The Ministry of Defense disclosed the tactical and technical data of the new PGRK "Yars-S"

For the first time, the Russian military department published data on the new Yars-S mobile ground-based missile system (PGRK), which is being supplied to the Strategic Missile Forces.

Information in the form of a slide with the data of the complex was demonstrated during the Single Day of Acceptance of Military Products, held by the military department on Friday.

According to the slide, the caliber of an intercontinental ballistic missile is 1,86 m, the length is 17,8 m. The launch weight is 46 thousand kg, of which 1250 kg. falls on the payload. Solid-fuel ICBM, declared range - up to 10 thousand km. Details of the Yars-S ICBM warhead were not provided.

It is noted that data on the new PGRK have not been officially published anywhere before.

Earlier it was reported that the new Yars-S PGRK was completely re-equipped with the Yoshkar-Ola missile formation (the Kiev-Zhitomir order of Kutuzov, III degree missile division) and the Barnaul missile division (35th Red Banner missile division, orders of Kutuzov and Alexander Nevsky division) is completing the rearmament ... By the end of this year, the Yars-S mobile systems will enter service with another missile regiment of the Barnaul division.

The Yars-S complexes are being replaced in the Strategic Missile Forces by the Topol ICBMs, which have already exhausted their resource. PGRK "Yars" (PC-24) allow launches from sites where "Topol" could be on duty only after special engineering equipment. In the complex, the characteristics of communications and the base chassis have improved, the missile itself has become more powerful, while remaining practically invulnerable to the existing missile defense system of a potential enemy.

Comments

[Victor_B]

Yars-S is good!

The launch weight is 46 thousand kg, the length is 17,8 m

It is quite possible to push a carriage into the railway car, if it is shorter by 2,5 m.

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Victor_B

Yars-S is good!

Not. not this way. It is necessary:
"YAYAYAYAYARS bigoooo - this is goodoooo!" -type Umaturman!

[APASUS]

Quote: Victor_B

It is quite possible to push a carriage into the railway car, if it is shorter by 2,5 m.

Car model 11-1709, its dimensions are 18000

[Victor_B]

Still, it is better in the most standard. Yes, the kind to be zachuhany!
So that the railroad workers do not know that the train is ROCKET!
How many of their lettered military men ride on the railway?

[Sahalinets]

What about security? There is either a special regime or expect trouble.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Sahalinets

What about security? There is either a special regime or expect trouble.

Well, options are always possible ...

[Konnick]

The BRZhK was easy to distinguish. There, 8-axle car bogies were tied with wires from crack sensors on the casting. The railroad workers knew. Even if you disguise it in an ordinary container, you still need a platform of the required carrying capacity and sensors for monitoring the state of the bearing elements.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Konnick

The BRZhK was easy to distinguish.

So we are talking about something that is not yet there!
Maybe it never will ...

[Konnick]

And I'm not talking about the mythical, I'm talking about the former I handed over carts from BRZhK to scrap metal. It seems simple, disguised and that's it. And there are cover trains and special platforms, and much more.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Konnick

And I'm not talking about the mythical, I'm talking about the former.

So it never had Yars with a starting mass of 46 tons, but Molodets with a starting mass of 105 tons.
However, it is more than twice as easy!

[tralflot1832]

Somewhere I read diesel locomotive drivers at Molodtsy had the rank of not lower than lieutenant colonel.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: tralflot1832

Somewhere I read diesel locomotive drivers at Molodtsy had the rank of not lower than lieutenant colonel.

Lieutenant Colonel Fireman? That's cool ! Well, what? There were periods in the history of our Armed Forces when colonels and generals had nowhere to go!

[kov123]

Not. The fireman is an intelligent major. And the foreman of the train is a solid general. And they all graduated from the higher military fire school ...

[ccsr]

Quote: Konnick

It seems simple, disguised and that's it. And there are cover trains and special platforms, and much more.

All of you correctly describe this, and the competent military knew that these complexes are not so "invisible" for modern intelligence. Moreover, there was a huge problem in detecting sensors-recorders that the enemy's agents could install on the main routes of movement of these complexes. Their weight was so different from standard wagons that the overload was immediately detected by a simple sensor. That is why they gradually lost interest in this idea, tk. did not see the point of developing this direction, also because there was no longer enough money. I think that now it is unlikely that they will return to this - now the time interval from the command to the launch is more important than where the launch itself will be made from.

[Alexander Lysenko]

And who installed the sensors?

[ccsr]

Quote: Alexander Lysenko

And who installed the sensors?

Foreign agents, as well as some "scientists" or "specialists" who come to us in different exchanges.

