In Ukraine, they gathered to rebuild the 48-year-old tug "Korets" into a patrol ship, a discussion arose

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In Ukraine, they gathered to rebuild the 48-year-old tug "Korets" into a patrol ship, a discussion arose

In Ukraine, a discussion arose about the message about how the country's leadership and military command are going to develop the fleet. Earlier it was reported that the Ukrainian Navy has "two ways of development." One of these ways is the development of the so-called mosquito fleet... Even the commander of the Ukrainian Navy noted that with a sufficient number of well-armed boats, it will be possible to influence large enemy ships in the Azov and Black Seas.

The second concept is related to the construction of new ships, including corvettes and destroyers.



And the discussion of the topic was caused by the fact that the new "path" of development of the Ukrainian navy, as it turns out, does not fit into any of the concepts presented earlier.

The fact is that the command of the Ukrainian Navy announced a plan to rebuild the Project 745 sea tug Korets into a patrol ship. The information is confirmed by representatives of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The reports say that "the sea tug of the 745th project will undergo a deep modernization and rebuilding under a patrol ship at one of the Ukrainian shipyards." What kind of specific company we are talking about has not yet been reported.

On board the tug:



At the same time, it is stated that the converted tug will be equipped with "new weapons and radar equipment." Among other things, it is planned to replace the Utyos-M machine-gun mount with the AK-306 six-barreled artillery mounts of 30 mm caliber.

For reference: the sea tug "Korets" was produced in Yaroslavl 48 years ago - in 1973, as MB-30. In the Ukrainian Navy he received his own name - "Korets".

In 2007, it got into a heavy storm, as a result of which it received numerous damage to the hull. At the same time, which draws special attention to itself, it was put on repair only more than three years after the incident. Before that, he was in a special sump.

While discussing plans to turn the nearly 50-year-old tug into a warship, Ukrainian users do not hide their indignation, wondering where the 5,5% of GDP allocated to defense goes. Ukrainian "patriots" are trying to discuss with them, stating that "today any option for modernizing the fleet should be welcomed." But they cannot explain what modernization consists of.
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    1. +2
      25 January 2021 16: 57
      Rafts and inflatable boats will be cheaper and more efficient. They can also adopt the German experience of 80 years ago - a floating air defense battery with 76mm.
      1. -22
        25 January 2021 17: 17
        Quote: Quadro
        Rafts and inflatable boats will be cheaper and more efficient. They can also adopt the German experience of 80 years ago - a floating air defense battery with 76mm.

        You have to envy this ship, 48 years old for him, and he is on the move, ALIVE !!! Classmates-and what Russia is better than Ukraine-how many OLD steamers (naval slang) in the ranks and how many rotting at the wall ..... and how they are replenished?
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        2. +2
          25 January 2021 18: 10
          Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
          Quote: Quadro
          Rafts and inflatable boats will be cheaper and more efficient. They can also adopt the German experience of 80 years ago - a floating air defense battery with 76mm.

          You have to envy this ship, 48 years old for him, and he is on the move, ALIVE !!! Classmates-and what Russia is better than Ukraine-how many OLD steamers (naval slang) in the ranks and how many rotting at the wall ..... and how they are replenished?

          So what? We also have 40s trial. But the problem is that even if they are modernized, they do not shout about a great change. Yes, and these old men are usually support vessels, not patrol boats
          1. -12
            25 January 2021 19: 19
            Quote: Quadro
            Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
            Quote: Quadro
            Rafts and inflatable boats will be cheaper and more efficient. They can also adopt the German experience of 80 years ago - a floating air defense battery with 76mm.

            You have to envy this ship, 48 years old for him, and he is on the move, ALIVE !!! Classmates-and what Russia is better than Ukraine-how many OLD steamers (naval slang) in the ranks and how many rotting at the wall ..... and how they are replenished?

            So what? We also have 40s trial. But the problem is that even if they are modernized, they do not shout about a great change. Yes, and these old men are usually support vessels, not patrol boats

            Do not equate Russia with Ukraine .... We.RUSSIANS, we are silent about the "peremog" of MARINE SHIPS .... in reply. hi
            1. +1
              26 January 2021 08: 48
              Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
              We are RUSSIANS

              Come on? belay
              1. 0
                26 January 2021 15: 57
                you need to listen to the accent
                1. +1
                  27 January 2021 07: 22
                  Quote: novel xnumx
                  you need to listen to the accent

                  what Surzhik?
                  1. 0
                    27 January 2021 07: 49
                    somehow differently ...
                    1. +1
                      27 January 2021 07: 56
                      Quote: novel xnumx
                      somehow differently ...

