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Reported about development work on the program of the promising interceptor MiG-41

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Fighter-interceptor MiG-31BM



The Rostec website has published remarkable information. It concerns a new generation of domestic fighter-interceptors. Recall that at the moment, the Russian Aerospace Forces operates MiG-31 interceptors.

The Rostec website indicates that today not only work is underway to extend the service life of the MiG-31BM interceptors, but also work within the MiG-41 project. It is noted that we are talking about the PAK DP project (a promising long-range intercept air complex). The final combat vehicle should eventually receive the designation MiG-41.

From the message of Rostec:

The PAK DP project under the symbol "MiG-41" is at the stage of development work (development work).

Earlier it was reported that MiG specialists identified the main features of the future long-range interceptor and began to work out the technical appearance. They discussed, in particular, the use of composite materials in its future production and modern principles of aviation structure. However, for several years (at least since 2017), there was no information about whether the PAK DP project was progressing. Now it becomes known that work is underway. True, there is still no specific data on the approximate timing of their implementation and the parameters of the MiG-41 interceptor itself.

Considering the modern features of air combat, experts suggest that the MiG-41 will differ from the previous generation of interceptor fighters not only in flight altitude parameters, but also in weapons. In particular, it is indicated that the weapons of the PAK DP should be such that, with their help, it could hit air targets at distances of several hundred kilometers. It is assumed that air-to-air missiles will be located in the inner compartments of the combat aircraft.
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  1. Thrifty
    Thrifty 24 January 2021 17: 03
    -32%
    On the Internet, if you make a joke, you can find information about flight speed, combat radius, flight altitude, weapons, as if a thrust was deliberately made, or information was leaked, perhaps not by chance! hi
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 24 January 2021 17: 08
      +72
      Quote: Thrifty
      On the Internet, if you joke, you can find ...

      On the Internet, you can find something different: from proof of Trump's alien origin to the list of performance characteristics of pepelats and gravitsappa ...
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 24 January 2021 17: 16
        -32%
        Volodin - but such and such information is published in their space by other serious sites writing about military equipment hi Internet to help you! hi
      2. 210ox
        210ox 24 January 2021 17: 48
        +13
        Even pictures of this interceptor (not yet created) in the sky ..
      3. antivirus
        antivirus 24 January 2021 18: 46
        -17%
        and carrier-based fighters are not being developed - again the passage of the Moreman.
        10 pcs AV 100 000 VI will not be
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 24 January 2021 19: 51
          +28
          Quote: antivirus
          and carrier-based fighters are not developed

          And they shouldn't. The planes on the special project did not fall sideways, and it is possible to adapt any modern fighter to the deck during the construction of AB at least twice.
          1. Liam
            Liam 24 January 2021 20: 01
            -11%
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            Quote: antivirus
            and carrier-based fighters are not developed

            And they shouldn't. The planes on the special project did not fall sideways, and it is possible to adapt any modern fighter to the deck during the construction of AB at least twice.

            Name the models of "land" fighters adapted "on the knee" for fast flights from aircraft carriers
            1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
              Andrei from Chelyabinsk 24 January 2021 22: 13
              +19
              Quote: Liam
              Name the models of "land" fighters adapted "on the knee" for fast flights from aircraft carriers

              Su-27, MiG-29
              1. Liam
                Liam 24 January 2021 22: 28
                -4
                ))))

                The development of the aircraft concept began in 1978, and the direct design of the machine began in 1984, however, tests on the NITKA complex from the MiG OKB began first on the usual MiG-23, and then on the MiG-29LL - a flying laboratory (from the usual MiG-29 it distinguished by the absence of electronic equipment and a reinforced chassis) and on August 21, 1982, test pilot A.G. Fastovets performed the first takeoff from a springboard. Landing on the deck of an aircraft-carrying cruiser and the first takeoff from it, the MiG-29K made November 1, 1989 under the control of Toktar Aubakirov.
                10 years.

                It went into series production after 10 years and was naturally developed initially as a deck boat. Land-based analogue of the MiG-29 in 78 did not exist in nature
                1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                  Andrei from Chelyabinsk 25 January 2021 07: 57
                  +4
                  Quote: Liam
                  The development of the aircraft concept began in 1978, and the direct design of the aircraft began in 1984.

                  Liam, wiki is, of course, power, but you would at least master Airvar
                  The second deep modification of the MiG-29 light front-line fighter was the MiG-29K multipurpose shipborne aircraft. development work on which was carried out at the MMZ im. A.I. Mikoyan since the mid-80s. in parallel with the design of the MiG-29M ...
                  ... In 1978 MMZ im. AI Mikoyan made a proposal to create on the basis of the 4th generation fighter MiG-29 a carrier-based aircraft MiG-29K. At the same time, it was planned that the migi╩ would complement the heavier and more expensive Su-27K in the TAVKR air group.

                  The proposal was accepted, but then put on the table, they decided to return to the Yak-141. Work resumed only in 84, but already on the basis of a new modification, that is, the MiG-29M, which at that time was not yet ready
                  Quote: Liam
                  He went into production after another 10.

                  It went into series production 10 years later, because the Su-33 was chosen for our TAVKR. And so - the MiG-29K was released at the GSI in 1991, 7 years after the start of development, and immediately after the completion of the GSI MiG-29M. But the project was stopped and put on the table until the "Hindu contract". Hence, 10 years.
                  The realities are as follows. The Su-27K, the creation of which was started in 1984 on the basis of the combatant Su-27, went into production since 1989, and the GSI completed the aircraft in 1994. By this time, 24 Su-27Ks had already been built for Kuznetsov. That is, it took 5 years from the start of work to serial production.
                  The MiG-29K was a little delayed because it was an adaptation to the deck of the not yet created MiG-29M aircraft, but it was also realistic for it to go into a series of commercials in 1992-93. 8-9.
                  After making a decision to build an aircraft carrier, we will develop it for 3-4 years, and then build for another 10-12 years.
                  1. antivirus
                    antivirus 25 January 2021 10: 33
                    0
                    so they look at the financing schedule - THIS IS THE MAIN THING. not for technical projects.
                    I write many times. except for the joking "10 pieces of 100VI" - how much will it cost?
                    And immediately making a decision "about aircraft carriers" translates the Russian Federation into another qualitative category and a level of dedication - AND IMMEDIATELY IN DR FINAL COSTS. see the biography of Siluanov. not my comts.
                    - what will Gref get? and Kostin? Sberbank's shareholders will immediately be asked to take part in the construction of AB - those partners are sticking their noses everywhere, do not destroy the power of Russia, so make money on it.
                    --and many other reasons - not a period of technical readiness in hardware.
                  2. Liam
                    Liam 25 January 2021 12: 20
                    -3
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    the Su-33 was chosen.