[Reserve buildbat]

The only question is how to see from the satellite how many wheels there are on the carts
And passing by, I also easily distinguished BZHRK from ordinary trains.

[clerk]

When you passed by, there were no cell phones with the Internet yet.

[Reserve buildbat]

You can’t argue here Then, not everyone had home phones

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Victor_B

Still, it is better in the most standard. Yes, the kind to be zachuhany!
So that the railroad workers do not know that the train is ROCKET!
How many of their lettered military men ride on the railway?

Of course they will not know, well, except perhaps to think about why there are 2 times more wheelsets

[GRIGORIY76]

Will not fit. The length of the rocket is 17,8 without a container, with it more, plus a lifting mechanism. A carriage is needed at least 25 meters.

[YOUR]

There was a good fellow, there was Barguzin, but for some unknown reason in 2017 all work was stopped.

On March 22, 2018, TASS, citing a source in the RF Ministry of Defense, reported that the mobile missile system RS-26 Rubezh (Avangard) and the Barguzin BZHRK were excluded from the state armaments program until 2027 (GPV-27)

[Sergey39]

Who knows what is actually excluded and what is included.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Sergey39

Who knows what is actually excluded and what is included.

And who really knows the real characteristics of these products. In contrast to the declared ones.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Victor_B

It is quite possible to push a carriage into the railway car, if it is shorter by 2,5 m.

Quite a real task: to make the rocket a little thicker (like our naval ones), and an inflatable nose cone (as was the case with the RT-23 UTTH "Molodets" (NATO "Scalpel"))

[askort154]

The time has come to take on "Barguzin", the "exceptional" are most afraid of him.
And then they become impudent by leaps and bounds.

[Zomanus]

Just "Barguzin" is banned START-3. If the Americans refused to renew it, then yes, it could be developed without hiding.

[engineer74]

EMNIP, the test contract prohibits. And so, draw, count, simulate, prepare production documentation ... And all this, of course, is not included in the GPV - since this is "pure science" and a different funding item

[Zomanus]

So that's what I'm talking about. Maybe it's all developed and is waiting in the wings to be embodied in iron.

[sergo1914]

Quote: Zomanus

Just "Barguzin" is banned START-3. If the Americans refused to renew it, then yes, it could be developed without hiding.

There seemed to be a restriction on doorways. If it is less than the norm - sorry comrades sir inspectors - there is no move. During the night everything was laid. And they develop frying pans and pressure cookers there. Honestly.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: askort154

The time has come to take on "Barguzin", the "exceptional" are most afraid of him.
And then they become impudent by leaps and bounds.

See the economy don't strain

[SAG]

The Yars-S complexes are being replaced in the Strategic Missile Forces of the Topol ICBMs, which have already exhausted their resource

I thought all the poplars have long been replaced maximum poplar-M remained somewhere ...

[bairat]

What cities of a probable overseas enemy fall within a radius of 10 thousand kilometers, if you count from Yoshkar Ola?

[minus]

Also immediately interested) Google gives 7904 km to New York) Other cities did not look. But obviously the US east coast will cover if needed)
And the characteristics of 10000 km can also be underestimated. We cannot know for sure. There, the Americans say about Minuteman 3 that it flies up to 15000 km. However, they have a smaller rocket.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Minus

We cannot know for sure. There, the Americans say about Minuteman 3 that it flies up to 15000 km.

Our naval missile "Sineva" in terms of performance characteristics should fly at 8300 km, and fired at a distance, flew 11 km. I cannot guarantee whether it flew with a warhead or not, but the Americans also have it.

[tralflot1832]

Excuse me, I won't spoil your dream with this information? Measured the distance across the North Pole from the mines in Siberia was not enough to Miami 500 km, with the declared range of 10 thousand km.

[minus]

So we are talking about a mobile complex, and not about a mine option. And not only in the states we have "friends"

[tralflot1832]

And the mine and mobile have different ranges? Friends in Europe will have enough Caliber. And if the States does not return to the treaty on medium-range missiles, maybe something ballistic will fly.

[minus]

Do you really know how different they are? Aren't there any restrictions, for example, in terms of weight and dimensions for pgrk? Or let's say the difference between Yars and Yars-s, which is discussed in the article? And the comparison with a subsonic cruise missile is generally incorrect ...

[tralflot1832]

There are too many targets for ICBMs in the United States. This arsenal may not be enough to cause irreparable damage. How many states have million-plus cities, airfields, power plants and oil refineries? Europe still needs.

[minus]

I'm talking about the fact that a caliber with a range of flight .. well, let it be 2500 km .... And the cruise speed of Mach 0.8 how much will fly ???? And deployment near borders poses other threats ...

