Military Review

Litmus paper persistence of the Russian Federation

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The most talked about episode of the events of January 23 is the one where the St. Petersburg policemen were leading the detainee, and one of them kicked the woman who had pounced on them.


The woman was in the hospital just in case, and a policeman visited her with an apology and flowers. (Personally, I am sure that he was sent there by the worn out authorities). She first announced her Orthodox position. But then, perhaps fueled by the professionals of the colored revolutions, she filed a lawsuit against the policeman in the Investigative Committee. (By the way: what I still despise the democrats for is that they, unlike decent people, do not protect women and children, but hide behind them).

If a man had attacked a policeman, the incident would not have attracted any attention. But the woman changed everything.

This suggests that the tolerance that we laugh at, observing it in America and Europe, has already penetrated into our society and is beginning to corrupt us. After all, no one would have allowed the thought of condescension to Tonka the machine-gunner because she is a woman. And not only during the war or immediately after its end, but also much later until the very death of the USSR.

And now we have already come to terms with the innermost value of a democratic regime: in a democracy, everyone is equal, but some are more equal. And the most savvy enough to portray themselves as weak or offended, and the law is no longer written for you: you can already ram the people around or the state structures yourself. Here lies the most serious threat to any state and its citizens, which can lead to their death.

But we - ordinary residents - are interested not only in this fact itself, but also in its upcoming denouement, since the future of our country and ourselves directly depends on it.

There are two possible poles in resolving this conflict:

1. State structures view this case as an attack on a government official: the actions of the police officer are recognized as correct, and the attacker is condemned to the fullest extent of the Law.

2. The state structures convict the police officer who stopped the offender of the wrong gender and condemn him, and the woman is apologized further.

In the first case, the state will demonstrate firmness in upholding law and order and will send a signal to its citizens and the whole world that it will fight for its existence to the end.

In the second case, there will be a signal that circles aiming at another surrender of Russia to the "civilized community" have gained the upper hand in the power structures of the state.

In this case, enemies from all sides will pounce on the country with renewed vigor, who will again be supported by the “fifth column,” counting on the mercy of the western masters for the services rendered.

At the same time, the current "seven-bankers" do not want to remember all the Gusinsky, Smolensk, Berezovsky and others who dreamed of remaining billionaires in the "free world." But this is their problem.

Our trouble is that then it will be much worse for us.

As it was written in the quotation book of the Great Helmsman:

Dig holes, store grain.

In the meantime, we will observe the development of this process.
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  1. sergo1914
    sergo1914 30 January 2021 15: 05
    -10%
    Auntie, to put it mildly, weird. But even with a foot in this situation, it is not comme il faut to buy goods.
    1. Mikhail m
      Mikhail m 30 January 2021 15: 14
      +49
      Permissible self-defense is also not comme il faut. When the attacker, having received a pumpkin, runs to court, and the victim of the attack is imprisoned. Do not meddle with a representative of the authorities, and you will not be rewarded as you deserve.
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 15: 34
        -28%
        Quote: Mikhail M
        Permissible self-defense is also not comme il faut. When the attacker, having received a pumpkin, runs to court, and the victim of the attack is imprisoned. Do not meddle with a representative of the authorities, and you will not be rewarded as you deserve.


        Poor policeman, how bravely he defended himself. Barely fought back, sick.
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 30 January 2021 16: 34
          +12
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Poor policeman, how bravely he defended himself. Barely fought back, sick.

          And if this woman specifically wanted to arrange a provocation and was preparing something (acid, for example) to splash in the face of either law enforcement officers or a detainee?
          Somehow suspiciously she glances at her filming before the start of the provocation - I got the impression that it was a homework in which her accomplice participated, which is why everything immediately started spinning.
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 16: 41
            -15%
            Quote: ccsr
            And if this woman specifically wanted to arrange a provocation ...

            If a grandmother had a male genital organ, she would be a grandfather. She tried to do something to the National Guard?
            Quote: ccsr
            Somehow suspiciously she glances at her filming before the start of the provocation - I got the impression that it was a homework in which her accomplice participated, which is why everything immediately started spinning.

            And the National Guard is not her accomplice by any chance? Because it was his actions that caused such a wide response. Personally, I would not have raised a hand on her, in an extreme case, he could simply push her out of his way, there were three of them.
            1. ccsr
              ccsr 30 January 2021 16: 49
              +28
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              If a grandmother had a male genital organ, she would be a grandfather. She tried to do something to the National Guard?

              In fact, inaction in places of mass unrest can result in even greater human casualties, if only not to suppress any opposition to law enforcement agencies. You will find this in any specialized textbook if you wish. Therefore, the guardsman acted on the machine - an obstacle appeared, it must be removed. Whether it was necessary to kick it is a subject of internal investigation, but not public discussion, because you are not personally responsible for the life of this fighter. And he really risks his life - the example of the United States to help you.
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              in extreme cases, he could simply push her out of his way, there were three of them.

              On the couch it is easy to argue what you would do, but he did not have time to reason. By the way, explain why the woman stood on the sidewalk and then suddenly jumped out onto the road? Do you also make such jumps in everyday life? How often do you perform such a trick?
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 16: 56
                -4
                Quote: ccsr
                On the couch it is easy to argue what you would do, but he did not have time to reason.

                At one time, I found an opportunity to think about what can and cannot be done. Otherwise they would have been imprisoned or killed. The policeman violated several articles of the "Police Law".
                http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_110165/b0e7a72817927f6520504c25498b9f687209dfee/
                And the law should be the same for everyone, if you break it, answer according to the law. Or do you disagree?
                1. ccsr
                  ccsr 30 January 2021 17: 03
                  +10
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  The policeman violated several articles of the "Police Law".

                  I would like to know which ones. But besides the laws, there are also instructions according to which they act in real situations. Moreover, there is also a briefing before taking over the duty. And the last thing - a person could have a nervous breakdown, and he needs to be examined if nothing of the kind has been noticed with him before.
                  In general, there is no need to engage in casuistry - the situation was non-standard, the reaction of the snotty Russian Guard was not entirely adequate, and everything else was inflated for the sake of money.
                  For the criterion, let's just compare what would happen to a National Guard in the Netherlands, USA or France in similar situations, and all the pathos of our accusers will disappear.
                  1. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 17: 13
                    -9
                    Quote: ccsr
                    The policeman violated several articles of the "Police Law".

                    I would like to know which ones.

                    Article 19. Procedure for the use of physical force, special means and firearms
                    item 1, item 3, item 4. It's minimum.
                    Described, one article, several points.
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 30 January 2021 20: 34
                      +17
                      Quote: Mikhail M
                      Do not meddle with a representative of the authorities, and you will not be rewarded as you deserve.

                      Putin's electoral confidant, former coronavirus headquarters spokesman, doctor and TV presenter Alexander Myasnikov, commented on the incident during a rally in St. Petersburg when a policeman kicked a woman in the stomach.
                      “The guy is on duty, there is a" kneading ", they are leading the detainee, then someone rushes under his feet shouting" for what ?! " This is not a Woman for him at this moment, it is an object that prevents the fulfillment of his task. Maybe spray with a can, or maybe stick with an awl! He has a reflex developed over years of training. Women - there, in a peaceful life, here everyone who interferes with the police from the tasks assigned is a potential enemy, "Dr. Myasnikov wrote in his Telegram channel on January 25
                      See in detail - "" Demolished by a boot "turned out to be a provocateur and demands the release of all" political prisoners "- https://aftershock.news/?q=node/942304&full

                      Although Myasnikov's position on this issue is simple and understandable to many, public opinion was still divided. And all would be nothing.
                      Only now the "Orthodox" Margarita Yudina, which she considers herself to be, after a couple of days, this suddenly allegedly changed her attitude to what happened and issued a new concept of forgiveness with the condition to release Navalny and all his gang.
                      1. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 20: 40
                        -8
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Putin's confidant in the elections, former representative of the headquarters for coronavirus, doctor and TV presenter Alexander Myasnikov

                        Do you think his titles justify police breaking the law?
                      2. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 30 January 2021 20: 46
                        +24
                        Quote: sergo1914
                        Auntie, to put it mildly, weird. But even with a foot in this situation, it is not comme il faut to buy goods.

                        Rita Yudina, 54, knocked down by a police boot, arrived at the rally on January 23 in St. Petersburg. specially from Luga. The media write a lot and different things about her and at the same time pay attention to the fact that not all ends meet in her stories.

                        On the one hand, Yudina claims that she comes from a family of dissidents since 1917.
                        On the other hand, it is known that in 2011-2017 Yudina and her children lived in Germany, there Yudina, according to her, earned by translations. Yudina, according to her, by her great-grandmother-Swiss, has German roots, so she knows German. Has no higher education.
                        Now unemployed Yudina lives on the outskirts of the regional center Luga in a village house with sons of 20 and 25 years old, a 15-year-old daughter, a dog and cats. Yudina's family is registered as socially disadvantaged. Yudina's children are from different fathers, where their fathers are now, they do not know, Yudina also refuses to tell. The eldest sons are chronic diabetics and do not work. The eldest son was previously under investigation in a criminal case. The family's budget, according to Yudina, is 10 thousand rubles a month, they eat mostly potatoes and bread in the family. The situation in the Yudins' house, judging by the photo, is simply miserable. But! At the same time, a teenage daughter has the opportunity to receive distance education at a Dutch college. Yudina says her daughter is taught in Holland for freebut this information needs to be verified.
                        More details: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/01/26/prava-yudinoy-kachayut-boris-vishnevskiy-i-igilovec-iz-novoy-gazety

                        Earlier, when Yudina was still in the hospital, she publicly stated that she had forgiven the policeman, under whose hot hand she accidentally fell during the riots in St. Petersburg, which were staged by the navalnists on January 23. But less than three days later, Yudina announced that she wanted this guardian of order to be in the dock.
                        Boris Vishnevsky, a deputy of the St. Petersburg Legislative Council from Yabloko, helped Yudina in drafting the claim and hiring lawyers. Denis Korotkov, a journalist from Novaya Gazeta, provides support to Yudina in the media. This is the same Korotkov whom the Federal News Agency (RIA FAN) demands to be punished as a war criminal for cooperation with ISIS. (prohibited in Russia).
                        Yudina explained the change in her decision to petition a police officer to the liberal media that she has a personal account of the entire "police repressive system" in Russia.
                        Yudina even delivered a public ultimatum: she will withdraw the lawsuit against the policeman if all political prisoners are released and pardoned in Russia... A political prisoner in the interpretation of the liberals is a broad concept, it includes national separatists, terrorists from organizations banned in Russia, saboteurs from Ukraine and the like.
                        More details: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/01/26/prava-yudinoy-kachayut-boris-vishnevskiy-i-igilovec-iz-novoy-gazety
                      3. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 20: 55
                        -15%
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Rita Yudina, 54, knocked down by a police boot ...

                        Everything that you have written has no meaning. One must be held accountable for breaking the law.
                      4. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 30 January 2021 21: 30
                        +10
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        Everything that you wrote has no meaning.

                        It’s your moaning about an idea colleague that doesn’t matter.
                      5. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 21: 39
                        -12%
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        It’s your moaning about an idea colleague that doesn’t matter.

                        Do you think that the police should be immune?
                      6. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 30 January 2021 21: 50
                        +13
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        Do you think the cops

                        have to do their job, and any statutes about warnings and so on are applied when there is an opportunity to act slowly.
                        During street riots, no one ever makes any warnings, unless only about the opening of fire to kill, so your screams about some unrespected law and your police past are nothing more than another "Crimean woman".
                      7. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 21: 57
                        -10%
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        have to do their job .....

                        And you did not answer the question
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        Do you think that the police should be immune?

                        Or can haste and fuss justify any wrongdoing? Are they imprisoned for exceeding self-defense? Something not particularly understandable, it was time to think or not. First of all, the proportionality of the use of violence is analyzed. Why do you think it should be different in relation to the police?
                      8. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 31 January 2021 06: 28
                        +3
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        Or can haste and fuss justify any wrongdoing?

                        Quote: Dart2027
                        have to do their job, and any statutes about warnings and so on are applied when there is an opportunity to act slowly.
                        During street riots, no one ever makes any warnings, unless only about opening fire to kill

                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        Are they imprisoned for exceeding self-defense? Something not particularly understandable, it was time to think or not.

                        It also happens, alas, but it has nothing to do with your colleague - for which I fought and ran into it.
                      9. Captain45
                        Captain45 31 January 2021 16: 22
                        +5
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        Or can haste and fuss justify any wrongdoing? Are they imprisoned for exceeding self-defense? Something not particularly understandable, it was time to think or not. First of all, the proportionality of the use of violence is analyzed. Why do you think it should be different in relation to the police?

                        Shota Rustaveli in his poem "The Knight in the Panther's Skin" said well: "Everyone imagines himself a strategist, seeing the battle from the side."
                        Clever on sofas .... 100500, but as a vigilante to attend such mass events or just as an attesting witness, you will, like Diogenes, run around with a lantern during the day, looking for a person.
                    2. saigon
                      saigon 31 January 2021 06: 46
                      0
                      Well, explain what prevented the character from thinking for half a second!
                      Okay, madam provocateur, let's take this and who then kicked her quickly to make a decision?
                      It is necessary to understand what the character did in this situation to undermine the image of the police where there is more than Madama.
                      Let's leave aside legally or not, he kicked and hit well (and hit in many ways)
                      From my experience in the army, I can say that a fighter is flying.
                      I created the picture, the wave has gone and it just won't end. something will be.
                    3. Dart2027
                      Dart2027 31 January 2021 07: 16
                      +6
                      Quote: saigon
                      Well, explain what prevented the character from thinking for half a second!

                      Here he has nothing to do, except to stop and start thinking "what kind of woman is she" and what to do with her.
                    4. Fan-fan
                      Fan-fan 31 January 2021 09: 36
                      -6
                      Think correctly: urine everyone indiscriminately, who turned up under the arm or under the leg. What's this? War with your people?
                    5. Narak-zempo
                      Narak-zempo 31 January 2021 11: 04
                      +5
                      Quote: Fan-Fan
                      Think correctly: urine everyone indiscriminately, who turned up under the arm or under the leg. What's this? War with your people?

                      Those who come out to the rallies of liberals are no longer the people.
                    6. aleksejkabanets
                      aleksejkabanets 31 January 2021 15: 26
                      -6
                      Quote: Narak-zempo
                      Those who come out to the rallies of liberals are no longer the people.

                      Jokes aside, the situation is actually funny. To put it simply, the liberalist Navalny is gathering rallies against the liberals in power. And these arguments of yours who are the people and who are not, they have nothing to do with reality.
                  2. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 31 January 2021 11: 56
                    +5
                    Quote: Fan-Fan
                    What's this? War with your people?

                    Not by the people, but by the enemies of the people.
                  3. Santa Fe
                    Santa Fe 31 January 2021 23: 10
                    +2
                    If this cop were your father, you would think differently

                    It's a just war
                  4. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 1 February 2021 20: 00
                    +8
                    Quote: Santa Fe
                    If this cop was your father

                    I would be proud of him.
                    Quote: Santa Fe
                    It's a just war

                    With traitors.
                2. SARANCHA1976
                  SARANCHA1976 1 February 2021 10: 50
                  +4
                  Well, hello, she's been going for 20 years
        2. sniperino
          sniperino 31 January 2021 06: 51
          +5
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Do you think that the police should be immune?
          Must be. For this there is a department of own security and a court. Neither you, nor AUE, nor the State Department are allowed to this.
        3. Fan-fan
          Fan-fan 31 January 2021 09: 39
          -6
          Your own safety, your own court. This should not be: the court and the law should be the same for all, these are the same elementary truths.
        4. sniperino
          sniperino 31 January 2021 10: 23
          +9
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          own court
          This is your own court, which has already condemned the police in absentia so that they are not ready to decisively suppress your attempts to arrange a Maidan here. It would seem that the incident did not add to the alcoholism of this lady any consequences dangerous to her health, but you, the bailiffs, here raised all this howl in pursuance of the decisions of your court.
        5. sniperino
          sniperino 31 January 2021 10: 55
          +11
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          court and law should be one for all, these are the same elementary truths
          China and North. I do not bring Korea, you can see for yourself.
        6. Dart2027
          Dart2027 31 January 2021 11: 57
          +5
          And we have some ridiculous fines and terms.
  2. Santa Fe
    Santa Fe 31 January 2021 23: 04
    +3
    I, as a native of a family of security officials, personally benefit from this position

    If something doesn't suit you, that's your problem.
  3. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 31 January 2021 23: 20
    -6
    Quote: Santa Fe
    I, as a native of a family of security officials, personally benefit from this position

    Great, it means "What about us?" you won't ask.
  4. Santa Fe
    Santa Fe 1 February 2021 00: 11
    +3
    War is business

    If the business is organized correctly, then the enemy bears the losses.
  5. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 1 February 2021 00: 47
    -9
    Quote: Santa Fe
    War is business

    If the business is organized correctly, then the enemy bears the losses.

    Are you going to wage war with your own people?
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  8. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 1 February 2021 10: 03
    -7
    Quote: Santa Fe
    In my understanding, people are those who have achieved something in life. For which power and state

    People like you - just living in Russia

    This is me with the understanding that we have two peoples in our country. Only one people will soon begin to rip off the heads of the second "people".
  9. Santa Fe
    Santa Fe 1 February 2021 10: 34
    +5
    They ate little porridge
    to fight with the professional military
  10. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 1 February 2021 12: 14
    -7
    Quote: Santa Fe
    They ate little porridge
    to fight with the professional military

    Wait and see. There are examples. However, you yourself will gnaw each other's throats. The same is full of such examples.
  11. Mechanic
    Mechanic 4 February 2021 08: 27
    -1
    Dreamed
  12. Mechanic
    Mechanic 4 February 2021 08: 27
    -1
    Oh, this is what you and your curators want
  13. Pilat2009
    Pilat2009 1 February 2021 13: 08
    +4
    Quote: Santa Fe
    In my understanding, people are those who have achieved something in life. For which power and state

    People like you - just living in Russia

    I can directly hear Chubais's words that it is enough to leave 10 million for the maintenance of the pipe and another million partaigenosse, which have achieved something in life to manage them. The thought immediately suggests itself, weren't the Bolsheviks right when they hung the same "achieved something" on the lanterns
  14. Mechanic
    Mechanic 4 February 2021 08: 31
    0
    In some ways, the Bolsheviks were right, the then elite spoke French and despised Russia and the common people. We looked like now towards London
  15. Mechanic
    Mechanic 4 February 2021 08: 26
    0
    Not with the people, but not with a large number of provocateurs
  16. Mechanic
    Mechanic 4 February 2021 08: 24
    0
    If auntie came out to play a revolutionary, let her be ready for such an attitude of the security officials. If you are not ready, let the family take care of it, everything is very sad there.
  17. Revival
    Revival 1 February 2021 04: 24
    +1
    And as I understand it, you and then for the "class-estate" approach "in general
  18. mole
    mole 30 January 2021 22: 26
    +5
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Quote: Tatiana
    Rita Yudina, 54, knocked down by a police boot ...

    Everything that you have written has no meaning. One must be held accountable for breaking the law.

    It is necessary to answer for violation of the law, but whether or not this violation was decided by the judge. You stated initially that there was a violation.
    In my subjective opinion, it smells more of a provocation. Recognize the policeman guilty, the rest will lose their "enthusiasm with passion". Eyes will dim. On the other hand, the "rebels" have a positive example, plus a little "propaganda from sent political workers" in the form of banknotes, etc. "prospects" for creating a just society, etc. will lead to the achievement not of legality and law and order, but to chaos and bacchanalia.
  19. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 22: 43
    -7
    Quote: Mole
    It is necessary to answer for violation of the law, but whether or not this violation was decided by the judge.

    Or the prosecutor's office, in this case.
    Quote: Mole
    You stated initially that there was a violation.

    But he violated the Police Law, it can be seen with the naked eye.
    Quote: Mole
    Recognize the policeman guilty, the rest will lose their "enthusiasm with passion".

    And there is no need for "enthusiasm with passion", it will very quickly lead to blood. Legality is needed.
    Quote: Mole
    On the other hand, the "rebels" have a positive example, plus a little "propaganda from sent political workers" in the form of banknotes, etc. "prospects" for creating a just society, etc. will lead to the achievement not of legality and law and order, but to chaos and bacchanalia.

    With this case, law enforcement officers are obviously losing position. We must somehow get out with the least losses for ourselves. We must act according to the law.
  20. mole
    mole 30 January 2021 22: 58
    +3
    1. Violated or not is not up to you to decide.
    2. Lack of "enthusiasm and passion" leads to a lack of desire to go to work and do your job. Worse there is no worker with a faded look. He's just serving his work hours. And to keep law and order! It's easier not to notice.
    3. Priorities are still more important !?
  21. Fan-fan
    Fan-fan 31 January 2021 09: 42
    -14%
    Worse no no worker with faded eyes
    Well, we already in our history saw the NKVD-Schnikov with burning eyes in 1937.
  22. Essex62
    Essex62 31 January 2021 13: 21
    +7
    Quote: Fan-Fan
    Worse no no worker with faded eyes
    Well, we already in our history saw the NKVD-Schnikov with burning eyes in 1937.

