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Ukrainian Navy to install American weapons on "Island" class boats

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Ukrainian Navy to install American weapons on "Island" class boats

Ukrainian boats of the Island type, received from the United States in 2019, will be rearmed with American weapons systems that were dismantled during the transfer. This was reported by the "Ukrainian Militar Portal" with reference to sources in the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.


According to the newspaper, the patrol boats P190 "Slavyansk" and P191 "Starobelsk" will receive "native" weapons, dismantled during the transfer of boats to Ukraine. Initially, the boats were equipped with an automatic 25-mm artillery mount Mk 38 Mod 0 Bushmaster and two M2 Browning machine guns of 12,7 mm caliber. When the re-equipment will be carried out and at whose expense, the publication does not report.

Currently, the boats are equipped with 25-mm Soviet automatic cannons M-110, earlier it was proposed to equip boats with SET-72 torpedoes with a caliber of 400 mm and 30-mm AK-306 artillery mounts. It is emphasized that this weapon is installed "temporarily".

At the same time, three new Island-class boats, scheduled for delivery this year, are due to arrive from the United States with US-made combat modules and ship systems installed. It is specified that the armament of the boats is coordinated with the command of the Naval Forces of Ukraine. Also, the Ukrainian media have repeatedly reported that the boats planned for transfer will be additionally equipped with short-range anti-ship missiles BGM-176B Griffin.

The command of the Ukrainian Navy is in favor of the unification of naval artillery systems, since the armament of ships of the Ukrainian fleet systems of Soviet and Western production negatively affects the defense capability.
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  1. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 28 January 2021 09: 21
    0
    Ukrainian Navy on "Island" class boats

    They also began to divide patrol boats by class! Good only in the title of the article, but the classifier is already bursting at the seams!
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 28 January 2021 09: 24
      +2
      will receive "native" weapons, dismantled during the transfer of boats to Ukraine.
      At least something must be done through the sale. At least arrange it as a weapon cleaning service.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 28 January 2021 10: 03
        -3
        Quote: NDR-791
        At least something needs to be done through the sale

        And will they also hold new toilets? repeat lol
        hi
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 28 January 2021 10: 04
          0
          With a connection to the shore, otherwise they will resist again wassat
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 28 January 2021 10: 06
            -2
            Quote: NDR-791
            With a connection to the shore, otherwise they will resist again

            And welded to the pier like the submarine "Ukraine" laughing
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 28 January 2021 10: 10
              0
              What difference does it make for Russia in arming these old troughs, when these boats are sunk in the first minutes of the conflict - after all, it's not serious to take a bag of rust as a prize for victory! laughing
            2. NDR-791
              NDR-791 28 January 2021 10: 14
              0
              Uh ... It happens ...
            3. alexmach
              alexmach 28 January 2021 11: 11
              +2
              "Zaporozhye" actually
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 28 January 2021 11: 29
                -2
                Thank you hi
                I do not know why, but I constantly confuse the name of this "unsinkable" rarity laughing
            4. cat Rusich
              cat Rusich 28 January 2021 19: 16
              +1
              Quote: Lipchanin

              And welded to the pier like the submarine "Ukraine" laughing
              There is a "cruiser" in Ukraine ...
              Ukraine cruiser
              He or "HER" the same fit "to the pier to weld."
              rkr ukraine
              Born as "Admiral Lobov" - renamed to "Ukraine".
        2. Reviews
          Reviews 28 January 2021 11: 20
          +1
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Quote: NDR-791
          At least something needs to be done through the sale

          And will they also hold new toilets? repeat lol
          hi

          In short supply. Because of "Cook"
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 January 2021 09: 40
      -1
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Only the title of the article is good, but the classifier is already bursting at the seams!

      For Ukraine, it will do, all the same there are none. And the name corresponds - the class "Island", it is directly said for the island to "swim".
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 28 January 2021 10: 04
        -2
        Quote: tihonmarine
        For Ukraine, it will do, all the same there are none.

        Will steal from somebody lol
        They didn't even have their own language, they pulled words from their neighbors laughing hi
    3. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 28 January 2021 10: 02
      -2
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      but the classifier is already bursting at the seams!

