"Who has more chances to win back their territories from Russia" - reflects the press of Ukraine

Three former Soviet republics, and since the early 90s of the last century, independent states, have territorial claims to Russia. These are Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine. Irakli Janashia, an expert on national security and defense of the Ukrainian Institute for the Future, speculated about the possibility of returning the territories in the Ukrainian edition of Telegraph.

Answering the relevant question of the publication, Janashia immediately stated that it is rather naive to expect the return of the territories with active opposition from Russia itself. In his opinion, the "aggressor country" will not allow the stabilization of conflicts, using them as a factor to scare NATO away from its borders.

However, if we speculate hypothetically within the framework of the question "who has more chances", then most likely Moldova has more chances to return the territory of Transnistria. In favor of this, according to Janashia, the absence of a common border between Moldova and Russia, as well as the duration of the conflict, speaks.

Another factor playing in Moldova's favor is the time factor. "Time heals" and heals scars caused even by war. Moreover, the conflict in Transnistria was much less bloody than the conflicts in Georgia or Ukraine

- the Telegraph quotes the expert's words.

Thus, the chances of Ukraine and Georgia to return their territories are negligible, Russia is not going to give up the seized lands.

Even joining NATO will not give any guarantee of security against an attack by Russia, the expert emphasizes. Any country from the former socialist camp that has a common border with the Russian Federation can become a victim of "Russian aggression". According to Janashia, even in the event of a Russian attack on the Baltic states, NATO's reaction will follow only weeks, if not months, and even then only after numerous agreements.

There is no need to indulge in the illusion that joining NATO will guarantee security. This is not so - and the NATO representatives themselves practically officially stated this, albeit in a slightly veiled form.

- the expert sums up.

Comments

[Vladimir_2U]

Irakli Janashia speculated on the possibility of returning the territories in the Ukrainian edition of Telegraph

So it begs: "a certain Irakli Janashia". ))) Although the character does not bear an outright blizzard, we must pay tribute.

[Far B]

Do not see at the root

Who has more chances to win back its territories from Russia

USSR. Or at least the RSFSR.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Irakli Janashia speculated on the possibility of returning the territories in the Ukrainian edition of Telegraph

So it begs: "a certain Irakli Janashia". ))) Although the character does not bear an outright blizzard, we must pay tribute.

We have migrant workers at markets and construction sites, and in the Outskirts - as governors, ministers, experts on national security and defense of the Ukrainian Institute of the Future ...

They came completely, damn it ...

[Vladimir_2U]

Have you seen a lot of gaster from Georgia at markets and construction sites?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Have you seen a lot of gaster from Georgia at markets and construction sites?

They do not work at construction sites, you are right ... In principle, they cannot do that. But in the markets - as many as you like ... Since the late 90s, we remember flower stalls with carnations at every stop. Now they specialize in seasoning and dried fruit-nuts - at least we do. Fruit-vegetables - Central Asia. Fish-meat-rags - Outskirts and Moldavians.

Yes! Remembered! I know a very good shoemaker. Georgian, the owner of a small booth 2x2 meters in the middle of 12-storey buildings in a residential area of ​​the city. Wife in Italian boots changed the locks like that - Italians can't sew like that.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Now they specialize in condiments and dried fruit-nuts

these are Azerbaijanis, not Georgians ...
it seems like Georgians have no specialization in the Russian market ... only thieves in law ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: NEOZ

Quote: Zoldat_A

Now they specialize in condiments and dried fruit-nuts

these are Azerbaijanis, not Georgians ...
it seems like Georgians have no specialization in the Russian market ... only thieves in law ...

Our Azerbaijanis more and more specialize in small grocery stores. Such, such as "general store", usually stand at bus stops. Also in the wholesale markets for fruits and vegetables, and at retail, in street markets, already Central Asia. And, of course, Central Asia - "shawarmen" ... There are practically no others, especially ours.

And the Georgians in the big markets of seasonings-dried fruits - stand in rows. It is the Georgians, not the Azerbaijanis - I can always distinguish some from others by conversation. I constantly buy dogwood for jam from them. It doesn't grow with us, but I love it. They do not sell it, but carry it for themselves, for the kitchen. I met one - he specially grabs 5-6 kilograms for me. It's not hard for them - they're driving trucks. Not on the train with the boxes.

The fashion for thieves-"oranges" somehow passed, not the 90s in the yard. Some were shot, some left. Somehow now more and more local people ... I won't say that I am a great connoisseur of this world, but I do not live on the Moon. There are different acquaintances on both sides of the RF Criminal Code. I don’t remember the Georgian surname now. Not like in the 90s - Gogi, Kakhi, Guram and other Vakhtangs.

And, which is typical, NO ONE has any territorial claims to Russia here. They live and trade in peace. These are probably just the Outskirts Wishlist - so that all at the same time attacked Russia "their" territories to recapture.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Zoldat_A

And the Georgians in the big markets of seasonings-dried fruits - stand in rows.

I'm talking about the state (not advertised) support of the peoples of neighboring states.
The Georgians were not given a piece of the market.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: NEOZ

Quote: Zoldat_A

And the Georgians in the big markets of seasonings-dried fruits - stand in rows.

I'm talking about the state (not advertised) support of the peoples of neighboring states.
The Georgians were not given a piece of the market.

