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"In addition to steel, we use bronze": a new version of the Molot mortar was presented in Ukraine

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"In addition to steel, we use bronze": a new version of the Molot mortar was presented in Ukraine

The press service of the Ukrainian Mayak plant presents a modernized version of the Molot mortar, which has received scandalous fame in Ukraine. These scandals are connected with the fact that the "Hammer" mortar was notable for its low reliability - several times it was torn apart when firing. Among other things, the use of unsuitable metal for the production of the barrel was revealed.


Earlier, Voennoye Obozreniye reported that Mayak was preparing to present a new version of the Hammer. And so, such a presentation took place.

According to the designer of the Molot plant, Alexander Gordeev, the mortar has a constant caliber of 120 mm, while the new version of the Molot differs from the original by a "significant structural improvement."

According to Gordeev, the mortar is equipped with "reinforced shock absorbers", which allows "more convenient transportation." It is also reported that the new version of the "Hammer" allows you to fire not only from the ground, but also from asphalt or concrete.

At Mayak they are talking about the completion of the mechanism for preventing double loading, about the work on the use of anti-corrosion materials.



Plant press service:

In particular, in addition to steel, we also use bronze.

During the tests from the new version of the mortar "Hammer" carried out, as stated, five thousand shots.

According to the test, "the mortar's reliability was confirmed." Soon he will begin to enter the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Photos used:
site of the Mayak plant, ICTV
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  1. svp67
    svp67 31 January 2021 12: 22
    +15
    "In addition to steel, we use bronze": a new version of the Molot mortar was presented in Ukraine
    Well, that’s all ... now you will have to install a sentry for each mortar, so that the bronze is not dragged away ...
    1. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 31 January 2021 13: 02
      +11
      Quote: svp67
      "In addition to steel, we use bronze": a new version of the Molot mortar was presented in Ukraine
      Well, that’s all ... now you will have to install a sentry for each mortar, so that the bronze is not dragged away ...

      Ukraine descends into the Bronze Age
    2. sergo1914
      sergo1914 31 January 2021 13: 06
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      "In addition to steel, we use bronze": a new version of the Molot mortar was presented in Ukraine
      Well, that’s all ... now you will have to install a sentry for each mortar, so that the bronze is not dragged away ...


      They took it off the tongue. Then from the surrendered non-ferrous metal to make new mortars. The scheme is interesting.
    3. The comment was deleted.
    4. Reserve buildbat
      Reserve buildbat 31 January 2021 13: 39
      +2
      They just replaced their crafts from raw iron with Soviet parts from storage warehouses. laughing
    5. wow
      wow 2 February 2021 09: 54
      0
      That's right, they scam everything that comes to hand. And as "non-ferrous", even more so! The mentality of the "Ukrainian people" is indestructible. Although how to say, maybe together with this "people"?
  2. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 31 January 2021 12: 25
    +2
    Curiously, how is 5 mines consistent with the consumption of ammunition in Donbas and the import of shells?
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 31 January 2021 12: 36
      0
      Well, somewhere it decreased, but somewhere it increased
      It looks like "ATO veterans" shook laughing
  3. Eldorado
    Eldorado 31 January 2021 12: 25
    +10
    From the Neolithic to the Bronze Age! fellow Evolution!
  4. paul3390
    paul3390 31 January 2021 12: 28
    +7
    In addition to steel, we use bronze

    Did the Tsegabons finally invent the bronze smoothbore cannon? what
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 31 January 2021 12: 34
      +4
      Quote: paul3390
      Did the Tsegabons finally invent the bronze smoothbore cannon?

      And they learned to cut stone cores to her
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 31 January 2021 12: 35
        +3
        But about this discovery - there is not a word in the article .. So - about hewn kernels is not a fact yet .. Perhaps - they are just mastering technologies ..
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 31 January 2021 12: 37
          0
          Quote: paul3390
          But about this discovery - there is not a word in the article.

          Khokhlotayna
          Perhaps they are just mastering technologies.

          Duc five thousand have already turned into sand
        2. Andrey.AN
          Andrey.AN 31 January 2021 13: 53
          +3
          There, the point is, the coefficient of thermal expansion of bronze allows it to play the role of a damper for steel, and keep the pipe from wear and distortion, by the difference in thermal expansion.
          1. Pete mitchell
            Pete mitchell 31 January 2021 14: 40
            +1
            Quote: Andrey.AN
            The point is ...