    And what were the clerks, at 37, doing wrong? They cleaned out the unfinished counter, incl. entrenched in the NKVD and the Red Army itself. How everything would turn in the Second World War, do not do it IVS and LPB is not known.
  23. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 31 January 2021 13: 36
    -3
    Quote: Essex62
    And what were the clerks, at 37, doing wrong? They cleaned out the unfinished counter, incl. entrenched in the NKVD and the Red Army itself. How everything would turn in the Second World War, do not do it IVS and LPB is not known.

    Apparently the author of the comment meant the actions of Yagoda and Yezhov (their "falcons"). You will not deny that they "overdone" a little?
  24. Essex62
    Essex62 31 January 2021 14: 44
    +9
    And I meant Yagoda himself and Yezhov. They did not overdo it, they tried to crush the party, and with a departure from the principles of socialism and Bolshevik consciousness. ... For which they themselves turned out to be enemies, like Bonaparte Tukhachevsky and his comrades. But the weeding was done efficiently.
    A rollback to the NEP, where will you go? To uproot the psychology of the baryzhy, even after the lapse of not small years of the country's life, the authorities still had that job. The roots remained.
  25. Mechanic
    Mechanic 4 February 2021 08: 41
    +1
    Yes, these "falcons" overdid it, but also tell them that they remained unpunished, well, Comrade. Beria strongly slowed down the repressive apparatus
  26. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 21: 18
    +8
    The present time proves that the country in 1937 did everything correctly, but not completely.
  27. Igoresha
    Igoresha 31 January 2021 21: 46
    -6
    entrenched in the NKVD and the Red Army itself.
    they still gave the German Communists in the Gestapo, yes, the creator of Katyusha and others like him slapped, real heroes
  28. Mechanic
    Mechanic 4 February 2021 08: 35
    0
    The fact that the betrayal of Tukhachevsky and others is proven and not disputed
  29. kakvastam
    kakvastam 31 January 2021 16: 37
    -2
    Yes, what are the burning eyes!
    Banal selfish interests (both employees and informers), as in France in 1793, as throughout medieval Europe during the witch hunt, as during the "witch hunt" throughout the modern world ...
    There were also enough blockheads, but without the "enthusiasm of the masses" they would not have turned around like that.
  30. mole
    mole 31 January 2021 18: 21
    +2
    Quote: kakvastam
    Yes, what are the burning eyes!
    Banal selfish interests (both employees and informers), as in France in 1793, as throughout medieval Europe during the witch hunt, as during the "witch hunt" throughout the modern world ...
    There were also enough blockheads, but without the "enthusiasm of the masses" they would not have turned around like that.

    You talk about self-interest from the standpoint of the present, in particular, your convenient worldview!
    Judge by the deeds by the reviews of contemporaries.
  31. Mechanic
    Mechanic 4 February 2021 08: 45
    0
    Common practice after revolutions. And it all ends with the usurper coming to power. As they say, what they fought for and ran into. Napoleon, Stalin and others came and brought order
  32. mole
    mole 31 January 2021 18: 13
    +2
    Quote: Fan-Fan
    Worse no no worker with faded eyes
    Well, we already in our history saw the NKVD-Schnikov with burning eyes in 1937.

    Who are "we???
    Enlighten about a billion ruined souls. Stop thinking stereotypes embedded in you! It's time to grow up!
  33. sniperino
    sniperino 31 January 2021 23: 17
    -1
    Quote: Mole
    Stop thinking stereotypes embedded in you!
    Not every departure of the human head is thought. For the most part, conditioned reflexes. Where do thoughts come from?
  34. Mechanic
    Mechanic 4 February 2021 08: 48
    0
    Yes, it's funny, the women probably gave birth faster than, according to the liberoids, Stalin shot. The population was growing for some reason
  35. Mechanic
    Mechanic 4 February 2021 08: 33
    0
    If you start putting things in order now, it will be much cooler than 37
  36. aleks26
    aleks26 31 January 2021 12: 39
    +6
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    We must act according to the law.

    And why is not a case brought against Yudina? For assaulting a police officer. Or is the law not written for her?
  37. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 31 January 2021 13: 38
    -5
    Quote: aleks26
    And why is not a case brought against Yudina? For assaulting a police officer. Or is the law not written for her?

    And I wrote above that according to the law, everyone, including Yudina, must answer. But not "with a boot in the stomach", but according to the law.
  38. Pilat2009
    Pilat2009 1 February 2021 13: 13
    -2
    Quote: aleks26
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    We must act according to the law.

    And why is not a case brought against Yudina? For assaulting a police officer. Or is the law not written for her?

    Did she touch him with her finger?
  39. Nazar
    Nazar 3 February 2021 01: 55
    -1
    aleksejkabanets - You are such a supporter of "legality" right? And the thought does not occur to you that this "injured" scourge originally violated the law:
    1. - she had no right to be there at all, since this whole action is illegal.
    2. - Jumping at the feet of a police officer, this is a direct violation of the law, that is, obstruction of the performance of official duties by a police officer.
    In a "civilized" country, this dirty trick would simply be shot on the spot and no BLM would fit in for it. And here you moaned "the woman" hit - it's just that if she did not break the law - no one would have touched her.
  40. axay032
    axay032 1 February 2021 13: 35
    +4
    The policeman is right one hundred percent, the lady after the hospital still has to pay a fine for participating in an unauthorized rally. I don’t want to leave the house one fine day and see burning tires and heaps of "Bulk" And a policeman who will think how to do her job, what if you push someone and you are in court !!!
  41. Tatyana
    Tatyana 31 January 2021 00: 11
    +3
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Quote: Tatiana
    Rita Yudina, 54, knocked down by a police boot ...

    Everything that you have written has no meaning. One must be held accountable for breaking the law.

    You have double standards. If you answer, then both and how the court will look at it.

    At the same time, it will not be superfluous to note that Yudina, who herself suffered from the actions of the security forces, could become detained.
    She watched the procession from the Admiralteyskaya. That is, she took part in an uncoordinated mass event, which is prohibited during the pandemic. Her appearance in front of the riot police can be regarded both as a violation of traffic rules (Yudina went out into the roadway), and as an obstacle to the performance of a police officer's official duties.
    But this is, if we ignore emotions and look at what happened in the position of the Administrative Code and the Criminal Code of Russia.

    The policeman apologized to her in a human way in the hospital. And in principle, the police had every right and could detain her, if she had not screamed so heart-rendingly.
  42. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 31 January 2021 00: 33
    +3
    Quote: Tatiana
    She watched the procession from the Admiralteyskaya. That is, she took part in an uncoordinated mass event,

    How fun is it that watching and taking part is the same thing?
    Quote: Tatiana
    But this is, if we ignore emotions and look at what happened in the position of the Administrative Code and the Criminal Code of Russia.

    Look better from the side of the "Law on Police", Article 19.
  43. Tatyana
    Tatyana 31 January 2021 00: 36
    +2
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Quote: Tatiana
    She watched the procession from the Admiralteyskaya. That is, she took part in an uncoordinated mass event,
    How fun is it that watching and taking part is the same thing?
    Not the same thing. And Yudina took part in the unauthorized march, having specially arrived in St. Petersburg from Luga for this.
    By the way, in her interviews, Yudina also spoke against herself about the article.

    It is also noteworthy that Yudina changed her decision to forgive the policeman after she was discharged from the hospital and talked at home with lawyers from "Team-29"

    REFERENCE
    Team 29 is an informal human rights association of lawyers and journalists, which aims to resist the growing closeness of the state in Russia. Started working in February 2015. Head - lawyer Ivan Pavlov.

    Through social networks, they announced a fundraiser for Margarita Yudina to pay off the loans she had collected. It was about 166 rubles.
    According to the deputy of the Okkervil Defense Ministry Kirill Volkov, the required amount was collected in just a day. After that, Volkov and his colleague from the Ligovka-Yamskaya municipal district, Alexander Izotov, repaid Yudina's loans through Gosuslugi.

    Repayment of the loan in such a situation can be viewed as bribery of Yudina in order to continue the provocation by the lawyers of the nefrmal human rights defenders "Team 29" against the police officer who has apologized and previously forgiven the victim.
    For details see - https://spb.mk.ru/social/2021/01/27/poluchivshey-udar-ot-omonovca-zhenshhine-pomogli-vyplatit-kredity.html
  44. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 31 January 2021 00: 53
    +2
    Quote: Tatiana
    Team 29 is an informal human rights association of lawyers and journalists ....

    Well, is it important in this context? It is about the lawfulness of the use of violence by the police. Otherwise, yes, I understand that the situation is shaking. I understand that Navalny is not our friend, not a comrade or brother. But the state will cross the "point of no return" by such methods, and then there will be nothing to agree on. Who needs blood?
  45. Tatyana
    Tatyana 31 January 2021 01: 06
    -1
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Quote: Tatiana
    Team 29 is an informal human rights association of lawyers and journalists ....
    Well, is it important in this context?
    How important!
    Don't the lawyers from the NGO "Teams 29" understand that they are exposing the victim herself? They understand. They just don't give a damn about her - they have their own interests!
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    yes, I understand that the situation is shaking. I understand that Navalny is not our friend, not a comrade or brother. But the state will cross the "point of no return" by such methods, and then there will be nothing to agree on. Who needs blood?
    It's good that it dawned on you that the situation is being purposefully rocked. So don't bother the police to rock it! Otherwise, there will be no one to protect the population, people, including you!
    Do not spit into the well (at the police), from which you will soon have to drink water!
    This has already been done in Ukraine. Remember the "Berkutovites!"
  46. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 31 January 2021 01: 17
    +9
    Quote: Tatiana
    It's good that it dawned on you that the situation is being purposefully rocked.

    The only question is who is shaking it more, Navalny with his shares or the authorities with his irrepressible greed, clannishness and theft?
    Quote: Tatiana
    So don't bother the police to rock it! Otherwise, there will be no one to protect the population, the people!

    It is these "employees" that provoke the crowd into violent and aggressive actions. Have you ever wondered where this might lead?
  47. Tatyana
    Tatyana 31 January 2021 01: 31
    +2
    It's useless to talk to you! I tell you about Thomas - you tell me about Erema!
    So do not go to such rallies for Navalny and his group! Who makes you sick in the head? These are not constructive ways to fight corruption!
    You are starting to fight corruption at the wrong end. You need to start with IDEOLOGY! The people will not really understand anything and act correctly for their prosperous future until they understand that in fact there is already informally the STATE ideology in the country in the form of the COLONIAL-PARASITARY paradigm of the American economist Milton Friedman, which is set out in his book "Capitalism and freedom "on the first 20 pages. And under Navalny it will not change, but will become even worse. Namely.

    Unfortunately, on this issue, Russian education in the country has long been "sour". The bourgeois ideology of the American economist M. Friedman is no longer called "bourgeois", but is called abstractly class ideology simply "market" with elements of the so-called. "Monetarism" (i.e. bourgeois pursuit of financial profits).
    But one cannot equate the concept of real capitalism with all its shortcomings with the doctrinaire idea of ​​the American Milton Friedman in the form of some kind of speculative social project, embodied in life, to build a supposedly ideally fair capitalism on Earth around the world. By what means?
    At the expense supposedly the existence in the world of a certain ANARCHISTIC is absolutely "free" from everyone and every world market, which is supposedly absolutely "clean" from profanities and dishonesty both on the part of the participants of the capital market, goods (services) and labor, and from the pressure on them by the national state. And at the same time, the author assumes that all market participants free from the state are initially at all times equal in their life start to each other and can always become rich if they just want it. This is pure utopia and bluff!
    Behind this attempt by Milton Friedman to whitewash capitalism lies a very definite goal taken by Washington's apologists. Namely.
    The purpose of this American bluff is to make the sovereign countries "indigenous" for the United States, uncontrollably and duty-free by their governments, mistakenly, free and defenseless from competition, open access for US multinational companies to their domestic markets for the sale of foreign goods and the purchase of "indigenous" wealth by foreigners , enterprises and natural resources.
    In this case, reduction of native state property in the maximum - to "0" - is promoted by the "market people" exclusively as a public good. For the state supposedly does not need to control anything, there is no need to punish anyone, and there is no need to regulate trade and production either. That at the same time all members of society will become such honest and law-abiding entrepreneurs that therefore it will no longer be necessary to protect the population from swindlers, thieves, robbers and murderers. And therefore, the alleged national state, as an anachronism, will disappear by itself as unnecessary, and there is no need to defend it at all. For the distribution of material goods "from above" at the state level is not required, because everything will be regulated by this "ideal" capitalist market. But those who did not fit into the market are already their problems. Let, they say, they survive on their own, as they can. These include in particular all the so-called. "superfluous" people: pensioners, disabled people, children, etc. - all those who "did not fit into the market." But they should be "happy" with their freedom from the centuries-old, fattening abstract-bureaucratic state, which has always been dreamed of by the anarchists for centuries.

    TOTAL. All this Milton Friedman's ideology about the alleged existence of the so-called. "free" and "clean" market is an anarchist propaganda of the American establishment to disintegrate the national security of sovereign states to their complete elimination and subjugation of their resources in favor of US multinational companies. And unfortunately, this ideology has been UNOFICIALLY adopted by the Russian ruling elite as a state ideology. It is implemented in practice by the government of the Russian Federation, the guarantor of the liberal Constitution of the Russian Federation, in the State Duma and the Federation Council. On the basis of the very Constitution of the Russian Federation, written for Russian liberals, the authorities from the side of specialists from the United States.
    And the HSE is the forge of bourgeois young cadres in this comprador economy and its apologists.
    REFERENCE
    Compradorism (Spanish comprador buyer) is a way of doing business in which profit is derived from activities that undermine its national economy and reduce its ability to grow and ...
  48. Dart2027
    Dart2027 31 January 2021 06: 31
    -3
    Quote: Tatiana
    It's useless to talk to you! I tell you about Thomas - you tell me about Erema!

    He's just one of those who dreams of making a revolution with a civil war and the collapse of the country.
  49. Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 31 January 2021 10: 57
    +17
    Quote: Dart2027
    He's just one of those who dreams of making a revolution with a civil war and the collapse of the country.

    There has already been a certain person in history who claimed that Deutschland = Hitler, but my Grandfather proved to him that this was not so.
  50. Dart2027
    Dart2027 31 January 2021 11: 59
    -1
    Quote: Stroporez
    There was already a certain person in history who

    History is full of all sorts of people who arrange revolutions to the delight of the United States, so your grandfather is no longer interesting.
  51. sniperino
    sniperino 31 January 2021 23: 27
    +2
    Quote: Dart2027
    grandfather
    She doesn't know who else to hide behind: either for the son of a sambist, or for the hero's grandfather.
  52. Dart2027
    Dart2027 1 February 2021 20: 01
    0
    Quote: sniperino
    Doesn't know who else to hide behind

    Exactly.
  53. Revival
    Revival 1 February 2021 04: 40
    +2
    And you did not go overboard by chance
    , about his grandfather, who "is no longer interesting to you" !!!?, @
  54. Dart2027
    Dart2027 1 February 2021 20: 03
    +1
    Quote: Revival
    And you did not go overboard by chance

    Nope. They simply dragged him here, because nothing else can be said.
    Quote: sniperino
    She doesn't know who else to hide behind: either for the son of a sambist, or for the hero's grandfather.
  55. sniperino
    sniperino 31 January 2021 23: 24
    +2
    Quote: Dart2027
    one of those who dream of making a revolution with a civil war and the collapse of the country.
    Or jam with cookies works out.
  56. Essex62
    Essex62 31 January 2021 13: 29
    +1
    I agree and subscribe to every line you write, Tatyana. If only you could have put 10000 pluses. This is an ideology that we do not have.
  57. Revival
    Revival 1 February 2021 04: 42
    +1
    Bulk banned?
  58. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 21: 29
    +4
    How were you minus. They don't want to be conscious and they don't want others to get it. These are Goebbels' students. Mark Twain called the US policy - to rob a neighbor for his own benefit. This is during the US attack on Mexico.
  59. Revival
    Revival 1 February 2021 04: 38
    +1
    So do not scribble, in every article, you need to start with ideology !!!!
    Let's start with ideology !!!
    It's so easy for everyone to do it, come on!
    Or do you propose to whom not to twitch and start simple, with an ideology for the people !?
  60. Tatyana
    Tatyana 1 February 2021 11: 28
    +1
    Quote: Revival
    So do not scribble, in every article, you need to start with ideology !!!!
    Let's start with ideology !!!
    It's so easy for everyone to do it, come on!
    Or do you propose to whom not to twitch and start simple, with an ideology for the people !?

    Don't shut my mouth, degenerate "communist"!
    If you yourself do not understand Marxism-Leninism and dialectics, then do not bother others!

    All of you, now degenerate "communists", are displeased! They turned into a political insignificance! Found an ally - Navalny !!! In common with him, with your red flags and welcoming flags of the LGBT team, you stalk the streets behind Navalny and swing the stupid supposedly proletarian revolution in Russia!
    You yourself can’t do anything — to assemble your rally separately — so you cling to the provocateurs — foreign agents of Western influence: Navalny, Khodorkovsky ...! Through them you want to get into power in an ugly way! And then the population will need to cleanse such freaks-revisionist-anarchists everywhere with blood from their lives ...
    SCAMMERS!
  61. Tatyana
    Tatyana 1 February 2021 11: 53
    +1
    Quote: Revival
    ................................

    Or maybe you are just a Makhnovist? Then take away the RED flag of Victory over the Reichstag from your avatar and don’t powder the brains of people, what are you for Soviet power!
  62. Essex62
    Essex62 1 February 2021 11: 58
    +3
    What kind of communists are they? Zyu won the election with ebna and backed up. I got cold feet, as if something did not work out.
  63. Orkraider
    Orkraider 1 February 2021 12: 33
    +3
    Quote: Tatiana
    It's useless to talk to you! I tell you about Thomas - you tell me about Erema!
    So do not go to such rallies for Navalny and his group! Who makes you sick in the head? These are not constructive ways to fight corruption!
    You are starting to fight corruption at the wrong end. You need to start with IDEOLOGY! The people will not really understand anything and act correctly for their prosperous future until they understand that in fact there is already informally the STATE ideology in the country in the form of the COLONIAL-PARASITARY paradigm of the American economist Milton Friedman, which is set out in his book "Capitalism and freedom "on the first 20 pages. And under Navalny it will not change, but will become even worse. Namely.

    Unfortunately, on this issue, Russian education in the country has long been "sour". The bourgeois ideology of the American economist M. Friedman is no longer called "bourgeois", but is called abstractly class ideology simply "market" with elements of the so-called. "Monetarism" (i.e. bourgeois pursuit of financial profits).
    But one cannot equate the concept of real capitalism with all its shortcomings with the doctrinaire idea of ​​the American Milton Friedman in the form of some kind of speculative social project, embodied in life, to build a supposedly ideally fair capitalism on Earth around the world. By what means?
    At the expense supposedly the existence in the world of a certain ANARCHISTIC is absolutely "free" from everyone and every world market, which is supposedly absolutely "clean" from profanities and dishonesty both on the part of the participants of the capital market, goods (services) and labor, and from the pressure on them by the national state. And at the same time, the author assumes that all market participants free from the state are initially at all times equal in their life start to each other and can always become rich if they just want it. This is pure utopia and bluff!
    Behind this attempt by Milton Friedman to whitewash capitalism lies a very definite goal taken by Washington's apologists. Namely.
    The purpose of this American bluff is to make the sovereign countries "indigenous" for the United States, uncontrollably and duty-free by their governments, mistakenly, free and defenseless from competition, open access for US multinational companies to their domestic markets for the sale of foreign goods and the purchase of "indigenous" wealth by foreigners , enterprises and natural resources.
    In this case, reduction of native state property in the maximum - to "0" - is promoted by the "market people" exclusively as a public good. For the state supposedly does not need to control anything, there is no need to punish anyone, and there is no need to regulate trade and production either. That at the same time all members of society will become such honest and law-abiding entrepreneurs that therefore it will no longer be necessary to protect the population from swindlers, thieves, robbers and murderers. And therefore, the alleged national state, as an anachronism, will disappear by itself as unnecessary, and there is no need to defend it at all. For the distribution of material goods "from above" at the state level is not required, because everything will be regulated by this "ideal" capitalist market. But those who did not fit into the market are already their problems. Let, they say, they survive on their own, as they can. These include in particular all the so-called. "superfluous" people: pensioners, disabled people, children, etc. - all those who "did not fit into the market." But they should be "happy" with their freedom from the centuries-old, fattening abstract-bureaucratic state, which has always been dreamed of by the anarchists for centuries.

