"The Russians will probably soon deploy Su-57 fighters on the islands": in Japan, the prime minister is criticized for the "Kuril issue"

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After the new Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga actually repeated the statements of his predecessor about "determination to negotiate with Russia on the return of the Northern Territories (as Tokyo calls the Russian South Kurils)," Japanese experts stepped up their comments on such initiatives. However, more than 4 months have passed since Suga took office and promises made to him, but the "decisive measures" expected in Japan from the prime minister did not follow. This led to a portion of criticism of the head of the Japanese cabinet of ministers.

The main portion of the criticism is connected with the fact that the Japanese, who are interested in the Kuril issue, consider themselves deceived by the authorities. In particular, the incumbent prime minister was called a "follower of the rhetoric" of his predecessor, Shinzo Abe. Tom was recalled that he swore on the grave of his own father, stating that he would return the "Northern Territories". Yoshihide Suga has not yet sworn oaths on the graves of his ancestors, but he spoke to the heads of the northern prefectures of Japan with assurances of his readiness to "intensify the process of returning the islands." At the same time, Suga said that he had "a frank conversation with Vladimir Putin" on the issue of the "Northern Territories." In Russia, these statements of the Japanese prime minister were not commented on in any way, but now ordinary Japanese remembered them.



It is noted that while the prime ministers give promises one after the other, Russia "is strengthening the military component on the islands." In particular, it points to the creation of airfields capable of receiving, among other things, combat aircraft, for the supply of anti-aircraft missile systems and other weapons.

Some comments from readers of Japanese media.

These authorities are constantly promising us something about the islands. The Russians are likely to soon deploy a new generation of Su-57 fighters and other modern technology there. And what will the government say after that?

In the south and in the center of the country there are American military bases, in the north - the military component of Russia, (the Senkaku Islands) is trying to occupy China. With whom of them will our prime minister begin negotiations ...

If during the years of his tenure as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, the solution of the issue has not advanced a single step, then what do we expect from a person who represents the same party? It's time to look at the situation without illusions.
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  1. +16
    31 January 2021 09: 24
    It will be necessary and will post! And sooner or later the Su-57 will simply come to replace the old Su-shek.
    Surely we won't ask the Japanese for permission.
    Here on the island of Moneron some kind of movement started.
    There it is quite possible to make an airfield.
    But Sakhalin is generally "across the road" from Hokkaido, and there are plenty of airfields!
    1. +21
      31 January 2021 09: 39
      The so-called "northern territories" are actually a very convenient instrument of Japan's domestic policy - since smart people understand perfectly well that Russia will never give up the island, they artificially heat up this problem in order to control the prime ministers and the government - a little step away from the general line And that's all, criticism is immediately inflated - why the island was not returned? They immediately connect gorlopanov with marginal views and a sooo small brain, there are no less of them in Japan than in our country - let them scream their hearts out against someone! There you will not surprise anyone with a palace - you cannot have a palace under capitalism, but islands are an effective scarecrow! laughing
      1. +10
        31 January 2021 10: 45
        Eugene, hi !
        Quote: Finches
        smart people understand perfectly well that Russia will never give up the island

        And why are they attached to their prime ministers? Let us be "criticized" - we don't give a damn, we are used to it.
        Suga said he had "a frank conversation with Vladimir Putin" on the "Northern Territories" issue. In Russia, these statements of the Japanese prime minister were not commented on in any way, but now ordinary Japanese remembered them.
        We are educated people and, naturally, did not begin to retell what Putin could say to Suga on the issue of the Northern Territories. Otherwise, we would have had to "blast" Putin's entire response on TV. Well, Suga himself probably didn’t tell anyone either - it’s unpleasant to tell about yourself that you were sent to ..., and to ..., and with a twist ...
        1. +3
          31 January 2021 10: 59
          Igor! hi Totally agree!
        2. +1
          31 January 2021 17: 52
          We have a good translator)
          1. +1
            31 January 2021 21: 43
            Quote: Alien From
            We have a good translator)

            The main thing is educated ... laughing
      2. +6
        31 January 2021 11: 21
        There you will not surprise anyone with a palace - you cannot have a palace under capitalism, but islands are an effective scarecrow!

