San Marino, Monaco and Andorra - this is not Europe for you

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A fairy tale is a lie, but is there a hint in it?


Completing the past pandemic year, the European Union, without hesitation, extended the "Crimean" sanctions against Russia. And this was quite expected. And before that, in November 2020, Russia extended retaliatory sanctions against agricultural products from the EU.

However, Russian counters, especially in the capitals, are never empty. The threat of a real deficit exists only for cheap goods - domestic and from the countries of the Eurasian Economic Union. And what is interesting: the most diverse “corridors” still remain on the map of embargoes, sanctions and counter-sanctions.




It is unlikely that, remembering the USSR with nostalgia, someone will regret this.

Many countries and entire regions, including those in the same EAEU, have signed up to exporters of everything that is possible and impossible. Moreover, such exports are by no means symbolic in scale. Not only Russia and the EU are actively involved in the geopolitical games around the exchange of sanctions.

At the turn of 2020–2021 we counted only in the network and only in Moscow - at least one and a half dozen clearly large online stores offering an extensive range of food. There are especially many meat products there, for which, as you know, a special kind of warehouses are needed.

And where do you think it all comes from? From the tiny republic of San Marino with an area of ​​only 61 sq. km with a population of 33 thousand people. And, as you can see, it is not for nothing that this miniature free republic is sometimes called a communist paradise.

In the same place, each other in power was replaced more than once by captains-regents who were members of the Italian Communist Party, mind you. Now, however, one Christian Democrat is in power, and the other is a member of the party with the mysterious name Domani Motus Liberi.

"Dwarf" export


However, not only San Marino, but also other European "dwarfs" are old, well-known and equally widely used zones - offshore and re-export at the same time. With this in mind, it makes no sense to even ask about the places of production of agricultural products in mini-countries.

San Marino, Monaco and Andorra - this is not Europe for you

Let's clarify: San Marino, Monaco, Andorra do not participate in the sanctions duel between the Russian Federation and the EU. Moreover, since the beginning of the 1920s, they have been in a customs union, respectively, with Italy, France and Spain.

Although, it would seem, Rome, Paris and Madrid in a matter of hours, if not minutes, could attract the same dwarf countries to the anti-Russian sanctions. But the "highlight" is that the share of Russia in the supply of agricultural products from the EU region, since the mid-90s, has invariably been - attention, not less than 25%.

That is, relations between the EU and Russia are long-established trade flows with departments, traders, carriers, wholesale and retail networks. It is clear that giving up these relationships is more expensive for both parties.

Belarusian shrimp quota


Therefore, not only these miniature countries, but also, for example, the EAEU countries are exponentially outside the framework of the "exchange" of sanctions between Russia and the European Union. Accordingly, unsanctioned products are supplied both through the dwarf countries of Europe and through the countries of the Eurasian Union.

The Russian side still, after six years of a strange "trade war", does not insist on the participation of all EAEU countries in Russian counter-sanctions. Hence the simple conclusion - such oversupply is beneficial for Moscow: both politically and for “closing” real gaps in the country's food supply.

This is not even particularly veiled in a situation where the advertised successes in import substitution for food and agricultural raw materials do not correlate well with realities (Import substitution in a crisis: cancel and zero?).

And, of course, such a business is extremely beneficial to countries, as they are called, transit-re-exporters. And the ridicule that Belarus is a country of five seas, almost like Moscow, is completely inappropriate.


Our union republic has its own fleet, which is based not only in Russian ports, and its own quotas for catching fish and seafood. And it is not so important that Belarusian ships actually sail the seas and oceans under the flags of Liberia, Cyprus or Barbados.

Find out more about San Marino


The first transparent hint that deliveries from the EU to the Russian Federation of cheeses and meat products will continue through San Marino sounded precisely in the government newspaper Rossiyskaya Gazeta back on March 18, 2016.

Some passages from there are quite typical:

“The supply of cheeses and premium meat products from Europe will resume to Russia. They will come from the small state of San Marino, which did not fall under the Russian food embargo.

The businessmen of the two states plan to sign the corresponding agreement today, March 18.

The forthcoming agreement was reported to Rossiyskaya Gazeta by the National Association of Wholesale Distribution Centers (NARC) of the Russian Federation.

Further - even more specifically:

“According to Vladimir Lishchuk, executive director of NARC, it is assumed that a lot of European-made products that have come under the embargo can be supplied from the republic. For example, meat products, hard cheeses, including parmesan. "

But her counterparts in San Marino were alarmed by such specific revelations of the government publication in just a matter of days. And they hastened to refute all this.

