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"The enemy overhears": about warnings and instructions on the body of the radio station R-105D

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"Voennoye Obozreniye" opens the section "Museum Exhibit". It is planned to present small stories about weapons, military equipment, dual-use equipment, which today, if used somewhere, then, perhaps, in the form of elements of museum expositions. At the same time, the heading is planned to talk about any specific features of the "exhibit".


Today's issue of the "VO" section devotes information on the body of the famous "stack" (R-105D) - a radio station that was used in Soviet times - since 1952.

"Attention! The enemy is eavesdropping. " This inscription, executed in red on the rear panel of the army radio station R-105 (R-105D) of the company radio network, warned the Soviet soldier that data transmission over the radio channel could be unsafe.

"The enemy overhears": about warnings and instructions on the body of the radio station R-105D

On the inside of the back cover of the "stack" on a metal plate was a very detailed instruction, which was referred to as "Operation of the radio station".

More details about this instruction. What exactly did the serviceman learn from the text and graphics, which they decided to present directly on the case cover?

To begin with, it was a scheme for deploying and turning on the antenna, including those with a horizontal arrangement and an increased suspension of the beam antenna.

The composition of the complex itself is a receiver (aka transmitter), a whip antenna ASh-1,5, a beam antenna, a headset (microphone-telephone), a battery, and carrying straps R-105D.

The use of the R-105D on the move and in a stationary position was noted. In the first case, the directive stated the use of only a flexible cord, in the parking lot - the need to add four sections with the connection of a counterweight.

The provided communication range is 3-5 km with a transmitter output power of 1 W.

To get started, it was necessary to turn on the headset chip and set the required frequency.


The scale was fixed with a special handle "Scale Stopper". The use of a calibrator was prescribed to set the frequency at night.


After that, the power was turned on. The serviceman had to wait for the appearance of noise in the headset. In this case, the "Remote control and relay" toggle switch had to be in the OFF mode.

The next step of the work was the step of setting up the transmitter. To do this, it was necessary to press a button on the headset, and then achieve the maximum deviation of the arrow of the device using the "Antenna settings" toggle switch. Then the button on the headset had to be released and “put on the phones”.

Only after that did the serviceman have to get in touch. At the same time, it was called "contacting a correspondent." When transmitting data, it was necessary to act, as they would say now, in the format of a walkie-talkie, namely, holding the button and speaking into the microphone. The button was released while waiting for a response. To reduce the level of interference, the instruction prescribed to turn off the "AFC-current ant" toggle switch.

The soldier was additionally informed that the R-105D radio station should be behind his back when moving. Technology has since stepped up ...


Also in the instruction there were five provisions on the work from the taken out point. The first is to connect the telephone to the “Line” and “Counterweight” clamps. The second position is the inclusion of the headset in the corresponding chip on the knapsack of the radio station. The third is to call the operator using the switch to the position of the same name - "Call". Fourth - for negotiations with the telephone operator, the toggle switch is switched to the "Service Line" mode. Fifth - using the position "Dist. Control. " with remote control.

For retransmission, it was prescribed to connect the "Line" and "Counterbalance" clamps to each other.

It should be added that the working set of the radio station weighed 21 kg, but the complete set with a stowage box reached 46 kg.
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  1. paco.soto
    paco.soto 31 January 2021 20: 07
    +23
    Wiping an old tear with my beard: thank you for the article. There will be something to remember, nostalgic, just in case.
    1. 27091965
      27091965 31 January 2021 20: 42
      +12
      Quote: paco.soto
      There will be something to remember - nostalgic.

      I think not only for you, many of us have shaken her.
      1. businessv
        businessv 31 January 2021 21: 04
        +6
        Quote: 27091965i
        I think not only for you, many of us have shaken her.

        They not only dragged, but also caught the enemy Voices! wink
        1. Gato
          Gato 31 January 2021 23: 52
          +12
          enemy Voices caught!

          Gee, you can't catch many voices on VHF. For this purpose, there was an epic HF receiver P-311, especially converted for SSB reception. To have one for a former radio operator is like a Mauser for a former security officer. laughing
          1. businessv
            businessv 1 February 2021 12: 27
            +2
            Quote: Gato
            Gee, you can't catch many voices on VHF.

            In the Kaliningrad region, this was the norm! wink Enemy muzzles worked, they did not spare money! fellow
          2. konstantin68
            konstantin68 2 February 2021 17: 49
            0
            Enemy voices were well caught at station 123 laughing
          3. Mikhalych
            Mikhalych 4 February 2021 09: 36
            0
            epic HF receiver R-311
            ... I am in the Separate Rzazvedbat YUGV, Sekeshfehervar in 1969-1971. was a senior radio master. I connected the amplifier of the 311RT tank radio station to the R-10 output (it has been preserved since the Second World War). She took excellent voices of the enemy. And I also remember the station R-105D. They were changed to R-105M with rod lamps.
          4. zenion
            zenion 5 February 2021 21: 45
            -1
            Gato (Sergey). When de mobilized, they wanted to give me such a receiver as a keepsake. I refused right away. But better than him, even though he was small, better was the "Kit" receiver with automatic combing along the waves. He weighed a good pood, but he even caught what was not. If he came across something, he gave a signal - you want to see it, listen. He stood in our radio transmitting and receiving center. Sometimes he got to the SOS, and showed what kind of wave, I immediately transmitted it with a key to the center, which was indicated for transmitting such signals.
            1. lyrics
              lyrics 21 February 2021 13: 45
              0
              Pood weighed you say? He weighed more than five pounds. And this is without BP and other priblud.
              And if you are also talking about the attachment to it for interception, then in general, this kit "whale" weighed 7-8 poods
      2. Fitter65
        Fitter65 1 February 2021 00: 16
        +5
        Quote: 27091965i
        Quote: paco.soto
        There will be something to remember - nostalgic.

        I think not only for you, many of us have shaken her.