                    Yes ... he is still a deck-based invalid. The more than sad state of Soviet / Russian deck aviation is a clear example that improvisation in this matter is fraught. Actually, no one in the world does such nonsense anymore.
                    The smart ones learn from their mistakes, the not very smart ones don't even learn from their own
                    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 25 January 2021 12: 59
                      +4
                      Quote: Liam
                      Yes ... he's still a deck handicap.

                      Only in your imagination :)))) In reality, a heavy ship-based fighter, and even without a catapult ... This is 5+.
                      Quote: Liam
                      Actually, no one in the world does such nonsense anymore.

                      The Chinese and British obviously do not live in this world.
                      1. Liam
                        Liam 25 January 2021 13: 12
                        -1
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        It is 5+

                        velo pietoso
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        Chinese

                        The Chinese are well-known trendsetters in the aircraft carrier fleet and in the maritime business in general. Their rich traditions and epic naval / aircraft carrier battles are on everyone's lips.
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        the English

                        I'm embarrassed to ask ... what kind of improvised planes fly from British aircraft carriers?
                      2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 25 January 2021 13: 18
                        +2
                        Quote: Liam
                        The Chinese are well-known trendsetters in the aircraft carrier fleet and in the maritime business in general. Their rich traditions and epic naval / aircraft carrier battles are on everyone's lips.

                        And, most importantly, they live in a neighboring galaxy
                        Quote: Liam
                        I'm embarrassed to ask ... what kind of improvised planes fly from British aircraft carriers?

                        F-35 from the springboard. They unified the poor fellow with the F-35S and A on the model and likeness of the MiG-29M / MiG-29K ...
                      3. Liam
                        Liam 25 January 2021 14: 39
                        -2
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        F-35 from the springboard. They unified the poor fellow with the F-35S and A on the model and likeness of the MiG-29M / MiG-29K ...

                        The main problem of those who write nonsense (or lies) is that in order to cover up the previous nonsense they are forced to write even more nonsense, slipping into more and more absurd with each new passage. And in the end they look funny)
                      4. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 25 January 2021 14: 51
                        +3
                        Quote: Liam
                        The main problem of those who write nonsense (or lies) is that in order to cover up the previous nonsense, they are forced to write even greater nonsense, sliding into ever greater absurdity with each new passage.

                        The argumentation, as I understand it, is finally over? However, it did not start with you
                    2. 3danimal
                      3danimal 25 January 2021 23: 28
                      +1
                      F-35 from the springboard. Unified, poor fellow with the F-35S and A on the model

                      It is worth being objective - the F-35V is the best SCVVP aircraft at present and ever created (range, avionics, radar, stealth, a solution with a lift fan instead of a "hot" turbojet engine good )
                      And it is produced in large series.
                    3. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 26 January 2021 07: 36
                      0
                      Quote: 3danimal
                      It is worth being objective - the F-35V is the best SKVVP aircraft

                      Yes, the question is not that, but that the F-35 take off with a short takeoff run and with the help of a springboard, as, in fact, the Su-33.
      4. PROXOR
        PROXOR 25 January 2021 13: 08
        0
        I forgot the Su-25.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 25 January 2021 13: 19
          +1
          Quote: PROXOR
          I forgot the Su-25.

          it was about fighters
  2. 3danimal
    3danimal 24 January 2021 20: 02
    +2
    Anyone can’t. MiG-31, for example.
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 25 January 2021 09: 02
      +2
      Quote: 3danimal
      Anyone can’t. MiG-31, for example.

      I wrote
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      any modern fighter

      The MiG-31 still cannot be called modern. And I meant multifunctional fighters, not specialized interceptors
      1. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 25 January 2021 09: 32
        -5
        The MiG-31 still cannot be called modern ... and what criterion in armament is MODERN ... explain ...
        a sane person, when discussing military equipment, uses the cost-effectiveness parameter, that is, there is a lot of what is available to ensure the completion of tasks,
        dull sofas screaming at the top of their lungs ... RPG-7 is outdated ... how can it become obsolete if tandem grenades appeared to it that breaks any armor and thermobaric shots that prevent the enemy from surviving indoors. and on the ground ... I am sure that you will not be happy with the code, you will feel the action of the "worn out" RPG-7 ...
        and in the case of the MiG-31 ... against the background of the adoption of fundamentally new weapons schemes, the 31st generally had unique opportunities ...
        let's stop this chatter about the OUTDATE so as not to be imbecile
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 25 January 2021 10: 05
          +2
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          The MiG-31 still cannot be called modern ... and what criterion in armament is MODERN ... explain ...

          The same as for everything else. We open the dictionary "Ozhegova", and read
          Modern - referring to the same time, to the same era with someone else.

          The MiG-31 was put into service in 1981, 40 years ago. By the standards of military aviation - a whole era. So it cannot be modern in any way
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          a sane person, discussing military equipment, uses the price-efficiency parameter about there is a lot of what is available to ensure the completion of tasks

          Let's first learn how to separate flies from cutlets. Yes, here, at least, on the example of the RPG-7
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          dull sofas screaming at the top of their lungs ... RPG-7 is outdated ... how can it become obsolete if tandem grenades appeared to it that breaks any armor and thermobaric shots that prevent the enemy from surviving indoors. and on the ground ... I am sure that you will not be happy with the code, you will feel the action of the "worn out" RPG-7 ...

          Firstly, the concepts of "not modern" and "obsolete" are different, and you should know that. What is "modern", I have already indicated above. But whether the weapon system is outdated or not depends on its ability to solve the tasks assigned to it, and the effectiveness of solving these tasks.
          In this regard, the RPG-7, although it was not modern, could not be considered obsolete before the appearance of armored vehicles with KAZ. However, the same "Cranberry" was more powerful, but still the RPG-7 with new ammunition could work on targets with remote sensing.
          However, today, with the advent of KAZ, other grenade launchers, such as RPG-30, are needed, which are equipped with a KAZ overcoming system. The RPG-7 in modern conditions, although it has not lost the ability to inflict damage on the enemy (very often fatal), is no longer suitable against the most modern protection systems of armored vehicles. In other words, it is outdated, but it still retains the ability to effectively solve a number of battlefield tasks that are not related to the defeat of modern armored vehicles with KAZ.
          I can give you an even more amusing example. With a Roman gladius in my hands, I can easily butcher a man in "Warrior". That is, the sword performs its function, but still remains an outdated type of weapon.
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          and in the case of the MiG-31 ...