Well, that is a given.
There is a "market" in the sense of "market economy" - so there only "Borjomi" in "Magnet" are at horse prices. And there is a "market" in the sense of "covered market" or "mini-market at home" - everything is fine there. I was talking about the second one. And the first - the thing in Russian conditions is so muddy that I do not know exactly what it is.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Who has more chances to recapture "their" territories? Georgia, Moldova, Ukraine? No one: there is no issue from Don!
And so all the local Natsiks cringe from fear and hate their fellow citizens-Russophiles ...

[boris epstein]

They had it before the war 08.08.08. Who pushed Saakashvili to start this war? South Ossetia in 1990 held a referendum on the withdrawal of their composition from Georgia.
I know a lot about Georgia. Part of Georgia towards Azerbaijan is industrial. Part of Georgia is closer to the Black Sea - gardens. And they were founded by Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria. It was then that Georgia got a part of the market in Russia. In the 70-80s of the 20th century, there were entire Georgian clans. Some people grew vegetables and fruits, some transported them to the RSFSR, some lived permanently in the RSFSR and were engaged in the sale of products. In addition to vegetables and fruits, they traded in carpets and jewelry.

[210ox]

Actually, yes. Have not seen. They are either thieves or brothel owners, and I never noticed them in the markets. In any case, in the Kuban.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Have you seen a lot of gaster from Georgia at markets and construction sites?

If about Georgian gaster, then only criminal ones. They are not accustomed to work at all, and those that hang around us control the criminal niches for stealing cars with purse-sellers, and some restaurants with Georgian cuisine. According to the "thieves" suit, out of every three with a crown, two will be Georgians.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Although the character does not carry an outright blizzard, we must pay tribute.

Just an outright blizzard and carries. Starting from "time heals wounds", and ending with "lack of a common border." How, for example, can the Russian-speaking Transnistria return if, in the spirit of the time of independence, the Russian language was banned in Moldova. In addition, if Moldova rock the boat with the force option, then Ukraine can fly for the company, with fanfare.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: orionvitt

then for the company, with fanfare, Ukraine can fly

Or it may not fly away, our leaders are painfully anxious about the current VNAU, Solovyov's angry denunciations have nothing in common with the real attitude of the leaders towards VNAU.

[NDR-791]

Irakli Janashia - National Security and Defense Expert at the Ukrainian Institute for the Future.
In my opinion, this is already enough

[Maki maki]

On VO, more and more often, the opinions of dubious experts are spread, sometimes completely inadequate.

[NDR-791]

I especially liked the title - Ukrainian Institute of the Future !!!... NII FAQ, however

[tihonmarine]

Quote: NDR-791

+3
I especially liked the name - Ukrainian Institute of the Future !!!. NII FAQ, however

The money that the state allocates to this research institute.

[NDR-791]

If it is allocated !!! Then there the entire 404th elite should be listed as MNF

[Aleksandr1971]

In general, the topic is more global.
How likely is it in the future that:
- Argentina will take the Falklands away from England. So far Argentina has calmed down and is not picking;
- The Comoros will take away Mayotte from France;
- Palestine will take the West Bank of Jordan from Israel;
- Syria will take the Golan from Israel;
- Japan will take away the South Kuriles from Russia;
- Japan will take the Dokdo Islands from South Korea;
- The PRC will take the Senkaku Islands from Japan;
- Ireland will take Northern Ireland away from England;
- India will take away the eastern Ladakh from the PRC;
- Pakistan will take away Kashmir from India;
- Estonia will take Izborsk from Russia.
In general, there are 3-4 dozen more territorial conflicts, disputes and misunderstandings in the world.

I believe that all countries should renounce all territorial claims and fix the current situation as legal. And it is necessary to abandon not only attempts to change the borders by force, but even formal legal claims. And those countries that do not accept such a decision should be expelled from the UN, and UN countries should not have any relations with them, incl. economic, transport, financial, migration, etc.

[gsev]

Quote: Alexander1971

And those countries that do not accept such a decision should be expelled from the UN, and UN countries should not have any relations with them, incl. economic, transport, financial, migration, etc.

Then from the UN it is necessary to expel states representing more than half of the world's population. But what about the United States and all the other NATO countries that claim Kosovo and do not allow Serbia to restore order there?

[Aleksandr1971]

The US and NATO are of course guilty of taking Kosovo out of Serbia. But they themselves do not claim Kosovo. And as a general rejection of territorial claims, even if Serbia would renounce Kosovo.

In fact, Serbia wants the land of Kosovo, and the inhabitants of Kosovo Serbia do not need nafig. If a miracle happened and Serbia regained Kosovo for itself, then Serbia would try to get rid of the population of Kosovo. And if it were not possible to get rid of, then this population would once again staged an armed uprising.

I am not against killing all Albanian residents of Kosovo, but it is unlikely that it will be possible in modern conditions. Or maybe so much the worse for modern conditions?

[gsev]

Quote: Alexander1971

In fact, Serbia wants the land of Kosovo, and the inhabitants of Kosovo Serbia do not need nafig.

Or maybe Serbia just wants to restore order on its territory and return there the refugees expelled by the NATO aggressors? You have a strange logic: it is more logical to put forward claims to NATO countries and not to Serbia in matters of the conflict between the Albanian mafia and the Serbian police.

