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MossadThe terrorist who woke up from the squeak of the door and the head of one of the opposition groups, Abu Jihad, managed only to lift his head from the pillow, as it was stitched in several queues. The wife who slept nearby woke up from sleep at the moment when the attack aircraft stopped firing. Sure that they would kill her too, she froze, paralyzed with horror. However, the purpose of the raiders was only her husband. Another moment, and Mrs. Um was left alone about the bedroom. Nearby, covered with blood, lay the spouse, holed with seven dozen 9-mm caliber bullets.


From the moment of penetration into the villa and ending with the exit from it into the courtyard, the whole operation took 13 seconds - less on 9 than during the “dress rehearsal”. This reserve of time was enough to take several packs of secret documents from Abu Jihad’s office. A minute later, the members of all the groups were sitting in cars racing towards Ras Carthage. Return to the ships happened without incident. Corvettes immediately headed for Israel. On the shore remained empty cars.

It took a long time for Abu Jihad’s newly-minted widow to recover. While she woke up, while unsuccessfully trying to call the police, woke up her daughter and she called for help from the Palestinians, while they began to search the area, the ships managed to get far. And in the afternoon Tunisia was left by those agents who arrived here to support the operation under the guise of tourists.

This is how the Mossad conducts its secret fighting against the enemies of Israel around the world. Neither time nor distance save those who raised their hands on the Jewish state and its citizens. Retribution is inevitable!

It must be said that when a terrorist act is committed with grave consequences for Israel, retaliatory actions begin only after those to whom this task is entrusted prove that the terrorist commander is actually installed, accessible and vulnerable. Then the Mossad plan goes to the very top, to the Prime Minister or the Minister of Defense. "Mossad" does not kill anyone on a whim. An interesting book by D. Raviv and I. Melman, “The Spy Is Myself”, describes in detail the official procedure prior to obtaining a license to kill. There is a special committee in the Knesset (the Israeli parliament) that deals with such issues before they are approved by the first leaders of the state.

The stories about the secret service "Mossad" (in Hebrew, this abbreviation stands for "Institute for Security and Special Tasks") are often perceived as detective novels. The most successful, most effective, most legendary, most mysterious intelligence service of the world - as it was just not called! Her история - an integral, very significant part of the history of the national formation of the state of Israel. For all fifty years of its existence, it has been waging an endless war for survival with Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq and other Arab states.

The global Arab-Israeli conflict (eight wars from 1948) took the lives of 20 thousands of Israelis; about a hundred thousand were injured - terrible numbers, if we consider that the population of the Jewish state is less than eight million people. Israel also has to confront fierce Palestinian and Lebanese terror. Only one explosive device in Israel for the year neutralizes more than 350, an average of one per day!

Most analysts believe that if it were not for the tremendous efforts, the professionalism and unique capabilities of the Mossad, as well as other secret services of Israel, there would have been more blood spilled.

Invariably at the forefront of the secret war, the Mossad has always remained a mystery to all world intelligence services, from the American CIA to the Soviet KGB, evoking scornful respect from its enemies in the Arab world and the green envy of its Western allies. So what is the Mossad?

“Separating facts from inventions about the Mossad is a truly titanic task,” says one of its leaders. “Only information on the largest cases, that it’s impossible to conceal, is leaking out. The rest is a mystery.” “Mossad” without myths is brilliant victories and bitter defeats, it is also samples of heroic self-sacrifice. Agents are not only Jews: people of different nationalities work at Mossad. Among them are the most beautiful women of the planet and the most cunning men in the world. They do things that make James Bond’s screen adventures pale.

There was not yet a spy organization in the world that would have so affected the development of the intelligence craft itself - a remarkable achievement, especially considering the capabilities of the Israeli intelligence services incomparable to the musculature of the CIA and KGB, with the span of the intelligence networks of the British MI-6. None of the intelligence services was created in such cramped conditions as the Mossad. But no state on earth can compare with Israel in the ability to coordinate the country's human and technical resources in such a way as to maximize their national security.

Common ideas about the harsh pragmatism of Israeli life and the constant readiness of Israelis for self-sacrifice in the name of national interests are close to the truth. Israel was born after the Nazi genocide, after the terrible war and the great national tragedy (six million murdered Jews - for those who forgot about it). In a young state, surrounded by a ring of hostile Arab countries, a triumvirate of security agencies was formed, designed to make the most effective use of the only advantage over the enemy - the intellectual one. The leading position in this trinity (Aman, Shin Bet and Mossad) is occupied by foreign intelligence.

The Mossad service originated from a secret organization of the same name that engaged in exporting Jews to Palestine during the dark days of World War II and later, during the years of the immigration quarantine imposed by Great Britain. Men and women who were sent to all corners of the globe to ensure emigration to Palestine and procurement weapons, did not learn their craft in spy schools. They acted in a social environment, often unfriendly towards them, using the mind, common sense, and a lot of life experience. They understood that the most important guarantee of their success and survival is absolute secrecy. Perfect conspiracy has since been regarded as the Mossad brand name.

The first head of this organization was Rnven Shiluh - a rare trick man who worked during the war with the British, and after it ended, established close personal relationships with leading representatives of American intelligence. Shiluh understood that he had at his disposal an incredible source of professional personnel. This could not boast of any national security service. Mossad possessed potential operatives from hundreds of countries that spoke hundreds of languages, knew the culture and customs of almost all the peoples of the Earth. Jews can pass for Germans, Italians, Russians, Mexicans, Arabs — anyone.

Shiluh knew that there were no better weapons than a tenacious Jewish mind, and he understood that patriotism, devotion to the Jewish state was fueled by religious fervor. These people will never betray, they will make excellent agents. And he was spreading his network around the world: in the USA and in the USSR, in Argentina and in China, in Europe and in the Far East. Not to mention the near Arab environment.

At one time, the second commander of the Mossad gained greater fame. a native of Russia named Izsr Hirsl. It was this stunted intelligence genius who turned the Mossad from a regional force into an equal player of an international spy game.

The former head of Shin Pet, Hersl demanded absolute loyalty to Israel and fantastic efficiency from its people. Most of all, he hated Soviet agents and became famous for exposing several KGB spies at the Ministry of Defense and other government agencies each year. Hersl's most impressive accomplishments are the interception of Khrushchev’s famous letter exposing Stalin in 1956 and the daring abduction of the Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann from Buenos Aires in I960. “Eichmann’s abduction made Mossad famous,” says a retired Israeli intelligence officer. “They shot films about this operation. The international prestige of Israel has increased immeasurably: they used to treat us like some kind of hole in the desert, and now everyone has learned that we are a great nation with amazing secret service! * In 1962, Harel was replaced by a professional military, Major General Meyer Amnt. Under him, the role of the lead in the triumvirate of the security services finally passed on to the Mossad.

The victory in the six-day 1967 war of the year is largely due to his department, especially the two agents, who are rightfully considered to be the most prominent spies of the 20th century. The first is Eli Kogan, an Egyptian Jew who was sent to work illegally in Syria under the name of Kamal Amin Taabet. This intelligence officer, who possessed a sharp mind, photographic memory and incredible courage, so deeply intruded into the Syrian military-state apparatus that he was even considered a candidate for the post of defense minister of Syria! "Mossad" received from him a huge amount of invaluable information about the armed forces of Syria and the defense system of the Golan Heights. Kogan worked wonders, but he went too far. With the help of the Soviet GRU, the Syrian counterintelligence exposed him and arrested him at the time of the transfer of the next encryption. Kogan was brutally tortured and hanged in Damascus.

Amita's second super spy is Wolfgang Lotz. German Jew with impeccable manners of an aristocrat, who adored thoroughbred horses and champagne. Lotz played a difficult game with the highest military ranks of Egypt. He transferred the collected information to Tel Aviv with the help of a transmitter hidden in a small attache case. (Egyptian counterintelligence, again with the help of the GRU, tracked down). Lipa and arrested with his wife. After the Six Day War, Lotz and his wife were traded for 5 thousands of Egyptian prisoners of war. The cost of the transaction clearly indicates the value of the person.

It must be said that, unlike the CIA, the Soviet GRU, the British, Chinese, French intelligence services, Mossad does not rely on the latest technologies like satellites and computers to collect information. Mossad prefers people. People can be trusted, cars - no. Trust is the holy of holies of the Israeli intelligence community. Moreover, under Snlukh and Hersle, the Mossad service was a small, almost family structure in which everyone knew each other perfectly. Amit turned the Mossad into an organized state machine with a reliable personnel base, a sufficiently numerous professional elite and good technical support. Thanks to his reforms, the Mossad, retaining all its strengths, has risen to a new qualitative level.

One of the most famous operations of the Mossad is the work of strike groups that combed the whole of Europe after the tragedy of the Munich Olympics. September 5 1972 terrorists from the Palestinian organization "Black September" with the help of intelligence agents of the GDR "Stasi" captured almost the entire Olympic team in Israel. Later, in the Munich Airport, they coolly killed eleven athletes. The world community shuddered with horror. Israel had to take revenge. Sanction to destroy the organizers of the Munich massacre secret services received directly from the government Golda Menr.

Of the fighters of the special units, “Sayrat Matkal,” shock groups were created under such romantic code names as “Black Nurses”, “Wrath of God”, “The 101 Team” and “The Avenger”. They were ordered not only to avenge Munich, but also generally to cut off all the heads of the Black September hydra, once and for all put an end to this terrorist organization. It was not a secret for anyone that Black September belonged to the PLO. but it was a special, unofficial combat unit of Yasser Arafat, designed for the secret conduct of the most audacious and bloody actions. And the Israeli government did not spare the organization or the forces to defeat the organization, creating an important precedent for a large-scale offensive against terrorism.

The Cyrzt Matkal strike groups destroyed the Black September terrorist nests throughout Europe and the Middle East. 12 bullets from the "Beretta" received Call Zvaytsr - Roman resident "Black September". A Parisian resident, Dr. Mahmoud Hamsharn, was killed on 9 on January 1973, by a bomb mounted in a telephone receiver. He fell victim to an explosive device, Abdel Heer, a resident in Nicosia, Cyprus. 6 April 1973 was killed in Paris by Basile Ai-Kubayshi, one of the main leaders of Black September, who was directly involved in the preparation of the Munich crime.

12 April 1973, a bomb blast in Cyprus tore apart another terrorist commander, Moussa Abu Zayed. In Paris, another bomb planted under the seat of a car destroyed the Black September commander of the militants Mohammad Baud. Finally, in January 1979, in Beirut, the notorious Ali Hassan Salameh, the military operative genius of Black September, was killed. Bomb him, too, planted in the car. The peak and the end of the operation to defeat Black September was the raid of fighters "Sayrat Matkal" to Beirut on the night of 9 on 10 of April 1979. Ideally planning and carrying out this raid, eclipsing Hollywood militants in their audacity, Israeli commandos riddled them with automatic fire in their own apartments of all the remaining leaders of the organization they were pursuing.

In six years of hunting, it was possible to destroy almost all the terrorists responsible for planning and carrying out the Munich massacre. However, the Mossad anti-terrorist operation continued. One of them was the destruction of Abu Jihad, which was discussed at the beginning of the article. Apparently, this is why every spectacular sabotage, any mysterious incident in the Arab world and, of course, the death of every Palestinian terrorist is immediately attributed to “Mossad” and his faithful “Sayrat Matkal”. Although this is far from the case, there is no smoke without fire.

A peace treaty was signed between Israel and Jordan, and a large-scale agreement was reached between Israel and the PLO. But the wars in the east are far from over ...
Mossad. Elusive Avengers

Legends about Israeli intelligence. It is said that she is invincible, that along with the CIA, Mi-6 and KGB-FSB she is included in 5 of the most effective intelligence services in the world. It does not favor strangers and protect corporate honor. Here, even wives do not know that their husbands are working in intelligence. The authors of the documentary will talk about the loudest operations and the most scandalous failures of the Mossad.

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  1. Yarbay
    Yarbay 27 August 2012 08: 09
    +18
    Well, another blind praise * Mossad * !!
    Yes, pretty professional organization, but with its own problems!
    Why does the author not write about no fewer unsuccessful operations? !!
    And in Munich, despite everything that is written about it, the fact remains a fact, not all the participants in that terrorist operation should be destroyed!
    The organizer of this terrorist act, many years later, died for natural reasons!
    ** Legends are made about Israeli intelligence ** and fairy tales are also true!
    1. Dmitriy69
      Dmitriy69 27 August 2012 08: 36
      +24
      Our intelligence is no worse, but as far as public relations is concerned, the massada is really unparalleled.
      1. with
        with 27 August 2012 15: 49
        +4
        Quote: Dmitriy69
        Our intelligence is no worse, but as far as public relations is concerned, the massada is really unparalleled.