          The MiG-31 is not modern, but partially retains the ability to solve the problems of aircraft of its class. Intercept cruise missiles of old types (Tomahawk and Co.), he can, according to modern (jassm), there are doubts. At the same time, solving the problems for which it was created
          The MiG-31 is designed to intercept and destroy air targets at extremely low, medium and high altitudes, day and night, in simple and difficult weather conditions, when the enemy uses active and passive radar jamming, as well as false thermal targets.

          today, to put it mildly, it is doubtful even for the MiG-31BM. This is probably why it was turned into a "wagon", making it possible to carry strike weapons.
          In other words, the MiG-31BM is not only not modern, but, quite possibly, also an outdated aircraft. Although, of course, there is still something - and a lot.
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          let's stop this chatter about the OUTDATE so as not to be imbecile

          Be who you want, who am I to deny you?
          1. Crimean partisan 1974
            Crimean partisan 1974 25 January 2021 10: 35
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            Be who you want, who am I to forbid you? ..... right, then you can debate, especially since I have given more of my life to the service so far .. true in structures diametrically opposed to murder ... nevertheless, about the calculation of SIS hammered in tight ... now on the topic
            The MiG-31 was put into service in 1981 ..... it doesn't matter. it is important that the technique is not dead-end, that is, it has the ability to increase efficiency ... well, there are enough examples both in the West and in our country to list enough for a full-fledged article ... it is important to understand what a dead-end branch of development is ...
            Yes, here, at least, using the RPG-7 as an example ... that's exactly an interesting topic about an outdated RPG, .... that's an example ... the PIAT grenade launcher is a dead-end RPG branch, a bazooka-like caliber type of a dead-end RPG branch. although Karl continues this branch of caliber RPGs, but production is an order of magnitude more expensive than 7-ka, ... these caliber branches were occupied by disposable RPGs ... and now the most interesting thing ... overcoming KAZ ... a vivid example of the defeat of the Merkav equipped KAZ were struck by Cornets, Bassoons ... why ... they say they were not turned on ... why they were not turned on ... I suppose there is a person in the combat vehicle, which means it must work until the last crew member leaves the car .... in any case, the crew does not remove the remote control every time it is used .. what is wrong with the KAZ ... and most importantly .... there is not a single test of the KAZ during the massive shelling of the vehicle, as well as the combined shelling with the use of small arms ... so even experts call KAZ a panacea with interference, along the way it is a dead-end branch for armored vehicles ..

            In other words, the MiG-31BM is not only not modern, but, quite possibly, also an outdated aircraft. .... that is, you doubt the armament of the MiG-31 .... along the way the Pentagon does not support your opinion, when there is a commotion during the takeoff of the MiG-31 link. sometimes even with notes of concern, ... the Su-30 and the entire line from Su-27 to Su-35 take off like nothing, and the MiG-31 causes a commotion ... probably because it is outdated ...
            .
            1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
              Andrei from Chelyabinsk 25 January 2021 10: 54
              +3
              Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
              along the way, the Pentagon does not support your opinion, when, when the MiG-31 flight takes off, there is a commotion there. it even happens with notes

              Let's read these very notes. Will you give me a link?
              Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
              .Su-30 and the entire line from Su-27 to Su-35 take off something like nothing, and the MiG-31 causes a stir ...

              So let's see what kind of a commotion there is in the Pentagon, from which sources you took it.
              Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
              so even experts call KAZ a panacea, along the way, this is a dead-end branch for armored vehicles ..

              I will not argue with you, I am not an expert in armored vehicles. If what you say is true, then the RPG-7 cannot be considered outdated, although it is still not modern.
              1. Crimean partisan 1974
                Crimean partisan 1974 25 January 2021 11: 04
                -2
                Let's read these very notes. Will you give me a link? .... Fox nyus video archive. BBC., As well as the archives of the Times and other mass media of the West ... I personally vpadlu to poke around ... if interested, I suggested the direction ...
                it means RPG-7 cannot be considered outdated, although it is still not modern ..... I asked you along the way ... what is modern in military equipment ... you started to play around, I want to understand your point of view. but I can’t .... Duc what modern weapons are .... railgun ... combat laser, ... well, I will not drag in Hollywood .... Duc what do you think there is a modern military weapon ...
              2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                Andrei from Chelyabinsk 25 January 2021 13: 30
                +1
                Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                I personally vpadlu poking around .... if interested, I suggested the direction .....

                Sorry, but the burden of proof lies with the claimant. You have not proved your statement.
                Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                I asked you along the way ... what is modern in military technology ... you started playing

                Am I playing? :)))) Seriously? :)))))
                I explained to you on my fingers that “not modern” is one thing, but “outdated” is another, and that you are confusing the criteria of efficiency and modernity. Non-modern weapons may well be effective today, but this does not make them modern. Not all modern weapons are effective.
                Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                I will understand your point of view but I can not....

                I'm sorry.
                Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                Duc what are modern weapons

                Read one more time
                Modern - referring to the same time, to the same era with someone else.

                Modern weapons are Su-35, AK-12, frigate Gorshkov, nuclear submarine Virginia of the last "blocks", "Armata", "Vanguard", "Bulava", "Sineva", etc., etc. P.
              3. Crimean partisan 1974
                Crimean partisan 1974 25 January 2021 19: 48
                -1
                ... You have not proved your statement .... I showed the way. another thing is Andrey, the crown has no desire ... so you play until zero

                I explained to you on my fingers that "not modern" is one thing, but "outdated" is synonyms in Russian .... like the word "stupid person" and "not smart person" ...

                relating to the same time, to the same era with someone else ... at the moment, the era has not changed since the Cold War, ... the military formations of the Armed Forces of the countries are built in the same way as in the 20th century, .. or anything has not changed ... therefore, the weapons too

