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Deadlines for the completion of the repair of the diesel-electric submarine B-871 "Alrosa"

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Deadlines for the completion of the repair of the diesel-electric submarine B-871 "Alrosa"

The repair of the B-871 Alrosa submarine, which has been at the 2014th Shipyard in Sevastopol since the summer of 13, is scheduled to be completed by the end of 2021. Reported by TASS with reference to the representative of the enterprise.


The company reported that the technical readiness of the submarine today is 80%, it is planned to complete the repair by the end of 2021. According to the interlocutor of the news agency, they are not ready to name more exact dates for the completion of work at the plant, since many factors affect the progress of the repair.

The source specified that the submarine is being repaired with "elements of modernization."

Note that the multi-purpose diesel submarine B-871 "Alrosa" until 2013 was the only combat-ready submarine of the Black Sea fleet... It was laid down at the Krasnoye Sormovo plant in Nizhny Novgorod in May 1988 and was built according to the 877B Halibut project with one design change - instead of a propeller, a water jet was installed on the boat. She entered the fleet on December 30, 1990.

In 2014, it was delivered for repair and modernization at the 13th shipyard in Sevastopol. Initially, it was supposed to enter the combat composition of the fleet in 2017, then in 2019, now the dates have been shifted to 2021.

In 2018, it was reported about plans to redeploy Alrosa after repairs from the Black Sea Fleet to the Baltic Fleet due to the absence of submarines in the latter.
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  1. Eldorado
    Eldorado 26 January 2021 12: 16
    +10
    They were refurbished in 2014, but work began only in 2018.
    By the way, the DKBF has a submarine - "Dmitrov".
    1. potap6509
      potap6509 26 January 2021 12: 28
      0
      I saw it in the series, I don't remember the name, it was there that the Dmitrov boat was shown, a series about sailors, including the Baltic.
      1. keeper03
        keeper03 26 January 2021 19: 40
        +3
        Guys, it’s okay to do repairs for 7 years!?! No. Are you out of your mind? !! belay request
        1. bayard
          bayard 26 January 2021 22: 46
          0
          The renovation began only in 2018.
          Before that, she was simply SENT for repair.
          Apparently the shipyard was not ready for such work.
      2. Nemchinov Vl
        Nemchinov Vl 27 January 2021 16: 47
        +1
        Quote: potap6509
        I saw it in the series, I don't remember the name, it was there that the Dmitrov boat was shown, a series about sailors, including the Baltic.
        No (!).
        B-871 "Alrosa", lit up in the series, - "Autonomics", where the role of the beginning of the fur. parts performed by E. Flerov (!)... there repeatedly, during the shooting, in the captain's cabin, boats, the operators blinked and removed the award sheets with the name "Alrosa", - and it was funny (!)... And it's about the Black Sea Fleet ... among the "bloopers", in case of emergency (when I lay down on the ground), in the same role - the cruiser was removed EM 956 "Sarych"that are on the Black Sea Fleet for a long time (!)...
  2. evgen1221
    evgen1221 26 January 2021 12: 31
    +3
    I remember that with such pomp, bureaucrats and businessmen from ALROSA (a diamond plundering company) stated in the media when the boat was launched that the curator, represented by such respected people, would make the entire life of the boat in one holiday, because the financial sponsors (for which the name was bought). And that, since 2015, the money for the PR project has apparently run out - again, out of habit, have they thrown off the costs of the state?
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      1. donavi49
        donavi49 26 January 2021 12: 52
        +7
        The key problem of this diesel-electric submarine is to throw it away, but it is not particularly needed either.

        At one time, it was collected from what was found. There, and the systems of the export entity and experienced and all sorts. Plus a unique propeller that also poses a lot of problems. As a result, this is a unique boat that differs from the old type, from the old modernized type and from the new 636. There are problems with provision, preparation and the current HTG.
        1. Max Lebedev
          Max Lebedev 26 January 2021 13: 54
          +17
          If the repair can be completed, there will be another nominal unit for coastal waters.
          Since the funds have already been invested, then let them at least finish it - this is better than sending it now for cutting.
        2. bayard
          bayard 26 January 2021 22: 56
          0
          Quote: donavi49
          As a result, this is a unique boat that differs from the old type, from the old modernized type and from the new 636. There are problems with provision, preparation and the current HTG.

