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Chinese Media: Russia's Liberal Opposition Shows Both Failure and Dependence

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Foreign media continue to comment on the protest actions that took place with varying degrees of mass and activity in different regions of Russia. At the same time, comments on the "protests in support of Navalny" are often diametrically opposed in meaning, based on whether the publication or expert of which particular country publishes a particular assessment.


In the Chinese media, overwhelmingly negative assessments have been voiced against those who were involved in inciting people to take to the streets. China News associates the January 23 protests in Russia with the Hong Kong protests. In particular, it recalls how the Chairman of the State Duma of the Russian Federation from the parliamentary rostrum delivered a speech about Western interference in the affairs of foreign states, citing as an example the American support for the Hong Kong protests. The aforementioned Chinese newspaper writes that the American embassy has in fact openly supported the protests in Russian cities. It is difficult to imagine what would have happened if the protests in the United States had been supported by Russian and Chinese diplomatic missions.

The Chinese portal Sohu publishes an article stating that the liberal opposition to Russia has shown both its failure and its lack of independence.

Sohu:

If you've seen these protests, even on the screen, you will easily notice that the violent methods were primarily used by the protesters themselves. They attacked the traffic police (DPS), sprinkled pepper gas in the eyes of law enforcement officers, beat them with sticks, and even ran into policemen in cars. There were also smoke bombs. At first they attacked the police, now they say that they themselves were hurt.

But the Ukrainian authorities see in the protesters on the eve in Russia "freedom fighters". The statement of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine is cited, which in fact openly supported Navalny and the protests.

MFA of Ukraine:

Ukraine strongly condemns the violence against peaceful protesters and the detention of members of the Russian opposition.

However, not all Ukrainians are unanimous in this regard. A considerable number of those commenting on the protest actions in the Russian Federation note that "apparently, in Russia someone really wants to get freedom in Ukrainian - with European tariffs and Bangladeshi salaries."

One of the users:

They shouted "Russia without Putin". Then they'll go straight to us - to Kiev. After all, Ukraine today is Russia without Putin. And these oppositionists also do not have any intelligible program, like our authorities. There is only one program - to shout, make some noise ... But "think" - no, it's not for them.
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  1. Crowe
    Crowe 24 January 2021 15: 52
    +43
    In the Chinese media, overwhelmingly negative assessments have been voiced against those who were involved in inciting people to take to the streets.

    Tiananmen is remembered.
    1. Cowbra
      Cowbra 24 January 2021 15: 58
      +1
      Quote: Crowe
      Tiananmen is remembered.

      What for? This is the last century, in Singapore they did without blood - and everyone was dispersed in the bins. So it is here. Why shoot them? The biggest harm from them is that the road was blocked.
      1. Pechkin
        Pechkin 24 January 2021 16: 00
        +11
        What the Chinese did in Singapore, maybe in Hong Kong.
        1. Cowbra
          Cowbra 24 January 2021 16: 04
          0
          Ah, or Hong Kong ... Lately, there have been so many funny pseudo-revolutions. that you can't remember everything. All the more so, and there is nothing to remember, a bunch of paid idiots will gather, get horned, and scatter through their holes. like cockroaches. As far as I remember, in Singapore, like recently, too, was a bucha?
          1. Pechkin
            Pechkin 24 January 2021 16: 09
            +15
            As far as I remember, in Singapore it seems like recently, too, was a bucha?
            No, it is prohibited in Singapore laughing ... It's generally strict there.
            1. military_cat
              military_cat 24 January 2021 16: 19
              -11%
              Bucha recently is in Korea, probably. The Korean president found a fortune-teller friend with a personal fund in the amount of something in the region of one-twentieth of the size of the fund of cellist Raldugin. Millions of Koreans went to Gwangwamun, the president of the village sat for a long time, and the Koreans chose another president (they did not have the question "if not her, then the cat?")
              1. Stirbjorn
                Stirbjorn 24 January 2021 16: 22
                +29
                Quote: military_cat
                Millions of Koreans left, the president of the village sat for a long time, and the Koreans chose a new one (they did not have the question "if not her, then the cat?")