        I bow to you for this post! hi
        I would add that ours is better, but does not scream about it on every corner !!! hi
        1. vic22lud
          vic22lud 27 August 2012 16: 42
          -9
          Nothing to shout about - that’s silent
          1. with
            with 27 August 2012 18: 53
            0
            Quote: vic22lud
            Nothing to shout about - that’s silent

            You know better from Germany !!! bully
            1. Dimon
              Dimon 29 August 2012 12: 33
              0
              Yes, you know better, because We visited you, we know .... :))))
        2. aviator46
          aviator46 9 September 2012 22: 37
          -2
          By and large, intelligence of the Russian Federation is not needed. There is practically no work for her. A non-productive, resource-rich country with a thieves ’elite does not shine possessing extra-class intelligence globally competitive. Today, the SVR is maintained on the principle that "Schaub was like decent people" - just like the Academy of Sciences or the Armed Forces.
          In the current, cynicized and corrupt Russian Federation, intelligence is doomed to degeneration and collapse. Well, and what tasks in such a system should intelligence perform? Obtaining scientific and technical secrets, of course, is possible. But for whom? For Abramovich? For the oil industry? And they don’t need anything. They will sell raw materials - and they will buy all technical equipment in the West. They do not need something breakthrough there. There is practically no applied science in the Russian Federation. What is the point of stealing the wonders of microelectronics, if their own electronic industry is killed, and they buy avionics for Sukhoi fighter aircraft in France? A terrible fact: the industry of the Russian Federation, unlike the Soviet one, has not been able to use the data obtained by scientific and technical intelligence since the late 90s. For degraded, behind the west.
          In the same way, it makes no sense to get any military plans of other countries, if your own army is successfully turning into fiction, into visibility.
      2. nik4950
        nik4950 27 August 2012 17: 38
        -1
        The language is given to the Jews to hide the truth.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 27 August 2012 17: 41
          +1
          Quote: nik4950
          The language is given to the Jews to hide the truth.

          According to Talleyrand, this is the definition of diplomats, not Jews!
    2. Ruslan
      Ruslan 27 August 2012 10: 53
      +7
      Quote: Yarbay
      have another blind praise * Mossad * !!
      Mossad is one of the CIA's divisions - doing the dirtiest work. And in order to remove responsibility from the United States for the terror of the action, Mossad received official intelligence status of a separate state - from here and PR.
      1. revnagan
        revnagan 27 August 2012 12: 18
        +5
        Well, they didn’t write about the cases when innocent people were killed instead of terrorists by mistake. And it was, for sure. Two Jews shot and killed an innocent merchant. Well, think about it, they were mistaken. All Arabs are alike. mistakes? Do they give the murderers to the injured party? That would be fair.
        1. Nir
          Nir 27 August 2012 12: 58
          -3
          Quote: revnagan
          Well, they didn’t write about cases when innocent people were killed instead of terrorists by mistake.

          What are you saying ... have you forgotten the Nord Ost? lol
        2. vic22lud
          vic22lud 27 August 2012 16: 42
          +1
          As many as two Jews And why not 10?
      2. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 27 August 2012 13: 16
        +6
        About how! what Of course, I do not mind if Israel receives the status of Hawaii, as an overseas state of the United States, but for some reason Americans disagree. request
        1. Kortik
          Kortik 28 August 2012 23: 31
          -1
          I’m terribly interested, why does your tribe love to hide behind German flags so much. If you are patriots of your country, then why is there not an Israeli flag in place of German? Shoto somehow this is not so.
          1. igor67
            igor67 28 August 2012 23: 37
            +1
            Kortik,
            And we are all Mosadians, and we are conspiring. But in general, the question is for the administrator, not for us, and we are not a tribe, but the same people as everyone, there are, it’s better to eat worse
            1. NUT
              NUT 31 August 2012 12: 14
              -2
              Quote: igor67
              and we are not a tribe, but

              "This is a tribe. has no fatherland and wherever it comes, it tries to destroy the feeling of patriotism, corrupting human minds. Jews strive to create a world republic, then they will be the rulers of the world ... "
              MOBUCHUM OKUMA SIGENOBU / 1838-1922 / Prime Minister of Japan

              "If you definitely want to open your country for some an alien tribe, then it will be much more profitable for you to invite our robbers from the high road, gypsies, than Jews. The law can be protected from their attacks, but it does not exist against Jewish dominance. Jews carry out their attacks under the protection of the law and their consequences are much worse than the attacks of ordinary robbers. "
              BELA VICOR / 1859-1945 / ethnographer, member of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences.

              "There is hardly a place on the whole earth where the Jews rule ... Jewish tribe has already managed to penetrate into all states and it is not easy to find such a place in the entire universe that this tribe would not occupy and would not subordinate to its power. "
              STRABON / 64-63 BC-23-24 BC / ancient Greek philosopher, geographer, historian, traveler

              Quote: igor67
              people like everyone else

              "In Eastern Europe, a Jew is like a cancer slowly eating into the very body of another nation ..."
              ERNST RENAN / 1823-1892 / French historian and philosopher.

              "A Jew always feeds on the blood of other nations, he always needs murder and sacrifice ..."
              JULIUS STRAICHER / 1885 - 1945 / German politician
              1. shkodnik
                shkodnik 28 September 2012 22: 42
                0
                but at the same time, as soon as this tribe is expelled from the country, it begins to fall apart
          2. Dimon
            Dimon 29 August 2012 11: 47
            +1
            Quote: Kortik
            I’m terribly interested, why does your tribe love to hide behind German flags so much.

            Hey, you’d ask the admin, otherwise you and your tribe also need to be prompted ... :)))))
    3. vanya
      vanya 27 August 2012 12: 02
      +16
      The point is not in praising the Mossad, but in "Neither time nor distance can save those who raised their hand against the Jewish state and its citizens. Retribution is inevitable!"
      And we have...
      Akhmed Zakayev, emissary of Chechen terrorists, lives in England and continues subversive activities
      and many others live freely in other countries.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 27 August 2012 12: 06
        +4
        Quote: vanya
        "Neither time nor distance can save those who raised their hand against the Jewish state and its citizens. Retribution is inevitable!"

        Read carefully what I wrote !!
        Retaliation in the case of the Mossad is disgusting!
        I wrote about the head of the terrorist attack in Munich, I add for you, an attempt on the leader of Hamas-Mashal, who unsuccessfully poured poison into his ear, then I had to immediately send an antidote to Jordan and release a couple of famous Palestinian terrorists, in exchange for the trapped agents and Khaled Mashal alive and well!
        I can still give a lot of examples of the failure of the famous intelligence!
        The meaning of the article is precisely in the blind praise of Mossad!
        **** Emissary of Chechen terrorists Akhmed Zakayev lives in England and continues subversive activities
        and many others live freely in other countries. **** - Similarly, the enemies of Israel live in many countries of the world and continue subversive activities!
        1. berg
          berg 27 August 2012 12: 46
          +1
          “I can still cite a lot of examples of the failure of the famous intelligence service!” - can you also cite successful operations of the famous intelligence service?
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 27 August 2012 13: 03
            +2
            Quote: berg
            “I can still cite a lot of examples of the failure of the famous intelligence service!” - can you also cite successful operations of the famous intelligence service?

            the fact of the matter is that the article only writes about them, what else can you bring?))))
            1. berg
              berg 27 August 2012 13: 34
              0
              these examples appear in every article and movie about the Mossad in the last 10-20 years. from your words about the knowledge about a lot of examples about the failures of the mossad, I suggested that you know about some successes ... maybe something over the past 20 years? intelligence of a state like Israel must conduct hundreds of operations a year to ensure security or reduce damage! so that? there is something? :)
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 27 August 2012 13: 50
                +3
                As the saying goes, intelligence successes remain with seven seals, but failures are visible to everyone. The story of Mahmoud al-Mambhuha says a lot, in principle, to confirm this.
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 27 August 2012 13: 52
                  +1
                  Quote: Pimply
                  As they say - intelligence successes remain with seven seals, but failures are visible to everyone

                  But not in the case of the Mossad)))))))))))))))
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 27 August 2012 13: 58
                    +3
                    Mossad's successes are visible very limited. A reactor in Syria, for example, or the suspension of Iran’s nuclear program. In most operations, Mossad’s affiliation is visible indirectly. Although there were certainly interesting characters - such as Eli Cohen, a man who at some point became the third person in Syria, and largely thanks to whom he managed to achieve victory in the Six Day War.
                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 27 August 2012 14: 01
                      +1
                      Quote: Pimply
                      interesting characters - such as Eli Cohen, a man who at some point became a third person in Syria, and largely thanks to whom he managed to achieve victory in the Six Day War.

                      By the way, you will agree, when the six-day war is being discussed, no one talks about it !!
                      By the way, in my life you are just the second person who noted this !!))
                      1. Pimply
                        Pimply 27 August 2012 14: 05
                        +1
                        Well, besides Eli Cohen, I think there were several significant figures - on the same Egyptian front. But he is one of the most iconic
                      2. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 27 August 2012 14: 10
                        +1
                        Quote: Pimply

                        Well, besides Eli Cohen

                        I’m talking about this and it’s not enough to say what role the sources of the Israeli special services played in that victory!
                        As far as I remember there were not only Mossad agents!
                      3. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 27 August 2012 22: 25
                        0
                        By the way, in Egypt, Volvgang Lotz was an agent of Mossad during the 6 day war, which was later exchanged for almost 10 generals))
                      4. Pimply
                        Pimply 27 August 2012 23: 29
                        +1
                        Yes, Lotz was more fortunate. 9 generals and 500 other prisoners in the load. And who knows how many more
                2. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 27 August 2012 15: 12
                  +1
                  Quote: Pimply
                  like Eli Cohen,


                  Syria's close president, Hafez al-Assad Monger Motsley, recalls that Syrian counterintelligence exposed Israeli spy Eli Cohen at a time when he was unable to memorize the four main tenets of Islam.
                  Sounds like the truth ??
                  1. Odessa
                    Odessa 27 August 2012 15: 19
                    +2
                    Yarbay,
                    This, by the way, the one that almost became the president of Syria.
                  2. Apollo
                    Apollo 27 August 2012 15: 24
                    +5
                    I welcome you, unique Esther. I was sure that you would definitely comment on this topic ......................... You and your comments are as always inimitable !!!
                  3. Pimply
                    Pimply 27 August 2012 16: 03
                    0
                    The third on the list.
                  4. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 27 August 2012 16: 12
                    0
                    Quote: Odessa
                    This, by the way, the one that almost became the president of Syria.
                    Well, to be a friend of the president and relatives is also almost the president)))
                3. Karish
                  Karish 27 August 2012 15: 46
                  +1
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  Motsley recalls that Syrian counterintelligence exposed the Israeli spy Eli Cohen at a time when he was unable to memorize the four main tenets of Islam.
                  Sounds like the truth ??

                  In general, of course, it does not look like it is, in the Arab mentality, to make the enemy a complete insignificance and a fool. I think having reached such heights in the Syrian hierarchy and probably spent many hundreds of hours in mosques (during the obligatory Friday prayers. Holidays and other occasions) I’ve probably learned 4 basic postulates.
                4. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 27 August 2012 15: 59
                  0
                  Quote: Karish
                  In general, of course, it doesn’t look like it’s in the Arab mentality to make the enemy completely insignificant and

                  I also thought so, because as far as I know Cohen was born in Syria and lived a lot so as not to know such a simple question!
                  Therefore asked!
                  Perhaps after the arrest he did not answer such a question, but this was hardly the reason for the arrest!
                5. Pimply
                  Pimply 27 August 2012 16: 17
                  0
                  Egypt, Alexandria. Into Syria was introduced through Argentina.
                6. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 27 August 2012 16: 22
                  0
                  As far as I know, his parents are from Syria, and I don’t remember where he was born!
                7. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 27 August 2012 21: 51
                  0
                  All the same, the massad is not the same as before when the terrorists were destroyed since September 17
                8. Pimply
                  Pimply 27 August 2012 23: 30
                  0
                  Who knows. From time to time, facts come up that say that "that"
                9. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 29 August 2012 20: 30
                  0
                  Well, Shalita couldn’t free, the long arms of the Mossad
          2. Karish
            Karish 27 August 2012 16: 42
            +1
            Quote: Yarbay
            Perhaps after the arrest he did not answer such a question, but this was hardly the reason for the arrest!

            Of course, no one knows the truth (with the exception of the Syrians, but looking at the previous comment they are unlikely to tell) In general, according to one version, Cohen was simply taken by the GRU, who worked closely with the Syrians.
          3. Yarbay
            Yarbay 27 August 2012 16: 54
            +1
            Quote: Karish
            just direction finding the GRU

            GRU intelligence agency and do not engage in counterintelligence!
            If you said the KGB, the Z-Directorate, I would have believed a special department !!
    4. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2012 16: 01
      +2
      Not. He was spotted using the new Soviet direction finder. Cohen has recently sharply increased the flow of transmissions, since there was extremely important information that needed to be urgently transferred to the center.

