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The ship "Fortuna" resumed work on the construction of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline

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The next reports come from the water area of ​​the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline. The reports indicate that the pipe-laying vessel Fortuna has resumed work on the construction of a gas pipeline in Danish Baltic waters. Representatives of the company carrying out the work cycle noted that such work "is being carried out in full accordance with all the received approvals."


Earlier it became known that "Fortuna" came under another batch of US sanctions. Also, two companies participating in the project decided to urgently abandon the project for fear of facing the same American sanctions.

It got to the point that during a meeting between the head of Gazprom Alexei Miller and President Vladimir Putin, the head of state instructed to consider the possibility of a complete cessation of the implementation of the SP-2 project. It was noted that construction could be stopped completely due to the changing policy of European partners, who themselves cannot decide on an unequivocal answer whether they need the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline or not.

In view of the fact that Fortuna has resumed work, it can be assumed that the European partners have assured the Russian side that they are interested in the implementation of the project. At the same time, this position is not officially announced at the moment.

It should be reminded that earlier it was reported about plans to complete the construction of "SP-2" this summer.
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  1. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 25 January 2021 06: 13
    +9
    it can be assumed that the European partners have assured the Russian side that they are interested in the implementation of the project. At the same time, this position is not officially announced at the moment.

    Yes, and no voice acting
    The main thing is that the case is moving forward
    And words, they are words
    Today they say one thing, tomorrow another
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 25 January 2021 06: 18
      +16
      Until the end of everything is left
      A couple of minutes,
      And me (what a pity!)
      Apparently they won't kill

      Don't hang out on the yard
      Don't go to the bottom
      Fortune! lottery!
      Fortune! lottery!
      In life and in the movies,
      In life and in the movies,
      In life and in cinema and cinema ...
      In life, like in the movies?
      Kind of like in a movie
      But not like in the movies!
      1. Far B
        Far B 25 January 2021 06: 33
        +14
        Let's start the 154th act of the Marlezon Ballet!
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 25 January 2021 09: 41
          -2
          "AnnaVanna, our squad wants to see piglets.
          we will not offend them, we will stroke them and ... "
          dancing around SP2: not to work - to get dirty, but to wait for dividends is already courage for Europe.
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 25 January 2021 13: 26
            +6
            "Fortune" - good luck, less storms and more good weather! yes For those who work - good health and good mood! good hi NORMAL fans - happy messages and positive emotions! yes drinks
            To UN-wishers and enemies - a big ... big fig in the nose! fool negative lol
            And the SP-2 will be completed !!!
            1. antivirus
              antivirus 25 January 2021 14: 38
              -5
              And the SP-2 will be completed !!!

              --he only ----- PIPE. RELATIONSHIP (?) WITH GERMANY AND THE EU IS BAD. Is the main thing.
              Gazprom tried to carry out an asset exchange 15 years ago - they were killed.
              offered only the absorption of "our everything".
              Here's how to twist and rise to the "equal dialogue"?
              1. Vladimir Mashkov
                Vladimir Mashkov 25 January 2021 15: 23
                +5
                Quote: antivirus
                RELATIONSHIP (?) WITH GERMANY AND THE EU IS BAD. This is the main thing.

                Yes, the bad ones. There were and will be. But not so bad as not to accept and distribute inexpensive gas through the constructed gas pipeline. IN any the country along with the stupid majority has reasonable people. yes yes
                1. antivirus
                  antivirus 25 January 2021 17: 05
                  -3
                  the situation around SP2 is small.
                  I'm trying (and into the void) to say about the level of relations between the states, state apparatus and people-nations.
                  point of view wins - pay and fuck off.
              2. NKT
                NKT 25 January 2021 21: 33
                +1
                Gazprom swapped assets with Wintershall Dea, for example.
                1. antivirus
                  antivirus 25 January 2021 22: 10
                  -2
                  a trifle - boarded 15 years ago - showed our level - standing in the dressing room. when called, you will answer questions.
                  and the opinion on the outskirts was not taken into account. they did it in their own way.
                  GEOPOLITICAL INFLUENCE IS NOT OFFSHORE INFLUENCES.
            2. Looking for
              Looking for 26 January 2021 18: 58
              +1
              Nord Stream 2-be
      2. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb 25 January 2021 06: 35
        -3
        They are building ... They are not building. They are building again. We would have taken and completed these unfortunate 120 km of the pipeline.

        And why are we so afraid of sanctions?
        What, you can't nationalize McDonald's and Pepsico factories in return?
        1. Maki maki
          Maki maki 25 January 2021 06: 47
          +46
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          And why are we so afraid of sanctions?
          What, you can't nationalize McDonald's and Pepsico factories in return?