          Similar submarines are at the Pacific Fleet, and at the Northern Fleet, and even one at the Baltic Fleet, so there is where to get / order components for repair. It is another matter that the shipyard in Sevastopol could not carry out such work until recently, there "Moscow" was being repaired. And there are not enough personnel. And money.
      2. faiver
        faiver 26 January 2021 12: 57
        +2
        not individuals.
        - Alrosa is a state corporation, not private individuals
        1. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 26 January 2021 14: 29
          +1
          Now 34% of Alrosa's shares belong to the Federal Property Management Agency, another 33 to the Republic of Sakha and its uluses, and only 34% in free circulation, are traded on the stock exchange, anyone can buy by opening a brokerage account.

          We should be glad that large companies, in addition to paying taxes, also supported the fleet in difficult times as humanitarian aid.
    2. alexmach
      alexmach 26 January 2021 13: 06
      +5
      Well, firstly, the boat has served for 24 years, and it's time for a medium repair. Secondly, do you think the businessmen should have kept it for life or what? Well, "warmed up", forgive for the surzhik, they once did it in difficult times, but the average repair with modernization is not their business. And for good, the boat should be renamed into something decent, of course.
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 26 January 2021 13: 36
        -7
        So the heating was promised with a hoof in the chest with payment for repairs and other routine. PR show in Novorusskiy they are like that.))
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 26 January 2021 14: 51
          +3
          Quote: evgen1221
          promised a hoof in the chest with payment for repairs and other routine

          There was not one word about the repairs in the patronage agreement! And the sailors of the Black Sea Fleet remember with gratitude all the help that these "Novorusskys" rendered to the fleet! Novorosskie and not emocommunists !!!
      2. Serg65
        Serg65 26 January 2021 14: 47
        +1
        Quote: alexmach
        And for good, the boat should be renamed into something decent, of course.

        what Well, yes ... when the salary was swollen from hunger and salary every six months and not a decent name will come down ... but right now, you can forget about everything, we do not eat golima barley tea!
    3. Serg65
      Serg65 26 January 2021 14: 45
      +4
      Quote: evgen1221
      I remember that with such fanfare, bureaucrats and businessmen from ALROSA (a diamond plundering company) stated in the media when the boat was launched

      laughing Nice man, when the ALROSSA boat was launched, it was not even in the project!
      Quote: evgen1221
      The curator, represented by such respected people, will make the entire life of the boat in one holiday, because the financial sponsors (for which the name was bought)

      The patronage of the B-871 was taken at the request of the veteran of the KChF Rear Admiral Andreev, Fyodor Andreev ... the general director of Alrossa, the son of this admiral! The boat and its crew survived exactly this patronage! And I will also surprise you ... K-535 got its name in honor of Yuri Luzhkov wink .... is there a ship named after Zyuganov ... or Grudinin .... or, for example, Platoshkin ... I'm afraid to ask about Navalny .... ?????
      Quote: evgen1221
      out of habit, have they thrown off government spending?

      The sub is privately owned ???
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 26 January 2021 14: 50
        -4
        And that they continue to support the ectpage and families, plus donate for repairs or self-admiration piaraction (apparently few great people in the country, they decided to immortalize their loved ones) is over.
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 26 January 2021 15: 03
          +3
          Quote: evgen1221
          And what-continue to support ectpage

          Continue!
          Quote: evgen1221
          or piaraction on narcissism

          what Where were you native in 96? You could have called the same boat by your name, and not for the price of all that a carriage of stewed meat and a couple of cars of barley! wink
  3. Guru
    Guru 26 January 2021 12: 57
    0
    Lord chatlana enlighten me; From bottom to top, Alrosa, Pike and the third, what kind of apparatus?
    1. val43
      val43 26 January 2021 13: 08
      +7
      S-49, project 633RV, the so-called "double-barreled gun", created for testing the RC "Waterfall" and "Wind". By the way, I never heard that the 641st was called the Pike. 641B is really Catfish, and 641 is Foxtrot (NATO).
      1. Eldorado
        Eldorado 26 January 2021 13: 35
        +3
        The C-49 is now a floating charging station for the Varshavyanka.
      2. Guru
        Guru 26 January 2021 13: 59
        +1
        val43 (Valery)
        Today, 13: 08
        I'm not an expert in the submarine fleet, that's why I asked.
        1. val43
          val43 26 January 2021 14: 30
          +3
          No problem. It's easy for me.
    2. Nasrat
      Nasrat 26 January 2021 13: 10
      +2
      Quote: Guru
      Lord chatlana enlighten me;

      https://zen.yandex.md/media/id/5dd92979a9876a758f94f631/chto-v-nosu-etoi-sovetskoi-podlodki-proekty-613rv-i-633rv-5f48c4bdecbbbd281197df34
    3. Serg65
      Serg65 26 January 2021 14: 54
      +4
      Quote: Guru
      third, what kind of apparatus?