      "Eight people in civilian clothes broke into there and arrested Eli right during a radio session. During the search, a radio transmitter was found, photographic films with photographs of highly secret objects. In one of the drawers of the table, they found pieces of soap that turned out to be explosives. He was interrogated without a lawyer, subjecting him to severe torture." ...
    5. vic22lud
      vic22lud 27 August 2012 16: 50
      0
      This corresponds to the official version and there is nothing to add
    6. Insurgent
      Insurgent 29 August 2012 20: 33
      0
      Here’s the agent of the KGB Kim Philby, yes, it’s a super agent. And some Israeli people are not suitable for him.
  2. vic22lud
    vic22lud 27 August 2012 16: 46
    -1
    I do not think that a person of this position was forced to read postulates
  • Odessa
    Odessa 27 August 2012 22: 19
    +1
    Yarbay,
    But not in the case of the Mossad)))))))))))))))

    Sometimes the fun is also pretent, since Mossad with its administrative center is a strategically closed facility. There was no confusion with the clock fixing the warming of the water. Workers are not allowed on the facility, the amount of water is not checked, like a debt for water has formed. And Mossad was threatened for several years ago for non-payment of shut off water in the truest sense of the word. laughing
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2012 23: 30
      +1
      In several million shekels.
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 27 August 2012 14: 04
    +1
    Quote: berg
    I assumed that you know about some successes ...

    and done right)))
    1. berg
      berg 27 August 2012 14: 30
      0
      Quote: berg I assumed that you know about some successes ... and did the right thing))) [/ quote]

      you convinced yourself of this ...
  • vic22lud
    vic22lud 27 August 2012 16: 44
    0
    a lot of examples of the failure of the famous intelligence
  • Ratibor12
    Ratibor12 27 August 2012 13: 16
    +2
    Quote: Yarbay
    I wrote about the head of the terrorist attack in Munich, I add for you, an attempt on the head of Hamas Mashal, who was unsuccessfully poured poison into his ear, then I had to immediately send an antidote to Jordan and release a couple of famous Palestinian terrorists, in exchange for the trapped agents and Khaled Mashal so far alive and well!


    Uh-uh ... However ... Have they seen enough of "Hamlet" ??? What a joke! Especially with the antidote !!!
  • Karish
    Karish 27 August 2012 15: 24
    +3
    Quote: Yarbay
    Read carefully what I wrote !! Retribution is disgusting in the case of the Mossad!

    Good day, Alibek. !
    Of course, Mossad also had failures, and of course they will. But he who does nothing is not mistaken.
    The message itself that retaliation will be quite sobering. The fact that one (of the organizers of the massacre in Munich) survived does not mean that his life was easy and cloudless. He spent the whole time underground, never shone anywhere, and only after death revealed that he lived in Syria. They didn’t get it, but at least neutralized it, but you won’t envy living with fear.
    Mossad destroyed and destroys terrorists abroad (Mossad works only abroad) and many recent extermination from Mugnia in Syria. Before Makhuh in Dubai is evidence of this.
    Quote: Yarbay
    Israel’s enemies also live in many countries of the world and continue subversive activities!

    They live. but unlike Zakayev, they are hiding in bunkers, like the same Nasral, who has not appeared in public for 6 years. after his claims of victory in the war.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 27 August 2012 15: 32
      +1
      Hi Alexander!
      Quote: Karish
      The message itself that retaliation will be quite sobering.

      I agree, but I warn you, I already had tea and rested and was ready for discussion))))))))))
      Quote: Karish

      They live. but unlike Zakayev hiding in the bunkers,

      Is it all the same Mashaal travels the world!
      But I do not argue this is the method that Israel has adopted, I described it here !!
      and I would see how Israel in England will kill someone !! It will be more expensive for myself!
      But Russia at one time took a chance!
      1. Karish
        Karish 27 August 2012 16: 56
        +2
        Quote: Yarbay
        Is it all the same Mashaal travels the world!

        With Mashal, it’s not so simple, at the moment liquidating Mashaal does not make any sense (but in my opinion it’s even necessary to protect it somehow). after his death, the more reactionary will come to his place. * Replacement * already tried to reset it a couple of times. Did not work out . Sometimes if it is not possible to get rid of evil. you need to choose less.
        Quote: Yarbay
        and I would see how Israel in England will kill someone !! It will be more expensive for myself!

        The last (of the known) one in Cyprus, the other in Scandinavia (truth has long been a failure). Well, firstly, as candidates for the other world ruled, they don’t go to civilized countries (since they simply have no access there) Well, even if they steal from some European country or kill them. then it will be in contact with local special services and with sanction. How it was . when they abducted (2 years ago) and taken to Israel the main missile-rocker Hamas (part-time married to a Ukrainian and had citizenship) Directly from the Kiev-Kharkov train.
        All specials. operations like silence, publicity is useless. If you are talking about Litvinenko, then Russia lost more from the scandal than won, poisoning with polonium is in my opinion stupid. The metal is so rare and radioactive that it leaves traces of its presence everywhere and the origin is calculated without any problems. soldier
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 27 August 2012 17: 10
          +1
          Quote: Karish
          (but in my opinion it’s even necessary to somehow protect)

          So I'm talking about, and if I would have killed then)))))))))))))))) ??????????
          Quote: Karish
          All specials. operations like silence, publicity for nothing

          My dear and everyone knows about these operations))))
          I’m talking about that, that Israeli intelligence speaks about all its successful operations, spreads it through its channels, and I understand why !!
          1. Karish
            Karish 27 August 2012 19: 22
            0
            Quote: Yarbay
            I’m talking about that, that Israeli intelligence speaks about all its successful operations, spreads it through its channels, and I understand why !!

            Well, PR is the same weapon. Save money - do not spare the show off.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 27 August 2012 22: 29
              +1
              Quote: Karish

              Well, PR is the same weapon. Save money - do not spare the show off.

              I completely agree and have nothing against it, but when they start talking about the fact that there were only successes, I think this is wrong!
  • Karish
    Karish 27 August 2012 15: 41
    +1
    Quote: Yarbay
    Read carefully what I wrote !!
    Retaliation in the case of the Mossad is disgusting!

    Good day, Alibek!
    He who does nothing is not mistaken. Therefore, along with successes there are and will be failures (but we will be honest there are still more successes)
    Yes, one of the organizers of the massacre in Munich escaped death. (everyone else was killed) But for the rest of his life he lived underground (and was generally neutralized) and only after death did they learn that he lived in Syria.
    Mossad has worked and is working and the recent extermination of terrorists (from Mugnia in Syria, to Makhuh in Dubai and many others) is evidence of this. The fact that none of them feel safe is already an achievement.
    But Mossad, as you understand, is mainly engaged in operational and reconnaissance work and the prevention of Iranian attacks in (recently) in 13 countries of the world, including Azerbaijan - this is also not his small merit.
    Sincerely . Alexander .
    How backgammon won 10 euros? drinks
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 27 August 2012 16: 04
      0
      Quote: Karish
      including Azerbaijan - this is also not his small merit

      Here I also think that a big PR !!
      Since knowing how our services work especially in Iran, I can’t believe that this was the work of Israel!
      It’s just that whenever this happens, Israeli newspapers write about the hand of the Mossad, it seems that all the counterintelligence of the world is sleeping and only Israeli intelligence is working !!
      Nothing personal Alexander is my opinion!
      Quote: Karish
      How backgammon won 10 euros?
      Spruce, spruce, hit the prize))))
      I won 50 kopecks this time, but 177 people played))) by the way, I advise you, a good Ukrainian site, fair play club dot ua)))) Well, naturally, all in English)) tomorrow, the first half will be a tournament again))))
      1. Karish
        Karish 27 August 2012 17: 00
        0
        Quote: Yarbay
        Since knowing how our services work especially in Iran, I can’t believe that this was the work of Israel!

        I am not saying that only Israel, the cooperation is quite successful. operational infa came from Israel, to Baku, the same professionals. designed and mated quickly.

        Quote: Yarbay
        50 kopecks won this time

        The main participation. you have to try the same thing. Only with time is the park now. So the school year began, my daughter went to first grade. son at the university for the 3rd year. It is necessary to collect in a heap after the holidays.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 27 August 2012 17: 13
          0
          Quote: Karish
          I am not saying that only Israel, the cooperation is quite successful. operational infa came from Israel, to Baku, the same professionals. designed and mated quickly

          The question is where did you get this information?))))
          You see, this is another rumor, the assumption that newspapers are spreading, as well as about the contents of the contract for 1,6 billion, as well as about the type of Israeli pilots flew on our planes during the parade !!
          and this nonsense after the regnum was published by almost all the media)))
          I don’t argue that there is interaction for a long time, but I doubt very much about information operas from Israel !!
          1. Karish
            Karish 27 August 2012 19: 24
            0
            Quote: Yarbay
            The question is where did you get this information?))))

            But that's why Mossad is silent and not PR.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 27 August 2012 22: 31
              0
              Quote: Karish
              But that's why Mossad is silent and not PR.


              But for him journalists and the Mossad do it with their silence, as it were, yes)))))
  • sergey32
    sergey32 27 August 2012 14: 53
    0
    I’ll add, it’s time to fulfill Putin’s order to destroy the terrorists who killed our diplomats in Iraq several years ago.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 27 August 2012 15: 41
      0
      Quote: sergey32
      I’ll add, it’s time to complete the prik

      everything has its time!
      Yandarbiev was destroyed once!
      1. vic22lud
        vic22lud 27 August 2012 16: 51
        0
        By the way - a decent operation with a competent departure
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 27 August 2012 16: 58
          0
          Quote: vic22lud
          By the way - a decent operation with a competent departure

          I don’t agree with the departure!
          They tied everyone!
          Then our president Aliyev rescued them !!))
        2. Karish
          Karish 27 August 2012 19: 25
          +1
          Quote: vic22lud
          By the way - a decent operation with a competent departure

          By going to jail, you mean. They were tied up there. as long as I remember.
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2012 16: 06
      0
      Well, as if already, there is partially already.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 27 August 2012 16: 30
        0
        Quote: Pimply
        there partially already.

        Are you talking about dear?))) About Yandarbiev?))))
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2012 16: 35
          +1
          About the Iraqis who killed several Russian diplomats. There they caught a few, one was destroyed by the Americans.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 27 August 2012 16: 36
            +1
            Quote: Pimply

            About the Iraqis who killed several Russian diplomats. They caught a few there, one was destroyed by the Americans

            I agree..
  • vic22lud
    vic22lud 27 August 2012 16: 43
    +1
    Thanks for the objectivity +
  • tuts
    tuts 27 August 2012 20: 14
    0
    killing specific creatures does not solve anything on the contrary, a terrorist killed in this way acquires the area of ​​a martyr
    Neither time nor distance can save those who raised their hand against the Jewish state and its citizens. Retribution is inevitable! ".”


    how much terror is already going on in Israel, selective killings not much help them

    in my opinion, here is a more effective way

    “I will put a pyramid out of the heads of your jackals, its pig blood pouring, and a cut dick will stick out at each mouth. In this form, they’re not only not allowed to enter Jannah, but Iblis will kick out of Jahannam with kicks ”

    Book Terek Front Boris Gromov
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 27 August 2012 22: 33
      +1
      Quote: tots
      I’ll put a pyramid out of the heads of your jackals, its pig’s blood pouring, and a cut dick will stick out from each mouth. In this form, they’re not only not allowed to enter Jannah, but Iblis will kick out of Jahannam with kicks ”

      I already wrote about this once, this is illiteracy and the justification of my animal instincts !!
      1. tuts
        tuts 28 August 2012 06: 23
        +1
        this is psychology

        death itself is fearless; the process itself is terrible, for example:
        Nuclear bombing of Hiroshima claimed from 90 to 166 thousand people
        Carpet bombing of Dresden from 130 to 200 thousand people

        and although the numbers are comparable, we are much more afraid of nuclear weapons.
  • Rumata
    Rumata 27 August 2012 12: 38
    0
    Which intelligence service did not fail? A strange argument ... And the fact that not all the members of "September" were caught - the argument is even better =). The Mi-6s did not destroy those responsible for the London bombings, although 7 years have passed already, and I can name dozens of such examples, take the same IRA and those who were behind them.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 27 August 2012 13: 09
      +1
      Dear Rumat, various special services, including intelligence, have their own priorities and their own working methods!
      For example, there are actively aggressive ones, than Mossad, Sepah, etc. are famous for, there are other methods !!
      To a large extent, any intelligence and intelligence service is obliged to work ahead of schedule, preemption is the best they can do, and acts of retaliation are secondary!
      Quote: Rumata
      Mi-6 did not destroy those responsible for the bombings in London

      Quote: Rumata
      Mi-6 did not destroy those responsible for the bombings in London

      England has other priorities,prevent, and in the case of a crime, expose and bring to justice!
      Quote: Rumata

      Which intelligence did not fail?

