"Does not take into account Russia's new weapons": Republicans are against the extension of the START-3 treaty for five years

In the House of Representatives of the US Congress, Senior Republican Foreign Affairs Committee Representative Michael McCall and Senior Republican Committee on Armed Services Mike Rogers criticized the White House. The reason was the decision of the administration of President Joseph Biden to prolong for a five-year period the agreement with the Russian Federation concerning the further reduction and limitation of strategic offensive arms (START).

A joint statement by Republican Congressmen appeared yesterday on the official website of the Foreign Affairs Committee.

In addition, GOP lawmakers noted that the US nuclear deterrent capability needs upgrading.

The Republicans opposed the extension of START-3 for five years because, in their opinion, it does not take into account the new weapons that have appeared in the arsenal of Russia.

It is disappointing that the Biden administration missed the opportunity to negotiate a more serious version of a new treaty that would include non-strategic nuclear weapons and a strong verification regime.

- noted in the statement of McCall and Rogers.

In their opinion, due to the extension of the agreement for a long time without additional conditions, the United States will lose its leverage on Russia.

On Tuesday, the Russian Federation and the United States agreed to renegotiate the START Treaty for a period until February 5, 2026. Yesterday the State Duma deputies unanimously approved the ratification of this agreement.

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[cniza]

In their opinion, due to the extension of the agreement for a long time without additional conditions, the United States will lose its leverage on Russia.

You have no leverage, that's why you are going to renew the contract ...

[Civil]

Under Trump, the Democrats put a spoke in the wheels, under the Biden, the Republicans) Oh, they don't have a United Russia to accept everything without discussion. Parliament is not a place for debate.

[cniza]

Let them deal with their own problems, they are just beginning ...

[Alex777]

First, they missed all the time for negotiations, and then Biden is to blame for the extension of the Treaty.
Sometimes I start to think that it's not for nothing that these Republicans were banned.

[hydrox]

The Republicans have yet to come: no matter how they have to think about emigration, say, to Canada or Mexico, if suddenly D. Biden and N. Pelosi seriously rage ...

[Alex777]

Age will not allow them to rage. IMHO.
Add Biden with Pelosi and Clinton - more than 200 years will turn out. They can go to the Almighty in 1 day ...

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Republicans WRONG: New Russian Armaments do not fit under the START treaty in view of the absence so far. To include them, a new treaty (or an amendment to the old one) is needed, which the Americans will certainly begin to "break through" as soon as.

[Alex777]

new Russian weapons are not subject to START.

Sarmat 100% fits.
And so are the Vanguard bearers.
Only the Vanguard goes one instead of 3 normal BBs.
We determine the balance of BB and carriers ourselves.
The number of those and others is spelled out in START-3.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

"Sarmat" will only be in 2022.
"Vanguard", of course, has been deployed, but only in one division.

[Alex777]

"Vanguard", of course, has been deployed, but only in one division.

Do you really need more? An expensive pleasure.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Maybe, of course, the media are lying, but:

"The START-3 Treaty actually limits the nuclear arms race, and the extension of the agreement on the same terms can be considered an important diplomatic victory, "said Elena Panina, member of the State Duma Committee on International Affairs.
“Earlier, the (Donald) Trump administration tried to add to it requirements for limiting new weapons, such as the Dagger, Avangard and Poseidon, which are the Russian response to the American attempt to bypass other agreements - on missile defense, but Moscow managed to convince the opponent in the need to put them in a separate agreement, "- said the deputy."

Maybe you have some other information?

[Alex777]

No other graying. And the 5 year re-entry is really good for us.
I would not dare to call it a victory.
Ours were not led to blackmail Trump. It's good.
And Biden has no time for anything but an extension. So I see.

[alexmach]

spoiling the next one is quite normal presidential practice.

[cniza]

Quote: Alex777

First, they missed all the time for negotiations, and then Biden is to blame for the extension of the Treaty.
Sometimes I start to think that it's not for nothing that these Republicans were banned.

Maybe not in vain, but in general we have something to do, the main thing is to protect our interests ...

[Alex777]

but in general we have something to do, the main thing is to protect our interests ...

I agree. Our SNW have been modernized.
And the States are just going to start.
And the public debt with the coronavirus does not sleep with them.

[cniza]

Therefore, they become so docile, Trump tried to bluff. but he was not allowed to further wishful thinking with his stolen - duper weapon ...

[halpat]

Quote: Civil

Under Trump, the Democrats put a spoke in the wheels, under the Biden, the Republicans) Oh, they don't have a United Russia to accept everything without discussion. Parliament is not a place for debate.

Everything is much cooler with them.
Do you have an opinion different from the line of the Democratic Party? - they will be banned from the Internet, they will not be allowed on the plane, they will be fired from work, your children will knock on you, and perhaps go to jail.
This is not for you not free release of a twice convicted patient on a suspended sentence to Berlin.

