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"If Turkey intervenes in Kashmir, we will send ships to the Aegean Sea" - at a seminar at the Indian Military Academy

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India is reacting tough to the news that Turkey is ready to support Pakistan in the Kashmir issue. At the same time, the Indian press notes that there is evidence that Turkey is already providing some support to illegal armed groups in Kashmir.


The statement is given by the retired Major General of the Indian Armed Forces Gagan Bakshi, who at one time commanded a battalion (being in a different rank) during the Kargil War (the 1999 armed conflict between India and Pakistan).

A retired general at a seminar at the Indian Military Academy:

If Turkey intervenes in Kashmir, we will send our ships to the Aegean Sea.

It is noted that the dispatch of Turkish mercenaries to the borders of India causes deep concern in New Delhi. At the same time, India is celebrating the "dangerous game started by Ankara." In particular, it is said that Turkey has not previously opposed India militarily, and the new initiatives of the Turkish authorities are a "dangerous precedent."

Gagan Bakshi:

Our warships in the Aegean Sea could take part in joint exercises with the Greek Navy, which made it possible to increase coordination in military interaction with Athens. And then the Greek ships would be worth inviting for exercises in the Indian Ocean.

New Delhi is studying the option proposed by General Bakshi. In particular, he noted at the military academy that this could well serve as a signal for Turkey:

You don't need to cross the red lines in a relationship. This is a dangerous precedent from Turkey.
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  1. Borik
    Borik 29 January 2021 12: 23
    +18
    The Turkish sultan pokes his nose everywhere, no matter how he gets pinched somewhere.
    1. Cron
      Cron 29 January 2021 12: 38
      +11
      Quote: Borik
      The Turkish sultan pokes his nose everywhere, no matter how he gets pinched somewhere.

      He was pinched almost everywhere. From what he conceived, the real results are too meager, yet.
      Although, he needs to be given his due, with the resources that he has, he tried to do a lot, and even actually implemented something, he just crossed the road to too many, thereby affecting their interests.
      1. Anar
        Anar 29 January 2021 20: 25
        -6
        Why pinched? Pakistan has always said that the mountain is for Turkey. And Turkey has always said that the mountain is for Pakistan. And he climbs not because India is in Kashmir, and he does not care even though France will be there to him.
        Also Pakistan is a friend of China and Iran. And these are also strong regional powers. India is buried if it remains in a bad situation.
        A very powerful force is being formed here ...
        1. Cron
          Cron 29 January 2021 22: 25
          0
          Quote: Anar
          Why pinched? Pakistan has always said that the mountain is for Turkey.

          I don't mean it at all
        2. Fmax
          Fmax 29 January 2021 22: 42
          +4
          If India shoves a couple of brahmos across Turkey, then Pakistan will only shout and wave its hands. And NATO may shake a finger, and then if it considers that a reaction in the press is needed, because the defense order from India is more interesting to the Americans than a strong and whole Turkey.
    2. Alex777
      Alex777 29 January 2021 12: 41
      +13
      Erdogan offers help to Pakistan for an understandable reason - he wants to earn an atomic bomb. Very much.
      He has nowhere else to ask her. hi
      Again, Pakistani pilots fly in his Air Force.
    3. credo
      credo 29 January 2021 13: 10
      +6
      Quote: Borik
      The Turkish sultan pokes his nose everywhere, no matter how he gets pinched somewhere.

      It seems to me that Turkey is deliberately pushed towards the east and behind these "pushers" the Anglo-Saxon face is clearly traced.
      The Hindus need to work more directly with the Turks, and not fly in the clouds with ridiculous threats. Swimming with the Greeks in the Mediterranean Sea is certainly interesting and perhaps even informative, but too small for a country that is trying to be something more than a regional power.
      1. Dodikson
        Dodikson 29 January 2021 13: 50
        +9
        Indians need to work not with Turks, but with Kurds, then the Sultan's constipation will quickly pass.
        1. credo
          credo 29 January 2021 13: 56
          0
          Quote: Dodikson
          Indians need to work not with Turks, but with Kurds, then the Sultan's constipation will quickly pass.

          What for? Well, perhaps only in order to make additional enemies in the person of Iran, Iraq and Syria. Dubious pleasure.
          1. Dodikson
            Dodikson 29 January 2021 14: 10
            +3
            you can work with the Kurds pointwise.
  2. Doccor18
    Doccor18 29 January 2021 12: 29
    +5
    ..that Turkey is ready to support Pakistan in the Kashmir issue ..