According to RBC on March 21 of the same 2016:
“The Secretary of State for Foreign and Political Affairs of San Marino, Antonella Mularoni, denied information from RG that the republic would resume deliveries of cheese and meat products to Russia.

This is stated in her statement published on the website of the state TV channel San Marino RTV.

The official noted that "no agreement has been signed on this issue."

However, Ms. Mularoni gracefully hinted that the aforementioned deliveries are quite possible:

"If the spread is distorted news will serve as a source of new knowledge about San Marino for Russians, will increase interest in our country, then I can only rejoice. "

Mutual interest


It seems that this interest was very specific and mutual: according to the Federal Customs Service of the Federal Customs Service of Russia and the Rosselkhoznadzor, the import of meat and meat offal from San Marino in 2015 amounted to only 2,8 tons. But the real volume of supplies from there, including re-export through Belarus, was at least three times more than the “official” one both in 2015 and later.

So, according to the latest data from the Federal Customs Service, in the third quarter of 2020, the total imports of agricultural raw materials and finished food from San Marino amounted to at least 760 thousand dollars. Despite the fact that in 2015 this figure was only 34 thousand dollars.

But the import of the same goods from Italy (although they have been listed in the register of the Russian embargo since August 2014) exceeded $ 2020 million in the third quarter of 23. And this, for the most part, is just re-export through other EAEU countries and, again, through San Marino.

The situation is similar with the re-export of agricultural products from France (also sanctioned to the Russian Federation) - through Monaco, and re-export through other EAEU countries. In the 3rd quarter of 2020, these shipments from France exceeded $ 25 million.

The situation is practically the same with re-export to Russia, and in equally large volumes with products from Spain that have come under the embargo, arriving at Russian counters through Andorra and, again, through other countries of the EAEU.

In this regard, the information of the Andorra Consulting-2016 portal is typical:

“Andorra occupies a unique position in Europe, it is not a member of the European Union.

Andorra is not a country subject to trade sanctions from other countries, and the Principality itself has also not taken decisions on the application of sanctions. "


In the queue, who is told - in the queue


That is, it does not say directly about the possibility of Andorran re-export - in contrast to the laconic specifics on the Political Atlas of the Present (RF) portal:

“The economic prosperity of Andorra is associated with tourism and trade, as well as with offshore business.

Most of the goods exported by Andorra are of foreign origin (re-export) ”.

However, the EU-RF sanctions duel also does not involve the Faroe Islands and Greenland, autonomous from Denmark, overseas departments / territories of France, the autonomy of the Netherlands in the Caribbean. Moreover, all these territories are listed in the FCS as official trade partners of Russia.

Moreover: in the same FCS-register, Svalbard, the North Atlantic island of Jan Mayen, and the South Atlantic Bouvet island in the South Atlantic appear separately, while Norwegian food and agricultural raw materials in Russia are also under sanctions. And in the same FCS-register - even the tiny British island of Pitcairn, lost in the southeast of the Pacific Ocean.

No less unique is the order of the Rosselkhoznadzor dated July 11, 2014, which tightened veterinary control over the import of livestock products.

But the effect of this document, as noted in it, does not apply not only to Andorra, Monaco and San Marino. But also Iceland, Norway, Switzerland, Liechtenstein and even the Vatican.
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  1. +2
    29 January 2021 18: 12
    I bought Torres today on the occasion of my dismissal. But I could not find a ham under it. Sadness.
    1. +2
      29 January 2021 19: 05
      Bhe ... I just found a minute in a radius of 15 minutes. walk from my house ... You can - with delivery ... And yes. country of origin - San Marino ...
      https://av.ru/catalog/myaso-ryba-gastronomiya/myasnaya-gastronomiya/hamon-syrovyalenye-delikatesy/
      1. +3
        29 January 2021 19: 34
        Quote: Cowbra
        Bhe ... I just found a minute in a radius of 15 minutes. walk from my house ... You can - with delivery ... And yes. country of origin - San Marino ...
        https://av.ru/catalog/myaso-ryba-gastronomiya/myasnaya-gastronomiya/hamon-syrovyalenye-delikatesy/


        Nothing, there is a bar of dry-cured sausage in the refrigerator. Our. Skrepnaya.
        1. +1
          30 January 2021 11: 40
          I constantly take cheese "Dor Blue" "from there", as if there were no sanctions. And this is not a fake, the taste is the same as in Germany. So from Germany "somewhere", and from "somewhere" to Russia.
          1. 0
            30 January 2021 14: 47
            Quote: kalibr
            I constantly take cheese "Dor Blue" "from there", as if there were no sanctions. And this is not a fake, the taste is the same as in Germany. So from Germany "somewhere", and from "somewhere" to Russia.