[gsev]

Quote: Alexander1971

I don't mind killing all the Albanians in Kosovo,

Surely Albanians rather than Serbs suffer from the Albanian mafia. In any nation, criminals are a minority, so no one in Serbia has sought to expel or kill all Albanians. And NATO troops managed to organize an almost universal expulsion of Serbs from Kosovo and Croatia.

[Aleksandr1971]

The fact of the matter is that I am for all countries to renounce their territorial claims. Both NATO and non-NATO.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: NDR-791

NII FAQ, however

They are probably at the institute, looking at their future in a crystal ball

[NEOZ]

Quote: Maki Maki

On VO, more and more often, the opinions of dubious experts are spread, sometimes completely inadequate.

Why are you not satisfied with the opinion of the Ukrainian expert?
what do you disagree with?
What is your opinion on the merits of the issues raised?

[Maki maki]

Do you have any complaints against the Ukrainian expert?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Maki Maki

On VO, more and more often, the opinions of dubious experts are spread, sometimes completely inadequate.

At least this expert is right about something, namely that the NATO bloc will not break its fifth point for some kind of Georgia, or for Moldova and Ukraine, even if they do not express unequivocal guarantees in relation to the Balts (NATO members) their participation and are more limited to a declaration of intent and a demonstration of their presence.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Nyrobsky

At least this expert is right about something, namely, that the NATO bloc will not break its fifth point for some kind of Georgia, or for Moldova and Ukraine, even if in relation to the Balts (NATO members) they are not

Are you saying that mattress toppers will just give up their positions in all these regions? Regardless of how much money and effort they put into creating these very "controversial" territories.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Are you saying that mattress toppers will just give up their positions in all these regions?

If in Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine, then I think mattresses will not climb into a real battle. these are not NATO members, but applicants, and therefore will have to harness alone, since Europe will be covered by the fact that the article of the NATO charter on collective security does not apply to them.
As for the countries that are part of the NATO bloc, then no, of course, they will not just give up, but they will spoil everything and profit not weakly. Not for that mother raised her baby, so that she could just give up everything. But again, here's how to look at this question.
Do you seriously think that protecting Europe is a priority for the United States? As for me, Europe for the United States is just a military training ground with the removal outside the United States, on the territory of which and at the expense of which resources (human and economic) the United States is solving its strategic tasks. When the block was created, then there were no nuclear missiles, neither ballistic nor hypersonic, and there were no nuclear triads (sea, land, air). Now it can fly, from where you don't expect. Looking at Europe, the United States first of all sees a pig, which is their economic competitor and, having deployed its contingent in the EU, the United States gently holding the entire European political elite by the Adam's apple, first of all, play a restraining role in the sense that economic cooperation and development of both Europe would stall, and Russia, and the program "Common Economic Space from Lisbon to Vladivostok" has never been implemented since when China joins this process, the implementation of the program will drag the center of the world economy from the United States to Eurasia. Pumping up a hysteria about the Russian threat, the United States coped with this task for many years, until old Europe started bucking up and guessing that someone wanted to slaughter a piglet and this is probably not Russia. Then the United States formed a belt of inadequate Young Europeans. Look at the map - the Baltics, Poland, Ukraine, reliably block the land access for trade between Russia and old Europe, and these countries themselves are foolishly against the economic interests of the same Europe. Think for yourself if mattresses have a chance to force Germany or France to start a war with Russia? Probably not. And how difficult is it, under guarantees of support, to incite the "Young Europeans" into a conflict with Russia? Probably not difficult. After that, the rest of the European members of the bloc, being under the obligations of the article on collective security, like it or not, they will be forced to harness themselves into a hack, in which mattresses, under the pretext of running away for cartridges and a promise to certainly return, will stand around the corner until someone's advantage will be outlined, after which it is possible they will take part on the side of the emerging winner, in order to then rummage through the pockets of the victim as a co-winner. After 1945, they "shod" Europe not sickly. As a result, the EU and Russia will fall out of the status of a threat to the US national and economic interests for a long time. I don’t think that for this purpose it would be a pity for them to sacrifice some kind of Lithuania or Poland. If you listen to all the latest cries and warnings of mattresses about Russia's threats to European countries, then in the overwhelming majority of cases it is indicated that Russia, for some reason, absolutely wants to fuck Lithuania or Estonia, although they are not at all attractive to us.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Nyrobsky

If in Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine, then I think mattresses will not climb into a real battle. these are not NATO members, but applicants, and therefore

You snitched a lot of bukaf and it's all in vain. You are considering the military aspect of the issue. But they forgot about the economic. Let's imagine for a second - we are taking Donbass. How to do it? It's simple - to bring your troops there. And what do we get besides Donbass? The indignation of the entire world community is that Russia is the aggressor. With all that it implies. The whole (!) World provides political, informational, economic (finance, weapons) assistance to Ukraine. Fighting with Ukraine, we get a decline in living standards and a strengthening of the camp of opponents of the government. And the authorities need it? In order not to give back what they have already acquired, mattress makers do not have to enter a "real hack" at all. One mistake of Russia is enough for them - attempts to forcefully resolve the issue of Transnistria and Donbass in the current domestic economic conditions. And power will be swept away. Are you confident that the new one will be better for Russia than the current one? I am far from enthusiastic about the current government, but I have no hopes for another. Because there is a danger that it will get worse.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

You snitched a lot of bukaf and it's all in vain.