                      belay You're an anti-Semite, my friend !!! lol
                      1. 0
                        27 January 2021 07: 57
                        no, there are no questions to the Jews in their historical homeland ... almost no ...
                        1. +1
                          27 January 2021 08: 24
                          Oh yes sho there for the questions, I'm belittling you, every second person is a Jew by his grandmother ...... or a "sailor" .... "sailors", by the way, have become more! Poets decided to be a sailor right now, is it fashionable?
                        2. 0
                          27 January 2021 12: 12
                          easier to fake, this is not a pilot for you
                        3. +2
                          27 January 2021 12: 15
                          The pilots' machine-gun belts are mute and beauty cheated by mother nature! bully
                        4. 0
                          27 January 2021 12: 21
                          aha, and there is no Mauser and they don't drink Baltic tea, and the "la" tattoos are in a certain place
        3. +5
          26 January 2021 08: 18
          Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
          how many OLD steamers (navy slang) are in the ranks

          There are two of the classmates in the Black Sea Fleet, as it was after partition two, so there are two left and both are in the ranks! And besides, as there were tugs, so they remained ... there was no one who even had a thought to convert them into patrolmen laughing ... there are enough patrol ships on the Black Sea Fleet! Ukraine received 120 auxiliary ships and boats under the section, now there are 29 in service and you are pompously interested in Russian ships laughing , I beg of you! hi
          1. 0
            26 January 2021 12: 05
            Quote: Serg65
            no one even had a thought to convert them into patrolmen

            What for? On the Black Sea there is the Don Pskr, the same one that rammed Ukrainian boats. The project of the ship is the same 754P and is part of the border fleet. By the way, he is armed if memory serves the AK-306.
            1. +1
              26 January 2021 12: 18
              Quote: Marconi41
              There is a pskr Don on the Black Sea

              He was originally a frontier guard and was valuable for having an ice belt ... sometimes there is ice on Azov ... nobody converted it, it was born like that !!!
              1. 0
                26 January 2021 15: 35
                Quote: Serg65
                Quote: Marconi41
                There is a pskr Don on the Black Sea

                He was originally a frontier guard and was valuable for having an ice belt ... sometimes there is ice on Azov ... nobody converted it, it was born like that !!!

                It is, but on all, even the civilian MBs of Project 745, there are platforms for installing weapons. Therefore, the Ukrainians will have no problems with militarizing this ship.
                By the way, our border guards have patrol vessels based on the STR-420 seiners, and nothing, they work.
                1. +1
                  27 January 2021 07: 24
                  Quote: Marconi41
                  Therefore, the Ukrainians will have no problems with militarizing this ship.

                  Well, if they can't build a new profile patrol ship, then yes ... this one will do! I agree Yes
      2. +2
        25 January 2021 19: 08
        On the 745 the project was put on AK-230 or AK-306
      3. 0
        25 January 2021 20: 08
        Why do we need the German experience? Forgot "Don't Touch Me"?
      4. 0
        25 January 2021 23: 33
        Quote: Quadro
        ... They can also adopt the German experience of 80 years ago - a floating air defense battery with 76mm.
        History lesson.
        PZB №3 - DEFENDED Sevastopol
        pzb No. 3
        Floating anti-aircraft battery No. 3 "Don't touch me." Commissioned on August 3, 1941 - disabled on June 19, 1942. Anti-aircraft armament - 4x76,2mm 34-K cannon, 3x37mm 70-K cannon, 3x12,7mm DShK machine gun, 1x4x7,62mm M-4 machine gun. Anti-submarine armament 2x130mm B-13 naval guns (removed from the battery in October 1942). Crew of 130 fighters (after removing 130mm guns -111). soldier
        1. +1
          26 January 2021 08: 49
          Quote: cat Rusich
          removed from battery in October 1942

          what filmed by whom?
          1. 0
            26 January 2021 14: 01
            occidentalis - October 1941
        2. -1
          27 January 2021 01: 14
          The two commentators above (about the battery) - are respected people aware that the Germans appeared earlier than the bath sample and that the ukrovermacht should not turn to the Soviet experience?
          1. +1
            27 January 2021 07: 28
            Quote: Quadro
            dear ones in the know that the German ones appeared earlier than the bath sample