            The Argentines have got the knack for making cheeses. Parmesan and Reggianito (the same Parmesan) ... Just no sandwiches and slicing. We break it into pieces and pieces ...
    2. +3
      30 January 2021 03: 46
      ... But I couldn't find a ham for it. Sadness.
      And I myself make .............. from venison and elk meat, a stunning thing turns out!
      1. +1
        30 January 2021 07: 02
        I do the same "at the request of the workers" once a year by March, dry-cured ... Even inexpensive meat is very expensive! But delicious. Sweep away in Sheregesh with moonshine and beer in a matter of minutes.
  2. +14
    29 January 2021 18: 15
    When a person who has never seen the backstage of online stores writes laudatory articles, it turns out such an opus. And as usual, the USSR sucks, and under Rumpleshtitskin everyone is happy.
    Everything is according to the manual.
    1. 0
      29 January 2021 20: 10
      Quote: 7,62x54
      When a person has never seen the backstage of online stores

      When a person has dropped to the level of an "online store", he needs to be excluded from the level of people.
  3. -10
    29 January 2021 18: 22
    Carried through San Marino and fine.
    Is there at least one Russian citizen who will not approve of this?
    Chinariks and others like them do not count, in words they are "nizzzzyayayaya!", And then they order parmesan with delivery.
  4. +3
    29 January 2021 18: 30
    Those who have been engaged in export-import in life know that there is always a Certificate of Origin in the documents for the goods.
    A jamon truck from the Vatican, but no customs officer would do that ...
    1. +1
      30 January 2021 12: 09
      Quote: Petr Vladimirovich
      Those who have been engaged in export-import in life know that there is always a Certificate of Origin in the documents for the goods.
      A jamon truck from the Vatican, but no customs officer would do that ...

      If the customs officer does not go, then a truck with meat and cheese is transferred across the border in half a day or a day by hauls, the price is just a little more expensive
      1. +1
        30 January 2021 15: 04
        It's actually even easier. A truck from Spain, even a Belarusian carrier, arrives in Lithuania or Latvia. Leaves with documents for Argentine goods and the price is three times lower than the real one. At our customs, the driver goes to the office with a file of documents (forms, stamps - better than real ones) and a leg under his arm, these are you guys for lunch. Wide road!
  5. +5
    29 January 2021 18: 37
    The point is that "mutual sanctions" are a political game and profit for mutual business. With performances and compassionate conferences to identify the sanction. It was the same with regard to the racist South Africa and Southern Rhodesia, with which the USSR traded.
    1. bad
      +19
      29 January 2021 19: 41
      Quote: Artashes
      The point is that "mutual sanctions" are a political game and profit for mutual business. With performances and compassionate conferences to identify sanctions

      And declaring retaliatory sanctions is for naive patriots.
      1. +2
        30 January 2021 11: 43
        Quote: malo
        And declaring retaliatory sanctions is for naive patriots.

        Precisely to shake testicles menacingly! And the same States, as they bought our nickel, are still buying. And Europe just lives on our REM (50%). "Pulitics - pulitics, as Cardinal Mazarin said, and money - money!"
  6. +9
    29 January 2021 18: 51
    There are technologies, unique technologies that only a few have. The best minds have been working on them for years, and these technologies are trying to buy, officially or not, with the help of connections or intelligence ... It's all clear. For it is impossible to learn how to design and manufacture industrial robots, automobiles or CNC machines with a fast and advanced level.
    But the meat ..! bacon, cucumbers, radishes ... import this ... It's beyond my comprehension ...
    .. the import of meat and meat offal from San Marino in 2015 amounted to only 2,8 tons.
    1. +3
      29 January 2021 19: 12
      And meat, and bacon, and radishes and everything on the shelves in bulk. There are domestic manufacturers in each category.
      They import not only to avoid deficiency. They also do this so that the buyer has the widest possible choice.
      We make good alcoholic beverages. But this does not detract from the fact that foreign products differ in many ways.
      It's the same with cheeses. With apples the same way (someone sometimes wants to eat imported giants from chemistry) and so on. We also send a lot of things for export.
      1. +4
        29 January 2021 19: 56
        Quote: Pensive Lawyer
        We make good alcoholic beverages.


