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Japanese expert: There are doubts that Chinese missiles can accurately hit an aircraft carrier from a distance of more than 1 km

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Japanese expert: There are doubts that Chinese missiles can accurately hit an aircraft carrier from a distance of more than 1 km

China has tested anti-ship ballistic missiles, hitting a moving target in the South China Sea with two missiles at once. However, Japan doubts that Chinese missiles are capable of hitting a ship at a great distance. Writes about this Japanese edition of JB Press.


On August 26, 2020, the Chinese military tested two anti-ship ballistic missiles at once. First, a DF-26B rocket was launched from Qinghai province, a few minutes later a second DF-21D rocket was launched from Zhejiang province. The target was an old ship, controlled from a distance. The missiles hit the ship almost simultaneously, sinking it.

The author of the article doubts the ability of Chinese missiles to hit moving targets. According to him, the ability of the DF-21D missiles to hit moving targets was not confirmed, but there were only unfounded statements about this as part of an information war in order to put pressure on the US Navy.

most experts have doubts that the so-called DF-21D and DF-26B anti-ship ballistic missiles can accurately hit a moving aircraft carrier from a distance of more than a thousand kilometers

- the author writes.

He stresses that China has not conducted long range trials against moving sea targets, so the claim that the DF-21D and DF-26B are anti-ship ballistic missiles is propaganda in information warfare.

There is information that the DF-21D and DF-26B missiles were tested in the Gobi Desert against fixed targets imitating aircraft carriers, but there is no confirmation of these missiles being tested at sea against moving targets.

he adds.

However, if the information about the tests carried out is reliable, then it can be stated that China has anti-ship ballistic missiles. But one should not be afraid of them, in order to hit a ship or an aircraft carrier, they must be launched in favorable conditions, i.e. by predetermined coordinates. China does not have the necessary infrastructure and training to guide missiles to aircraft carriers in real combat.

But there is still one danger, the author sums up: over time, China can improve these missiles and they can pose a threat to both the US Navy and Japan's self-defense forces.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 26 January 2021 08: 48
    +8
    Well, target designation of a moving target and control of a hypersonic warhead ...
    There are real problems here.
    Were the Chinese able to solve them reliably and how? This secret is great!
    1. Crowe
      Crowe 26 January 2021 08: 59
      +9
      There is no secret, everything is in the public domain
      “A source with knowledge of the situation in China said that Chinese forces have tested anti-ship ballistic missiles in the South China Sea that can target moving ships. The American military leader also acknowledged this fact.
      The tests took place in the water area between Hainan province and the Paracel Islands. According to the source, at first one DF-26B missile (with a range of four thousand kilometers) was launched from Qinghai province at the old vessel, which was controlled from a distance. A few minutes later, a second DF-21D missile (range of 1500 kilometers) was launched from Zhejiang province. The rockets hit the ship almost simultaneously and flooded it. "

      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B 26 January 2021 09: 05
        +10
        Quote: Crowe
        There is no secret, everything is in the public domain

        Well, can you name what exactly served as a means of detection and target designation?
        Satellite? Air reconnaissance aircraft? ZgRLS?
        AUG moves at a speed above 20 knots, that is, in half an hour of flight, a rocket moves a distance of over 10 miles.
        Guidance at the terminal site - GOS on what principle?
        1. Crowe
          Crowe 26 January 2021 09: 18
          +14
          And this is the Chinese comrades, yes, they are still hiding from all progressive mankind. But the very fact of hitting a moving target was, the Ippon Xperd wasted in vain. I think if it is true that the Soviet project of such a weapon (R-33) was taken as a basis, then, logically speaking, there is most likely a passive-active radar seeker, capable of receiving target signals or looking for it on its own, but on our rocket there are such problems as the appearance of a plasma shell around it when the rocket moves at high speed, which impedes the operation of the seeker and never decided, as far as I remember .. But this is just my guess, and there that the cunning Chinese put in there agree, this secret is great!
          1. Victor_B
            Victor_B 26 January 2021 09: 21
            +7
            Quote: Crowe
            And this is the Chinese comrades, yes, they are still hiding from all progressive mankind.