[Lycan]

You will also have to bypass the missile defense zones. Moreover, many times.

[Alexander Lysenko]

We are not stupid, there are more targets than missiles.

[tralflot1832]

I don't have a globe, but what if it's the shortest path across the North Pole? I think it'll get to Florida.

[Alexander Lysenko]

We read Timokhin, glazing will not work.

[tralflot1832]

It will definitely not work! We reboot that we cannot even inflict irreparable damage! How many airfields and cities with millionaires they have, in which not only Coca Cola is made!

[ccsr]

Quote: Alexander Lysenko

We read Timokhin, glazing will not work.

And this is that a great military specialist in the use of nuclear weapons? Yes, there only secondary damaging factors will lead to serious consequences, because fires throughout the country cannot be extinguished for months, and man-made disasters will shake residents so much that it will no longer be possible to manage them to eliminate the consequences. After Katrina, they still cannot completely restore New Orleans, and after the fires in California, it became clear to everyone that many would burn with a bright flame there, not from nuclear weapons, but from fires.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: bairat

What cities of a probable overseas enemy fall within a radius of 10 thousand kilometers, if you count from Yoshkar Ola?

Peking

[svoit]

the caliber of an intercontinental ballistic missile is 1,86 m, the length is 17,8 m. The launch weight is 46 thousand kg, of which 1250 kg. falls on the payload.

The rocket is certainly good, but very big, I would still like to be smaller, well, at least like Minuteman-3, and it would be easier to transport and more could be done ...
And if it were even a little easier, then maybe foreign tractors could be abandoned.
(Unless, of course, there is no task yet, make it out of ours, although for me it's time)

Quote: askort154

Astala it's time to take on "Barguzin",

Well, I think there is some use in it, after all, the railway grid is not very good for us ...

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: svoit

The rocket is certainly good, but it's very big, I would still like to be smaller, well, at least like Minuteman-3

Fuck would he know, what is it less?
The length of the missile with a warhead, m - 18,3
Maximum rocket diameter, m - 1,67
Yars has:

The launch weight is 46 thousand kg, of which 1250 kg. falls on the payload.

Minuteman - 3:
Throwing weight of the warhead, t - 1,15
Yars - PGRK, Minuteman-3 - mine-based.

[mark1]

Quote: svoit

The rocket is certainly good, but it's too big, I would still like to be smaller,

Will the railroad "mace" suit?

[voronkov]

Rearmament of the Strategic Missile Forces is underway and at a good pace .. This is Russia's insurance! As the saying goes, "After us, nothing .." It was not for nothing that Biden was the first to call Putin and immediately agreed to all Moscow's conditions for limiting armaments .. Suddenly the Russians would come up with something else))))

[Alexander Lysenko]

If only missiles and warheads are tripled. But it's not fucking cheap.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: voronkov

Rearmament of the Strategic Missile Forces is underway and at a good pace .. This is Russia's insurance! As the saying goes, "After us, nothing .." It was not for nothing that Biden was the first to call Putin and immediately agreed to all Moscow's conditions for limiting armaments .. Suddenly the Russians would come up with something else))))

What were the conditions?

[Nyrobsky]

The more missiles, good and different, the less temptations the enemy has.

[Vlad5307]

Quote: Konnick

The BRZhK was easy to distinguish. There, 8-axle car bogies were tied with wires from crack sensors on the casting. The railroad workers knew. Even if you disguise it in an ordinary container, you still need a platform of the required carrying capacity and sensors for monitoring the state of the bearing elements.

So the previous version weighed more than 60 tons, and this version is quite within the dimensions and weight of a refrigerator-type car. This allows its operation practically on the entire railway network of the Russian Federation.

[Vadim Ananyin]

Why do we need a world without Russia!

[tralflot1832]

Payload 50 kg more than that of Poplar M. So with MIRV everything is fine with YARS.

[Alexander Lysenko]

50 kg decide

[tralflot1832]

False targets! Option?

[ccsr]

Quote: Alexander Lysenko

50 kg decide

Here's what decided everything for one city back in Soviet times:

[Konnick]

Quote: Vlad5307

Quote: Konnick

The BRZhK was easy to distinguish. There, 8-axle car bogies were tied with wires from crack sensors on the casting. The railroad workers knew. Even if you disguise it in an ordinary container, you still need a platform of the required carrying capacity and sensors for monitoring the state of the bearing elements.

So the previous version weighed more than 60 tons, and this version is quite within the dimensions and weight of a refrigerator-type car. This allows its operation practically on the entire railway network of the Russian Federation.