        Where is it?
        1. +1
          30 January 2021 11: 45
          At the Taman Winery, opposite the Suvorov Fortress. The taste of the wine is awesome! Every now and then they bring in guilt from France and ... there, for blending!
          1. +1
            30 January 2021 14: 41
            Quote: kalibr
            At the Taman Winery, opposite the Suvorov Fortress. The taste of the wine is awesome! Every now and then they bring in guilt from France and ... there, for blending!


            Fu. Taman in shops is exceptionally ... tasteless. IMHO only South Africa and Portugal. The French and the Spaniards drive bullshit for big money. Or a private winery. Sometimes they rush me. Glass bottle, label, cork stopper. Only for their own. It’s a pity, I don’t belong to these "mine" ones.
            1. +1
              30 January 2021 15: 10
              Quote: sergo1914
              Taman in stores exclusively.

              So I'm not talking about shops. And about the tasting room of the plant on the outskirts of Taman!
  7. +13
    29 January 2021 19: 05
    It is unlikely that, remembering the USSR with nostalgia, someone will regret this.
    That is remembered with pain and nostalgia
    1. +2
      30 January 2021 00: 20
      And the truth is in the middle!
  8. +11
    29 January 2021 19: 30
    Although, it would seem, Rome, Paris and Madrid in a matter of hours, if not minutes, could attract the same dwarf countries to the anti-Russian sanctions.

    Judging by the text, they violate Russian sanctions, not anti-Russian ones.
    1. +2
      29 January 2021 23: 25
      Judging by the text, they violate Russian sanctions, not anti-Russian ones.
      Reply © ©
      With a smile: bingo !!! ™
  9. +10
    29 January 2021 20: 05
    Although, it would seem, Rome, Paris and Madrid in a matter of hours, if not minutes, could attract the same dwarf countries to the anti-Russian sanctions. But the "highlight" is that the share of Russia in the supply of agricultural products from the EU region, since the mid-90s, has invariably been - attention, not less than 25%.

    STOP, STOP !!! stop Either I do not understand, or the author is saying something wrong! belay
    Counter-sanctions and a ban on the import of agricultural products from the EU announced the GDP!

    And here the author is glad that through offshore, these products still go to Russia, contrary to the decision of the Russian government! belay And since it goes by a roundabout way, on the shelves, respectively, more expensive! Alexey Chichkin on what is the essence happy? request
    1. +18
      29 January 2021 21: 10
      Wait a minute, gentlemen. Let's be clear for ourselves.
      The government imposes sanctions, and the imported goods are still on the shelves, but since additional intermediaries appear in the chain, the final price in the store becomes higher.
      That is, the Europeans both delivered the goods and are delivering.
      Our chains have both sold and are selling.
      Only the buyer now pays a little more for the product.
      I have a question:
      Who is in the red as a result?
      Against whom were "counter-sanctions" introduced then? Who was punished then?
      1. +4
        29 January 2021 21: 39
        And if you remember that the national currency has fallen in price almost three times over the years, then all these ham and parmesans purchased for foreign currency have become truly gold.
        1. -2
          29 January 2021 23: 35
          Well, those who can afford it buy it. Tea is not an essential product.
          1. +1
            31 January 2021 11: 47
            Well, yes, and the rest of the macaroshka with stew at 30 rubles per can.
            1. 0
              31 January 2021 13: 41
              Why with stew for 30 rubles. There are also domestic products, uncooked smoked and dry-cured, much cheaper than Spanish and Italian, very good taste. But there are no analogues in gastronomy. The same wines, France, Italy, Russia, Chile, finally. all are good (I'm talking about high-quality products, I don't offer three axes), but everyone's taste is different and you won't be able to replace each other by and large.
              1. -1
                31 January 2021 16: 30
                Well, because most of our fellow citizens, according to statistics, are purchased in so-called deshman networks such as Traffic Lights, Pyaterochka, Magnet and the like. Most often they buy not expensive products of extremely low quality, with dubious content and not related to the list of premium, elite or healthy food. Whatever our many disrespectful rulers tell about import substitution, the average person knows very well that a huge share of both goods and ingredients for production, packaging, storage, logistics, etc., etc. often depends on foreign components by 100 percent. and therefore bought for foreign currency, which has risen in price by almost 30 percent in the last year alone. For example, good parmesan matures and is stored for about three years, will a Russian manufacturer make such a cheese? The question is rhetorical.
                1. 0
                  31 January 2021 19: 59
                  Breaking into the premium market is a very difficult task. It requires not only high quality, but also appropriate advertising that creates an image.
                  For example, if Hyundai can produce a Rolls-Royce-level car, not one decent billionaire will buy it for the next 10 years just because hundai is written on it.
                  1. 0
                    1 February 2021 20: 03
                    Well, then Hyundai has long had its own premium in the face of Genesis, I can't say how it differs from Rawls because I had no opportunity to evaluate either one or the other))), but in general, the point is that it is for a very narrow audience, and the rest eat makaroshiki, that is, Solaris!
      2. +2
        30 January 2021 05: 16
        Against buyers
        1. +1
          31 January 2021 16: 31
          Exactly. It is difficult to remember what is generally being done in this country for its inhabitants (buyers).
          1. 0
            31 January 2021 18: 14
            The further, the more fun it will be laughing soon our wallets will feel import substitution. rumor goes that the Chinese want to raise prices up to 30%. lol
  10. +1
    29 January 2021 22: 39
    Quote: sergo1914
    I bought Torres today on the occasion of my dismissal.