            Let's say more, the French floating batteries appeared before !!!
      5. nnm
        0
        26 January 2021 19: 02
        I wonder if the admiral's rank is attached to this storm of the seas? It just would explain a lot ...
    2. +1
      25 January 2021 16: 58
      In Ukraine, gathered to rebuild the 48-year-old tug "Korets" in a patrol ship

      And rename it to "Cucumber", upon completion of the restructuring.
      1. +2
        25 January 2021 17: 25
        Quote: Halpat
        And rename it to "Cucumber", upon completion of the restructuring.
        into aircraft carrier wassat
        1. +2
          25 January 2021 17: 34
          Quote: major147
          Quote: Halpat
          And rename it to "Cucumber", upon completion of the restructuring.
          into aircraft carrier wassat

          Maybe "The Scribe"? mysterious and romantic ...
          1. 0
            25 January 2021 20: 03
            Baihu will sound even more mysterious and romantic (baihu in Chinese Arctic fox).
            1. +1
              25 January 2021 22: 04
              And then the main thing is not to forget and de-communize by opening the Kingstones abeam. laughing
          2. 0
            26 January 2021 12: 37
            Why ,, "? It's better to go straight to .... (a harder synonym)
    3. +2
      25 January 2021 16: 58
      Korets or Kapets, didn't you hear? bully
      1. 0
        26 January 2021 12: 49
        Quote: ermak124.0
        Korets or Kapets, didn't you hear? bully

        patsak wink
    4. +1
      25 January 2021 17: 03
      Will instill fear in the Black Sea Fleet.
      1. -9
        25 January 2021 17: 24
        Quote: Pereira
        Will instill fear in the Black Sea Fleet.

        In the last century, the fleet served ... The Northern Fleet is a strong fleet ... The Pacific Fleet is the same ... The Baltic is the former fleet ... The Black Sea Fleet is not a fleet ... No offense to the Baltic and Black Sea people from the Pacific ... drinks
        1. +1
          26 January 2021 08: 50
          Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
          In the last century, the fleet served

          Which fleet?
    5. -2
      25 January 2021 17: 03
      By the way, we also have at least one tug, converted into a PF FSB ship. Well, or as I now call the maritime border guards.
      1. +3
        25 January 2021 19: 06
        In fact, there are many of them. On the basis of the 745 project, both PSKR and tugs were made.
        1. 0
          26 January 2021 08: 44
          4-5 years ago, in our bay, two coast guard PSKR 745ths were regularly on duty. And now they have a new materiel: 12200 Sable.
      2. +1
        26 January 2021 08: 52
        Quote: 210ox
        we have at least one tug converted into an FSB PV ship.

        It was originally built under the Soviet Union as a border! It was not altered !!!
    6. 0
      25 January 2021 17: 04
      48 is not 50, respect for an ancient nation lol
    7. +2
      25 January 2021 17: 07
      Interestingly, everything says the same thing - everything they do is such a hand ........ but even that makes me happy. I'm wondering when all this fun will end and how to survive.
    8. +1
      25 January 2021 17: 08
      To convert it into a battleship, or to spite us, into a helicopter carrier, and place on it a dozen Chinese quadcopters bought on Aliexpress, and fifty blue postage in the hold! !!! wassat
      1. +1
        25 January 2021 22: 08
        You can't buy Chinese from aliexpress. They are made by the Chinese communists. We'll have to de-communize them right away and sell them for a bottle of vodka. laughing
    9. +3
      25 January 2021 17: 09
      Ukrainian "patriots" are trying to discuss with them, stating that "today any option for modernizing the fleet should be welcomed."
      - I am for such modernization. The weirder, the better it is for us.
      and also bells (early 20th century) for underwater work must be removed from museums and transferred to the Naval Forces of Ukraine
    10. bar
      +6
      25 January 2021 17: 09
      What is there to discuss? Let them rebuild. The main thing is to tighten the toilet tightly, otherwise it will disappear again laughing
      1. +3
        25 January 2021 18: 09
        Quote: bar
        What is there to discuss? Let them rebuild. The main thing is to tighten the toilet tightly, otherwise it will disappear again

        While they will rebuild, it will be 50 years old. Although I am an old Moreman, I have seen everyone, but only "kamikaze" can walk on such old stuff.
        1. -13
          25 January 2021 18: 48
          Old you, I apologize, can you distinguish moreman-scupper from the airlock? And the biting from the bollard and the bale bar ..... where is the hawse ..... You were the filling of the ship, man ...... No offense ... drinks
          1. +3
            25 January 2021 20: 35
            Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
            You were the filling of the ship, man ... No offense ...