      The last "Romeo"
  4. for
    for 26 January 2021 13: 11
    0
    Here's another need to revive the project (only unmanned), it will be cooler than Poseidon.
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 26 January 2021 13: 37
      -2
      If, like with Kursk, then thanks inappropriately. Although the idea for cutting is gorgeous and is waiting for its Kurchevskys and Tukhachevskys.
  5. A_Lex
    A_Lex 26 January 2021 13: 55
    +3
    What is the point of repairing an already old boat for 7 years, if a new Warsaw boat is introduced into the fleet a maximum of 3 years after the laying? During the time that Alrosa was being repaired, it was already possible to enter into the BF 2 new submarines of project 636.3.
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 26 January 2021 14: 32
      +1
      During the time that Alrosa was being repaired, it was already possible to enter into the BF 2 new submarines of project 636.3.


      How?!

      Make people work 16 hours a day every shift?

      Where to build? At what capacities?

      Or do you think that an unlimited number of ships and submarines can be laid at a shipyard ?!
      1. A_Lex
        A_Lex 26 January 2021 14: 42
        -2
        Make people work 16 hours a day every shift?
        Or do you think that an unlimited number of ships and submarines can be laid at a shipyard ?!


        There is no point in commenting on delusional assumptions.

        In the meantime, it is necessary to understand if there is a reason for righteous indignation, the consequence of which is the use of the signs "?!". To do this, you need to know for sure that in the Russian Federation there is no technical possibility for the simultaneous construction of more than 2 boats of Project 636.

        It is known for certain that Project 636 boats were built not only at the Admiralty shipyards, but also at Sevmash and the Krasnoye Sormovo plant. At the Admiralty shipyards, at least 2 times in parallel, 3 boats of project 636 were built: in 2004 for China and in 2014 for the Russian Federation.
        1. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 26 January 2021 14: 49
          +1
          So boats are being built of this project even right now, and other ships are also being built and built in batches, as the batch is ready - they lay more.

          It could have probably ordered more.

          And even if there were more, then this is not a reason to write off a ship that needs repair.

          The repairs are taking place in Sevastopol and I don’t think that since 2014 there has been everything that would allow the boat to be quickly repaired.

          And now the repair company will gain experience in Alrosa, and then it will repair all the other boats of this type faster and right on the spot, and not drive them to St. Petersburg.

          While the project was being worked out, some of the equipment was delivered, again the time for delivery and installation and adjustment, people were recruited, someone was additionally trained.

          Now I'll fill my hand and they will repair it faster.
          1. A_Lex
            A_Lex 26 January 2021 15: 02
            -1
            It could have probably ordered more.


            This is not known for certain. Assumptions are not interesting. The only interesting thing is the availability of technical feasibility, because this is the only deterrent. As for the money for the construction of new 636s, they still exist, and even more so they were in 2014.
            1. Ratmir_Ryazan
              Ratmir_Ryazan 26 January 2021 15: 11
              +2
              We have a budget deficit this year, and since 2014 there has been a crisis, if you haven't noticed.

              And besides boats, we need a lot more.

              This is about money, that is, "as much as you want" there is no such thing.

              And if we take purely technical aspects, it would be possible to build boats faster, they would do it, this is obvious. We now need them like air in the Black Sea (count now in the Mediterranean) and in the Pacific Fleet, and the speed of construction that is now is the maximum of our efforts.

              And the 13th shipyard has been nationalized only since 2015 and transferred to the ownership of the city of Sevastopol. While the work of such an enterprise will be adjusted, it will also take a lot of time. I do not think that they could immediately take it and make repairs there, and even with the modernization of diesel-electric submarines.
          2. alexmach
            alexmach 26 January 2021 17: 30
            -1
            And now the repair company will gain experience in Alrosa, and then it will repair all the other boats of this type faster and right on the spot, and not drive them to St. Petersburg.

            What are the others of the same type? Varshavyanka or what?
        2. frog
          frog 26 January 2021 15: 50
          +2
          Forget about the submarine at Krasny Sormovo ..... Obviously, for a long time, if not forever.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 26 January 2021 14: 51
        +6
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        How?!

        Traditional. To do this, it was necessary in 2014 to make a decision not to repair Alrosa, but to increase the "Black Sea" order to the Admiralty shipyards from 6 to 8 submarines of pr. 636.3.
        The last three Black Sea submarines were delivered by the shipyard in less than two years (from laying down to commissioning).
        1. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 26 January 2021 14: 59
          0
          To increase the order for 2 diesel-electric submarines of pr.636.3 is, firstly, another 600 million dollars, and secondly, a shift in the timing of the construction of boats for the Pacific Fleet.