        World has gone mad! Conventionally, even if the palace is Putin and what ????? What is the crime, it means that Pugacheva, Stas Mikhailov and other buffoons have castles, this is normal, but the president of the Russian Federation is not allowed?
        As for the SU-57 in the Kuril Islands, why, for me Iskander enough on Sakhalin, obviously not for the Japanese, our new types of weapons, a lot of honor
        1. +7
          31 January 2021 11: 28
          About the palace - this is the lack of critical thinking among most of the youth! As for the aircraft, there are modern multipurpose Su-35 fighters at the Yasny airport on Iturup Island. So the Japanese can sleep peacefully! laughing
          1. +1
            31 January 2021 11: 59
            Placed on a rotational basis. Link at the maximum.
            IAP sat on the Burevestnik.
            The effect of presence is there and that's good.
        2. -1
          31 January 2021 17: 44
          Pugacheva and the buffoons themselves earn money for palaces, and state officials are clearly not doing it on their own salaries. And the no-fly zone + protection by the FSO forces also for state (our) money. That's the whole difference.
          1. 0
            3 February 2021 16: 44
            And is there really a FSO guard or you just have to throw in, and then let them figure it out?
    2. +2
      31 January 2021 09: 45
      Quote: Victor_B
      and there are a lot of airfields!

      Are you saying that they shouldn't stand idle?
      1. +8
        31 January 2021 09: 47
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Are you saying that they shouldn't stand idle?

        I want to say that there are aviation regiments on Sakhalin that we WILL re-equip on the Su-57!
        And the last thing that will interest us on this matter is the opinion of the Japanese!
        1. +1
          31 January 2021 09: 50
          Quote: Victor_B
          I want to say that the air regiments that we WILL rearm on the Su-57 are full!

          So am I about that.
          You only confirmed my words, but as always I forgot to put a smiley recourse request
        2. -1
          31 January 2021 11: 51
          Quote: Victor_B
          that there are aviation regiments on Sakhalin that we WILL re-equip on the Su-57!

          I would really like to read it not just about the "hats with which the foe is thrown" and not about the opinion some Japanese some kind of Japanese Sugi, because in these "sugi", as well as in "psaki", we are like "roymsi".
          therefore let's estimate the nearest possibilities really:
          By 2028, the Russian army should have at least 3 regiments (76 Su-57 aircraft), which will be equipped with these latest 5th generation multifunctional aviation complexes.

          How many will be placed on Sakhalin (in the Far East Military District) - only the Supreme Commander knows.
  2. +7
    31 January 2021 09: 24
    In Japan, nothing depends on the Japanese prime minister in foreign policy,
    - Japan is an occupied country and the Americans rule there.
    1. +6
      31 January 2021 10: 23
      the occupied were not given a word
    2. +1
      31 January 2021 10: 37
      Quote: Andobor
      In Japan, nothing depends on the Japanese prime minister in foreign policy,

      That's right, the Yankees clearly defined - "you have the economy, and we have everything else, our business is to indicate, to execute yours."
  3. +4
    31 January 2021 09: 25
    And before that, ordinary Japanese did not consider themselves deceived?
    How long have their prime ministers been carrying them in the slop?
    1. +3
      31 January 2021 10: 52
      Quote: Machete
      And before that, ordinary Japanese did not consider themselves deceived?
      How long have their prime ministers been carrying them in the slop?

      After the 6th and 9th September 1945, their prime ministers, along with ordinary Japanese, crawl in the American slops. The samurai are over ...
      1. +2
        31 January 2021 11: 15
        Their politicians are even more divorced than ours.
        1. +2
          31 January 2021 11: 31
          Quote: Machete
          Their politicians are even more divorced than ours.

          And all Japanese prime ministers, politicians, journalists, "experts" are like this -

          The Americans will start a spring - they rattle about the "Northern Territories". There is a crackle, no sense ...
          1. +1
            31 January 2021 11: 53
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            The Americans will start a spring - they rattle about the "Northern Territories". There is a crackle, no sense ...