            I love it when the licks, having served urgent, and going out to sea for a week feel like "sea" wolves, and then the girls in the tavern are poisoned with stories, what they are hardened Moremans, all the Tohas in shells. " and those who had on these ships have no time for romance. "
            So, it is far for you, an ordinary sailor "boatswain", to moreman.
            1. +2
              26 January 2021 09: 01
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Who saw ships not on candy wrappers

              laughing Well done. Valera !!!! good
          2. +1
            26 January 2021 09: 00
            Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
            Old you, I'm sorry, moreman

            Well, if you answer what a "pendant" is in the Soviet Navy, then I will probably believe that you are a naval wink
        2. +4
          26 January 2021 08: 56
          Quote: tihonmarine
          only "kamikaze" can walk on such old stuff

          what Those. half of the crew of the USSR Navy can be safely brought into the kamikaze?
          Quote: tihonmarine
          I am .... old moreman

          and I don't know words about love laughing
          1. 0
            26 January 2021 10: 24
            Quote: Serg65
            Those. half of the crew of the USSR Navy can be safely brought into the kamikaze?

            Does the Russian Navy have ships born in 1970?
            1. +2
              26 January 2021 12: 00
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Does the Russian Navy have ships born in 1970?

              Valera, you won't believe it ... even in 1915! laughing
              1. 0
                26 January 2021 12: 26
                Quote: Serg65
                Valera, you won't believe it ... even in 1915!

                Not well, in 1915, I will believe, and if I am not mistaken, a ship for lifting submarines. Well, then they built for centuries, although there were strong ships and ships under the Union. In 2000, I worked as a chief at the former PR "Kreutzwald", a converted transport refrigerator, in 2002 it was sold at the DCK under the name "Aino", where he worked for 6-7 years, and he made his maiden voyage in 1968, also under 50 the ship. And now 25 years old and on pins and needles.
                1. +2
                  26 January 2021 13: 07
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  he went on the maiden voyage in 1968

                  In Sevastopol, PD 19 1941 of release, half of BUKs born in 1964-66, VM-34 1953, MMT Indiga 1957, PK-3100 1959, VM-9 1960, PK-12050 1961, SMT Iman 1966, SMT Coyda 1966, MB- 174 1964, MB 173 1965, MB-23 1966, KIL-25 1969!
                  And this is only half of the veterans in the ranks and only in Sevastopol, not counting the rest of the fleets!
                  1. 0
                    26 January 2021 13: 25
                    Quote: Serg65
                    And this is only half of the veterans in the ranks and only in Sevastopol, not counting the rest of the fleets!

                    +
                    One thing I can say well, our grandfathers and fathers could build, and we could too.
          2. +1
            26 January 2021 10: 30
            Quote: Serg65
            and I don't know words about love

            A sailor's love, it's New Year's at sea.
    11. Cat
      +3
      25 January 2021 17: 12
      It would be necessary to rummage around in the Lenkuzni sedimentation tanks - there are still river trams that took tourists from Rechvokzal to Khitropark. Well these are ready-made BDK fellow
    12. +3
      25 January 2021 17: 13
      let them do it, at least a penny for the workers, this one certainly won't drown in the parade
      1. Cat
        +1
        25 January 2021 19: 09
        this one will certainly not drown in the parade

    13. +5
      25 January 2021 17: 15
      I wonder how he will patrol at 13 nodes? Until he swims, everyone will disperse
      1. +11
        25 January 2021 18: 51
        So that's the calculation.
        And then suddenly it will be in time. laughing
        1. +1
          26 January 2021 07: 28
          Quote: kit88
          So that's the calculation.
          And then suddenly it will be in time. laughing

          So? :)
    14. +4
      25 January 2021 17: 21
      Usually tugs have fairly solid hulls
      I remember that Cyclone, which starred in the Soviet film Take Care of Women, is a Land Lease tug, which, moreover, came from overseas part of the distance in tow, part under its own power.
      1. 0
        25 January 2021 18: 16
        Quote: Avior
        Usually tugs have fairly solid hulls

        As a person grows old, so iron also grows old, and there are no strong bodies. I had to go on a steamboat of the "Second Five-Year Plan" type, but he was about 40 years old, and the thickness of the metal was 18 mm. I don't mind, everything can be replaced, just how much money you need to invest.
        1. +1
          25 January 2021 19: 05
          I do not know in what particular state it is, but that the thickness of the metal there is rather big, this is for sure, the project is intended for operations in a difficult ice situation, they were used to make PSKR.
          Repair is of course required.
          1. +1
            25 January 2021 21: 01
            Quote: Avior
            but that the thickness of the metal there is rather big, this is for sure, the project is intended for operations in severe ice conditions, they were used to make PSKR.
            Repair is of course required.