          And at the Pacific Fleet, the Japanese and the Americans already recognize the Kurils as the territory of Japan and can arrange their "Nagorno-Karabakh" for us soon.

          Another point is that the boats of Project 636.3 will also need to be repaired and modernized over time, and here, while there is still time, the shipyard can get a handle on repairing Alrosa in order to gain experience and subsequently make it faster and better.

          I strongly doubt that since 2014 everything was straight there to make high-quality repairs of such diesel-electric submarines.
          1. A_Lex
            A_Lex 26 January 2021 15: 04
            -5
            a shift in terms of the construction of boats for the Pacific Fleet.
            And at the Pacific Fleet, the Japanese and the Americans already recognize the Kurils as the territory of Japan
            there is time, you can "fill your hand" with the shipyard
            Strongly doubt


            Clear. Nonsense. In an emergency.
            1. Ratmir_Ryazan
              Ratmir_Ryazan 26 January 2021 15: 19
              0
              What do I owe you for saving me from my fantasies and unreasonable whining? ))

              Why write that you are adding an opponent to the "emergency"? Are you a schoolboy or a woman?
          2. V.I.P.
            V.I.P. 26 January 2021 20: 16
            +2
            And the boats of pr.636.3 can something oppose the Japanese or US Navy?)))) With our torpedoes?
            1. Ratmir_Ryazan
              Ratmir_Ryazan 26 January 2021 23: 23
              -2
              And what is wrong with the torpedoes and missiles of diesel-electric submarines pr.636.3?

              That nothing works? Our boats cannot hit a ship or a submarine? And Caliber can't hit anything either?
              1. V.I.P.
                V.I.P. 27 January 2021 13: 41
                +1
                The range of use of all our torpedoes is much shorter. The torpedo is the main weapon of the submarine to combat enemy boats
                1. Ratmir_Ryazan
                  Ratmir_Ryazan 27 January 2021 15: 02
                  -2
                  Russia is not standing still, our torpedoes will be no worse than the Japanese and NATO ones.
    2. frog
      frog 26 January 2021 15: 48
      +2
      "In December 2019, he (Rejepych) announced that from 2022 the Turkish Navy will receive one diesel-electric submarine of its own design annually. In total, six new submarines."

      The first such boat, called Piri Reis, based on the modernized German project Type-214TN, has already been launched. Its length is 68,35 meters, width - 6,3 meters, displacement of 1850 tons. Crew - 40 people. Equipped with eight modern 533-mm torpedo tubes, it is capable of destroying not only ships, but also ground targets with missile strikes, and laying minefields. She will go on combat patrols in 2022.

      And this is also a huge step forward for Ankara. After all, never before had the Turks built submarines themselves. The thirteen units in their fleet today were acquired from Germany. But, according to some reports, up to 80% of Piri Reis equipment is now exclusively of Turkish origin. And only about a fifth was purchased from the Germans. "
      But.....
      "Take the same" Anadolu ". The date of its official laying at the shipyard in Tuzla - February 2018. A little more than two years later - the launch of a huge ship. Commissioning of the Navy is scheduled for 2021."
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 26 January 2021 23: 28
        0
        I think Turkey will have problems with the construction of German diesel-electric submarines.

        They stopped selling spare parts for Bayraktar because of Erdogan's ambitions, and they won't be able to build boats.

        And so what is unique in the fact that Turkey bought 6 diesel-electric submarines from Germany ?! Erdogan has already lowered all reserves for the war and the army.
        1. frog
          frog 28 January 2021 17: 43
          0
          Since the Turks did not use submarines against Armenia, there will be no sanctions either. wink
          Whether problems arise will be seen. Personally, I will not be upset. But Rejepych has been upsetting "friends" for a long time, but real sanctions on the defense industry are somehow not very ...
          And so - nothing unusual, of course. The Turks build ships faster than us, more than we do in this theater of operations. UDC was lowered repeat And we won't talk about the fact that their land army is larger than our ground forces. It's okay.
          1. Ratmir_Ryazan
            Ratmir_Ryazan 29 January 2021 15: 14
            +1
            Turkey has a SV of 260 thousand, Russia has 280 thousand according to data from Viki.

            Where does Turkey have more ground forces?

            UDC and Russia laid in Kerch.

            Everything seems to be really normal, Russia develops all types of armed forces and builds equipment for them in large quantities, and without strain on the economy.

            Now, when the epat development will be basically completed and many samples will be mass-produced and the speed of construction will increase in our country and submarines and ships, and land equipment and aircraft.