          Fuck him, McDonald's. Oil and gas production needs to be nationalized.
          1. bad
            bad 25 January 2021 07: 02
            +34
            Quote: Maki Maki
            Oil and gas production needs to be nationalized

            And not only. You need to start with the government and the Central Bank
            1. Kart
              Kart 26 January 2021 11: 30
              +1
              You try your best. Otherwise, the United States cannot cope.
          2. for
            for 25 January 2021 07: 14
            -7
            Quote: Maki Maki
            Oil and gas production needs to be nationalized.

            She is already a national treasure, what kind of people they are and how many of them.
            1. Alexander 3
              Alexander 3 25 January 2021 08: 39
              -1
              The national property exists separately from the people. The people are those who elect the government? And the people will have an increase after the pipeline is launched?
              1. Rubi0
                Rubi0 25 January 2021 10: 05
                -2
                The people are those who can go and buy shares on the Moscow Exchange and receive dividends from the shares of companies, and you are not a people but drones hanging on the neck of the state, it gave you all the tools to take care of yourself
              2. ccsr
                ccsr 25 January 2021 13: 23
                +8
                Quote: Alexander 3
                Will the people have an increase in their pension after the pipeline is launched?

                And when the people shouted "Down with the CPSU and long live capitalism!" what was he hoping for? Who promised him social justice - Yeltsin, Gaidar, Chubais, or the "seven bankers" guaranteed that the people would get something? I have not heard such promises, but what we heard from them was a blatant lie.
                Our people have shown themselves to be a fool, and for thirty years they have been whining that they have been offended, they dreamed of not such capitalism. Since when did capitalism promise everyone prosperity - I don't remember that the classics of Marxism told us about it in their works.
                We live in a bad time, which may then seem like paradise if we have what happened in Ukraine. Therefore, you have to choose - either the revolution and the Maidan, or moderate your claims, and try to make the people believe in your slogans so that your candidate will pass in the next elections.
                Refresh your memory for a start:
                1. for
                  for 25 January 2021 14: 00
                  -4
                  Quote: ccsr
                  And when the people shouted "Down with the CPSU and long live capitalism!

                  As always, the people are Moscow. Something I have not heard that yelling or at work was like millions.
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr 25 January 2021 14: 07
                    -3
                    Quote: for
                    As always, the people are Moscow.

                    You are mistaken, it was not only in Moscow. Refresh your memories of 1990:
                    https://ed-glezin.livejournal.com/1187984.html
          3. antivirus
            antivirus 25 January 2021 09: 46
            -2
            better than bankers - and in Switzerland itself. Our videoconferencing will support
        2. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 25 January 2021 06: 51
          0
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          And why are we so afraid of sanctions?

          Ours are just not afraid.
          Gay European firms are afraid.
          They are leaving the project.
          Also, two companies participating in the project decided to urgently abandon the project for fear of facing the same American sanctions.
        3. Aleksandr21
          Aleksandr21 25 January 2021 07: 04
          +5
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          They are building ... They are not building. They are building again. We would have taken and completed these unfortunate 120 km of the pipeline.

          And why are we so afraid of sanctions?
          What, you can't nationalize McDonald's and Pepsico factories in return?


          Here the problem is not even in the completion of the pipe, but in its operation, there is 3 EU energy package through which we can use only 50% of the gas pipeline's capacity (provided that it is completed), there is also a problem with the certification of SP-2 after its completion, Det Norske Veritas Germanischer Lloyd (DNV GL) refused to certify it, and now the question also hangs in the air ..... well, the main problem is the position of Germany, which has not yet been determined, i.e. There were no negotiations between Biden and Merkel on this topic, and only after Germany's consultations with the United States, a decision will be made on the future fate of SP-2. Therefore, our people do not know what to do .... on the one hand, the permission of Germany and the need for SP-2 seems to be as it is, on the other hand, everything can change very quickly + unresolved problems with the operation of the gas pipeline.
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          2. Brturin
            Brturin 25 January 2021 12: 16
            +2
            Quote: Aleksandr21
            Here the problem is not even in the completion of the pipe, but in its operation, there are 3 EU energy packages

            There have already been several options for bypassing this 3 energy package - the German Handelsblatt "assumed that a company would be created to manage the German section ... the Germans have created a fund so that they can also ... there are options with certification ... so far no one will disclose this will not be .... there are also two vessels not completed on this energy package (but this is more of a formality) and the main question is yes, this is the position of the Germans ... "Then we should also talk about what economic relations in the gas industry with Russia acceptable and which are not "...
        4. Lannan Shi
          Lannan Shi 25 January 2021 07: 08
          +17
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          What, you can't nationalize McDonald's and Pepsico factories in return?