Well, thank God that you barked exactly half the number of beeches, however, you did not add specifics and left your given topic 180 degrees away. We discussed Europe and the Young Europeans with the candidates, and you were carried off to Donbass.

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Let's imagine for a second - we are taking Donbass. How to do it? It's simple - to bring your troops there. And what do we get besides Donbass? The indignation of the entire world community is that Russia is the aggressor. With all that it implies.

Here, in complete confusion, I was tempted to ask you a question - What are the prerequisites for this?

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Fighting with Ukraine, we get a decline in living standards and a strengthening of the camp of opponents of the government. And the authorities need it? In order not to give back what they have already acquired, mattress makers do not have to enter a "real hack" at all. One mistake of Russia is enough for them - attempts to forcefully resolve the issue of Transnistria and Donbass in the current domestic economic conditions.

Yeah. Then the question arises again why they did not do it in hot pursuit, when Russia returned Crimea to its jurisdiction.

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

And power will be swept away. Are you confident that the new one will be better for Russia than the current one? I am far from enthusiastic about the current government, but I have no hopes for another. Because there is a danger that it will get worse.

In principle, I am not a supporter of the use of force to change the government, and all the more I do not hope that as a result of the use of force, those who will actually improve the situation of Russian citizens will come to power, since any change entails a redistribution of portfolios and assets that lasts for years. during which those who will seize power will obviously not be up to the people, and therefore the deterioration of the current situation in the country will be guaranteed. Let's finish this topic for sim. I am not sure that you will not be carried away by the problems of environmental protection.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Nyrobsky

however, they did not add specifics and left the given topic by 180 degrees.

Forgive me, but you have obviously gone too far. I dare to notice that the topic I set is

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Are you saying that mattress toppers will just give up their positions in all these regions? Regardless of how much money and effort they put into creating these very "controversial" territories.

Those. the topic set by me is controversial territories from which mattress mats will not refuse in any case. Disputed territories between Ukraine and Russia - Donbass. And where is the 180 * turn?
So, a hint of

Quote: Nyrobsky

Let's finish this topic for sim. I am not sure that you will not be carried away by the problems of environmental protection.

is not substantiated and is only a product of your fevered imagination.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

is only a product Of your fevered imagination.

So immediately sore? What kind of interlocutor went As part of your question, I answered you

If in Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine, then I think mattresses will not climb into a real battle. these are not NATO members, but applicants, and therefore will have to harness alone, since Europe will be covered by the fact that the article of the NATO charter on collective security does not apply to them.

An example of the "decisive indecision" of mattresses can be the same story with the return of Crimea, to which the United States had great views, but "courageously" wiped away the snot and did not dare to influence the situation by force, limiting itself to economic sanctions.
As for your -

Let's imagine for a second - we are taking Donbass. How to do it? It's simple - to bring your troops there. And what do we get besides Donbass? The indignation of the entire world community is that Russia is the aggressor. With all that it implies.

- then it would be appropriate to remind you that, according to the official version of the United States, Russian troops have already been there since 2014, and therefore it is much more difficult to excite the world community with another "introduction to the introduction", because the mattresses themselves have deprived themselves of room for maneuver, and the sanctions because of the "introduction" has already been introduced against everything that was possible except for Russian mosquitoes. All the best, don't get inflamed... The topic is closed.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Nyrobsky

So immediately sore? belay What kind of interlocutor went

Well, it's Your own fault. It was necessary to carefully read the "declared topic
"

Quote: Nyrobsky

snot and did not dare to influence the situation by force, limiting themselves to economic sanctions.

What I'm talking about. The whole world will announce economic sanctions in response to Russian aggression.

Quote: Nyrobsky

- then it would be appropriate to remind you that, according to the official version of the United States, Russian troops have already been there since 2014

Yours is not true. Ben Hodges: “According to our intelligence, there are no Russian troops in the Donbas.” I hope you don’t need to introduce it.
The presence of Russian troops in Donbas is the official version of Ukraine, not the United States.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: NDR-791

In my opinion, this is already enough

These institutions have multiplied among them like cockroaches.
For every whim of the Nazis, the institute
Well, it's funny to talk about this one.
And the surname is truly Sumerian

[Shkworen]

direct living embodiment of Holodomor :)

[Lipchanin]

Well, where did they see their future?

[NDR-791]

Aaaa ... These are orphans, they are swelling with hunger !!! And they will substantiate the future, put a seal, multiply in THREE !!! copies. What do you think an integral institute can work idle ???

[Lipchanin]

Quote: NDR-791

This is our orphans, they are swelling with hunger !!!

They have orphans outside the institute.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lipchanin

They have orphans outside the institute.

Again the children of Lieutenant Schmidt got out.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: tihonmarine

Again the children of Lieutenant Schmidt climbed out

They didn't crawl far

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lipchanin

Well, where did they see their future?

In a telescope.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: tihonmarine

In a telescope.

In a radio telescope

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lipchanin

In a radio telescope

I thought and understood that I was wrong, and they see the future not in a television / radio telescope, but in "ward No. 6". They have the Future Club there.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: tihonmarine

and in "ward number 6".