        One in the cockpit, the second in KUNG, we are going to keep the connection in the column ... How young we were, how truly we loved ... drinks
    2. Finches
      Finches 31 January 2021 20: 45
      +15
      As a personnel signalman, the article was a real pleasure for me!
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 31 January 2021 20: 59
        +5
        =========
        in the GSVG in the 80s, 105ka worked purely as a training .. "zas" our everything was even driven by a "bee" like ... "elite" damn ... for seven locks, with "crusts" ... it was enviable., no combatants, no snow removal ... intelligence ...
        1. Vadim Ananyin
          Vadim Ananyin 31 January 2021 21: 49
          +3
          ZAS is a ZAS, we know they used it. ! 1984-86 MBO
      2. The comment was deleted.
    3. mexanik62
      mexanik62 1 February 2021 19: 06
      0
      I support. In the early 80s he served in the ZabVO. Subordinate was a pair of two Urals with KUNGs with special equipment. Among other things, each kit included such a beauty. I had permission to transfer only once during an exercise, a couple of minutes every hour, if absolutely necessary. Batteries were causing trouble - they were constantly pushing from under the nuts of the plugs and valves of the plug. The valves constantly burst (either from electrolyte, or from age, or maybe from frost / heat), since there was a rubber tube of this caliber. On the advice of the communications deputy, I tied IO Kulikovok out of wire, and hid them in the safe (and there were 4 of them - 2 radio stations and 2 KUNGs). They were in demand.
  2. BAI
    BAI 31 January 2021 20: 09
    +8
    "Attention! The enemy is eavesdropping. " This inscription, executed in red on the rear panel of the army radio station R-105 (R-105D) of the company radio network, warned the Soviet soldier that data transmission over the radio channel could be unsafe.

    And now he is listening. Even with greater strength. And it suppresses, too. And shells with missiles at the source of the radio signal manages to direct.
    So it was easier then.
    1. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 31 January 2021 20: 35
      +8
      Quote: BAI
      And now he is listening. Even with greater strength. And it suppresses, too.

      Suppression of negotiations was used even in the besieged Port Arthur in the Russo-Japanese, prevented the Japanese from adjusting the shelling of ships in the bay.
    2. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 31 January 2021 21: 02
      -6
      Quote: BAI

      And now he is listening. Even with greater strength. And it suppresses, too.

      too much already ... sometimes it's better to chew ...
  3. svp67
    svp67 31 January 2021 20: 11
    +14
    It should be added that the working set of the radio station weighed 21 kg,
    Yes, I also had to drag one on my hump ... fellow
    And the inscription, so it's CLASSIC in general, at that time it was placed on all television and radio equipment so that they would not forget about the rules of negotiation and not talk too much
    1. paco.soto
      paco.soto 31 January 2021 20: 15
      +8
      Yes, I also had to drag one on my hump ... fellow
      And the inscription, so it's generally CLASSIC
      Reply © ©
      With a smile: here are the bright memories! Should we live in sorrow!
    2. Vadim Ananyin
      Vadim Ananyin 31 January 2021 20: 23
      +7
      I somehow met this thing in 1996 in an abandoned state in a warehouse of a garment factory, washed out the accre, filled in a new electrolyte, charged it and it worked without any problems.
      1. zenion
        zenion 31 January 2021 20: 54
        +6
        I don't remember about the battery. There was a square large battery of one and a half volts and an umformer that clicked, it provided a power source for the anodes of the lamps. The battery was changed once in three years. The same batteries were used for field telephones.
        1. Vadim Ananyin
          Vadim Ananyin 31 January 2021 21: 43
          +4
          2нкнп - no alkaline spills.
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 31 January 2021 22: 41
            +1
            Quote: Vadim Ananyin
            2нкнп - no alkaline spills.

            Exactly! Accumulators NKP-20U2. Such a disgusting light green color.
            1. zenion
              zenion 5 February 2021 21: 48
              +1
              At the time I served 1964-1967, there were batteries. Square high.
              1. A. Privalov
                A. Privalov 5 February 2021 21: 57
                0
                Quote: zenion
                At the time I served 1964-1967, there were batteries. Square high.

                I am younger than you and served 1972-1974.
    3. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 31 January 2021 22: 21
      +12
      ... I also had to drag one on my hump ...

      Greetings, Sergey
      hi
      Yes, the funniest thing was on the forced marches ... Kulikovka in addition.
      Eheh, Memory
      How indignant we were and demanded "modern" radio R-157 (8) (9).
      They are lighter))
      laughing
      By the way, not so long ago he was delivering a cordon around the tank director, shooting in-line, duc fighters were given ... R-105, darling !!!
      You should have seen their faces)))
      wassat
      1. mmaxx
        mmaxx 1 February 2021 02: 13
        +1
        Blimey! And they were not provided with three lines? wink
      2. svp67
        svp67 1 February 2021 06: 53
        +3
        Alex hi
        Quote: Aleks tv
        Yes, the funniest thing was on the marches ...

        It’s hard to think of “more fun” ...
        Quote: Aleks tv
        Kulikovka in addition.

        If only, four aluminum tubes (knees) of the antenna and all "Happiness"
        Quote: Aleks tv
        By the way, not so long ago he was delivering a cordon around the tank director, shooting in-line, duc fighters were given ... R-105, darling !!!

        Fine. Why should they go behind enemy lines ...
      3. ccsr
        ccsr 1 February 2021 14: 10
        +2
        Quote: Aleks tv
        How indignant we were and demanded "modern" radio R-157 (8) (9).

        In the special forces units there was a simplified version of the VHF radio station for organizing communication within the group - R-392A "Sokol" - of course it was easier, but it also had less opportunities:
      4. nsm1
        nsm1 1 February 2021 21: 54
        -2
        Quote: Aleks tv
        Yes, the funniest thing was on the marches ...
        On the march, I once said like I need to go faster ...
        Lityokha says "then take the radio."
        I will not say that it is very heavy, not particularly tired.
    4. safar gafarov
      safar gafarov 1 February 2021 08: 53
      +2
      remember the enemy is eavesdropping! at the end of the communication session, be sure to send him you know where.
  4. paco.soto
    paco.soto 31 January 2021 20: 11
    +8
    And who remembers the "hand-to-hand" markings of all the details there, a lot of notes, the smell of rosin and youth in general?
    1. dauria
      dauria 31 January 2021 20: 58
      +8
      a lot of notes, the smell of rosin and youth in general?

