To replace "Sotnik": Work has begun in Russia on the creation of 4th generation military equipment

In Russia, work has begun on the creation of a new, fourth generation of combat equipment intended for "soldiers of the future." The development was ordered by the Russian Ministry of Defense. The press service of Rostec reports.

The new equipment should in the future replace the third-generation "Sotnik" equipment, which in turn will replace the second-generation "Ratnik" equipment currently supplied to the troops. The specialists of the companies included in Rostec have embarked on the stage of research and development.

TsNIITochmash, Kalashnikov concern and a number of other companies are taking part in the work. At the stage of research and development, combat equipment of foreign armies will be analyzed and the prospects for the development of Russian combat equipment of the fourth generation will be determined. At the first stage, the tactical and technical characteristics of the future equipment will be determined, which has not even received a name yet.

As explained in Rostec, it is planned to create a fundamentally new complex, which will include new protection and life support systems, robotic equipment and integrated information exchange systems, new weapon.

Currently, the Russian army is receiving the second-generation "Ratnik" combat equipment, while Rostec is developing the third-generation "Sotnik" equipment. As noted, some of the elements created for the Centurion are already undergoing preliminary tests. It is planned that the first sets of third generation combat equipment will enter the troops in 2025.

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[Guru]

The new equipment should in the future replace the equipment of the third generation "Sotnik", which, in turn, will replace the equipment of the second generation "Ratnik",

From it like There is no "Warrior" yet, but "Sotnik" is coming to replace him, the "Sotnik" modules are also being tested, and "Tysyachnik" is already catching up with him. Well, here's how not to think about sawing. In half a year, the Mega-Super-suit will be released more abruptly than in the War Hammer, the Ultramarines will walk in formation.

[Reserve buildbat]

"Warrior" enters the army in tens of thousands of sets a year. It’s strange somehow he’s not there
"The centurion" is being developed already as a set, that is, the elements have been worked out, it is time to put them together.
New equipment is still being developed in elements. So, most likely, you need to understand the situation. And then you, wherever you spit, "cut".

[Guru]

Ivan, you should at least read the article, and then write.

Currently, the Russian army is receiving the second-generation "Ratnik" combat equipment, while Rostec is developing the third-generation "Sotnik" equipment.

Only develops.

[Reserve buildbat]

I read the article, but you, Oleg, did not manage to understand what I answered you
The development of such kits goes in several stages. First, element by element, then in a complex, in an assembled product. So the "Sotnik" is developing, in fact, a system of interaction of new elements, and for promising equipment - elements. That is, new communication systems, weapons, armor protection, exoskeleton, finally.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Guru

Ivan, you should at least read the article, and then write.

Currently, the Russian army is receiving the second-generation "Ratnik" combat equipment, while Rostec is developing the third-generation "Sotnik" equipment.

Only develops.

The completion of the development of the Centurion is not far off. Some of the Centurion's elements are already undergoing preliminary tests.

... As noted, some of the elements created for the Centurion are already undergoing preliminary tests. It is planned that the first sets of third generation combat equipment will enter the troops in 2025.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Stroibat stock

"Warrior" enters the army in tens of thousands of sets a year. It’s strange somehow he’s not there

Even we, in the DPR, have it "fragmentarily".

WG DNR at the parade on May 9, 2015. True, "Ratnik" was issued for passage, and then taken away, but that is - "specificity"
Now they do not give it out, but you can find it in the military ...

[Border guard]

If we live for today, we will lose the battle for the future.

[Guru]

If we live for today, we will lose the battle for the future.

I do not even dispute, but the problem is different.
A warrior is just an armor, glasses, a walkie-talkie, a backpack, etc. The centurion has not yet been brought to mind, but a new one is going to fight. Therefore the news;

To replace "Sotnik": Work has begun in Russia on the creation of 4th generation military equipment

designed for "People grabbing"

[carstorm 11]

Why is that? It all starts with the development of aonveption. The centurion has already passed it. Now we are creating elements and their interaction. Then the tests. 4 moaning does not even have a clear concept. So you need to create it. This is a bunch of analysis work. Everything is going as it should.

[credo]

Quote: Guru

If we live for today, we will lose the battle for the future.

I do not even dispute, but the problem is different.
A warrior is just an armor, glasses, a walkie-talkie, a backpack, etc. The centurion has not yet been brought to mind, but a new one is going to fight. Therefore the news;

To replace "Sotnik": Work has begun in Russia on the creation of 4th generation military equipment

designed for "People grabbing"

In order to understand the essence of what is happening, you should, for example, plunge into history and read about how military and civil aircraft were created in the USSR in various design bureaus and how many intermediate models were between those models that went into series and are now heard , which did not go into the series.
It was due to such work that world-class products appeared that conquered the sky and aroused the respect of both friends and enemies of the USSR. The same thing is happening now and there is nothing of what you call "shavaet", because to develop more modern products you need to be constantly on the subject, and not rest on the laurels of the past.

[hagen]

Quote: Guru

The Sotnik modules are also being tested, and the Thousand-year unit is already catching up to replace it. Well, here's how not to think about sawing.