            I’m sorry, I don’t rummage about material science for barrels: what kind of bronze is this type of modern technology?
            1. Andrey.AN
              Andrey.AN 31 January 2021 14: 55
              +1
              modern technology is everything that is not busy.
            2. avdkrd
              avdkrd 31 January 2021 17: 24
              +3
              Quote: Pete Mitchell
              Quote: Andrey.AN
              The point is ...

              I’m sorry, I don’t rummage about material science for barrels: what kind of bronze is this type of modern technology?

              Bronze is actually a much more complex material than steel. There are grades of gun-grade bronze that can be used as a material for rifled barrels, but their price will be higher than titanium. Doubt the non-brothers created a bronze or composite mortar barrel. I will assume that we are talking about a mechanism from a double loading or sight bar.
      2. halpat
        halpat 31 January 2021 13: 23
        0
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Quote: paul3390
        Did the Tsegabons finally invent the bronze smoothbore cannon?

        And they learned to cut stone cores to her

        not yet smile it's still ahead
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 31 January 2021 12: 29
    +4
    refinement of the mechanism for preventing double loading, on the work on the use of anti-corrosion materials
    This is how many "Hammer" had to grind their own, so that the designers finally undertake to modify it? All through one place in this "independent country".
  6. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 31 January 2021 12: 33
    0
    So, in my opinion, this article about 2 weeks ago was already
    I also left my comment under this one request
    It is also reported that the new version of the "Hammer" allows you to fire not only from the ground, but also from asphalt or concrete.
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 31 January 2021 12: 47
      +2
      Well, waxes that the Germans that ours beat each other in urban battles from asphalt and concrete ... I also laughed at this suitcase without a handle ... 100 years late with innovation
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 31 January 2021 12: 51
        0
        Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
        Well, waxes that the Germans that ours beat each other from asphalt and concrete in urban battles

        I said that apparently the punishers are preparing for urban battles in the Donbass, since the ability to shoot from asphalt and concrete in the field is not needed
        1. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 31 January 2021 13: 02
          0
          apparently the punishers are preparing for urban battles in the Donbass, ... come on Seryoga, .. with such a degradation of the Alliance in Nau, this is tantamount to death ... here we are talking about a pinch from the tanga treasury, and this is not a breakthrough product created by the team a real hairy hand at a high level in military circles ... won, the chen did not really think about when they sawed the gimbal of KamAZ vehicles with an inner diameter of 82 mm, just under 82 mm mine, and so many things were collected on the knee and the main thing was effective ... and here ... walk the field ... just shake the treasury ... especially when the clown junkie was the grandmother herself ordered
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 31 January 2021 13: 11
            0
            Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
            ..with such degradation of the APU

            Well, they don't think so. And their owners don't just arm them
            At any moment the FAS command can follow.
            And the crowd will go to the last Sumerian
            1. Crimean partisan 1974
              Crimean partisan 1974 31 January 2021 13: 22
              +1
              And the extras will go to the last Sumerian .... it's unlikely ... times have changed too much ... mainly if the upper echelons of the military live at ease. then the lower echelons, arriving in their native land, enlightened that they were being thrown by everyone without satisfaction. from the clerk in the bank, to higher and higher ... but freebies and looting are a thing of the past ... and they did not forget how they boiled in cauldrons ... so those who wanted to sacrifice themselves to the junta dramatically decreased ... this is confirmed by the fact so that the military units of the platoon in the mouth are literally reduced quite officially due to the undersupply of l, s ... and the trend is increasing ... so only our own treasury remains to be cut
            2. halpat
              halpat 31 January 2021 13: 30
              0
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
              ..with such degradation of the APU

              Well, they don't think so. And their owners don't just arm them
              At any moment the FAS command can follow.
              And the crowd will go to the last Sumerian

              Only the most stubborn natsyks will react to the command "face".
              The rest will have to be driven in the back with machine guns and they will surrender in batches.
              I think so.
  7. AshPoseidon
    AshPoseidon 31 January 2021 12: 38
    0
    The mortar's reputation is still damaged, even if it has been upgraded. Even with a new mortar, the crews would be wary of using it. Life is more precious.
  8. Crimean partisan 1974
    Crimean partisan 1974 31 January 2021 12: 40
    -1
    So. of course, the tanga from the first version has already ended ... now the second part of the Marlison ballet
  9. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 31 January 2021 12: 48
    +1
    De-industrialization in full swing laughing Oh, you don't know the depths of reality're coming out, judge everything in Russia, you need to plunge into reality, clear your brains, or just go crazy, which is likely to happen. laughing
  10. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 31 January 2021 12: 48
    +1
    which allows "with great convenience to carry out its transportation."

    These are the main advantages of the Hammer.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 31 January 2021 13: 12
      0
      Quote: tihonmarine
      These are the main advantages of the Hammer.