          Can. Only there is one subtle point. Do you know the amount of our gold reserves? And how many of them are stored on the territory of the Russian Federation? It seems not in the know. If chu, then around 20%. Simply put, we have gold and cash. And the rest, 80%, is in accounts abroad. Of these, almost 2/3, or almost half of the total amount of gold and foreign exchange reserves - eu, usa, canada. And there is other property ... So ... In response to pepsiko and poppy, they can also nationalize a lot of things. And the score will most likely not be in our favor at all.
          To start out, you need to have a really independent economy. With what we have baaaalshie problems.
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 25 January 2021 07: 45
            -1
            Quote: Lannan Shi
            To start out, you need to have a really independent economy. With what we have baaaalshie problems.

            Please name at least one independent economy. Besides the American one, of course.
            1. nsm1
              nsm1 25 January 2021 07: 55
              +9
              American is not independent.
              1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Sidor Amenpodestovich 25 January 2021 07: 57
                +3
                Quote: nsm1
                American is not independent.

                That's it. There are no independent economies in the modern world. Accordingly, no one is able to “be bullish” in all fields.
            2. Cube123
              Cube123 25 January 2021 08: 00
              +3
              Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
              Besides the American one, of course.

              They did the right thing to exclude the American one. She is the most dependent one. She only keeps on virtual trust other countries to the dollar and if that confidence is shaken ...
            3. Stas157
              Stas157 25 January 2021 08: 15
              -3
              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Please name at least one independent economy.

              So we had a completely independent economy 30 years ago. Until the pseudo communists destroyed it all. Under the "communist" Putin, by the way, most of the Soviet factories were closed, which were still somehow kept under the alcoholic, and Serdyukov happened to the army.
              1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Sidor Amenpodestovich 25 January 2021 08: 19
                +1
                Quote: Stas157
                So we had a completely independent economy 30 years ago.

                Unfortunately no. Food, pipes for gas pipelines, machine tools, and a bunch of things were bought abroad.
                Development is critically dependent on interaction. No country is capable of developing in isolation.
                One head is good, but the more the better.
                1. Ren
                  Ren 25 January 2021 09: 01
                  0
                  Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  No country is capable of developing in isolation.

                  But what about North Korea, Iran? wink
                  1. tralflot1832
                    tralflot1832 25 January 2021 09: 33
                    +2
                    For them, development costs a little more. The capitalist has not changed for dollars and his mother will sell gold, but there is nothing to say about technology. Yes, there is such a country, China, which provides assistance on favorable terms for itself.
                2. Stas157
                  Stas157 25 January 2021 10: 09
                  +2
                  Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  Unfortunately no... Food, pipes for gas pipelines, machine tools, and a bunch of things were bought abroad.

                  Of course, they bought something (as they did with us). But the economy was independent and stable. And most importantly, the ruble was not dependent on the dollar as it is now.
                  1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                    Sidor Amenpodestovich 25 January 2021 10: 13
                    +3
                    Quote: Stas157
                    But the economy was independent and stable. And most importantly, the ruble was not dependent on the dollar as it is now.

                    It is not for me to tell you about Kosygin's economic reform. Back in the sixties, he stated that the economy needs to be urgently reformed, otherwise it will not end well.
                    The reform began in the seventies. She calved neither wobbly nor roll until the seventy-fifth, in which she was buried.
                    It seemed to the then gerontocrats that there would be enough for their lifetime, and they were right. But the colossus was already on feet of clay, which Kosygin warned about.
                    And you know very well what happened in the end.
                    Alas, there are no prophets in their own country. If they had listened to Stolypin, there would still be the Russian Empire.
                    If they had listened to Kosygin, there would still be a Soviet Empire.
                    1. Stas157
                      Stas157 25 January 2021 10: 49
                      -2
                      Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                      It seemed to the then gerontocrats that they had enough

                      You are right, the problem then (and now) is the irremovability of the elites. In their staticity and inertia. And as a consequence - negative selection to power. Hence the emergence of such pseudo-communists as Yeltsin, Putin, Gorbachev ...
                      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                        Sidor Amenpodestovich 25 January 2021 10: 57
                        -1
                        You will brand me, of course, but I believe that if there was Putin after Stalin, the Union would still be in good health. Otherwise, I would have crushed the FRG of that time, and more.
                      2. Stas157
                        Stas157 25 January 2021 11: 01
                        +1
                        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                        if there was Putin after Stalinthen

                        Well, you are a humorist!))) Then Gagarin would not have flown first into space, but in our country there would be even more oligarchs !!))
                      3. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                        Sidor Amenpodestovich 25 January 2021 11: 05
                        0
                        Well, at least we got along without "zaputintsy", it's already bread.
                        All the best!
        5. Lannan Shi
          Lannan Shi 25 January 2021 08: 33
          +6
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Please name at least one independent economy.