You obviously think that you need to start thinking about new modules when the knees of the Centurion are worn down to holes? I think that the head of a designer must work constantly, and this requires new tasks and goals.

[Ros 56]

Absolutely true, but one thing must not be forgotten, that the best is the enemy of the good. If you constantly jump from one to another, in the end there will be neither better nor good, proven by practice.

[hagen]

Quote: Ros 56

If you constantly jump from one to another, in the end there will be neither better nor good, proven by practice.

Probably the practice of making the UAZ-452?

Quote: Ros 56

do not forget one thing that the best is the enemy of the good

Right. In the case when an amateur is taken to improve a master's product. In the normal case, when a master is improved by another even better master, or the master himself improves his product on the basis of the experience gained, then from the Su-2 they eventually "grow" into the Su-57. Or from T-34 to T-14 (which is closer to whom).

[A009]

Please tell me how it should be? created and not do anything else for ten years until it becomes obsolete?
For example, the same Apple or Samsung, having released the phone, are developing not the next (it already exists) but the next concept. And, in fact, in all areas so. If you do not want to defend from competitors. So tell me how it should be then? and what then did not cut and research?

[SHURUM -BURUM]

Please tell me how it should be? Have you created it and not do anything else for ten years until it gets old?
It is necessary to take on one specific thing from this set and QUICKLY make and implement its new version. It is important not to smash the name of the new system , but the fact that the lagging element of the system will be promptly brought up to the level of modern requirements

[credo]

Quote: Guru

The new equipment should in the future replace the equipment of the third generation "Sotnik", which, in turn, will replace the equipment of the second generation "Ratnik",

From it like There is no "Warrior" yet, but "Sotnik" is coming to replace him, the "Sotnik" modules are also being tested, and "Tysyachnik" is already catching up with him. Well, here's how not to think about sawing. In half a year, the Mega-Super-suit will be released more abruptly than in the War Hammer, the Ultramarines will walk in formation.

And what, apart from sawing, your fantasy does not work in another direction?
All the leading countries of the world are doing the same, in view of the rapid change in the situation in the theater of operations of the world and in connection with the constant development and improvement of various types of weapons.

[halpat]

The Americans were put into service in 1987 ...

and even a prize was given ... to the developers
"Oscar"

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Guru

The new equipment should in the future replace the equipment of the third generation "Sotnik", which, in turn, will replace the equipment of the second generation "Ratnik",

From it like There is no "Warrior" yet, but "Sotnik" is coming to replace him, the "Sotnik" modules are also being tested, and "Tysyachnik" is already catching up with him. Well, here's how not to think about sawing. In half a year, the Mega-Super-suit will be released more abruptly than in the War Hammer, the Ultramarines will walk in formation.

"thousander" will continue ...

[SHURUM -BURUM]

There is no "Warrior" yet, and "Sotnik" is coming to replace him, the "Sotnik" modules are also being tested, and "Tysyachnik" is already catching up with him.
As in an old joke about the wedding night and a 10 m long peignoir: "The process is important, not the result." If the plane was built like this, then it would stand on an eternal slipway, while the head of the shop has a lifetime order portfolio, and everyone else has a stable job and salary. Dream! Now it is clear what the comrade said above?

[saygon66]

- Advertising! The other day I met the Marines - all with the same pouches for automatic magazines from the fifties ...
- Where is everyone? Where is at least 6SH112? Are the developments obsolete before they enter the troops?

[credo]

[quote = saygon66] - Advertising! The other day I met the Marines - all with the same pouches for automatic magazines from the fifties ...
- Where is everyone? Where is at least 6SH112? Do developments become obsolete before they enter the troops? [/ Quote
So far, this is not of a mass nature and goes primarily to the special forces. The usual thing.

[saygon66]

- This, along the way, entered the system ... In the mid-eighties they ran with a canvas pouch on the harness, although there were already "Belt-A" and "Belt-B", in the mid-nineties - they again, although there were all kinds in the developed a lot ... two thousandths - the same canvas, gnarled pouches ... How long?

[halpat]

Quote: saygon66

- This, along the way, entered the system ... In the mid-eighties they ran with a canvas pouch on the harness, although there were already "Belt-A" and "Belt-B", in the mid-nineties - they again, although there were all kinds in the developed a lot ... two thousandths - the same canvas, gnarled pouches ... How long?

if a war happens and, accordingly, mobilization will not only give out these pouches, but also kirzach, cotton, garrison cap, ssh-40, ak-47 and more, what kind of "warrior"?

[saygon66]

- Sometimes the Motherland, in the person of the warehouse manager, is amazingly stingy ... I won’t be surprised if this happens ...

[IT Professional]

Quote: Halpat

ak-47

Or maybe the carbine is even tighter than the Mosink ..

At the training camp we were given garrison caps, barnyard boots, riding breeches, tunics, all rank according to rank .. just new, from the warehouse ..

[halpat]

cowhide (officer) boots! better than any ankle boots will be

[IT Professional]

Yes, by the way, they were comfortable, I still managed to choose the right size. I even wanted to take it, there was an opportunity, but the conscripts asked, gave it away (the boy showed that he had been rubbed through and through on the bootleg).