    Having very limited capabilities of its military-industrial complex, Turkey is clearly going too far ...
    So you can tear the navel ...
    "Sultan" leads his "empire" downhill ...
  3. Israel
    Israel 29 January 2021 12: 33
    +4
    Well, the sultan still lacks the Kashmir conflict.
    1. U-58
      U-58 29 January 2021 12: 39
      +10
      What's this! Tomorrow he will defend Taiwan from China and will cover South Korea from Kim with his chest.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 29 January 2021 14: 33
        0
        Quote: U-58
        What's this! Tomorrow he will defend Taiwan from China and will cover South Korea from Kim with his chest.

        Correctly say -
        With whom you lead - from that you will gain.

        The Turks learned bad things from America ... That plug is in every barrel, there is shit with spoons - and that will fit with its ladle. And the Turks go there too. It's good that so far, at least not on such a scale.
        They said to the Turks -
        Don't mess with this Proshkin! He will teach you bad things!
      2. alaarsen
        alaarsen 29 January 2021 14: 48
        +4
        amendment - not Taiwan, but the Uyghurs ..
        1. U-58
          U-58 29 January 2021 16: 29
          +2
          Exactly! Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!
          The greatest Turan will create.
  4. Mamuka Petrovich
    Mamuka Petrovich 29 January 2021 12: 35
    +4
    If Turkey intervenes in Kashmir, we will send our ships to the Aegean Sea.

    Turkey, tie up your nightmare Kashmir stop
  5. svp67
    svp67 29 January 2021 12: 40
    +7
    If this is true, then Erdogan has clearly crossed all the borders ... he still lacked a conflict with India.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 29 January 2021 12: 49
      +7
      Quote: svp67
      If this is true, then Erdogan has clearly crossed all the borders ... he still lacked a conflict with India.

      how can you not remember Vladimir Vysotsky - "You Zin run up against rudeness, you will offend everything!"
    2. Runway
      Runway 29 January 2021 13: 09
      0
      Chain: Turks-paki (Afghan horsemen) - Chinese. Quite badly Recep insures himself.
      Were they not allowed into the EU? Let's knock on another door. laughing
  6. certero
    certero 29 January 2021 12: 41
    +5
    It's just that Erdogan is trying to make Turkey not a regional but a world power. but purely objectively, Turkey does not have a role to play, it simply does not pull on its economic capabilities
  7. Sergey39
    Sergey39 29 January 2021 12: 44
    +4
    Geopolitical games do not lead to good. Erdogan is asking for trouble with all his might.
  8. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 29 January 2021 12: 46
    +5
    In particular, it is said that Turkey has not previously opposed India militarily, and the new initiatives of the Turkish authorities are a "dangerous precedent."

    "Our shot (sultan), ripe everywhere."
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 January 2021 12: 48
    +7
    Turkey ready to support Pakistan on Kashmir issue
    Ay yes Erdogan. Syria, Libya, Azerbaijan are not enough, we still need to get into the Indian-Pakistani territorial graters. And this is all against the background of disagreements with the United States and Europe. Indeed, Turkish trousers are so wide that you are not afraid to tear them.
  10. Pavlos Melas
    Pavlos Melas 29 January 2021 12: 49
    +7
    Of course, we are unlikely to see ships of India in the Aegean Sea. Former generals are needed to intimidate and voice possible retaliatory measures. But the state is not responsible for it. In general, the Idus sent a message to the Sultan laughing
  11. MstislavHrabr
    MstislavHrabr 29 January 2021 12: 52
    -4
    Erdogan has a huge amount of "hot stuff" (refugees, militants, Islamists). And he has little choice. Either this "material" will be used by him, or it will be used against Erdogan and Turkey ... Once Russia, using similar tactics (directing the Cossacks and foreigners), gained control over Siberia and other "marginal lands". Now Erdogan is trying to follow this path. What will come of this we will see ...
  12. Poetry
    Poetry 29 January 2021 12: 55
    +6
    It remains only to be surprised at Erdogan's many-handedness. But it seems that his head does not always keep up with his hands.
  13. cniza
    cniza 29 January 2021 12: 57
    +2
    Our warships in the Aegean Sea could take part in joint exercises with the Greek Navy, which made it possible to increase coordination in military interaction with Athens. And then the Greek ships would be worth inviting for exercises in the Indian Ocean.