                Modern weapons are Su-35, AK-12, frigate Gorshkov, nuclear submarine Virginia of the last "blocks", "Armata", "Vanguard", "Bulava", "Sineva", etc., etc. n ... oops ... well, let's start in order
                1.Su-35 ... agree. but the Su-35 scheme is already 40 years old
                2. AK-12 ... and what has changed, that the combat stops have been added or decreased, the rifling and the pitch of the rifling in the barrel have changed ..... do not itch ... except for the body kit that can be screwed on with electrical tape or anything else
                3 well, with a frigate, okay, the satellite constellation system is really important. but no more .. from this did not become more modern
                4 nuclear submarines "Virginia" ..... do not be ridiculous, seawulf is exactly like the verginia nuclear-powered ships, that is, the old sore of all nuclear submarines .... the inability to lie on the ground, because the reactor pumps the sea water with a characteristic whistle. the working depth is not more than 300 meters and the maximum depth is not more than 450 meters, along the way, the Losangeles are all the same ... the weapons are the same as those of the Losangeles. even less at face value ... fucking new
                well pozhzha and we will disassemble it on the shelves "Armata", "Vanguard", "Bulava", "Sineva"
              4. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                Andrei from Chelyabinsk 26 January 2021 07: 38
                +2
                Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                .Su-35 ... agree. but the Su-35 scheme is already 40 years old
                2. AK-12 ... and what has changed, that the combat stops have been added or decreased, the rifling and the pitch of the rifling in the barrel have changed ..... do not itch ... except for the body kit that can be screwed on with electrical tape or anything else
                3 well, with a frigate, okay, the satellite constellation system is really important. but no more .. from this did not become more modern
                4 nuclear submarines "Virginia" ..... don't be ridiculous, seawulf is exactly like the virginia nuclear-powered ships, that is, the old sore of all nuclear submarines .... the inability to lie on the ground,

                Dear readers of this correspondence, does anyone need an analysis of this nonsense, or everyone already understands everything, and I can not waste my time?
              5. Crimean partisan 1974
                Crimean partisan 1974 27 January 2021 15: 16
                -1
                an analysis of this nonsense is needed ... but I didn't notice my nonsense ... it's sad ...
              6. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                Andrei from Chelyabinsk 27 January 2021 16: 05
                0
                Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                analysis of this nonsense is needed

                I don’t think so. This will not help you, but everything is clear to the rest.
  3. 3danimal
    3danimal 26 January 2021 16: 50
    +2
    a vivid example of the defeat of the Merkav equipped with KAZ were struck by Cornets, Bassoons ... why ... they say they were not included ... why were not included

    Excuses. There were examples when air defense systems on ships were turned off (for better communication via satellite) and an old anti-ship missile system was received on board.
    Some here even suggested returning to the armor like a cruiser (you can't turn it off).
    Fact: when the KAZ is working, RPG / ATGM are not dangerous. Isolated cases are just exceptions, confirming the general practice.
    On the other hand, KAZ does not help against a 0,5-ton land mine. smile
  • 3danimal
    3danimal 25 January 2021 23: 40
    +1
    tandem grenades that break any armor

    Not any. Yet the Cornet is not as efficient as possible.
    Due to its design (the ability to increase the caliber), it has great potential for modernization.
    And again, not superior to the RPG-29.
    and in the case of the MiG-31 ... against the background of the adoption of fundamentally new weapons schemes, the 31st generally had unique opportunities

    Visible from afar on the radar, cannot evade a missile attack by maneuvering (Max G 5g). "Zaslon BM" has noticeably worse characteristics in comparison with "Irbis" Su-35.
    Deprecated. Better to build and maintain more Su-35.
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 26 January 2021 08: 19
      -2
      Not any. Still, the Cornet is not up to the efficiency ..... normally holds out, especially since the cornet has only one version of the warhead. and is sharpened for the defeat of armored vehicles, while the seven in the tank can and TBG shmalnut, and the weight of the cornet is hefty
      And again, it does not surpass the RPG-29 ...... but this is how you look ... in the equipped condition, the 29 weighs under 20 kg and has a length of under two meters. that is, in principle, it is possible to immediately shmalnu from the shoulder, but it is ineffective, especially the vampire, due to the mass and difficulty in reloading, needs nosebleed second number, the wearable ammunition load of the 29-ki no more than three shots ... let's sum up ... He especially needs a second number, a fighter can independently reload it, depending on the type of grenades, he is able to carry a 7 kg grenade launcher itself and, depending on the shooting range, from 6 to 5 grenades, .. if necessary, a seven can provide the entire compartment .. that's it
      now on the topic .... waxes normal overload at the MiG-31 9Zh .. phased radar Zaslon is quite enough to see targets in the signature 0.01 at a distance of 200 km, especially since the 31st works in one team with the over-the-horizon radar ..... and the main factor ... in view of the enormous length of the borders and the impossibility of covering it with the MiG-31 air defense systems, this gap partially bridges due to the cruising speed of 2500 km per hour, let me remind you that the cruising speed of the Su-35 barely exceeds 1 sound and only 5 flies on the afterburner. 8 minutes ........ you do not really keep the borders of your vast homeland, while the MiG-31 will be in the right place and at the right time easily and naturally
      1. 3danimal
        3danimal 26 January 2021 17: 22
        +1
        phased radar Zaslon is quite enough to see targets in a signature of 0.01 at a distance of 200 km

        It is a lie, even the "Belka" on the Su-57 does not possess such declared characteristics. Links to the studio (not to Avia.pro).
        wax normal overload for the MiG-31 9Zh

        Evidence, links ??
        Let me remind you that the 31st is "slightly" larger than the Su-27.
        cruising speed 2500 km per hour, let me remind you that the cruising speed of the Su-35 barely exceeds 1 sound

        Links to the afterburner supersonic MiG-31 2500 km / s smile How will you change your shoes, then?
        1. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 27 January 2021 15: 28
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          Links to the studio (not to Avia.pro) ..... to the manufacturer's website, go for it
          Evidence, links ?? to the manufacturer's website.
          Let me remind you that the 31st is "slightly" more than the Su-27 ...... nothing to do with the mass, the developer indicates the overload in accordance with the strength inherent in the design and after sea trials gives the set parameters to the customer ...... and so the figure is indicated there 9, again, go to the manufacturer's website, everything is white for the Russians ... and besides, the military-technical press indicated a case of the MiG-31 at 11 F ... the pilot temporarily lost consciousness, the glider slightly compressed, but thanks to the automatic control system on the 31st, everything ended well
          and I would recommend you not to climb sites but go to a good library and rummage in technical magazines
        2. 3danimal
          3danimal 27 January 2021 19: 46
          +1
          the developer indicates the overload in accordance with the strength laid down in the design and after sea trials gives out the set parameters to the customer ... ... and so the number 9 is indicated there, again, go to the manufacturer's website