            Aha. Like an old gramophone that also jams
  4. +6
    31 January 2021 09: 26
    Kuril Islands OUR, what we want there and place ...
    1. +2
      31 January 2021 09: 47
      Quote: svp67
      Kuril Islands OUR, what we want there and place ...

      And when and where it was so that the neighbors indicated to the owners of the apartment where and what furniture to put request
      1. +1
        31 January 2021 10: 25
        we know this furniture lol
        1. +1
          31 January 2021 11: 55
          Have Igor licked the video? lol
      2. +1
        31 January 2021 11: 41
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Quote: svp67
        Kuril Islands OUR, what we want there and place ...

        And when and where it was so that the neighbors indicated to the owners of the apartment where and what furniture to put request

        Now I have no neighbors through the wall - I live in my house. And in the late 80s he put his S-90s where he wanted. And none of the neighbors told me which wall to put them on. Not because they didn't give a fuck, but because they knew that I would send it to FIG ...

        Although ... In a panel house - what difference does it make to which wall the S-90 are? Walls from "Ace-Deetse" are shaking EVERYTHING. laughing And the neighbors were not scandalous. Thanks to them - they endured, waited until I grow up ...
        1. 0
          31 January 2021 11: 58
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          And the neighbors were not scandalous.

          Yes, people used to be more tolerant and more humane. Everyone knew perfectly well what everyone has at home and who bought what
          Down to who and where the apartment key is hiding laughing
          The secrets of the great were not, under the rug laughing
          1. +1
            31 January 2021 12: 57
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Down to who and where the apartment key is hiding

            Our neighbors on the "pocket" (panel nine-story building, "pocket" for two apartments) had a key to our apartment, and we - from theirs. In case the door is slammed, so that, like engineer Shchukin, not sit on the stairs. They gave their key to the neighbors after I came from school in the second grade, went out on some business to the common corridor and slammed the door. I sat under the door until my parents came home from work. crying

            Others were times. The people were different. Sworn "partners" are not so borzels. Neighbors neither from the west nor from the east - you could not hear ... Maybe the yapps even then wanted the "Northern Territories", but they said it in a whisper and only to his wife under the covers ...
            1. +1
              31 January 2021 13: 06
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              I sat under the door until my parents came home from work.

              And I had such a case Yes
              Yes, probably for many who found that time
  5. +2
    31 January 2021 09: 27
    It's time to look at the situation without illusions.
    And I also call on the forum members of the forum ... than I am worse than this Japanese ... let's look without illusions.
    The presence of American bases in Japan is a threat to our country, and our Kuril Islands are a guarantee that from Japan the enemy will be forced to break through the Kuril ridge ... and there our anti-ship defense will not allow them to do this ... so everything is fine, there are no illusions.
    1. -1
      31 January 2021 12: 15
      a guarantee that on the part of Japan the enemy will be forced to break through the Kuril ridge ....... which of the enemies will penetrate through the Kuril ridge .... states .... even hypothetically impossible ... the Japanese ... so there it is there is no one .... emergency work at the nuclear power plant fokusim has been standing still for 10 years ... you see the samurai have been tortured .... and then .. through the ridge ..... the maximum that shines for them is on the banks of Hokaido make ferris wheels for meditation on the Kuril Islands
  6. -1
    31 January 2021 09: 28
    One thing pleased us, not only the presidents lie to the Russian people, the Japanese prime ministers also regularly hang noodles.
    1. +3
      31 January 2021 10: 26
      oh, where is it wrong?
  7. +1
    31 January 2021 09: 29
    We will post, not post, or post this or that_ our case, but the second comment of the Japanese about the American heel on their samurai head, then this is another, main question. It is said: "The question on the Purchases is closed."
  8. +2
    31 January 2021 09: 30
    I'm thinking ... The Japanese prime minister is in a zugzwang position. Anyone and always. He, upon taking office, MUST make unrealistic promises. About the "Northern Territories". And then you can always "show" him. Although the role of kamikaze is familiar to them ...
  9. +6
    31 January 2021 09: 31
    I don't understand their displeasure.
    We learned how to live in two-by-two cages, work like convicts, observe corporate discipline and hierarchy, peep out at local TV shows and meditate on a photograph of Fujiyama.
    What the hell do you need to be completely happy?
  10. +3
    31 January 2021 09: 36
    The Japs were offered visa-free travel and practically offshore on the islands. They refused. They beat themselves with a stick.
  11. +2
    31 January 2021 09: 43
    Occupied by the most unbalanced, afraid to say a word against the invaders, the Yapas have been nervously urinating with boiling water for years from Russia's actions on Russian territory. Circus of the absurd.
    1. -1
      31 January 2021 10: 14
      Quote: stock buildbat
      Occupied by the most unbalanced, afraid to say a word against the invaders, the Yapas have been nervously urinating with boiling water for years from Russia's actions on Russian territory. Circus of the absurd.