      So I’m talking about this, but here in the article it is written exclusively about ** - ** super success ** - this is biased!
      1. Rumata
        Rumata 27 August 2012 13: 22
        0
        I agree with you that the article is not objective, but how objectively can one judge the intelligence, when we know at most a couple of percent of what they are doing. I am not claiming that the MOSSAD is better than the Mi-6, I simply do not agree that the destruction of "only" 90% of the Black September leadership is a failure.
        Regarding prevention, I would not be so categorical. How many cases of damage to ships with weapons to Syria and Lebanon, the destruction of militants who planned terrorist attacks, etc. I remember in 2000, when there were terrorist attacks every week, Shabak, not without the help of MOSSADA, prevented about 400 all kinds of terrorist attacks a year, and not only in the country, but also abroad.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 27 August 2012 13: 32
          0
          Quote: Rumata
          I do not claim that Mossad is better than Mi-6

          in principle it is objective and I can’t say it! This is also my subjective opinion based on the information that I have in my head!
          And more in my priorities, that is, as I understand it, intelligence should work!
          Quote: Rumata
          I just do not agree that the destruction of "only" 90% of the leadership of "Black September" is a failure

          I did not say that this is a failure, just when they say or write about it, then in 95 percent of the cases they write that the Mossad destroyed ALL !! But you and I know that the direct organizer, the one who planned and implemented this plan was never destroyed, and therefore I would not say that 90 percent of the work has been done!
          Quote: Rumata
          Regarding prevention, I would not be so categorical.
          what would not be categorical ??
          I wrotethat the priority of both intelligence and counterintelligence is the prevention, anticipation of an impending crime or actions threatening the state and its citizens, and not retaliation after the crime!
          Quote: Rumata
          , Shabak, not without the help of MOSSADA, prevented about 400 all kinds of attacks per year

          It's fine!
          This is a normal interaction of special services !!
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2012 13: 51
          0
          In fact - not 400. It reached several thousand. The percentage of prevented terrorist attacks ranged from 95 to 98 percent. It came to the ridiculous thing with Shabak - they threw a stone at us, and a minute later they called us from this organization and asked if everything was in order.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 27 August 2012 13: 53
            +1
            Quote: Pimply
            In fact, not 400. It reached several thousand. The percentage of prevented terrorist attacks ranged from 95 to 98 percent.

            Great result, but I would have praised Shabak more!
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 August 2012 13: 59
              +1
              I do not argue. Mossad, however, then also increased work.
            2. Karish
              Karish 27 August 2012 17: 11
              0
              Quote: Yarbay
              Great result, but I would have praised Shabak more!

              I think that Shabak is not deservedly ignored at all. because on operational work inside ter. organizations implementing agents. the ability to work with agents, analysis and the ability to conduct interrogations - they simply have no equal. 99% success in preventing terrorist attacks within Israel is the Shabak.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 27 August 2012 17: 21
                +1
                Quote: Karish
                that Shabak is not deservedly overlooked at all. because on operational work inside ter. organizations implementing agents. the ability to work with agents, analysis and the ability to conduct interrogations - they simply have no equal.
                Usually, in my opinion, respectful counterintelligence works like that !! But such a service does not need glory, only the result!
        3. Karish
          Karish 27 August 2012 17: 06
          0
          Quote: Rumata
          I do not claim that Mossad is better than Mi-6

          Lord. we probably all the same should take into account the limited resources of the Mossad in comparison with other intelligence services in the world. I will not be mistaken. if I say that the number of employees and officers serving in the GRU, KGB, SVR, CIA, MI-: 6 combined. - probably exceed the population of Israel, and the budget of these special services, of course, exceeds the budget of the entire state of Israel at times .. But at the same time, the Mossad occupies a worthy place among the best intelligence agencies in the world. drinks
          1. Suvorov000
            Suvorov000 28 August 2012 11: 20
            0
            Mossad is the residence of the CIA and MI-6 in the eastern region, as Jews were selling and buying all the time, and here they are sold, they are bought in their interests
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 28 August 2012 13: 02
              0
              Well, if you objectively represented reality, you would know that this is far from the case. Mossad is not even in the inner circle of allies. There is a close circle - intelligence of the USA, Britain, Canada, Australia, Germany. These countries de facto and de jure almost never spy on each other and exchange a maximum of information. There is a wider circle of allies who exchange information - but in much more limited ways, and follow each other. This is what Israel enters into it.
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 27 August 2012 21: 52
      0
      Kagda Begin poigal Argentina sniffed mi 6 so those guys know their work
  • with
    with 27 August 2012 15: 54
    +2
    Quote: Yarbay
    Why does the author not write about no fewer unsuccessful operations? !!

    Mossad did not allow !!))) bully good
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 27 August 2012 16: 06
      0
      Quote: met
      Mossad did not allow !!)))

      Do not suck up))))
      We are almost on knives with you)))))))))))
      1. with
        with 27 August 2012 16: 20
        +1
        Quote: Yarbay
        Do not suck up))))

        Again slander me !!)))) bully
        Quote: Yarbay
        We are almost on knives with you)))))))))))

        Almost never happens either on knives or not !!!))) bully hi
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 27 August 2012 16: 55
          +1
          Quote: met

          Almost never happens either on knives or not !!

          On knives definitely)))))))))))
          1. with
            with 27 August 2012 17: 06
            +2
            Quote: Yarbay
            On knives definitely)))))))))))

            Notice, I didn’t say that !!!))) bully
            You yourself made your choice !!!))))) bully
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 27 August 2012 17: 16
              +1
              Quote: met
              Notice, I didn’t say that !!!))

              I noticed, noticed))) in the striped swimsuit and on the national Izhevsk Jupiter you?))))))))
              1. with
                with 27 August 2012 17: 49
                +1
                Quote: Yarbay
                in a striped swimsuit and on the national Izh Jupiter you?))))))))

                Here is my swimsuit and in general I had "Voskhod-2M" a long time ago !!))) bully
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 27 August 2012 17: 58
                  +1
                  Quote: met
                  Here is my swimsuit and in general I had a "Voskhod-2M" for a long time !!))

                  But my dad somehow won the lottery when we were children and said they say if there was a cradle I would take for you)))) and give it to someone)))))
                  And so you look menacingly, I would crap one's pants))))))))))
                  1. Karish
                    Karish 27 August 2012 18: 09
                    +1
                    No, Alibek, I do not agree with you on this, I am not drawn to describe more than that. am
                  2. with
                    with 27 August 2012 19: 56
                    0
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    And so you look menacingly, I would crap one's pants))))))))))

                    Imagine if the Sunrise is still nearby!)))
                    Only here is where to get it, as well as my youth !!!
  • vic22lud
    vic22lud 27 August 2012 16: 41
    +1
    What? Enviously?
  • Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 27 August 2012 08: 22
    +1
    I wonder how many years ago an article was written? Today, the population of Israel is almost 8 million people. A little more than 5 million was in the beginning of 90's
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 27 August 2012 08: 27
      0
      ** One of the most famous opera days of Mossad is the work of shock groups combing the tragedy of the Munich Olympics throughout Europe. ** - I would like to decipher this sentence, what kind of opera was it combing and why?
  • Apollo
    Apollo 27 August 2012 09: 26
    +7
    Israeli intelligence Mossad is one of the most classified intelligence of the world. One aspect to consider if interests C RU and GRU extends to the whole world, then Mossad’s interests are mainly are limited Near, Middle East and Asia Minor. But this does not mean that interests do not extend to Russia and the USA ..

    As the head of MI-6 was asked how do you think which intelligence is the strongest in the world, in his answer he said that -
    quote-based on political intrigue then the strongest CIA, based on industrial espionage then the strongest Chinese intelligence, but clarity and precision conducting operations is the Israeli Mossad.
    As for the GRU and Russia's foreign intelligence, then on this I I will especially stay when will the relevant article.

    . Of course, you can agree or not with the statement of the head of MI-6, but you must pay tribute to this intelligence.
    The author of the article, dear to me, A. Martynov, quite succinctly and as succinctly as possible, presented information about the above intelligence and, in my opinion, overlooked one point. The Israeli Mossad played a huge role in exposing Nazi criminals, search and prosecution. This moment, in my understanding, deserves the highest praise, agree after so many years to track down and conduct an operation to arrest,quite difficult., especially where Israel has close relations with the United States.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 27 August 2012 09: 44
      0
      Quote: Apollon
      As the head of MI-6 was asked

      Dear Apollo!
      I don’t know whether or not you wrote what you wrote, but if you ask my opinion, I’ll tell you that there is hardly any intelligence that could compete with English in the areas you mentioned !!
      The most powerful intelligence, the one about which they say little and remember !!
      Mi-6 is best suited for the name of the best !!
      Moreover, centuries-old traditions have been preserved!

      Quote: Apollon
      .Israeli Mossad played a huge role in exposing Nazi criminals, tracing and prosecuting. This moment, in my understanding, deserves the highest praise, agree after so many years to track down and carry out an arrest operation, it’s quite difficult., Especially where Israel has close relations with the same USA.

      I do not agree!
      For this, there are special services to carry out the tasks, including in such areas!
      Here it is more necessary to praise the political leadership of Israel, which set such a task !!
      1. tan0472
        tan0472 27 August 2012 10: 45
        +5
        Quote: Yarbay
        The most powerful intelligence, the one about which they say little and remember !!

        I felt that Papua New Guinea should have its own intelligence. But no one believed me. (even psychiatrist Yevgeny Sergeyevich) I am glad that I found a like-minded person in your person. But how developed their conspiracy. We do not see these small, black ones, with fangs of a wild boar in their nose - but they are. Straaaashno. belay lol
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 27 August 2012 10: 59
          -1
          Quote: tan0472
          Papua New Guinea

          Dear, I had in mind among countries applying for the title of the best and having experience and relevant knowledge!
          I don’t accept your irony, because it looks like a kindergarten!
          1. tan0472
            tan0472 27 August 2012 12: 09
            +2
            Please accept my deepest apologies. From now on, I undertake not to joke in your direction. (I understood what you meant, but I didn’t run into that. I repent. crying )
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 27 August 2012 13: 11
              +2
              Quote: tan0472

              Please accept my deepest apologies. Henceforth I undertake not to joke in your direction

              Well what are you, not worth the apology!
              I just did not understand your joke!
    2. Karish
      Karish 27 August 2012 17: 15
      0
      Quote: Apollon
      Well, the operational clarity and accuracy of operations is the Israeli Mossad

      I think Mossad is the best intelligence out of principle, expense / quality of work. The ability to organize modest resources. Do not spray on secondary tasks. to organize, set real goals and fulfill, we are probably one of the best in the world.
  • Indigo
    Indigo 27 August 2012 09: 35
    +1
    Israel also has to confront the fierce Palestinian and Lebanese terror. Explosives alone in Israel annually disarm more than 350, an average of one per day!
    here the question begins to torment me - for so many years we lived side by side and all the wounds should have already healed, to find ways to understand and solve problems, but as for me, there are no smart people in this conflict ...
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2012 12: 57
      +1
      Territorial-ethnic conflicts can last for centuries.
      1. Kshatriy
        Kshatriy 28 August 2012 17: 03
        0
        Quote: Pimply

        Territorial-ethnic conflicts can last for centuries.

        Uh-huh ... if some kind of mrazota feeds them with bablos ........ otherwise they tie it up at a time and are defined in their "territorial" conflict !!!!!!!!!!
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 28 August 2012 18: 23
          0
          Do not tie. Float regularly. The Caucasus is worth it.
    2. Karish
      Karish 27 August 2012 17: 19
      0
      Quote: Indigo
      here the question begins to torment me - for so many years we lived side by side and all the wounds should have already healed, to find ways to understand and solve problems, but as for me, there are no smart people in this conflict ...

      Indeed, Chechnya. Dagestan, Basques (In Spain), Catholics - Protestants in Ireland, etc. But they still can’t agree and forget the old grievances.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 27 August 2012 17: 36
        0
        It is worth noting that territorial conflicts also exist in quite developed countries. For example, Britain and Spain (Gibraltar). Of course, there now it does not develop into a military confrontation. But there is a conflict. And dormant conflicts tend to wake up sometimes.
  • Igarr
    Igarr 27 August 2012 09: 44
    +5
    Well, a well-honored fee is felt.
    I liked it - ".. Most of all he hated Soviet agents and became famous for the fact that every year he exposed several KGB spies in the Ministry of Defense and other government agencies."
    I read it several times, but it stuck in my brain - "... every day ..."
    The article constantly emphasizes - GRU, GRU ... and expose the KGB spies.
    Funny.
    .
    Although, by and large ... if intelligence has to act by force, then this is special forces. Not intelligence.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 27 August 2012 10: 02
      0
      Quote: Igarr
      Although, by and large ... if intelligence has to act by force, then this is special forces. Not intelligence

      Absolutely true!
    2. Rumata
      Rumata 27 August 2012 12: 42
      +1
      Recently there was a breakthrough of the border with Egypt on an armored personnel carrier, yesterday the person responsible for it died from the explosion, the Egyptian authorities say that they have nothing to do with it.
      No one says that it was a SHABAK or Mossad, but since everything that happens in the Middle East and around Israel is always in front of the media, there are more speculations about Mossad’s operations.
      For example, let's say a Japanese general who was a zealous supporter of the war for the Kuril Islands died in a car accident, no one will write anything anywhere, although it is possible that this is the work of Russian agents.
      Suppose a Syrian general who advocated a war with Israel died, all the media will blow this week and blame Mossad on its own.
      There is no need to go far for real examples - Iranian nuclear scientists. Someone could die for natural reasons, someone could have been killed by the CIA, Mi-6, or even Russian intelligence agencies, which are also beneficial to slow down development, but there is no MOSSAD shouting at every corner
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 27 August 2012 12: 58
        +3
        The Syrian general is bullshit. Tourists shark bit - Mossad. Moreover, at the most official level - the governor of Sharm al-Sheikh - 8 is declared)
        1. Rumata
          Rumata 27 August 2012 13: 08
          +5
          The shark was recruited as a fry off the coast of Australia, she entered the trust of the sharks of the Red Sea for a long time until her finest hour ... They say her bite was in the shape of a star of David
          1. Karish
            Karish 27 August 2012 17: 25
            +1
            Quote: Rumata
            They say her bite was in the shape of a star of David

            Not true, she could not be from Israel. she bit some Ukrainians. and given the love of Ukrainians for fat - it was not kosher. Most likely she was recruited by Gazprom. what would avenge the overlap of the pipe. bully bully crying
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 August 2012 17: 37
              +1
              It would be kosher if the shark was starving, and she had no other options. 8)
              1. Karish
                Karish 27 August 2012 19: 30
                +1
                Quote: Pimply
                It would be kosher if the shark was starving, and she had no other options. 8)

                Pikukh Nefesh. How did I forget. Especially on Yom Kippur you can always grind. But I saw a photo of a shark insolent muzzle, there were no pace. Maybe they still talk?
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 27 August 2012 19: 48
                  +1
                  Firstly, it could be a female 8). Secondly - pace is not an obligatory attribute. Kipa?
                  1. Karish
                    Karish 27 August 2012 20: 57
                    +2
                    Quote: Pimply
                    Firstly, it could be a female 8). Secondly - pace is not an obligatory attribute. Kipa?