          Here is the manufacturer's website, it says 5g
          So where did you get the rumors about 9g? smile
          would I recommend you

          I didn't drink to brotherhood with you, I didn't baptize children, so we keep our distance.
    2. 3danimal
      3danimal 26 January 2021 21: 20
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      normally holds out, especially since the cornet has only one version of the warhead. and is sharpened for the defeat of armored vehicles, while the seven in the tank can and TBG shmalnut, and the weight of the cornet is hefty

      There is a TB shot for the Cornet;
      It has a larger caliber - 152mm (the "older" version), a larger caliber - more penetration of the kum. ammunition;
      Hefty weight is the ATGM smile
      1. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 27 January 2021 15: 30
        0
        For Kornet there is a TB shot; ... I didn't know ... the question then, why does he need it ..
        A fair weight - it's ATGM .... I answered my opponent who brought the Kornet ATGM as an alternative to the RPG-7
      2. 3danimal
        3danimal 27 January 2021 19: 41
        0
        For Kornet there is a TB shot; ... I didn't know ... the question then, why does he need it ..

        To destroy dugouts and other shelters with enemy manpower. The cornet is supposed to be put on the technique.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 25 January 2021 08: 23
    0
    Moreover, if you initially think about when designing a fighter.
  • ZEMCH
    ZEMCH 25 January 2021 10: 00
    0
    Believe me, they will start building and the plane will be, and the pilots will be trained))) while we keep what we have)))
  • Eldorado
    Eldorado 24 January 2021 17: 16
    +14
    On the IntYrnet, you can easily find the drawings of the Death Star! wink
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 24 January 2021 20: 09
      +7
      Quote: El Dorado
      You can safely find the drawings of the Death Star!

      And the Star Destroyer is produced by our "Star" on a scale of 1: 2700. yes
      1. 3danimal
        3danimal 26 January 2021 17: 29
        +2
        These are the things you need to build, and not every little thing laughing
  • figwam
    figwam 24 January 2021 17: 38
    +1
    In the program "Military Acceptance" they filmed a plot in the OKB im. A.M. Cradle, and so there were models of aircraft for which they create engines, from the whole row there are two models of aircraft that do not exist at the moment.



    20:02 minutes
    1. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 24 January 2021 17: 55
      +27
      Quote: figvam
      from the whole series, two models of aircraft that do not exist at the moment.

      1. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 24 January 2021 18: 09
        +11
        Quote: figvam
        from the whole series, two models of aircraft that do not exist at the moment.

        1. figwam
          figwam 24 January 2021 18: 37
          -2
          Bad_gr

          You are not careful, the small model is not like any other airplane in the world.
          1. Eug
            Eug 24 January 2021 21: 53
            +3
            The small model is very similar to the Su-56 project.
            1. Eug
              Eug 25 January 2021 00: 34
              +1
              Fucked up, not the Su-56, but the C-56.
          2. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 24 January 2021 23: 55
            +2
            And all the same, there are 31 handsome people who are piloted by happy people. Only astronauts fly faster than them. Some states are full of gas and in a couple of minutes already in another state. I am proud that a lot of tallons (although all refrigerators were full) in those days, but such a miracle was done! hi drinks
      2. businessv
        businessv 24 January 2021 18: 10
        +1
        Nice car! God grant that she can fly without problems and take off as quickly as possible!
        1. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 24 January 2021 18: 13
          +6
          Quote: businessv
          Nice car! God grant that she can fly without problems and take off as quickly as possible!

          He's his, most likely flew off - this is the MiG-1.44, they predicted in the aircraft of the 5th generation.
          1. businessv
            businessv 24 January 2021 19: 35
            +5
            Quote: Bad_gr
            He's his, most likely flew off - this is the MiG-1.44

            But it was his design codification, like the T-50 of the SU-57, can they continue? I am far from aviation, I just do not want the MiG Design Bureau to bend!
            1. Bad_gr
              Bad_gr 24 January 2021 19: 47
              0
              Quote: businessv
              can they continue?

              I did not come across information on this topic.
          2. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 25 January 2021 00: 00
            0
            I am far from aviation, but the air intakes of the engines will be visible from the lower hemisphere in the IR range, unless of course they are cooled.
      3. figwam
        figwam 24 January 2021 18: 34
        -3
        Bad_gr

        No The MiG-1.44 is 17.5 meters long, the Su-27 family is 22 meters long, and this model looks equal to or larger than the Su-27 model.
      4. Prax1
        Prax1 24 January 2021 18: 45
        -16%
        One big minus ... no S-shaped air intake ducts
        1. loki565
          loki565 24 January 2021 21: 01
          +6
          One big minus ... no S-shaped air intake ducts

          S-shaped air intake channels are the last century, now they use anti-radar grilles)))
          1. Prax1
            Prax1 24 January 2021 22: 08
            -18%
            Well, yes, the Americans put these grilles on their planes of 4 generations ... The grilles are just the last century. And without the s-shaped, the plane is not suitable for modern warfare. So Russia does not need such an aircraft. And the su-57 raises questions. Wasn't it possible to do it normally ...
            1. Mikhail Tynda
              Mikhail Tynda 25 January 2021 00: 15
              +2
              Oh, guru, teach! I pray!
            2. Reviews
              Reviews 25 January 2021 11: 59
              0
              Quote: Prax1
              Well, yes, the Americans put these grilles on their 4 generations of aircraft ...

              ... just like the S-channels, actually.
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  • Pechkin
    Pechkin 24 January 2021 18: 18
    +16
    as if it was deliberately thrown, or information leaked, perhaps not by accident!
    I found such drawings here.
  • paco.soto
    paco.soto 25 January 2021 02: 45
    -1

    Strange cons - googling per second. Video caption:

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    MiG-41 (PAK DP) capable of fully replacing the existing MiG-31 interceptor




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  • Nikolay Ivanov_5
    Nikolay Ivanov_5 24 January 2021 17: 12
    +3
    Dare, create better than anyone else, as there should be no limits for our producers in creating the impossible.
  • Avior
    Avior 24 January 2021 17: 13
    +7
    ... It is assumed that air-to-air missiles will be located in the inner compartments of the combat aircraft.