      It reminded me of a good old film, in which the leading role was played by a famous wrestler at that time.
      To see strangers you need to wear special glasses.
      But they are not sold in Japan.
  12. +3
    31 January 2021 09: 45
    It's time for the Japanese to look at the world without illusions - the Kuril Islands are Russian territory and there will be no transfer of it to a part of Japan !!!
  13. HAM
    +3
    31 January 2021 09: 47
    Well, since there was a "frank conversation", then I'm even afraid to suggest where he was sent ... either to Argentina, or ....
    1. +3
      31 January 2021 10: 28
      .. either to Argentina, or ....

      to Armenia ???
      1. 0
        31 January 2021 11: 59
        Quote: novel xnumx
        .. either to Argentina, or ....

        to Armenia ???

        To the country of Limonia laughing
        1. +3
          31 January 2021 12: 13
          oh, I know one !!
          1. 0
            31 January 2021 12: 18
            Quote: novel xnumx
            oh, I know one !!

            Classic laughing
            Roman, hi
  14. +1
    31 January 2021 09: 49
    In general, most of the islands of the Kuril ridge should be turned into fortified areas with airfields and military bases so that Japan and the United States would not have any thoughts about the appropriation of our islands.
  15. +2
    31 January 2021 10: 02
    "The Russians will probably soon deploy Su-57 fighters on the islands":

    The United States overlaid Russia from the West with the Young-NATO, making them ardent Russophobes. And in the East they have a problem with this. Japan alone
    from which they squeeze all the juices so that it does not go on rapprochement with Russia. And for this, the United States has only one option, to pull the samurai by the thread - "islands". This is what every new prime minister of Japan promises to do, especially with the last name - Echidny Suga! recourse
    1. +2
      31 January 2021 10: 29
      well, yes, and like, South Korea itself
      1. 0
        31 January 2021 13: 29
        romance66 ...Well, yes, but like, South Korea itself.

        South Korea has another task, it is a "platform" for countering the United States in the APR, against the DPRK and China. Therefore, South Korea has no "claims" to Russia. (So ​​is Taiwan) hi .
    2. +1
      31 January 2021 13: 06
      Quote: askort154
      especially with the surname - Echidny Suga!

      good The phrase takes on a much deeper meaning if you put a comma after the word "snide" ... laughing

      Well, by example
      you cunning, uncle
      1. +2
        31 January 2021 14: 18
        Oh oh! dangerous!!!
  16. ANB
    +1
    31 January 2021 10: 09
    ... If during the years of his tenure as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, the solution of the issue has not advanced a single step, then what do we expect from a person who represents the same party? It's time to look at the situation without illusions.

    Yes, that's right. Get used to it without illusion.
    At the same time, start to get rid of the illusion that changing the ruling party will somehow help in the issue of the islands.
  17. +1
    31 January 2021 10: 13
    The Russians are likely to soon deploy a new generation of Su-57 fighters and other modern technology there.