                    What a bale, it is written a shark, not sharks, this is clearly a female. You definitely can’t tell them apart. Nothing stands out. neither the paisas, nor the bale, nor the trimmed bolt, probably really from Mossad, dressed up. the one who abducted Vanunu. Respect to Mossad.
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 27 August 2012 21: 20
                      0
                      If religious, then should be shaved bald
                      1. Karish
                        Karish 27 August 2012 21: 27
                        0
                        Quote: Pimply
                        If religious, then should be shaved bald

                        Exactly, she was bald.
                        Well done Pupyrchaty, we calculated it fellow drinks hi
                      2. Igarr
                        Igarr 27 August 2012 21: 50
                        +1
                        Oh, brothers, Karish with Pimple ...
                        bang-bang, consider you are killed ... or they will not exchange you soon ... after such a puncture.
                        Shark ... if she has - if there is a kipa ... the flight is calculated.
                        The male hangs on the sides of the anal fin such ... a pile ... you can’t confuse anything ... gonads are called.
                        Male, then ... with two bales.
                        Well, if not, then, tender, untouched .... female.
                        ...
                        It is a shame, the curators of the bull shark fry ... do not know the physiology.
                        Sharks.
      2. Yarbay
        Yarbay 27 August 2012 13: 14
        +1
        Rumata !!
        Quote: Rumata
        For example, let's die

        Just if you are a little objective, you will see that Mossad deliberately creates for himself such an image of a super-duper error-free organization!
        This is understandable why !!
        I understand this very well, facilitates recruitment work!
        I don’t see anything wrong or bad!
        1. Rumata
          Rumata 27 August 2012 13: 31
          +1
          That is, you do not agree with the fact that, apart from PR, the reason is that the entire Middle Eastern commotion is in sight? MOSSAD throws off Al-Jashir and CNN hints what are they? Then why aren't the rest of the intelligence doing this, the special services of Sri Lanka could also earn fame and political weight like that.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 27 August 2012 13: 43
            +1
            Rumata, each state and special services of the state have their own goals and work methods are determined by them!
            The goals and opportunities of Israel and Sri Lanka are incommensurable!
            And we must not forget against actively-aggressive intelligence, the counterintelligence of the world is usually also tough and merciless, so not every intelligence agency uses such methods!
            Quote: Rumata

            That is, you do not agree with the fact that, apart from PR, the reason is that the entire Middle Eastern commotion is in sight?

            I did not say that I do not agree, this is also there, but this is not the main thing !!
            It’s just that Mossad chose for himself such a method of work and such an image !!
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2012 13: 53
          +1
          Let's just say - Mossad does not dispel this image. As for recruiting work - more often, as far as I know, Mossad works under the guise of other intelligence services: in any case, with the Arabs.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 27 August 2012 13: 58
            0
            Quote: Pimply
            Let's just say - Mossad does not dispel this image

            I have a different opinion and I think I know what I'm talking about !!

            Quote: Pimply
            Mossad works under the guise of other intelligence: in any case, with the Arabs.

            In addition to the Arabs, Mossad does not work with anyone ??
            in the United States is not an agent Mossad sitting?
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 August 2012 14: 10
              0
              Pollard in general is an extremely controversial figure. Of course, he gave information to Mossad, but was not a full-time agent, and traded information, for example, with South Africa, Pakistan and a couple of other countries.

              "Pollard pleaded guilty, and therefore was never publicly prosecuted. Thus, the American people remained unaware that before working for the Israelis, he offered classified information to three other countries, and that he offered his services to a fourth country, in the time when he was already spying for Israel. Besides, the Americans never knew how high the sums paid for his services. "
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 27 August 2012 14: 14
                0
                Quote: Pimply
                He provided information to Mossad, but was not a full-time agent, and traded information, for example, with South Africa, Pakistan and a couple of other

                I am sure that a harsh sentence was handed down to him in many respects because of this!
                In the specifics of intelligence, there are regular agents, only illegal immigrants !!
                But seeing how from year to year Israel tries to rescue him at the highest level, you come to the conclusion that he did a lot or there is a second explanation, again the image !!
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 27 August 2012 14: 37
                  0
                  Not really. In addition to illegal immigrants, there are operatives, there are employees of embassies, etc.
                  And to rescue - within the country there is a powerful support movement. They made a hero out of him. In fact, they officially began to ask him to be released only this year.
                  1. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 27 August 2012 14: 40
                    0
                    Embassy employees are citizens of their country and their work is difficult and usually comes down to open sources of information! Would you really like to know about operatives abroad ??
                    it's like ?? and would like to?)))
                    enlighten !!
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 27 August 2012 14: 46
                      0
                      As a rule, any third secretaries and military advisers are precisely the heads of residencies and coordinators.

                      Etc.? Well, for example, various kinds of fraternity, cultural centers, etc. very often - cover for reconnaissance.
                      1. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 27 August 2012 14: 52
                        0
                        Quote: Pimply

                        As a rule, any third secretaries and military advisers are precisely the heads of residencies and coordinators

                        Well this is understandable, but what relation do the people you name have to the recruited ??
                        remember what the conversation is about, * full-time agents * ,!
                        A full-time agent would be exchanged, since he would be listed as a citizen, but I will not argue with you. You say a professional))))
                        Honestly, I'm already confused))))
                      2. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 27 August 2012 15: 35
                        0
                        Pollard could not have been a full-time agent unless he were illegal !!
                        That's where our conversation started !!
                        He could not work in his position as an Israeli citizen, an employee of the embassy!))
                      3. Pimply
                        Pimply 27 August 2012 16: 09
                        0
                        I repeat - full-time agents can be not only illegal. But in the case of Pollard - everything is true, especially considering that he worked for naval intelligence.
                      4. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 27 August 2012 16: 16
                        0
                        Quote: Pimply
                        full-time agents

                        Yes, I understood everything that we are talking about the same thing but we don’t hear each other))) You wrote that Pollard was not a full-time agent, to which I replied and could not have been unless it was illegal, and then in view of my tiredness, terrible heat, you respected me talking)))))))))))))
                  2. Pimply
                    Pimply 27 August 2012 16: 08
                    0
                    Staffing agents are one thing. Recruited agents, freelancers, etc. - this is different. A freelancer can often be sacrificed relatively painlessly.

                    Yeah, but they also say that hedgehogs fly. Hedgehog is a proud bird, until you kick it, it will not fly.
                  3. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 27 August 2012 16: 17
                    0
                    Quote: Pimply
                    Yeah, but they also say that hedgehogs fly. Hedgehog is a proud bird, until you kick it, it will not fly.

                    We will teach them to fly)))))))))
        3. Karish
          Karish 27 August 2012 17: 31
          +1
          Quote: Yarbay
          But seeing how from year to year Israel tries to rescue him at the highest level, you come to the conclusion that he did a lot or there is a second explanation, again the image !!

          We do not abandon our own (as an example, for more than 30 years. They are trying to determine the place of the grave of Eli Cohen and take the remains to Israel)
          Polard is a controversial figure. but he worked for us, Israel recognized this and he is responsible for it.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 27 August 2012 17: 35
            0
            Quote: Karish
            Polard is a controversial figure. but he worked for us

            here I think the question is different, but this is my opinion, he worked very much for many !!
    3. Odessa
      Odessa 27 August 2012 14: 13
      +1
      Yarbay,
      Except Arabs, Mossad does not work with anyone?

      That's just how it works only with Arabs (Shirut betakhon was put, tire-bet, Shabak) counter / intelligence.
      And Mossad works all over the world.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 27 August 2012 14: 21
        +3
        Quote: Odessa
        And Mossad works ao around the world.

        I know that))) but does Pupyrchaty know !!
        Quote: Odessa
        That's just how it works only with Arabs (Shirut betakhon was put, tire-bet, Shabak) counter / intelligence.

        This is called intelligence for counterintelligence !!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 August 2012 14: 23
          +3
          Quote: Yarbay

          I know that))) but does Pupyrchaty know!

          Alibek, pimple himself works there hi
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 27 August 2012 14: 30
            +1
            Then I envy his performance)))))))
            And he made a good choice))))))))
            Works for your country)))
        2. Karish
          Karish 27 August 2012 17: 37
          +1
          Quote: Yarbay
          I know that))) but does Pupyrchaty know !!

          In any country, the powers of intelligence and special. services are demarcated and this is a prerequisite.
          Shabak - internal security service - territory of Israel, controlled territories (in the world called occupied)
          Mossad - Foreign Intelligence Service - Abroad of the State of Israel
          OMAN - military intelligence service
          Russia - FSB, SVR, GRU
          Everything is like in normal countries.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 27 August 2012 17: 48
            0
            Not OMAN. AMAN. Agath Modiin.
            1. Karish
              Karish 27 August 2012 19: 32
              0
              Quote: Pimply
              Not OMAN. AMAN. Agaf Modiin

              Yes, if you have a mother, a Russian teacher. literacy has never been different. The four set with an interference and pull. I'm more into physics with math.
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 27 August 2012 14: 40
        +1
        Not really. In Shabak there is a so-called. a "Jewish" department, for example, a security department (protects high-ranking officials), a department for working with foreign residencies.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 27 August 2012 15: 38
          +1
          Quote: Pimply
          In Shabak there is a so-called. a "Jewish" department, for example, a security department (protects senior officials), a department for working with foreign residencies.

          The name of different special services may be different, but the essence is the same intelligence for counterintelligence, if they are of course engaged in intelligence!)))
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 27 August 2012 16: 10
            0
            I mean that the Odessa woman writes that Shabak is only engaged in Arabs. Not only.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 27 August 2012 16: 17
              0
              Quote: Pimply

              I mean that the Odessa woman writes that Shabak is only engaged in Arabs. Not only.
              I thought you answered me!
              So I do not know, you know better !!)))
            2. Odessa
              Odessa 28 August 2012 23: 46
              +1
              Pimply,
              Yes, Shabak is directly subordinate to the prime minister (for those who don’t know, Shabak is not the Ministry of Defense, it doesn’t belong to internal security), and it also protects the government and even the housing of government officials.
        2. Karish
          Karish 27 August 2012 17: 40
          0
          Quote: Pimply
          department for work with foreign residents.

          Shabak is also involved in the protection of senior officials. But to have a foreign residency is not consistent with Mr. Well about his activities. - The territory of Israel. Correct if I am mistaken.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 27 August 2012 17: 48
            +1
            Countering foreign residencies in Israel. So understandable? wink
            1. Karish
              Karish 27 August 2012 19: 34
              0
              Quote: Pimply
              Countering foreign residencies in Israel. So understandable?

              This confirms my words. the activities of the shabak within the borders of the state + controlled territories.
    4. Karish
      Karish 27 August 2012 17: 28
      +1
      Quote: Yarbay
      In addition to the Arabs, Mossad does not work with anyone ??
      in the United States is not an agent Mossad sitting?

      Mossad. like any intelligence. works everywhere.
  • Karish
    Karish 27 August 2012 17: 27
    0
    Quote: Yarbay
    I understand this very well, facilitates recruitment work!
    I don’t see anything wrong or bad!

    Well, PR can be a year or two. Achievements are needed or you will only recruit suckers.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 27 August 2012 17: 37
      +1
      Quote: Karish
      enlist only suckers.

      No, I’m talking about creating an image of a successful organization, and subsequently during recruitment this is one of the arguments for the future agent !!
      Since no one is going to recruit suckers, I suggested that ONE of the auxiliary elements is, but important!
  • Karish
    Karish 27 August 2012 17: 22
    -1
    Quote: Igarr
    The article constantly emphasizes - GRU, GRU ... and expose the KGB spies.
    Funny.