    well ... Torres is like that, even 10 years old.
    "Koktebel" 5 years old is nicer;)
    1. +1
      29 January 2021 23: 31
      Try Koktebel for 15 years, still in a round bottle. This is something.
    2. +1
      29 January 2021 23: 34
      I prefer the Armenian version from 5 stars.
      1. +1
        30 January 2021 00: 37
        Quote: Ua3qhp
        I prefer the Armenian version from 5 stars.

        I totally agree. With only some clarification, the label should also say what was made in Yerevan, otherwise the Armenian brandy from Saratov. like Narzan from Minsk not very drinks And real Armenian cognac is real Armenian cognac good drinks
        1. +1
          30 January 2021 04: 50
          Quote: Fitter65
          And real Armenian cognac is real Armenian cognac

          And the "real Armenian cognac" is Shustovsky.
        2. +1
          30 January 2021 09: 34
          Additional clarification, not just in Yerevan, but at YBC. drinks
          1. 0
            30 January 2021 09: 40
            Quote: Ua3qhp
            Additional clarification, not just in Yerevan, but at YBC. drinks

            And only then, it is tasty and healthy. laughing drinks
  11. +8
    29 January 2021 22: 51
    The content of this article can be put into one paragraph. The author Chichkin is "deeply satisfied" that, despite Russian counter-sanctions, European suppliers continue to be present on the Russian market, but through third laying countries. Accordingly, the Russian buyer began to pay also to the gasket countries. A very tricky plan.
    1. +3
      30 January 2021 12: 45
      Quote: Undecim
      Accordingly, the Russian buyer began to pay also to the gasket countries. A very tricky plan.

      There is someone to learn from. Here the "brothers" from Ukraine overpay for Russian gas, calling it "reverse", as well as for coal, considering it according to the formula "Rotterdam +", etc., and so on ...
  12. +2
    29 January 2021 23: 20
    +1
    Those who have been engaged in export-import in life know that there is always a Certificate of Origin in the documents for the goods.
    A jamon truck from the Vatican, but no customs officer would do that ...
    Reply © ©
    Petr Vladimirovich, your comment ended in three dots at the most interesting. So someone "gives the go-ahead to customs?"
  13. +6
    30 January 2021 00: 24
    Hypocrites and only
  14. +5
    30 January 2021 00: 32
    It is unlikely that, remembering the USSR with nostalgia, someone will regret this.
    Counters of the late USSR, but around the corner, cooperators have everything at least triple the price. That's how Gorbachev pushed the country to collapse. We lived at that time, we remember how it was .. As Leonid Filatov wrote -... thank God, we distinguish forget-me-not from (...) ... It was strange in the days of the USSR it was possible to write this word, but in the current democracy it is impossible - and so the question itself arises, where was the freedom of speech? Even if it is impossible to quote in full volume from a work written and shown on TV performed by the author during the Soviet era?
    1. +1
      30 January 2021 04: 57
      Quote: Fitter65
      It was strange in the days of the USSR it was possible to write this word, but in the current democracy it is impossible

      The intelligentsia is offended.
      1. +2
        30 January 2021 09: 47
        Quote: mat-vey
        Quote: Fitter65
        It was strange in the days of the USSR it was possible to write this word, but in the current democracy it is impossible

        The intelligentsia is offended.
        And what about these? Although they were always offended. then they are not appreciated, then they are not allowed to go to their homeland, because they are very much appreciated, they are allowed to go home again, they are offended that they are not appreciated .. Yes, we have such an intelligentsia. As they say, don't feed the wolf, but the donkey still has more ... I'm talking about the ears. laughing laughing good
        1. +1
          30 January 2021 09: 49
          Quote: Fitter65
          And what about these?