This is where the radio telescope stands.
Looking for their future in the X-ray range

[evgen1221]

Well, in this mental hospital all the same - the West will help us, will do it for us and give it to us. Oh well.))))

[tihonmarine]

Quote: evgen1221

the West will help us, will do for us and give us back. Oh well.

But he will take their land.

[Ka-52]

expert on national security and defense of Ukrainian institute of the future.

that is, an expert on fantasy in the dark ages

NATO's reaction will follow only in weeks, if not months, and even then only after numerous agreements.

that is, the expert estimates the prospects for helping his NATO colleagues even lower than what happened with regard to Kuwait. For reference - Kuwait is not a NATO member, but assistance from the coalition came to him quite quickly

[Bolt cutter]

Kuwait is not a member of NATO, but assistance from the coalition came to him quite quickly

If there was no oil there, NATO would have expressed its concern, and then in a week.

[HAM]

"Institute of the Future" and they exist, there is also "Institute of the Past", and when, finally, will they live in the present! ?? ..... although, but they need it ....

[tihonmarine]

Quote: HAM

The "Institute of the Future" and they exist, there is also the "Institute of the Past", but when, finally, will they live in the present !?

When the last Bandera member disappears from the face of the earth.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: tihonmarine

When the last Banderite will disappear from the face of the earth

Himself? Never

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lipchanin

Himself? Never

Need help.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: tihonmarine

Need help

By all means.
Otherwise they are like small children, without a nanny anywhere

[Crowe]

Three former Soviet republics, and since the early 90s of the last century, independent states, have territorial claims to Russia.
These are Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine.

Not small, road

they will find it themselves.

[Dimide]

The greatest chances of conquering territory from Japan. Considering the remoteness of the theater of operations, extended logistics, small mobile resources and the state of KTOF, the chances are decent

[Pereira]

First, let Okinawa be recaptured.

[Andrea]

Japan, according to the constitution, cannot win anything. Dream further.

[Vadim_888]

... Japan, according to the constitution, cannot fight. Dream further.

Who in this world has the constitution protected from attack?
The law is that the tongue, where it turned, there it came out

[Dimide]

You will poke your wife.
The constitution is constitutional, but the issue of "northern territories" comes up with enviable constancy

[Squelcher]

Have you been to Japan? Do you know the youth and culture of modern Japan?

[Dimide]

I have not been to Japan.
A counter question, do the inhabitants of the Far East need these islands badly?

[Squelcher]

Strong not only for the residents but also for Russia in geopolitical and economic terms.
I have already clarified this many times. Islands are pieces of land but there is such a concept in the law of the sea.
The exclusive economic zone is a part of the sea 200 nautical miles (370,4 kilometers) wide, measured from the low tide line or from the baseline.
And in Japan he regularly visited both for work and on vacation.
I am not afraid of aggression in Japan, for two reasons their youth and society is even more refined than ours, there is more diligence and discipline, but it does not shine with fighting spirit and militarism. The second is the vulnerability of infrastructure and population density, definitely not for warfare.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Dimid

The greatest chances of winning territory from Japan.

Seriously?!!!
remoteness is how? !!
not the ability to strike with strategic aviation and missiles on Japanese territory?

[Dimide]

The Self-Defense Forces of Japan are one of the strongest armies in the region. I am generally silent about the fleet. Plus, the Americans will not stand aside. Japan is the third economy in the world. Mobile resource is almost comparable to the all-Russian one.
I won't say about missiles, and strategists are not a panacea (showed the conflict in Georgia)
So you have to really look at things

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Dimid

The Self-Defense Forces of Japan are one of the strongest armies in the region. I generally keep quiet about the fleet. Plus, the Americans will not stand aside. Japan is the third largest economy in the world. Mobile resource is almost comparable to the All-Russian

understandably, the level of analytics is still the same, if the Americans come into conflict, it all develops into something completely different

Quote: Dimid

I won't say about missiles, and strategists are not a panacea (showed the conflict in Georgia)
So you have to really look at things

what showed? !!!!!
are you serious now? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Quadro]

Again, the next nonsense that Japan will grab something from us there. For those who are particularly dull, the fleet will not change their geography, all their objects are packed like a sprat in a bank, they depend on the most basic resources from the outside, they have been raging for many years with a crisis that is much more serious than ours. How long can you replicate nonsense in the style of 1905 repetition? And yes, nuclear weapons may well be used, and then the Japanese economy is completely over, there is no need to even send MBRs there, send a pack of calibers. Japan is a dying country, which is not capable of giving a serious fight to any rivals as in the 30-40s. And enough nonsense about "the Americans will stand up", seriously think that they are such fools for the sake of the islands will arrange a nuclear war? Because there will be no other war.

[Dimide]

Read the 1951 treaty
View the birth / death statistics in Japan and Russia
Compare GNP of Japan and Russia
Then you can discuss

[gsev]

Quote: Dimid

Given the remoteness of the theater, extended logistics, small mobile resources and the state of KTOF, the chances are decent

Given the high population density in Japan on the limited territory of the East Coast and the presence of nuclear weapons in Russia, the chances are minimal.