    Nothing funny. it’s not only that there really were a lot of them, in general, the former Soviet officers organized the security service and intelligence of Israel. many of whom were sent by the KGB, nothing is surprising. some of them remained loyal to the company.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2012 17: 37
      0
      Well, as it were, here you are not quite right.
      1. Rumata
        Rumata 27 August 2012 19: 37
        0
        I would even say absolutely wrong =)
  • vezunchik
    vezunchik 27 August 2012 09: 58
    +4
    So Mossad conducts its secrets fighting against the enemies of Israel around the world. Neither time nor distance saves those who raised their hand to the Jewish state and its citizens. Retribution is inevitable!

    Comrade Stalin’s case is lively and effective! And we would have many less traitors if retaliation was inevitable ...
  • Tourist Breakfast
    Tourist Breakfast 27 August 2012 10: 04
    +1
    A lot of pathos in the article. Reminds Soviet agitation. And the author, what do you have with the names?
    Rnven Shiluh ... Isr Hersle ... Mohammsda Baud
    etc. It is impossible to read.
    Scanned a paper book?
    1. Karish
      Karish 27 August 2012 17: 41
      0
      Quote: Tourist's Breakfast
      Rnven Shiluh ... Isr Hersle ... Mohammsda Baud

      Rowan Shiloh, Israel (Isser) Harel. - that's right.
  • borisst64
    borisst64 27 August 2012 10: 21
    +2
    Black NUNE ?????
    Truly romantic and coded!
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 27 August 2012 10: 26
      +1
      In the article, a huge number of Nuns)))) - One of the most famous opera days of Mossad is the work of shock groups that combed the tragedy of the Munich Olympics throughout Europe ***, although the moderators deleted my comment on this subject, but still not I can understand what the author wanted to say!))
      or this-trust is holy shot Israeli intelligence community)))
      1. bachast
        bachast 27 August 2012 11: 58
        0
        Why removed? Alibek was too emotional?))
  • nikel68rusid
    nikel68rusid 27 August 2012 10: 30
    +1
    Infa is good, but VERY MUCH grammatical errors! Impossible to read! sad
    1. bachast
      bachast 27 August 2012 10: 46
      +1
      Where is there a lot? They saw a couple and it is impossible to read. Grammar of the Nazis?
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 27 August 2012 11: 12
        0
        Isaac!
        Actually, you’re right, I’m writing with errors myself, but I am indignant at the stranger !!
        Not an order!
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 27 August 2012 10: 37
    +1
    ** Then the Mossad plan goes to the very top, to the prime minister or defense minister. "Mossad" doesn’t kill anyone on a whim. ** - and in which country does intelligence act on its own and kill on its own whim ?? - Sorry, but the author or an idiot or holds us for idiots !!
  • tan0472
    tan0472 27 August 2012 10: 37
    0
    The author writes: given the capabilities of the Israeli intelligence services incomparable with the muscles of the CIA and the KGB, and lower: Jews can pass for Germans, Italians, Russians, Mexicans, Arabs - anyone. But they are not only similar to Germans, Italians, etc. they live among them. It remains only to recruit and musculature in recruiting is not a help. IMHO.
  • Vlados
    Vlados 27 August 2012 12: 20
    0
    Small but brave, I must pay tribute. I can say that the threat of extermination increases the desire to live, plus the experience and tons of failed operations in the first years (and not only) of the department's existence, hence the experience. The whole secret of successful high-profile espionage operations is that they are all with similar criteria, based on retaliation and prevention of something or someone (mainly). Very well know neighbors, customs, inclinations, languages ​​and their varieties (study of accents and groups). The main emphasis on neighbors, the rest are less worried though ears I would not want to compare the CIA and MI8 with the KGB, if only because the size, budget and political capabilities of these departments are greater, so at the right time in a full-scale espionage operation, Mossad may not be enough for both compared to the same KGB, for example. But the Mossad firmly established itself as a "body" that gives change to anyone and is able to sneakily step on the most sore thumb of a heavyweight, and what else does a small country with huge "friends" around its pop s.
  • Pimply
    Pimply 27 August 2012 13: 01
    0
    A lot of mistakes in the article, a lot. And the article, in fact, is about nothing. Reuven Shiloh, Isser Harel, etc. A lot of both factual and spelling errors.
  • Ratibor12
    Ratibor12 27 August 2012 13: 04
    +2
    Jews effectively destroy other terrorists, as they themselves have a rich terrorist past. Do the names "Irgun", "Lehi" mean anything to anyone? While the British were at war with the Germans, the Jews staged terrorist acts for them (angles). Idiocy! In general, no wonder - a bandit is always better at dealing with another bandit. But despite all the actions of Peisostan, they failed to destroy the Arab terrorist movement. And never succeed. The place of the dead will be taken by new martyrs-horsemen.
    And, by the way, Israel is an artificial state-military base. His special services, the army, industry, and indeed all spheres rely on the United States. And when they say that the Great Mossad supposedly did something there, it becomes ridiculous! After all, both planning and tech support with provision (satellites, ships, AWACS) are all from the patron of the USA.
    Typos are fun too! Black nurse !!! Well it’s scary to imagine !!!

    Who is knocking on the door with a hoof,
    Between the fangs letting foam?
    This Black Nurse growls
    And claws the wall with its claws!

    In general, the article is some cheers-Jewish-patriotic. Uninformative. Now, if the operations were described in detail, their analysis, known details were present ... And so - Be-e-great and Already-a-asy! And that's it.

    I went out in the evening to the garden
    Smoke - and there is Mossad!
    With menorahs in a row
    Everyone pacey move
    1. ward
      ward 27 August 2012 13: 11
      0
      Yes, in general, by and large, you are right ... if you think almost no one knows about the failures of the Mossad ... For example, last year the Palestinians managed to trap and destroy eight employees of this glorious department of a cloak and dagger at once ... plus ..
      1. Karish
        Karish 27 August 2012 17: 45
        0
        Quote: ward
        For example, last year the Palestinians managed to trap and destroy eight employees of this glorious department of a cloak and dagger at once ... plus ..

        If only a link, at least some kind of one was dropped, otherwise you are still old. Blurted out how ....
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 27 August 2012 17: 50
        0
        And detail? Very interesting
    2. Rumata
      Rumata 27 August 2012 13: 24
      0
      to Ratibor12
      How did you suddenly burst in and pop all the covers !!!
      Take a pie from the shelf and do not bother adult uncles to communicate
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 27 August 2012 13: 49
        0
        Quote: Rumata
        Take a pie from the shelf and do not bother adult uncles to communicate

        Quote: Ratibor12
        With menorahs in a row
        Everyone pacey move

        Let's not be rude to each other!
        Everyone has the right to their opinion !!
      2. ward
        ward 27 August 2012 13: 49
        0
        Yes, in your 15 years I was the same ... and now I sit and listen to little Jewish ... well, what happens after a meal ...
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 27 August 2012 13: 55
          0
          you still grow up to mine, and then you listen ....
          1. Odessa
            Odessa 27 August 2012 14: 22
            +1
            Yarbay,
            you still grow up to mine

            Years to old age, to us without old age ... laughing
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 27 August 2012 14: 31
              0
              Quote: Odessa
              Years to old age, to us without old age.

              Escaped))) of course I'm still very young))) but after all rude)))))))))))) \
              1. Odessa
                Odessa 27 August 2012 14: 40
                +2
                Yarbay,
                Burst out)))

                It's good that I did not let it slip))))))) for discharge
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 27 August 2012 14: 42
                  +2
                  and in general Esther, you always appear with Alexander as Bonnie and Clyde together)))))))))
                  1. Odessa
                    Odessa 27 August 2012 14: 48
                    +1
                    Yarbay,
                    and Esther in general, you always appear with Alexander

                    I know that he is in my group on Odnoklassniki, already a moderator, only with bandits there is nothing in common and cannot be)))))))
                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 27 August 2012 14: 56
                      0
                      Quote: Odessa
                      I know that he is in my group on Odnoklassniki, already a moderator, only with bandits there is nothing in common and cannot be)))))))

                      In vain did you take him to your group)))))
                      All cars will offer or in the teeth))))))
                      1. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 27 August 2012 15: 02
                        +1
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        All cars will offer or in the teeth))))))

                        Alibek, why bother, I just work tirelessly. I have no vested interest. By the way, Alibek, you do not occasionally need a good car repeat
                      2. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 27 August 2012 15: 07
                        +1
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Alibek, why are you talking?

                        Do not be offended, I joked unsuccessfully))
                      3. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 27 August 2012 15: 16
                        +1
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        I joked unsuccessfully))

                        No offense, just buy a car and laughing
                      4. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 27 August 2012 15: 18
                        +2
                        I would buy))))))))))))))
                    2. Odessa
                      Odessa 27 August 2012 21: 54
                      +1
                      Yarbay,
                      Alibek, he really almost became the president of Syria.
                      Israeli sorge: life and destiny.
                      http://mishmar.info/izrailskiie-zorge-jizn-i-sudba.html
                    3. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 28 August 2012 00: 07
                      0
                      Esther, I found very interesting events in your link that are very similar to events of very recent times!
                      I will send you in person, I think it’s not worth discussing here!
                2. Karish
                  Karish 27 August 2012 17: 51
                  0
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  You do not need a good car by chance

                  To begin, let's define the concept of * a good car *
                  The machine, as well as poverty, is different- Someone has liquid cabbage soup, someone has small pearls. crying
                3. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 27 August 2012 17: 54
                  +1
                  Quote: Karish
                  To begin, let's define the concept of * a good car *

                  Dear Lexus, will you arrange it? There are more modest ones, for a start we will decide on the size of your wallet. But do you know wallets, as well as different cars laughing
                  Quote: Karish
                  - Someone has thin cabbage soup, someone has small pearls.
                4. Karish
                  Karish 27 August 2012 19: 37
                  0
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Dear Lexus will suit you?

                  Will arrange. Question with delivery, probably pickup from ...?
                  We can import cars no older than two years, as with the year of manufacture?
              2. Yarbay
                Yarbay 27 August 2012 18: 01
                +2
                Quote: Karish
                To begin, let's define the concept of * a good car *
                Immediately visible Jewish grip))) I remember I had a friend, left already))
                He told him let's go eat, he always asked you or me?))))
                your mom cooks better if you come to me without me))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 27 August 2012 14: 48
        +1
        Quote: Yarbay
          2 
        and Esther in general, you always appear with Alexander as Bonnie and Clyde together

        Esther, go look what Alibek wrote, everything hints at a bank robbery bully
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 27 August 2012 14: 50
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Esther, go look what Alibek wrote, all hinting at a bank robbery

          Not our kind is famous for doctors, teachers, engineers))))))
          and you know what’s interesting, always the most famous bandits dreamed just to sit at the table with us at least)))))))
          Then my grandfather explained to me that they dream of being like us !!)))
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 27 August 2012 14: 52
            0
            Quote: Yarbay

            Not our kind is famous for doctors, teachers, engineers

            Alibek, the list is short, you need to decorate. Olegarkh, official, tax inspector, traffic cop, prosecutor laughing
          2. Yarbay
            Yarbay 27 August 2012 14: 59
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Allegarch, official, tax inspector, traffic cop, prosecutor

            I swear it was not)))
            In the supreme court it was))) management of a state enterprise was, but without bribes)))
            the bailiff was))) the merchants were famous))
            By the way, Ibn Sina (Avicenna) is our distant ancestor along my mother’s line))
            but there were none))
          3. Karish
            Karish 27 August 2012 17: 54
            0
            Quote: Yarbay
            By the way, Ibn Sina (Avicenna) is our distant ancestor along my mother’s line))

            Abu Ali Hussein ibn Abdallah ibn Sina [1], or Avitsenna (Afshana near Bukhara, August 16, 980 - Hamadan, June 18, 1037) - a medieval scholar, philosopher and doctor, representative of Eastern Aristotelianism. He was a court physician of the Samanid emirs and Daimitian sultans, for some time was a vizier in Hamadan. In total, he wrote more than 450 works in 29 fields of science, of which only 274 reached us

            Respect !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fellow
    3. Odessa
      Odessa 27 August 2012 14: 53
      +2
      Alexander Romanov,
      Esther, go look what Alibek wrote, everything hints at a bank robbery

      Would say what he is hinting at laughing To hack the Department of State’s security code ...
      and you're with some kind of lousy bank, not seriously, not that level!
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 27 August 2012 15: 00
        +2
        Quote: Odessa
        To crack the security code of the State Department ..

        There are conspiracies and plans of revolutions in the State Department. All of this is already tired, I need cash and I will buy and sell Clinton. laughing
      2. Yarbay
        Yarbay 27 August 2012 15: 02
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        There are conspiracies and plans of revolutions in the State Department. All of this is already tired, I need cash and I will buy and sell Clinton.