    TOTAL. All this Milton Friedman's ideology about the alleged existence of the so-called. "free" and "clean" market is an anarchist propaganda of the American establishment to disintegrate the national security of sovereign states to their complete elimination and subjugation of their resources in favor of US multinational companies. And unfortunately, this ideology has been UNOFICIALLY adopted by the Russian ruling elite as a state ideology. It is implemented in practice by the government of the Russian Federation, the guarantor of the liberal Constitution of the Russian Federation, in the State Duma and the Federation Council. On the basis of the very Constitution of the Russian Federation, written for Russian liberals, the authorities from the side of specialists from the United States.
    And the HSE is the forge of bourgeois young cadres in this comprador economy and its apologists.
    REFERENCE
    Compradorism (Spanish comprador buyer) is a way of doing business in which profit is derived from activities that undermine its national economy and reduce its ability to grow and ...


    Welcome
    hi
    Great answer!
    Bravo love
  64. clerk
    clerk 31 January 2021 02: 25
    +1
    It won't get you anywhere. The crowd is provoked not by the actions of the police, but by the customers. And your goal - by any arguments (reference to the female sex, accusations of breaking the law, intimidation of the consequences of police actions, etc.) will force the police to inaction.
  65. sniperino
    sniperino 31 January 2021 07: 17
    +2
    Quote: clerk
    The crowd is provoked not by the actions of the police, but by the customers.
    They did not succeed with teenagers, their aunt is the last hope. And then a lot of money invested for the sake of receiving the "innocent victims of the regime" - down the drain.
  66. Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 31 January 2021 11: 00
    +12
    Quote: sniperino
    as teenagers, they did not succeed, the aunt is the last hope. And then a lot of money invested for the sake of receiving the "innocent victims of the regime" - down the drain.

    Are you sure that those same teenagers want to live in such a state called eboputinism?
  67. sniperino
    sniperino 31 January 2021 11: 24
    +6
    Quote: Stroporez
    Are you sure that those same teenagers want to live in such a state called eboputinism?
    You are already building a state within a state for yourself and have invented a name for it, and are you luring teenagers there with false promises? Political pedophiles are in for a happy joy. And adolescents, of course, want everything good and don't want anything bad. Only they haven't figured out where what is.
  68. Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 31 January 2021 12: 05
    +12
    Quote: sniperino
    You are already building a state within a state for yourself and have invented a name for it, and are you luring teenagers there with false promises?

    Colleague, I fought for tonsils for my youth and sometimes I don’t want to remember certain episodes, and now I understand one thing that if my children choose another, good life, then I, as a parent and a citizen, will stand up for their choice and be sure to use it in this sense of all their skills, as well as conscience and beliefs.
  69. sniperino
    sniperino 31 January 2021 12: 42
    +6
    Quote: Stroporez
    if my children choose a different, good life, then I, as a parent and a citizen, will stand up for their choice
    Not yours?
  70. Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 31 January 2021 13: 29
    +9
    Quote: sniperino
    Not yours?

    Nooooooo, this is not mine, My Kms in SAMBO and quite calmly will be able to cram the police officer into the holes belonging to the same policeman
  71. Pensive Lawyer
    Pensive Lawyer 31 January 2021 14: 59
    +10
    And he will immediately lie face down on the floor, since most often the horses are detained not by ordinary police officers, but by the National Guard officers in uniform. Who also have the appropriate training. And then he will go to places not so distant.
    And, if he thinks the same way as you ("policemen" "push the employee"), then, I'm afraid, there he belongs.
    As for your judgments ... as a lawyer, I advise you to choose expressions more carefully so as not to blurt out too much in the heat, judging by the emotions in your comments, you are quite capable of unconsciously doing this in the heat of the discussion.
    I will not say that I will feel sorry for you, I am a representative of completely opposite views of yours, and, sinful, I cannot be objective here.
    But I fully admit that you are a good person, a patriot, just letting off steam here, and then it will be a shame to get an article for appeals out of stupidity.
    Therefore, let's be a little more civilized in the terms set forth publicly, and we will not turn VO into an analogue of Yandex Zen.
  72. Dart2027
    Dart2027 31 January 2021 16: 26
    +3
    Quote: Pensive Lawyer
    And he will immediately lie face down on the floor, since most often the horses are detained not by ordinary police officers, but by the National Guard officers in uniform. Who also have the appropriate training. And then he will go to places not so distant.

    I wonder if some master is shot at something as especially dangerous, there will also be a wave of screams?
    I was greatly moved by the story of Alexei Kudin, a professional MMA fighter from Belarus, who stunned several police officers. A professional hand-to-hand fighter fights with the police and he was not shot to ... on the spot and was not even locked up in a pre-trial detention center, but was released on a subscription, spit on which he fled. True, they still caught him, and again at a rally, so it looks like he will get his all the same.
    https://www.sports.ru/boxing/1093151989-v-moskve-zaderzhali-bezhavshego-iz-belarusi-bojcza-mma-kudina.html
  73. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 21: 39
    0
    About nuts and bolts in the know?
  74. sniperino
    sniperino 31 January 2021 22: 23
    +2
    Quote: Stroporez
    the police officer can easily cram the holes belonging to the same policeman
    Does it even bother you? Or also gets
  75. clerk
    clerk 31 January 2021 14: 11
    0
    And if you do not agree with the choice of your children and understand that they are being deceived, would you still approve of their choice?
  76. ZAV69
    ZAV69 31 January 2021 16: 11
    +1
    Quote: Stroporez
    Colleague, I fought for tonsils for my youth and sometimes I don’t want to remember certain episodes, and now I understand one thing that if my children choose another, good life, then I, as a parent and a citizen, will stand up for their choice and be sure to use it in this sense of all their skills, as well as conscience and beliefs.

    That's when your children are trampled from institutes with a wolf ticket, then remember your approval
  77. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 3 February 2021 11: 09
    -1
    Quote: ZAV69
    That's when your children are trampled from institutes with a wolf ticket, then remember your approval

    Did this help Nikolai number two a lot?
  78. ZAV69
    ZAV69 3 February 2021 11: 11
    0
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Quote: ZAV69
    That's when your children are trampled from institutes with a wolf ticket, then remember your approval

    Did this help Nikolai number two a lot?

    Will it help your children in life?
  79. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 3 February 2021 17: 56
    -2
    Quote: ZAV69
    Will it help your children in life?

    It is not clear to me whether you care about my children or propose to expel students with an active life position from the institutes with a wolf ticket? Why not prohibit the use of schoolchildren in the actions of a united Russia? Or is it different?
  80. ZAV69
    ZAV69 3 February 2021 22: 33
    -1
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    propose to expel students, with an active lifestyle from the institutes with a wolf ticket?

    Exactly. If their active life position is aimed at destroying the state, then why the heck should the state teach them? Let them stomp into the army or the wipers.
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Why not prohibit the use of schoolchildren in the actions of a united Russia? Or is it different?

    Shares of United Russia violate the law of the Russian Federation? Are they not consistent? And what, the kids are being escorted there?
  81. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 3 February 2021 22: 46
    -1
    Quote: ZAV69
    Exactly. If their active life position is aimed at destroying the state, then why the heck should the state teach them?

    You'd better look from this point of view, are students satisfied with such a state? Will they have a lot of jobs after university?
    Quote: ZAV69
    Let them stomp into the army or the wipers.

    In your opinion, will they have a great desire to protect such a state?
    Quote: ZAV69
    Shares of United Russia violate the law of the Russian Federation? Are they not consistent? And what, the kids are being escorted there?

    I don’t want to comment on such nonsense.
  82. ZAV69
    ZAV69 4 February 2021 08: 50
    0
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    You'd better look from this point of view, are students satisfied with such a state? Will they have a lot of jobs after university?

    Who prevents you from organizing into a party and going to the polls?
    Intelligent students are usually employed in the last courses in their specialty. And if there are no workers, then who prevented them from entering the place where graduates are beginning to be lured even in practice?
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    I don’t want to comment on such nonsense.
    Drain protected
  83. Dart2027
    Dart2027 31 January 2021 12: 00
    0
    Quote: Stroporez
    Are you sure that those same teenagers want to live

    Do you decide for them?
  84. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 21: 42
    0
    It looks like yours are run by some Hitler Youth types
  85. Dart2027
    Dart2027 31 January 2021 21: 50
    +2
    Quote: zenion
    It looks like yours are being ruled

    That you are self-critical.
  86. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 22: 23
    -1
    Now you have already become like two friends from Ilf and Petrov, how they sawed weights out of "gold", so now you push yourself away with words - and who are you ...
  87. Dart2027
    Dart2027 1 February 2021 20: 05
    +1
    Quote: zenion
    Now you have already become like two friends from Ilf and Petrov

    That is, they agree.
  88. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 31 January 2021 10: 19
    -2
    Quote: clerk
    And your goal - by any arguments (reference to the female sex, accusations of breaking the law, intimidation of the consequences of police actions, etc.) will force the police to inaction.

    My goal, in this case, is to show that the officer who hit the woman violated the "Law on the Police", for which he must answer. Why should I live by the law and the police don't?
  89. clerk
    clerk 31 January 2021 11: 05
    +1
    "Show that a police officer has violated the law" can only be a court or a body with the authority to investigate cases of administrative violations. Personally, you have neither the knowledge, nor the facts, nor the authority to do this. That is, you are a liar and a slanderer, grossly violating the Constitution of Russia in order to discredit and intimidate its employees, in order to complicate the work of the police in the suppression of illegal actions.
  90. Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 31 January 2021 11: 26
    +16
    Quote: clerk
    Personally, you have neither the knowledge, nor the facts, nor the authority to do this. That is, you are a liar and a slanderer, grossly violating the Constitution of Russia in order to discredit and intimidate its employees, in order to make it difficult for the police to prevent illegal actions.

    The fact of the violation was recorded on video, just like the fact of apologizing by this bastard in uniform.
    And if you suddenly thought that this ghoul has no legal and legal assessment now, then believe me that in a very short time he will be condemned by the people themselves.
    PySy. If something similar happened to my Mom, I would find and punish the villain to the fullest extent of proletarian justice. soldier
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  92. Dart2027
    Dart2027 31 January 2021 12: 02
    +3
    Quote: Stroporez
    If something like this happened to my Mom, I would

    If you would like to send your mother to such a gathering, then I can sympathize with her.
  93. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 21: 48
    +3
    How did the filming end up there, so it was a rigged provocation? Who pushed her that she was promised?
  94. sniperino
    sniperino 31 January 2021 23: 38
    +1
    Quote: Stroporez
    I would find and punish the villain to the fullest extent of proletarian justice.
    One left, or two?
  95. Santa Fe
    Santa Fe 1 February 2021 00: 22
    0
    The people will not condemn anyone, civilians cannot pose a threat to the state
    If something like this happened to my Mom, then I would find and punish the villain to the fullest extent of proletarian justice

    Ko-ko-ko
  96. Revival
    Revival 1 February 2021 04: 50
    +1
    Oh, "petia, petia" well, what are you?
  97. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 31 January 2021 11: 59
    -3
    Quote: clerk
    "Show that a police officer has violated the law" can only be a court or a body with the authority to investigate cases of administrative violations.

    Any person can "show", that is, draw the attention of the relevant authorities. In this case, to understand the essence, this is the prerogative of the supervisory authority, i.e. prosecutors. No "administrative practice" can be applied to a police officer in this case. The employee grossly violated the Federal Law of 07.02.2011 N 3-FZ (as amended on 29.12.2020) "On the Police", in particular Art. 19. The procedure for the use of physical force, special means and firearms. In particular, I violated paragraphs 1, 3 and 4. Here is a link, you can see for yourself: http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_110165/b0e7a72817927f6520504c25498b9f687209dfee/
    Quote: clerk
    Personally, you have neither knowledge, nor facts, nor authority for this.

    Who are you to judge my knowledge so indiscriminately? Regarding "neither facts, nor powers", I inform you that there are facts on the video (do you know the concept of video recording?), Regarding powers, are you familiar with such a concept as "Public Defender"? Anyone can be. http://www.jk.ru/blog/173/
    Quote: clerk
    That is, you are a liar and a slanderer, grossly violating the Constitution of Russia in order to discredit and intimidate its employees, in order to make it difficult for the police to prevent illegal actions.

    I usually do not answer people of whom the notorious D.N. Puchkov calls them "stupid young people" (the site does not pass another word), but in your case I will make an exception. Which article (s) of the Constitution have I violated? What grounds do you have for attributing such "goals" to me?
  98. clerk
    clerk 31 January 2021 12: 57
    +1
    1) You did not apply to the prosecutor's office, but anonymously spread lies and slander to the Internet about allegedly violating the law by the police 2) There is no legal assessment on the video. The public defender acts according to the law, and you spread lies and slander anonymously on the Internet. Therefore, you are not a public defender, but a banal liar and slanderer. 3) With your anonymous, deceitful, slanderous accusations against a police officer who honestly fulfilled his duty, you violated paragraph 1 of Art. 23 of the Constitution of Russia, depriving the police of the right to protect his good name. Therefore, you are a liar and a slanderer.
  99. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 31 January 2021 13: 05
    -3
    Quote: clerk
    You did not turn to the prosecutor's office, but anonymously spread lies and slander to the Internet about allegedly violating the law by the police

    So scribble a denunciation on me, who's stopping you. According to my nickname, my name and surname are quite clear. All the data and even the city of residence in my comments can be found. Forward! If you think that I am spreading slander, contact the prosecutor's office.
    Quote: clerk
    You violated clause 1 of Art. 23 of the Constitution of Russia, depriving the police of the right to protect his good name. Therefore, you are a liar and a slanderer.

    Contact the prosecutor's office, who is stopping you? And for me, a being who kicked an old woman with a boot cannot have a good name.
  100. clerk
    clerk 31 January 2021 13: 19
    +1
    1) Yudina's "laurels" do not let you sleep, but should I help you get started? Why should I? "By herself, by herself, by herself ... (c) 2) And you are not only a liar and a slanderer, but also a banal male chauvinist who denies women their rights (including raking in the event of butting with men while performing). a course that women have been serving in the army for 80 years in combat specialties?
  101. Dart2027
    Dart2027 31 January 2021 14: 47
    +2
    Quote: clerk
    And you are not only a liar and a slanderer, but also a banal male chauvinist who denies women their rights (including raking in the event of butting with men during execution). Do you even know that women have been serving in the army for 80 years in combat specialties?

    Precisely noticed.
  102. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 21: 55
    +3
    A man with no name! Suddenly you became a protector of women and stuff. And they wanted to send my mother to the hooves of the Cossack horses.
  103. Dart2027
    Dart2027 31 January 2021 22: 07
    +1
    Quote: zenion
    Suddenly you became a protector of women and stuff.

    Is it you me or is the site crashing?
  104. Pensive Lawyer
    Pensive Lawyer 31 January 2021 15: 30
    +5
    An elderly woman 54 years old, it seems. Not that old.
    The officer of the National Guard went too far, yes.
    But from the point of view of the law, there were no violations.
    According to clause 1. ....... In the case of the use of physical force, special means or firearms as part of a subdivision (group), this warning is given by one of the police officers included in the subdivision (group).
    The police naturally warned over loudspeakers of possible arrest and use of force. It's enough.

    According to clause 3. When using physical force, special means or firearms, a police officer shall act taking into account the created situation, the nature and degree of danger of the actions of persons in respect of whom physical force, special means or firearms are used, the nature and strength of their resistance. At the same time, the police officer must strive to minimize any damage.
    Situation - riots, isolated clashes with employees. The woman got in the way. To stop is to show weakness, and another person 5 will stand next to the woman. And then you will not pass. Hands are busy. He kicked me away. The fact that the employee did not hit, but shoved it away, indicates that the employee did not even sway, the woman flew off more because the blow was on the move, then the inertia force and the difference in mass were connected. Yes, and from the foot, I think everyone knows how to beat, but here the movement is precisely by pushing (knee to stomach - foot forward).
    I don't see how the employee could have done otherwise. I think it would be more rude to drag it over the face with the left hand.

    According to item 4. A police officer is obliged to provide a citizen who has received bodily harm as a result of the use of physical force, special means or firearms, first aid, and also take measures to provide him with medical assistance as soon as possible.
    What about bodily injury? The video is cut off. Maybe she got up and only after a while went to the hospital. This is just speculation.

    In fact, the woman tried to prevent the detention. In many European countries, in a similar situation, it would have been treated even worse (in France it could well have caught a rubber bullet, in the United States and a combat one, by the way, too).

    Nefig to organize spontaneous rallies. If you want a meeting - agree in advance, they will prepare everything for you, organize, and forward, shout to your health. If you want to scream that the police are fascists, get into a fight with riot police, throw dirt at them, throw snowballs at them - well, your choice, no one will agree on this, and the Constitution does not provide for this, just do not be surprised when after that the twisted police act harshly and do not bow down.
  105. clerk
    clerk 31 January 2021 16: 57
    +2
    According to clause 4: "Director of the Janelidze Research Institute Vadim Manukovsky retracted his words about the excellent health of a Petersburg woman who was hit by a policeman and who ended up in the intensive care unit. So he said in an interview with Fontanka.
    “Invented and quoted. I didn’t say that phrase, ”he said.
    However, the journalists of Podvyaz, who had previously given this quote, answered him: “We rechecked the number we called in WhatsApp and GetContact - the phone belongs to Manukovsky and he still spoke of“ great health ”. (The whole quote sounded like this: "She has a slight injury, there are no problems at all. She is conscious, she feels great, I would have discharged her at all"). (with)
  106. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 22: 00
    +2
    How to write this out if an elderly grandmother was there with one leg and said that it was very hot there and with horns.
  107. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 21: 58
    +1
    You have now broken many of the hearts of the bulkheads; moreover, you have twisted their convolutions. Surprisingly, they didn't even put a minus. Apparently from the brain twisted his hands.
  108. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 21: 54
    +3
    Oops! You have already made her an old woman. She may be offended by you and say that you persuaded her. She will leave, and you will sit down for malicious provocations against a law enforcement officer. Both on!
  109. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 21: 51
    +1
    Is there a provocation against a representative of the law and the country? How much do you think she can take? How much would you give her if she threw herself at your feet and you smashed your forehead on the asphalt?
  110. for
    for 31 January 2021 15: 11
    -1
    Quote: clerk
    That is, you are a liar and a slanderer,

    So you violated, the court has not yet recognized him as a slanderer.
  111. clerk
    clerk 31 January 2021 16: 53
    0
    Whom "his" court did not recognize as a slanderer - a computer nickname on this site?
  112. Dart2027
    Dart2027 31 January 2021 12: 01
    0
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    My goal, in this case

    another color revolution.
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Why should I live by the law and the police don't?

    They have already explained to you that everything was according to the law.
  113. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 22: 02
    -1
    How do they click you? Hopefully not the way I call the dog, but you are artsy and with a number from the future.
  114. aleks26
    aleks26 31 January 2021 12: 52
    -1
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    My goal, in this case, is to show that the employee who hit the woman violated the "Law on the Police", for which he must answer.

    And do not want to expand the goal - to show that Yudina also violated the law, for what should she be responsible?
  115. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 31 January 2021 13: 41
    -1
    Quote: aleks26
    And do not want to expand the goal - to show that Yudina also violated the law, for what should she be responsible?

    Yes, I have written about this many times, I repeat, they both must answer according to the law.
  116. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 21: 46
    +1
    Maybe, admit, who pushed the poor fellow under the feet of the authorities? How much did you personally promise her?
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  118. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 21: 35
    +2
    As soon as the masks are removed from their faces, they immediately minus.
  119. Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 31 January 2021 09: 20
    +12
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    The only question is who is shaking it more, Navalny with his shares or the authorities with his irrepressible greed, clannishness and theft?

    Comrade, that's right! Navalny has absolutely nothing to do with it, but the salary of 15 wooden tyrs from Putin's gaspadin and the ruined and plundered economy are the engine of the emerging protest.
  120. sniperino
    sniperino 31 January 2021 11: 03
    +1
    Quote: Stroporez
    is the engine of the emerging protest
    I have to report that you had a miscarriage.
  121. Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 31 January 2021 11: 11
    +12
    Quote: sniperino
    I have to report that you had a miscarriage.

    Scar Nicholas under namber two also thought so in 1905.
  122. Dart2027
    Dart2027 31 January 2021 12: 03
    -2
    Quote: Stroporez
    Stsar nicholas under nmber two

    So how did it end? Perestroika.
  123. Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 31 January 2021 12: 22
    +14
    Quote: Dart2027
    So how did it end? Perestroika.

    In his case, everything ended in a basement and a well-deserved execution, and as for the revolution, Duc "the revolution has a beginning ..." of them who survived will envy the dead.
  124. Dart2027
    Dart2027 31 January 2021 12: 26
    -2
    Quote: Stroporez
    In his case, it all ended in a basement and a well-deserved execution.