            It’s because of this that I “can’t do it” ... laughing
            Curiosity is eating my brain!
          2. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 26 January 2021 12: 02
            +1
            Quote: Crowe
            the very fact of hitting a moving target was, the Ipponian Xperd wasted in vain.

            He does not succeed. He just dabbled thinly out of fear and therefore shouts as loudly as possible that China cannot do anything and everything is bad. For complacency.
            At the widest point of the Sea of ​​Japan, from China to Tokyo, a little more than 1000 km. And where should the poor yupps go so that the Chinese do not shoot missiles at them? To the warm shores of California? I think America is unlikely to like it ... Moreover, China can also "finish shooting" to California.

            America also felt like an "unsinkable aircraft carrier" for quite some time. And even earlier, when aircraft carriers and airplanes did not exist in principle, I reliably felt myself in the middle of a puddle "Rudder, Britain, seas" ... Over time it became clear that there is NOTHING unsinkable in the world. Including, America and Britain are not.
            And as for Japan ... All that remains is, like a Tabaki jackal, to huddle to Sherkhan's paw. Nothing, for any Sherkhan there is his own Mowgli, who will skin him off ...
            1. Max Lebedev
              Max Lebedev 26 January 2021 14: 09
              +18
              hi It would be better if he was glad that in practice this was not checked.
              1. Vladimir Mashkov
                Vladimir Mashkov 26 January 2021 18: 47
                -1
                The Japanese have doubts ... I wonder if they are calming themselves or the Americans who sent the aircraft carrier? There is a chance to test it in practice. lol
        2. Anatoly 288
          Anatoly 288 26 January 2021 09: 20
          +7
          It seems to me everything is easier, if the Japanese are sure, then let them roll out their avik, and the Chinese will believe! And all the business is ...
          1. akropin
            akropin 26 January 2021 09: 46
            +7
            I support! Doubt is always a reason to experiment.
    2. Dodikson
      Dodikson 26 January 2021 09: 08
      -1
      What is there to think about - these missiles do not have a semi-active radar seeker, which must be directed from a third-party source.
      and if the rocket hits farther than the radio horizon, then there is only an active seeker, well, or thermal, but if there is a seeker, then fuck 800 km there, or 1600. because both so and so it is aimed at the target precisely through the GOS, and not through third-party target designation.
      therefore, the Japanese iskperd goes to the forest, because it is incompetent.
      at a distance of more than a thousand km, there is only one problem - to find the AUG so that you know in which area to fire the missiles. and not aiming a rocket at a target if it has already been experimentally confirmed that the seeker allows you to aim at a moving target
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 26 January 2021 09: 13
        +5
        Japanese expert: There are doubts that Chinese missiles can accurately hit an aircraft carrier from a distance of more than 1 km

        Generally, from a japanese source, this statement looks like complacency...
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 26 January 2021 09: 39
          +2
          Quote: Insurgent
          Japanese expert: There are doubts that Chinese missiles can accurately hit an aircraft carrier from a distance of more than 1 km

          Do you want to check on your ships? So that all doubts disappear
        2. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 26 January 2021 12: 05
          +1
          Quote: Insurgent
          In general, from a Japanese source, this statement looks complacent ...

          I think that even now China has something to erase, if not Japanese aircraft carriers, then at least Japan itself, not only from the political, but also from the physical map of the world.
        3. ironic
          ironic 26 January 2021 19: 08
          -1
          Rather, they look like a natural bewilderment, because a ballistic rocket against a ship with a conventional head, it can only be from bezishodnost.
      2. Victor_B
        Victor_B 26 January 2021 09: 13
        +2
        Quote: Dodikson
        if it has already been experimentally confirmed that the GOS allows you to aim at a moving target