        Here it is in our)))))
        You would live in the Caucasus))
      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 27 August 2012 15: 08
        +1
        Quote: Yarbay
        You would live in the Caucasus))

        Yes, not Alibek, I’ll be living in a white house in Washington, and Clinton is my laundress and another slave, but he’s temporarily mistakenly working as the US president, we’ll fix it soon negative
      4. Yarbay
        Yarbay 27 August 2012 15: 10
        0
        Well, get me a vice president at a large oil company?)))
        By old friendship)))
  • Karish
    Karish 27 August 2012 19: 39
    0
    Quote: Odessa
    and you with some kind of lousy bank

    And according to the dream book LICE for money. crying
  • Odessa
    Odessa 27 August 2012 21: 52
    +1
    Karish,
    And according to the dream book LICE for money

    And if you dream of a bank, then to lice, is it logical? laughing
    And if you dream of a bank employee, then 100%, that on a date, he’ll snuggle up on a tank! wassat
  • Karish
    Karish 27 August 2012 17: 48
    +1
    Odesskost- as always +
  • Ratibor12
    Ratibor12 27 August 2012 14: 03
    0
    Quote: Rumata
    How did you suddenly burst in and pop all the covers !!!
    Take a pie from the shelf and do not bother adult uncles to communicate


    Thank you, all-merciful "Adult Uncle" for your good wishes! I won't say it for a pie, but I'm just enjoying delicious Arabian halva! And to you, about the pearl of the Internet, I wish you a successful taste of the amazing kremzlah mixed with cougol and tsimes.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 27 August 2012 14: 08
      0
      Quote: Ratibor12
      Amazing hremslah mixed with cugol and cimes.

      Is there a translation ??))
      1. Karish
        Karish 27 August 2012 17: 56
        +1
        Quote: Yarbay
        Is there a translation ??))

        But I don’t know what he wrote, stew with carrots. I honestly don't like it. wassat
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 27 August 2012 18: 10
        +1
        http://www.gotovim.ru/national/jewish/3561.shtml
        Hremslach

        http://www.gotovim.ru/national/jewish/3570.shtml
        Coogol

        http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A6%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%81
        Tsimes
        1. Karish
          Karish 27 August 2012 18: 34
          0
          Quote: Pimply
          http://www.gotovim.ru/national/jewish/3561.shtml
          Hremslach

          http://www.gotovim.ru/national/jewish/3570.shtml
          Coogol

          http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A6%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%81
          Tsimes

          Respect - Pimpled, I did eat it.
          Now I know what to call. Everything except tsimes is even very nothing.
          Do you want a good car?
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 27 August 2012 18: 55
            0
            I am right and dumb. Now, if money ... fellow
  • Pimply
    Pimply 27 August 2012 13: 54
    0
    Eat vitamin
    1. Odessa
      Odessa 27 August 2012 14: 20
      +2
      Pimply,
      Eat vitamin

      Or an oscar? ?! And you don’t have rejuvenating apples? laughing
  • apro
    apro 27 August 2012 13: 45
    +1
    If you are so smart, why are you so poor, why is the massad fighting for 60 years and can’t win? rocket attacks routine? Maybe their task was to have tension around Israel?
    1. Karish
      Karish 27 August 2012 18: 00
      0
      Quote: apro
      If you are so smart, why are you so poor, why is the massad fighting for 60 years and can’t win? rocket attacks routine? Maybe their task was to have tension around Israel?

      Yes, I think the same thing, everyone says that we have all the money, and we control the whole world. It seems that they surrounded me with income. Brothers Jews - share the money and power !!!!!!!!!!!!!
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 27 August 2012 18: 07
        +2
        I am next! fellow And then you plow at the plant, but where is my share in global financial flows ?! crying
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2012 18: 10
          0
          Stop stop, I want it too!
          1. Karish
            Karish 27 August 2012 18: 15
            0
            Quote: Pimply
            Stop stop, I want it too!

            Pimpled, I asked to share, we do not take partners. chop the tails.
            You are already allergic to hummus. probably overeat all blue and pimpled wassat . Give money for loans? Or buy something laughing
            Do you want a good car? I can get it at a cheap price. The supplier is reliable, the Odessa citizen will become a guarantor. he is her old friend. love
      2. Ratibor12
        Ratibor12 28 August 2012 00: 51
        0
        Quote: Karish
        Brothers Jews - share the money and power !!!!!!!!!!!!!


        And you shake your rabbis by the beard - maybe it will fall out from under the bale! :)
    2. Common sense
      Common sense 27 August 2012 22: 40
      +1
      Because tens of billions are invested in Islamic terror, and in the Mossad, the amount is two orders of magnitude less.
  • Vladimir 70
    Vladimir 70 27 August 2012 13: 56
    +2
    What is the big plus of the Mossad, and Israel in general? The fact that in order to achieve their goals of destroying their enemies and traitors, they spit on the opinion and laws of the world community and act only in their own interests. Therefore, Israel can still exist surrounded by its enemies.
    1. ward
      ward 27 August 2012 14: 02
      0
      But this is the correct opinion ... and pay attention to them nothing happens for this ... plus ...
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2012 14: 11
      +1
      Well, basically, ANY 8 intelligence does this)
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 27 August 2012 14: 16
        +1
        Quote: Pimply
        Well, basically ANY intelligence does this 8

        This is what I want to say from the first comment)))))))))))))
        Unless, of course, the head of that intelligence is Stirlitz)))
      2. Vladimir 70
        Vladimir 70 27 August 2012 14: 29
        0
        Well, basically ANY intelligence does this
        So, but not quite so. If Russia acted like Israel, then the militant bases on the territories of other states from which the militants penetrate would inflict massive blows, spitting on the opinions of European people, or long ago fighting Berezovsky would choke on an orange peel ....
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 27 August 2012 14: 33
          0
          Quote: Vladimir 70
          like Israel, then on the bases of militants

          give an example !!
          And the Russian special services are also eliminating their opponents abroad !!
          1. Vladimir 70
            Vladimir 70 27 August 2012 15: 10
            +2
            give an example !!
            .... August 18, 2011Israeli aircraft attacked the city of Rafah in the Gaza Strip, resulting in the deaths of at least six people .....
            And the Russian special services are also eliminating their opponents abroad !!
            Yes, they will, but not as "without a tower" like Israel. How nice it would be if every traitor to Russia's interests knew that he would be physically destroyed wherever he was.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 August 2012 16: 12
              +1
              Russia has a center of confrontation - inside its territory. Look, it's not a day - a message about a special operation with the destruction of a house or two.
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2012 14: 43
          0
          Dear, Russia has all the main foreign militant bases on its territory. You remind about a couple of situations in BV, for example, in Qatar? 8)
          1. Vladimir 70
            Vladimir 70 27 August 2012 15: 13
            0
            Dear, Russia has all the main foreign militant bases on its territory. You remind about a couple of situations in BV, for example, in Qatar?
            I don’t argue that there are militant bases on the territory of Russia. It is also clear that when EBN was "driving" themselves, they left a bunch of weapons, but the weapons come from neighboring territories.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 August 2012 16: 14
              -1
              Which one? Which ones? And most importantly - why? If it’s easier to get on your own? From abroad - mainly financing and ideology. And so - and training bases, and weapons - everything goes, with rare exceptions, from the territories of the Russian Federation.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 27 August 2012 16: 20
                0
                Quote: Pimply

                Which one? Which ones? And most importantly - why? If it’s easier to get on your own?

                I completely agree!!
  • General
    General 27 August 2012 15: 17
    0
    if you kill enemies, this does not mean that the Mossad is a "legend", everyone can kill, the most powerful special service is mi6 and SIS, and no Mossad members can be stronger than them
    1. Vladimir 70
      Vladimir 70 27 August 2012 15: 24
      +2
      The point is not that everyone can kill, but that, while upholding its state interests, Israel spits on world opinion.
  • mizantropi
    mizantropi 27 August 2012 15: 22
    +3
    Some things are not ashamed to learn even from an obvious enemy, in order to apply his methods against him.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 27 August 2012 15: 55
      +8
      Hmm, let's not associate yourself with all of Russia? You personally can even hate Israel and the Jews, but you do not determine the policy of the Russian Federation, but Mr. Putin V.V. stated during a visit to Israel that we are a dual state.
      So I believe him more. hi
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 27 August 2012 16: 09
        0
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Israel

        By the way, I have a very good attitude towards the state of Israel and the Jews in general, one can say an excellent attitude)))
        But I love Jews more than Israel)))
        1. Karish
          Karish 27 August 2012 18: 20
          0
          Quote: Yarbay
          But I love Jews more than Israel)))

          Anegdot
          - Givi, do you like chicken?
          Eat, yes, and so net.
          drinks
      2. Ratibor12
        Ratibor12 27 August 2012 17: 19
        0
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        ... and here is Mr. Putin V.V. declared during a visit to Israel that we are a dual state ...


        That's it! Said it suddenly and bluntly!!! Huh! And what I thought - I didn’t say anything about that. Oh, this cunning Putin! Taki was so meaningfully silent and ... smiling!
        P.S. What is most interesting - Israel is praised by people with German flags! In how it turned! From this story clearly stick out pace Mossad's ears !!! :)
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2012 17: 39
          +1
          Israeli flags were replaced by German site administration. In order not to add unnecessary negatives. And often cons are already figurats on one territorial affiliation.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 27 August 2012 17: 43
            0
            Quote: Pimply

            Israeli flags replaced with German site administration

            Wow)))) in the sense of first immediately minus ???
            tree sticks)))))))))))
        2. Karish
          Karish 27 August 2012 18: 22
          0
          Quote: Ratibor12
          P.S. What is most interesting - Israel is praised by people with German flags! In how it turned! Mossad’s ears are clearly sticking out of this story !!! :)

          Even the most recent user knows that the flag is on the server, or I don’t know how, I’m from Israel, and the German flag and 99% of Germans are from Israel.
          1. Ratibor12
            Ratibor12 27 August 2012 21: 04
            0
            Quote: Karish
            I am from Israel, and the flag is German


            Wai-wai! How, however, it is unpatriotic !!! Why is there such disobedience and secrecy !!! But what about the support of the national manufacturer? Is it difficult to get a flag? For the present ... Erez tsreota is not a problem! Or are they only making American polyethylene in China?
  • Rumata
    Rumata 27 August 2012 15: 56
    +1
    Quote: Yarbay
    Eli Cohen at the moment when he could not read the four main tenets of Islam by heart.
    Sounds like the truth ??

    In fact, the GRU provided Syria with new equipment to intercept signals, Israel found out about this too late. When the direction finder detected his transmissions, in order to prove something, it was no longer necessary to postulate anything. He was arrested during the transmission of the message, among his personal belongings there were a lot of secret photos and documents
    There are many interesting stories related to Eli Ken, how he lived in Argentina for a long time, and came to trust in Arab politicians and industrial tycoons, how he went on vacation and secretly transferred to Israel to stay with his family. By the way, the last time he secretly visited Israel when his son was born.
    Z.Y
    Comments are buggy = (
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 27 August 2012 16: 07
      0
      Quote: Rumata
      There are many interesting stories related to Eli Kan.

      I know!!))
      And as the Israeli special forces wanted to steal his body, by the way, it was also unsuccessful and therefore they write about it nowhere how his body was then hidden)))
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 27 August 2012 16: 23
    0
    Mossad is a strong enough special force. It was somewhere on a par with the Stasi. And they were taught to the CIA by the Britons, but they have enough experience. scored in 700 years.
    it’s a pity that the hunchback closed the practice of eliminating traitors who flushed abroad. no matter how many problems we had
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 27 August 2012 16: 36
      +2
      Well, about Britons taught ... There, more was built on the confrontation.
  • atesterev
    atesterev 27 August 2012 17: 05
    0
    I don’t understand, intelligence is intelligence, and elimination service, this is elimination service. These are two big differences, although one may be subordinate to the other.
    By the way, it’s not the scouts who stormed Amin’s palace, they did their work a little earlier.
    1. Karish
      Karish 27 August 2012 18: 26
      0
      Quote: atesterev
      By the way, it’s not the scouts who stormed Amin’s palace, they did their work a little earlier

      All were in the GRU structure.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 27 August 2012 22: 45
        +1
        Quote: Karish
        All were in the GRU structure.

        My dear comrades, read the documents!
        The group * Alpha * of the KGB of the USSR participated in the storming of Amin's palace and the international battalion was an auxiliary force!
        GRU has nothing to do with it !!
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 August 2012 23: 33
          +1
          Alpha is only a part.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 28 August 2012 00: 02
            0
            Quote: Pimply
            Alpha is only a part.

            dear, well, you like to argue, just like a professor)))
            Well, open the Internet and look, nobody except Alpha participated directly in the storming of the palace, the cover was an international battalion of immigrants from Central Asia and the Caucasus, mainly Tajiks and knowing the languages ​​they used in Afghanistan!
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 28 August 2012 00: 20
              0
              They stormed two groups, one from Alpha - more precisely, then still group "A" of the KGB of the USSR, 24 people, code name - "Thunder". The other is the KGB special reserve, graduates of the advanced training courses for officers, 30 people, "Zenith". In addition, there was a so-called. "Muslim" (not an international battalion), of Tajiks, Uzbeks and Turkmens, consisting of 520 people, all soldiers of the second year of service, with additional training, and an airborne company.