            This is a Yaroslavl building, project 745 MB, not even 745 MBS, well, not 745 P.
            Case 12 mm. I worked for MBS "Irresistible". Very capricious diesel engines, we installed Swedish ones in 5 years. Diesel is electric propulsion, now there is no such system (the old Soviet one), which means that diesel engines, generators, a propeller motor and an electric control system must be changed to imported ones. It's all big money.
            Change the navigation equipment too. And everything else, starting from the pump and any electric motor, and even installing weapons. Yes, it is easier to build a new one, you have the same shipyard Nikalaev and Kherson, were the most powerful in the Union.
            Well, you don't have to be a patriot when they want to make a new watchdog out of "needles".
            How impossible it is to make a Gelendvagen 1973 from a 2020 Mers.
            1. +3
              25 January 2021 21: 17
              How it is impossible to make "Gelendvagen 1973" from "Mers" of 2020

              Hmm. In this case, just anything can happen



              https://www.kharkovforum.com/showthread.php?t=829
              smile
              I will not argue about the tug. maybe it will be too expensive, I have not seen the estimate.
              But in itself, the fact that a tug to a patrol ship in this case is not such a curiosity, the projects are similar.
              hi
              1. +1
                25 January 2021 22: 18
                Quote: Avior
                But in itself, the fact that a tug to a patrol ship in this case is not such a curiosity, the projects are similar.

                Identical, only the weapons are not installed. I took such a civilian language in Yaroslavl, late 70s. They have all been on pins and needles for a long time. Do not live so much judgment.
                1. +2
                  25 January 2021 22: 23
                  Several at work on the Black Sea
                  1. 0
                    26 January 2021 10: 01
                    Quote: Avior
                    Several at work on the Black Sea

                    Everything can be in Ukraine.
                2. +1
                  26 January 2021 09: 34
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  I took

                  request recourse
            2. +3
              26 January 2021 09: 33
              Quote: tihonmarine
              MBS "Irresistible"

              Valera, this is a different project!
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Very capricious diesel engines, after 5 years we installed Swedish

              laughing good You haven't confused Sweden with Switzerland? In the 1454s, the Polish Sulzera stood for life, and Scania ship diesel engines only in 2005 began to make and then low-power .... Valera is more careful with the sources! Don't fantasize on your own !!
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Diesel electric movement, now there is no such system (old Soviet)

              Poolskaya !!! lol
              1. 0
                26 January 2021 10: 12
                Quote: Serg65
                Valera, this is a different project!

                Another project is possible. We had "Irresistible" in Tallinn and "Kastytis" in Klaipeda in the Western Basin. Here "Kastytis" was one of the first to change a diesel engine, maybe Swiss ones, and "Irresistible" was transferred to Kaliningrad.
                1. +2
                  26 January 2021 12: 15
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  Attention!

                  Once again, take a closer look at the information, discard the gag! wink
            3. 0
              27 January 2021 15: 47
              You can assemble a Gelik from a 1973 Merc, but a 1973 Meren is not going to come out of a Helic laughing
        2. +2
          26 January 2021 09: 04
          Quote: tihonmarine
          I had to go on a steamboat of the "Second Five-Year Plan" type

          belay Have you also caught the Second Five-Year Plan? Nuka, nuka tell me !!!!
          1. -1
            26 January 2021 10: 20
            Quote: Serg65
            Have you also caught the Second Five-Year Plan? Nuka, nuka tell me !!!!

            At the beginning of his labor activity, in Odessa in the winter of 1967, he sat as a sailor on watch, before cutting him into needles.
            1. +2
              26 January 2021 12: 13
              Quote: tihonmarine
              At the beginning of his labor activity, in Odessa in the winter of 1967, he sat as a sailor on watch, before cutting him into needles

              laughing Brother, I can't keep up with you ... I remember from your words at the same time you served as a chest of drawers on Sverdlov, and then immediately as a marine ... good
      2. +2
        25 January 2021 18: 50
        ST (small tug) - building number of the building is not exactly known - 540 or 895, project 327 (resp. 327-e or -d, USA);