        Well, since we are talking about Chinese missiles, then "for what purpose you are interested" is not relevant.
        Aiming at a moving target through the hypersonic plasma is a VERY not trivial task, perhaps the head had already switched to supersonic by this time (wai note?), But then it becomes a legitimate air defense target.
        1. Dodikson
          Dodikson 26 January 2021 09: 17
          -1
          BR of China can be shot down and on hypersound. for the SM-3 is designed for high-speed ballistic targets.
          and the GOS can work on hypersound. But in theory, Iskander has an optical seeker, and if it works only at the end, then yes, there the speed is already Mach 2.5, and not 7 as on the cruising section.
          but the dagger is hypersonic and there should definitely be a seeker. so there is a way.
      3. Quadro
        Quadro 26 January 2021 09: 14
        -1
        Quote: Dodikson
        What is there to think about - these missiles do not have a semi-active radar seeker, which must be directed from a third-party source.
        and if the rocket hits farther than the radio horizon, then there is only an active seeker, well, or thermal, but if there is a seeker, then fuck 800 km there, or 1600. because both so and so it is aimed at the target precisely through the GOS, and not through third-party target designation.
        therefore, the Japanese iskperd goes to the forest, because it is incompetent.
        at a distance of more than a thousand km, there is only one problem - to find the AUG so that you know in which area to fire the missiles. and not aiming a rocket at a target if it has already been experimentally confirmed that the seeker allows you to aim at a moving target

        Don't ruin the local Xperd world. They still live at the end of the 20th century, thinking that there almost divers should illuminate an aircraft carrier with a laser.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 27 January 2021 23: 23
          0
          Don't ruin the local Xperd world. They still live at the end of the 20th century, thinking that there almost divers should illuminate an aircraft carrier with a laser

          It's actually full of problems.
      4. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 26 January 2021 09: 48
        +3
        Quote: Dodikson
        therefore, the Japanese iskperd goes to the forest, because it is incompetent.

        It would be better for this expert to be concerned that in the event of a cut with the United States, the Chinese missiles will definitely not miss the American bases located in Japan.
    3. Finches
      Finches 26 January 2021 09: 21
      +1
      Well, what can the Chinese answer here, if we only recall the saying of the Greek poet Archilochus: "We are not rising to the level of our expectations; we are sinking to the level of our preparation!"
      1. dSK
        dSK 26 January 2021 09: 47
        0
        Confucius is not a poet, he is an ideologist. We never dreamed of the pace of development of China, and neither did the United States. Soon he will overtake everyone.
        A nuclear warhead of 10-20 kilotons is guaranteed to put them out of the AUG for a long time, even if it misses a dozen kilometers ...
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 26 January 2021 08: 49
    +4
    Japanese expert: There are doubts that Chinese missiles can accurately hit an aircraft carrier from a distance of more than 1 km

    Until you check, you won't know.
    1. Crowe
      Crowe 26 January 2021 08: 57
      +10
      That's for sure !!! "And if you don't believe, take it and check it out. The same DF-26 is the first Chinese ballistic missile capable of being equipped with a conventional warhead, which is capable of hitting the island of Guam from a distance of 4000 kilometers, where the largest strategic US military base is located. in the Pacific Ocean.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 26 January 2021 09: 17
        +7
        Quote: Crowe
        If you do not believe, take it and check it out. The same DF-26 is the first Chinese ballistic missile capable of being equipped with a conventional warhead, which is capable of hitting the island of Guam from a distance of 4000 kilometers, where the largest strategic US military base in the Pacific is located.

