"Time to get in line": Ukraine offers to buy American F-16 fighters

Ukraine needs to start re-equipping the combat aviation in view of the significant obsolescence and completion of the operational capabilities of the existing fleet of MiG-29 and Su-27 fighters. Writes about this Defense Express.

According to the publication, the number of MiG-29 and Su-27 fighters in service with the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will begin to decrease significantly by 2025 with the final decommissioning of the last Soviet-assembled aircraft by 2030. Therefore, Kiev already now needs to begin the process of purchasing new Western-made fighters.

As such a fighter, the publication offers the American F-16 manufactured by the Lockheed Martin Corporation. The choice for this aircraft fell due to the fact that in 2020 the US Department of Defense signed a 10-year contract with the corporation for the production of F-16 fighters for foreign buyers under the Foreign Military Sale program. The total production of the F-16 until 2031 may be 1,1-1,4 thousand units.

Ukraine may have time to "get in line" for these planes

- writes the edition.

It is noted that the cost of the F-16 combat-ready fighter can range from 43 to 55 million per unit, depending on the configuration, but it can be even higher, so Ukraine needs to adopt a national program to renew the fleet of fighter aircraft with "appropriate funding."

For our part, we add that Ukraine has adopted a program for the modernization of the country's air force for 2021-2035. During this period, aviation must completely get rid of the already obsolete Soviet-made aircraft and adopt a "modern" fighter. Several options are considered as the main candidate, but the Swedish Saab JAS-39E / F Gripen and the American F-16 Block 70/72 are called more preferable for the country's air force. In total, it is planned to purchase from 72 to 108 fighters.

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[zyablik.olga]

Several options are considered as the main candidate, but the Swedish Saab JAS-39E / F Gripen and the American F-16 Block 70/72 are called more preferable for the country's air force. In total, it is planned to purchase 72 to 108 fighters.

And for what pennies?

[Finches]

One is not enough, two take ... Well, you live on bread and water for a couple of years, but is this the price when Nenka is in danger!

[Max Lebedev]

Ukraine, which once had a developed world-class industry, is now pondering where to buy at least some kind of military aircraft on credit ... Progress!

[grandfather_Kostya]

Why the F-16? They could have started "import substitution" with the I-16. And to break a bottle of champagne on the slipway on the first plane would have found a descendant of Valery Chkalov.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

And I'm wondering: will Ukraine have time to get at least one F-16 before it dies?

[Dkuznecov]

Having a weak economy is also a defense.
Nobody needs you.
This is normal.
Teenagers also try to fight
do not get involved - the bones are not the same.
And the weight is not the same.
Normal Bulgarian script.

[Cowbra]

Iraq is selling there. Flightless, flightless. Well, just for the Wild Field - they don't fly on them, but "meet NATO standards." And the price is zero - in fact, just pay for the removal of scrap metal from the desert ... They will sell a couple of former collective farms along with the land - and buy

[dorz]

Quote: zyablik.olga

Several options are considered as the main candidate, but the Swedish Saab JAS-39E / F Gripen and the American F-16 Block 70/72 are called more preferable for the country's air force. In total, it is planned to purchase 72 to 108 fighters.

And for what pennies?

They have a military budget of $ 10 billion.

[Proxima]

Here is the key word in the title of the article: "In Ukraine, PROPOSED to buy ..." Everything else is not important. They offer a lot, a lot of things promise..Fantastic in one word.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: dorz

Quote: zyablik.olga

Several options are considered as the main candidate, but the Swedish Saab JAS-39E / F Gripen and the American F-16 Block 70/72 are called more preferable for the country's air force. In total, it is planned to purchase 72 to 108 fighters.

And for what pennies?

They have a military budget of $ 10 billion.

The budget of the Ukrainian army for 2021 is less than the budget of the Ukrainian army in 2020.
And it is $ 4 billion. Let's count.