          Yes, at least German. No, in theory, if, then the Americans can start pressing it with sanctions. Just as you can break a door with your head. The consequences in both cases will be approximately the same. For the American economy will get as bad as the door-breaking head. Here's the simplest example. The German economy collapsed, the Deutschebank went bankrupt, and the shares of American banks and funds plummeted. Which hold either a third or a quarter of Deutsche shares. Ordered an economic collapse? No? Don't care. yes Sign and receive. Well, to be sure, the same Pepsiko, whose shares are held by the Deutschebank, will also collapse. The independence of the German economy is that the American one is too dependent on it.
          Our place in world trade ... Between Mexico and Taiwan. Slightly yielding to the first and slightly overtaking the second. In the financial market at all, at the level of statistical error. But the dependence on foreign technology and finance is very, very. That is why the Americans indulge in sanctions as they please. For the dependence on foreign markets is strong, but the impact on them is practically zero.
          PS
          Yes. I forgot one more. With the nationalization of Pepsiko. Don't you think that shit in the pocket of the main German bank is not the best way to fight for SP-2? lol
      3. Ren
        Ren 25 January 2021 09: 00
        +8
        Quote: Lannan Shi
        Can. Only there is one subtle point. Do you know the amount of our gold reserves? And how many of them are stored on the territory of the Russian Federation? It seems not in the know. If chu, then around 20%.

        According to https://cbr.ru/hd_base/mrrf/mrrf_m/ RF gold reserves as of 01.01.2021. total 595 774 million USD, of which:
        Monetary gold - USD 138 million;
        Foreign exchange reserves - USD 457 million, of which:
        - Foreign currency - USD 444 million;
        - On accounts in SDR - 6 million USD;
        - Reserve on the IMF account - USD 5 million.
        those. on foreign accounts - (6 996 + 5 528) / 595 774 = 0,021 (2,1%). hi
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 25 January 2021 13: 33
          +1
          Quote: Ren
          those. on foreign accounts - (6 996 + 5 528) / 595 774 = 0,021 (2,1%).

          Well, your opponent lit up, not thinking that all this can be checked, you really do not take his 20% seriously - it was the usual low-quality propaganda.
          1. Lannan Shi
            Lannan Shi 25 January 2021 17: 33
            0
            Quote: ccsr
            don't take it 20% lightly

            And there is nowhere more serious. 20% plus or minus a penny. Gold and foreign exchange tax And 440 yards, these are not the Kremlin basements, littered with shabby tugriks. And not an armored train, standing somewhere in the taiga, packed under the roof in yuan in small denominations. You have apparently revised the fighters in the style - oblique versus humpback. With the YG carrying a hundred dollars muliens in a children's backpack. These 440 billion are investments in securities. More precisely, not even in paper, but in an entry in the registers. And what is typical, these registers are located either west of Smolensk, or east of Vladik. And block these records ... It's a matter of minutes.
            I don't usually respond to overtly delusional comments. But the idea of ​​440 billion in reserves is like a mountain of pieces of paper ... And so that in small denominations, and the packs, by all means, tighten with rubber bands. From cowards ... Hmm ...
            1. ccsr
              ccsr 25 January 2021 19: 52
              0
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              And what is typical, these registers are located either west of Smolensk, or east of Vladik. And block these records ... It's a matter of minutes.

              And what is characteristic is that we can even more block foreign investment in our enterprises. And they are much larger than all our entries in their registers, and the property is with us. For example Lukoil:
              Nominal holders of Lukoil shares, who carry out their storage and accounting, are: 61,78% - Bank of New York, 10,79% - Cyprus company LUKOIL EMPLOYEE LIMITED (controlled by the Bank of Cyprus through Odella Resources Limited).
              In March 2020, Vagit Alekperov was the owner of 3,11% of Lukoil shares
              [30].

              Do you even know that the annual turnover of this company is more than $ 140 billion and that it is essentially American, and Alikperov is just a cover? And American investors will calmly say goodbye to her, if you believe in your fantasies? Oh well...
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              But the idea of ​​440 billion reserves as a mountain of paper ...

              Firstly, I did not say that this physical amount is in Moscow, although there is cash in the Central Bank. And secondly, we practically store all of our gold - you cannot refute that.
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              These 440 billion are investments in securities.