[Dimide]

Yes, no one will use nuclear weapons over the islands. Local conflict is no more, but the political consequences in a negative scenario for both sides are not predictable

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Dimid

Local conflict no more, but the political consequences in a negative scenario for both sides are not predictable

local conflicts are very different, the bombing of Tokyo and the bombing of the Kuril Islands will lead to completely different consequences

[Dimide]

No one will bomb Tokyo, Vladivostok, Khabarovsk, Petropavlovsk are nearby, now not the 40s of the 20th century. Strikes will be directly on the theater of operations, places of concentration of troops, bases of fleets and logistics

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Dimid

No one will bomb Tokyo, Vladivostok, Khabarovsk, Petropavlovsk are nearby, these are not the 40s of the 20th century.

What are you ?!
remind how Belgrade was bombed

[Dimide]

There is a completely different task, to replace Milosevic.
If there is a conflict, it will be according to the scenario of Nagorno-Karabakh

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

listen to some kind of kindergarten
Japan is attacking the Russian Federation in order to take away the honor of the territory. Do you really think that the war will be only with the use of small arms ?!
name at least one reason why there will be no bombing (not special ammunition) tokyo
I am already silent about the fact that the main problem of ANY island state in the event of a military conflict is the blockade

[Dimide]

Read the post above.
In the 21st century, all armies are trying to minimize losses among the civilian population and the military themselves
There is even the concept of "excessive use of force".
Why do you think precision weapons are being developed?
Carpet bombing is a thing of the past, now the problem can be solved with pinpoint injections without burning everything around

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Dimid

In the 21st century, all armies are trying to minimize losses among the civilian population and the military themselves

Why are you smoking such a big guy ?!

[Dimide]

Everything is clear with you

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Dimid

Carpet bombing is a thing of the past, now the problem can be solved with pinpoint injections without burning everything around

they will be surprised in Libya and Iraq after reading this nonsense

[gsev]

Quote: Dimid

no one will use nuclear weapons because of the islands.

If the United States is convinced of this, then tomorrow Japan will be forced to attack Russia with the aim of capturing the Kuril Islands and the access of the US fleet to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk to neutralize Russia's submarine forces. But if Japan is forced to deprive a third of the population with massive nuclear strikes and forced to end such a "local conflict," then another aggressor will think whether to attack Russia.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Japan, and without a nuclear strike, the northern animal can come
high population density, small area of ​​absence of a protected food base, by the way, it was the presence of the latter in the USSR that did not allow mattresses to arrange a nuclear war in the 50s of the 60s

[Dimide]

Do not fantasize.
For the use of nuclear weapons will fly from everywhere

[gsev]

Quote: Dimid

For the use of nuclear weapons will fly from everywhere

For Russia, the enemy is Japan and NATO, for the United States, first of all, China. After the US-Russian exchange of nuclear strikes, the US will find it difficult to compete with the PRC. It will already be a Mexican-Negro country. And after the Japanese-Russian war, a couple of US competitors will lose millions of their population, so there is no reason for the US to attack Russia to capture the Kuril Islands by Japan. If only after the end of the war they are occupied with Kamchatka and Chukotka. They will not be allowed further by the Yakut special forces militias from the PRC .. By the end of the Japanese-Russian war, there will be no aviation and navy in Russia, the Far East will be destroyed, a quarter of the population will disappear from Japan, and the most valuable one.

[Humpty]

Russia has the greatest chances to conquer its territories. Only without a particularly compelling reason there is no desire (IMHO).

[tagil]

Not to win back, but to take back what is lawful, illegally taken away. We don't need someone else, well, perhaps some kind of island with a naval base in the Pacific Ocean, so that our ships could get to the American "democracy" with rest.

[Humpty]

Quote: Tagil

take back their own, legal, illegally rejected.

I like the Pamirs about this. There is more metal useful in the energy sector than some of the recognized leaders in reserves. And before the Russians, no one had any idea where what was located there. Even the Swedes and the Germans were contracted to look, to correct the map.

[Mikhail3]

Futurists are held in high esteem again. At one time they were completely forgotten, when "the future has come", and not a single highbrow forecast came true. Now these guys have been returned to the arena, only no one allows them to talk about what comes into their heads. They are now just a tool of politics. Small tool, but fine too.
What are we talking about? There is a probing of options - will it be possible to provoke Russia? Let not on aggression, so at least on careless statements of politicians. Maybe someone will blurt out something, and the denigration of the geopolitical enemy will advance a little.
I often think that it was better before) When politics was carried out mostly in secret, all this stupid filth and abomination at least was not on public display. Disgusting tricks, disgusting people, mountains of shit for a negligible result ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mikhail3

Futurologists are held in high esteem again. At one time they were completely forgotten, when "the future has come", and not a single highbrow forecast came true.

The institute of the future exists in order to issue unrealizable, meaningless forecasts, but for the needs of modern Ukrainian society. And everyone else does not read, and do not even know that such an institution exists. And the main goal of this institution is to whip up Russophobia in our country in order to distract the hungry people from reality.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: tihonmarine

The institute of the future exists in order to issue unrealizable, meaningless predictions

For example, they issued a forecast that in N decades this and that will happen.
Well, who will remember this forecast later?

[askort154]

Even joining NATO will not give any guarantee of security against an attack by Russia, the expert emphasizes.