      Out of indignation lol
  2. evgen1221
    evgen1221 28 January 2021 09: 24
    0
    And rightly, it is worthless for the owners to retrain for other weapons, and so they came and already everything of their own and at the expense of Ukraine. Whisper.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 28 January 2021 10: 17
      -1
      The main thing there is that the cannon fodder will be Ukrainian - it will be a pity even to spend the Ball with Bastion on these troughs! It will be necessary in Sevastopol to keep an eye on several bronze cannons firing stone cannonballs. laughing
      In the end, use three-inches from the First World ...
      1. Reviews
        Reviews 28 January 2021 11: 23
        +3
        Quote: hydrox
        cannon fodder

        Not ... In the light of the events of the last 5-10 years, the old term "cannon fat" has started to play with new colors. :(
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 28 January 2021 11: 54
          0
          Oh, how much zhovto-blakitnost from this term carries!
          You think it can take root (I liked it! laughing )
  3. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 28 January 2021 09: 36
    -1
    Ukrainian boats of the Island type, received from the United States in 2019, will be re-equipped with American weapons systems that were dismantled during the transfer.

    And whoever doubts, their weapons are gone, and they are not producing them. It's time to get used to it, to live in debt.
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 28 January 2021 11: 18
      0
      And whoever doubts, their weapons are gone, and they are not producing them. It's time to get used to it, to live in debt.

      Yes, everything is there. It's just that the original gun has a good stabilized carriage, designed for its mass, and they screwed something in its place, of course, but it's hard to get out of it. In short, my resume - there is absolutely nothing to be happy about. This will increase their combat effectiveness. And there is nothing to shake "Iskander".
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 January 2021 11: 31
        -2
        Quote: alexmach
        In short, my resume - there is absolutely nothing to be happy about. This will increase their combat effectiveness. And there is nothing to shake "Iskander".

        "Iskander" was frightened by the Ukrainian "Island", even his legs were shaking, just as the wolf was frightened by a hare when he saw a saucepan on his head.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 28 January 2021 11: 34
          +1
          Yes, and not scared of course, but to spend even such a rocket as Uranus on such a trifle is somehow a pity, even though it seems to have been created for a trifle. And this mosquito fleet can still create problems, at least by diverting resources to track it.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 28 January 2021 11: 57
            -2
            Quote: alexmach
            And this mosquito fleet can still cause problems, at least by diverting resources to track it.

            Honestly, in vain we scratch our tongues here, it would be because of what, but because of the boat - it is better to remain silent.
          2. hydrox
            hydrox 28 January 2021 12: 01
            0
            Can not.
            One light anti-ship missile from any fighter and a skiff trough.
            If you think about it, you can try something else anti-tank, not the freshest ...
            Maybe Chrysanthemum will cope ...
  4. askort154
    askort154 28 January 2021 09: 39
    +4
    And the boat turns ... and the boat turns ... into a "missile cruiser" of the Ukrainian Coast Guard. And at this time, in reality:
    Yesterday, the government of Ukraine determined the fate of the missile cruiser Ukraine, which has been rusting at the dock for decades. Remove the remnants of weapons from him and put up for sale. If there are no people willing to buy, then recycle it. (Ukraine, "Korespondent net." 27.01.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX)
    1. Stepan S
      Stepan S 28 January 2021 10: 07
      +1
      Quote: askort154
      If there are no people willing to buy, then dispose of it.

      They will be given to the workers for cutting into metal to pay off the wage arrears.
      1. halpat
        halpat 28 January 2021 11: 01
        0
        Quote: Stepan S
        Quote: askort154
        If there are no people willing to buy, then dispose of it.

        They will be given to the workers for cutting into metal to pay off the wage arrears.

        I think that there, and so everything that is more or less suitable has long been sawed off, unscrewed and taken away to garages, sheds and dachas.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 January 2021 10: 16
      -1
      Quote: askort154
      If there are no people willing to buy, then recycle it. (Ukraine, "Korespondent net." 27.01.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX)

      It has been under construction for five years, has been at the pier for 30 years. Who will buy it? If you can buy a newer one in the USA. They will drive on "nails", but they will not reach India, they will drown.
      Let them bring them to Kiev and put them up as a monument (you can make a disco).
      1. Reviews
        Reviews 28 January 2021 11: 28
        +2
        It took five years to build

        The wiki says it's even sadder:

        In the summer of 1984, construction of the ship began at the 61 Communards shipyard in Nikolaev by order of the USSR Navy.
        On August 11, 1990, the cruiser was launched.
        1 October 1993 year at 75% readiness the cruiser was withdrawn from the Russian Navy and became the property of Ukraine.
        В 1994 gA crew was formed for the ship, but due to lack of funding, the completion of the cruiser was discontinued.
        On February 17, 1998, then at the post of President of Ukraine L. D. Kuchma, decided to complete the cruiser, and the team was formed and disbanded for the second time, and the cruiser was completed by 95%.
        In total, the team was formed and filmed three times.