              During the assault on Taj-Bek, 10 officers of the KGB special forces, 6 people from the "Muslim battalion" and 9 paratroopers were killed. From group "A" two were killed.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 28 August 2012 00: 43
                +1
                Pimpled))) and where does the GRU ??)))
                The battalion did not participate in the storming of the palace building; read the memoirs of the commander of Alpha!
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 28 August 2012 13: 20
                  +1
                  I read the memoirs of the Alpha commander back in the mid-90s, one of the first books on the topic was. Did I write GRU somewhere? I wrote that the group from Unit A is only part of the assault group, 24 people. The GRU included the so-called. a "Muslim battalion" that provided support and cover for the outer perimeter.
  • gregor6549
    gregor6549 27 August 2012 18: 17
    +1
    As far as I know, Mossad, like any other Israeli secret service, never tries to PR itself, and even that which is made public, the Mossad does not comment. Therefore, only those who, by the nature of their service or criminal activity, have encountered and received (or did not receive) from her forehead can judge the effectiveness of the Mossad’s work.

    Probably, like all other special services, Mossad had successes and failures, as in the end, everything rests on specific bosses and performers, and they, and how all people tend to make mistakes.

    How legitimate Mossad’s actions is is another matter. But they were the first to enforce the rule that no terrorist who kills Israeli citizens should, wherever possible, go unpunished.
    And this rule has long been adopted by the special services of other countries, including the United States and Russia.

    By the way, among the obvious successes of the Mossad. in addition to the well-known capture of Eichmann, one can attribute the introduction of his agent Cohen into the immediate environment of the Syrian President somewhere in the 70 years (I do not remember exactly). Moreover, this agent managed to rise to the rank of colonel of the Syrian security service and enter the list of candidates for the presidency of this country. One can imagine how much intelligence he managed to deliver to Mossad over the years of his service in the Syrian security system. The Syrians covered him during the next radio session with Mossad with the help of radio delegators set by the USSR and after much torture they tried and hanged him.
  • Stasi.
    Stasi. 27 August 2012 19: 44
    +6
    You can not love the Jews and Israel, but you can not respect the Israeli secret services. Even the enemies of Israel respectfully respond to the Israeli secret services, which have proved their professionalism more than once. I would very much like for the Russian special services to act tough in relation to all enemies of Russia, for our government to act in the interests of the country also Israeli in the name of the interests of Israel.
  • bask
    bask 27 August 2012 20: 26
    +1
    I agree. Something like a massada we need to desperately .. But for this we need the political will at the top which is not present and will not be in the near future. We have specialists no worse and better.
  • Odessa
    Odessa 27 August 2012 22: 36
    +1
    By the way, on the official site of the Mossad, there is an announcement for the gifted, if anyone wishes, you can send a resume, and if you are interested in your candidacy, the Mossad personnel department will contact you. bully
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 28 August 2012 00: 03
      +1
      Quote: Odessa
      By the way

      Only for the homeland))
    2. Kshatriy
      Kshatriy 28 August 2012 17: 17
      +1
      Quote: Odessa
      By the way, on the official site of the Mossad, there is an announcement for the gifted, if anyone wishes, you can send a resume, and if you are interested in your candidacy, the Mossad personnel department will contact you.

      She ... Esther ... only if you will promote my resume ... then in person, ..... if your pressure exceeds my resistance ... under unforeseen circumstances favorable for your intelligence .-- exclusively tied to Your Charm, it is quite possible ....... and so on and so forth ............ As it is extremely correctly expressed, below Alibek, ----- Only for the Homeland)))) )
  • gregor6549
    gregor6549 28 August 2012 03: 11
    0
    In my unenlightened view, the main problem of the Russian special services is that the special services of the Foreign Intelligence Service, the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Defense, etc. have long been tough competing with each other, often duplicating each other, claiming a leading role in the case of the success of the special operation or substituting competitors in the event of the failure of such operations. Hence the endless leapfrog with the special services presented as another reorganization.
    1. BarrettM95
      BarrettM95 28 August 2012 10: 29
      0
      In fact, there are several special services in Israel. Another question is that we know little about them, and all the more so, we don’t know about their mutual relations.
      Shabak or (Shin-bet) (Hebrew שב"כ is an abbreviation of Hebrew שרות ביטחון כללי, Sherut Bitakhon Klali) - Israel's General Security Service.

      Shin-Bet belongs to the Israeli intelligence system and is engaged in counterintelligence and internal security. Its function is comparable to the FBI and the FSB. Reported directly to the Prime Minister of Israel.
      AMAN (Hebrew אמ"ן from Hebrew אגף המודיעין - Military Intelligence Directorate) is Israel's military intelligence, created in 1950 on the basis of the Intelligence Department of the General Staff of the Israel Defense Forces.

      "AMAN" - an independent service that does not belong to any kind of troops, is, along with "Shabak" and "Mossad" one of the three main Israeli intelligence services. It reports directly to the Prime Minister of Israel. The staff for 1996 is 7000 people.
      Information taken from Wikipedia, I apologize in advance.
      Pay attention to the wording one of the three main Israeli , that is, there are also not basic ones.
  • Philer
    Philer 28 August 2012 05: 16
    +1
    Mossad, of course, executes the terrorists, but who said that the rest of the special services are not doing this? Just do not shout about it.

    Here is an interesting info on the Mossad, including the history of occurrence:

    http://weaponscollection.com/specnaz-mira/1544-izrailskie-specpodrazdeleniya-i-i

    h-vooruzhenie.html

  • gregor6549
    gregor6549 28 August 2012 17: 13
    +1
    And a few words about how, with such special equipment as Mossad, Israel cannot defeat its enemies. Yes, because Israel is hitting bandits with an eye on the public opinion and opinion of its allies (USA, etc.) If it hadn’t looked back, then Hezbollah and Hamas would not have been talked about because of their absence.
    If Israel managed to defeat the regular armed forces of Egypt and Syria in all previous wars, armed with the most advanced equipment and weapons at that time, then it would have gouged a handful of bandits without any special problems.
    The problem is that these bandits as they shoot so immediately hide behind the backs of women and children.
    You can giggle at the Jews and call them all kinds of words. There are enough hunters for this, all the more bad business is simple. But the fact that at this time their aircraft are some of the most professional and efficient aircraft in the world, no one argues. Moreover, the Armed Forces, where they value the life of every soldier, do not achieve high-profile victories at any cost. The Russian Armed Forces would learn to value and protect their soldiers in this way and everything would be OK
  • Kshatriy
    Kshatriy 28 August 2012 18: 32
    0
    Owing to my stupidity, I can probably summarize in some way my completely delusional fabrications about the State of Israel (or maybe I'm not so stupid - how do I think about myself?) .. Mossad, like intelligence .... I'm all confused .. ... (Mossad .... Massad) --- how is it right? ... Yes, and good luck .... Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin-Kingdom of Heaven-The will given to him from above created this state (I can be mistaken in the light of the great his stupidity and lack of competence on the tolerance and democratic origin of the new existing state .... correct if not right) ...... Russian General _Hero of the Soviet Union, Moshe-Dayan, in the image and likeness (of the Red Army), created the Army of this of a state that beat and beats with its Spirit, all its opponents. Personnel schools, like Suvorov schools, seem to still educate the military elite of V.V. Israel, (somehow the information from Sergey the user of this resource is our man ... he has such a helicopter in the avatar) .... Summing up the Global Excellence and the North African States possessing NUCLEAR weapons ..... and we conclude ... we don’t come without a bow ......... schA second ... When in winter we eat strawberries from Israel, we are kind with a word we remember Golda-Meer, which created in the image of a collective farm in Israel (Kibbutz .. it’s called .. understand it) ... It laid the civil society of the country ... (if not right - correct) ..... And where her small Motherland ... and where did she copy the meaning of civil society in the country that she sculpted from the peoples she was going to gather? The second commander of the Mossad gained great fame at the time. a native of Russia by the name of Isrs Hersl. It was this undersized intelligence genius who turned Mossad from a regional power into an equal player in international espionage.
    Based on the foregoing, I propose to stop considering Russia to be the heir to the SSSSR .... in favor of the country of Israel ..... (a third of the population of Israel speaks and thinks in Russian .. let's not forget about that) ... ..Here now try to accuse me of anti-Semitism ..... and then - a warning -------... ban ... you know .....
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 28 August 2012 18: 57
      0
      There is a difference between completely copying an idea and taking some points from it, and letting others go. AOI was created in the likeness of the British Armed Forces, for most of those who created the army either fought in the army Her Majesty during the Second World War or against it, on the territory of Israel itself (Lekhi, HaAgan, etc.). Aliya from the USSR generally consisted for the most part of the intelligentsia or the proletariat, and not the military, because they created kibbutzim and practically did not participate in the resistance.
      By the way, the kibbutzim themselves were transformed beyond recognition and you eat strawberries not because there is communism, but because the farmers did not turn their nose off the products of High Tech boomers and now they grow 4 crops a year in the desert, using robots and an ideal microclim.
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 28 August 2012 19: 14
      +4
      Misha, when in your past texts "Jews" regularly surfaced - why are you surprised at the ban?

      As for the army, and other things - you're not quite right. To begin with, the Israeli army is flesh from the flesh of the British army, since both the First World War and the Second - it was all there. Some of the commanders passed the Soviet army school, but a rather small part.

      It’s ridiculous to consider Stalin the founding father of Israel. Rather, he did not interfere particularly simply. At one point - a very short one - did not prevent the purchase of a batch of weapons. Israel, in fact, was created by three factors - the faith of the people living there in the possibility of a state, the ability to protect their faith - and the Holocaust.
      1. Kshatriy
        Kshatriy 28 August 2012 21: 15
        0
        Zhen read very carefully your publications on this resource. Thank you very much for the article "Israel - a new vector of Russia's Middle East policy ... (plane --- if --- finish !! ... full school ... no kidding. . to be honest ..) here, under the impression of your article, I made a little comic commentary on the topic of Massad - the successor of KGB ... Eugene is really a joke on real events ..., a little grotesque ..., a little banter .... you are not the only one to laugh ... Regards, Mikhail .....
  • Bully
    Bully 28 August 2012 23: 34
    +4
    The effectiveness of any intelligence service is based on the activities of agents in the enemy camp. And here we have to admit that the sons of Israel with their "institution of Jewish brides" have the latest information from any level of power of their potential enemy.
    1. Kshatriy
      Kshatriy 29 August 2012 20: 39
      0
      Quote: Bully
      their "institution of Jewish brides"

      Academician Sakharov's wife Boner ... may recall her words: "The Russian state will disintegrate into 45 leaving parts .... drain ...
  • ivanovbg
    ivanovbg 29 August 2012 15: 33
    0
    In addition to employees and agents in their operations "Mossad" relies heavily on the so-called "Sayanim" - An international network of volunteer assistants. Sayanim may be only purebred Jews sympathetic to the state of Israel. They act on a voluntary basis (i.e. do not receive money) and only in the territory of their country. However, the Sayanim network should not be confused with the agent network. A voluntary assistant rather serves as a freelance employee, and also assists Mossad agents with his property and public relations.

    Every Mossad officer has a huge advantage over all other officers from all over the world. Having made a recruiting proposal to a purebred Jew, a Mossad officer can be absolutely sure that even in the incredible case in which he is denied "assistance", he will not be "betrayed" to the authorities of the respective country.

    The whole power of the Mossad is that the Jews are loyal not to the state and society where they live, but to Israel. This is truly colossal power.
  • ivanovbg
    ivanovbg 29 August 2012 15: 35
    +1
    In addition to employees and agents in their operations "Mossad" relies heavily on the so-called "Sayanim" - An international network of volunteer assistants. Sayanim can only be thoroughbred Jews sympathetic to Israel. They act on a voluntary basis (i.e. do not receive money) and only in the territory of their country. However, the Sayanim network should not be confused with the agent network. A voluntary assistant rather serves as a freelance employee, and also assists Mossad agents with his property and public relations.

    Every Mossad officer has a huge advantage over all other intelligence officers in the world. Having made a recruiting proposal to a purebred Jew, a Mossad officer can be absolutely sure that even in the incredible case in which he is denied "assistance", he will not be "betrayed" to the authorities of the respective country.

    The whole power of the Mossad is that the Jews are loyal not to the state and society where they live, but to Israel. This is truly colossal power.
  • SlavaP
    SlavaP 30 August 2012 00: 05
    +1
    Dear colleagues, after reading the article (so-so) and comments, I was very surprised - but where are our notebook trolls and trolls?
    The first time in many days I read and enjoyed - the true Officer Assembly. He thought for a long time about the trolls and came to the conclusion - either they all drank vodka together or hid - and suddenly Mossad would calculate by ip!
    All Shalom!
  • kuzmich
    kuzmich 30 August 2012 10: 01
    +1
    mi6, Zionomossad, the CIA is one big structure. The article as a whole is one-sided, it’s sick to read about the fight against terror, some boorish Palestinians do not want to free their lands under Jewish settlement. Arabs are directly terrorists alone, they interfere with life. Objectivity is not enough.
  • NUT
    NUT 31 August 2012 11: 35
    +1
    and me too
    Quote: SlavaP
    after reading the article (so-so) and comments, I was very surprised
    that even Ascetic walked by and did not dare to visit it
    Quote: SlavaP
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