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The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine plans to start testing the wheeled self-propelled guns "Bogdana"

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The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine plans to start testing the wheeled self-propelled guns "Bogdana"

The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine intends in the near future to start testing the wheeled ACS "Bogdana", created in a single copy. According to Defense Express, the military department has approached the management of the Kramatorsk Heavy Machine-Tool Building Plant where the howitzer is located.


The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine plans to carry out the preliminary tests of the Bogdana as soon as possible in order to determine the real capabilities of the ACS and its compliance with certain requirements. After this stage, it is already planned to conduct state tests and take the howitzer into service, launching mass production.

It is emphasized that the Ukrainian military intends to receive the Bogdan self-propelled guns into service "in the near future."

As previously reported, Ukraine found ammunition for state tests of the Bogdana self-propelled artillery mount, 155-mm shells were supplied by the Czech company Excalibur Army at the end of December 2020. The delivery included practical and high-explosive fragmentation ammunition.

Note that the ACS has not been tested for more than a year due to the lack of NATO-caliber ammunition, for which the Bogdan was developed. The last shooting was reported at the end of 2019. The howitzer was tested at a training ground in the Dnepropetrovsk region. At the "zero" stage of testing self-propelled weapon checked by hydroshot (hydro-firing), then the so-called inert ammunition was used. The matter did not come to live shooting, the reason was not named.

It is alleged that the tests confirmed the ability of the ACS to fire at a rate of up to 6 rounds per minute. According to early statements from the developers, the maximum range when firing an active-rocket projectile is 60 km.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 27 January 2021 13: 56
    +3
    But interestingly, now this self-propelled gun is moving on the KrAZ BSh, but in the future, what and whose BS are going to use? On "Neptune" it was replaced by "Tatra" and in the total price of this missile system, upon purchase, the price of the BS "Tatra" was about HALF. But how much will it cost in such an SPG?
    1. Cowbra
      Cowbra 27 January 2021 14: 03
      +9
      It is much more interesting where the trunks will be taken. Have they ever let them out there at all ?! I remember they had a gag with the tank ...
      Even more interesting - why do they need a wheeled ACS? You can still understand the wheeled on the roads, or in the rocky desert. But in Ukraine! The roads were gouged into rubbish, and there weren't a lot of them anyway. And outside the roads - there is either mud up to its ears, or snow mountains, there and the tank will not go everywhere, and such a fool will get up right away. It is clear that it is caused by the inability to build caterpillar tracks - there is no armor in the country, no money, but after all, this fool will only come in handy for parades
      1. svp67
        svp67 27 January 2021 14: 10
        0
        Quote: Cowbra
        The roads were gouged into rubbish, and there weren't a lot of them anyway.

        Here you are wrong. What, what, but the roads in Ukraine during the time of the USSR were set up a lot, a lot. Another thing is that for a very long time they did not take proper care of them, but here again "but". Since last summer, Zelensky has announced and is now carrying out the so-called "Big Construction", and they now have highly developed road construction, they are building a lot.
        Quote: Cowbra
        Even more interesting - why do they need a wheeled ACS?

        First, they will look for a foreign partner to sell it. In addition, a wheeled self-propelled gun, in operation, is much cheaper than a tracked one. Well, you are not surprised that all MLRS are installed on a wheeled BSh
        1. Cowbra
          Cowbra 27 January 2021 14: 19
          +2
          Here with what to compare. In order to transport goods, for example, the transit of the Russian Federation-Europe - with a slide. Well, in general, it's not bad for the economy. But if you take a map and look at the DB area. Take the Mariupol direction. There is such an ACS - a mouse in a bank, one path, trees on the right and left, and the branches are a primer, where this elephant will sit on the bottom right away.
          This is not Europe, where there are no forest fields - only roads. Here "crap and the steppe all around", and not Mongolian, but in black soil and the "tablet" will be buried head over heels
          1. svp67
            svp67 27 January 2021 14: 21
            +4
            Quote: Cowbra
            where this elephant will sit on the bottom right away.

            Come on, "Points", "Tornadoes" do not sit down, why would this sit down, and such a concept as "engineering support" has not been canceled.
      2. vvvjak
        vvvjak 27 January 2021 14: 13
        +1
        And she looks like "dumb" kind. It feels like it will roll over after the first shot.
        1. svp67
          svp67 27 January 2021 14: 59
          +4
          Quote: vvvjak
          And she looks like "dumb" kind. It feels like it will roll over after the first shot.

          And why such a conclusion? Of course, we'll see, but somehow these don't turn over ... and fight


          1. vvvjak
            vvvjak 27 January 2021 15: 09
            -1
            The center of gravity is high (well, at least visually) and there are no side stops.
            1. svp67
              svp67 27 January 2021 15: 12
              +4
              Quote: vvvjak
              no side stops.