        Knowing full well that they would not even be able to begin the completion, they still dragged it into their property. "Don't eat it, I'll bite it!"
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 28 January 2021 11: 47
          -1
          Quote: Avis
          Knowing full well that they would not even be able to begin the completion, they still dragged it into their property. "Don't eat it, I'll bite it!"

          That's right, it was not possible to finish building, although 5% remained. Components came from hundreds of factories in the USSR, of which most simply disappeared. Russia, as a stronger state, was able to modernize and repair the Orlans, but Ukraine cannot do it (no offense is said).
          Although the cruiser sucks, a lot of money is spent on its maintenance. So it is profitable for someone to keep "scrap metal" in the sludge. Disposal will also lead to high costs. There is only one way out - to sell to India for "nails", and the head will stop hurting.
    3. hydrox
      hydrox 28 January 2021 10: 20
      -1
      It will not be possible to dispose of: there is no fuel for gas cutters, and cutting with hacksaws is very long and tedious - even worse than digging out the World Cup! yes
      1. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 28 January 2021 20: 28
        -1
        What is the problem with using "plasma" ?!
        Electricity seems to be available.
        Gas-cutting equipment nowadays - the stone age. And it is mainly used for straightening steel structures.
        For example, I forgot the last time I held the gas cutter in my hands.
  5. Svetlana
    Svetlana 28 January 2021 09: 39
    +5
    Norm. The boats should have what it was designed for when designing. No "collective farms" and priblud with other equipment and weapons.
  6. Alien From
    Alien From 28 January 2021 09: 39
    +4
    Just think ........ "Ukrainian fleet" laughing wassat
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 28 January 2021 10: 22
      0
      So what is the Commander - so is the Fleet! good
    2. Reviews
      Reviews 28 January 2021 11: 29
      +4
      Quote: Alien From
      Just think ........ "Ukrainian fleet" laughing wassat

      You have a typo in the word "raft".
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 28 January 2021 12: 15
        +2
        However, you are a certified linguist: today is your lucky day: first the fat, now here is the raft ... yes
        1. Reviews
          Reviews 28 January 2021 13: 51
          +1
          Quote: hydrox
          However, you are a certified linguist: today is your lucky day: first the fat, now here is the raft ... yes

          No, navy / raft is an old joke. :) "Our kite and naval raft!"
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 28 January 2021 16: 29
            0
            A good joke, a kind one: you can even tell children: with Ukrainian flair, so that it is clear where the legs grow from - children must also understand such jokes so that by the time they grow up they already understand something about "non-brothers".
            1. Reviews
              Reviews 28 January 2021 16: 39
              0
              When I first saw the joke about kites, I immediately remembered the experiments with observation kites in the XNUMXth and early XNUMXth centuries. You look, somewhere a reconnaissance satellite will come off ...


  7. nnm
    nnm 28 January 2021 09: 47
    +2
    The source indicated in the article also shows the cost of the work:
    1. askort154
      askort154 28 January 2021 09: 58
      +1
      nnm..In the source indicated in the article, the cost of the work is also given:

      Do not trash the site IN Khokhlomova. negative
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 28 January 2021 10: 07
        -2
        Quote: askort154
        Do not trash the site IN Khokhlomova.

        And Khokhlosurzhik too laughing
    2. Avior
      Avior 28 January 2021 10: 06
      -2
      You misunderstood the text, sorry.
      This is the price that could be if they were not armed with American weapons.
      Earlier, there was a training of possibilities, and two Island-type patrol boats were equipped with an offensive set of protection:

      modernized artillery system AK-306
      one-tube torpedo vehicle OTA-40

      At the same time, the defense department has a budget for the modernization of both boats in the area of ​​up to UAH 130 million (for the current year it is close to USD 4,6 million).
  8. prior
    prior 28 January 2021 09: 55
    +1
    The main thing is the tridents, do not forget to immerse the tridents.
    If you drown - Neptune may confuse and take for his ...
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 28 January 2021 10: 08
      -2
      Quote: prior
      The main thing is the tridents, do not forget to immerse the tridents.

