The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine has published a list of military orders from NATO countries for 2021

As part of the state defense order, the Ukrainian Department of Military-Technical Policy, Arms and Military Equipment Development, bypassing intermediaries, placed orders for the Armed Forces of Ukraine from direct manufacturers, contacting the NATO Support and Supply Agency. The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine has published a list of military orders for 2021 placed in NATO.

This was reported by the Ukrainian edition "ArmyINFORM".

The list lists 37 Lithuanian-made EDM4S-UA UAV countermeasures, 12 SL-520REF systems for small arms weapons, 90 American Barrett sniper rifles, two underwater vehicles (presumably for combat swimmers), 150 sets of various parachute systems, the MFTR-2100/39 radar system made in Denmark, two demining vehicles with attachments BOZENA-4 and BOZENA-5 from Slovakia.

For all ordered products, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine has already sent an advance payment. Information on the timing of the delivery of products will come from the NATO agency shortly.

In addition, a contract was signed with a Turkish company for the supply of armor-piercing incendiary and blank ammunition for sniper rifles of 12,7 mm caliber.

Almost all of the above products were supplied to the Armed Forces of Ukraine before. The only exceptions are BOZENA demining machines made in Slovakia.

New purchases are a necessity for Ukraine in the sense that it has signed an agreement on cooperation with NATO countries in the military-technical sphere. For the execution of this agreement, it is necessary to place orders primarily in the NATO military-industrial environment.

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[lucul]

The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine has published a list of military orders from NATO countries for 2021

A bad dancer knows what gets in the way)))
And these, their defeats, everything is attributed to outdated weapons, and not to their worthlessness.

[Rose capone]

Some kind of primitive. Even one percent is not listed here. Ukrainians are not easy enough to publish all their plans in the public domain.
Some factories for the production of Shock UAVs, together with Israel and, separately, with the Turks and Azerbaijan, which are worth it.
And the program of joint production of missiles with Belarus, too, has not been canceled. Etc.

[Thrifty]

Rosa Capone - they have a bunch of plans, there are draft contracts, there is only no finance for the implementation of at least half of the plans, and the experts have left the school en masse, there are no stupid promises to go back only because of promises! Therefore, they raised taxes, and a new tranche is knocked out in order to make advances on many defense programs!

[nsm1]

Quote: Thrifty

specialists left Vuk-Ryu en masse

And where did they go?

[Thrifty]

nsm1-went to Turkey, China, even Russia, India. .. to at least 30 countries of the world, where they are in demand!

[Fitter65]

Quote: nsm1

In Russia, somehow I have not met ...

To meet someone in Russia, you must at least visit Russia.

[nsm1]

So I live in Siberia.
I have never left and I do not intend to.
Or is it no longer Russia?
PS: Where did it come from?

[Fitter65]

Quote: nsm1

: Where did it come from?

Not you, but you. like haven’t drunk on broodershaft yet. If you are so interested, then let's start with the fact that, also from Siberia, Western in the Novosibirsk region. And for the last 32 years I have been living in the Far East in the City of Youth, in the city of aircraft and shipbuilders. Where, by the way, even before the Maidan, it was EASY to meet specialists from the city of Nikolaev, since there were not enough of our own, and even now there is not enough ... Living in Siberia does not mean seeing a lot, it is big, in some villages even a simple telephone has not yet been installed, and you are already there trying to meet aircraft manufacturers from Ukraine. What should they do there? But in Novosibirsk there is a chance, given that at one time NAPO produced Antonov's planes, and the Antonov Design Bureau itself left factory # 153 ...

[g1v2]

You have not met them for a simple reason. A Ukrainian, moving to Russia, becomes a Russian. The same as everyone around. Most often, you won't even understand by speaking. If at the beginning of the conflict there were still some who emphasized their otherness and demanded something, then soon it stopped. Among my subordinates there are also migrants from Donbass and from other regions of the Square. If you do not know, you will never understand where they are from. For example, a guy from Volyn who works in St. Petersburg is practically no different from people from Pskov or guys from Donbass. The only acquaintances from Square who stand out somehow are the former miners from the LPR. But again, if you do not listen carefully, then there is no difference.
The population of the Kiev principality is the same Russians as on this side of the border. So that it would not seem to the Nazis on both sides. But this is for now. If a couple of generations pass, then they will cease to be Russians. This is exactly what the separatist elites of the Independent are trying to achieve.

[nsm1]

I agree.
But, when applying for a job, you need to show passport.
And then there are permits for foreign citizens, etc.
PS: I'm a shift worker, because who knows where and how exactly.
This affects, on a lot, tickets, etc.