    What else can the Russians do after your constant whining about the islands and the increase in the contingent at the US military bases in Japan? You don’t want to negotiate, and you don’t want to return Kolchak’s gold either ..))) Russia is forced to strengthen its military presence in the Far East ... There the Chinese are also trying to challenge something ..
    So everything is fine, the main thing is not to make sudden movements and stop angering the Russian "samurai" bear (do not forget the Kavntun group, which the USSR gouged out in 2 months and did not go further, although it should have been)
  18. -2
    31 January 2021 10: 14
    Oh, aphid, see article 67 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation. I will help:
    Article 67. The territory of the Russian Federation includes the territories
    The Constitution of the Russian Federation


    1. The territory of the Russian Federation includes the territories of its constituent entities, internal waters and the territorial sea, airspace above them. Federal territories may be created on the territory of the Russian Federation in accordance with federal law. The organization of public power in the federal territories is established by the indicated federal law <*>.

    2. The Russian Federation enjoys sovereign rights and exercises jurisdiction on the continental shelf and in the exclusive economic zone of the Russian Federation in the manner determined by federal law and international law.

    2.1. The Russian Federation ensures the protection of its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Actions (with the exception of delimitation, demarcation, redemarcation of the state border of the Russian Federation with neighboring states) aimed at alienating part of the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as calls for such actions, are not allowed <*>.

    3. The boundaries between the subjects of the Russian Federation may be changed with their mutual consent.
    - Cho cormorant then.
  19. -2
    31 January 2021 10: 16
    The islands specifically need to be mined with nuclear bombs. And the red button is in the Kremlin. Then all the weapons can be removed there, and only the border guards can be left. Also on the border with Poland in Kaliningrad. And in the Crimea, on the border with Ukraine. In case of WHAT to evacuate the population and say "Well, sorry" .... and press the button.
    1. 0
      31 January 2021 12: 01
      Quote: Angry
      Islands specifically need to be mined with nuclear bombs

      And send you there for permanent residence
      And then tell us kat is living on an atomic bomb
  20. -1
    31 January 2021 10: 18
    Yes, so the new prime minister of Japan has long been not Japanese, but a dummy FSB officer from the Buryat Republic.
  21. +1
    31 January 2021 10: 19
    What is such a special danger for the SU-57 for Nipponia compared to other aeropoans?
    A strange statement. For internal use
    1. 0
      31 January 2021 12: 03
      Quote: U-58
      Strange statement

      Actually, about the SU-57 from the comments taken request
  22. +1
    31 January 2021 10: 33
    but the "decisive measures" expected in Japan from the prime minister were not followed.
    What were you waiting for? Go to war in Russia? Wait, because patience and a little effort. Will crush your unrealizable desires.
  23. +1
    31 January 2021 10: 43
    The Mattress Makers decided to help Japan, and create a special group for the landing on the disputed islands. True, they say that these are islands of disputes between the PRC and Japan. But who believes in cowboys? request
    1. +1
      31 January 2021 12: 04
      Quote: fif21
      But who believes in cowboys?

      Their horses lol
  24. Ham
    +1
    31 January 2021 10: 50
    "northern territories" have long turned into a fetish among Japanese politicians - that suga, that abe got out only thanks to the Kuril people ... I believe that the next prime minister, in order to become prime minister, will "swear on his father's grave" to resolve the northern issue
    1. 0
      31 January 2021 12: 05
      Quote: Ham
      "swear on your father's grave"

      It will be plagiarism No.
      Will swear on grandfather's grave lol
  25. +2
    31 January 2021 11: 29
    It's nice that the Su-57 is a fetish for them. In general, Russia has a lot of things that can be placed in the Kuril Islands. And it is already being hosted. )))
  26. 0
    31 January 2021 11: 38
    These authorities are constantly promising us something about the islands. The Russians are likely to soon deploy a new generation of Su-57 fighters and other modern technology there. And what will the government say after that?


    In Japan, the population on the Internet is not much smarter than the Russian network establishment. fool
    Childhood naivety, tending to clinical infantilism, lack of critical thinking, and the belief that their opinion is generally interested in someone else lead to sad thoughts.
    1. 0
      31 January 2021 12: 02
      Maybe the Japanese are the same as we are, because the belief that the opinion of someone interests and moves to self-expression. Alice Yandex is probably interested in, and any people who want to better adjust their positions in topics, under the lumbago from different positions, and to improve general literacy in handling information. The Japanese have a simple and effective strategy with the right patience, they will push through this question until the answer matches their interests. They just need in this regard, something to oppose, to hammer the topic was painful.
  27. 0
    31 January 2021 11: 52
    It's time to look at the situation without illusions.