Apparently he remembers the English film "BBC", shot in 2016. There Russia "attacked Latvia", but the British military council voted against the defense of Latvia, within the framework of NATO (Article 53, or 55). The votes were distributed 6 - for, 9 - against. The Anglo-Saxons do not want to die for the "small-scale NATO".

[Lipchanin]

Quote: askort154

Even joining NATO will not give any guarantee of security against an attack by Russia, the expert emphasizes.

They are worn with this nata as with a written sack.
Right now Nata will drop everything and run Crimea to win back
Shchazzzz ...

[Andrea]

Why is this their territory? Honor international law, where it is written for the stupid and greedy about the right of nations to self-determination.
Everything that broke away is the result of "competent" policy endured. And Russia has to do with this only by the fact that the mouths of the vultures were sewn up.

[Mikhail3]

Do you consider international law to be a kind of law? This ended with the end of the USSR. Now international law is a way to formalize seizures, pressure and other actions of those countries that can carry out all this. That is, mainly US actions. What the United States wants is confirmed by international law, although five minutes ago this very right had not heard anything like that.
At the moment, Russia is trying to insist that we can do what we want, and then declare that everything is by this very right, since we have enough military power and the economy is capable of confrontation.
International law has nothing to do with any laws.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

"Ukrainian Institute of the Future" sounds as absurd as some Cigarettes and Vodka Society of Runners.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

"Ukrainian Institute of the Future"

Horns and Hooves, side view only

[Anatole Klim]

the chances of Ukraine and Georgia to return their territories are negligible, Russia is not going to give up the seized lands.

What other territorial claims against Russia? Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Transnistria are perhaps included in Russia, Crimea, illegally transferred by Khrushchev to Ukraine, returned legally to Russia. Of the former Soviet republics, only the Baltic republics openly make territorial claims to Russia: Lithuania for part of the Kaliningrad region, Latvia for the Pytalovsky district of the Pskov region, Estonia for the Pechora region and Ivangorod.
Well, what an expert this is, just stupid

[tatra]

Only there is no need for anti-Soviet myths, Khrushchev did not transfer the Crimea to any State of Ukraine, and under the USSR it did not matter to which republic the Crimea belonged, and after the seizure of the republics of the USSR it would not matter if the Russian and Ukrainian enemies of the communists did not plant each other anger and hatred against each other, did not pit the Russian and Ukrainian peoples against each other, and until the Maidan-2014, the Russian enemies of the communists were not interested in Crimea and the Crimeans.

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: tatra

Only there is no need for anti-Soviet myths, Khrushchev did not transfer the Crimea to any State of Ukraine,

In March 2014, in his Crimean speech, V. Putin argued that the initiator of the transfer of the Crimean region to the Ukrainian SSR was “Khrushchev personally”. According to the Russian president, only the motives that drove Khrushchev remain a mystery: "the desire to enlist the support of the Ukrainian nomenklatura or to make amends for organizing mass repressions in Ukraine in the 1930s," and the Soviet nomenklatura wanted to present a gift to the Ukrainian SSR in honor of the 300 anniversary of the Pereyaslavl Rada.

enemies of the communists ... Russian and Ukrainian enemies of the communists ... Russian enemies of the communists.

When will I hear from you who was the enemy of the Russian and Ukrainian communists, in each of your comments “enemies of the communists”, who are they, are they really all the same communists? even the renegades would have written.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Anatol Klim

According to the President of Russia, only the motives that drove Khrushchev remain a mystery:

For a long time already, in the 70s, I heard such a version that Crimea was a gift to my wife for DR

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Anatol Klim

who was the enemy of Russian and Ukrainian communists

Yes, the communists themselves.
The general secretary and the president of the tagged themselves have chosen
The people had nothing to do with this

[tatra]

That's right, Khrushchev did not transfer Crimea to any anti-Soviet State in Ukraine, it was a redistribution of territories within one State. And the benefactor of the Russian enemies of the communists, who do not have themselves, you only have communists, Putin, said a lot of things, including the fact that Lenin, who died in 1924, destroyed the USSR.

[Keer]

Ah, here, the Communists Almost Without Thought,
They see clearly the Enemies of the Communists,
Such Communists Whose Thoughts Are Pure,
(Which, however, are the Enemies of the Communists),
Those that are the Enemies of the Enemies of the Communists,
Such Communists Whose Thoughts Are Unclean,
(Who are themselves the Enemies of the Communists),
They are the Very Evil Enemies of the Communists.

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: Keer

Ah, here, the Communists Almost Without Thought,
They clearly see the Enemies of the Communists ....

Good humor Handsomely

[Mykhalych]

Apply to the Kremlin to the President of the Russian Federation V.V.As "... since the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine has not carried out and has not properly registered with the UN the demarcation of its borders as a state ... They remain along the borders of the administrative district of the USSR in accordance with the usual treaty within the CIS, which has no legal force in the UN." And hypothetically, this is for conspiracy theorists, such as Yaytsenyuk, Obama, Saakashvili and others like them.

[Tatyana Pershina]

Well, do you write some surnames with a small letter? Give them the opportunity, at least on paper, to be a "proper name", and not just a "noun"

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Tatiana Pershina

not just a "noun"

What they fought for ...