    Erdogan is itching to ...
  14. Humpty
    Humpty 29 January 2021 12: 57
    +2
    In addition to the desire to obtain nuclear technology, one more factor is possible. Erdogan's rump have no experience of being in large mountains. Pakistan has plenty of its own frostbitten heads. So the militants can be trained for another region, much closer to Turkey.
  15. Ros 56
    Ros 56 29 January 2021 13: 06
    +1
    Erdogan that the laurels of Alexander the Great do not give rest? He sticks his nose everywhere. Let him study Russian folklore, there is a lot there for all sorts of occasions.
  16. igorra
    igorra 29 January 2021 13: 20
    +4
    Yes, it is rightly said - you want to punish, deprived of the mind. Erdogan, with his cup of patience, has already run around all his neighbors, reached further ...
  17. APASUS
    APASUS 29 January 2021 13: 39
    +4
    Is Turkey starting to acquire higher rank enemies? It can end very badly
  18. askort154
    askort154 29 January 2021 13: 41
    +4
    Erdogan has been a religious fanatic since childhood. Ataturk brought Turkey to the secular European world. Erdogan, on the contrary, returned Turkey to the rigid Islamic faith. His ambitions are endless. Revive the Ottoman Empire in any way, including military intervention. And for now, he succeeds. He decided to unite all Muslim countries, becoming their leader. And this is a belt from BV to Pakistan. It is pushed and promoted by England (USA). It will be a radical Muslim stratum between Russia, China, and India controlled by them. The Anglo-Saxons assign him the role of "Fuhrer of Islam", with unlimited power, primarily against Russia and China. Erdogan's vanity is satisfied. He no longer has any claims, either against the EU or the United States. He is ready to rule the entire Muslim world, knowing that NATO is behind him. Erdogan showed everyone that he has no brakes. It cannot be ruled out that he will bring the world no less grief than Hitler, who was also supervised by the British.
    1. U-58
      U-58 29 January 2021 16: 34
      0
      But there are also the Saudis ...
      They are also not the last pawn in the game "for the leader of the Mohammedans".
      And how they "love" Erdogan! ...
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 30 January 2021 00: 12
      0
      Indonesia, Pakistan, Egypt, Bangladesh are unlikely to agree to Turkey's leadership. Each of these countries has a larger population than Turkey. And the rich KSA will also disagree. Shiite Iran also clearly will not perceive Turkey's leadership.
  19. raki-uzo
    raki-uzo 29 January 2021 13: 42
    -1
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/anzacday/galleries/the-indian-army-at-gallipoli
    Yes, they were already there with their masters. Many of them did not return.
  20. S. Smirnov
    S. Smirnov 29 January 2021 13: 58
    -5
    Turkey already provides some support to illegal armed groups in Kashmir

    Unlike the already belligerent Turkey, Indian ships are unlikely to participate in hostilities. This means that they will not stop Turkey. The Hindus have to answer elsewhere.
  21. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 29 January 2021 14: 03
    -3
    Quote: Borik
    The Turkish sultan pokes his nose everywhere, no matter how he gets pinched somewhere.

    The Turkish sultan is worried about the interests of his country, the "Unemployment Insurance Fund" paid $ 5,1 billion in monthly benefits to approximately 5 million employees laid off at enterprises affected by the crisis.
  22. Jaromir
    Jaromir 29 January 2021 14: 04
    +1
    Turkey ready to support Pakistan on Kashmir issue