.According to the National Security Strategy of Ukraine and the Concept for the Development of the Security and Defense Sector of Ukraine, the annual budgetary financing of the security and defense sector must be at least 5% of the gross domestic product (GDP). According to the draft State Budget of Ukraine for 2021, this amount should be UAH 267,1291 billion (5,93% of GDP).

However, the army directly through the Ministry of Defense will receive only UAH 117,504 702 billion. The rest will go to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine (UAH 98,2837404 billion), the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine (UAH 3,9921932 billion), the State Space Agency of Ukraine (UAH 0,5731627 billion), the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine (0,2509887, UAH 14,959 billion), the Security Service of Ukraine (UAH 6251 1,6548110 billion), the State Security Department (UAH 4,0109934 billion), the Foreign Intelligence Service (UAH 3,9420434 billion) and the Administration of the State Service for Special Communications and Information Protection (UAH XNUMX billion) hryvnias), etc. in order to finance measures to improve the defense capability and security of the state, the material and technical support of these structures, the construction (acquisition) of housing for servicemen under their control.

... In the draft State Budget of Ukraine for 2021, expenses for the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine are provided in the amount of UAH 117,5 billion, which is UAH 0,5 billion less against the final version of the 2020 defense budget.

Also, do not forget that in the 2020 budget the dollar exchange rate was set at UAH 27,5, while in the 2021 budget it was UAH 29,1. That is, in dollar terms, the reduction in spending on the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be even more noticeable. Especially considering that in 2021 we are planning to purchase imported military equipment.

https://www.depo.ua/rus/war/viyskoviy-byudzhet-2021-skilki-ukraina-planue-vitratiti-na-zarplati-i-tekhniku-tablitsya-202012161259767

In total, we divide the amount of UAH 117,5 billion (military budget 2021) by the dollar exchange rate laid down in this budget in 2021 UAH 29,1. We get 4.037 dollars. (800 billion dollars).
Not as you mistakenly wrote 10 billion dollars.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: OrangeBigg

In total, we divide the amount of UAH 117,5 billion (military budget 2021) by the dollar exchange rate laid down in this budget in 2021 UAH 29,1. We get 4.037 dollars. (800 billion dollars).

And at a minimum price with a minimum quantity - more than three billion comes out ...
Again, they will begin to sue Gazprom. You look, what they will unscrew ...

[dorz]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Not as you mistakenly wrote 10 billion dollars.

"According to the draft State Budget of Ukraine for 2020, this amount should amount to UAH 245,7918 billion, which is 5,4% of GDP." I didn’t know that the sum would be divided among all Ukrainian security officials, but even the sum of $ 4 billion is more than the military budget of all the CSTO countries, not counting Russia combined. Underestimation has led / will lead to sad consequences ...

[bobba94]

The army of Ukraine is 260 thousand servicemen, not counting civilian personnel. They all have to be paid money, paid monthly. From 2021, the salaries of military personnel will be increased. Officers will receive an average of $ 950 per month, NCOs and enlisted personnel $ 500 - $ 700 per month. This is at least $ 2,5 billion per year. I'm only talking about the pay of the military ...

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

I don’t understand one thing: why do the chubaty have an army? They work for the EU. The fleet was profiled. Donbass, no. There is no coal, oil, gas. The land is almost sold. Why would they need the army? .. To earn a pension?

[Yeraz]

Quote: bobba94

This is at least $ 2,5 billion per year. I'm only talking about the pay of the military ...

that is, the conscripts will receive 500 dollars a month for Ukraine? I strongly doubt it.

[bobba94]

To be honest, I doubt it too much. They have great desires, I mean the regulations adopted at the end of last year on increasing the salaries of servicemen. Let's take a look.

[Pereira]

Reparations from Russia. They are about to defeat us.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: zyablik.olga

Several options are considered as the main candidate, but the Swedish Saab JAS-39E / F Gripen and the American F-16 Block 70/72 are called more preferable for the country's air force. In total, it is planned to purchase 72 to 108 fighters.

And for what pennies?

There are a lot of plans, as always. But how the implementation will be is a big question.