[Alex Justice]

Something about the adventurer Saakashvili is not heard. Is he really dead?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Alex Justice

Something about the adventurer Saakashvili is not heard. Is he really dead?

- How is your health?
- Do not wait!

[aszzz888]

Telegraph speculated about the possibility of returning territories in the Ukrainian edition Irakli Janashia

Well, purebred silyuk!

[cniza]

However, if we speculate hypothetically within the framework of the question "who has more chances", then most likely Moldova has more chances to return the territory of Transnistria. In favor of this, according to Janashia, the absence of a common border between Moldova and Russia, as well as the duration of the conflict, speaks.

This is not yet, but what will happen tomorrow ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: cniza

This is not yet, but what will happen tomorrow ...

It depends on which feeble-minded person with exorbitant ambitions comes to power

[cniza]

But it seems to me that the process is already irreversible and we will have a common border with Transnistria ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: cniza

Transnistria ...

And not only...

[cniza]

Yes, old new neighbors may appear there ...

[tihonmarine]

"Time heals" and heals scars caused even by war.

Time does not heal such wounds. Just as the wounds of Armenia and Azerbaijan are difficult to heal, if at all possible, and also the wounds inflicted by Ukraine on its people in Donbass.

[Roma 1977]

Meanwhile, the expert is right. Moldova has the greatest chances of joining Transnistria, in the distant historical perspective. But Ukraine and Georgia are in flight. That's all right.

[mark2]

Well, purebred silyuk!

Yes, we are not better. On TV, Jewish potsiks and Armenian horsemen talk about the fate of Russia and the Russians. And the Russians themselves are in infantilism, dreaming of justice, equality and socialism. See today's article by Staver and comments on it. Especially the comments. Children gathered or old people, which is basically the same thing. Children do not yet understand, and old people do not want to understand that life contrasts with their rosy dreams and beliefs.

[yehat2]

very interesting, on the basis of what the territories are considered "theirs"?
The local population wherever there are disputes are categorically against such belonging
so what is the basis? And this is fundamentally different from the situation in NK and in Yugoslavia, where both sides prefer massive ethnic cleansing.
The claims look especially strange in Ossetia.

[Borz]

The institute for the future in a country that has no future is a dissonance, however.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

This is GruzThree former Soviet republics, and since the beginning of the 90s of the last century, independent states, have territorial claims to Russia. These are Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine.

For the sake of truth, only two Sumeria and Estonia (not officially, at the level of the national elite there is still Kazakhstan), Georgia and Moldova have a completely different rationale in this matter

[BAI]

1

that it is rather naive to expect the return of the territories with the active opposition of Russia itself.

Remains of the mind remained.
2

Moldova has more chances to return the territory of Transnistria.

And when did Transnistria enter Russia?

[Senior seaman]

Three former Soviet republics, and since the early 90s of the last century, independent states, have territorial claims to Russia. These are Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine.

Why have you forgotten Estonia?

[for]

The topics are over, again Ukraine.

[Lord of the Sith]

"Who has more chances to win back their territories from Russia" - reflects the press of Ukraine

Nobody. It's a little gutsy to fight a superpower, which is Russia.

[Alien From]

These countries need to think about themselves first .......

[cool.anatoliy576]

Can we put the question differently, who has more chances to become a subject of the Russian Federation, so it will be more correct

[Glory to Berkut]

Taaaaak .... Consider the territorial claims of Ukraine on the map

[Clueless]

Oh, but it turns out that "children" can be interfered with in politics? The photo is a fresh example. Or is it just a ban on those who are against the opinion of the United Russia party? :)))

[Voltsky]

Who has more chances to win back its territories from Russia

alcoholic delirium

[Jaromir]

Who has more chances to win back its territories from Russia

No one has such a chance. Not at all.

[Jaromir]

reasoned Irakli Janashia - an expert on national security and defense of the Ukrainian Institute for the Future.

Bad expert. Why bad? Because:
a) Transnistria, unfortunately, is not part of the Russian Federation;
b) the same applies to Abkhazia, South Ossetia and LDNR;
c) Crimea became part of the Russian Federation, on the basis of a popular referendum.

[babylon]

It is we who should apply to them, but not they to us

[Real Pilot]

Quote: Far In

Do not see at the root

Who has more chances to win back its territories from Russia

USSR. Or at least the RSFSR.

That's it!
And most of all - in Ukraine and Belarus!
You just need to raise your legs up, hold referendums ...
And win back everything to Kamchatka, with the capital in Moscow

[RVAPatriot]

And the expert has not heard about the claims of the Balts ??? strange ... Such is the professor in this matter .... Less article

[Prisoner]

Russia has a better chance of picking you all up. But why does she need you like that?

[alexander 2]

Russia has the highest probability of returning its territories.

[HOMUT1430]

oh how! the most beggars estimate the chances? it is better to let them think what will happen to them next.

[Gennady M]

Forty souls howl in shifts
White-hot
That's how much they bother
Triangular affairs!
Everyone is almost crazy crazy -
Even who was insane
And then the head doctor Margulis
TV banned.

[Pardus22]

If Moldova dares to seize Transnistria, it has every chance of disappearing from the world map

[Ros 56]

Well, what nonsense, even the most stupid on the planet, it is clear that the chance to win back a piece of its land from Russia is equal to the suicide of the encroaching country.