    And why is this interceptor? To increase the size and weight, unless
    Or just a tribute to fashion?
    1. The popuas
      The popuas 24 January 2021 17: 32
      +14
      Explosive missiles ... in modern terms are smaller than missiles of this type 30 years ago ... plus placement in internal compartments, a decrease in resistance ... correspondingly increasing the range ... and the signature of the aircraft decreases ... some pluses in two words. ...
      1. Avior
        Avior 24 January 2021 17: 45
        +7
        He believed that for the interceptor the EPR issue is a very secondary matter, he does not conduct air combat and does not attack ground forces.
        And the presence of compartments forces the aircraft to be made larger, and still there is limited ammunition. Pa more self-yo - more resistance and more weight
        The rocket itself has an aerodynamic shape and is designed for speeds much higher than the carrier
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 24 January 2021 19: 00
          0
          Until the dimensions become clear, it is difficult to say something.
        2. Reviews
          Reviews 24 January 2021 20: 24
          +5
          Quote: Avior

          The rocket itself has an aerodynamic shape and is designed for speeds much higher than the carrier

          Pylons, interference, local structural reinforcements for the suspension of pylons, which the high-speed pressure tends to pull out of the attachment points ... All this increases resistance and mass. EPR is also not indifferent to the interceptor - the later the target sees it, the less chances it has.
        3. The eye of the crying
          The eye of the crying 24 January 2021 20: 26
          +1
          If the interceptor will intercept a conventional AWACS aircraft, then stealth will be very useful to him (the interceptor).
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    2. Andrey.AN
      Andrey.AN 24 January 2021 17: 39
      +12
      Reduce air resistance, hide the composition of weapons from observers, from the mechanical and thermal effects of the incoming flow, missiles that are expensive for them to serve almost as long as an aircraft, only without repair.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 24 January 2021 18: 12
        +2
        Will the future MIG 41 have any problems with firing missiles from internal compartments at such speeds? hi
        1. Andrey.AN
          Andrey.AN 24 January 2021 18: 26
          +4
          You can instantly reduce the speed by turning, probably beyond the strike line it is very high unnecessarily.
    3. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 24 January 2021 17: 52
      +9
      Quote: Avior
      And why is this interceptor? To increase the size and weight, unless
      Or just a fashion statement

      First, suspended missiles take away speed and range.
      Secondly, if there are speed parameters comparable to its predecessor, there will be problems with suspended missiles - they heat up at such speeds ...
      With all its filling ... It would be better to hide it "in the tummy" ...
      1. Andrey.AN
        Andrey.AN 24 January 2021 18: 06
        +9
        Yes, there is not only heating, ice and flame, then dampness, then freezing with the expansion of ice in all the cracks, then a stove and this is all in a vacuum, then under pressure. And this can be so many times in terms of service life.
    4. askort154
      askort154 24 January 2021 18: 07
      +9
      Avior...And why is this interceptor? To increase the size and weight except perhaps Or just a tribute to fashion?

      So that before the launch line on the target, it does not shine like a "chandelier" for it. And all the flight characteristics of the "pure" are much better than those with external "suspensions". hi
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 24 January 2021 17: 22
    0
    Work, brothers! yes
  • storm
    storm 24 January 2021 17: 30
    +6
    To neutralize the US B-21, the new MiG-41 will very soon be required
    1. faiver
      faiver 24 January 2021 18: 09
      +6
      Soon Mi-41 will not be available, Mi-31 will have to be dispensed with
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 24 January 2021 19: 06
      +3
      The B-21 will be subsonic, like the B-2.
      It's easy to catch up with them. The Su-35 can handle it easily.
      It is more difficult to detect them with radars.
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 24 January 2021 20: 09
        +8
        Quote: voyaka uh
        The B-21 will be subsonic, like the B-2.
        It's easy to catch up with them. ...
        I can assume ...
        A large area of ​​responsibility and patrolling is planned for the interceptor. Speed ​​will be needed to cover a long distance to the target, and attack it before "dropping the load".
        мир
        We are for a peaceful sky yes
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 24 January 2021 21: 06
          +5
          For this you need a cruising supersonic. Otherwise, you will drop all the fuel on the afterburner,
          before you get close to the target - the bomber.
          That is, we need powerful, but economical engines.
          ---
          How was the MiG-25 planned to be used? - frenzied dash on afterburner
          to B-52 - knocked down an adversary. The task is completed. No fuel - goodbye ...
          1. cat Rusich
            cat Rusich 24 January 2021 21: 21
            0
            Quote: voyaka uh
            For this you need a cruising supersonic. Otherwise, you will drop all the fuel on the afterburner,
            before you get close to the target - the bomber.
            That is, we need powerful, but economical engines.
            ---
            How was the MiG-25 planned to be used? - frenzied dash on afterburner
            to B-52 - knocked down an adversary. The task is completed. No fuel - goodbye ...

            Engine with cruising supersonic needed (I hope they make such an engine), the conversation began about the very need supersonic interceptors - at long distances in the air defense zone, such an interceptor is needed, the question is - "How will it be made and how much time will be spent on it (and how much" despicable metal "will be spent on it and how much the plane will cost), what will be the series." recourse
            you give 150 pilots
            soldier
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 24 January 2021 21: 30
              +5
              If the Su-35 is not a hundred plus, as now, but at least 300-400, then they
              it is quite possible to carry out interceptions. With good communication with each other
              and ground-based radars.
            2. Andrey.AN
              Andrey.AN 25 January 2021 00: 31
              0
              I'll try to illuminate from a different position, cruising supersonic. For the MiG-31 it was like that. Here the kinetic energy of the machine is fighting the air resistance. There is an initial thrust and an end thrust. Suppose the initial thrust accelerates the titanium turbine, it does it quickly, the engine is instantly responsive, but the final thrust does not accelerate much. But if the initial thrust drives a heavy turbine of the same dimensions made of tungsten and carbides, with a uranium shaft, then the kinetics of this turbine is different, the responsiveness of the engine is braked, but reaches much higher revs. The choice is simple, but what do you need? After all, you don't have to steam with the turbine, the plane is heavier, for kinetics, you are wearing a MiG-31. And for the tasks of a fighter, to work in accompaniment or in pursuit of transonic targets, with air combat around these subsonic targets, the responsiveness of the engines is needed.
      2. Shopping Mall
        Shopping Mall 24 January 2021 21: 28
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        The B-21 will be subsonic, like the B-2.
        It's easy to catch up with them. The Su-35 can handle it easily.
        It is more difficult to detect them with radars.