Today the Ukrainian Air Force consists of.

... According to the analytical publication The Military Balance, the Ukrainian Air Force has 80 Su-27 and MiG-29 fighters, 14 front-line Su-24 bombers, 31 Su-25 attack aircraft and about 50 helicopters.

Plans for the next 15 years.

... About a hundred modern multifunctional fighters, promising drones, a new transport aircraft, disposal of obsolete vehicles - the Defense Express information and consulting agency has published a plan for the development of Ukrainian military aviation until 2035. It has already been approved by the Military Council of the country's Air Force. The plans are extremely ambitious: in 15 years, in fact, create a new type of troops.

The resources you plan to spend.

... The Ukrainian authorities plan to spend a record 200 billion hryvnia on updating the aircraft fleet - $ 7,5 billion at the current exchange rate. Note that the entire military budget of Ukraine for 2020 is just over 100 billion hryvnia. Nevertheless, in the next two years, Kiev will announce a tender for the supply of multi-functional fighters of the 4 ++ generation. Russian options, of course, are not being considered. Interested in the American F-16 Block 70/72 and the Swedish Saab JAS-39 E / F Gripen. It is emphasized that the vehicle should be versatile, capable of replacing both fighters and front-line bombers. It will become the only type of aircraft in the combat units of tactical aviation, which, according to Kiev's plan, will save resources.

The ultimate goal of the reform of the Ukrainian Air Force. Not only everyone will live in Ukraine until 2035 at the present time.

... By 2025, Povitryany Sely expects to receive the first batch of six to twelve vehicles for trial operation, training of pilots and ground personnel. By 2030, they plan to transfer two tactical aviation brigades to the new fighters, transferring eight to twelve aircraft a year. By 2035, the Air Force of Ukraine should be completely reformed and transferred to new equipment. They will consist of four tactical aviation brigades, four reconnaissance and attack drone regiments, a transport and special aviation brigade, and a training brigade.

https://ria.ru/20200531/1572189510.html

[Avior]

8 planes a year is about 350 million dollars a year.
It is quite upbeat for Ukraine.
Given the fact that the United States will pay a part for sure one way or another

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

And for what pennies?

They will find the money, most of the planes will be paid by the United States within the framework of some program to help Ukrainian "democracy".

For the United States, every dollar spent on the Maidan and the war in Ukraine will return multiples.

Another point is that to tear Ukraine away from Russia, they struck the 6th, we lost a market of 40 million people and all our joint projects in space, aviation, ground forces and at sea were slowed down.

Yes, we solved some of these problems, but at the cost of additional time and additional resources.

We, at least some kind of information stuffing, what needs to be done, that there will be a reward for the donated NM of Donbass Javelin or any other sample of NATO technology))).

Maybe at least not so actively these devils will pump up Ukraine with weapons.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

For the United States, every dollar spent on the Maidan and the war in Ukraine will return multiples. Another point is that to tear Ukraine away from Russia, they attacked us ...

Briefly and very logical: old man Bzezhinsky applauds you from the other world.
I don’t think that the Americans will help to realize all the wishes of the 404s, but they will continue to pump 404s and tear their historical memory, connections, traditions ... amen

[Insurgent]

"Time to get in line": Ukraine offers to buy American F-16 fighters

Quote: zyablik.olga

And for what pennies?

In the meantime, the Outskirts are in line for the next tranche, for which anyway, sooner or later, in one form or another, you will have to pay ...

Not in coin, so in lives.

[TermNachTer]

The question is not that there is no money))) the main thing is to quickly raze the money that is now and just as quickly dump it "over the hill". Therefore, you can plan to purchase even F - 22, anyway no one was going to buy them)))

[Incvizitor]

The European lackeys FSA will lend money so that this old scrap will be bought from FSA and then loans and interest will be paid to us.

[svp67]

Quote: zyablik.olga

And for what pennies?

More tariffs will be raised ...

It is noted that the cost of the F-16 combat-ready fighter can range from 43 to 55 million per unit, depending on the configuration, but it can be even higher.

