runways - they saved ...

    I will be very brief. Watching the convulsions of "our smaller brothers", how they despise us a lot and make "pee-pee" on us, prompted by our historical enemies and foes. I came to the conclusion that it was time to end with the ostrich policy of the name of the cat Leopold. Why are we toothlessly chattering with the Czech Republics and other polands, Romanians and some sort of Bulgarians.  
  18. Jaromir
    Jaromir 1 February 2021 16: 27
    +1
    Chinese expert predicted the United States "extinction according to the British version"

    And so it will be. The USA is, in my opinion, at the beginning of its "extinction". How long will it take request I think it all depends on the internal processes in the states themselves.
  19. NF68
    NF68 1 February 2021 17: 30
    0
    How much rope does not twist. Perhaps someday the United States will get what it has long deserved.
  20. The eye of the crying
    The eye of the crying 1 February 2021 23: 30
    0
    How many times is the United States larger than the British metropolis - 5 times? Yeah, wait. Precisely according to the British version, yeah.
  21. FrankyStein
    FrankyStein 1 February 2021 23: 57
    0
    Something is not noticeable any extinction, the Chinese wishful thinking. Technologically, they move the fastest, which leads to the creation of new companies, services, goods, the population is growing by 2 miles a year, if I'm not mistaken, China will catch up with it. And in the Russian Federation there is an outflow of the population as in the 90s, and its replacement by Central Asians.
  22. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 7 February 2021 18: 43
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    ***
    "Goodbye America" ​​?...
    ***