              And then she doesn't need them, she has a limited horizontal firing angle. And even more so these are tests, let's see what comes out at the final stage
            2. Petro_tut
              Petro_tut 27 January 2021 21: 59
              0
              Under the casing from the top, there should probably be anti-rollback devices, so it shouldn't tip over
          2. Cowbra
            Cowbra 27 January 2021 15: 10
            0
            Compare the second picture to this:

            The center of gravity of the implement is far behind, actually at the end of the outriggers. It is unlikely, of course, that it will be cured, but it seems that the recoil will not go to the paws, and the curbstone will be twisted from the body. And what is most amusing is that I presented myself there as a loader. I'm with a 40-kg projectile (if I'm lucky, otherwise there will be all 50) - will I charge in the jump? !!! Yes, I really can't jump to the castle without a shell !!!
            1. svp67
              svp67 27 January 2021 15: 15
              +2
              Quote: Cowbra
              I'm with a 40-kg projectile (if I'm lucky, otherwise there will be all 50) - will I charge in the jump? !!! Yes, I really can't jump to the castle without a shell !!!

              Behind the breech you see such an "openwork" design ... so it will help the loader, there is a tray with a ranger
              1. Cowbra
                Cowbra 27 January 2021 15: 18
                +1
                Yes, the fact of the matter is that I have been looking at these pictures for a long time, and I did not understand, there is some kind of mechanization ... It seems not. And even if this is a lowered tray, I haven't seen a single photo where this crap is at the level of the castle, either, you know ... to move 40 kg shells, throwing them above your head, even on the tray - spit in the face of that, who said about the rate of fire of 6 rounds per minute.
              2. halpat
                halpat 27 January 2021 15: 48
                +4
                Quote: svp67
                Quote: Cowbra
                I'm with a 40-kg projectile (if I'm lucky, otherwise there will be all 50) - will I charge in the jump? !!! Yes, I really can't jump to the castle without a shell !!!

                Behind the breech you see such an "openwork" design ... so it will help the loader, there is a tray with a ranger

                And if it doesn't help, then the racers have been training in jumping for the last 7 years for a reason. smile
            2. Petro_tut
              Petro_tut 27 January 2021 22: 06
              0
              Before charging, most likely the barrel rises, there the hydraulic drive in the picture is clearly visible
      3. Vadim_888
        Vadim_888 27 January 2021 14: 25
        +2
        The Tatras have a fairly high traffic
        1. svp67
          svp67 27 January 2021 15: 03
          +4
          Quote: Vadim_888
          The Tatras have a fairly high traffic

          And what about KrAZ? Is he one of the SUVs?
    2. halpat
      halpat 27 January 2021 14: 51
      +4
      Incorrect name.
      "Paraska" would sound much better good
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 27 January 2021 16: 02
        +4
        Quote: Halpat
        "Paraska" would sound much better
        Yes, the normal name "Bogdan" - given by God! ...
        ... Where is "Bogdan", he was standing here, and right now, a smoking pit ?!
        - God gave, God took! Get away from sin! ...
  2. Piramidon
    Piramidon 27 January 2021 13: 58
    +6
    Ukraine found ammunition for state tests

    Before the battle, will they also rush about in search?
  3. Dimide
    Dimide 27 January 2021 13: 59
    +3
    So something doesn't fuse with the Czech "Dana"
    1. Vadim_888
      Vadim_888 27 January 2021 14: 26
      +3
      The price does not grow together
    2. svp67
      svp67 27 January 2021 15: 13
      -2
      Quote: Dimid
      So something doesn't fuse with the Czech "Dana"

      Why, grows together ...
  4. Ros 56
    Ros 56 27 January 2021 14: 14
    +4
    Try it, even if the people laugh. I'm afraid it will work like Hammer again.
  5. Prisoner
    Prisoner 27 January 2021 14: 15
    +4
    Worse, there are no fools with initiative. For them, the result is not important. The main process. winked
  6. igorspb
    igorspb 27 January 2021 14: 16
    +1
    the car will not burst at the first shot?
    1. businessv
      businessv 27 January 2021 14: 21
      +7
      Quote: igorspb
      the car will not burst at the first shot?

      No! Trunk first! soldier
  7. Ruslan Sledkov
    Ruslan Sledkov 27 January 2021 14: 49
    +2
    So they don't seem to make trunks. Whereas???
  8. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 27 January 2021 14: 51
    +1
    With 2C21 they were monkey, only the caliber was changed to lick the owner)))
  9. Quadro
    Quadro 27 January 2021 14: 56
    0
    It looks like an ISIS craft, I remember they said like there is AZ, but here it is not visible and it is not even clear how to load this crap and what for it is, without AZ you can take a towed cannon.
  10. Thrifty
    Thrifty 27 January 2021 15: 01
    +1
    Based on the results of the shooting, two more of these will be ordered, since there will not be enough shells for three. ...
  11. Alexander Galaktionov
    Alexander Galaktionov 27 January 2021 15: 01
    0
    Full version of the video about the use of Krasnopol in Syria from the Orlan 30 UAV https://vk.com/syriantube?z=video-55849790_456258807%2F70e370ba919fd7ac92%2Fpl_wall_-55849790
  12. Alexander Galaktionov
    Alexander Galaktionov 27 January 2021 15: 13
    +2
    We have ACS 120 mm Phlox and 152 mm 2S43 Malva
  13. Horst78
    Horst78 27 January 2021 18: 07
    +1
    And on what the chassis? Only one name remained from KraZa.
  14. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 28 January 2021 08: 20
    +1
    But they were a nuclear power. With the most powerful economic potential. Degraded to the level of slaves. At the same time, servitude in the EU countries is perceived as happiness, and prosperity. And after that, they are planning something ... funny.