              It is not necessary - it is more convenient to have them on the account for current operations. Surplus currency is invested in securities, and even then Putin has sharply reduced their purchase in favor of gold.
              So do not puff up your cheeks that only you understand how our gold reserves are used, especially since you cannot know all the nuances. I do not exclude that it is precisely the desire of Western investors to secure their investments in Russia from nationalization that compels us to keep currency in Western banks as an insurance policy.
              1. Lannan Shi
                Lannan Shi 26 January 2021 00: 23
                -1
                Quote: ccsr
                And what is characteristic is that we can even more block foreign investment in our enterprises.

                Learn materiel paw. For the 20th year there is no data yet, but for the 19th ... The total investment of foreigners in Russia is 40 billion less than Russia's investment in imported paper. yes
                And this all investments in Russia, against only our gold reserves. And besides gold reserves and other sweet things are available. Remind me of the seizure of assets of gazprem, in the Netherlands, for 2.6 billion? Or about the yachts of the Mordashovs, Potanins and Alekperovs? Yes, they for one of their ships with the property of the West, Druzhban Vova dissolve on ribbons. And there and in addition to these toys .... A lot of things can be removed. yes
                Quote: ccsr
                For example Lukoil:

                Do you know the main investor in Russia? Cyprus if chu. Slightly less than 1/3 of all investments. Another 20% are Bermuda, Bahamas and other jersey. Those. in fact, more than half of foreign investments are not foreign, but "foreign". But then yes. The Americans will be terribly upset when you nationalize the leftist investments of various Alekperovs and Potanins. Straight suicide from melancholy and worries. laughing
                Quote: ccsr
                And secondly, we practically store all of our gold - you cannot refute that.

                And the point is to refute, if I originally wrote - 20% of the gold reserves, plus or minus a penny. Gold and cash are kept with us.
                You do not understand the obvious. The USSR could play in nationalization. Because the friends of the IVS did not have any property with accounts in landons and paris. Not the ministers did not stir it up on different islands of the office, on which half of the Soviet industry would re-register. And the comprador economy ... It is not geared towards that.
                1. ccsr
                  ccsr 26 January 2021 11: 17
                  -1
                  Quote: Lannan Shi
                  The total investment of foreigners in Russia is 40 billion less than Russia's investment in imported paper.

                  Give a link - according to whose data? And why are you only counting one year's investment? Do you ignore previous attachments?
                  Quote: Lannan Shi
                  Remind me of the seizure of assets of gazprem, in the Netherlands, for 2.6 billion? Or about the yachts of the Mordashovs, Potanins and Alekperovs? Yes, they for one of their ships with the property of the West, Druzhban Vova dissolve on ribbons.

                  Dream. They are not stupid enough not to understand that they themselves will be robbed, if only Putin is removed, so they hold on to him. Where are Gusinsky with Berezovsky and the other Khodarkovsky who opened the door with their feet to Yeltsin, and where is their capital now?
                  Quote: Lannan Shi
                  Do you know the main investor in Russia? Cyprus if chu.

                  This is a common gasket, do not bother people, find something more serious for argumentation. Even Western businessmen use this trick - why are we worse?
                  Quote: Lannan Shi
                  You do not understand the obvious. The USSR could play in nationalization.

                  Do not indulge in verbiage - even Thatcher did not disdain nationalization when it had to be done in the interests of the country in order to pull the industry out of failure. For now, everything is just going well in our country, but if one of the Westerners rock the boat, then he may be reminded of the fate of Soros's investments.
                  Quote: Lannan Shi
                  ... And the comprador economy ... It is not geared towards that.

                  Our economy is usual for developed capitalism. I don’t see any special comprador inclinations in our bourgeoisie, but on the contrary, they constantly have an animal fear of losing capital abroad. That is why they will do their best to support Putin and his successor, just not to lose the support of the authorities in critical situations, especially during showdowns, as is now happening with SP-2.
                  So you are in vain to hope that this contingent hates Putin - on the contrary, they push him for another term, which is likely to happen. Or they will make him become a shadow president of the country, like Nazarbayev or Shaimiev.
      4. Vladimir1155
        Vladimir1155 25 January 2021 10: 46
        -1
        Quote: Lannan Shi
        To start out, you need to have a really independent economy. With what we have baaaalshie problems.

        not quite so, you need to have a government and the Central Bank independent of the West, then you can transfer assets from Western banks to yourself in a week. And the alliance with China nullifies all sanctions, China has everything and even more than the West.
        1. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 26 January 2021 10: 03
          -2
          Quote: vladimir1155
          Quote: Lannan Shi
          To start out, you need to have a really independent economy. With what we have baaaalshie problems.

          not quite so, you need to have a government and the Central Bank independent of the West, then you can transfer assets from Western banks to yourself in a week. And the alliance with China nullifies all sanctions, China has everything and even more than the West.