      So "wipe the tear off" wink One coil frame with silver wire ... Lamps, vibration transducer for the anode ... Eh, a decent walkie-talkie. VHF, FM .36-46 MHz, 1W, receiver 1,5 μV heterodyne with a gap of 790 kHz .... wink
      In short, a radiotelephone in an apartment of the 90s. Even the range is the same. Believe me, I'm not laughing. He himself once taught what the "dinatron effect" is
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 31 January 2021 21: 32
        +4
        It's not even a dark forest for me wassat respect to communications)
      2. Vadim Ananyin
        Vadim Ananyin 31 January 2021 21: 44
        +2
        Digging, we know and saw.
      3. paco.soto
        paco.soto 31 January 2021 22: 53
        +2
        So "wipe a tear" wink One coil frame with silver-plated wire ... Lamps, vibration transducer for ##
        Thank you for this room - I knew where to point !!! - smiled.
        Now I will drive up home and answer you.
      4. paco.soto
        paco.soto 31 January 2021 23: 40
        +3
        dinatron effect
        Thank you for the dialogue. While driving home, I took it and thought about my calendar old age. So many years have passed, but I remember everything in detail.
        1. dauria
          dauria 1 February 2021 00: 27
          +9
          While driving home, I took it and thought about my calendar old age.

          Yes, it was an amazing time ... You unwind a thin wire from the RES-10 relyushka, wind it around a match and loop 800 times through a 10 mm ferrite ring. You get a filter for the resonant cell of one discrete radio control command. Transmitter for 600 mw on a pair of kt 603, super-regenerative receiver. And pants full of happiness from the sailing boat. Now all this is funny, the Chinese will bungle everything and sell for a ridiculous price. ..The bastards took away the last joy.
          Hell, we are really mammoths. recourse Even this one of the latest homemade products is already 18 years old.
      5. Rustic i ......
        Rustic i ...... 1 February 2021 12: 16
        +2
        This block in the photo is something from the R-105 - R-114, but the "M" series, this model will be somewhat lighter and will be made on rod radio tubes, and not on the "g" series lamps. I picked them up during my service in a repair shop, and after that too.
        1. Rustic i ......
          Rustic i ...... 1 February 2021 13: 31
          +1
          I apologize, not the "F" series, but the "L" series, it was a long time ago, senile insanity affects, hee, hee.
      6. MrFox
        MrFox 1 February 2021 14: 29
        +1
        I recognize finger lamps; parallel connected D2E probably a detector. Blue capacitors - it seems with a low TKE, I don't remember already. Well, the last cry is a transistor in the circuit, judging by the location of the MP39B or MP41 terminals
      7. zampolit
        zampolit 6 February 2021 04: 52
        0
        This is no longer "Astra" - R-10 * D, but "Parus" - R-10 * M. 15 years younger, without vibration transducer and with rod lamps.
        Surprisingly, they survived until the 21st century, was surprised to recognize the characteristic body on the back of a puny body bending under its weight in a police uniform (maybe BB) in 2012, when there were performances by belolentochniks in Moscow time. / Apparently, everyone was taken out to strengthen and there was not enough communication equipment /
        Of course, before the mountains were higher and the women were younger, but who can imagine a modern radio with a lithium battery, used half a century later? Although why this might be necessary, it would seem ...
    2. Gato
      Gato 31 January 2021 23: 45
      +4
      And who remembers the markings of "melee" of all details

      As a relatively young dinosaur, I hardly remember the lamps, but the pinout of the transistors - yes, there, for example, KT315, a series of MPs, even the marking of resistors - 1M or K56. Eh, golden times of emitters, collectors, bases, microfarads and kilo-ohms laughing
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 1 February 2021 05: 10
        +2
        "Yorsh-R" transmitter - 100 watts, GK-71 output lamp. PV / KV. Not a single thing. I kept in touch throughout the Far East ... hi
  5. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 31 January 2021 20: 13
    +2
    We had the same in the radio circle of the city house of pioneers))) in the museum))) nostalgia good already 40 years younger after reading the article, keep it up !!! drinks
  6. Vadim Ananyin
    Vadim Ananyin 31 January 2021 20: 17
    +4
    Such an inscription was not only there, it was everywhere, I personally saw it at the location of the Pr.d.ts. 76 Vdd. When I was 12-13 years old.
  7. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 31 January 2021 20: 21
    +5
    My partner on such a hospital rattled off for 2 years. I really don't remember how an electronic thing at which you press a key and it will broadcast a bullet in Morse code, it's called. He mastered it perfectly. And I never mastered it. , all by hand, transmission of 17 groups, reception of 27 groups. According to it, we quite often heard the ambulance work in Brest, and we in the GSVG in Halle. 81 -83 years. Youth, and we lit a cigarette from the battery if there were no matches. fellow
    1. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 31 January 2021 20: 38
      +6
      Quote: tralflot1832
      I don’t remember how enta electronic thing at which you press the key and it was broadcast in Morse code on the air.

      It was called a Morse code sensor. Looks like a typewriter.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 31 January 2021 20: 58
        +5
        Thank you, Morse sensor model P 010. You can mock on it like that (in the sense of punishing, for failing to communicate on time over the receiving party by increasing or decreasing the speed of the sign transmission) drinks
        1. Gato
          Gato 31 January 2021 21: 31
          +3
          You can mock him so

          The radio operator, who was in full swing, always developed his own handwriting, by which it was possible to identify him, which was used for "non-statutory" radio communication. No one would have answered an unfamiliar handwriting, especially P-010
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 31 January 2021 21: 38
            +4
            He was in charge, it happened all night long he sent out radio messages in parts, and all encrypted, and sometimes the size of a "sheet", it was not fun for him, unlike me. I had such a show at the reception, for two weeks when the radio line was changed, unas radio control was tough, only two times in its razdalbyayu live broadcast.
      2. Gato
        Gato 31 January 2021 21: 15
        +6
        It was called a Morse code sensor. Looks like a typewriter.