8-axle tank car for oil products. Carrying capacity - 120 tons. Wagon weight (container) - 48,8 tons. Body volume - 140 m3. Model 15-880. 8-axle tank car for oil products.
The carts were used from this tank, only the sensors were molded. Permissible axle load of up to 25 tons as for conventional wagons. There were only restrictions on the radius of the path.

[svp67]

Yars-S

YARS is short for Nuclear Deterrent Missile ...

[Vlad5307]

Quote: svp67

Yars-S

YARS is short for Nuclear Deterrent Missile ...

It is necessary to add the letter H at the end - there will be a containment of the rapist!

[ccsr]

According to the slide, intercontinental ballistic missile caliber is 1,86 m,

It seems that I am hopelessly behind the times - for the first time I hear that ballistic missiles have a caliber. Or is it a blunder of those who wrote the article, or something has changed in our military science ...
Interestingly, editors on VO look at what terminology the authors use?

[Sergey Valov]

This is the illiteracy of both who wrote and who missed, which has already become practically the norm.

[Aag]

Quote: ccsr

According to the slide, intercontinental ballistic missile caliber is 1,86 m,

It seems that I am hopelessly behind the times - for the first time I hear that ballistic missiles have a caliber. Or is it a blunder of those who wrote the article, or something has changed in our military science ...
Interestingly, editors on VO look at what terminology the authors use?

And in the article, in the list of rearmed on "Yars" they lost the easternmost, 29th Rd (Irkutsk).
The military unit itself wrote about the completion of the rearmament not so long ago.
The article itself, word for word, flashes in other sources as well. With the same disregard for letters, indices, terminology ... Here's how to understand "... the rocket itself has become more powerful ..."? What do I mean? Payload mass (RH), its throw distance, speed? In short, noise ...

[Old26]

Quote: Zomanus

Just "Barguzin" is banned START-3. If the Americans refused to renew it, then yes, it could be developed without hiding.

Can you cite that article in the START-3 treaty and protocol, where the ban on BZHRK was announced?
And how can the complex, which began to be developed a year or two after the conclusion of the contract, be prohibited?

Quote: engineer74

EMNIP, the test contract prohibits.

And the test does not prohibit.

Quote: SAG

The Yars-S complexes are being replaced in the Strategic Missile Forces of the Topol ICBMs, which have already exhausted their resource

I thought all the poplars have long been replaced maximum poplar-M remained somewhere ...

No, it's not over yet. In particular, they are still in the Rezhitsa division, which has not yet been rearmed.

Quote: bairat

What cities of a probable overseas enemy fall within a radius of 10 thousand kilometers, if you count from Yoshkar Ola?

All

Quote: ROSS 42

Quote: svoit

The rocket is certainly good, but it's very big, I would still like to be smaller, well, at least like Minuteman-3

Fuck would he know, what is it less?
The length of the missile with a warhead, m - 18,3
Maximum rocket diameter, m - 1,67
Yars has:

The launch weight is 46 thousand kg, of which 1250 kg. falls on the payload.

Minuteman - 3:
Throwing weight of the warhead, t - 1,15
Yars - PGRK, Minuteman-3 - mine-based.

In the starting mass

Quote: tralflot1832

Payload 50 kg more than that of Poplar M. So with MIRV everything is fine with YARS.

I think that the declared parameters, such as range, starting and throwing weight, do not quite correspond to reality.

[Old26]

Quote: voronkov

Rearmament of the Strategic Missile Forces is going on at a good pace.

It is difficult to call such rates "good". In 2021, it is planned to put 13 units on combat duty (of which 2 are Avangard). In fact, "Yarsov" for the rearmament of the 1st regiment of the PGRK. And judging by the last years, several regiments will be rearmed at once, but "by divisional"

Quote: Minus

Do you really know how different they are? Aren't there any restrictions, for example, in terms of weight and dimensions for pgrk? Or let's say the difference between Yars and Yars-s, which is discussed in the article? And the comparison with a subsonic cruise missile is generally incorrect ...

There are no restrictions on weight and dimensions for PGRK. There are only boundary parameters, according to which the rocket is considered not a modification of the previous one, but a new one. What is the difference between rockets for PGRK and silos - no one will tell you for sure. TPK may differ, since mine and mobile have different operating conditions and possibly different protection against PFYA, possibly differ in combat control means. The difference between "Yars" and "Yars-S" is not voiced, just as the difference between "Yars" and "Yars-M" is not voiced. There are differences, since these complexes are modernization of the base, but how much and what - HZ

Quote: tralflot1832

There are too many targets for ICBMs in the United States. This arsenal may not be enough to cause irreparable damage. How many states have million-plus cities, airfields, power plants and oil refineries? Europe still needs.