          Only recently, China did not allow Rosneft to trade with Venezuelan oil on its stock exchange, after which Rosneft quickly threw off Venezuelan assets to the state.
      5. Vadim237
        Vadim237 25 January 2021 14: 08
        -1
        "You need to have a really independent economy." There is no such thing in any country in the world - everyone in the market trades with each other, everything is interconnected.
    2. nsm1
      nsm1 25 January 2021 07: 54
      -4
      Quote: Ilya-spb
      They are building ... They are not building. They are building again. We would have taken and completed these unfortunate 120 km of the pipeline.

      And chatting, chatting, chatting ...
      Well, how much can you?
      Fucked up completely!
    3. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 25 January 2021 08: 15
      +1
      Quote: Ilya-spb
      And why are we so afraid of sanctions?
      What, you can't nationalize McDonald's and Pepsico factories in return?

      It is very necessary to nationalize them ... "Dumplings" need to be launched, "pancake" ones.
      And add the American flag to the signs of these establishments and to the packaging of their products so that they remember where they came from!
    4. Olkhovsky
      Olkhovsky 25 January 2021 08: 18
      +6
      McDonald's

      McDonald's is a franchise in the Russian Federation, the owners are our citizens with the status of individual entrepreneurs.
    5. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 25 January 2021 08: 21
      0
      Well, you nationalize them. What's next? Brand too? When will at least someone understand that while Yolki-Palki are stupidly bankrupt brands with a world name are not? And not because they are better. And because of the consumers themselves.
    6. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 25 January 2021 08: 37
      +3
      And why are we so afraid of sanctions?

      These are not ours. These "not ours" are afraid to open branches of Sberbank in Crimea.
    7. Avior
      Avior 25 January 2021 08: 40
      +2
      One can
      Only McDonald's is a franchise. He has completely different owners
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    8. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 26 January 2021 09: 58
      0
      Quote: Ilya-spb
      They are building ... They are not building. They are building again. We would have taken and completed these unfortunate 120 km of the pipeline.

      And why are we so afraid of sanctions?
      What, you can't nationalize McDonald's and Pepsico factories in return?

      Is it possible. Just what will it give the country? Soda and hamburgers? So they are already present
    9. major147
      major147 26 January 2021 18: 35
      +1
      Quote: Ilya-spb
      They are building ... They are not building. They are building again.

      They are being built by order of Germany, but they "want it, and inject, and the uncle will not order." So the builders are twitching.
  • Cube123
    Cube123 25 January 2021 06: 32
    +14
    Quote: Lipchanin
    Today they say one thing, tomorrow another

    Ignore the words. "Big uncle" makes big money with these words. This is called market manipulation. Watch the cases. In the meantime, over the past three months, Gazprom shares have grown by 40%
    1. Cube123
      Cube123 25 January 2021 06: 43
      +11
      And in London (in foreign currency), and at all by 52%
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 25 January 2021 08: 23
      +3
      Quote: Cube123
      In the meantime, over the past three months, Gazprom shares have grown by 40%

      and have fallen over the past two weeks - from your own schedule fellow
      1. Oleg1263
        Oleg1263 25 January 2021 10: 47
        +2
        Judging by the London Stock Exchange, there is not a sickly gap (gap) down. And, as you know, the market almost always closes the gap, so the price movement will still be up (90 percent) ...
    3. Stas157
      Stas157 25 January 2021 11: 06
      +3
      Quote: Cube123
      over the last three months, Gazprom shares have grown by 40%

      In three months, yes. And in general, how are things going? Neither wobbly, nor roll? Capitalization is much lower than the level of 2008! Here is a monthly chart by year:

      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 25 January 2021 14: 11
        +1
        Capitalization is not interested - the indicators of net profit for the year are of interest.
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 25 January 2021 16: 39
          +1
          Quote: Vadim237
          Capitalization does not interest - interested in net profit indicators per year.

          What is she like?

          Finam writes:
          Sales revenue decreased by 25% in 9 months of 2020 compared to the same period last year and amounted to 4 million rubles. Loss for 9 months of 2020 amounted to 202 million rubles... For the same period of 2019, the company made a profit of 1 million rubles.