    After that, the revolutionaries were shot for twenty years.
    Quote: Stroporez
    Duc "the revolution has a beginning ....." in 85-91-93 there was a counter-revolution

    This is when the communists destroyed the USSR? Somehow it doesn't look like it.
    Quote: Stroporez
    and those of them who survive will envy the dead.

    I really hope that if (God forbid) another revolution occurs, then you will have time to see how all your relatives in this revolution will be killed, before you yourself will be shot when the new government will clean up potential troublemakers.
  125. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 22: 10
    0
    Are you planning to shoot bulk, or strangle?
  126. Dart2027
    Dart2027 1 February 2021 20: 06
    +1
    Quote: zenion
    Are you planning bulk

    He is just a pawn, but at the moment it will not be possible to reach his owners.
  127. kakvastam
    kakvastam 31 January 2021 16: 56
    +3
    Regardless of the personality and merit of Nicholas II, an extrajudicial reprisal against a group of individuals is simply a mass murder.
    The story is extremely dark, and no one got better from it, except for the British crown, as usual ...

    But in the current situation, the collapse of power will not lead to the fact that
    Quote: Stroporez
    those who survived will envy the dead
    , but to the fact that the dead will be the envy of those of us who are not lucky enough to bend. Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria and other "lucky ones" are examples of this.
  128. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 22: 09
    +1
    Then Navalny needs to let go of his beard. But as one Arab sage says, a beard is not yet a sign of great intelligence.
  129. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 22: 07
    0
    Dreaming is harmless! Lenin was there. Stalin was there. They were all clever and children, they did not shield themselves, nor did they throw women under locomotives.
  130. clerk
    clerk 31 January 2021 11: 12
    0
    A meeting of adolescents, urban madmen, and petty provocateurs about economic problems? A new word in political analytics.
  131. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 22: 06
    +1
    And where did the bulk of the money come from, really from children's breakfasts?
  132. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 21: 25
    0
    And the crowd, that is, the mass, could not provoke? Dumb mass!
  133. Revival
    Revival 1 February 2021 04: 34
    +1
    Don't waste your time, I tried for two days to draw out a direct answer, it's useless, only hysteria and a cry about "reptilians" and "rallying" and modcha wait
  134. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 21: 24
    +1
    You will scare everyone so that the fish in the water will start stuttering. The "presidential palace" misses you; working hands are needed there.
  135. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 21: 22
    -1
    She hoped that if the Americans did not pay, the Russians would pay.
  136. saigon
    saigon 31 January 2021 06: 50
    +1
    Tatyana has already offered help on many legal websites of Madame, and not stupid lawyers.
    And the most interesting thing is even those who categorically do not accept Lesha and his followers.
  137. clerk
    clerk 31 January 2021 08: 45
    0
    Pontius Pilate was about to pardon Jesus, but then Elman Pashayev took the floor. (WITH)
  138. Dart2027
    Dart2027 31 January 2021 08: 55
    +2
    Quote: saigon
    And the most interesting thing is even those who categorically do not accept Lesha and his followers.

    Though with the devil, but against the authorities. Nothing new.
  139. saigon
    saigon 31 January 2021 10: 23
    +2
    You have strange conclusions, black white and no tones.
    I personally have Lesha on my side, but there is a layer of people to whom he is directly a ray of light, etc. according to the well-known text.
    What do you mean by the word or term power?
    Power itself is an abstraction, the same term as darkness that carries meanings (and meanings are different).
    Understand that most of the police officers madam just pushed or walked around, maybe madam would have fallen, but again, but madam got a kick.
    In a word, like that Madame and the footballer found each other and the resonance went and how to get out now is not very clear.
    And at the expense of the new, you forgive me wrong, the situation is new and very dangerous.
    Did you even think that the situation is extremely difficult for the leadership of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the football player and others will think about how to follow orders, do not punish the player and we get screams about the death of the law and bloody guardsmen.
    That is, the split in society will deepen.
    In such a stalemate before the elections, the leadership was hounded by one, ONE dashing and well-aimed kick at the camera.
    Well, now think about whether it is important for or against power, or is it secondary.
  140. sniperino
    sniperino 31 January 2021 11: 07
    0
    Quote: saigon
    offered help, and not stupid lawyers
    Maybe not stupid, they don't give you any guarantees, but they are very greedy. Call them and ask how much they want for their services. Obviously more than you are for similar ones.
  141. clerk
    clerk 31 January 2021 13: 02
    0
    Everything is simpler - they expect to profit from the money of Yudina's owners if they manage to inflate the scandal and translate it into a legal plane
  142. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 22: 12
    +1
    You need to start your defense with an examination in a psychiatric hospital, and then on and on ...
  143. sniperino
    sniperino 31 January 2021 22: 59
    +1
    Quote: saigon
    offered help, and not stupid lawyers
    Funeral home "Nymph" did not offer discounts?
  144. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 31 January 2021 11: 02
    -1
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Everything that you wrote is irrelevant

    Has the most direct.
    From the above, it follows that she is an ideological enemy - in the way of life and, therefore, in the way of thinking.
    And she - not by law, but by conscience - is entitled to a bullet.
  145. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 31 January 2021 11: 06
    -1
    Quote: Narak-zempo
    And she - not by law, but by conscience - is entitled to a bullet.

    Maybe we will stop living "according to the concepts"? Can you live more correctly according to the law?
  146. clerk
    clerk 31 January 2021 11: 16
    +2
    If you are this type of advocates of legality, why do you declare a police officer a criminal in violation of the Russian Constitution?
  147. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 31 January 2021 12: 06
    0
    Quote: clerk
    If you are this type of advocates of legality, why do you declare a police officer a criminal in violation of the Russian Constitution?

    Something I do not remember that I would call him a criminal, I wrote only that this two-legged creature that kicks women can not be called not only a "policeman", but also a man. In addition, I wrote that he broke the law. Above I answered you, I will quote.
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Quote: clerk
    "Show that a police officer has violated the law" can only be a court or a body with the authority to investigate cases of administrative violations.

    Any person can "show", that is, draw the attention of the relevant authorities. In this case, to understand the essence, this is the prerogative of the supervisory authority, i.e. prosecutors. No "administrative practice" can be applied to a police officer in this case. The employee grossly violated the Federal Law of 07.02.2011 N 3-FZ (as amended on 29.12.2020) "On the Police", in particular Art. 19. The procedure for the use of physical force, special means and firearms. In particular, I violated paragraphs 1, 3 and 4. Here is a link, you can see for yourself: http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_110165/b0e7a72817927f6520504c25498b9f687209dfee/
    Quote: clerk
    Personally, you have neither knowledge, nor facts, nor authority for this.

    Who are you to judge my knowledge so indiscriminately? Regarding "neither facts, nor powers", I inform you that there are facts on the video (do you know the concept of video recording?), Regarding powers, are you familiar with such a concept as "Public Defender"? Anyone can be. http://www.jk.ru/blog/173/
    Quote: clerk
    That is, you are a liar and a slanderer, grossly violating the Constitution of Russia in order to discredit and intimidate its employees, in order to make it difficult for the police to prevent illegal actions.

    I usually do not answer people of whom the notorious D.N. Puchkov calls them "stupid young people" (the site does not pass another word), but in your case I will make an exception. Which article (s) of the Constitution have I violated? What grounds do you have for attributing such "goals" to me?

    Are you enough?
  148. clerk
    clerk 31 January 2021 12: 41
    +1
    Your lies and fraud? We are in a free country - I have no right to limit your lies.
  149. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 31 January 2021 12: 44
    0
    Quote: clerk
    Your lies and fraud?

    Refute if you can, of course. In my opinion, I answered you reasonably, but your arguments are not very good.
  150. clerk
    clerk 31 January 2021 13: 05
    -1
    Answered point by point in original post
  151. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 31 January 2021 13: 15
    -3
    Quote: clerk
    Answered point by point in original post

    Does not stand up to criticism, I wrote above.
  152. clerk
    clerk 31 January 2021 13: 25
    +1
    They wrote. It is a pity that they could not argue.
  153. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 31 January 2021 11: 33
    0
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Maybe we will stop living "according to the concepts"?

    One must live according to conscience, according to conscience.
  154. Thompson
    Thompson 31 January 2021 16: 05
    +2
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Can you live more correctly according to the law?

    I would agree, but .... Are you ... really stupid or with intent to play with one goal! ???
    Why should only a policeman live by the law ???
    And if both - what the hell was she doing at this illegal rally?
    Hence, initially it is the source and cause of the Consequences!
    Moreover, with her unlawful actions, she was not only present, but also prevented the LEGAL organizations from fulfilling their obligations to prevent offenses! And if they are wrong in execution, then, as you say, it was necessary to look for video evidence and go to court, And not to cut off to a meeting and shout - WHAT ARE WE FOR? A familiar phrase! Soon, it seems likely to wait from you- LOWER!
  155. Dart2027
    Dart2027 31 January 2021 16: 28
    +1
    Quote: Thompson
    Soon it seems likely to wait from you- UNDERGE !!!

    ALREADY ONAZHANZHANA !!!
  156. kakvastam
    kakvastam 31 January 2021 17: 24
    0
    "By conscience" and "by concepts" are not exactly the same thing.

    Although legalism is a serious and incurable disease.
  157. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 31 January 2021 23: 17
    +1
    Quote: kakvastam
    "By conscience" and "by concepts" are not exactly the same thing.

    So I am in favor of conscience.
    Quote: kakvastam
    Although legalism is a serious and incurable disease.

    And what do you actually have against legalism? Fundamentally correct teaching. And the leaders of our country, under whom she achieved the greatest success - Peter I and Stalin - were spontaneous legists, although Peter hardly even heard of such a concept. Stalin may have been aware.
  158. kakvastam
    kakvastam 1 February 2021 14: 29
    0
    Law is an instrument, and by definition, secondary.
    It is only a way of codifying some social agreements, and it is simply stupid to consider it as an independent value.
  159. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 1 February 2021 07: 50
    0
    Quote: kakvastam
    Although legalism is a serious and incurable disease

    You seem to be confusing legalism with the Western idea of ​​"rule of law" and "rule of law." But these are two huge differences. Take a look at Wikipedia at least.
  160. kakvastam
    kakvastam 1 February 2021 14: 33
    0
    The legal society is a euphemism for the police state.
    And I don’t confuse anything, I just don’t like to put the cart in front of society.
  161. zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 22: 27
    0
    So you don't know what it means to live by the law.
  162. astepanov
    astepanov 31 January 2021 11: 46
    +2
    Quote: Narak-zempo
    And she - not by law, but by conscience - is entitled to a bullet.

    Public call for murder. What article is due for this?
  163. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 31 January 2021 12: 19
    0
    Quote: astepanov
    Public call for murder. What article is due for this?

    Minimum extremism. But here it will rather be "And what for me?"
  164. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 1 February 2021 07: 47
    0
    Quote: astepanov
    Public call for murder

    Have mercy, where did I call? It was only a value judgment, as it is fashionable to express it now.
  165. sniperino
    sniperino 31 January 2021 23: 04
    +3
    Quote: Narak-zempo
    ideological enemy
    This is not an idea, but genetics: "hereditary dissident".
  166. AUL
    AUL 31 January 2021 08: 03
    +3
    Quote: Tatiana
    On the other hand, it is known that in 2011-2017 Yudina and her children lived in Germany, where Yudina, according to her, earned money through transfers. Yudina, according to her, by her great-grandmother-Swiss, has German roots, so she knows German. Has no higher education ...
    You delved into the victim's personality in great detail (by the way, you did not find anything illegal). Why don't you do the same work with the policeman who hit her in violation of the police law? The video shows the situation very clearly! wassat
  167. clerk
    clerk 31 January 2021 08: 49
    +1
    The investigation and the court must decide whether it is extremely clear or extremely unclear. And by declaring a police officer a criminal without a court decision, you and your elders are defiantly violating the Russian Constitution.
  168. clerk
    clerk 31 January 2021 11: 21
    0
    Why do you need the details of a police officer's private life? To intimidate him by threats, bullying and violence against his parents, wife and children?
  169. AUL
    AUL 31 January 2021 14: 01
    +3
    And what was the point of bringing the details of the victim's life? Do they have anything to do with the policeman's act? And how legal is it in terms of disclosing information about a person's private life?
    To intimidate him by threats, bullying and violence against his parents, wife and children?
    Eco, my friend, you have a wild imagination! But I didn't suggest that. But since we analyzed one side so carefully, it would be logical to do the same with the other! Or not to do it at all from either side - it would be fair.
  170. parma
    parma 31 January 2021 11: 32
    -1
    Quote: Tatiana
    Quote: sergo1914
    Auntie, to put it mildly, weird. But even with a foot in this situation, it is not comme il faut to buy goods.

    Rita Yudina, 54, knocked down by a police boot, arrived at the rally on January 23 in St. Petersburg. specially from Luga. The media write a lot and different things about her and at the same time pay attention to the fact that not all ends meet in her stories.

    On the one hand, Yudina claims that she comes from a family of dissidents since 1917.
    On the other hand, it is known that in 2011-2017 Yudina and her children lived in Germany, there Yudina, according to her, earned by translations. Yudina, according to her, by her great-grandmother-Swiss, has German roots, so she knows German. Has no higher education.
    Now unemployed Yudina lives on the outskirts of the regional center Luga in a village house with sons of 20 and 25 years old, a 15-year-old daughter, a dog and cats. Yudina's family is registered as socially disadvantaged. Yudina's children are from different fathers, where their fathers are now, they do not know, Yudina also refuses to tell. The eldest sons are chronic diabetics and do not work. The eldest son was previously under investigation in a criminal case. The family's budget, according to Yudina, is 10 thousand rubles a month, they eat mostly potatoes and bread in the family. The situation in the Yudins' house, judging by the photo, is simply miserable. But! At the same time, a teenage daughter has the opportunity to receive distance education at a Dutch college. Yudina says her daughter is taught in Holland for freebut this information needs to be verified.
    More details: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/01/26/prava-yudinoy-kachayut-boris-vishnevskiy-i-igilovec-iz-novoy-gazety

    Earlier, when Yudina was still in the hospital, she publicly stated that she had forgiven the policeman, under whose hot hand she accidentally fell during the riots in St. Petersburg, which were staged by the navalnists on January 23. But less than three days later, Yudina announced that she wanted this guardian of order to be in the dock.
    Boris Vishnevsky, a deputy of the St. Petersburg Legislative Council from Yabloko, helped Yudina in drafting the claim and hiring lawyers. Denis Korotkov, a journalist from Novaya Gazeta, provides support to Yudina in the media. This is the same Korotkov whom the Federal News Agency (RIA FAN) demands to be punished as a war criminal for cooperation with ISIS. (prohibited in Russia).
    Yudina explained the change in her decision to petition a police officer to the liberal media that she has a personal account of the entire "police repressive system" in Russia.
    Yudina even delivered a public ultimatum: she will withdraw the lawsuit against the policeman if all political prisoners are released and pardoned in Russia... A political prisoner in the interpretation of the liberals is a broad concept, it includes national separatists, terrorists from organizations banned in Russia, saboteurs from Ukraine and the like.
    More details: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/01/26/prava-yudinoy-kachayut-boris-vishnevskiy-i-igilovec-iz-novoy-gazety

    Tatyana, again you (with a small one not a typo) advocate violation of the law by law enforcement officers ... but given your recent comments and desires, he needed to open fire to kill ...
  171. SARANCHA1976
    SARANCHA1976 1 February 2021 10: 46
    0
    Damn, well, finally, I've been waiting for the whole life of this lady to dig up and shake out the basket of dirty laundry. So I understand the task was not to dig and no one deliberately delved into it, it just somehow surfaced itself
  172. Tatyana
    Tatyana 30 January 2021 20: 50
    +6
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Quote: Tatiana
    Putin's confidant in the elections, former representative of the headquarters for coronavirus, doctor and TV presenter Alexander Myasnikov

    Do you think his titles justify police breaking the law?

    I consider the injured Margarita Yudina a politically anti-Russian and mindless PROVOCATOR!
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  174. Tatyana
    Tatyana 30 January 2021 20: 58
    0
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Quote: Tatiana
    I consider the injured Margarita Yudina a political, anti-Russian, mindless PROVOCATOR!

    I don't care who you think she is. The police officer violated the law - he must answer. All point. If she broke the law, let her answer.

    That's right! In court they will figure out why the hell she did not rush with her questions at the police at the wrong time!
    By the way, the policeman hit her not in the stomach, but in the leg, pushing her out of his way on the road. But she spanked decently.
  175. Pete mitchell
    Pete mitchell 31 January 2021 00: 05
    +1
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    don't care who you think she is. The police officer violated the law - must answer.
    Yes, no doubt, but there are nuances
    Quote: Tatiana
    The court will figure out why the hell she did not rush with her questions at the police in time.
    There is such a rule: do not throw the police / special forces / law enforcement on the neck until they are kicked into the reel - they are on adrenaline: they can react very harshly ..
    I hope the policeman will be acquitted, but the sediment will remain ...
  176. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 30 January 2021 23: 42
    -2
    She actually broke the law too) and not one. What do you think will have to answer her?)
  177. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 23: 44
    +3
    Quote: carstorm 11
    She actually broke the law too) and not one. What do you think will have to answer her?)

    Of course, let both of them answer.
  178. ZAV69
    ZAV69 31 January 2021 19: 03
    +3
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    The police officer violated the law - he must answer. All point.

    Police Prize Award, Law Change. To wipe the provocateurs into camp dust. And it's time for the state to adopt the experience of El Salvador, otherwise the clever guys are divorced to hell behind other people's backs
  179. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 30 January 2021 22: 10
    +10
    Quote: Tatiana
    I consider the injured Margarita Yudina a politically anti-Russian and mindless PROVOCATOR!

    That's lovely! In this case, I am a provacator, the brave policemen drew up a protocol against me that I entered the store without a mask. Although yesterday I looked, oops, a very nice comrade captain without a muzzle was buying groceries in the store.
  180. Tatyana
    Tatyana 30 January 2021 22: 25
    -8
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    Although yesterday I looked, oops, a very nice comrade captain without a muzzle was buying groceries in the store.

    That is why it is proposed to issue special passports to those vaccinated against Coronavirus-19 about their vaccination. In principle, the vaccinated no longer need masks. And the military, doctors, teachers are vaccinated in the first place.

    But in society, the unvaccinated at the same time have corresponding bewildered questions and discontent like yours regarding such a privilege for the vaccinated.

    So everything is clear with you - you are from the unvaccinated! yes
  181. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 30 January 2021 22: 34
    +8
    Quote: Tatiana
    In principle, the vaccinated no longer need masks.

    You don't have to lie then.
  182. Tatyana
    Tatyana 30 January 2021 22: 36
    -7
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: Tatiana
    In principle, the vaccinated no longer need masks.
    You don't have to lie then.

    Ha! As they say, for what I bought - for what I sell! lol

    By the way. I didn't put a minus on you - it's not mine! drinks
  183. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 30 January 2021 22: 42
    +8
    Quote: Tatiana
    For what I bought - for what I sell!

    In the last 2 weeks we have some kind of chaos with these masks going on. Yesterday I was standing at a bus stop, policeman what kind of grandmother I dragged into the police station without a mask. It seems that their plan has been increased a couple of times. They run to the shops, catch violators. Then they will receive the prize.
  184. Tatyana
    Tatyana 30 January 2021 22: 49
    -6
    We had this in St. Petersburg at first - last spring - it was. A scandal erupted with the detention of one granny in the street, who was forced to go to the pharmacy for medicine and was already walking back. Passers-by filmed the entire detention on video, reported it to the media - and the madness on the part of the police stopped.
  185. aleks26
    aleks26 31 January 2021 13: 07
    0
    Quote: Tatiana
    A scandal erupted with the detention of one granny on the street, who was forced to go to the pharmacy for medicine and was already walking back. Passers-by filmed the entire detention on video, reported it to the media - and the madness on the part of the police stopped.

    And the number of people infected with covid has increased dramatically. Well, yes, but the mask does not interfere with breathing the air of freedom!
  186. sniperino
    sniperino 31 January 2021 07: 23
    0
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    Yesterday I was standing at a bus stop, policeman what kind of grandmother I dragged into the police station without a mask. It seems that their plan has been increased a couple of times.
    You yourself are carrying out someone's plan for pouring out information on the police.
  187. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 30 January 2021 22: 50
    -17%
    You stole my childhood in the 90s, Mordvin ...
    I will steal your calm old age ...
  188. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 30 January 2021 22: 53
    +9
    Quote: Tank jacket
    You stole my childhood, Mordvin ...

    At what kind of drinking?
  189. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 30 January 2021 22: 55
    -16%
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: Tank jacket
    You stole my childhood, Mordvin ...

    At what kind of drinking?

    Your generation pro ... lost the USSR ...
    I was 1991 years old in 11 ...
    So don't blame me ...
  190. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 30 January 2021 23: 11
    +9
    Quote: Tank jacket
    Your generation lost the USSR ...