        It will be easy to catch up, it will be difficult to shoot down if they are completely filled with active self-defense systems.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 24 January 2021 21: 34
          +3
          In the seeker of explosive missiles, it will inevitably have to add a video system in addition to
          active radar. And this greatly complicates the design of the seeker.
      3. bk0010
        bk0010 24 January 2021 21: 53
        +5
        Quote: voyaka uh
        It is more difficult to detect them with radars.
        Especially for this, a long-wave radar was installed on the Su-57.
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 24 January 2021 17: 37
    -1
    The problem of armament of the MiG-41 is in the existing problems of this project ... Will the air-to-air missiles with a range of hundreds of kilometers make the MiG-41 "formidable and irresistible"? - "Grandma said in two!" With a range of hundreds of kilometers, the flight time of this weapon increases! The more missiles are launched from a greater distance, the more time the enemy will have to prepare and take countermeasures! Hence, it is assumed that the expected RVV should not be "hukhry-muhry"; hypersonic and stealth! It is not easy to make these, but at the same time, a 100% solution to the "undetectability and non-interception" of such weapons is not guaranteed! If it is possible to ensure radar "invisibility", then it will be necessary to solve the problem of reducing the thermal signature of the ammunition with a "long-term" operating ramjet engine ... Long flight time also plays against hypersound; since it is possible to use a "swarm of mini-interceptors"! There are options for solving the problem of the timely detection of hypersonic ammunition ... while the greater the distance, the better ...
    1. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock 24 January 2021 19: 49
      +4
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      With a range of hundreds of kilometers, the flight time of this weapon increases! The more missiles are launched from a greater distance, the more time the enemy will have to prepare and take countermeasures!

      Just the exact opposite.
      The missiles fly much faster than the carrier aircraft and have an order of magnitude less RCS.
      Therefore, if there are no long-range missiles, the interceptor must approach the target itself. Firstly, it will spend more time on it, and secondly, it will be detected much earlier, even before the launch of its missiles, i.e. the target will have much more time to react.
  • nikolai55soot
    nikolai55soot 24 January 2021 17: 40
    0
    Vo recalled the MiG-25 P at refueling - Sokolovka airfield 530 iap: MiG-31 BM at refueling
  • rocket757
    rocket757 24 January 2021 17: 54
    0
    When will it be .... we'll wait, then we'll see.
  • Ingenegr
    Ingenegr 24 January 2021 18: 03
    +10
    What is the article about?
  • faiver
    faiver 24 January 2021 18: 09
    +3
    Why are these intermediate notes about anything?
  • 7,62x54
    7,62x54 24 January 2021 18: 10
    +6
    Modern OCD in Russia is a convulsive study of the legacy of the USSR and adaptation to the requirements of the RF Ministry of Defense.
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 24 January 2021 19: 04
      +6
      Thank God it's gone.
    2. Quadro
      Quadro 24 January 2021 23: 01
      +4
      Modern US OCD is a convulsive study of the legacy of the Cold War and adaptation to the demands of the US Department of Defense.
      1. 7,62x54
        7,62x54 25 January 2021 06: 08
        0
        Have you seen enough of Solovyov again?
        1. Quadro
          Quadro 25 January 2021 07: 42
          0
          Quote: 7,62x54
          Have you seen enough of Solovyov again?