        This happiness was called P-010, but real radio operators despised it - only a mechanical key, only hardcore.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 31 January 2021 21: 57
          +3
          But I had to learn so as not to type with one finger. Klava is also one to one. drinks
          1. Gato
            Gato 31 January 2021 22: 03
            +2
            Klava is also one to one.

            So yes, the Russian layout was not invented today. But the Orthodox key is kosher laughing ... They also used self-made electronic keys - in one direction a dot, in the other dash, but this is from the evil one am
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 31 January 2021 22: 10
              +3
              Yes, the pros were not forbidden, I had an ordinary one. I had to twist my demobilization, I became a family. After the army, I went into the sea, the speakers of the ship broadcast on a tip from the radio station crackled with Morse code, for a long time I read other people's radio messages automatically, on my subconscious. But in the Marconi I didn't went, it's better to go to refrigerators, they are fat and lazy. good
              1. Gato
                Gato 31 January 2021 22: 20
                +3
                on the subconscious

                That's yes .. professional deformation. I then had a handwriting for a long time, like a doctor and the habit of writing V instead of G. When computer mice appeared, my hand automatically grabbed it like a key, and the hard-wired habit of working with a brush, and not with fingers, interfered laughing
                1. tralflot1832
                  tralflot1832 31 January 2021 22: 50
                  0
                  I have F this is a stick, Z - /.V I do not remember, rather F. The handwriting is spoiled for life, I still do not connect the letters.
                2. tralflot1832
                  tralflot1832 1 February 2021 00: 03
                  +1
                  Good night, how long have you served?
                  1. Gato
                    Gato 1 February 2021 00: 09
                    +1
                    If the question is for me - urgent 86-88 KZakVO, I went to the dmb by the communications platoon lock. Officer - already in other families until 2008.
                    1. tralflot1832
                      tralflot1832 1 February 2021 00: 13
                      +1
                      Of course, to you. Well done, you dedicated your life to the army. And I left the sea in 2007. In 2011 I received a pension, at half a century and I still work. good
                      1. Gato
                        Gato 1 February 2021 00: 27
                        +6
                        army dedicated life

                        Well, not so pretentious, just a family tradition, other options were not even considered. After school, he entered the aviation school, but flew by the medical board, entered the Kiev Polytechnic - the parents were in shock. After the first year, I served an urgent (then they took students), then I worked in the defense industry, and at 1 everything began to collapse, as a good specialist they offered me for shoulder straps - I immediately agreed, and then off we go, the academy, that-behold. While still in the service I took up IT and programming - now I also work, I need to teach children. The eldest son followed almost in the footsteps - he is studying to be a military doctor. So somehow ...
                      2. tralflot1832
                        tralflot1832 1 February 2021 00: 59
                        +2
                        I also had problems, I wanted to be a Captain, not a Major. My eyes didn’t fuse, then it was strict with this. 14 candidates were replaced. They forged the signature of the ophthalmologist, and got caught. The article threatened, the ophthalmologist got into position, my parents kicked out during a conversation with But we left the office, Dad gave a book with the words you will not be a captain, but you will be a mechanic. You will go to the ref. I owe this woman the grave of my life. I left the army at almost 20 years old, when I was conscripted into the sea. The caps were not released. I saw the world at first at the expense of the state, and then at the expense of the office. The owner was very lucky, the former captain, although there are no former captains, kept to the end. And he had our father's memory. Went without protection or we did not see her. Always greeted, a couple of very ordinary phrases. But I never sawed my legs. I moved to Sochi when I retired. And then the Olympics, my finest hour. All my experience came in handy. I rose above the roof. You cannot drink experience. I live at the expense, in the sense of working, whose person he remembers good, but everything is so beautiful, the ships from the shore look much prettier. He is twice married and educated both sons.
          2. Andrey.AN
            Andrey.AN 31 January 2021 23: 22
            0
            They work with the key only for the sake of sports interest, fifty years already.
            1. Gato
              Gato 31 January 2021 23: 26
              +3
              They work with the key only for the sake of sports interest, fifty years already.

              Eh, youth laughing
              Of course, we are already old bastards, but we can still accept 28-30 groups by ear (if this tells you something)
          3. Uncle lee
            Uncle lee 1 February 2021 05: 12
            +2
            Quote: Gato
            electronic keys - dot in one direction, dash in the other

            Did you work on vibra? I saw the dance of little swans on it ...
            1. Gato
              Gato 1 February 2021 10: 17
              +2
              No, I'm on the key mostly and telephony 50/50. Vibra has a completely different technique, less energy consuming laughing For example, to send SOS, you need to make 3 movements on it, and on the key - 9.
              1. Uncle lee
                Uncle lee 1 February 2021 10: 24
                0
                I agree ! hi I later switched from vibra to an electronic key ... But there was no longer such beauty - dashes and dots had a fixed length. Morse sensor type. But each had its own handwriting. Nikolai Varlamovich Goryaev, still a military radio operator, gave his handwriting to several issues of radio operators! Even coastal radio operators confused us ... Here.
        2. boris epstein
          boris epstein 1 February 2021 16: 14
          0
          In order not to type with one finger, they taught to put fingers on the middle letter row. The index finger of the left hand - on the letter A, the index finger of the right hand on the letter O. The thumbs served the space, the left index finger served the A, P, M, C, the right index finger served the P, O, I, T. The rest - its own letter and one letter lower and higher. This is how radiotelegraphists and telegraph operators were trained, but we also had generalists-guys who had studied before the army at the stations of Young Technicians and in DOSAAF schools. They worked great both on the key and on the Morse code sensor.
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        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 31 January 2021 23: 35
          +1
          In the clave, any transistor is out of order. What will we transmit the order to attack? You just have to open the kung and shout, we will attack, and then he will shoot himself. And I will give two wires. And for verification you are a signalman or someone, knock the FLY that it will remind you !
          1. boris epstein
            boris epstein 1 February 2021 16: 16
            +1
            Cry in the stadiums. But not Ole-Ole. Before him.
            There is an anecdote on this topic. In Kharkov, there was the Institute of Radio Electronics-KhIRE. It had a faculty of radio amateurs. The professor sits on the exam and knocks his fingers on the table. One of the students breaks down and goes to the table with an open record. He gets excellent and leaves happy. The second fails, it gets already good.
            And the professor knocked in Morse code: "Whoever comes up first will get five. Second, four."
      4. ccsr
        ccsr 1 February 2021 14: 12
        +1
        Quote: Gato
        but real radio operators despised him - only a mechanical key, only hardcore.