    I think, yes. We didn’t care what was going on the TV behind Swan Lake. Personally, at that time I was soldering a computer Spectrum to Horizon, seeing off my brother to the Urals, I saw a crowd of 15 people with a poster "Down with the Emergency Committee", among whom was my former classmate. Now he works as a watchman for 15 thousand, and you can ask, like: well, Roma, got it?
  191. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 30 January 2021 23: 15
    -16%
    Do not be offended, Mordvin, when your friends from the 90s sit down. This is our revenge for the chaos that you did ...
    I'm not vindictive, just evil and my memory is good ...
  192. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 30 January 2021 23: 22
    +16
    Quote: Tank jacket
    Do not be offended, Mordvin, when your friends from the 90s sit down.

    Don't be offended, you stupid person, but my friends and I mostly worked at the enterprise. And they paid taxes so that you, a miracle in feathers, would grow up somehow. It can be seen that something happened.
  193. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 30 January 2021 23: 10
    -18%
    Mordvin ... Now you want to steal childhood from my son? We are stupidly tired of you already ...
  194. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 30 January 2021 23: 16
    +13
    Quote: Tank jacket
    Now you want to steal childhood from my son?

    No one will reject childhood, do not worry. And anyway .... Who do you represent me, your mother? A sort of Karabas Barabas, or what?
  195. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 30 January 2021 23: 21
    -17%
    No, you are now pathetic belly ... But the terms will be soldered to you without statute of limitations. For you have done horrible things without a statute of limitations. And the first to sit in Tagil ... for covering up ethnic groupings ...
  196. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 30 January 2021 23: 25
    +9
    Quote: Tank jacket
    For you have done horrible things without a statute of limitations.

    He pointed his finger in the wrong direction.
  197. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 30 January 2021 23: 30
    -15%
    Write in a personal, about your brothers from the 90s if you want indulgence ...
    Paraparapam shiu ...
  198. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 30 January 2021 23: 33
    +13
    Quote: Tank jacket
    if you want indulgence ...

    Fuck you around the torn corner, where they sell tomatoes. Demand condescension from Chubais with Putin.
  199. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 30 January 2021 23: 37
    -8
    Accepted...
  200. saigon
    saigon 31 January 2021 12: 08
    +2
    Masks are needed not to infect others, the mask will not protect itself from infection.
    Let's say the mask reduces the spread of the infection.
    And a little is not clear about the privileges for the vaccinated, that a 100% guarantee takes place
    to be ?
    Personally, I will be bothered by a guy without a mask and a piece of paper in his back pocket about vaccinations. No one puts a stamp on his forehead.
    So for now, everyone has to wear and wear masks.
  201. kakvastam
    kakvastam 31 January 2021 17: 30
    +1
    Not entirely correct.
    A vaccinated citizen can be the reason for the infection of others if the virus enters the nasopharynx and manages to multiply before they come for him. So it's better to wear masks, and there will be fewer questions.
  202. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 30 January 2021 23: 44
    -11%
    Someone is stopping you from filming it on the phone and submitting an application to the prosecutor's office?) Ask your name and title? What is your civic position for?
  203. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 30 January 2021 23: 57
    +3
    Quote: carstorm 11
    Someone is stopping you from filming it on your phone and submitting an application to the prosecutor's office?)

    I have never been a snitch and I will not. Clear?
  204. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 31 January 2021 00: 00
    -5
    Ha) well then, do not be surprised that everything around you is violated. You demand something from some while you yourself do not want to do anything. Everything as usual.
  205. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 31 January 2021 00: 05
    +4
    Quote: carstorm 11
    You demand something from some while you yourself do not want to do anything. Everything as usual.

    And not on demand, in good faith? And, well, you huckster, what conscience is, I suppose you have long forgotten. Or cornered.
  206. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 31 January 2021 00: 08
    -4
    I’m not a huckster, but a hired worker about which I already told you 5 times. The conscience in me is all right. You are a boor, but do you think you have a conscience?) Shapito
  207. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 31 January 2021 00: 13
    +1
    Quote: carstorm 11
    The conscience in me is all right

    Lying, in my opinion. Does your wife work in a paid clinic?
  208. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 31 January 2021 00: 15
    -5
    in a private clinic. This is true. Her specialization is not practiced in ordinary people.
  209. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 31 January 2021 00: 19
    +3
    Quote: carstorm 11
    in a private clinic. This is true.

    Uh-huh. And my sister, as she ran back in the USSR, gave injections, and now runs. It is not clear why.
  210. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 31 January 2021 00: 27
    -7
    Everyone chooses who to be. Nobody bothers your sister to study and become the one who does not run. Mine grew up without a father. She has learned and is still studying. He does not travel abroad for seminars and conferences. Respected in her field. After the first marriage, one pulled her son but did not give up.
  211. Fan-fan
    Fan-fan 31 January 2021 09: 53
    +2
    Well, everything is clear with you: you settled down sweetly in this life and wanted to spit on everyone who could not
    He does not travel abroad for seminars and conferences.
    Not everyone travels abroad, some need to run around and give injections to non-ambulant patients.
  212. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 31 January 2021 10: 09
    -8
    awesome) can you hear yourself sometimes? Settled up? Through work they achieved their goal. Through study. And as for the foreign countries, in its area everything is the most advanced there. So they invite me. Those who could not? This is our fault or what? Spit? You know, yes. I have three daughters. I have someone to care about
  213. mole
    mole 30 January 2021 23: 29
    -1
    Quote: Tatiana

    I consider the injured Margarita Yudina a politically anti-Russian and mindless PROVOCATOR!

    I join, Tatiana!
  214. Fan-fan
    Fan-fan 31 January 2021 09: 59
    +3
    You think so, but we are different: the provocateurs are those who took the people's pensions, those who conduct such a policy that factories, settlements and the population itself disappear. Here's a concrete example:
    Rosstat data:
    1. There were 1990 hospitals in the RSFSR in 12800
    Now there are 5900 hospitals, 6900 closed, and 2100 hospitals were closed under Yeltsin, 4800 hospitals were closed under Putin
    2. In the RSFSR in 1990 there were 21500 polyclinics
    Now there are 16500 polyclinics, 5000 were closed, and 200 hospitals were closed under Yeltsin, 4800 polyclinics were closed under Putin
  215. mole
    mole 31 January 2021 18: 40
    0
    Quote: Fan-Fan
    You think so, but we are different: the provocateurs are those who took the people's pensions, those who conduct such a policy that factories, settlements and the population itself disappear. Here's a concrete example:
    Rosstat data:
    1. There were 1990 hospitals in the RSFSR in 12800
    Now there are 5900 hospitals, 6900 closed, and 2100 hospitals were closed under Yeltsin, 4800 hospitals were closed under Putin
    2. In the RSFSR in 1990 there were 21500 polyclinics
    Now there are 16500 polyclinics, 5000 were closed, and 200 hospitals were closed under Yeltsin, 4800 polyclinics were closed under Putin

    Are you outraged by Putin or admired by Navalny ???
    The Wood Vendor has no program. Only criticism based on compromising evidence from the intelligence services of other states. Do you think Navalny gets these materials so simply or for "buns" ???? Ideological fighter ??
  216. saigon
    saigon 31 January 2021 12: 01
    +1
    Well, that she is a provocateur to hell with her, but then how to call the chela who, together with her, participated in the creation of the picture?
    But the chain of actions led to the kick, and these two people are the last links in it. Let's try to understand why the horseradish vegetable was to screw Lesha in the port?
    It was easier to summon a little later with a summons and arrest them calmly, but someone gave the order to screw them in the port (a very smart and urgently needed action both in time and place).
    Is it difficult to calculate that Leshkinsky's supporters are a little, how to put it mildly, are easily faithful among the masses and extremely excitable, it was difficult to imagine provocations?
    And you know, I have suspicions that it was the suspicion that the madam was deliberately brought out to the guy (the overwhelming majority of the employees bypassed, pushed aside, pushed away with their hand, that's what confuses me in the situation).
  217. clerk
    clerk 31 January 2021 02: 16
    -1
    I missed something and there was already a court decision on violation by the police
    Law?
  218. krot
    krot 1 February 2021 08: 56
    -1
    1. State structures view this case as an attack on a government official: the actions of the police officer are recognized as correct, and the attacker is condemned to the fullest extent of the Law.

    This is the most correct option. For two policemen were leading the detainee who resisted and their hands were busy. They are taught wrestling techniques with both legs and arms and head .. And anyone who tried to interfere with the arrest became an accomplice. And you need to apply special means and techniques to it. And since we have equal men and women, on democratic grounds, then a kick in the stomach of this aunt is fair! It could have been stronger!
  219. SOF
    SOF 1 February 2021 09: 19
    0
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Do you think his titles justify police breaking the law?

    .... stop pulling the owl on the globe .... not a damn thing this policeman has violated ..... all these postulates from the law on the police, so carefully laid out by you, here and now, relate to ordinary service, in normal conditions and in the absence of a flock, they are inadequate ........ BUT ...... there are other instructions on the subject of riots .... (amendments to the law on police google) ............ no one will be, personally in front of you, when you are in a crowd, bowing in obeisances ..... if your neighbor, in the crowd ..... pshyknul gas from a spray ........... they will sell you too ..... and a neighbor ...... and an overbearing fool, in a skirt ...... although this is already the taste of an employee ......
  220. New Year day
    New Year day 30 January 2021 21: 35
    +5
    Quote: Tatiana
    Although Myasnikov's position on this issue is simple and understandable to many, public opinion was still divided. And all would be nothing.

    do not look or listen to this "doctor"! This is what I tell you as a medic
  221. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 21: 47
    +2
    hi
    Quote: Silvestr
    do not look or listen to this "doctor"! This is what I tell you as a medic

    Please tell me, as a medic, can you listen to any of the "teledoctors"? We once laughed great with "doctor" Malakhov. The contingent was very specific (convicts), therefore, with his urinotherapy, he "came in" as well as possible.
  222. New Year day
    New Year day 30 January 2021 22: 22
    +15
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Please tell me, as a medic, can you listen to any of the "teledoctors"?

    from the box, no one. Malysheva, gathering audiences, forms a flow of patients to her clinics, in which non-certified specialists work.
    Myasnikov, I don’t know what kind of head physician he is, but in his wording he expresses this that the question arises - where did he get the diploma?
    In fact, they are talking the heads of the authorities to shit the brains of the population.
  223. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 30 January 2021 22: 51
    -17%
    You stole my childhood in the 90s, Sylvester ...
    I will steal your calm old age ...
  224. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 30 January 2021 23: 48
    -5
    Well, he's kind of a man in the first place. Secondly, a citizen of the Russian Federation. Has his own opinion on this issue. As you are yours. And what kind of doctor he is now does not matter at all)
  225. for
    for 31 January 2021 15: 57
    0
    Quote: carstorm 11
    your opinion

    Let him speak in the kitchen, during polls or here.
  226. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 30 January 2021 21: 47
    +10
    Quote: Tatiana
    with the condition to release Navalny and all his gang.

    the term Tolerance, in my native virology, implies the absence of an immune response. In sociology, this term is translated as tolerance. But infectious agents multiply without hindrance in a tolerant organism.
    Rosgvardia, by analogy with the body, has an immune system, and if we tolerate it, what will happen?
    On the other hand, there is a lack of trust in the government and the political system in society. But in any case, throwing yourself at the police is not correct.
  227. Tatyana
    Tatyana 30 January 2021 22: 00
    +1
    Quote: aybolyt678
    there is a lack of trust in the government and the political system in society. But in any case, throwing yourself at the police is not correct.
    That's right!

    However, Navalny and his "navalnyats" together with Khodorkovsky, "Echo of Moscow", "Dozhm", "Yeltsin Center", the US embassy and others just want them to be allowed everything in the country! So that for them in a special way, laxative - i.e. tolerantly tolerant and not subject to jurisdiction - the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation acted!
    This is exactly what they are trying to achieve with their politically pro-Western extremism at the protests - and not at all peaceful - in the Russian Federation on their part!
  228. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 31 January 2021 00: 00
    +9
    Quote: Tatiana
    "Yeltsin Center"

    Take it easy. As far as I understand, the Presidential Legacy Centers will be installed for everyone. Presidents.
  229. Fan-fan
    Fan-fan 31 January 2021 10: 03
    0
    What if a police officer breaks the law? Silence and endure? So we get a completely brutal and corrupt state.
  230. Dart2027
    Dart2027 31 January 2021 12: 06
    -1
    Quote: Fan-Fan
    What if a police officer breaks the law?

    A police officer is detaining him, and some woman is trying to stop him.
  231. IImonolitII
    IImonolitII 31 January 2021 11: 08
    +2
    The immune system is the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and the National Guard is a cancerous tumor - another way to spend money on a tool of oppression and salaries of officials instead of hospitals, schools, pensions, social housing.
  • hohkn
    hohkn 31 January 2021 19: 41
    +2
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Article 19. Procedure for the use of physical force, special means and firearms
    item 1, item 3, item 4. It's minimum.

    Point 1 immediately flies like plywood over Paris, because clause 2, which excluded it, acted here. Clause 3 is also in the span, since for some reason everyone thinks (they are already excitedly telling) that the blow was in the stomach (what a nightmare, how can a living person and in the stomach be!). In fact (this can be clearly seen in slow motion) the blow was in the upper front part of the thigh.
    Neither you nor I, no one else can judge the fulfillment of point 4, because the video is cut off. It is not customary for the opposition to film what is in favor of the police.
    And yes, I wrote enough about the use of weapons, special equipment and physical force (with serious consequences - until the spleen ruptured), so I know the subject firsthand.
  • Oleg Monarchist
    Oleg Monarchist 3 February 2021 10: 33
    0
    aleksejkabanets (Alexey)

    The policeman violated several articles of the "Police Law".
    Article 19. Procedure for the use of physical force, special means and firearms
    item 1, item 3, item 4. It's minimum.
    Described, one article, several points.

    Or can haste and fuss justify any wrongdoing? Are they imprisoned for exceeding self-defense?


    Why didn't you cite article 20 as an example? Not mastered? Or is it because it is very uncomfortable?

    Article 20. Use of physical force

    1. A police officer has the right personally or as part of a unit (group) to use physical force, including fighting techniques, if non-force methods do not ensure the fulfillment of the duties assigned to the police, in the following cases:
    1) for the suppression of crimes and administrative offenses; (Madame committed an administrative offense while at an unauthorized rally)
    3) to overcome opposition to the legal requirements of a police officer.

    And by the way, read the comments on the article. 20. Clause 5 of the commentary reads: The actions of a police officer do not exceed the limits of necessary defense if, due to the unexpectedness of the encroachment, he could not objectively assess the degree and nature of the danger of the attack.

    Educate yourself young man !!! laughing
  • AUL
    AUL 31 January 2021 07: 52
    0
    Quote: ccsr
    ... But besides the laws, there are also instructions according to which they act in real situations. Moreover, there is also a briefing before taking over the duty.

    How cute! The instruction, which nobody knows who came up with, is more important than the law! And, even more so, oral instructions before taking over the duty! So don't give a damn about any laws!
  • Revival
    Revival 1 February 2021 04: 18
    +1
    Oh, a nervous breakdown? Tell me, does he justify the beatings and murders?
  • AndreyS
    AndreyS 1 February 2021 08: 40
    +2
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    At one time, I found an opportunity to think about what can and cannot be done. Otherwise they would have been imprisoned or killed. The policeman violated several articles of the "Police Law".

    Yes. You are right dear. Not really) The employee did not violate any article of the Police Law. Because, in accordance with the Police Law, everything looks exactly like this:
    "...Article 19. Procedure for the use of physical force, special means and firearms, clause 2. A police officer has the right not to warn about his intention to use physical force, special means or firearms if the delay in their use creates an immediate threat to the life and health of a citizen or a police officer or may entail other grave consequences.... "The curtain is respected.
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 1 February 2021 10: 18
      -4
      Quote: AndreyS
      ... if the delay in their application creates an immediate threat to the life and health of a citizen or a police officer, or may entail other grave consequences ...

      Where did you find the "threat to life and health" here? Where did you find "other grave consequences" here? The 2nd paragraph of the 19th article cannot be applied in any way.
      1. AndreyS
        AndreyS 1 February 2021 16: 43
        +1
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Quote: AndreyS
        ... if the delay in their application creates an immediate threat to the life and health of a citizen or a police officer, or may entail other grave consequences ...

        Where did you find the "threat to life and health" here? Where did you find "other grave consequences" here? The 2nd paragraph of the 19th article cannot be applied in any way.

        And where did you not find the dear? Have you seen this employee's report of what happened? Are you aware of the crime situation and information known to employees about possible incidents? Are you aware of the instructions received by the employees? Not. It means that you all the more have no right to talk about violations of laws by an employee.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 1 February 2021 16: 55
          -3
          Quote: AndreyS
          This means that you all the more have no right to talk about violations of laws by an employee.

          That is, according to your logic, if a policeman hits someone with an ax on the camera, I will have to wait for his report?
        2. Dart2027
          Dart2027 1 February 2021 20: 10
          +2
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          if the policeman hits someone with an ax on the camera, I will have to wait for his report

          That is, if the same woman attacks a police officer with an ax, he will have to wait until she hits him and only then defend himself?
        3. AndreyS
          AndreyS 1 February 2021 20: 50
          +1
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Quote: AndreyS
          This means that you all the more have no right to talk about violations of laws by an employee.

          That is, according to your logic, if a policeman hits someone with an ax on the camera, I will have to wait for his report?

          Exactly! This is what the law you are promoting says. Or does the law only work in one direction?
  • Vol4ara
    Vol4ara 30 January 2021 18: 00
    -4

    Vasya carry the machine gun, you know that:


    Quote: ccsr
    inaction in places of mass disturbances can result in even greater human casualties, if only not to suppress any opposition to law enforcement agencies.



  • VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
    VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 31 January 2021 07: 07
    +3
    Having come to the street during a non-illegal rally, the grandmother has already committed an offense!
  • Igoresha
    Igoresha 31 January 2021 21: 45
    0
    And the National Guard is not her accomplice by any chance?
    the conspiracy theory blooms and smells, but at the beginning of the Maidan coup 2.0 it was the same - the Crimean "Berkut" flew into the protesters' camp in the middle of the night and let's beat the "children" with truncheons (40 UAH / stand, which the injured girl blabbed about at the trial) straight on video cameras of the Inter channel.
    After the victory of Maidan2.0, there was a dispersal of especially principled Maidanites who decided to disobey the command to close the shop - at night and "titushki", this time there were no TV cameras, one pitiful shooting from the phone.
    On the topic of the article, one can only say - the Russian gentlemen, high-ranking officers are true to themselves - the Rosguards were handed over with giblets, as many Riga riot policemen were earlier to Lithuania, as militias to Ukraine.
  • tolancop
    tolancop 1 February 2021 16: 02
    +3
    The Russian Guard kicked this one .... (I don't even know what to call it) and did the right thing. What this aunt, who stood in the way of the policeman leading the detainee, has no idea in advance. The serviceman has no time to solve these puzzles. Maybe she wanted to present a bouquet, or maybe sprinkle in her face from a spray can ..... THAT "she wanted to ask why she was detained ..." - fairy tales in favor of the poor. The lawyer was found .... I got in the way and got it. I would have picked up an article for her in the Administrative Offenses Code or the Criminal Code, something like an "obstacle to activity." And I agree that the servant was sent to apologize by the worn out bosses. Instead of the National Guard, it was necessary to send an interrogator to his aunt to receive explanations (interrogation). It would be much more helpful.
  • Svarog
    Svarog 30 January 2021 17: 30
    -8
    Quote: ccsr
    And if it was a woman

    What if she had a member? Hallucinations are a favorite of the confused.
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 30 January 2021 18: 38
      +5
      Quote: Svarog
      What if she had a member?

      Is this a sore subject for you?
    2. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 30 January 2021 19: 51
      -9
      Ashley Bybbbitt was beautiful ...



      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 30 January 2021 20: 08
        -4

        She was shot by a Negro police officer from the SS ...
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 30 January 2021 20: 43
          -5
          Quote: Tank jacket
          She was shot by a Negro police officer from the SS ...
          You would not confuse horseradish (plant) with a finger. The Capitol was seized by armed people, there was an absolutely peaceful woman who came out to meet with a question. It could be bypassed. But for all this, she received a powerful low kick from a stacillogromous hulk. Which salary receives from this woman's taxes as well.
          Further - the author writes that the woman changed her mind, reconciles, and wrote a complaint to the UK. The author needs to read the Criminal Code at his leisure, because harm to health of moderate severity definitely entails the excitation of UD, and reconciliation of the parties under this article is not possible.
          Police for all defenders - do you want double standards of law enforcement?
          1. Tank jacket
            Tank jacket 30 January 2021 20: 47
            -10%
            Gardamir, will you betray a gang of liberals in time, or like everyone else to Mordovia (or to # 13 in Tagil?) ...
            So on the 13th. Chairs made of birch are planed there of high quality ... At my dacha there are such ...
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 30 January 2021 23: 37
              +7
              Quote: Tank jacket
              Chairs made of birch are planed there of high quality ... At my dacha there are such ...