          Just a little - stink about Solovyov and the zomboy.
    3. Mikhail Tynda
      Mikhail Tynda 25 January 2021 00: 20
      +2
      [Quote] Modern OCD in Russia is a convulsive study of the legacy of the USSR and adaptation to the requirements of the RF Ministry of Defense. / Quote] No, it's even a convulsive study of the legacy of the Wright brothers!
  • yehat2
    yehat2 24 January 2021 18: 12
    +1
    if the pack dp comes down to just updating the aircraft filling without any new ideas, then it will not be work, but hack.
  • bk0010
    bk0010 24 January 2021 18: 14
    +1
    With the existing radar, R-37 and second stage engines, the Su-57 can perform interceptor missions, I see no need to create a new interceptor.
    1. hydroy
      hydroy 24 January 2021 18: 29
      +2
      There is a need to create, at least for competition in the aircraft industry, and yet, these are completely different vehicles with the Su-57, the Su-57 sky conqueror fighter, the MIG-31 long-range interceptor, the construction of machines, the layout and material are completely different! Having received the Su-57, they do not refuse from the MiG-31. But the MIG-31 is clearly visible on the radar, and the MIG-41 should be supplemented with STEALTH technologies!
      1. EMMM
        EMMM 4 February 2021 00: 00
        0
        I would say STEALTH construction, tk. weighting technologies for such a device are not needed in principle. Its estimated speed is higher than the speed of the missile weapons in service with a potential enemy. And if the aircraft is equipped with a comprehensive airspace control system, it will easily get away from potential danger, which is unlikely due to the tasks initially assigned to the interceptor.
        1. hydroy
          hydroy 4 February 2021 00: 40
          0
          There, in addition to the increased speed, its work in near space is also laid with the ability to shoot down low-flying satellites, which is also important. Well, STEALTH technology is now a priority) We are waiting for the project and its implementation)
    2. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 24 January 2021 18: 37
      0
      And Su35S too ..... and even cheaper, because secrecy is not needed.
      1. bk0010
        bk0010 24 January 2021 21: 55
        0
        By the way, yes.
    3. Alex777
      Alex777 24 January 2021 19: 10
      +2
      As far as I understand, the MiG-41 differs from the Su-57:
      1. The radius of action (with refuelers we know that),
      2. Speed ​​(they promise that one and a half times). hi
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 24 January 2021 22: 06
        0
        And if you increase Su57 and AWACS in pieces and refuel? It will be cheaper?
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 24 January 2021 22: 37
          +3
          The question is not how cheaper to do something, but what tasks they set for the MiG-41, IMHO. hi
          What if he will go into near space and sell satellites? wink
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 24 January 2021 22: 43
            -5
            Nothing will happen ... because it is not necessary
      2. Andrey.AN
        Andrey.AN 24 January 2021 23: 53
        +1
        They are as different as the landing force from the ground forces. They solve the problem, like in baseball, when you need to quickly take the base, after the results of previous actions are displayed.
    4. Eug
      Eug 25 January 2021 00: 53
      +1
      It cannot - the time of reaching the interception line will be long, and the interception line is desirable before dividing the target, i.e. before the missiles are launched. As for me, the optimal scheme is the reduced Tu-160 with two editions. 30. Somewhat modified, it will fit in the MPA, as for me, they will still be revived, this is the only type of weapon suitable for an inter-theater maneuver in the realities of the Russian Federation.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 24 January 2021 18: 18
    0
    Well, it was already sucked today, which will be repeated. fellow
  • Ruslan Sledkov
    Ruslan Sledkov 24 January 2021 18: 30
    +2
    This is how it was said a few years ago that work on MIG41 had begun. And now, not even the stage of the project, but OCD? What have you been doing for so many years? Did you write TK?
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 24 January 2021 18: 36
    -3
    This is a stillborn program ...... at best, it is an upgrade (deep) ... MiG31 .... out of stock.
    1. faiver
      faiver 24 January 2021 19: 41
      +4
      there will be a day and there will be food, but for now it is a transfusion from empty to empty ... hi
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 24 January 2021 20: 20
        -5
        There is no point in a unique aircraft ... if everything can be fit into a single apparatus
        1. faiver
          faiver 24 January 2021 20: 26
          +5
          The question is, is it possible? And is it necessary?
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 24 January 2021 18: 54
    0
    The 41st seems to be a rapid response satellite interceptor.
    1. EMMM
      EMMM 3 February 2021 23: 47
      0
      It looks like
  • Ruslan Sledkov
    Ruslan Sledkov 24 January 2021 18: 55
    +1
    Maybe MIG41 will go out of the atmosphere into space like the X-37B? Then it won't be just an aircraft interceptor. But this is a very bold decision.
    1. EMMM
      EMMM 3 February 2021 23: 45
      0
      Since we are talking about the use of a ramjet, which implies the presence of air in the flight zone of the aircraft, space clearly does not shine for it. But with the appropriate weapons, low-orbit targets can be intercepted.
  • U-58
    U-58 24 January 2021 19: 04
    -2
    Implementation is not soon, but the main thing is to bring it to the finish line.
    And then it will suddenly be like with the MiG 1.44 - "chief executives" from the UAC were allowed to make one flight and rejected the idea of ​​an outstanding aircraft. To the delight of SU. As a result, we have a very incomprehensible SU-57, which differs from its predecessors only in its prohibitively high price and unclear prospects.
  • AC130 Ganship
    AC130 Ganship 24 January 2021 21: 38
    0
    It remains to be hoped that he will not be the twin brother of the Mig25 - Mig31 programs, and Sukhoi will unfasten some money for his younger brother so that he does not starve to death. The last serial Mig was developed in the late 70s of the last century.
  • AC130 Ganship
    AC130 Ganship 24 January 2021 21: 43
    0
    As far as I know, no country in the world is currently spending money on a pure interceptor concept. Very narrow specialization and a lot of money. MULTIROLE tactical fighter - something like the concept of Su27 - Su35 - this is how the aircraft industry is developing around the world
    1. bk0010
      bk0010 24 January 2021 21: 57
      +6
      Quote: AC130 Ganship
      As far as I know, no country in the world is currently spending money on a pure interceptor concept.
      These countries do not have the task of repelling an attack by US strategic aviation. But yes, an F-22 type aircraft will quite cope with the tasks of the F-14 (not counting the naval specifics).
    2. EMMM
      EMMM 3 February 2021 23: 38
      0
      As I understand it, all self-respecting countries have created services that can preserve the integrity of the state under any circumstances. Paying attention to the fact that as a result of all the shocks, Russia has remained a state that is reckoned with and that is feared. And the decision to develop such a design is not within the competence of the UAC or even the Aerospace Forces and the Ministry of Defense.
  • Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 24 January 2021 22: 11
    +4
    What to argue then?
    There are plenty of promises. As well as draftsmen and cartoons.
    You can remember Starting from the previous trampolines and reaching the Moon by 2015, through the recent super-speed - 700 km - helicopter with triangular wings, up to 3D pictures of the MiG-41.
    Already with hypersound, with lasers, and under-radars ..
    ...
    No one remembers the initial requirements of the 6th generation - near space and a swarm ...
  • Old26
    Old26 24 January 2021 23: 37
    +5
    Quote: Thrifty
    On the Internet, if you make a joke, you can find information about flight speed, combat radius, flight altitude, weapons, as if a thrust was deliberately made, or information was leaked, perhaps not by chance! hi

    You can find anything on the Internet. Dump. The car is still only at the stage of ROC, but everything is already known: speed, radius, etc.

    Quote: El Dorado
    On the IntYrnet, you can easily find the drawings of the Death Star! wink

    Not only "Death Stars" and ships of the Empire and the Republic, but also images of all types of ships indicating the performance characteristics of both the Kingdom of Manticore and the People's Republic of Haven

    Quote: Ruslan Sledkov
    This is how it was said a few years ago that work on MIG41 had begun. And now, not even the stage of the project, but OCD? What have you been doing for so many years? Did you write TK?

    And the work begins with the writing of the technical specification, the development of a draft and preliminary design, then it comes to research and development and finally R&D. Everything takes time. Especially knowing the "love" of our MO on the go sometimes change TTT

    Quote: evgen1221
    The 41st seems to be a rapid response satellite interceptor.

    And what for to make such a highly specialized aircraft. After all, except for satellites in low orbit, he will not get anything else. It is easier and more efficient to make a ground-based missile to intercept a satellite
  • Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 25 January 2021 00: 43
    +1
    The MiG-41 will also use low-signature technology, its speeds will be even higher than that of the MiG-31, engines are more economical, and missiles are more long-range.

    The main task of the MiG-41 will be the destruction of enemy support aircraft - AWACS aircraft, fuel tankers, reconnaissance aircraft and electronic warfare aircraft, that is, everything that flies far from the front line and that is difficult to get with a conventional fighter due to the shorter range of itself, its missiles and less speed, but of course he can also attack ordinary fighters.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 25 January 2021 08: 25
    0
    If the passenger supersonic business is brought to mind, then they will receive a turbojet engine for a long supersonic flight. And materials. Then, you can come up with an interceptor.
  • Alexey Zigalov
    Alexey Zigalov 25 January 2021 10: 23
    0
    Another money laundering. They will be designing for 10-15 years. Aviation will be different in 5-7 years.
  • DrEng527
    DrEng527 25 January 2021 17: 24
    0
    and is it not a scattering of forces and means? can better modify the Su-57 in the form of an interceptor?