        And in some places it was forbidden to work on the key - it was allowed only in emergency cases. So the situation is not the same everywhere.
        1. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 1 February 2021 21: 31
          +1
          Quote: ccsr
          And in some places it was forbidden to work on the key - it was allowed only in emergency cases.

          It was in such a place that I served.
      5. lyrics
        lyrics 21 February 2021 13: 58
        0
        And I worked as a DCM and an electronic key. I was allowed. The speeds were incredible and the exchange (load) was such that it was difficult to get out of the radio operator's chair, and my eyes were watery and my hands were tired of writing and transmitting ... But what a thrill it was!
    2. alex tsk
      alex tsk 1 February 2021 17: 22
      0
      Yeah, DKM was in my p161 mb)
  8. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 20: 58
    +1
    They called it vibration and they worked on it by tapping on the contacts to the sides. We were strictly forbidden to use them. For this, there was a special device that, from the operation of the key, recorded everything in dots on a tape. Then they put this tape in a special apparatus and the whole transmission flew out in a couple of seconds.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 31 January 2021 21: 12
      +1
      I was a radio operator of the radio direction to establish communication and hand over the channel to the ZA equipment. Or to receive a combat or training signal and confirm it, if the memory does not change the RK morse code. This is enough for the key, but I picked 5 ku and x, everyone knew who was on the key ...
      1. Andrey.AN
        Andrey.AN 31 January 2021 23: 36
        0
        The key sells in handwriting, the sensor is more convenient, it is easier to hit the button than to knock on each sign. There, with the Chinese, such swearing on the air happens, not for children, they say.
      2. Andrey.AN
        Andrey.AN 31 January 2021 23: 50
        -1
        I will even clarify to you, you seem to have served at the communications center in an ordinary position. By the way, you probably know that codes can be used to say everything, both about Father and Mother.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 31 January 2021 23: 52
          0
          What is this table called?
      3. Yngvar
        Yngvar 1 February 2021 05: 57
        +1
        To hand over the channel in DChT-500 to the telegraph?
      4. Ua3qhp
        Ua3qhp 2 February 2021 20: 49
        +1
        BP 630?
        With a certain skill, it is possible to distinguish between operators who work at ADKM. But there is not a handwriting, but the manner of communication differs.
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 31 January 2021 22: 53
      0
      Submariner?
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 31 January 2021 23: 40
        0
        Who else, Claudia, according to Murphy's law, fails, we switch to the key! It was passed, he worked with Rubin. The points were machine-gunned.
      2. Ua3qhp
        Ua3qhp 3 February 2021 11: 46
        +1
        Underground.
    3. Andrey.AN
      Andrey.AN 31 January 2021 23: 41
      -1
      Sorry, but you don't want to tell me about it.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 31 January 2021 23: 43
        0
        Who is Ruby?
        1. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 1 February 2021 21: 34
          +1
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Who is Ruby?

          Those who worked for the district headquarters or the army headquarters know this.
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 1 February 2021 23: 44
            0
            I worked for the army headquarters, so I know! hi
            1. Captain Pushkin
              Captain Pushkin 2 February 2021 11: 03
              0
              Quote: tralflot1832
              I worked for the army headquarters, so I know! hi

              Then "who" "Hummingbird", too, probably did not forget.
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 2 February 2021 11: 06
                0
                I remember there was such a bird in the radio data, but who has already forgotten that! repeat
                1. Captain Pushkin
                  Captain Pushkin 2 February 2021 11: 31
                  +1
                  Hummingbird is Rubin's twin brother.
                  1. zenion
                    zenion 5 February 2021 21: 56
                    -1
                    He served in aviation and our bosses went under codes starting from 001 and higher.
    4. Andrey.AN
      Andrey.AN 31 January 2021 23: 56
      -1
      You are a ZASovets, in principle everything was encrypted with you. Probably the demon from the 8th department was confusing how to cut down the loot on the documents.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 1 February 2021 00: 05
        0
        The question is who Rubin is. He is the same for everyone.
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 2 February 2021 12: 09
          0
          Quote: tralflot1832
          The question is who Rubin is. He is the same for everyone.

          Call sign of the main unit in the Ministry of Defense. Who worked with 105, well, could not get to him in any way ...
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 2 February 2021 21: 09
            +1
            I had another station, and my neighbor at the P105 post. The divisional network, his service was not sugar. Shifts could transfer "footcloths" to the unit using the P 010 sensor. Brest from Halle was often heard, but the passage was only in one direction And I was given a vacation for the radio direction under control twice, but I never went out. There was no replacement, the officers did not succeed either, there was such a period in a month. When they replaced me, there were a lot of nuances, "old lady" is a radio station of my year birth, GSVG 81 83 Call sign Kaluga.
    5. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 2 February 2021 11: 14
      +1
      Quote: zenion
      there was a special device that, from the operation of the key, recorded everything in dots on a tape. Then they put this tape in a special apparatus and the whole transmission flew out in a couple of seconds.