      Such? lol
      1. prior
        prior 28 January 2021 10: 13
        +1
        They are, they are the most.
        am - horror as a formidable armed patriot.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 28 January 2021 10: 25
          -1
          Quote: prior
          - horror as a formidable armed patriot.

          Especially with such weapons lol


          And if we do ...

    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 January 2021 10: 28
      -1
      Quote: prior
      The main thing is the tridents, do not forget to immerse the tridents.

      Weld on the sides, then no one will steal, and Neptune will also be pleased.
  9. Petro_tut
    Petro_tut 28 January 2021 09: 58
    +3
    Ukraine has mastered the production of NATO ammunition?
    You will fight well, we will give cartridges
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 28 January 2021 10: 09
      0
      Quote: Petro_tut
      You will fight well, we will give cartridges

      Until then, with slingshots lol
  10. Boromir1941
    Boromir1941 28 January 2021 10: 05
    0
    they themselves do not understand that they are ruining their industry. it is smeared with honey on amerovsky ?! how did people manage to brainwash that ?! what
    1. Avior
      Avior 28 January 2021 10: 22
      0
      Ukraine does not produce naval artillery systems
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 28 January 2021 10: 36
        +1
        Quote: Avior
        Ukraine does not produce naval artillery systems
        yes yes yes
        And released yes What else yes
        Soviet shipborne 406-mm gun B-37 in a single-barreled polygon installation MP-10 in workshop No. 5 of the Novokramatorsk machine-building plant.



        BUT never again, Bandera Outskirts dare not even hope to start releasing them , in view of the complete loss of its scientific and industrial potential.

        So, what's wrong?

        I anticipate that you "parry" the comment by saying that it was a long time ago, even under Stalin ...

        Then why not turn to more recent history, 1991, or 2014?

        Look at those yearsand see what you have become now.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 28 January 2021 10: 54
          +1
          Quote: Insurgent
          Anticipating that you "parry" the comment

          Where there is something to "fend off" laughing ... Only the "cons" from the flawed-stubborn ...
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 28 January 2021 11: 08
            -1
            Quote: Insurgent
            Where is there, something to "fend off" ... Only "cons" from the flawed stubborn ...

            This is the indicator of your rightness.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 28 January 2021 11: 07
          -2
          Quote: Insurgent
          Look into those years and see what you have become now.

          "And on the free steppe, free will walk, horses and people" ...
        3. Avior
          Avior 28 January 2021 11: 45
          0
          Does it burn so badly that you have to write something about topics that you don't understand at all?
          The b-37 gun was produced right before the war in Leningrad in the volume of 12 barrels.
          In Kramatorsk, only cradles were made for them
          The cradle with all the mechanisms of the swinging part for the first gun was made by Novokramatorsk Machine-Building Plant

          Not tools.
          And these guns ceased to be produced at the beginning of the war, and production was no longer restored.
          in view of the complete loss of its scientific and industrial potential.

          50 years before the emergence of Ukraine, this potential was lost. But you don't seem to care what nonsense you say.
          hi
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 28 January 2021 13: 09
            +2
            Quote: Avior
            50 years before the emergence of Ukraine, this potential was lost.

            Clear yes ,clear yes "Soviets" are to blame yes

            And since 1991, and even more so, Maidan, the Outskirts have finally risen ...

            People like you, Avior, are called "cool" yes It can be translated as "twist", from any position you twist into a "reversal".

            Even from that ... pit where the Outskirts are.
            1. Avior
              Avior 28 January 2021 14: 31
              0
              Is it bad with understanding Russian?
              These weapons have never been produced in Ukraine, and their production in the USSR ceased 80 years ago. Is it clear?
              Or did you just jump in and the meaning of what was written does not interest you?
              Then I will not interfere
              hi
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 28 January 2021 10: 40
      0
      Quote: Boromir1941
      they themselves do not understand that they are ruining their industry. it is smeared with honey on amerovsky ?! how did people manage to brainwash that ?!

      And what about the fi ... rural industry? And the brains just work in the sense that "you can grab this and dump it over the hill" No flushing is required!
    3. Insurgent
      Insurgent 28 January 2021 11: 01
      +2
      Quote: Boromir1941
      how did people manage to brainwash that ?!