        In Guam, they definitely won't miss. yes

        And relatively "conventionality"... A number of conventions impose bans or restrictions on a number of weapons, AP mines, chemical and bacteriological weapons, but as we see, NOT ALL of them are even ready to consider ...
  3. nsm1
    nsm1 26 January 2021 08: 50
    +2
    These rockets are a hundred years old by lunchtime.
    We woke up like.
  4. 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 26 January 2021 08: 51
    +2
    JBpress (Japan Business Press) I agree with the opinion, but somehow the competent opinion of the business press about missiles .. sounds strange .. but the conclusion is generally strong
    "But there is still one danger, the author sums up: over time, China can improve these missiles and they can pose a threat to both the US Navy and Japan's self-defense forces."
    and maybe create a "Death Star" then, in general, everyone is kapets .. Water is one in general .. probably the purpose of the placement: to start a dialogue about who has a better anti-ship missile laughing
    1. Kalmar
      Kalmar 26 January 2021 09: 10
      0
      Quote: Level 2 Advisor
      and the conclusion is generally strong

      Conclusion as a conclusion: the Chinese (apparently) managed to make a ballistic missile that has sufficient accuracy to destroy small-sized objects at ranges over 1000 km. Those. even non-nuclear missiles could pose a serious threat to Japanese and American military bases in the region.
  5. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 26 January 2021 08: 51
    +3
    According to him, the ability of the DF-21D missiles to hit moving targets was not confirmed, but there were only unfounded statements about this as part of an information war in order to put pressure on the US Navy.

    Well, who is it in reality will check what ... maybe it will ... or maybe it won't ... what anyone's guess ... the Chinese will shoot then and we will find out ... maybe ... if we then survive the nuclear armageddon.
    1. Quadro
      Quadro 26 January 2021 09: 12
      -1
      They have already been shot and hit. The Japs, as always, whine and delirium. There are none of our own.
      1. Dkuznecov
        Dkuznecov 27 January 2021 00: 29
        0
        You shouldn't be so, aka ...
        The Japanese should not be called derogatory,
        the Chinese, Ainu and Koreans will loudly confirm
        and Novikov-Priboy in two volumes of Tsushima will say bluntly,
        it is not so.
        The Americans will add that the enemy was worthy.
        And now the same.
        1. Quadro
          Quadro 27 January 2021 01: 11
          -2
          Quote: DKuznecov
          You shouldn't be so, aka ...
          The Japanese should not be called derogatory,
          the Chinese, Ainu and Koreans will loudly confirm
          and Novikov-Priboy in two volumes of Tsushima will say bluntly,
          it is not so.
          The Americans will add that the enemy was worthy.
          And now the same.

          Those Japanese are not modern Japs. And now is not 1905 and we are not poorly developed like the Chinese of those years and there will be no tsushima. The Americans broke them on the knee during the years of occupation. Almost a century has passed, why are they the same? The Germans have changed, but are they the chosen ones? But it doesn't matter, the essence of my comment was that the Japanese are afraid and jealous, trying to throw on the fan.
  6. Flooding
    Flooding 26 January 2021 08: 51
    +1
    Quote: article
    most experts have doubts that the so-called DF-21D and DF-26B anti-ship ballistic missiles can accurately hit a moving aircraft carrier from a distance of more than a thousand kilometers