      There was once a radio station for the landing. The message was stuffed onto a punched tape and, when the handle was rotated, was broadcast. You rotate in one direction - 13 groups per minute, in the other - 200 groups per minute.
  • Alien From
    Alien From 31 January 2021 20: 25
    +4
    Thanks for the article and for the future series of similar articles) interesting and nostalgia) I am writing from Samsung lol hi
    1. Gato
      Gato 31 January 2021 21: 35
      +5
      I am writing from Samsung

      Was the Schaub connected to the remote P-105 lit? laughing hi
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 31 January 2021 21: 40
        +1
        For the power to be lol
  • paco.soto
    paco.soto 31 January 2021 20: 27
    +3
    Thank you Volodin. An invaluable rubric will be a "museum exhibit", and if you also have to moderate dull commentators - army generals from classmates, so as not to troll, stealing time to read here.
    1. Andrey.AN
      Andrey.AN 1 February 2021 00: 17
      -2
      You see, if you start editing, on your own, you will become what annoys you now. We seem to be not free riders here, if we do not personally harm anyone, it turns out that we are breaking through our point of view with the help of partners, and we are breaking through their position. It is not criminal, it is criminal under articles of the Constitution to handle other people's personal data, without the consent of the owner.
  • Unknown
    Unknown 31 January 2021 20: 28
    +8
    Yes, nostalgia, time is running out. Let's make a joke, remember our youth ....... ,, Muzzle in soap, well ....... in mud. Where are you from? We are from communication ,,.
    1. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 31 January 2021 20: 39
      +6
      Quote: Unknown
      Where are you from? We are from communication ,,.

      Yes, yes ... We'll drink everything, but we won't disgrace the connection!
      1. fif21
        fif21 31 January 2021 23: 03
        +2
        Quote: Captain Pushkin
        Yes, yes ... We'll drink everything, but we won't disgrace the connection!

        Quote: Captain Pushkin
        Yes, yes ... We'll drink everything, but we won't disgrace the connection!

        For communication without marriage! wassat
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 31 January 2021 20: 40
      +6
      I don’t even remember how many meters of wire was on the coil? Kitchen, kitchen, I was a jackal, welcome! Having received an answer, to rewind everything back. It was fun! They were young, I easily served for 57 years, otherwise the girls would not marry if they did not serve in the army. The parents would not give a bride.!
      1. Gato
        Gato 31 January 2021 20: 55
        +3
        I don't even remember how many meters of wire were on the coil?

        Theoretically, it should have been 500 m, in real life there never was more than 200 - they did not like to carry the bundles of gravity.
    3. Gato
      Gato 31 January 2021 21: 04
      +5
      Muzzle in soap, well ....... in mud.

      The reality was not so tragic. The contemplation of mountain shooters climbing a 142-meter mound of mountain shooters from the warm box R-200 inspired philosophical reflections on the topic "the smart will not go up the hill" laughing
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 31 January 2021 21: 20
        +3
        And from the window of the divisional communications center in Halle, watching the division go to the exercises is generally a thrill. You can say vacation, silence for a week, and if in summer camps, then more. good
    4. Catfish
      Catfish 31 January 2021 22: 13
      +7
      During the analysis of the exercises, the aviation received an "A", the tank crews - "four", and communication in general excelled - no one scolded her.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 1 February 2021 01: 19
        +2
        It’s exactly. It just has to be. Until now I don’t understand why I was needed. 81 83 years old, types of communication: troposphere, satellite, radio-line communication, linear communication.
    5. fif21
      fif21 31 January 2021 22: 48
      +1
      Quote: Unknown
      We are from communication ,,.

      A knock on the door. Who's there? Signalers. The door was opened ....... So what? What, what - tied! hi
    6. boris epstein
      boris epstein 1 February 2021 16: 32
      0
      Well, it's more about line supervisors, VUS-100. A reel with a cable, a TAI-43 telephone (if the TA-57 is a pleasure), a bag with a tool, a machine gun, a bayonet-knife, a pouch with two loaded magazines, a helmet, a shovel, a gas mask.
  • Captain Pushkin
    Captain Pushkin 31 January 2021 20: 33
    +1
    One of the reasons for the defeat of Samsonov's army in East Prussia in World War I was the negotiations of the army command on the radio - the Germans listened and made conclusions about the plans.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 31 January 2021 21: 01
      +2
      And when they took Prague in 68, they communicated live through the Chechens, he was still ZAS.
      1. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 31 January 2021 21: 05
        +2
        Quote: tralflot1832
        And when they took Prague in 68, they communicated live through the Chechens, he was still ZAS.

        The Americans during the Second World War used the Eskimos for these purposes.
        1. Freeman
          Freeman 31 January 2021 21: 59
          +6
          Quote: Captain Pushkin
          Quote: tralflot1832
          And when they took Prague in 68, they communicated live through the Chechens, he was still ZAS.

          The Americans during the Second World War used the Eskimos for these purposes.


          stop Amendment. Not the Eskimos, but the Navajo Indians.
          Based on those events, in 2002, the film "Windtalkers" was shot.

  • paco.soto
    paco.soto 31 January 2021 20: 36
    +3
    Complete offtopic now: it turns out that now it is necessary to see something valuable and sensible in order to think and remember the past. Thank you!
  • Gato
    Gato 31 January 2021 20: 41
    +5
    Aaaa ... already warmed in my soul and creased in my back. I had a couple in my platoon, they were used exclusively for orienting television antennas in DOSs - one Marconi turns the antenna, the second gives a signal with the best image.
  • Aviator_
    Aviator_ 31 January 2021 20: 44
    +3
    Lamp! She doesn't care about ionizing radiation. I remember an episode in the magazine "Radio" for 1968, there was also about her.
  • zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 20: 50
    +4
    We were taught that when the subscriber heard you, you need to set the gain to minimum listening. That is, if the connection was rated at five, then it was necessary to downgrade by three. No one else was supposed to hear the connection. In addition, no one said that it was a radio station, but called it a walkie-talkie. The radio station on which I worked was powerful and the instructions said that the communication range was unlimited. And these radios were in the classroom. Girls studied there. We liked to attach a piece of wire in isolation to the chair so that it would not be visible. When you pressed the key, there was a feeling that a worm or several ants were crawling under the backside. Of course, the power was such that the neon did not even react. But when I took it in my hands, I felt that warmth emanated, a tingling sensation, as if you were checking a square battery with your tongue, or it was still usable.
  • Avior
    Avior 31 January 2021 20: 54
    +3
    Nostalgia is simple :)
    It was used for communication in the columns and for other service purposes; it was in combat vehicles. She worked as a telephone for 5-7 kilometers to the sandpiper.
  • Catfish
    Catfish 31 January 2021 21: 07
    +4
    We had a P-105 on the "Half-Fours", listened to music and Chinese propaganda. He turned the helmet inside out and onto the tower - quite a radio point. smile
    1. Undecim
      Undecim 31 January 2021 22: 54
      +5
      There were 54 RT-10s on the T-26.