[g1v2]

The passport is shown in the personnel department. He also deals with permissions and so on. Plus, for residents of Donbass and Ukraine, there is a simplified procedure for obtaining citizenship. Those who arrived in 14-15 years, as a rule, have long been citizens of the Russian Federation. Most of them already have mortgaged apartments and families here. One friend from Avdeevka even opened a store. But I seem to have already closed it - it is difficult to compete with little things with networks.

[nsm1]

Above answered.
And the personnel department does not hide anything.
And in the passport there is a place of birth, so people recognize, for example, Tatars or Bashkirs.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: nsm1

And in the passport there is a place of birth, so people recognize, for example, Tatars or Bashkirs.

Russian born in Kazan or Ufa ...
Place of birth affects citizenship, but not nationality. There were cases when a child was born on a flying plane ... what is their nationality?

[Fitter65]

Quote: cat Rusich

There were cases when a child was born on a flying plane ... what is their nationality?

Air Although the country of birth indicates the country of which the airline belongs. Although Aeroflot is a Russian airline, but the aircraft are registered not in Russia ...

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Fitter65

Quote: cat Rusich

There were cases when a child was born on a flying plane ... what is their nationality?

Air Although the country of birth indicates the country of which the airline belongs. ...

United Airlines airline of the united states - flies to Moscow and St. Petersburg ... a child born on board a United Airlines aircraft in the airspace of Russia - what citizenship? ...
Russia or the USA ...

[Fitter65]

Quote: cat Rusich

a child born on board a United Airlines aircraft in the airspace of Russia - what citizenship?.

Believe it or not, he may even be a citizen of Honduras, like his parents. But they will write down that he was born in the United States since the Airline is American. and the aircraft has extraterritoriality status in the airspace of any country. During my youth, when I served in the SGV, many of the wives of our military gave birth in the Szczecin maternity hospital (the territory of Poland, then the NDP) in the column the citizenship of the children was the USSR, by the citizenship of the parents, the place of birth of Szczecin, the NDP. Therefore, one should not confuse the concept, citizenship and place (country) of birth. If you are a citizen of Russia and were born in Russia, then your country and citizenship will match. Problems arise in families where the spouses are citizens of different countries, but for this there are international treaties. But this, I think so, is for an article called

The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine has published a list of military orders from NATO countries for 2021

has the same relation - as the migrations of the Adélie penguins, to the increase in the number of reindeer.

[cat Rusich]

I just remembered another case about the citizenship of Alexander Karageorgivich (son of the King of Yugoslavia Peter II Karageorgivich), who was born in 2 in Britain, but the house in which he was born, on his birthday for one day was declared the territory of Yugoslavia (by order of W. Churchill) - the heir born on the territory of Yugoslavia had the right to the throne.

Adelie Penguins

Reindeer.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

But, when applying for a job, you need to show your passport ... verbally. this is enough for gaster a wolf ticket, and for a legal patchport specialist it is necessary ... with my kent the story turned out to be funny. Until the age of 14 he worked as a welder in Yakutia as a shift worker. normal earnings ... after the 14th I received a passport of the Russian Federation, and here is the most joke, and laughter and sin, he has to fly to the watch, and then the occasion happened in the passport, instead of his last name Sadikov he was called Sadykov ... neither passport nor the other , .... damn it, passport officers, but there, according to the photograph, Andryukha did not look like his Ryazan physonomy ... so the passport filters out the gaster from real specialists ...

[Thrifty]

nsm1 - many of them here in distant regions, such as our Far East, behave quietly, for the time being!

[nsm1]

Fifth column

[orionvitt]

Quote: Rosa Capone

Ukrainians are not so easy to put all their plans publicly

Rzhunimagu. Are you serious? All Ukrainian politics is transparent as crystal. That is to say, political incontinence, all plans and conversations, are immediately announced and flowed into the network. Moreover, both Ukrainian politics and Ukrainian politicians are distinguished by an extreme degree of inadequacy. In addition, all activities in the field of public procurement in Ukraine are not geared towards strengthening some kind of abstract "defense capability", but exclusively for cutting funds. This is the truth of life, against which you cannot argue. Especially smiled "complexes of countering UAV EDM4S-UA of Lithuanian production". Probably a worthwhile thing, you have to take it. After all, everyone has long known that Lithuania is the world's most famous manufacturer of high-tech weapons.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: orionvitt

Especially smiled "complexes of countering UAV EDM4S-UA of Lithuanian production". Probably a worthwhile thing, we must take it. After all, everyone has long known that Lithuania is the world's most famous manufacturer of high-tech weapons.

Inspired "The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine has published a list of military orders from NATO countries for 2021" ----
Suede jacket seven pieces, Japanese tape recorder five pieces, silver cigarette case fourteen pieces ...