          December 2020 year.
          1. Brturin
            Brturin 25 January 2021 21: 57
            +2
            Quote: Stas157
            What is she like? Finam writes:

            There is no profit, and "over the past three months, Gazprom shares have grown by 40%" ... Deputy Chairman of the Board of the Company Famil Sadigov "According to the results of 2020, we consider it possible to pay 40% of the adjusted net profit in full compliance with the dividend policy" - I predict profit based on the results of the year...
  • Dodikson
    Dodikson 25 January 2021 06: 33
    -1
    the main thing is that our bureaucrats do not make a great victory in all media out of words where everything is fine with us, because when you read what everyone is like and how great we are, the news that we don’t do a damn thing because the tail is weak, then this is like a slap in the face.
    and it would be okay once or twice, but this damn thing happens regularly and is already starting to enrage.
    so, IMHO, let them do it, and when the gas goes through it, then blow all the fanfare, but until they do, let them be silent in a rag
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 25 January 2021 06: 53
      -5
      Quote: Dodikson
      great victory in all media

      This is how these media print each other
      One will play the bagpipes, others will pick up
  • Finches
    Finches 25 January 2021 06: 48
    0
    Now, having cheered himself up with an injection of morphine (or whatever is injected into him, to maintain his pants), Joe Biden will cry about sanctions and about trampling on democratic values! laughing
  • Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 25 January 2021 06: 24
    0
    Who will squeeze whom? That is the question ... the US Europe or the Fortuna gas pipeline ... how interesting the situation is. smile

    It's been so long, we haven't rested for so long
    We just had no time to rest with you
    We plowed half of Europe with Fortune
    And tomorrow, tomorrow, finally, the last fight
    A little more, a little bit more
    The last fight is the hardest one
    And I want to go home to Russia
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 25 January 2021 07: 35
      -1
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      A little more, a little bit more

      It's like an epigraph, and then (to the theme of the song by Y. Antonov):

      Dreams come true and do not come true
      Come true again and again no
      Fortune smiles at us crookedly
      And Chersky is again a simple student
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 25 January 2021 06: 33
    +6
    it can be assumed that the European partners still assured the Russian side that they are interested in the implementation of the project
    Today they assured me, tomorrow after the "conversation" with the Americans they will start again "I play here, I don't play here, I wrapped the fish here." Guessing and predicting is not a rewarding business, so we'll see.
  • Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 25 January 2021 06: 55
    0
    Does anyone know how many petals a chamomile has?
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 25 January 2021 07: 09
      0
      From the point of view of Botany, a chamomile flower has 5 petals. hi
      1. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 25 January 2021 07: 15
        -2
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        From the point of view of Botany, a chamomile flower has 5 petals.

        Garden chamomile has much more. And Miller's garden seems to have a genetic mutant.
      2. Ros 56
        Ros 56 25 January 2021 07: 29
        +5
        In the summer, count so as not to embarrass yourself on VO.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 25 January 2021 07: 29
      -1
      Quote: Polite Elk
      Does anyone know how many petals a chamomile has?

      Two petals.
      "Love does not love" lol
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 25 January 2021 07: 05
    -1
    Has it finally started off dead center? Have you found a businessman in the country who is not afraid of US sanctions, because he has no accounts abroad? ??
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 25 January 2021 07: 58
      -1
      "Gazprom" continues to install, not at the expense of the businessman, but at the expense of the money invested in the project
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 25 January 2021 07: 27
    +2
    The striped teeth there did not crumble out of anger. After all, there are so many sanctions, and the Russians put a bolt on top of them. Abidna, yes, listen. wassat
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 25 January 2021 07: 56
      +2
      Quote: Ros 56
      The striped teeth there did not crumble out of anger.

      And how many are here dissatisfied that the installation continues laughing
      1. Cube123
        Cube123 25 January 2021 08: 13
        +3
        Quote: Lipchanin

        And how many are here dissatisfied that the installation continues laughing

        The checkboxes have been removed, now you cannot analyze laughing
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 25 January 2021 08: 23
          -2
          Quote: Cube123
          Checkboxes removed

          I didn't understand which checkboxes? smile
          1. Cube123
            Cube123 25 January 2021 08: 27
            +3
            Quote: Lipchanin
            I didn't understand which checkboxes? smile

            Several years ago, next to the username there was a flag of the country from which he wrote. Then they were removed because many started logging in through anonymizers. hi
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 25 January 2021 08: 35
              +2
              Quote: Cube123
              Several years ago, next to the username there was a flag of the country from which he wrote.

              I remembered yes
              I didn't guess right away laughing
              Yes, here and without flags it is clear to whom SP-2 is "out of luck"
              1. The leader of the Redskins
                The leader of the Redskins 25 January 2021 08: 54
                -10%
                Excuse me, but you "in the vein?" What will you personally receive after completing the project? Just like all of us (I am sure that Gazprom top managers are not sitting here).
                But the sanctions (from which, according to some people, we are only better off) ricochet into our pockets.
                1. Ros 56
                  Ros 56 25 January 2021 09: 39
                  0
                  And you sew them up, your pockets, or you never know ... lol
                2. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 25 January 2021 09: 42
                  -2
                  Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                  What will you personally receive after completing the project?