              Turner, or what?
              1. Tank jacket
                Tank jacket 30 January 2021 23: 40
                -13%
                As a check-in, you are first on the list for questioning ... wassat Paraparapam ...
              2. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 30 January 2021 23: 46
                +8
                Quote: Tank jacket
                You're first on the interrogation list ...

                Will there be an interrogation with a lie detector? Or, as usual, with an elephant and a code in the head? No, I won't. Such guests did not bother me, go back.
            2. Tank jacket
              Tank jacket 30 January 2021 23: 46
              -11%
              You ought to work as an opera, father. You wouldn't have a price. Didn't he serve Kolchak in his younger years? No? Counterintelligence? Honestly. Well, why were we so immediately embarrassed? Well, into my eyes, into my eyes! In difficult years, did you steal spikelets from collective farm fields? "(C)
            3. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 30 January 2021 23: 48
              +5
              Quote: Tank jacket
              In difficult years, did you steal spikelets from collective farm fields? "(C)

              I had a letter. Honorable!
            4. Tank jacket
              Tank jacket 30 January 2021 23: 51
              -10%
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              collective farm

              Do you hand over your hucksters' friends from the 90s or not?
            5. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 31 January 2021 00: 10
              +5
              Quote: Tank jacket
              Do you hand over your hucksters' friends from the 90s or not?

              I received so much at the factory in the 90s that I did not care about the huckster. So I don’t rent anyone, go look for clowns under the bushes.
            6. Tank jacket
              Tank jacket 31 January 2021 00: 18
              -9
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              Quote: Tank jacket
              Do you hand over your hucksters' friends from the 90s or not?

              I received so much at the factory in the 90s that I did not care about the huckster. So I don’t rent anyone, go look for clowns under the bushes.

              In the testimony you are confused ... To pick up old folders in the Sverdlovsk region? According to Karo? Fartun? For Carp? Herat Ural?
            7. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 31 January 2021 00: 21
              +3
              Quote: Tank jacket
              Raise old folders in the Sverdlovsk region? According to Karo? Fartun? For Carp?

              Lift up Gene-Herat.
  • zenion
    zenion 30 January 2021 21: 22
    0
    Ingvar 72. Would she throw herself under the truck? Why the hell did she go out on the road that the arrested person is taking? Isn't it a lot of bullshit to bypass a bad woman, and if she has a knife in her hands and she wanted to kill the prisoner. Did she come out to ask? Please tell me how to get to the library?
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 30 January 2021 22: 08
      +1
      Quote: zenion
      Why the hell did she go out on the road that the arrested person is taking?

      Is there martial law in the city? belay They told the detainee for an administrative violation. If you do not see the difference now, at most you will see it in the fall.
      Although I hope it will not come to this, and we will see the revolution from above.
      1. zenion
        zenion 30 January 2021 22: 30
        -5
        Didn't she want to stab the arrested person, or free him? This is certainly not a war. This is not a war, a football player runs with the ball to the opponent's goal, and then a fan jumps out in front of him and asks him if you will hit the goal, or you will pass it to someone. What would a player with the ball do to such a fan? Now you can answer, what would the royal cossack do to her if she jumped out in front of his horse? Ah, you know, a peaceful demonstration, priest Gapon, machine guns and checkers. But this is not a war ?!
      2. Dart2027
        Dart2027 31 January 2021 06: 34
        -6
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        They told the detainee for an administrative violation. If you do not see the difference now, at most you will see it in the fall.

        So what's the difference?
      3. IImonolitII
        IImonolitII 31 January 2021 11: 14
        0
        In the legal status and lawfulness of the use of force, those arrested are limited in their rights by the decision of the court or the investigator in the framework of the initiated case.
      4. Dart2027
        Dart2027 31 January 2021 11: 55
        -1
        Quote: IImonolitII
        those arrested are restricted in their rights by a court or investigator's decision within the framework of an initiated case

        That is, until a person is convicted in court, he cannot be detained? Hmm ...
    2. zenion
      zenion 31 January 2021 16: 11
      0
      At what time the bulkheads flew in and chopped us with checkers into a steak, or maybe into cutlets. And these are all the same who are for democracy, but only them, the rest it does not bite.
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 30 January 2021 21: 31
    -4
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    The Capitol was seized by armed people, there was an absolutely peaceful woman who came out to meet with a question.

    For the umpteenth time, "peaceful demonstrations".
    1. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 31 January 2021 10: 11
      +2
      According to Article 31 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, citizens of the Russian Federation have the right to assemble peacefully, without weapons, to hold meetings, rallies and demonstrations, processions and pickets ...
      Then remove this article from the Constitution.
  • Wertgan
    Wertgan 30 January 2021 22: 32
    +2
    Ambal was on duty in the first place and carried out the arrest, secondly. In the United States, such a lady would simply be shot on the spot. Moreover, it is quite obvious that the lady was not alone. With at least one accomplice - the operator. Her actions were prepared and planned in advance. That is, it is a provocation. Banal. Now, attention! Did you think that people went to the unauthorized rally just for a walk? Of course not. They went out to participate in such provocations. And more attention. Do you think that this provocation ends? Of course not. The Ukrainian experience teaches us that then "unknown snipers" appear and then victims. So that this does not happen, the representative of the authorities uses decisive force. And as a representative of the authorities, he has the right to do so.
  • carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 30 January 2021 23: 51
    -4
    Where does it say that she is not armed?) How can an employee determine this?) X-ray glasses?)
    1. AUL
      AUL 31 January 2021 08: 38
      +6
      And when you go out into the street, where do you write that you are not armed? Oh, don't you write at all? Well, get it in your belly! From a law enforcement officer!
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 31 January 2021 09: 24
        -7
        she was peacefully gklyaetsya in the leg on the street and not kicked in the stomach?)))
    2. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 31 January 2021 10: 13
      +1
      Well then, urine everyone in a row, suddenly everyone is armed.
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 31 January 2021 11: 25
        -3
        So what? The Polivnians are wetting the dead on the street, who is just walking?) I didn't notice. And if you go initially to violate the law, then why be surprised, then so it flew in?) You will not understand that even here on the branch 90 percent of people at least do not condemn the representatives of the law)
  • astepanov
    astepanov 30 January 2021 21: 02
    -4
    Have you gone crazy with the author? I have no words - the woman DIDN'T ATTACK the policeman, she didn’t even swing at him - and was kicked in the stomach. The policeman acted like a real man - he went to her and apologized. The work is nervous, which cannot be done in the heat of the moment ... But the author, Mr. Bondarev, compares this woman with Tonka machine gunner! Now this is already completely subject to jurisdiction, since he did it publicly. Mr. Bondarev probably believes that going to meet a servant of the law and shooting thousands of unarmed people are one and the same thing. Let me also remind Mr. Bondarev (quite deliberately I write with a capital letter) that in the traditions of our culture it has always been to treat women, old people and children with indulgence, and this has nothing to do with Western tolerance and in Mr. Bondarev's interpretation. I don't think that Herr Bondarev is so stupid that he doesn't understand this. And if he understands, then his libel is a deliberate and deliberate provocation. On which, alas, many fell for.
    1. zenion
      zenion 30 January 2021 21: 27
      -5
      Or maybe Tonka did not fire in bursts, but at each one separately, then how? How much do you want to translate this matter into the fact that she was already modern Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya? She stood aside, and he chose her and punched her in the stomach and she lost the child, or the mind? What can you say about the act of this woman, she did everything right, or was it a provocation on her part.
      1. astepanov
        astepanov 30 January 2021 21: 37
        +3
        Quote: zenion
        How much do you want to translate this matter into the fact that she was already the modern Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya? She stood aside, and he chose her and punched her in the stomach and she lost her child, or her mind?
        About Kosmodemyanskaya the conversation was raised by you, not me. And you seem to see only two options - either Kosmodemyanskaya or Tonka the machine gunner. Primitive, my friend. In your opinion, to punch in the stomach without choosing, but only because she turned up under her foot - does this greatly change the matter? You say you haven't lost your child, you haven't blown your brains out, and that's why there is no question? You will tell your wife this when she is sent to the hospital and she asks you to intercede. I do not see you, sir, from now on point-blank: you are not a man, but something amorphous
        1. Wertgan
          Wertgan 30 January 2021 22: 36
          -3
          It is quite obvious that the lady was not alone, but with an accomplice - the operator. That they were prepared and planned the action in advance. It can be seen that she received a blow not in the stomach, but in the thigh.
    2. Dart2027
      Dart2027 30 January 2021 21: 32
      0
      Quote: astepanov
      Let me also remind Mr. Bondarev (I am quite deliberately writing with a capital letter) that in the traditions of our culture it has always been to treat with indulgence women, old people and children,

      That is, they have an indulgence?
      1. astepanov
        astepanov 30 January 2021 21: 56
        +1
        Quote: Dart2027
        That is, they have an indulgence?
        If you ask such a question, then it is useless to explain: the problem is that you are from a different culture. But think at least of this: a policeman kicked a woman in the stomach who showed no signs of aggression and did not interfere with him in anything. And how could she interfere with THREE policemen? Aren't you afraid that this means that a representative of the authorities can do whatever he wants with you, wherever and whenever he wants - and he will get nothing for it?
        1. Wertgan
          Wertgan 30 January 2021 22: 38
          -2
          How is it "no sign"? On the contrary, she literally lashed out at the employee in execution. How to evaluate her actions? Or maybe she was mined? Thousands more reasons. The employee reacted correctly.
        2. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 30 January 2021 23: 54
          -3
          To stab with a knife. Pour acid. Blow up the martyr's belt. Each of the options and many others are not just possible. This happens to police officers from time to time around the world.
        3. Dart2027
          Dart2027 31 January 2021 06: 37
          -7
          Quote: astepanov
          If you ask such a question, then it is useless to explain: the problem is that you are from a different culture.

          That is, there is nothing to answer.
          Quote: astepanov
          But think about this: a policeman kicked a woman in the stomach.

          Which participated in the street riots and herself crawled under the feet of the employees during execution.
          Quote: astepanov
          Are you not afraid that this means that a government official can do anything with you, anywhere, anytime - and

          I have been hearing this whining for years. Here is only the whole historical experience says that just such as this woman and her masters do.
    3. zenion
      zenion 31 January 2021 17: 34
      -2
      You got a little wrong with the numbers. Now everything is not the same, and women clinging explosives to their stomachs and women who kill their husbands, or simply because she offered herself to someone, but he did not want to, also shoot. The timing is not right. The person walking with those who arrested him is the person for whom they are responsible. If someone stabs him with a knife, or kicks him in the balls and he loses the opportunity to have children, who will be responsible for him. They protected him from her. Nefic cross the road in front of the car and in front of the convoy. In the States, if his hands are busy, he would give with all his heart, and she would be thrown away.
  • aglet
    aglet 31 January 2021 09: 37
    +1
    "And if this woman specifically wanted to arrange a provocation and cook something (acid for example)"
    I did not cook, but I got it professionally from my feet. and some kind of strange "attack", just got in the way of the "defender"
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 31 January 2021 12: 07
      -2
      Quote: aglet
      I did not cook, but I got it professionally from my feet.

      What I fought for.
  • Jager
    Jager 1 February 2021 07: 17
    0
    Lights, camera, let's start!
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 30 January 2021 18: 11
    +6
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Poor policeman, how bravely he defended himself. Barely fought back, sick.

    The usual tactic of "color revolutionaries" is to put women, preferably the elderly, in front of the protesting crowd, and trained fighters dispersed in the crowd. All this has been tested for a long time, I personally know it from the events in Bishkek in 2005 (the "tulip" revolution). Very much approved by the US State Department. wink
    1. Alexander Suvorov
      Alexander Suvorov 30 January 2021 18: 21
      +10
      So they specifically choose either women or children, but I have a question, does this type of aunt have brains? And where were the brains of the mother who flooded with the stroller to the rally?
      If there was a real child in the stroller and not a dummy, then at the place of custody I would take care of depriving such a mother of parental rights, who risks the life of her child. Or was there no child after all?
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 30 January 2021 18: 26
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Suvorov
        So they specifically choose either women or children, but I have a question, does this type of aunt have brains?

        In Bishkek, these were pre-trained and paid female individuals. First, they swept away the special forces and dispersed the law enforcement officers in the city, then trained and armed militants entered Bishkek, then looters began to rage. This cannot be allowed in Russia. IMHO.
  • venik
    venik 30 January 2021 21: 32
    0
    aleksejkabanets
    ======
    Terribly interesting, but HOW would you "defend" not his place?
    Only, God forbid, do not try to assure me that neither a hand nor a leg was raised "on a woman" !!!
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 30 January 2021 21: 40
      -1
      Quote: venik
      Terribly interesting, but HOW would you "defend" not in his place?

      No way. He is for the revolution.
  • Dart
    Dart 31 January 2021 15: 14
    -1
    For some reason, no one is considering the third option, only as the author said ..
    and if the law enforcement officer is punished for an excessive reaction, and the aunt is also brought to justice ...
  • zenion
    zenion 31 January 2021 21: 16
    +1
    aleksejkabanets. He hit her with the toe of his boot? No, he pushed her away. He was not defending himself, but the detainee. His life should be guarded by those who accompanied him, they are responsible for him. She flew away from the detainee. If he had hit her with the toe of his shoe, she would have doubled over, and would have straightened her in the morgue.
  • Svarog
    Svarog 30 January 2021 17: 29
    -6
    Quote: Michael m
    Permissible self-defense is also not comme il faut. When the attacker, having received a pumpkin, runs to court, and the victim of the attack is imprisoned. Do not meddle with a representative of the authorities, and you will not be rewarded as you deserve.

    And where did she climb? She was unarmed and went to the meeting .. for no reason, she got May-geri right in the stomach .. Absolutely, in this situation, a policeman's attack was not appropriate .. He needs to check his head ..
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 30 January 2021 18: 40
      +1
      Quote: Svarog
      And where did she climb?

      Participate in street riots.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 31 January 2021 15: 21
        -1
        Quote: Dart2027
        Quote: Svarog
        And where did she climb?

        Participate in street riots.

        And in this case, with filming on the camera. After all, in the video, she looked back several times at the operator who was behind her and only then moved onto the roadway across the policemen just when the operator took a convenient position for filming.
        Perhaps the renter promised to pay her money for this, because she had a debt in banks in the amount of 165 thousand rubles. She clearly has the motivation to make money.

        At the same time, only one thing is surprising - what bank gave her a loan to an unemployed person with a family income of 10 thousand rubles? Something I do not really believe in such generosity of banks.
        And if the prosecutor's office checks whether she really had such a bank debt, when, where and why did she get it?

        By the way, the prosecutor's office has already taken up the issue of finding out the income of her family.
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 31 January 2021 16: 29
          0
          Quote: Tatiana
          And in this case, with filming on the camera. After all, in the video, she looked back several times at the operator who was behind her and only then moved onto the roadway across the policemen just when the operator took a convenient position for filming.

          Absolutely. This is how they act
        2. zenion
          zenion 31 January 2021 17: 39
          -1
          She had a calculation, the Americans will not pay, the Russian government will pay.
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 30 January 2021 17: 29
    +3
    Sergei Smirnov, editor-in-chief of Mediazona, was detained at the exit from his house in Moscow. The security forces were waiting for him at the entrance ... It's so romantic good
    The police did a good job.
    Thank you for your service to the Fatherland!
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 30 January 2021 17: 45
      +6
      Quote: Tank jacket
      The police worked competently

      I agree. All the way. There was no knock on the door asking to open it. There were no calls from the editor-in-chief to the curators with a request to send help in the form of all kinds of stringers in thongs. We stood quietly at the entrance, smoked. Like the lads in the 90s ...
      good
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 30 January 2021 17: 51
        -1
        Clearly, fashionable, youthful ... bully
        The Main Investigation Department of the Investigative Committee of Russia opened a criminal case of large-scale fraud against businessman Alexander Khomenko, calling him a "sponsor" of the Anti-Corruption Fund.

        "According to the available information, Khomenko provided financial support to the Anti-Corruption Foundation (FBK) and is currently hiding in Ukraine. A decision has been issued against him to prosecute three episodes of fraud, and he is put on the wanted list," on the website of the department.
        According to the Investigative Committee, Khomenko and “other persons who acted with him as part of an organized group” entered into the documents knowingly false information about the cost of the work performed and stole more than 30 million rubles from the budget of the Moscow Region. The criminal case was initiated under Part 4 of Art. 159 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (fraud committed by an organized group, on an especially large scale).
    2. Tank hard
      Tank hard 30 January 2021 18: 15
      +1
      Quote: Tank jacket
      Sergei Smirnov, editor-in-chief of Mediazona, was detained at the exit from his house in Moscow. The security forces were waiting for him at the entrance ... It's so romantic
      The police did a good job.
      Thank you for your service to the Fatherland!

      Yes, we have already begun work among the contingent (the video does not open here, but you can watch it using the link):
      [media = https: //youtu.be/X2qjLDKtrpk]
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 30 January 2021 18: 18
        -2
        Hi Tank, hi what pleases, they work pointwise, and not across areas ...
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 30 January 2021 18: 21
          0
          Quote: Tank jacket
          Hi Tank, what pleases me, they work pointwise, not across areas ...

          hi Greetings! You need to work as hard as possible if you don't want to lose the country. It is necessary to bring to justice all those who incite minors to participate in the performances.
          1. Tank jacket
            Tank jacket 30 January 2021 19: 08
            -3
            Quote: Tank Hard
            Quote: Tank jacket
            Hi Tank, what pleases me, they work pointwise, not across areas ...

            hi Greetings! You need to work as hard as possible if you don't want to lose the country. It is necessary to bring to justice all those who incite minors to participate in the performances.
            Evil tongues say that parts of the "elite" have been given an ultimatum from the can's team to overthrow the constitutional order on pain of seizing assets abroad ...
            Well, well, this denotation will not go unnoticed wink
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard 30 January 2021 21: 10
              -1
              Quote: Tank jacket
              Evil tongues say that parts of the "elite" have been given an ultimatum from the can's team to overthrow the constitutional order on pain of seizing assets abroad ...
              Well, well, this denotation will not go unnoticed

              Well, I don't know that. But if we assume that someone keeps their savings in a Swiss bank, for example, then the bank controllers can set their own conditions, of course. hi
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 30 January 2021 20: 58
            +2
            Quote: Tank Hard
            You need to work as hard as possible if you don't want to lose the country.

            Let's start shooting right away, shall we?
            People, what happened to you? fool
            When laws in a country work differently for different groups of the population, when an unhealthy skew in living standards is noticeable with an open glance, when incomes of the bulk of the population are falling, but they are growing among the best friends of the guarantor, anger is the norm. And instead of urgently taking steps to change the course towards degradation, the authorities are increasing spending on the Russian Guard, which this year will exceed spending on the Ministry of Defense. A striking indicator of whom the government considers the enemy.
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard 30 January 2021 21: 06
              +5
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Let's start shooting right away, shall we?
              People, what happened to you?

              Well, you know better from the sofa. Well, I saw it directly. Everything is relative. In (in) Ukraine, after the dispersal of the Berkut, many more people suffered (including fatally) if they were simply dispersed in burrows. And you either do not understand (this happens with couch fighters), or a provocateur. request
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 30 January 2021 22: 14
                +2
                Quote: Tank Hard
                ... And you either do not understand (this happens with couch fighters), or a provocateur.

                Yes, I just understand, and what you do not understand? In your opinion, the West and the Benderaites are to blame for the events in Ukraine? No, dear Tank, Yanukovych and our toothless policy towards neighbors are to blame.
                Protests are symptoms, disease is our power. And she does not want to be treated.
                1. Tank hard
                  Tank hard 30 January 2021 22: 18
                  -4
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Yes, I just understand, and what you do not understand? In your opinion, the West and the Benderaites are to blame for the events in Ukraine? No, dear Tank, Yanukovych and our toothless policy towards neighbors are to blame.
                  Protests are symptoms, disease is our power. And she does not want to be treated.

                  Everyone is to blame, including the people. which allowed the situation in the country, which led to a split in the country and a civil war. Yanyk is alive and well, but what about in (in) Ukraine. Have you started to live better? Richer? Less deaths? What is the integrity of the republic?
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 30 January 2021 22: 30
                    +4
                    Quote: Tank Hard
                    Everyone is to blame, including the people.