      Transportation to buyout? repeat
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 31 January 2021 14: 09
        +1
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Transportation to buyout?

        It is dangerous to carry such a product even to the buy-up.
  11. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 31 January 2021 13: 01
    +1
    In addition to steel, we use bronze ... Or maybe it's a mess? It would be necessary: ​​"We use bronze by steel ..."?

    or
    1. Andrey.AN
      Andrey.AN 1 February 2021 01: 21
      -2
      They invented the bronze clutch cool, whatever you say the guys are there. When the barrel heats up, it compresses without missing distortion.
  12. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 31 January 2021 13: 04
    +3
    the usual set for the Sumerians ... you still need to add manure ... clay and willow twigs ... and you get a superweapon and completely national ... well, that's not like anything ... that broke with the technology of the scoop.
    1. sergo1914
      sergo1914 31 January 2021 13: 07
      -1
      Quote: silberwolf88
      the usual set for the Sumerians ... you still need to add manure ... clay and willow twigs ... and you get a superweapon and completely national ... well, that's not like anything ... that broke with the technology of the scoop.


      In vain you suggest. Let them figure it out for themselves.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 31 January 2021 13: 13
      -2
      Quote: silberwolf88
      it still needs to add manure ... clay and willow twigs ... and

      Put an embroidery on him lol
  13. ZAV69
    ZAV69 31 January 2021 13: 06
    -1
    Вот как можно было испортить вот эту вещь: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/120-%D0%BC%D0%BC_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BC%D1%91%D1%82_%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B7%D1%86%D0%B0_1938_%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 31 January 2021 13: 15
      -2
      Quote: ZAV69
      Here's how you could screw up this thing:

      So this is
      soviet mortar

      No way!
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 31 January 2021 14: 10
        -1
        Quote: Lipchanin
        So this is
        soviet mortar

        No way!

        Nothing is impossible in Ukraine.
  14. venik
    venik 31 January 2021 13: 09
    +1
    ".... Lord! Once upon a time, launch vehicles, satellites, tanks, electronics were not produced in Ukraine ....... And now? Even normal mortar can't do ...
    =====
    This is what it means to become "vassals"rich American hosts!
    With what I congratulate Ukrainians! love
    1. silberwolf88
      silberwolf88 31 January 2021 15: 26
      +3
      in the Ukraine they never knew how ... they only knew how in the USSR, of which she was a part ... the core from the structure was removed and everything ...
      with Russia all the rules ... she was one of the guards of the USSR along with the idea
  15. Xenofont
    Xenofont 31 January 2021 13: 22
    +1
    Back to the Future! Coming of the Bronze Age.
  16. Keer
    Keer 31 January 2021 13: 31
    +3
    I received the Hammer in the warehouse and remained forever young.
  17. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 31 January 2021 15: 32
    -1
    "In addition to steel, we use bronze": a new version of the Molot mortar was presented in Ukraine


    Of course it is. They buy the cheapest steel from the Indian huckster-scavengers, and we stupidly steal the bronze, because we are crazy)))
  18. cosmonaut
    cosmonaut 31 January 2021 16: 59
    0
    why not aluminum. but what, it would be cool))) even I, 13 years old, didn’t think of making a samopal from a bronze tube. I took a thick steel))
  19. kventinasd
    kventinasd 31 January 2021 17: 03
    0
    In particular, in addition to steel, we also use bronze.

    Hike in the Ukrainian military-industrial complex, his Mendeleev appeared. laughing
  20. APASUS
    APASUS 31 January 2021 17: 47
    +1
    According to the designer of the Molot plant, Alexander Gordeev, the mortar has a constant caliber of 120 mm, while the new version of the Molot differs from the original by a "significant structural improvement."
    According to Gordeev, the mortar is equipped with "reinforced shock absorbers", which allows "more convenient transportation." It is also reported that the new version of the "Hammer" allows you to fire not only from the ground, but also from asphalt or concrete.
    At Mayak they are talking about the completion of the mechanism for preventing double loading, about the work on the use of anti-corrosion materials.

    They write nonsense, there would be only one and a very significant drawback: because of the disgusting quality of steel, an explosion occurred in the bore of the mortar. And then again they write shock absorbers, but they picked up a new paint .............. ... so the main flaw has been eliminated or not?
  21. xomaNN
    xomaNN 1 February 2021 22: 02
    0
    This mortar was developed and produced in the USSR almost in the 60s. And the "uk..r. Improvers" with their modernizations only worsen the weapon. Is that uk..r. to paint it with patterns? wassat