  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 January 2021 10: 10
    0
    When will the refurbishment be carried out and at whose expense
    It is clear that in this case the Americans will not install anything for free. You will have to pay for weapons and work, and of course, purchase ammunition for these weapons. Here today at Skabeeva's program "Ukrainian tribune" Gordey boasted how many millions the United States would allocate to them, incl. and along the Pentagon line. Here is the money for the rearmament of the boats, the required amount will simply remain in the United States.
  12. APASUS
    APASUS 28 January 2021 10: 15
    0
    This is what I understand, they gave a masterful boost to Ukraine. The boats were given away for nothing, but they will take more than one price for operation.
  13. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 28 January 2021 10: 18
    0
    The Ukrainian Navy already sounds funny ...
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 28 January 2021 10: 27
      0
      Quote: Alexey-74
      The Ukrainian Navy already sounds funny ...

      But he is lol
  14. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 28 January 2021 10: 29
    +4
    5 boats with artillery and missile weapons are already a force to be reckoned with.

    Of course, they will not go to war against us, but they will be able to arrange some kind of provocation.

    The United States will continue to pump up Ukraine with weapons and push for war.

    We need to neutralize this threat:

    - by economic measures, to do everything possible to reduce the income of Ukraine itself, to stop the transit of gas, oil and everything that brings money to the Maidan authorities, to put pressure on competition in the international market in all directions from grain to metals;

    - strengthen your army and navy;

    - to help all willing citizens of Ukraine to move to Russia on a permanent basis with obtaining citizenship under the accelerated program, we must give the opportunity to those who love Russia and feel part of it, to work for Russia, and not for the Bandera, nationalist government.

    In general, the authorities in Russia are already doing all this, but there is no need to stop, it is necessary to increase the pace.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 January 2021 11: 10
      0
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      5 boats with artillery and missile weapons are already a force to be reckoned with.

      Of course, they will not go to war against us, but they will be able to arrange some kind of provocation.

      And who would argue, they will rush under the tanks with a bottle of vodka. (you can't do without humor).
    2. Avior
      Avior 28 January 2021 12: 08
      0
      These are patrol boats, which no one passes off as shock
      Strike with the process - corvettes and missile boats with modern Norwegian anti-ship missiles
    3. Vladimir Mashkov
      Vladimir Mashkov 28 January 2021 20: 18
      0
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      5 boats with artillery and missile weapons are already a force to be reckoned with.

      Yes, you are right, although the boats are used, they are not so bad: long range, speed up to 30 knots, seaworthiness up to 5 points. The question is in what technical condition are they ...
  15. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 28 January 2021 10: 39
    -2
    Ukrainian Navy to install American weapons on "Island" class boats


    Guns and ammunition will be bought from the Yankees for fabulous money, well done, they are doing everything right good
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 28 January 2021 12: 41
      -1
      Money is not a problem, the United States will allocate as much money to Ukraine for weapons as necessary, they do not regret anything in order to harm Russia.

      In addition, such "help" shows the Maidan authorities that they support them in all anti-Russian undertakings, which allows them to act insolent and meaner.
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 28 January 2021 12: 45
        -1
        Well, yes, as long as they buy ammunition from the Yankees at exorbitant prices, ordinary people will scatter in all directions.
        And the Bandershtat will only have to carry out a provocation so that Russia can conquer and feed them.
        These bums are not capable of more.
  16. Reviews
    Reviews 28 January 2021 11: 17
    -1
    "Military" ...
    "Army, mova, vira" ...
  17. Constanty
    Constanty 28 January 2021 11: 38
    +2
    The Ukrainian ships in Sevastopol or those that were captured in the battle at the bridge were armed (maybe not counting the tug), and nothing came of it.

    It is not the armament that decides, but the people - their spirit, openness and ability to sacrifice.
    Apparently, no one wants to even try to fight for an independent Ukraine when a conflict situation arises. This is not a murder of defenseless neighbors, as in Volyn.
    So to arm these boats is an empty gesture. And so they will surrender without a fight when it comes to conflict.
  18. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 28 January 2021 18: 02
    +1
    And even today the dillies have licked the "sleepy Joe", calling him "a descendant of the Kiev princes."
  19. tarackanovaleksei
    tarackanovaleksei 1 February 2021 09: 37
    0
    More American toilet bowls included, toilet paper and a brush.