[NDR-791]

It is disappointing that the Biden administration missed the opportunity to negotiate a more serious version of a new treaty that would include non-strategic nuclear weapons and a strong verification regime.
Let's go. Butt separately with us and China. And the flag in your hands and a drum in the belly and a tailwind in the proud Republican back

[cniza]

And where to go, they have fun times ahead, which they created all over the world, and now they will have ...

[hydrox]

But the Russian Duma has already ratified this treaty YESTERDAY !!!
And our diputans cannot look into the skull box - why did they decide to go to such a shame !?

[Maki maki]

Quote: cniza

You have no leverage, so you go to renew the contract

They are looking for a lever ... The START-3 treaty implies parity between the Russian Federation and the United States. There can be no levers.

[cniza]

By this they say once again that they are not playing fair, they always want to have an advantage ...

[maxxavto]

albeit not a lever, but all the same, these are mutual checks and exchange of telemetry during test launches

[alexmach]

This is a continuation of the treaties that the USSR signed. But they still had to reckon with the USSR. They just wanted to write more restrictions for Russia in the new treaty. Did not work out.

[venik]

Quote: Maki Maki

They are looking for a lever ... The START-3 treaty implies parity between the Russian Federation and the United States. There can be no levers.

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Do they need it (parity)? They are spoiled to such an extent that only that an agreement that allows them to put pressure on a partner, "twist his hands" and limit everything in what is possible ....
And the word "parity" - they have completely forgotten! What "parity" can there be for a "hegemon"?

[ser-pov]

In their opinion, due to the extension of the agreement for a long time without additional conditions, the United States will lose its leverage on Russia.
The Republicans started an old song about the main thing.

[Alex777]

The Republicans started an old song about the main thing.

They have nothing more to say. So they whine.
And Biden is great. Didn't expect from him.

[rusich]

And the mug will not crack at the Republicans to take into account the new weapons of Russia.

[bar]

the Biden administration missed the opportunity to negotiate a more serious version of a new treaty that would include non-strategic nuclear weapons and a strong verification regime.

Who is hindering the conclusion of a new agreement "which would include"? Go for it. It's not all the same for us to walk to you with outstretched hand, now it's your turn

[tihonmarine]

The Republicans opposed the extension of the START III treaty for five years because

An interesting people, the Republicans, opposed the extension of the START-3 treaty proposed by Trump. And where were you when the Democrats cleaned up your Trump. It's too late to drink Borjomi, now it's not Trump who calls the tune, but Biden.

[ANB]

And that's all, that's all. But it should have been earlier. Now no one cares about the opinion of the Republicans. Their lot now is to apologize and repent :)

[Zaurbek]

And in the Russian Federation they hastened to accept ... in the Duma. Now we will comply, but the Americans won't?

[Stepan S]

Quote: Zaurbek

And in the Russian Federation they hastened to accept ... in the Duma. Now we will comply, but the Americans won't?

We saw in the movies how presidents sign contracts and then exchange, that's how it should be here. The President still has to sign after the approval of the State Duma and Federation Council.

[Avior]

Usually overcome
Presidents sign an agreement, parliaments ratify it, and only then does it take effect
But there are nuances, for example, when it comes to extending an existing contract

[maxxavto]

the contract is bilateral, if one party does not ratify, the other party, as they say, washes its hands

[rotmistr60]

Disappointing that the Biden administration missed the opportunity to negotiate a more serious version of the new treaty

They are dissatisfied with the fact that they did not set their conditions that were beneficial only to them. I'm worried, I'm very worried about Russia's new weapons. They (the Republicans) would be better off defending their president with such zeal as they begin to express their dissatisfaction with the newly elected one.

[APASUS]

Of course, you can include our new weapons in the START Treaty, but then the Americans have to include the nuclear arsenals of Great Britain and France. And it sometimes turns out even ridiculous. British boats are equipped with American Trident nuclear missiles, and we are told that England is a sovereign state ... ...............etc

[Konstantin Shevchenko]

They extended it because they do not want to do this, it is difficult and tedious, it is easier to leave it as it is. And what the Republicans want is imaginary dividends. The Democrats turned out to be more progmatic on this issue.

[smaug78]

"Does not take into account Russia's new weapons": Republicans are against the extension of the START-3 treaty for five years

The correct translation is part of the die-hard against. There are their comrades-in-arms on the topvar ...

[tralflot1832]

So Poseidon, we ourselves do not know why, there are only four Vanguards, we still cannot catch the Petrel. Why be afraid?

[Quadro]

And after all, there are still fools running around here, shouting that our only cartoons can do. Whether it’s the Americans recently showed cartoons, and they were probably suckers, once they were scared of Putin’s cartoons, iksperdy here say it's cartoons.