[English tarantas]

Is the SCS still in storage or not? Forgotten.

[saygon66]

- With such prices for them on the American market, it is unlikely ...

[Disant]

why are you slandering? well balanced in height, sturdy, roomy pouch. The same sizes come in sets with unloading.
and the Marines just walked with them on guard past you - no of course! It's just convenient. And they are always at hand in any unit, along with the machine gun.

[saygon66]

- I had to wear them ... They were not very good on the standard RPS, and even now, when they are clinging to the belt of a new model - and at all ... And if this is the ideal, then why throw money down the drain, creating new types of unloading systems ...

[Filxnumx]

How long?

The rhetorical question is answered with no less "bearded" phrase: until it is erased to holes. And stocks in warehouses will not run out.

[Captain45]

Quote: saygon66

- Advertising! The other day I met the Marines - all with the same pouches for automatic magazines from the fifties ...
- Where is everyone? Where is at least 6SH112? Are the developments obsolete before they enter the troops?

At the next congress of the CPSU, Leonid Brezhnev is asked the question:
- Leonid Ilyich, they are reporting from the localities that there is no meat in the stores. What to tell people?
- Comrades, we are marching towards communism by leaps and bounds. The cattle just can't keep up with us!

[APASUS]

It certainly looks impressive, I would like to try what this beast actually can

[Igool]

Quote: APASUS

what actually can this beast

Unfortunately, nothing can be done yet. It's not even a prototype, just an advertisement, as they see the equipment of the future. Individual elements of the "weave" have not even been field tested yet. Laboratory only. They don't work in the bundle yet, there are too many problems

[yehat2]

You can find fault with a number of details, but what exactly finishes me is that organizations that have a lot of money, but absolutely no prerequisites, are harnessed to the development of protection kits. For example, the Kalashnikov concern, like Sberbank, apparently plans to knit socks and produce ice cream.
This is not how the list of contractors should look if you need a result, not a cut.

[S. Smirnov]

The new equipment should in the future replace the third-generation equipment "Sotnik", which, in turn, will replace the second-generation equipment "Ratnik"

Maybe then skip the 3rd generation? And after the 2nd generation "Warrior", go straight to the 4th?

[Horon]

Maybe then skip the 3rd generation? And after the 2nd generation "Warrior", go straight to the 4th?

On the 4th generation, even the concept does not exist yet, how are you going to switch to it? To determine the direction where to go and they are going to conduct research. This is work for the next decades, are you going to operate the second generation for 20-30 years, waiting for the 4th generation to pass all the stages and begin its mass production?

[AlexeyEg]

Now, instead of armored ceramics ... and titanium alloy, high-modulus polyethylene will go .. That would be easier to carry on yourself.

[English tarantas]

Yeah, and catch through from modern bullets. Still, ceramics are still more relevant.

[nikolai55soot]

27.10. 2014 suggested by the deputy. Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation G.A. Bulgakov D.V. ; General Director of NPO Special Materials Silnikov M.V. ; To the General Director of TsNIITOCHMASH Dmitry Semizorov - the technology of charging Ratnik, exoskeleton and others. I am sure for seven years we have not had a charger, so they sent or sold to their owners in the west.

[zwlad]

Rostekhraspil money chtol nowhere to go?
Interestingly, is the gas mask built into the helmet or should it be worn over it?

[voronkov]

Our Kulibins dispersed in earnest in the development of equipment for Russian soldiers, and that's great! There are not many of us left and every soldier counts ... There are very few infa, but I can sense work and supplies to the troops too .. The main thing is not to be too fond of electronics, namely protection and convenience in combat and survival to the maximum .. If the mess begins , it is difficult for our soldiers to survive and follow orders You can't sew a fighting spirit into your equipment, but you need to defend your Fatherland!

[Mylenef]

How to look under your feet in this "hat"?
In an ordinary motorcycle helmet, the vertical view will be more

[Keer]

After the Centurion, Tysyatsky should go, and then the Voivode with a boyar hat and fur sleeves to the floor.

[English tarantas]

You look after 1,5 thousand years before the princes will return.

[Togilen]

How long can you talk about this topic? It is already clearly stated that we have ARAMID (Ruslan, Armalon), which consists of 7-8 substances (monomers, softeners, composition of the precipitation bath, polycondensation activators) - we produce TWA - softener M-2 (Novocheb Khimprom) and terephthaloyl chloride (OJSC BSK "). And a pilot plant with a capacity of 1000-2000 tons / year does not function thanks to some comrades from large companies, it can be rebuilt but under real need (the market will show, in this case, orders from the Ministry of Defense, space and aviation), but no, in fact, there are not even any conversations. But this Tomsk UHMWPE in Tver at VNIISV remained 40 tons and that's it.
There is also no need to talk about electronic filling, ceramics, if we ONLY RECENTLY managed to master matrices for TVCV. Well, then, it remains only as in the song:
"Не надо печалиться, вся жизнь впереди,
All life is ahead, hope and wait ...... "

[Andrey.AN]

I honestly do not like it in the presented version, the inclination was taken away, such a dull glass will collect all precipitation with interference.