Not "maybe", but for sure, since you will have to change all maintenance equipment and machinery ...

[fruc]

... several options are being considered, but the Swedish Saab JAS-39E / F Gripen and the American F-16 Block 70/72 are called more preferable for the country's air force ....

The us regional committee in Ukraine will not allow ukram to conclude a contract with Sweden.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Sweden will not sell fighters to a belligerent country. They are pacifists there.
For Ukraine, the best option is the Korean KAI T-50. Cheaper, simpler, it carries almost the entire range of modern missiles and bombs. And he's half American. Engines, weapons, some of the avionics from there.

[Pereira]

They recently looked closely at Tucano.

[Pechkin]

OgnennyiKotik

For Ukraine, the best option is the Korean KAI T-50.

I agree, I do not know why you are being minus. This plane is safer for our air force than the F-16 viper. Better to take it as the main LFI Super Tucano.

[Reviews]

Quote: frruc

... several options are being considered, but the Swedish Saab JAS-39E / F Gripen and the American F-16 Block 70/72 are called more preferable for the country's air force ....

Non-poor Austria, and she says that the SAABs are a little expensive, but here GreatUkria ...

[Cron]

Oh, stupid, they don't dig there. There you just need to give a special status to Donbass, hold elections, gain control over the border and begin to quickly get out of the pit in which they find themselves. But this does not give a damn about the people, they have another training manual on the table from the overseas owners.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

First, they need to adopt a law on the special status of Donbass, which will have its own people's militia, Russian as the state language and the right to free trade with Russia.

And only then control over the border and the LDNR as part of Ukraine.

That is, the Maidan authorities of Ukraine are essentially trapped, despite the obligations they have signed, they cannot fulfill them, since the world is not included in the US plans, and in general I think they are afraid that such autonomy of Donbass will very quickly grow into independence, and already into borders of Donetsk and Luhansk regions.

The Ukrainian authorities do not want peace, but on the contrary war, and the result is not important to them, their goal is the process itself and so that it lasts as long as possible

[Cron]

First, they need to adopt a law on the special status of Donbass, which will have its own people's militia, Russian as the state language and the right to free trade with Russia. And only then control over the border and the LDNR as part of Ukraine.

I, in my opinion, indicated this sequence.

The Ukrainian authorities do not want peace, but on the contrary war, and the result is not important to them, their goal is the process itself and so that it lasts as long as possible

So far, it looks more like they do not need this electorate, which will significantly strengthen the opposition parties and allow the adoption of other laws.
And they do not need regions with a special status either, since this will push other regions to such an aspiration. With this forcibly implanted Ukrainization and local activists and Nazis, who will not be there. They will also be able, in my opinion, to trade with Russia and conclude agreements. And this is already the tariffs are completely different than in the rest of Ukraine, where they are horse-drawn.
In fact, it will be a state within a state. What is mortally dangerous for the current government pursuing a policy of total Russophobia

[Dkuznecov]

First, they need to pass a law on the special status of Donbass,
where will there be a people's militia (for what?, there is nowhere to put the policemen?),
Russian as the state language (why exactly?
you can Serbian as neutral for example)
and the right to free trade with Russia (and with Cuba, so for fun).

For you personally, if you are a citizen of the Russian Federation, why do you need this special status?
Get two pensions?
It makes no sense to touch this topic, they fought themselves,
smashed noses, let the pensions and mines saw themselves.
I think, let their own porridge, which they have brewed, rake themselves too.
Let's not pry into someone else's question. The Armenians will confirm.
The helicopters will be intact.

[Incvizitor]

They all have Bandera fascists and fascists rule, they will not allow the war to end, this is not why this "country"

[faiver]

I suspect that Ukraine will buy used aircraft

[tarabar]

Why buy straight away? You can ask, groom, beg. An exhausted look and devoted eyes sometimes work wonders.