    Most sober comment
  28. 0
    31 January 2021 12: 24
    After the new Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga actually repeated the statements of his predecessor about "determination to negotiate with Russia on the return of the Northern Territories (as Tokyo calls the Russian South Kurils)," Japanese experts stepped up their comments on such initiatives. However, more than 4 months have passed since Suga took office and promises made to him, but the "decisive measures" expected in Japan from the prime minister did not follow. This led to a portion of criticism of the head of the Japanese cabinet of ministers.

    I think it would be very, very cool if Maria Zakharova PUBLICALLY AND LOUDLY asked the previous prime minister a question:
    Mr. Shinzo Abe! As we learned from the media, as Prime Minister of Japan, you swore on your father's grave that you would return the islands to Japan. You announced your oath to both your compatriots and the whole world, but you did not keep your oath.
    In such a situation, the shame of an unfulfilled vow should overwhelm you and be unbearable.
    As we understand, in order to restore the tainted honor, you, as a true and noble son of Japan, must commit sipuku.
    The President of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, is ready to immediately come to you in Japan in order to support you in performing this ceremony, worthy only of a real valiant and noble son of Japan.

    I think that after such a statement, many politicians in Japan would have refrained from overly bravura statements regarding the Kuril Islands and their transfer to Japan.
  29. 0
    31 January 2021 12: 28
    During the Soviet era, there was an air defense regiment in the Kuriles on about. Iturup. And no pancake-pancake from the Japanese "partners" was not. At the time of the EBN everything was closed and removed, they began to make tricks and questions about the Northern Territories came to the "partners" in their heads .... Actually, we are still at war with them. So the questions about who, where and when are absolutely inappropriate, especially for such "partners" ...
  30. +2
    31 January 2021 14: 46
    determination to negotiate with Russia on the return of the Northern Territories

    Ha ha ha. One and the same song for several decades, but things are still there. Wake up Japanese! You will not see the Kuril Islands. Don't even dream!
  31. +2
    31 January 2021 14: 50
    Shinzo Abe. Tom was recalled that he swore on the grave of his own father, stating that he would return the "Northern Territories"

    He did not take the territory, he did not keep his oath, hara-kiri (or what is it called there?) Did not. laughing
    The Japanese wake up, your government is deceiving you! Go to the Maidan, and we will help you with something, for example, as moral damage, so be it, we will take Hokkaido wassat bully
  32. 0
    31 January 2021 16: 20
    "The Russians will probably soon deploy Su-57 fighters on the islands"
    What for? In case of a big mess, Russia will get Japan from anywhere in the world.
  33. 0
    31 January 2021 18: 41
    "The Russians will probably soon deploy Su-57 fighters on the islands": in Japan, the prime minister is criticized for the "Kuril issue"


    So what? Our territories, we do what we want ..

    Shinzo Abe. Tom was recalled that he swore on the grave of his own father, stating that he would return the "Northern Territories". Yoshihide Suga has not yet sworn oaths on the graves of his ancestors, but he spoke to the heads of the northern prefectures of Japan with assurances of his readiness to "intensify the process of returning the islands." At the same time, Suga said that he had a "frank conversation with Vladimir Putin" on the issue of the "Northern Territories"


    A frank message far and long? One balabol promised, but had to open his belly, the second barks with Putin, as if he imagines himself immortal.

    This is Japan's real relationship with Russia.
    The Japanese prime minister runs to the Russian president like a shitty dog))

  34. 0
    31 January 2021 22: 04
    A bad idea knocks off the last brains of the Japanese, who, instead of developing, passed into the stage of savagery, the Americans also knocked off their memory.
  35. 0
    1 February 2021 08: 24
    sooner or later will be placed lol
    I would also place strategists there, well, to fly closer, not against Japan, but against Somali pirates essno wassat
  36. 0
    1 February 2021 19: 27
    The results of the last war m. revised only as a result of a new war and nothing else. Is there anyone in Japan who wants to fight? wassat