Not so much. 9 cities with a population of over one million, 28 large cities and industrial centers, 25 large power plants, 22 large transport hubs, about 80 military facilities (not counting the areas where ICBMs are deployed). About 165-170 goals. Depending on the size - a different number of BBs. According to analysts - from 270 to 430.
Less in Europe. According to the same methodology, there are 26 goals in Britain, 36 in France, and 62 in Germany. How many in Italy, Spain and other countries should be counted

Quote: Minus

I'm talking about the fact that a caliber with a range of flight .. well, let it be 2500 km .... And the cruise speed of Mach 0.8 how much will fly ???? And deployment near borders poses other threats ...

2,6 hours

[agond]

However, it is interesting how the P-24 turned out to be shorter than the RS-12M2 by as much as 5.2 m !!! this is with their almost identical diameters and starting weight, while it is still believed that they are as unified as possible, and their transport vehicles are similar, wheel arrangement 16x16

[Aag]

After your comments on the Strategic Missile Forces, there is usually nothing more to write.
There are some considerations for:
"judging by the last years, several regiments will be rearmed at once, but" by divisional ... ".
Apparently, they do this to retrain l / s "without interrupting production", classes in the regiment can be organized on the basis of one division, and not let the regiments pass through training centers, as it was during the rearmament from "Pioneers" to "Topol". Surely the unification of the units, the tactics of use allow (one family). Reducing the BG is minimal, saving time and money.

[Old26]

Quote: agond

However, it is interesting how the P-24 turned out to be shorter than the RS-12M2 by as much as 5.2 m !!! this is with their almost identical diameters and starting weight, while it is still believed that they are as unified as possible, and their transport vehicles are similar, wheel arrangement 16x16

Dear agond! I already wrote, somewhat above, that

I think that the declared parameters, such as range, starting and throwing weight, do not quite correspond to reality.

The length indicated in the message is almost 100% the length without the head and the stage of dilution. Starting and throwing too, as it seems to me, does not correspond to reality. As well as the range

[agond]

Quote: Old26

The length indicated in the message is almost 100% the length without the head and the stage of dilution.

Let it be so, the Russian military department in the published ones indicated the length of a part of the whole, but 5.2m is a lot, for comparison, Gagarin Vostok-1 had a length of 4.4m

[Old26]

Quote: agond

Quote: Old26

The length indicated in the message is almost 100% the length without the head and the stage of dilution.

Let it be so, the Russian military department in the published ones indicated the length of a part of the whole, but 5.2m is a lot, for comparison, Gagarin Vostok-1 had a length of 4.4m

Well, the head part of EMNIP includes
1. APB (aggregate-instrument block)
2. Stage of breeding with warheads
3. The head fairing itself (because of its configuration, it can give the desired 5 meters)
In short. The data is not entirely correct.

[Andrey.AN]

The advantage of the American "preemptive strike" is that they have more time to take the people away from the attack, but the fact is, we will bury everyone.

[Dzafdet]

They shortened it by about 4 meters. And with BB, everything is clear: up to 6 BB, like Bulava ...

[Old26]

Quote: Dzafdet

They shortened it by about 4 meters. And with BB, everything is clear: up to 6 BB, like Bulava ...

I will repeat. This is nonsense - shortened by 4 meters. In-1 - the length is less by 4,4-5 meters. Secondly - these noodles, which were hung on our ears. This is the length of the Yars without the head. And they happily forgot about her.
What is there - is still unknown. Maybe 6 NUBB, as on the base "Yars", and maybe some other options. For example, what Solomonov once spoke about. About the "busless" breeding system. We don't know it yet

[Old26]

Quote: Alexander Lysenko

50 kg decide

What do they decide? IMHO figure taken from the lantern. For its predecessor, the monoblock "Topol-M", claimed a "payload" of 1200-1250 kg. And here the range of the base "Yars" is more than 1000 km more than that of the monoblock "Topol", and 6 BB instead of one, and plus the KSP missile defense - the same "payload" and 3 tons less launch weight ??? Not funny. Even with the terminology - a blatant blunder. NO in the Strategic Missile Forces such a thing as "payload" ... NO. In space technology - yes, there is, even in the missile forces (not the Strategic Missile Forces) - there is. But in RVSN NO FROM THE WORD AT ALL... Therefore, 1250 kg "payload" is an outright blunder (if not a fake)

[yfast]

Characteristics published to study the market for YARS-E?