[rotmistr60]

Ukraine proposes to buy American F-16 fighters

Why be shy and buy the F-35 right away. They go crazy no longer quietly, but loudly, ostentatiously and with a hysterical love for the USA.

[Dym71]

Quote: rotmistr60

Why be shy and buy the F-35 right away.

On the rights of those especially affected by the Kremlin occupation, you can stand in line for the Raptor!

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Dym71

Quote: rotmistr60

Why be shy and buy the F-35 right away.

On the rights of those especially affected by the Kremlin occupation, you can stand in line for the Raptor!

To their great regret, it is impossible for the Raptor: it is completely and irrevocably out of production.

[Dym71]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

To their great regret, it is impossible for the Raptor: it is completely and irrevocably out of production.

And I didn’t know that the last one was released in 2011, what can you say, it means to stand up for a used treasure!

[Pete mitchell]

There seem to be problems with production equipment; at some point the Americans themselves thought about it, but they counted and wept. They know how to count

[Cowbra]

Quote: Dym71

On the rights of those especially affected by the Kremlin occupation, you can stand in line for the Raptor!

Fall to the roots ...

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: rotmistr60

Ukraine proposes to buy American F-16 fighters

Why be shy and buy the F-35 right away. They go crazy no longer quietly, but loudly, ostentatiously and with a hysterical love for the USA.

So the Pin Dos policy is that, first you have to buy an F-16 at a fabulous price, and then you will be condescendingly given the opportunity to touch the great - to buy an F-35 at an even more inflated price. Here are uk ry squealing joyfully, "ostentatiously and with hysterical love" are trying to declare themselves to the owner. Well, then, as usual ...... "Give me a penny!"

[Victorio]

in queue
===
keyword for us vassals

[VORON538]

First, let them stand in line for money, and only then, when the loan is approved, for the goods!

[alexmach]

The total production of the F-16 until 2031 may be 1,1-1,4 thousand units

Wow. And our factories are forced to fight for export contracts for a dozen fighters.

[OgnennyiKotik]

The US Air Force is considering the possibility of purchasing more F16s, they do not have time to produce the required number of F35s to replace aircraft that have exhausted their resource.

[Herman 4223]

Isn't it the same company that makes them? Isn't it easier to redirect production capacity, or expand production capabilities?

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Herman 4223

It is not easier to redirect production capacity

Impossible. Between these planes there is little more in common than nothing. They make different factories, with different production lines. For the F35, components are generally produced by a dozen countries.
While this is just a discussion of development options, I bet that the drone programs will accelerate.

[evgen1221]

Ukraine can only get into one position and can only rely on used fighters from this batch and only at the price of a new one.

[Prax1]

Where will they get the money from, and the choice is certainly good. Proven machine with a wide range of weapons

[Orange bigg]

The United States will leave them no choice; the colony has no choice. Only F-16s are used and several times more expensive than the real price.

[Incvizitor]

What will the owners say and choose what choice the colony has in general?

[bar]

Ukraine may have time to "get in line" for these planes

Country 404 even just stand in line next to decent countries, great happiness and yet another peremoga

[Incvizitor]

Decent countries produce their own and not stand in line for old foreigners.

[Lord of the Sith]

Will they throw off one or two jets for all the poor Ukrainian farms?)))
And then how Popandopulo will be changed for harem pants

[Dzafdet]

So I'm curious, they write that the country 404 is bent, they have no money in the budget .. And the dollar rate = 29 hryvnia, and we have a lot of money, and the rate = 73 rubles. How can this be?

[dauria]

So I'm curious, they write that the country 404 is bent

". In the square, despite the assurances of Prusis, the corpses were not lying around, people were cheerfully on their feet, and some of them even laughed. coffins "

[Ros 56]

And what is the rate of the Japanese yen to the dollar, do not remind?

[Quadro]

Nonsense again. The ruble exchange rate fell 2-2.5 times, the hryvnia ALSO fell 2 times, if not more. Message from the category "in the usa 300 thousand rubles salary"

[Incvizitor]

From this logic, China has already bent with their course and Vietnam has been dead for a long time.