          And perhaps Lenin's description of the intelligentsia serving capital is remembered.
          1. 0
            30 January 2021 09: 55
            Quote: mat-vey
            And perhaps Lenin's description of the intelligentsia serving capital is remembered.

            And they say that now the work of Lenin is not studied. laughing
            1. +2
              30 January 2021 09: 56
              So he guessed the essence, but the truth is the most offensive ..
  15. KCA
    +2
    30 January 2021 06: 08
    Comrade author, you don’t go shopping on something like "Azbuka Vkusa" in Moscow, where not every dollar millionaire buys food, go to a regular retail, here two times you will find sanctioned products from Europe, names can be all sorts, but small letters will be written "Made in Russia" and the address of the production somewhere in the Moscow region or Krasnodar Territory, even Chinese firms are slowly creeping into Russia, pushing a ton of ham is one thing, but a thousand tons of livestock products is another, bribes and other crap will reduce the profit simply to a minus, and if an honest customs officer comes across, then in general turma
    1. +1
      30 January 2021 09: 56
      Quote: KCA
      and if an honest customs officer comes across,

      Here is the main word IF?
      1. KCA
        -1
        30 January 2021 10: 47
        Now a strong psychological selection is being carried out, and the salary and military pension are not conducive to adventurism and violation of the law, although in any flock there is a black sheep
        1. +1
          30 January 2021 10: 53
          Quote: KCA
          Now a strong psychological selection is being carried out, and the salary and military pension are not conducive to adventurism and violation of the law, although in any flock there is a black sheep

          And the most interesting thing is, the higher and thicker the sheep, the more often it is bad. And the most annoying thing is that almost the entire farmyard suffers because of one such cattle ...
    2. 0
      30 January 2021 12: 17
      Quote: KCA
      names can be different, but small letters will be written "Made in Russia" and the address of the production somewhere in the Moscow region or Krasnodar Territory

      And it happens that it is written "Made in Russia", beats from A to Z according to Mercury, but in fact everything except the packaging is Italian or French ...
      1. KCA
        +1
        30 January 2021 12: 49
        It happens, but, in fairness, it happens on the technique that it is written Made in USA, but made in Taiwan or in general in China, I will not go deeply, I have not dealt with food, but I will name the two largest American companies that do not have mass production in the USA, and whose on the nameplates above the Made in USA inscription there is a bar and a digital code of the plant in Taiwan, these are the ones that I personally checked - HP and Apple, this is in the box, the fact that 99.9 ...% of components are in USA technology from Southeast Asia and so it is known ... Sometimes, incidentally, the nameplates are glued like ours - right over the Chinese, you look - two stickers, one tore off, and there ... Europe or the United States does not even smell, all the junk produced under contracts is molded into an American name and made in
  16. +2
    30 January 2021 07: 52
    The threat of a real deficit exists only for cheap goods - domestic and from the countries of the Eurasian Economic Union.
    ... So, cheap domestic goods are being replaced by expensive imported ones? And if there are no imports, there may be a shortage of food on the shelves, as in the late USSR. Without abroad, how? Here's the joy. Foreign countries will help us. laughing
  17. 0
    30 January 2021 12: 03
    Quote: Fitter65
    Quote: Ua3qhp
    I prefer the Armenian version from 5 stars.

    I totally agree. With only some clarification, the label should also say what was made in Yerevan, otherwise the Armenian brandy from Saratov. like Narzan from Minsk not very drinks And real Armenian cognac is real Armenian cognac good drinks

    Unfortunately, in our time there are often problems with the "present".
    Even there (in Armenia) there are many "wineries" and offer the most, that neither is the Armenian brandy.
  18. 0
    30 January 2021 12: 04
    Quote: Nikza
    Try Koktebel for 15 years, still in a round bottle. This is something.

    Unfortunately, I did not come across, but I can guess and swallow drool)

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