    Erdogan strides widely ... Climbs everywhere. Turkey made many enemies under Erdogan ... It's time to put Turkey in its place.
  23. Cowbra
    Cowbra 29 January 2021 14: 11
    0
    ... and jump into a war with NATO if you don't coordinate with Greece first. Moreover. The can can now make a cunning move - to negotiate with Erdogan in order to provoke you for sure. Solid pluses:
    * Erdogan - expansion of influence in the zone of his interests, development of the idea of ​​Pan-Turkism.
    * Restoring relations with the US, EU and NATO
    Bidonu:
    * The very necessary "small victorious" war. and all around for the truth - let us stop the aggressor and defend the NATO country !!! And immediately forgotten were the stolen elections, the killer vaccine, the economic downturn, internal unrest ...
    * Restoring relations with NATO, where they are almost sent directly
    * Restoration of the prestige of the American army, which has recently been scooping up with a shovel not even from the Iranian army, but from some poor, unsupported gangs in Afghanistan, who have won 80% of the country from the exceptional.
    In short, they were epic, but fools must be taught
  24. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 29 January 2021 14: 13
    -4
    Quote: askort154
    Erdogan has been a religious fanatic since childhood. Ataturk brought Turkey to the secular European world. Erdogan, on the contrary, returned Turkey to the rigid Islamic faith. His ambitions are endless. Revive the Ottoman Empire in any way, including military intervention. And for now, he succeeds. He decided to unite all Muslim countries, becoming their leader. And this is a belt from BV to Pakistan. It is pushed and promoted by England (USA). It will be a radical Muslim stratum between Russia, China, and India controlled by them. The Anglo-Saxons assign him the role of "Fuhrer of Islam", with unlimited power, primarily against Russia and China. Erdogan's vanity is satisfied. He no longer has any claims, either against the EU or the United States. He is ready to rule the entire Muslim world, knowing that NATO is behind him. Erdogan showed everyone that he has no brakes. It cannot be ruled out that he will bring the world no less grief than Hitler, who was also supervised by the British.

    Where are some radicals in modern Turkey? Erdogan, although an Islamist, is at the same time fully and unconditionally subscribed to Pan-Turkism, which means he is under the complete control of the forces that created this doctrine before modern Turkey emerged. If some political force controls the key doctrine of a certain state, it controls that state itself.
  25. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 29 January 2021 14: 14
    0
    that Turkey is already providing some support to illegal armed groups in Kashmir.
    He has 30 years of experience in such matters. It's a good thing to send ships to Turkey's side, but what can Greece do in the Indian Ocean? She has no problems there. request
  26. kriten
    kriten 29 January 2021 14: 15
    0
    Maybe at least someone will put the Turkish pasha in place. It's amazing how 3 wars didn't ruin the economy. Or victories about which they trumpet, but which were not inspired by the Turks to tighten their belts ???
  27. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 29 January 2021 14: 25
    -1
    Well, if they shoot like that, then everything is for Erdogan: wassat
    1. safar gafarov
      safar gafarov 30 January 2021 09: 43
      0
      by the way, they hit it for sure and the first time they hit it, you can't look without a smile
    2. GKA72
      GKA72 31 January 2021 19: 42
      0
      laughter laughter, and in hand-to-hand combat, judging by the losses, the Indians piled on the Chinese.
  28. Misak Hananyan
    Misak Hananyan 29 January 2021 14: 38
    0
    Nothing changed.
  29. Scharnhorst
    Scharnhorst 29 January 2021 14: 42
    +2
    It is useful to read this news to our internal opponents of the development of the fleet with an emphasis on the land borders of Russia, and to opponents of the development of the fleet in the distant sea zone (read in the world ocean). It would seem where is Turkey and where is Kashmir !? Or India and the Aegean Sea ...
  30. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 29 January 2021 15: 42
    0
    Quote: Misak Hananyan
    Nothing changed.

    In 1914, Enver advocated a military alliance between Turkey and Germany and contributed to the involvement of Turkey in the First World War. During the war, he held the highest military post of deputy commander-in-chief, although formally the sultan was listed as commander-in-chief. During the battle of Sarikamish (Turkish Sarıkamış Harekâtı), in Western literature it is known as the Enver offensive, in the period December 9 (22), 1914 - January 5 (18) 1915, the troops of Enver Pasha were utterly defeated by the Russian army. laughing In 1914-1917, the Bolsheviks - in accordance with the slogan "Defeat their government in the war" - tacitly supported the pan-Turkist political project "Turan Yolu" (Road to Turan) - the project of Enver Pasha, Talaat Pasha, Nazim Bey and Ahmed Bey Agaeva. The ultimate goal of the pan-Turkists was to convince the Turkic-speaking population of the Caucasus, Iran, Crimea, the Volga region and Turkestan to secede from Russia or Iran and join the new mega-power Turan. In 1919, Enver met in Germany with the communist Karl Radek, who represented Soviet Russia. He decided to enter into direct, official contact with the Russian Bolsheviks and use the channels of communication between the German military circles and the Bolsheviks in order to organize and lead the struggle against Great Britain in Central Asia. Where is he the enemy of Russia? Enver Pasha was killed on August 4, 1922 in a battle with units of the Red Army in the village of Chagan, 25 km from the city of Baldzhuan on the territory of the Bukhara state (today the territory of Tajikistan). Chekist Georgy Agabekov in his memoirs describes an operation to find the whereabouts of Enver Pasha (Agabekov and his partner under the guise of merchants infiltrated the local population and, with the help of bribery, found out the location of Enver Pasha's headquarters) and quotes the report of the commander of the equestrian battalion who attacked Enver Pasha's headquarters: The headquarters of the Basmachi, led by Enver Pasha, rushed into the mountains, but stumbling upon a squadron sent to bypass, took up the battle. As a result of the battle, the enemy headquarters was destroyed. Only three managed to escape. 28 corpses remained at the battle site. Among them, Enver Pasha was also identified. His head and part of his body were blown off with a blow. The Koran was found next to him. "