[Herman 4223]

The funny thing is that if Russia wants to seize Ukraine, it won't save it. It's just that the money will not be spent on pensions and benefits, but on the purchase of expensive equipment from someone else's uncle. And the amount will not be small.

[Prisoner]

Again svidomye hit the mriya. While they are standing in line, you see, miraculously, pennies will ring in leaky pockets. Just when the turn comes.

[Ros 56]

Only those who are over 30 years old, these Bandera savages will pass for new ones.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Ros 56

Only those who are over 30 years old, these Bandera savages will pass for new ones.

And for these 30 years, for some reason they could not buy a SINGLE aircraft, and suddenly "manna from heaven" fell from somewhere and the outskirts began to buy F-16s. Is this a fake, a fairy tale or reality?

[APASUS]

Several options are being considered as the main candidate, but the Swedish Saab JAS-39E / F Gripen and the American are called more preferable for the country's Air Force. Several options are being considered as the main candidate, but the Swedish Saab JAS-39E / F Gripen and the American F-16 Block 70/72.

In my opinion, what is nonsense, do the Ukrainians have a choice? The F-16 is unambiguous, because just as the Americans give money, there are none of their own.

... In total, it is planned to purchase 72 to 108 fighters.

And this is generally fantastic, 10-12 pieces can still contain and no more

[tihonmarine]

Quote: APASUS

In my opinion, what is nonsense, do the Ukrainians have a choice? The F-16 is unambiguous, because just as the Americans give money, there are none of their own.

Most likely, they will not give money to the Ukrainians, but will write as a debt.

[APASUS]

Quote: tihonmarine

Most likely, they will not give money to the Ukrainians, but will write as a debt.

They do not give to anyone at all. They simply write off funds from the American aid program and so everyone gets it. Israel also orders an F-35 for itself.

[Avior]

F-16 is a good choice.
And at a price of 8 aircraft per year, this is 350-400 million. The amount is noticeable, but quite real.

[tihonmarine]

Ukraine may have time to "get in line" for these planes

I'm afraid they won't be in time. When the turn comes, the outskirts as a country may not exist.

[zwlad]

The total production of the F-16 until 2031 may be 1,1-1,4 thousand units.

Such a good volume of the order!
Envy already takes.

[rusich]

They can queue up. And for what pennies the skakunets will buy planes

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Do the chubats have money? .. dreamers .. If they give them a couple of new planes, then in exchange, for land.

[Skif]

They will give a loan.

[Viktor Sergeev]

For Ukraine, the price will be in the region of $ 500 million per unit, and the decommissioned scrap metal will be brought from the trash heap.

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: dorz

Quote: zyablik.olga

Several options are considered as the main candidate, but the Swedish Saab JAS-39E / F Gripen and the American F-16 Block 70/72 are called more preferable for the country's air force. In total, it is planned to purchase 72 to 108 fighters.

And for what pennies?

They have a military budget of $ 10 billion.

the entire military budget ....... and for the purchase of weapons 19 billion hryvnia, which is equal to 675 million North American money

[FRoman1984]

If they are going to switch to Western technology, then they should first of all pay attention to the F-15EX / CX. More thrust-armed and advanced overall vehicle than Grippens and F-16s.

[Skif]

Where is the money, Zin ?!

[wow]

The word "purchase" implies the presence of such things as rubles, dollars, tugriks, rupees, yuan, crowns, stamps, etc. .... You can pay with diamonds, rubies, emeralds and other compact ones. but valuable things. And the U.s.r.a.i.n. has IT !? Or the hope is again that "wesh is entwined with us, we will blow it ..."

[petrol cutter]

Well this is what "shishi" and such expenses? !!
Buy an airplane ... Yes, not one ... At least two. Who will fly on yom?
Buy something any ..... Maybe. Next, what to do with this happiness?
And the service staff? And the spare parts? And the ammunition load?
UA suddenly inherited from her deceased grandfather? ..