                    The filly people, wherever they send, will go there. But the thirsty horse runs faster to the watering hole. wink wink
                    So the people should not be blamed, neither in Ukraine, nor in our country in the 90s.
                  2. Tank hard
                    Tank hard 30 January 2021 22: 31
                    -4
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    So the people should not be blamed, neither in Ukraine, nor in our 90

                    Well, yes, the Martians are to blame. laughing
                  3. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 30 January 2021 22: 37
                    +7
                    It is customary for us to attribute the merits of the people to those in power, and blame the people for their mistakes. request
                  4. Tank hard
                    Tank hard 30 January 2021 22: 40
                    -1
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    It is customary for us to attribute the merits of the people to those in power, and blame the people for their jambs

                    Igor. in Odessa who burned people?
                    And who is this, not the people? And what have you achieved? Has it gotten better?
                  5. zenion
                    zenion 31 January 2021 17: 54
                    +1
                    Ingvar 72. Only you said that the people are horses, and Hitler called the mass, or meat afterwards. And now suddenly contradict yourself.
              2. zenion
                zenion 31 January 2021 17: 52
                +1
                Ingvar 72. You know little about what happened in Ukraine. But there miraculously turned out to be specialists from the West and the East. Moreover, I lived in an area where there were many Banders who were allowed to go home. Do you think they have changed?
          3. zenion
            zenion 31 January 2021 17: 48
            0
            Are there specialists who treat diseases? Does your boss treat such diseases, isn't he from the same brigade. After all, they believed before the war the communists, who later became policemen and traitors. And the point is not in the woman, but in those who replace the fight against thieves and bribe-takers, the fight for the chair.
        2. astepanov
          astepanov 30 January 2021 22: 15
          +3
          Quote: Tank Hard
          if they were just dispersed in burrows.

          And what, there are already norms - how many women can be swept with ankle boots in the stomach? And there is a right to beat those who do not take any action at all? Someone can sanely say: what wrong did this woman do against the trinity of mordovots? Looked askance? Not breathing on command? There is a video, she did not do anything.
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 30 January 2021 22: 20
            -3
            Quote: astepanov
            And what, there are already norms - how many women can be swept with ankle boots in the stomach? And there is a right to beat those who do not take any action at all? Someone can sanely say: what wrong did this woman do against the trinity of mordovots? Looked askance? Not breathing on command? There is a video, she did not do anything

            Why would "women" (as you called them here) go to a rally at all?
            1. astepanov
              astepanov 30 January 2021 22: 45
              +3
              Quote: Tank Hard
              Why would "women" (as you called them here) go to a rally at all?

              Is this a good enough reason to go crazy? Is that exactly what the law says?
            2. Tank hard
              Tank hard 30 January 2021 22: 51
              -2
              Quote: astepanov
              Is this a good enough reason to go crazy? Is that exactly what the law says?

              Silly conversation ... request Why would a woman who has a family and worries go to a rally? In Bishkek in 2005, these were paid provocateurs. This is a proven fact. But as always later. First, the unjust regime was thrown down (and it was there and in truth not quite fair), then nothing got better. dropped the next one, it didn't get better again, then everything again. But it turned out. that women in the ranks of the protesters were paid for provocations. But that later. when the deeds were done. repeat
        3. zenion
          zenion 31 January 2021 17: 58
          -2
          A. Stepanov. We saw what they did in the Netherlands with those who didn’t do anything, but just came to report. But there was no permission for a mess. But everything is fine there, because they are in NATO, and Russia is against NATA.
          1. astepanov
            astepanov 31 January 2021 19: 15
            -1
            Quote: zenion
            We saw what they did in the Netherlands with those who didn’t do anything, but just came to report.

            Do you live in the Netherlands? My whole zombie is filled with groans from Kiselev and Solovyov about the poor Niederglands. To listen to them - you can't press people there. But somehow it turns out that since they cannot, then we can. Especially old women if they don't bother anyone. But I live in Russia, I do not care about your Niederglands, I am interested in what is happening with us, not with you, wherever you are.
    3. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
      Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 30 January 2021 22: 56
      -3
      Well, you are coca ... not tolerant. Why shoot? Well, maybe with rubber bullets, and then someone can knock out an eye. It is necessary, as in civilized countries - with gas, there, with tears, the crowd to pollinate a little, use water cannons. Precisely, water cannons are very effective in our conditions! And most importantly, no direct contact with law enforcement officers! In such conditions, others who have clinging to "ideological" svobs will immediately lose their desire to fight with someone - their pants will freeze. And most importantly, everything is like abroad, "European"!
    4. Kisa
      Kisa 31 January 2021 00: 36
      +3
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      imbalance in living standards

      what competent actions of the Kremlin do you see? now the people are easy on their feet and in prosperous countries. navalnists outplay Vova for me - well, why did they touch him themselves, they substitute - right now, Leshka has risen in status to another level ... so everything is clumsy .. Vofkin's money bag did not add to his popularity today with this castle
    5. saigon
      saigon 31 January 2021 12: 34
      0
      Let's all the same understand Rosgvardia is not a very homogeneous and motley structure and say that it is a sharpener for overclocking all polls is not correct.
      They took the Vovchiks from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, added them, but why didn't they just add them and got a new guard.
      The Rosgvardia carries out the protection of objects and issues permits and generally a ready reserve in case of war for the Ministry of Defense.
      So overclocking people are not the majority there.
    6. zenion
      zenion 31 January 2021 17: 44
      0
      How are you worried. Instead of correcting, you again call for doing the same thing that you did with the USSR, the same ones.
  • Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 30 January 2021 20: 46
    0
    Quote: Tank jacket
    The police did a good job.
    Thank you for your service to the Fatherland!

    Was he at the rally? According to him, no, and he has an alibi. But he was detained precisely for his participation in the rally.
    Where did you learn to read and write, not in the Prigogine lyceums? wink
    1. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 30 January 2021 20: 56
      -3
      It is not important who studied where, but who caught what repeat
  • ssergey1978
    ssergey1978 30 January 2021 17: 51
    -2
    And in what place is there defense, and even admissible? 54 year old woman asked a question and got in the belly. Interestingly, if you are asked to a representative of the authorities, these representatives are dumb, you will also think?
    1. Alexander Suvorov
      Alexander Suvorov 30 January 2021 18: 10
      +8
      ssergey1978 (Sergey)
      And in what place is there defense, and even admissible? 54 year old woman asked a question and got in the belly.
      If on an ordinary day she would have approached a policeman on the street with a question, that would be one thing, but at an illegal rally to go in with the type of "questions" is completely different, and the camera turned out to be very useful here, so this is a rigged provocation in its pure form, like the allegedly all "bloody" ketchup baby.
      1. astepanov
        astepanov 30 January 2021 22: 17
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Suvorov
        but at an illegal rally to climb with the type of "questions" is completely different

        Where is it spelled out in the legislation? Or is it from the area of ​​thieves' concepts, and not law?
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 31 January 2021 06: 40
          -4
          Quote: astepanov
          Where is it spelled out in the legislation?

          Obstacle to employee actions during execution.
    2. zenion
      zenion 31 January 2021 18: 05
      -2
      ssergey1978. Did you hear what she asked? You are a little like an old woman who was sent to a gynecologist. He examined her. She got dressed, opened the doors and suddenly turned around - does your mom know what you are doing here? So what did the woman ask? How to get to the library, or you have matches, you have nothing to light a cigarette with, or maybe you decided to kick the arrested person in the balls. As I now hear her say - I can hit him in the balls, and you take it off, then I will show my husband what I will do to him if he goes left and right.
      1. ssergey1978
        ssergey1978 31 January 2021 20: 53
        0
        Are you sober? The whole world heard what she asked.
  • Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 30 January 2021 15: 14
    +3
    Quote: sergo1914
    Auntie, to put it mildly, weird. But even with a foot in this situation, it is not comme il faut to buy goods.

    The situation is stupid, but ... in any case - an attack on a police officer must be stopped Harsh! Otherwise ... down with the police, down with the authorities - hello Holiday of Disobedience. Only very quickly, from sorting out relations with representatives of the Power, we will move on to the next stage ... let's start Fun and with Fire, Cut and Shoot Friend - Friend!
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 15: 38
      -10%
      Quote: Hunter 2
      The situation is stupid, but ... in any case - an attack on a police officer must be stopped Harsh!

      And where, let me be curious, was there an attack on a policeman? She didn't have time to ask him. By law, a police officer must stand trial, at least for abuse of power. No need to forgive the scum, tomorrow he will hit someone's mother, grandmother, child!
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 30 January 2021 15: 46
        +2
        The policeman carried out the Detention ... and it is unknown who, possibly an armed criminal! This strange aunt (supposedly Orthodox) tried to obstruct the Police work! All point, let Others think and study the laws.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 15: 49
          +3
          Quote: Hunter 2
          This strange aunt (supposedly Orthodox) tried to obstruct the Police work!

          Watch the video. Did she grab his hands? How did that stop him? How and in what way did she "try to obstruct the Work of the Police"? Those who justify the scoundrels are no different from them.
          1. Reserve buildbat
            Reserve buildbat 30 January 2021 16: 36
            +4
            Alexey, you are undoubtedly right. Those who justify the scoundrels are no different from them. So don't make excuses, be nice. In principle, the policeman did the right thing. He was escorting the violator, and some exalted accomplice to the crime (riots) rushed to him. In this case, the policeman acted most humanely. According to the mind, they should have tied this "victim" too. Not to mention the fact that this aunt herself is very muddy.
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 16: 52
              -4
              Quote: Stroibat stock
              In principle, the policeman did exactly the right thing ...

              The policeman acted against the law.
              Federal Law of 07.02.2011 N 3-FZ (as amended on 29.12.2020) "On the police" read.
              http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_110165/b0e7a72817927f6520504c25498b9f687209dfee/
              You are an intelligent and adequate person, you yourself will see there the articles that he violated, and there not one article was violated.
              1. Reserve buildbat
                Reserve buildbat 30 January 2021 16: 58
                +4
                Did the "victim" violate anything? laughing
                It's just that the circus, which we call an "unauthorized rally", is called by the "lights of democracy" mass riots, which are dispersed violently, right up to shooting. So this offender got off really well. Not to mention the fact that she was not even asked if she knew about the responsibility for participating in an "unauthorized rally" and responsibility for obstructing the work of the police.
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 17: 01
                  -4
                  Quote: Stroibat stock
                  Did the "victim" violate anything?

                  If she violated, let her answer according to the law, she knew where she was going, but I will repeat myself BY THE LAW, and not with a boot in the stomach. Everyone should be equal before the law, from Putin to the last bum.
                  1. Reserve buildbat
                    Reserve buildbat 30 January 2021 17: 06
                    +6
                    Quite right. Let her now answer according to the law. What kind of unauthorized rallies we have there? Even super soft 15 days. Let us subtract from these 15 those two or three days when she was "in a serious condition lay in intensive care", and now she rides a torn goat laughing... And the rest of the day will be marinated in the monkey house. It will be according to the law. And her sons should be happily sent to jail for systematic malicious evasion of military service. And plus to everything, carefully check the sources of the family's income. This is with regard to the legal response.
                    1. aleksejkabanets
                      aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 17: 09
                      -4
                      Quote: Stroibat stock
                      It will be according to the law. And her sons should be happily sent to jail for systematic malicious evasion of military service.

                      But who can argue, let him answer, only the children are there for?
                      Quote: Stroibat stock
                      And plus to everything, carefully check the sources of the family's income.

                      And here I am only in favor of constantly checking all civil servants, otherwise it turns out selectively.
                    2. Reserve buildbat
                      Reserve buildbat 30 January 2021 17: 19
                      +9
                      Children here mean that they are hard-core deviators. This is also a crime if you are not aware. smile And by the way, good. Let the police officer also be punished by the law. According to the law, he did not commit an offense. But okay, let's imagine that his actions were unauthorized. So what? Inflicting light bodily harm, as a maximum. So maybe a penny fine.
                      But, for example, a snotty "blogger" who kicked a car and broke the windshield should sit down for several years not only for participating in the riots, but also for causing grievous bodily harm. The driver lost an eye. Or doesn't that count either? The driver is a bastard, since he serves in the FSB, as far as I remember, and the "Blokher" is an unhappy child who must be understood and forgiven? I am not changing the subject, I am asking about the legal answer. What a violent aunt, what a young idiot, what law enforcement officers.
                    3. aleksejkabanets
                      aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 17: 26
                      -6
                      Quote: Stroibat stock
                      Children here mean that they are hard-core deviators.

                      It's not about them, after all, it is in the article, they are to blame, let them answer.
                      Quote: Stroibat stock
                      So maybe a penny fine.

                      Let the court decide. And the "blogger" is the same.
                2. astepanov
                  astepanov 30 January 2021 22: 52
                  +2
                  Quote: Stroibat stock
                  And her sons should be happily sent to jail for systematic malicious evasion of military service. And plus to everything, carefully check the sources of the family's income. This is with regard to the legal response.

                  Yes, yes, two men with chronic diabetes are maliciously evading service. They also need to be kicked. Better to kill right away - so that there are no questions. And check the family's income: how much money do they manage to survive in the village? It's not the oligarchs and not the deputies to check ...
                3. Reserve buildbat
                  Reserve buildbat 31 January 2021 06: 42
                  -3
                  There is only one with chronic diabetes. The one who is 20 years old. And how can diabetes get in the way of working online as a freelancer? Moreover, he has no disability. And about the health of the elder, there is generally silence. So do not pervert other people's words. However, liberastics and oval are distinguished by increased aggressiveness. A sort of fighting hamsters.
              2. aglet
                aglet 31 January 2021 11: 58
                +2
                "It will be according to the law. And her sons should be happily sent to jail for systematic malicious evasion from military service. Plus, carefully check the sources of the family's income."
                Why complicate things so much? just take it to Siberia, according to the verdict of the troika, or just spank it out of the revolver in the basements of the National Guard. "and his cat and his cattle," and fill the apartment with salt. this will be according to the law laughing
              3. Reserve buildbat
                Reserve buildbat 31 January 2021 12: 01
                -4
                Don't confuse legality with idiocy. Although there is an impression that you are not aware of the legality. You just have to ride with screams "Leshahoroshy" laughing
          2. Alexander Suvorov
            Alexander Suvorov 30 January 2021 17: 34
            +12
            aleksejkabanets (Alexey)
            If she violated, let her answer according to the law, she knew where she was going, but I will repeat myself BY THE LAW, and not with a boot in the stomach.
            What are you talking about? She was still very lucky with a boot in the stomach, in Germany, France or the Netherlands she would have received a water cannon or something even heavier, and in the "democratic" USA she would have just been shot.
            Excuse me, where did you serve? Personally, I served in the internal troops and I fully understand this policeman, moreover, I think that he didn’t hit her a lot, I had to add something else so that it would not be easy to climb under the rink. You can just as well throw yourself under a train, which you don't throw yourself. Any obstacle to the work of a police officer must be suppressed, she prevented him, period. And this aunt should sit, and not a policeman, otherwise the whole country will end.
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 17: 42
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Suvorov
              Excuse me, where did you serve?

              Federal Penitentiary Service.
              Quote: Alexander Suvorov
              Personally, I served in the internal troops and I fully understand this policeman

              And I believe that a two-legged creature that kicked an elderly woman does not have the right not only to wear shoulder straps, but also to be called a man.
            2. Alexander Suvorov
              Alexander Suvorov 30 January 2021 17: 48
              +11
              aleksejkabanets (Alexey)
              Federal Penitentiary Service.
              Something your reasoning does not look like a spinner's reasoning, so you are lying most likely like a gray gelding.
              And I believe that a two-legged creature that kicked an elderly woman does not have the right not only to wear shoulder straps, but also to be called a man.
              For a "two-legged creature" in the place of this policeman, I would have filed a lawsuit against you, otherwise they are accustomed to tryndet on the internet with impunity. A two-legged creature, it is you and this aunt because of whom they are then the children of the country fall apart.
            3. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 18: 23
              -2
              Quote: Alexander Suvorov
              That your reasoning does not look like a spinner's reasoning

              You have a poor knowledge of the GUIN, if you think that they only serve as arrows on the towers. Probably no one works "in the zone"?
              Quote: Alexander Suvorov
              so you're lying most likely like a gray gelding.

              Your wretched reasoning is of little interest to me.
              Quote: Alexander Suvorov
              For a "two-legged creature" in the place of this policeman, I would have sued you, otherwise you are used to tryndet on the internet with impunity.

              Any "two-legged creature" that hits a woman, in my opinion, loses the right to be called a man, and even more so a policeman. Let him serve.
              Quote: Alexander Suvorov
              A two-legged creature, it is you and this aunt because of whom they are then the children of the country fall apart.

              Two-legged creatures are you and your kind "gentlemen" who beat women or justify such disgusting acts. And "countries are being destroyed" by those "great and wise" rulers who encourage such lawlessness.
            4. Alexander Suvorov
              Alexander Suvorov 30 January 2021 18: 29
              +14
              aleksejkabanets (Alexey)
              Any "two-legged creature" that hits a woman, in my opinion, loses the right to be called a man, and even more so a policeman.
              This is not a woman, this is a provocateur and the policeman did the right thing.
              And as for women, I can remind you how young girls in Odessa on May 2, 2014, Molotov cocktails were poured into bottles. Do you remember what happened next? And you can't remind a pregnant woman strangled there?
              Where are you broadcasting from? From 404 or straight from London?
            5. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 18: 39
              -3
              Quote: Alexander Suvorov
              This is not a woman, this is a provocateur and the policeman did the right thing.

              In this case, a police officer acted as a provocateur. His actions caused a great public outcry. Do you like that in the West it is shown and spoken in their media as in Russia old women are beaten with boots? But he could simply push her aside with his hand if she interfered with him. And I had to do it. If I had done this in my service, I would have been jailed long ago or killed. And about me they would say "it is my own fault" and they would be absolutely right.
            6. Alexander Suvorov
              Alexander Suvorov 30 January 2021 18: 44
              +6
              aleksejkabanets (Alexey)
              In this case, a police officer acted as a provocateur. His actions caused a great public outcry.
              The resonance was caused not by his actions, but by the fact that it was staged, prepared in advance and filmed to cause a resonance.
              Do you like that it is shown in the West and spoken by their media as in Russia old women are beaten with boots?
              That's exactly what they show in the West, that's why they filmed it. Why don't they show in the West how a US police officer shot a woman point-blank on live television? Not comme il faut?
              If I had done this in my service, I would have been jailed long ago or killed.
              Do not star, you did not serve anywhere!
            7. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 19: 03
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Suvorov
              The resonance was caused not by his actions, but by the fact that it was staged, prepared in advance and filmed to cause a resonance.

              That is, the police officer was "fake"? If all this is staged? To plant the villain provocateur!
              Quote: Alexander Suvorov
              Why don't they show in the West how a US police officer shot a woman point-blank on live television?

              Do you want it like in the West? For example, I don’t want to. And yes, all this is shown in the West and the police are being tried.
              Quote: Alexander Suvorov
              Do not star, you did not serve anywhere!

              And why, let me be curious, did you make such a profound conclusion? Any reasonable arguments? Or is it just that my position does not correspond to your ideas?
            8. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 30 January 2021 21: 57
              +5
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              And why, let me be curious, did you make such a profound conclusion? Any reasonable arguments? Or is it just that my position does not correspond to your ideas?

              the argument is - what if the blow was not accented? After all, he just kicked, and she herself, by chance or not, put herself under the blow without expecting that the boot was heavy?
              additional rigidity to the impact could be given by the fact that they were in a fixed group! he might have held his leg somewhere, but he was pulled!
              and pay attention, she was not shouting a political demand, but interfering with the convoy!
            9. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 22: 06
              -7
              Quote: aybolyt678
              the argument is - what if the blow was not accented? .....

              Let the prosecutor's office or the court figure it out. And in fact, he violated the Police Law, in particular Article 19, paragraphs 1, 3 and 4.
              Quote: aybolyt678
              She was not shouting a political demand, but interfering with the convoy!

              Yes, what kind of interference could she create three hefty foreheads? She didn't even try to touch them.
            10. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 30 January 2021 22: 17
              +5
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              She didn't even try to touch them.

              she got in their way, created an obstacle. And I could still hang in my arms ... I’m a hundred-kilogram elk, but I would never have the idea to stand in the way of the police .. Only in case of a direct threat to my loved ones
            11. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 22: 34
              -2
              Quote: aybolyt678
              And she could still hang in her arms ...

              But it didn't hang, did it? There is a law, its requirements must be fulfilled. Violence must be dosed and its use must comply with the law. Otherwise, we will quickly slide to the line after which there will be no return. Violence breeds violence. They are imprisoned for "plastic cups", for snowballs, probably, the youth will have problems. And the policeman is better? He kicked an elderly woman in public, what kind of example is he setting?
            12. Dart2027
              Dart2027 31 January 2021 06: 42
              -2
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              But it didn't hang, did it?

              because she was not given such an opportunity.
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              And the policeman is better? He kicked an elderly woman in public, what example is he setting?