    Enver Pasha's awards: Ottoman Empire: Order of the Medjidie 1st class Order of the Medjidie 3rd class Order of the Osmaniye 1st class (March 24, 1915) Order of the Osmaniye 3rd class Military medal (summer 1915) German Empire (Kingdom of Prussia): Order "Pour le Mérite" (23 August 1915) Oak leaves to the order "Pour le Mérite" (10 January 1915) Iron Cross 1st Class (26 February 1915) Iron Cross 2nd Class Chief of the Guards Fusilier Regiment (13 September 1916 ) Austria-Hungary: Military Merit Cross 1st Class
  31. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 January 2021 08: 37
    -3
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Quote: askort154
    Erdogan has been a religious fanatic since childhood. Ataturk brought Turkey to the secular European world. Erdogan, on the contrary, returned Turkey to the rigid Islamic faith. His ambitions are endless. Revive the Ottoman Empire in any way, including military intervention. And for now, he succeeds. He decided to unite all Muslim countries, becoming their leader. And this is a belt from BV to Pakistan. It is pushed and promoted by England (USA). It will be a radical Muslim stratum between Russia, China, and India controlled by them. The Anglo-Saxons assign him the role of "Fuhrer of Islam", with unlimited power, primarily against Russia and China. Erdogan's vanity is satisfied. He no longer has any claims, either against the EU or the United States. He is ready to rule the entire Muslim world, knowing that NATO is behind him. Erdogan showed everyone that he has no brakes. It cannot be ruled out that he will bring the world no less grief than Hitler, who was also supervised by the British.

    Where are some radicals in modern Turkey? Erdogan, although an Islamist, is at the same time fully and unconditionally subscribed to Pan-Turkism, which means he is under the complete control of the forces that created this doctrine before modern Turkey emerged. If some political force controls the key doctrine of a certain state, it controls that state itself.

    Dull and Stupid as traffic jams "common people" that is, misanthropists are striving for world domination.
  32. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 January 2021 09: 20
    -4
    Long live the Turkish Republic! laughing This is how they will march in Athens, Sofia, and Berlin.
    1. GKA72
      GKA72 31 January 2021 19: 54
      0
      did not impress. As it is not military, more like folk dances. But the Turkish fleet cannot be discounted.
  33. safar gafarov
    safar gafarov 30 January 2021 09: 37
    0
    will send ships to the Aegean Sea so that the crews in the stops sang and dance popular tunes from Bollywood musicals. funny. but at least the Greeks will register their entire fleet in the Indian Ocean for the Turks even better
  34. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 January 2021 16: 52
    0
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Long live the Turkish Republic! laughing This is how they will march in Athens, Sofia, and Berlin.