[Botanologist]

Some factories for the production of Shock UAVs, together with Israel and, separately, with the Turks and Azerbaijan, which are worth it.

I missed something. Are the factories already up and running?

[210ox]

But somehow he did not stop and. Largely. Take the same Zorya-Mashproekt. Well, pensioners were fired there, but the plant is working and producing products. The same applies to Motor Sich. You just need to really look at things. People who categorically do not like the local order left for us in Russia. Those who have nowhere to go are left, they are getting out as best they can.

[military_cat]

Quote: lucul

And these, their defeats, everything is attributed to outdated weapons, and not to their worthlessness.

This switch to NATO weapons is being made with the obvious goal of rapprochement with NATO.

[Insurgent]

""NATO" - THEM", this is all clear ... But what can WE, DNR and LNR give YOU?

Egor Kholmogorov, a publicist and analyst, believes that we can help suppress anti-government protests in your country ...
Basically, he is right ... We are so "grafted" from the Maidans that ...

[sniperino]

Quote: lucul

their defeats are blamed on outdated weapons, and not on their worthlessness.

Well, there was not enough blank cartridges for snipers to train, otherwise they would have shot everyone and there was already a peremog, obviously.

[Victor_B]

Roll your lip ...
Although ... Biden promised not to offend.

[Fedor Sokolov]

This list is missing runner boots and Vaseline.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Fedor Sokolov

This list is missing runner boots and Vaseline.

Soap and hemp rope.

[VORON538]

Self-assembled tablecloths!
They love freebies so much !!!

[Reviews]

Quote: VORON538

Self-assembled tablecloths!
They love freebies so much !!!

[Reviews]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Quote: Fedor Sokolov

This list is missing runner boots and Vaseline.

Soap and hemp rope.

... and a manual included in the delivery.

[Thrifty]

Financing of purchases for the Armed Forces is carried out on funds collected by prostitutes, at the "work" in the European Union

[Ros 56]

Have you ever thought that apart from their prostitutes, they still earn this considerable money in our country, that's where the oxygen should be cut off? I saw such brothers in the grave.

[Thrifty]

Ros56, and what did I call them "brothers"? Terpily their name! !!

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Ros 56

Have you ever thought that apart from their prostitutes, they still earn this considerable money in our country, this is where the oxygen needs to be cut off

If now we send all the outlying guest workers from our markets and construction sites back to Nenka (and explain to everyone, for what exactly they send him home in a cattle car) - the next Maidan is guaranteed. A million guest workers who have been left without work and livelihoods, plus their families - they will gnaw poor Zelensky instead of bacon with little blackies ...

[Ros 56]

Maybe it's for the best, just let the Natsiks finish off the heaps. After all, the most important thing is that all this will definitely happen, regardless of our or their wishes.
The striped ones will not let us live in peace and will certainly incite these Bandera and other lackeys against Russia and we will have to fight back so that then there is no one to stir it up again.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Ros 56

let the naziks finish off the heap

I always say that now there is nothing to talk with non-handshakeers about. Dialogue will be possible only when they themselves hang their Bandera on the lanterns and their frozen carcasses knock against each other so that the Kremlin will hear. Then we'll be brothers again ...

[kit88]

Let them order a wooden mac. According to the NATO model, it is obligatory.

[Sergey_G_M]

No one will tell you why you need blank ammunition for 12,7 sniper rifles?

[Holgerton]

For combat simulation systems of the LASERTAG type (mounted in particular), they have become quite widespread in recent years.
Blank cartridges are needed to give realism so that the weapon emits a shot sound, and does not just turn on / off the laser module.

[Reviews]

ЕDM4S-UА Lithuanian production

And they say that in the Baltics, all production has died ...

blank ammunition for 12,7 mm sniper rifles.

Why does a sniper need a blank cartridge?

[Holgerton]

For combat simulation systems of the LASERTAG type (mounted in particular), they have become quite widespread in recent years.
Blank cartridges are needed to give realism so that the weapon emits a shot sound, and does not just turn on / off the laser module.

[Reviews]

Quote: Holgerton

For combat simulation systems of the LASERTAG type (mounted in particular), they have become quite widespread in recent years.
Blank cartridges are needed to give realism so that the weapon emits a shot sound, and does not just turn on / off the laser module.

Well, so, a sniper with a 12,7mm is no longer a conscript-recruit - why does he need this imitation? It would be okay to have a "Marksman" SVD, but 12,7 are not fighting in the infantry lines. Is not it so?

[Holgerton]

I also say, in combat simulation systems like LASERTAG. For example, in exercises, they have it quite common.
There are sets of imitation equipment for tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, anti-tank systems, machine guns, and for sniper rifles as well.