              How to deal with women / children.
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 30 January 2021 18: 43
    -4
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    And I believe that a two-legged creature

    The two-legged creature is your dear victim and the rest of them are children / women.
  • Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 30 January 2021 21: 12
    -5
    In Germany and France, cars and shops are being burned; in the United States, armed men seize the Capitol. Do we have it all? You cannot understand the banal, violence defeats violence. And justifying the bastards who give the order to act tough, you do not want to understand one thing - it will get worse. And ignoring like Khabarovsk will no longer be otmazhivaet.
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 30 January 2021 21: 33
    +4
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    You cannot understand the banal, violence defeats violence.

    Yes, yes, yes ... Tell the Chinese.
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    And justifying the bastards giving the order to act tough

    Not scoundrels, but defenders of the country.
  • Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 30 January 2021 22: 03
    0
    Quote: Dart2027
    ah-yes-yes ... tell the Chinese.

    In China, your guarantor's friends would have been shot at the stadium long ago.
  • Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
    Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 30 January 2021 23: 04
    -2
    In China, the likes of you are simply rolled out in tanks.
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 31 January 2021 10: 26
    +2
    Quote: Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
    In China, the likes of you are simply rolled out in tanks.

    In China, they rolled out the tanks of those liberals who are in power today. They rolled out the Chinese counterparts of Yeltsin, Sobchak, the carrier of Sobchak's portfolio and similar characters, so do not blame your sore head on a healthy one.
  • Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
    Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 31 January 2021 21: 26
    +2
    Do not blame your head on a healthy one There they rolled everyone and, first of all, foreign agents similar to the failed one. Figures like Yeltsin and Sobchak are removed there quietly, without unnecessary noise.
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 31 January 2021 22: 29
    -2
    Quote: Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
    Figures like Yeltsin and Sobchak are removed there quietly, without unnecessary noise.

    And they didn’t remove it from us. And some, we will not point a finger at him, they wore briefcases.
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 31 January 2021 06: 43
    0
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Friends of your guarantor in China

    That's just all the moans about friends come from sources that are as objective as Goebbels.
  • IS-80_RVGK2
    IS-80_RVGK2 31 January 2021 18: 15
    +2
    What sources should you believe? After all, we now have quite a capitalism and our sources of information are completely under the control of capital. That is, they definitely work in his interests. By the way, Goebbels is a product of capitalism, of which you are a supporter. So as Comrade Stalin said, or maybe not, "both are worse."
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 31 January 2021 19: 48
    +1
    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
    What sources should you believe? After all, we now have quite a capitalism and our sources of information are completely under the control of capital.

    And when there was socialism, they all spoke only the truth. Navalny has no documents, this is a fact.
  • IS-80_RVGK2
    IS-80_RVGK2 31 January 2021 19: 51
    0
    How did you decide that I believe Navalny? For me, he is that Putin is two sides of the same coin.
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 31 January 2021 21: 52
    +1
    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
    How did you decide that I believe Navalny?

    You don't like the actions of the authorities.
    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
    that he is that Putin are two sides of the same coin

    That is, Putin passed everything for the ... th time.
  • IS-80_RVGK2
    IS-80_RVGK2 1 February 2021 13: 00
    0
    So what? Why should I necessarily be a supporter of the bulk? Moreover, he is from your own pack of mean bourgeois jackals. Putin has already passed many times and many things, but some prefer not to notice it so it is more convenient for them.
  • New Year day
    New Year day 30 January 2021 21: 41
    -1
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    You cannot understand the banal, violence defeats violence. And justifying the bastards who give the order to act tough, you do not want to understand one thing - it will get worse.

    do not get angry! When the rooster bites, these "smart people" will be the first to start shouting: "and what for us?"
    But it will be too late, after the first blood there will be no mercy. Golden eagles rushed to Russia, but where should our "falcons" run? request
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 31 January 2021 06: 45
    -1
    Quote: Silvestr
    Golden eagles rushed to Russia, but where should our "falcons" run?

    As they say, "the cap is on the thief."
    You mean from these
  • aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 30 January 2021 22: 12
    +3
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    you do not want to understand one thing - it will get worse.

    dear Igor, if you go with such requirements, then yes, it will be worse. Because it's not normal when people demand the release of a criminal. Navalny's support is a complete collapse of the state. Requirements must be clear - like we demand social justice, or nationalization of the subsoil, or a progressive tax on excess income ....... Tolerance in microbiology means the absence of an immune response, a microorganism in a tolerant organism develops without hindrance. Based on this, there was nothing for my grandmother to do at the illegal rally. Notice the hit was unaccented. That is, additional rigidity to the impact was given by the fact that they walked in an interlocking group. Imagine, you kick a punching bag, and someone pulls your hands towards the punching bag at the moment of impact, the blow will turn out much harder!
  • Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 30 January 2021 22: 27
    +3
    Quote: aybolyt678
    Because it's not normal when people demand to release a criminal

    The law should be the same for everyone. But here some are imprisoned for nothing (Platoshkin, for example, Kvachkov, Khabarov, Bykov, Furgal), others are only transferred to another position.
    But Navalny, the authorities themselves are making a banner out of him. Which, by the way, I don't like. He does not propose a change of course and structure in the country. The same Western paradigm of degradation.
  • IS-80_RVGK2
    IS-80_RVGK2 31 January 2021 18: 19
    0
    Are you sure they were jailed for nothing? There is a lot of muddy and incomprehensible things. I would not rush to make heroes of these people. They may well turn out to be akin to our power.
  • Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 31 January 2021 21: 03
    -1
    I'm sure for Kvachkov and Khabarov. I would follow them into the fire. There are other questions, but everyone is speaking correctly.
  • IS-80_RVGK2
    IS-80_RVGK2 1 February 2021 01: 04
    +1
    You can say anything you want. With regards to Platoshkin, He is an ordinary demagogue. Just compare what he says with what Lenin said. And it will immediately become clear
  • astepanov
    astepanov 31 January 2021 11: 24
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Suvorov
    Personally, I served in the internal troops and I fully understand this policeman, moreover, I think that he didn't hit her a lot

    Yes, if sadists like you serve there, then things are bad.
    Surely no one sees that the booze is taking place in countries that have serious economic problems? Don't we have them? A monstrous rise in prices for essential goods and food, terrible social stratification, failures in medicine and education (to the praises of success), failure with vaccination (how many sang about the world's first vaccine - and still have not vaccinated even one percent of the population), In the international arena, things are far from brilliant - and these problems are solved by tightening the screws: the costs of power structures are growing and growing, education costs are falling ... Navalny and other riffraff are just an excuse, and the reason is uncertainty and fear of the future. In the last "smooth" 2014, there were no protests. So this is not a riot policeman, but the state kicked her in the stomach - and also out of fear and uncertainty. At the same time, lamenting: "It's not us, it's my aunt and foreign enemies are to blame for everything." Yes, the enemies are also to blame - but the authorities have made fertile ground for them.
  • Svarog
    Svarog 30 January 2021 17: 31
    -6
    Quote: Stroibat stock
    He was escorting the violator, and some exalted accomplice to the crime (riots) rushed to him

    She did not rush at all .. in the video it is clearly visible .. rushed, just he ..
    1. Alexander Suvorov
      Alexander Suvorov 30 January 2021 18: 03
      +13
      Svarog (Vladimir)
      She did not rush at all .. in the video it is clearly visible .. rushed, just he ..
      Well, of course, she went out to give flowers to the policeman, and he kicked her in the thigh.
      I’m wondering how the local alleged "communists" have united under the banner of anal and famously drown for a mess in the country, and I just want to ask - WHOM DO WE WORK FOR?
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 30 January 2021 18: 09
        -2
        Quote: Alexander Suvorov
        I’m wondering how the local alleged "communists" have united under the banner of anal and famously drown for a mess in the country, and I just want to ask - WHOM DO WE WORK FOR?

        For the mess in the country, those who condone theft are drowning, lawlessness, nepotism and other joys of those in power .. In this case, with a woman is lawlessness. And if the communists unite ... even without Navalny ... then your heels to London will sparkle with Navalny wassat ..
        1. Alexander Suvorov
          Alexander Suvorov 30 January 2021 18: 15
          +12
          Svarog
          Those who condone theft, lawlessness, nepotism and other joys of those in power are drowning for the mess in the country.
          What are you talking about? In Ukraine, too, they drowned against corruption II ...?! Can you tell us how things are going with corruption? Not?
          In this case, it is lawlessness with a woman.
          I agree that she must be imprisoned according to the law, both for the fact that she went to an illegal meeting and for the fact that she participated in an outright provocation.
          And if the communists unite ... even without Navalny ... then your heels will sparkle to London ...
          You are communists like a bullet from shit, after you have united with the anal, everything became clear to whose mill you are pouring water, so it’s for you to run to London while the wind is without stones.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 30 January 2021 18: 26
            -2
            Quote: Alexander Suvorov
            What are you talking about? In Ukraine, too, they drowned against corruption II ...?! Can you tell us how things are going with corruption? Not?

            So you need to endure corruption, lawlessness .. and then it will be like in Ukraine? wassat
            Mantras with Ukraine got pretty good .. and maybe like in France?
            I agree that she must be imprisoned according to the law, both for the fact that she went to an illegal meeting and for the fact that she participated in an outright provocation.

            And that there are legitimate rallies? Well, yes ... in an open field 100 km from Moscow .. Your laws, which corrupt officials print for themselves, will soon not work at all .. because they were created for cattle .. and they themselves put all the laws in place ..
            after you have teamed up with the anal, everything became clear to whose mill

            Fear has big eyes .. where did you see the communist union with Navalny?
          2. Alexander Suvorov
            Alexander Suvorov 30 January 2021 18: 35
            +7
            Svarog (Vladimir)
            So you need to endure corruption, lawlessness .. and then it will be like in Ukraine?
            Under these mantras about the type of "fight" against corruption, more than one country was ruined and taken over. So by, it’s you youngsters can hang this noodle on the ears.
            Mantras with Ukraine got pretty good .. and maybe like in France?
            And what is there in France?
            And with Ukraine, these are not mantras, this is what they are preparing for us in Russia, only here everything will be much worse and bloodier with us.
            And that there are legitimate rallies?
            There are also legal ones. At least when they do not come out specifically to attack the police. And these are not rallies, this is pure provocation.
            Fear has big eyes .. where did you see the communist union with Navalny?
            That blinded or did not see the red flags at the "rallies" anal? Or have you been banned from Google?
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          4. Dart2027
            Dart2027 30 January 2021 20: 20
            +7
            Quote: Svarog
            It was you who went blind .. cowardly "patriots" who

            So far, cowardly revolutionaries are putting women in front of themselves.
          5. Svarog
            Svarog 30 January 2021 20: 22
            -2
            Quote: Dart2027
            Quote: Svarog
            It was you who went blind .. cowardly "patriots" who

            So far, cowardly revolutionaries are putting women in front of themselves.

            Tell me a patriot .. we have a war? Why are we less than half a million people? And this is only this year .. do you have any idea .. this is the number of people .. this is a whole big city .. I live in this way .. and hop .. it is empty ..
          6. Dart2027
            Dart2027 30 January 2021 20: 33
            +2
            Quote: Svarog
            Tell me a patriot .. is there a war with us?

            That is, do not argue with the fact that cowardly revolutionaries put themselves ahead of themselves as women.
            Quote: Svarog
            Why are there half a million fewer of us?

            This question has already been discussed a million times, read "Death of the West".
          7. New Year day
            New Year day 30 January 2021 21: 58
            0
            Quote: Dart2027
            This question has already been discussed a million times, read "Death of the West".

            why do we need the West? Or are you from the West? You have to think about your country
          8. Dart2027
            Dart2027 31 January 2021 06: 46
            -4
            Quote: Silvestr
            why do we need the West? Or are you from the West?

            It examines demographic processes in all developed countries. AND
            Quote: Dart2027
            do not argue with the fact that cowardly revolutionaries put themselves in front of them.

            Quote: Tank Hard
            Why aren't you giving birth, svarog? Why don't your children in the amount of at least 5 people give birth to 5 more? Why don't they support each other in various emergencies, or just conflict situations?

            Very good words.
        2. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 31 January 2021 18: 27
          -1
          Quote: Dart2027
          This question has already been discussed a million times, read "Death of the West".

          So we are not a spiritless West, we have our own special truly correct path. laughing Why do you have such shitty guards with logic almost without exception?
        3. Dart2027
          Dart2027 31 January 2021 19: 43
          +2
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          So we are not a spiritless West, we have our own special truly correct path.

          That is, in essence, there is nothing to say.
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          Why do you have such shitty guards with logic almost without exception?

          Said a man who has no logic at all.
        4. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 31 January 2021 19: 46
          -1
          This is in the sense for you or what? laughing And what about you, you are a typical standard silly guardian. Boring to yawn. Who has no brain, but there is a training manual. laughing
        5. Dart2027
          Dart2027 31 January 2021 21: 53
          +1
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          And what to say about you, you are a typical standard silly guard.

          That is, I am not fooled by cheap divorces of those who like to rock the boat.
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          Who has no brain, but there is a training manual.

          That you are self-critical.
        6. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 1 February 2021 13: 11
          0
          You yourself rock this boat. And no bulk nichrome will do more for this than you and others like you did with your attitude to the people.
        7. Dart2027
          Dart2027 1 February 2021 19: 59
          0
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          what did you and others like you do with your attitude to the people

          Since when did the fifth column become a people?
        8. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 1 February 2021 21: 04
          +1
          Since 1991. You don't think of the rest as people.
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 30 January 2021 21: 31
    +2
    Quote: Svarog
    Tell me a patriot .. is there a war with us? Why are we less than half a million people? And that's just this year.... Do you have any idea .. this is the number of people .. this is a whole big city .. I live in such a place .. and hop .. it is empty

    Why aren't you giving birth, svarog? Why don't your children in the amount of at least 5 people give birth to 5 more? Why don't they support each other in various emergencies, or just conflict situations? Take the Kyrgyz for example. Their number is growing steadily, despite the difficult economic situation and completely collapsed healthcare, even in comparison with the Russian Federation. They believe in God, visit temples, help each other, create a traditional family and have children. What's wrong with you? Why are you crying here? What for? You will cease to be and others will take your place. You yourself are fighting against your people. I don't know though. what people do you belong to. Maybe not at all to Russian ... repeat
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  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 30 January 2021 22: 09
    +1
    Quote: Svarog
    I have already given birth .. now I need to feed it as it should.

    So you work, but no. you're crying here. Although I don’t believe about "giving birth" ... request
    Quote: Svarog
    So get away together there .. maybe the Russians will start giving birth then ..

    That is, you hate other nationalities, and this is your call for expulsion from a multinational country. those citizens who are not of a similar nationality to yours? Are you lighting up here? Come on, write more, let everyone read. yes
  • Svarog
    Svarog 30 January 2021 22: 16
    0
    Quote: Tank Hard
    So you work, but no. you're crying here. Although I don’t believe about "giving birth" ...

    So I work .. and I don’t cry .. here you are crying in my opinion .. there is nothing to answer the question .. so sobbing is continuous .. from fear for the king ..

    Quote: Tank Hard
    That is, you hate other nationalities, and this is your call for expulsion from a multinational country. those citizens who are not of a similar nationality to yours? Are you lighting up here? Come on, write more, let everyone read.

    I'm talking to a psychiatrist ..
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 30 January 2021 22: 23
    +2
    Quote: Svarog
    This is how I work .. and I don’t cry ..

    Not. Volodka. crying ... laughing
  • IS-80_RVGK2
    IS-80_RVGK2 31 January 2021 18: 30
    -2
    It's funny when the champions of capitalist nationalist patriotism start campaigning for internationalism. laughing
  • New Year day
    New Year day 30 January 2021 22: 00
    +1
    Quote: Tank Hard
    I don't know though. what people do you belong to. Maybe not at all to Russian ..

    Article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. Incitement to hatred or enmity, as well as humiliation of human dignity (current edition)
    1. Actions aimed at inciting hatred or enmity, as well as humiliating the dignity of a person or a group of persons on the basis of gender, race, nationality, language, origin, attitude to religion, as well as belonging to any social group, committed in public, in including with the use of mass media or information and telecommunication networks, including the Internet, by a person after being brought to administrative responsibility for a similar act within one year
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 30 January 2021 22: 13
    +1
    Quote: Silvestr
    Article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. Incitement to hatred or enmity, as well as humiliation of human dignity (current edition)
    1. Actions aimed at inciting hatred or enmity, as well as humiliating the dignity of a person or a group of persons on the basis of gender, race, nationality, language, origin, attitude to religion, as well as belonging to any social group, committed in public, in including with the use of mass media or information and telecommunication networks, including the Internet, by a person after being brought to administrative responsibility for a similar act within one year

    Truth? Is our jack of all trades already a lawyer? laughing
    And I thought that the kindling was here: repeat

    Svarog (Vladimir)
    Today, 21: 57

    0
    Quote: Tank Hard
    Why aren't you giving birth, svarog?

    I have already given birth ... now I need to feed it somehow ...
    Take, for example, the Kyrgyz

    So get away together there .. maybe the Russians will start giving birth thenb.

    No? wink
  • New Year day
    New Year day 30 January 2021 22: 16
    +2
    Quote: Tank Hard
    Truth? Is our jack of all trades already a lawyer?

    I guess you have very poor eyesight, you don't read the necessary books. Or maybe you can't assimilate what you read? laughing
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 30 January 2021 22: 22
    +1
    Quote: Silvestr
    I guess you have very poor eyesight, you don't read the necessary books. Or maybe you don't absorb what you read

    Yes passed the commission in November. wink But you better not go to lawyers, amateurs, and so the country is full. laughing
  • New Year day
    New Year day 30 January 2021 21: 57
    0
    Quote: Dart2027
    So far, cowardly revolutionaries are putting women in front of themselves.

    the priority of this belongs to Putin since March 4, 2014.
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 31 January 2021 06: 49
    -2
    Quote: Silvestr
    priority of this belongs to Putin

    Who warned that if necessary, the RF Armed Forces would roll out the APU.
    Or will Av here tell you that that "great army"?
  • IS-80_RVGK2
    IS-80_RVGK2 31 January 2021 18: 23
    0
    Cowardly kakbypatriots write angry comments about this sitting on the couch at home. laughing What did you do to prevent all this from happening?
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 31 January 2021 19: 45
    +2
    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
    What did you do to prevent all this from happening?

    Then you can learn more.
  • New Year day
    New Year day 30 January 2021 21: 48
    -1
    Quote: Svarog
    It is you who have gone blind .. cowardly "patriots" who are ready to endure .. endure and sing the praises of zeroed out .. praising for "stability"

    Volodya! They are as scared as Putin is. From the pedestal, but with fanfare!
  • Svarog
    Svarog 30 January 2021 22: 20
    -1
    Quote: Silvestr
    Quote: Svarog
    It is you who have gone blind .. cowardly "patriots" who are ready to endure .. endure and sing the praises of zeroed out .. praising for "stability"

    Volodya! They are as scared as Putin is. From the pedestal, but with fanfare!

    Naturally .. then you have to work .. and be responsible for what you have done ..
  • New Year day
    New Year day 30 January 2021 21: 47
    0
    Quote: Alexander Suvorov
    Under these mantras about the type of "fight" against corruption, more than one country was ruined and taken over.

    how many did you save? South Korea, for example.
    Quote: Alexander Suvorov
    only here everything will be much worse and bloodier.

    only the power prepares this blood. The brutality and lack of dialogue only hardens people. Do you remember the "Primorsky partisans"?
    Quote: Alexander Suvorov
    There are also legal ones.

    name at least one permitted opposition rally
  • New Year day
    New Year day 30 January 2021 21: 43
    0
    Quote: Svarog
    where did you see the association of the communists with Navalny?

    Zyuganov is Putin's assistant on work with the "communists". but in fact, the same as him. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation will soon scatter in different directions
  • Svarog
    Svarog 30 January 2021 22: 21
    -1
    Quote: Silvestr
    Quote: Svarog
    where did you see the association of the communists with Navalny?

    Zyuganov is Putin's assistant on work with the "communists". but in fact, the same as him. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation will soon scatter in different directions

    So it is ... an adapt from one team ..
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 30 January 2021 18: 28
    -2
    Quote: Alexander Suvorov
    I’m wondering how the local alleged "communists" have united under the banner of anal and famously drown for a mess in the country, and I just want to ask - WHOM DO WE WORK FOR?

    Should we support those who steal, hide their income, hit women, etc.? And what does Navalny have to do with it? If the government does not adhere to the principle "all are equal before the law," why should I applaud this?
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 30 January 2021 22: 01
      +2
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      Should we support those who steal, hide their income, hit women, etc.? What does Navalny have to do with it?

      But didn't this happen before Navalny? Shaft! impunity breeds permissiveness
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 30 January 2021 18: 44
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Suvorov
    I’m wondering how the local alleged "communists" have united under the banner of anal and famously drown for a mess in the country, and I just want to ask - WHOM DO WE WORK FOR?

    Even with the devil, but the main thing is to arrange a revolution.