[Tagan]

Quote: Civil

Under Trump, the Democrats put a spoke in the wheels, under the Biden, the Republicans) Oh, they don't have a United Russia to accept everything without discussion. Parliament is not a place for debate.

But they are generally moving towards a one-party system. So United Russia in this sense still has to work and work))

[Lord of the Sith]

"Does not take into account Russia's new weapons": Republicans are against the extension of the START-3 treaty for five years

Give even more amerikosracha)))
They are there naturally like spiders in a bank, they eat each other)))
It remains to stock up not with popcorn, since this is fu, but with beer and crackers, American clowns will amuse us for a long time

[Dmitry Potapov]

The United States would never have gone to prolongation without any reservations about START if the priest had not been on fire,

[Metallurg_2]

I wonder if they generally have a situation where the president has a majority of his party in both chambers of Congress?
Or do they have such a national amusement: in one chamber there is one majority, in the other - another, and each chamber in another chamber puts a spoke in the wheels of the "alien" president?

[Old26]

In addition, GOP lawmakers noted that the US nuclear deterrent capability needs upgrading.

Well, who's stopping them. Let them modernize.

Quote: Alex777

I agree. Our SNW have been modernized.

Our SNAO MODERNIZED. We still have a lot of work to do in order to completely modernize our strategic nuclear forces. This will take significantly more than 5 years ...

Quote: hydrox

But the Russian Duma has already ratified this treaty YESTERDAY !!!
And our diputans cannot look into the skull box - why did they decide to go to such a shame !?

So what? At the same time, they showed who is for the race and who is trying to avoid it. Republican efforts will get nowhere. The agreement will also pass through American lawmakers. Biden has more opportunities to ratify in this regard than Trump

Quote: cniza

want to always have the advantage ...

And what will be the advantage? Under the agreement, the number of deployed media for each of the parties is 700 units. The number of deployed BB - 1550 units. The number of deployed and not deployed funds is 800. Within this amount, everyone decides for himself. But at the same time 100% parity in the number of BB

Quote: rusich

And the mug will not crack at the Republicans to take into account the new weapons of Russia.

Will not crack. Avangard is taken into account in the START-3 treaty; Sarmat will be taken into account after it is put into service. "Dagger" and "Zircon" are unlikely to be taken into account. "Petrel" and "Poseidon" if they ever get to the series - then they will talk about them. Although this is unlikely to happen in the 5 years of the existence of START-3

[Old26]

Quote: lvov_aleksey

the stars and stripes have no negotiators

Yeah. So, the ABM treaties, the SALT-1 and SALT-2 treaties, the START-1, START-2, SORT and START-3 treaties were not developed by negotiators from the American side, but probably unemployed people recruited on the streets of American cities?

Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko

They extended it because they do not want to do this, it is difficult and tedious, it is easier to leave it as it is.

And when to do it, when from the moment the new president takes office until the end of the contract - only 17 days. Time will pass, and START-4 will be engaged.

Quote: APASUS

Of course, you can include our new weapons in the START Treaty, but then the Americans should include the nuclear arsenals of Great Britain and France.

The British and French are not parties to the START III treaty. But some of our weapons systems fall under the restrictions of the treaty. In particular, Avangard and Sarmat - 3%.

[Jaromir]

Republicans against the extension of START III for five years

You have already missed yours. They recognized the coup d'etat legal, recognizing Biden as the winner of the election. So, now we will negotiate without you.

[Jaromir]

On Tuesday, the Russian Federation and the United States agreed to renegotiate the START Treaty for a period until February 5, 2026. Yesterday the State Duma deputies unanimously approved the ratification of this agreement.

And this is good news.

[Old26]

Quote: Alex777

Only the Vanguard goes one instead of 3 normal BBs.

Instead of 6 conventional BBs

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

"Sarmat" will only be in 2022.

And it will fall under the ceilings of the START-3 treaty, like "new rocket"

[Old26]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

Maybe, of course, the media are lying, but:

"The START-3 Treaty actually limits the nuclear arms race, and the extension of the agreement on the same terms can be considered an important diplomatic victory, "said Elena Panina, member of the State Duma Committee on International Affairs.
“Earlier, the (Donald) Trump administration tried to add to it requirements for limiting new weapons, such as the Dagger, Avangard and Poseidon, which are the Russian response to the American attempt to bypass other agreements - on missile defense, but Moscow managed to convince the opponent in the need to put them in a separate agreement, "- said the deputy."

Maybe you have some other information?

The Dagger is really not one of those systems that can be limited by the START III treaty. At least until they are deployed on strategic bombers. "Poseidon" - such a weapon system does not yet exist. Announced - yes. In reality, it is not. Therefore, it does not yet fall under the contract.
But about the "Vanguard" Madame Panina was a little deceitful. Carrier 15A35 (15A35-71) on which Avangard is installed is one of the systems that are subject to the provisions of the agreement. So Avangard falls under the extended START-3

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