[Ros 56]

In both, the beaten unbeaten is lucky, in the sense of a beggar-rogue, they provide work and money to rich NATO members. I wonder how people live.

[Reviews]

Quote: Ros 56

In both, the beaten unbeaten is lucky, in the sense of a beggar-rogue, they provide work and money to rich NATO members. I wonder how people live.

Apparently, because most of the listed equipment does not exist in domestic form, but they are needed "already yesterday".
Although, about the SL-520PEF they write that this is just a definition of the muzzle velocity of a bullet. This is something in Ukraine that should definitely be available, and this is not a very necessary device, PMSM.

[Ros 56]

They successfully pumped almost everything that remained there after the USSR.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Ros 56

I wonder how people live.

Bandera will come, he will bring lard.

[rotmistr60]

For the execution of this agreement, it is necessary to place orders primarily in the NATO military-industrial environment.

That is why let your military-industrial complex survive as best it can, the main thing is to satisfy NATO. For this and money is not a pity, tk. You can also raise utility tariffs, which the IMF will be happy with, introduce some kind of additional tax, scrape the bottom of the citizens. And with pride to sing: "I have not died yet ..."

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rotmistr60

That is why let your military-industrial complex survive as best it can, the main thing is to satisfy NATO.

Eternal sycophancy, and back deflection in the region of the 4th vertebra.

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

Quote: rotmistr60

For the execution of this agreement, it is necessary to place orders primarily in the NATO military-industrial environment.

That is why let your military-industrial complex survive as best it can, the main thing is to satisfy NATO. For this and money is not a pity, tk. You can also raise utility tariffs, which the IMF will be happy with, introduce some kind of additional tax, scrape the bottom of the citizens. And with pride to sing: "I have not died yet ..."

Have the housing and communal services tariffs been raised in Russia, to the delight of the IMF? Gasoline has risen in price and gas .... payments for electricity are not yet available, and then the tariff, I believe, has increased ..... The money will go to the needs of the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation, what do you think?

[Rose capone]

How good. The Taganrog Metallurgical Combine needs large shipments of scrap metal.

[tihonmarine]

For the execution of this agreement, it is necessary to place orders primarily in the NATO military-industrial environment.

The rich have their own habits. Let them buy.

[faiver]

BOZENA, mine clearance vehicle - armored communal bobcat

[Tagan]

Quote: Rosa Capone

How good. The Taganrog Metallurgical Combine needs large shipments of scrap metal.

Did you mean TAGMET? There probably no one will be surprised at this kind of scrap metal. They will process such a pipe calmly)))

[Dmitry Makarov]

As a result: all Western weapons will be confiscated by the People's Militia of the DPR.

[rocket757]

For the army, this is nothing .... for bandit attacks, and then just barely enough.

[Vadim237]

"90 American Barrett Sniper Rifles" More likely chambered for 12.7 mm - enough so many regiments to equip more than serious rifles in skilled hands.

[rocket757]

Two regiments so what?
Who is with them a trench war, when snipers can show themselves, is going to conduct?

[Reviews]

I have never been a military man, but:

The task of the military sniper is to defeat the command staff, observers, signalmen, motorcyclists, servicemen from the gun, mortar or machine-gun crews, observation, optical and radar devices, control systems of enemy armored vehicles, the destruction of camouflaged, emerging for a short time single targets

All this is not just a trench warfare. But the war in Donbass is now precisely positional, not maneuverable.

[rocket757]

There are no questions about Donbass. For them, this is a real threat ... but, this is an internal conflict, until it was recognized as different, NOBODY.
On the other hand, with the extreme, no one is going to fight, and they themselves will not be able to do otherwise.
Sniper, this is a small-town event, otherwise it is pointless to use them ... at least nowhere has this been observed, not described.

[Reviews]

Quote: rocket757

There are no questions about Donbass. For them, this is a real threat ... but, this is an internal conflict

Well, so, you don't think that they bought it against Russia? :)

[Ros 56]

Banderlog, which will bypass everyone here, you at least howl on your avatar or attach a bitten apple. At least we will know the heroes.

[sniperino]

In my opinion, they need to be warned so that the forced lads scatter, but somehow they must somehow compel the world to end this bloody farce.

[NF68]

They forgot to order normal human brains, as always.

[Lord of the Sith]

A Lithuanian-made UAV is not even funny)))

What can the Baltofuehrer be saying that our air defense cannot shoot down?)))

[Avior]

anti-UAV complexes

conversely

[APASUS]

A rather strange list, it seems to me that the ultimate goal of the reorganization is not visible. Just like in India, just a little bit

[Avior]

anti-drone gun EDM4S-UA manufactured by NT-Servise.