            And the growing military power of Turkey once again speaks of the correctness of the political decision aimed at supporting Syria, otherwise in Tartus and Khmeimim there would be not Russian bases, but Turkish ones, and Syria itself would turn into a cancerous tumor in the form of hundreds of thousands of terrorists who would crawl from there to to all neighboring countries.

            Erdogan has already quarreled with everyone and annoys everyone, even India. Given that the Turkish economy is experiencing serious problems. How long they will last is unknown.

            Of course, Russia must take all this into account.

            It would be nice to reorient the tourist flow from Turkey to Greece and Egypt. Not to the detriment of vacationers, of course.
            Negotiate with the Greek side, maybe even create some kind of joint tourism venture, build a chain of first-class hotels, organize direct charter flights from major cities of Russia. The Greeks, too, may take some measures to ensure that the rest in Greece is both affordable and of high quality. It's the same with Egypt.
            Why do we annually support Turkey with billions of dollars through tourists, a country that deliberately shot down our plane, which did not threaten them in any way ?! We must support Greece and Egypt, at least they don’t belong to us, they even buy our weapons, despite the fact that the Greeks are in NATO.
            Personally, I will do so, I will not go to Turkey, I will go to Greece and Egypt as an alternative to an inexpensive vacation, even if Greece and Egypt are still inferior, but I do not want to feed the Turks.
            1. frog
              frog 29 January 2021 17: 17
              0
              As for the number ... Let's just say, different numbers are sounded, and somewhat larger than you brought))) Whom and what to believe is your business, of course wink
              Everything seems to be really normal, Russia develops all types of armed forces and builds equipment for them in large quantities, and without strain on the economy.

              Again, I will not touch upon questions of faith, I do not like it. But so, just in case, the basis of our military air defense is still Osa ... Well, other things, different, too ...
              And the growing military power of Turkey once again speaks of the correctness of the political decision aimed at supporting Syria, otherwise in Tartus and Khmeimim there would be not Russian bases, but Turkish ones, and Syria itself would turn into a cancerous tumor in the form of hundreds of thousands of terrorists who would crawl from there to to all neighboring countries.

              Of course, you are absolutely right.
              Only now ...... Is it Rejepych that the insidious ISIS (banned, of course, in the Russian Federation) bred in Syria?
              It was he who brought the state of affairs in Syria to a civil war, in which there is no end in sight?
              And in open sources, there is simply no information in this context. That is, you can endlessly "support" Bashar Hafezovich, especially at our expense ..... The stump is bright, IMHO
              As for the support of the Greeks with the Egyptians ..... It is logical, correct, promising. And, taking into account all our achievements, it is more than controversial.
  6. Ros 56
    Ros 56 26 January 2021 14: 48
    +2
    Are you completely stunned to repair boats for seven years?
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 26 January 2021 15: 01
      0
      Alrosa has not been repairing all 7 years, most of the time she was waiting for repairs.

      What do you think in Sevastopol everything was in 2014 ready for the repair of such diesel-electric submarines ?!
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 26 January 2021 15: 04
        0
        Yes, some thoughts and those abusive. recourse
  7. storm
    storm 26 January 2021 15: 01
    -1
    Of course, the BF is tight without a submarine fleet, but Varshavyanki and Halibuts are frankly too big there.
    Requires a series of six nuclear submarines pr. P-750 with VNU, according to their performance characteristics, they should ideally fit into the conditions of the Baltic.
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 26 January 2021 15: 15
      -3
      Requires a series of six nuclear submarines pr. P-750 with VNU, according to their performance characteristics, they should ideally fit into the conditions of the Baltic.


      Project P 750 is still under development, with the same success you can start building a 6th generation fighter.

      In the meantime, Alrosa alone will force our partners to burn diesel fuel and the resource of their anti-submarine forces in the Baltic.
    2. Crash
      Crash 26 January 2021 18: 09
      +1
      Why nuclear submarine VNEU? what And P-750B is not nuclear
  8. lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 26 January 2021 20: 59
    -4
    Quote: A_Lex
    a shift in terms of the construction of boats for the Pacific Fleet.
    And at the Pacific Fleet, the Japanese and the Americans already recognize the Kurils as the territory of Japan
    there is time, you can "fill your hand" with the shipyard
    Strongly doubt


    Clear. Nonsense. In an emergency.

    A person wrote to you in Russian and gave you a bit for thought. PYSY: Maybe you also play tanks?
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 26 January 2021 23: 17
      -2
      More specifically, write the essence of your claims.

      No need to smack nonsense with a clever look.

      I would love to play tanks, there is no time, a lot of work.