      Then R-112, R-113.
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 31 January 2021 23: 00
        0
        You are mistaken, Vic, it is the "stalled" ones, I remember well enough.
        1. Undecim
          Undecim 31 January 2021 23: 21
          +4
          R-105 in a tank - neither to the village nor to the city. She even has different frequencies, they do not coincide with the tank frequencies. We had a dozen T-54s in our park, even a commander's one, with two radio stations. But the P-105 was pulled exclusively by the infantry.
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 31 January 2021 23: 34
            +1
            I don't know, I got a car from a capital from Nizhny Tagil in 68, which was on it and I'm writing. I don’t think my memory is so short.
            1. Undecim
              Undecim 31 January 2021 23: 45
              +3
              I do not question your memory in any way, but now I have flipped through the form again - it is not "put" in the tank.
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 1 February 2021 00: 28
                +1
                Well, what can I do, actually I trust you, but now I have stuck in my memory number 105 and where to go?
                1. Undecim
                  Undecim 1 February 2021 00: 47
                  +2
                  I don't even know what to tell you. Maybe someone from the tankers will add.
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 1 February 2021 00: 51
                    +2
                    Damn, I myself began to doubt, I’ll get enough sleep, finally, I will definitely write to you about this. And then there's the full moon, as luck would have it, I myself walk like a sleepwalker with lack of sleep. Okay, good night, see you.))
                  2. Catfish
                    Catfish 1 February 2021 16: 09
                    +1
                    Vic, I overslept. You are absolutely right, this is R-113. I don’t know from what devil I was so overtaken, probably already insanity is approaching. laughing
                    I apologize for this stupid argument. drinks
                    1. Undecim
                      Undecim 1 February 2021 16: 10
                      +2
                      This is not an argument, this is a discussion. Everyone is wrong.
                      1. Catfish
                        Catfish 1 February 2021 16: 12
                        +1
                        I didn’t even have a mistake, I was "bridged", and it scares.

                        I also dropped it in a personal note.
                      2. Undecim
                        Undecim 1 February 2021 16: 51
                        +2
                        Yes, I read. Don't take it to heart.
                      3. Catfish
                        Catfish 1 February 2021 16: 54
                        +1
                        I'll try, but it's a shame. smile
            2. Captain Pushkin
              Captain Pushkin 1 February 2021 21: 42
              +4
              Quote: Sea Cat
              sat in memory number 105 and where to go?

              One guy got the number P-110 and he wrote to someone that he was running with this walkie-talkie behind his shoulders. And they found out about this letter. They brought the soldier to the classroom where the P-110 transmitter stood, pulled the power supply out of the transmitter and asked him to raise this unit by a few centimeters ...
              So your case is not so difficult ...
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 1 February 2021 21: 56
                +1
                Thank you, I read you and felt an inexplicable relief. Lucky. smile drinks
      2. Rustic i ......
        Rustic i ...... 1 February 2021 12: 45
        +1
        There were also R-109 and R-114 radio stations, copies of the R-105, but their range was shifted to work in the same network with the R-113 and R-123, for communication between the infantry and tankers.
        1. Undecim
          Undecim 1 February 2021 12: 55
          0
          Yes, there were such, they differed only in frequencies.
          R-105M: 36.0-46.1 MHz,
          R-108M: 28.0-36.5 MHz,
          R-109M: 21.5-28.5 MHz.
          But why put it in a tank?
  • Emil mamedoff
    Emil mamedoff 31 January 2021 21: 14
    +6
    I served in the signal troops of Azerbaijan (2012 January - 2013 July) for a year and a half. We had Turkish Aselsan communication systems and Israeli Tadiran Communication communication trucks.
    Every morning at 6:50 am I connected our high-frequency commander to the corps and to the Ministry of Defense, so that he would report on the latest news on Nagorno-Karabakh. With the help of the radio station 240 ZASS (Classified.) When I quit, I remember already 85% of our communication was Israeli Tadiran Communication ..


    The communications troops are the best !!
  • bk0010
    bk0010 31 January 2021 21: 39
    +1
    We were scared that the price of this thing was the same as that of a Zhiguli. Does anyone know if this is true?
    1. Gato
      Gato 31 January 2021 21: 55
      +2
      the price of this thing is the same as that of the Zhiguli. Does anyone know if this is true?

      No it is not true. In 1987, at the Caucasus exercises, the PNSh loved a similar P-109 - 3 salaries were calculated from it. This enemy of the people managed to drown her on a fishing trip.
    2. Vadim Ananyin
      Vadim Ananyin 31 January 2021 21: 56
      0
      Are you kidding ?! I have never heard this.
  • Egoza
    Egoza 31 January 2021 22: 14
    +1
    Thank you, Alexey! How many memories at once!
  • Owl
    Owl 31 January 2021 22: 36
    +1
    At the beginning of the summer of 1987, when I went to the OrjVOKU Tara training center, I dragged the R-10, a very heavy and inconvenient company radio station, for about 105 kilometers. Maybe it seemed to me so, since I was a freshman, but then the 107th and 159th were worn more comfortably.
    1. Gato
      Gato 31 January 2021 23: 05
      +1
      R-10 dragged about 105 kilometers

      Oh and the command did not like you laughing
      In the same year, we ran with the R-126: there was no communication range, but the weight was only about 3 kg
  • Andrey.AN
    Andrey.AN 31 January 2021 23: 15
    0
    Yes, the stump is clear, grazing, it is necessary to make corrections, use, those who stuck their nose, also need.
  • paco.soto
    paco.soto 31 January 2021 23: 19
    0
    Muzzle in soap, well ....... in mud. Where are you from? We are out of communication ,,. ©
    I apologize for the comment: the ass is in soap, the muzzle is in the mud - it was then driving the signalmen before and during the exercises.