    They are perfectly correct in their doubts. A win-win option for an expert opinion.
    Since not a single PCR has been able to confirm this in practice.
  7. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 26 January 2021 08: 57
    +1
    Here you will not check, you will not believe.
  8. Slipper 2
    Slipper 2 26 January 2021 08: 58
    0
    They planted it on the moon, and at home make a glitch from a trough like two fingers ...
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 26 January 2021 09: 04
    +2
    Oriental games ... Paper tigers, cunning monkeys ... If strong, pretend to be weak ...
    Why did the Japanese decide that China is threatening with a cardboard sword? Are they ready to test its sharpness on their own neck? In general, the rhetoric is the same ... "Dagger" is generally a fake, "Zircon" is not, and if there is, it will not get anywhere ... Well, what can I say ... change the training manual ...
  10. APASUS
    APASUS 26 January 2021 09: 04
    +1
    Iran has similar missiles and has demonstrated it more than once, here we are talking about China, what is the doubt?
    1. 3danimal
      3danimal 26 January 2021 23: 39
      0
      Sinking ships moving at 500-1000 km with ballistic missiles? smile
  11. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 26 January 2021 09: 06
    0
    How was Dwight Esenhower chalked on the deck? wassat
  12. DPN
    DPN 26 January 2021 09: 26
    -1
    The Japanese was joking or went crazy, they would definitely not miss an aircraft carrier in the form of JAPAN.
  13. prior
    prior 26 January 2021 09: 28
    -1
    Dear Chinese comrades.
    The Japanese have doubts about your rockets.
    Not good. It would be necessary to dispel the doubts of the Japanese ...
  14. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 26 January 2021 09: 45
    +4
    I just remind you that our ballistic R-27K also at one time (the first half of the 70s) also hit the target ship with a direct hit (it was, however, EMNIP standing). This was done simply - since the AGSN could not be placed on the warhead, they used the GOS with passive guidance to the radiation source. The target was equipped with an emitter ...
    1. 3danimal
      3danimal 26 January 2021 23: 02
      0
      I remember that in the film "Sergeant Bilko" they did even more interesting things: they mined targets in advance and blew them up from the remote control (though sometimes embarrassment happened smile )
  15. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 26 January 2021 10: 10
    -1
    Japanese expert: There are doubts ...
    Without a doubt, one thing - in which case they will get to Japan for sure. Well, the Japanese decided to simply sweeten the Chinese pill for the Americans.
  16. Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich 26 January 2021 10: 31
    -2
    these are you guys, not China of the 30s of the last century, if anything, they will take revenge
  17. Alex 2020
    Alex 2020 26 January 2021 10: 51
    -1
    To solve this issue, the Japs need to drive some of their own / American large UDC / AVM (or similar) to China and see if they will get lost or not. Lie or truth will immediately become clear. winked They will definitely not miss in Japan.
  18. gorenina91
    gorenina91 26 January 2021 11: 17
    -1
    Japanese expert: There are doubts that Chinese missiles can accurately hit an aircraft carrier from a distance of more than 1 km

    - Once upon a time, China (several years ago) destroyed its space satellite with its rocket ... - I do not want to draw any "analogies" in relation to the same "experiments" with an aircraft carrier; especially since I personally have doubts that China then actually hit a satellite with a rocket ... -But an aircraft carrier is a much more invulnerable target in this respect; than, specifically giving a tip "to itself" by any "emitter pulses" (in order to be shot down) by a satellite ... - It is unlikely that an enemy aircraft carrier will "specially highlight" a Chinese missile ... - hit him ...
  19. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 26 January 2021 14: 32
    0
    It's a pity that our project R-27 K was hacked to death. There would be something to rely on and what to develop ...
  20. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 26 January 2021 14: 50
    -1
    Well, yes, well, yes, even the DPRK is able to shoot missiles in the direction of Japan, and here China)))
  21. FrankyStein
    FrankyStein 26 January 2021 21: 26
    0
    Is it possible to push the radar in the br, behind the warhead, which would separate during a dive, "hang" and direct the balvanka?
  22. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 26 January 2021 23: 54
    0
    What are the doubts of the Japanese expert?

    Chinese missiles probably have a combined guidance system, first the missile flies to a given area along a ballistic trajectory, and in the final section, the seeker is switched on and corrects the flight by hitting the enemy ship.

    There is nothing supernatural about it. The only question is what is the real effectiveness of such weapons.

    It is possible to detect ships far from their shores by AWACS aircraft, space satellites, other ships and submarines.

    But will a Chinese ballistic missile be able to break through the air defense of the KUG or AUG or even a single ship like the destroyer "Arlie Burke" armed with long-range anti-aircraft missiles.

    It's one thing to get into a defenseless ship and quite another to hit the enemy ship by breaking through its multi-level air defense before that.

    Otherwise, it will turn out that the Chinese missile costs a lot of money, and it will be easy to shoot down such missiles.

    On the German frigate 32 "Standard" anti-aircraft missiles can be placed, and on the American destroyer even more. And they shoot down satellites in space with these "Standards", not like rockets.
  23. alaarsen
    alaarsen 27 January 2021 10: 43
    0
    Japanese Expert Doubts? wants to test it in practice?