        Class: ST Army Tug
        Launched: 1944
        Builder: Continental Shipbuilding, Brooklyn, NY, alternatively: JK Welding, Brooklyn, NY, or Port Houston IW, Houston, TX.
        Length: 86 ft.
        Width: 24 ft.
        Draft: 11 feet
        Displacement: 141,3 tons
        Engine: diesel 650 hp, “Clark”

        To Gibraltar, across the Atlantic Ocean, he was in tow with the "General Chernyakhovsky", and from Gibraltar to Odessa - under his own power.
        The legendary tugboat worked in the Odessa port until the end of the 80s.
      3. +2
        26 January 2021 09: 58
        Quote: Avior
        this is a land lease tug

        In Sevastopol, MB-33 and MB-34 of the American-built "Large US Army tug LT-828" 46th year of release .... survived until the 89th year
      4. -1
        27 January 2021 04: 44
        Quote: Avior
        Usually tugs have fairly solid hulls

        Usually, no one in their right mind (or perhaps in case of an extremely urgent need) undertakes to convert the tug into combat units.

        Ukram, the USSR also got the ships, and, most importantly, the SHIPYARD ...

        Where are they ? Where is everyone? Where is Ukraine, which has lost itself?

        And so yes ... "Rational decision", the tug, which is under-half, into a patrolman to convert Yes

        Next in line, motorized rafts?
    15. +2
      25 January 2021 17: 29
      One question ..... but in general there are no questions, like the fleet.
      1. +3
        25 January 2021 17: 36
        The main thing is the budget is regularly mastered ... Yes
        1. +1
          25 January 2021 17: 40
          For a pretty penny, for a hryvnia, the admiral will get a decent pension.
          So, the big uncles have already mastered the most delicious / pocketed, where else can the poor admirals get away with it.
          1. +1
            25 January 2021 18: 52
            So they are looking for options for "modernization" ...
      2. 0
        25 January 2021 21: 04
        Quote: rocket757
        One question ..... but in general there are no questions, like the fleet.

        The entire fleet can only be sent to India on pins and needles, if they reach the cutting pier or the raid (they no longer go under their own power).
        1. 0
          25 January 2021 21: 21
          Cut on the spot and smelt ... until all the metallurgical plants were bombed.
          1. 0
            25 January 2021 22: 20
            Quote: rocket757
            Cut in place and remelt.

            So they already have nowhere to cut, not only to build.
    16. +1
      25 January 2021 17: 32
      At the same time, it is stated that the converted tug will be equipped with "new weapons and radar equipment." No problem with toilets? Glue, fix with bolts, weld the frame so as not to be stolen. Yes
    17. +3
      25 January 2021 17: 35
      But they cannot explain what modernization consists of.


      How in what? , in the cut of the allocated funds ...
      1. +1
        25 January 2021 17: 41
        Say a word for the poor tug .... But no, the admirals need it more!
        1. 0
          25 January 2021 18: 20
          Quote: rocket757
          Say a word for the poor tug.

          It is a pity, but even the Indians do not take them for "needles".
        2. +2
          25 January 2021 18: 55
          Quote: rocket757
          Say a word for the poor tug .... But no, the admirals need it more!


          The fact of the matter is that there are more of them than the remaining floating facilities ...
    18. +4
      25 January 2021 19: 02
      Sea tugs of project 745 are distinguished by a strong hull for operations in severe ice conditions, a very successful project, they were produced and are being produced in the form of a sea tug and in the form of a border patrol ship (pr745p).
      So it's not surprising that the patrol ship is being redesigned, this is provided for by the project.
      1. 0
        27 January 2021 04: 52
        Quote: Avior
        So it's not surprising that the patrol ship is being redesigned, this is provided for by the project.

        You personally are not surprised by the fact that Ukraine, which had (and some "especially Ukrainian patriots" claim that it still has the most powerful shipbuilding wassat ) - is puffing up on re-equipment of an ancient tug, and not building a specialized ship from scratch that meets modern requirements?
    19. 0
      25 January 2021 22: 13
      It will be like with the flagship of the Ukrainian Navy Hetman Sagaidachny, after repairs at the Lenin Kuznaya (owned by Poroshenko), it turned out that there were more problems, and the money was gone
    20. 0
      26 January 2021 03: 12
      To the space battleship Korets
    21. 0
      26 January 2021 07: 00
      Well, the battleship appeared in Ukraine. Everyone is afraid !!! laughing
    22. +2
      26 January 2021 07: 16
      some old people go into battle, it's straightforward laughing
    23. +2
      26 January 2021 08: 00
      The Ukrainian fleet is like the Somali pirate fleet!

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