    Regards to you!
    1. Gato
      Gato 1 February 2021 01: 05
      +3
      well ....... in the mud. Where are you from? We are out of touch

      And here are teasers for you as an alaverda, Schaub did not hurt the aristocracy am laughing :

      - A muzzle in soap, in a branch. Where are you from? From intelligence!
      - Well ... in soap, ... in grease, but on the other hand - in the navy!
      - While the tanker was busy with the truck, the signalman ... further into the rhyme is indecent and insulting
      - An infantry officer walks forever dirty, always sweaty
      - Always drunk, always sleepy, the aviation goes
      - With a sexual anguish in his eyes, a marine officer walks
      - The target came out of the clouds - wake up ... s!
      - The air defense soldier is lying motionless: he was not killed by a bullet - they loved him!
      - What does a construction battalion soldier dream of at night? He even hugs a shovel in his sleep!
  • U-58
    U-58 1 February 2021 03: 44
    -1
    3-5 km ?. As a kid, I went to the radio circle, so there was 105, where older comrades contacted city lovers around 400-600 km (if I remember correctly).
    True, on the roof there was a whole design of rotary antennas
    1. Rustic i ......
      Rustic i ...... 1 February 2021 13: 13
      +1
      It is unlikely, since 400-600 km are in the "dead zone". 1400 - 1600 km most likely. Somehow in 1967, during a good passage, right from the desktop for the repair of radio stations, I contacted from Kandalaksha from the mountains. Grozny, using the Kulikov antenna at the R-108 radio station. All those present were dumbfounded, but you can't argue against the fact, hee, hee, my "shares" increased sharply after that.
  • 41st region
    41st region 1 February 2021 04: 25
    +1
    An interesting experiment was carried out. Two people with R-105s are standing at a distance of 200 meters on opposite sides of a large-diameter pipeline mounted at a height of about 2 meters. Direct visibility, no communication. laughing
    Then the same experiment with the P-159 (incredible at the time, 1986) - there is a connection.
    1. Ua3qhp
      Ua3qhp 2 February 2021 20: 59
      0
      So the capacity of 159 stations is much higher. But heavy ... tin.
      1. 41st region
        41st region 3 February 2021 10: 29
        0
        The power is higher - 5 W versus 1 W. The weight is almost the same, but the P-159 is more convenient to carry.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 1 February 2021 07: 49
    +1
    The main thing is the inscription in red paint. Transmitters have been improved. You can release information in a second, and the receiver will listen to everything at the desired speed. The main thing is that the enemy is eavesdropping. All metric parameters, from the health of a Soviet person to the weather and geographical maps, were classified. Now Google from an American city will say your place of residence and show the house where you live. But he will not show what he still knows about you.
  • dgonni
    dgonni 1 February 2021 10: 21
    +1
    Who pounds in rain and mud? Our Valiant Connection!
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  • Kushka
    Kushka 1 February 2021 13: 50
    +1
    You will not believe, but these 105s are also on
    the citizen was plowed. The 107th and 108th went to the Armed Forces.
    and the 105th in 1974 was taken to taxi companies in a "converted"
    view - the entire front panel (including the inscription) has been removed,
    those. verier device (frequency setting) has been removed -
    r / st was tuned to one wave. Left small
    tubular trimmer with screwdriver slot for precise
    adjustments. Moreover, their appearance was like the one that
    in the photo - it was clear that the "urgent" hit them well.
    We wrapped them in old cameras, stuffed them in the trunks
    GAZ-24, the wader was put on the rear bumper. Instead of a headset
    a heavy "pipe" with a tangent was pulled into the salon.
    This was the beginning of the radioification of taxis in the USSR. These Volga
    worked with two drivers in two shifts. They drove
    for example, women in labor, on a call from the outskirts, which means there
    pedal to the floor and to the hospital pedal to the floor, and instead of roads
    some directions. And nothing, 105 did. When
    the frequency slipped, the taxi driver drove the Volga back to the window,
    we put a typical VHF receiver with a device on the window
    in a frequency discriminator (something like a lawn
    apermeter - -15 0 and +15) Put a screwdriver in the trimmer
    and looking out the window, the frequency deviation was displayed at 0, and again
    to battle. Our grandfathers knew how to make military equipment.
  • Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 1 February 2021 18: 18
    0
    Quote: Gato
    Gee, you can't catch many voices on VHF.

    They ate more than once to say something, but they were easily recognized - the voice was different and the sound power was weaker.
  • faterdom
    faterdom 1 February 2021 23: 43
    0
    The most that should have been protected from the kit of this and its successor R-105M - it was a flexible cable antenna (kulikovka) - well, it was very close to my hands, as a kind of compact, but quite effective in the skillful hands of edged weapons.
    Somehow, from storage, several hundred such radio stations were transferred from the warehouse to the road construction brigades created at that time (the program "Roads of the Non-Black Earth Region" under Gorbachev), and so there were antennas in them, God forbid, if a quarter of the required amount, everything was stolen over the previous decades of storage ...
  • Andycomm
    Andycomm 17 February 2021 20: 04
    0
    The device is "death to the enemy" - assure them, really unkillable, on the withers of an adversary - here is a trendy one. But to carry this burden yourself ...
    The most offensive thing is that the lion's share of that heavy weight is the battery pack ...