                  Russia receives
                  Gazprom is the largest joint-stock company in Russia. The total number of accounts on which 23 Gazprom shares are accounted for exceeds 673 thousand. The state controls over 50% of the Company's shares.

                  I live in Russia
                  But the sanctions (from which, according to some people, we are only better off) ricochet into our pockets.

                  So you think we will stop building and the sanctions will be lifted? laughing New ones will come up laughing
                  So they are going to impose sanctions for the basement won
                  1. The leader of the Redskins
                    The leader of the Redskins 25 January 2021 10: 09
                    -6
                    You, like most of us, do indeed live in Russia. But those who own "Gazprom" ... More likely in the "lake" cooperative.
                    1. Lipchanin
                      Lipchanin 25 January 2021 10: 15
                      0
                      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                      But those who own Gazprom ..

                      And I absolutely do not care for them.
                      From childhood taught not to count money in other people's pockets
                    2. Cube123
                      Cube123 25 January 2021 11: 32
                      +6
                      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                      You, like most of us, do indeed live in Russia. But those who own "Gazprom" ... More likely in the "lake" cooperative.

                      In any case, there are half a million more people whom Gazprom provides with jobs and wages
                      https://sustainability.gazpromreport.ru/2019/3-personnel/3-2-strength/
                      Plus his taxes, from which salaries of state employees and pensions are paid.

                      Who owns Gazprom - unclassified information
                      https://www.gazprom.ru/investors/stock/structure/
            2. Flooding
              Flooding 25 January 2021 13: 14
              +1
              Quote: Cube123
              Several years ago, next to the username there was a flag of the country from which he wrote. Then they were removed because many started logging in through anonymizers

              When they first appeared there was a free choice of them at will.
              Someone chose the flag of the USSR.
              I did not follow the development of the idea.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 25 January 2021 08: 07
    +4
    It is difficult to assess what is happening. One thing can be understood. Grandma Merkel finally decided to slam the door. Putin said - we need a gas pipeline - harness, it is not needed - we will not finish building it! And with your charter you will figure out who will fill 50% of the pipe there. Tough ... The Germans figured out what would happen if you switch to LNG, hiccupped, and rushed ... "Fortune" laughing
    This is how I see it.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 25 January 2021 08: 22
      -1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      The Germans figured out what would happen if they switched to LNG, hiccupped, and rushed ...

      They figured it out a long time ago, only the Americans pressed hard
      and rushed ... "Fortune"

      Fortuna started working with tacit consent
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 25 January 2021 10: 19
    +2
    The figure of Navalny is too small for stopping Nord Stream 2. Navalnya, get down to business! The Great Musk will give 100 milen forever green to anyone who comes up with a technology for extracting CO2 from emissions and converting it into a solid state. So we will burn and burn everything that burns, especially gas Even Musk doesn't really believe in green energy.
  • Viktor Afanasev
    Viktor Afanasev 25 January 2021 13: 46
    -1
    The more the Administration of the Russian Federation sells the national property abroad, the worse the common people live ... sad
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 25 January 2021 14: 14
      0
      In fact, Russia sells a little more than a third of the rest of its domestic consumption.
  • certero
    certero 26 January 2021 08: 27
    0
    All those responsible for laying this gas pipeline should have been fired long ago. Was it really impossible to resolve the issue with the pipe-laying vessel? Well, Gazprom would buy it, report on the project and sell it. And instead, they've been doing bullshit for 2 years.
  • kig
    kig 26 January 2021 13: 15
    0
    And what does Chersky do? It seems that he has not yet laid a single meter of pipe, and is only doing what goes Kaliningrad-Mukran-Wismar. Or was it never redesigned for larger pipes?
  • Alexander I
    Alexander I 26 January 2021 16: 02
    0
    Well, they will build a pipe and immediately restrict it in loading with some kind of energy package, and then they will break out their hands and pump us on almost free gas.
  • xomaNN
    xomaNN 26 January 2021 20: 12
    0
    SP-2 passed by an indicator - Will Gazprom (actually Russia) be against Yankee Sam or will it bend? smile

    It is necessary to complete it for sure. But Gazprom, which has dragged the country into a risky and costly project, must be forced to return 10 billion to the Russian Federation in the form of taxes and other instruments, directly or indirectly.
    1. Viktor Afanasev
      Viktor Afanasev 31 January 2021 20: 34
      0
      GAZPROM is only 50,23% owned by the state, see their official website. So, I would not say that Gazprom is Russia ... But if we NATIONALIZE and take all profits to the budget without taxes (taking into account the deduction of development costs), then it will be a completely different matter. Why feed overseas shareholders?
  • Petro_tut
    Petro_tut 26 January 2021 21: 17
    0
    Come on, so the Germans outweighed pragmatism drinks