    Do you have doubts about minus? laughing Germany is home to 5 million Turks, which is 5% of the country's population. laughing Which side will they shoot and who will cut their heads laughing
  35. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 January 2021 17: 08
    0
    laughing
    Last Sunday, the Turkish diaspora in Europe shocked the European political community. She voted in favor of a draft amendment to the Turkish Constitution, which, according to Europeans, leads to the usurpation of power and the flourishing of authoritarianism. For example, in Germany, voters who came to the ballot boxes in 12 Turkish consulates gave President Erdogan 63,2% of their votes, which is significantly more than in Turkey itself. On the posters of the German Turks, the slogan "Who are we again?" The same picture was observed in other European capitals. In the Netherlands, 71% of the referendum voted in favor of the constitutional amendments, and it turned out that the good ideas of Europeans that they had taught Turks to value democracy were just an illusion. Moreover, the Turks feel like there is NO ONE in Europe, and Erdogan's nationalist rhetoric falls on fertile ground. And the growth of his influence in the world, the European Turks associate with the hope of becoming SOMETHING. laughing
    1. GKA72
      GKA72 31 January 2021 20: 01
      0
      well, then let Europe pray to Russian migrants, in Germany there were 2017 ml of them in 1.4. Turks at the same time were 2.8 ml.
  36. Yuriy71
    Yuriy71 30 January 2021 17: 10
    -1
    It is high time for Ankara to click on the nose, but - there is no one !!! Russia plays with the Turks in the tomato-gas-nuclear-S-400-tourist-friendly games! forgetting that Ankara is always !!! at all times Acted AGAINST Russia !!! And now, too, they are not Friends at all, but Shit everywhere and at the first opportunity !!!
  37. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 January 2021 17: 22
    -2
    Quote: Yuriy71
    It is high time for Ankara to click on the nose, but - there is no one !!! Russia plays with the Turks in the tomato-gas-nuclear-S-400-tourist-friendly games! forgetting that Ankara is always !!! at all times Acted AGAINST Russia !!! And now, too, they are not Friends at all, but Shit everywhere and at the first opportunity !!!

    Where are the statements of the officials of the Turkish Republic who declared Russia an enemy? laughing
  38. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 31 January 2021 20: 03
    -1
    Quote: GKA72
    did not impress. As it is not military, more like folk dances. But the Turkish fleet cannot be discounted.

    And they always entered the conquered city like that. What did the Turks do to Turkishize foreigners:

    1.With the numerical domination of the Turks, small peoples assimilated by themselves, as happened with the clans of the Mongols
    2. Numerous peoples, such as the Iranians in Central Asia, were exterminated to a safe level and forced out to unfavorable places of residence, which deprived the conquered of the economic basis, forcing them to submit.
    3. Muslim Turks demanded acceptance of Islam, imposing repressive tax and legal regulations for non-Muslims. However, the Yakuts, Gagauz, Tuvinians and Chuvash retained their traditional beliefs, as they lived on the outskirts of Turkish possessions.
    4. The names of cities, rivers and countries were renamed in the Turkish manner: Prussa became Bursa, Nikeya-Iznik, Nicomedia-Izmit, Karmrik - Kyzylcha
    5. In many countries, for example in Armenia and Bulgaria, the Turks translated local names into Turkish and demanded that all important objects be renamed.
    6. Sultans, viziers, wealthy merchants kept large harems, where wives of different tribes were forced to communicate with each other in Turkish, and their children generally knew only this language.
    7.Turks and Muslims received huge tax breaks and this strongly stimulated the foreign population to quickly switch to the Turkish order. Almost all coastal Turkey is the former Byzantines who learned the new rules.
    8. The tax on boys for the non-Turkish population, assumed that they would grow up at court and be 100% Turkish in language and culture.
    9. Hundreds of thousands of men were delivered to the vilayets and became zealous Turks. -What did the Turks achieve in the end?
    A significant part of the population of Greece, the countries of the former Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Romania and Moldova is of Turkish ethnic origin, and even more are Muslims and would have been ideally assimilated citizens during the Ottoman era.

    On the other hand, a clear attack on the history and culture of peoples caused fierce resistance, uprisings, which shook the empire and led to its fall in the end. Whether Armenians, Greeks or Bulgarians became Turks - of course not, but they got very bad relations
    1. GKA72
      GKA72 31 January 2021 23: 06
      0
      on the 3rd point I do not quite agree. Despite additional taxes in the middle of the 17th century, Jews massively left for the Ottoman Empire. I cannot judge, but it seems to me that taxes were not repressive, they were taken on a massive scale. And at different times, depending on the ruler and the economic situation, there could be persecutions or not.
  39. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 31 January 2021 20: 13
    -2
    Quote: GKA72
    well, then let Europe pray to Russian migrants, in Germany there were 2017 ml of them in 1.4. Turks at the same time were 2.8 ml.


    But you must admit, it's fun when an Effropean in olfactory trousers declares that Russia has lost them. laughing
  40. GKA72
    GKA72 31 January 2021 21: 43
    0
    [quote = GKA72] laughter laughter, but in hand-to-hand combat, judging by the losses, the Indians piled on the Chinese.