                Savages, what to take from them wassat
                1. Deck
                  Deck 24 January 2021 17: 07
                  -48%
                  In China, the General Secretary of the CPC Central Committee does not receive gifts in the form of palaces; there they are shot in packs. In Singapore, all corrupt officials have long been removed. The economy is growing by leaps and bounds both there and there. By the way, like the Koreans. So your anti-Putin examples are somewhat ridiculous. They remembered the wrong countries. Let's talk about Zimbabwe, here is our topic
                  1. Alexander Seklitsky
                    Alexander Seklitsky 24 January 2021 17: 35
                    +40
                    did he personally tell you this? Or did the oval give you all the layouts about world leaders who get what and in what volumes? This castle is already 10 years old, this is firstly, secondly, you show me an official document where this estate is listed on the Putin
                    1. Deck
                      Deck 24 January 2021 18: 06
                      -38%
                      The Chinese build two destroyers a year, we are not able to build one. That's the whole point, and palaces and thieving friends are the other side of the coin.
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                      2. Deck
                        Deck 24 January 2021 21: 42
                        -16%
                        According to Rossiyskaya Gazeta, since 2000, about 10 thousand officials have been shot in China for corruption, and another 120 thousand have received 10-20 years in prison. Here, and Navalny is not needed. But this turn of affairs does not suit the local putriots. Wicked one word.
                      3. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 24 January 2021 22: 53
                        +1
                        Quote: Deck
                        But this turn of affairs does not suit the local putriots.

                        Almost 12 thousand people were convicted in Russia last year for corruption crimes. This was announced on Thursday by the official representative of the Prosecutor General's Office, Alexander Kurennoy, on the video service of the Efir supervisory agency.
                        https://rg.ru/2019/03/21/za-god-v-rf-osudili-12-tysiach-chelovek-za-korrupcionnye-prestupleniia.html
                      4. Xnumx vis
                        Xnumx vis 24 January 2021 23: 17
                        -6
                        Quote: Deck
                        According to Rossiyskaya Gazeta, since 2000, about 10 thousand officials have been shot in China for corruption, and another 120 thousand have received 10-20 years in prison. Here, and Navalny is not needed. But this turn of affairs does not suit the local putriots. Wicked one word.

                        You, my dear, remember that a stick is always with two ends ... And it hurts anyone. And if with executions, then it is generally not known who will be the first to hit the wall ... After the Revolution, all the old (real) Bolsheviks were shot ... Well, except for those who washed the owner's socks ... in exile .... Learn to wash strangers socks!
                      5. Deck
                        Deck 25 January 2021 07: 41
                        -8
                        After the Revolution, all old (real) Bolsheviks were shot


                        I just read on VO that the repressions were insignificant, and most of the repressed were swindlers and embezzlers. And it turns out there it is.
                      6. Xnumx vis
                        Xnumx vis 25 January 2021 09: 38
                        0
                        Quote: Deck
                        After the Revolution, all old (real) Bolsheviks were shot


                        I just read on VO that the repressions were insignificant, and most of the repressed were swindlers and embezzlers. And it turns out there it is.

                        They write a lot and as they please ... to love oneself not to respect the owner ... Take and re-read ... Well. at least "Memories and Reflections" by Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov ... There it is laconically written how many and when the old Bolsheviks and commanders were shot .. And history is shyly silent about the common people who died from collectivization and industrialization ...
                      7. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 25 January 2021 19: 20
                        0
                        Quote: Deck
                        and most of the repressed are swindlers and embezzlers

                        And one does not interfere with the other. This is in Soviet films - a Bolshevik means a hero and unmercenary, but in life it is not a fact.
            2. 2 Level Advisor
              2 Level Advisor 24 January 2021 23: 37
              -11%
              those. while the property is not written GDP, then he is not in business? you can find the no-fly zone R-116 yourself .. and? who can afford to establish such a zone over the estate? Your options, Alexander?
              1. Alexander Seklitsky
                Alexander Seklitsky 25 January 2021 02: 57
                +17
                Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                you can find the no-fly zone R-116 yourself .. and?

                Why is it not very flightless. The drone flies freely on it and these two clowns hang out on the boat near the coast. Do you seriously think that the FSO is such laymen? You try to launch a drone where there is really Putin. Where is his real residence. You will be very quickly figured out and rolled up and your drone will be shoved somewhere.
              2. military_cat
                military_cat 25 January 2021 03: 32
                -17%
                Yeah, "we would like no one to fly - no one would fly." These counterarguments are based on faith alone.
              3. Ka-52
                Ka-52 25 January 2021 04: 45
                +12
                like your little hamster faith. So parity yes
              4. military_cat
                military_cat 25 January 2021 04: 57
                -13%
                Not quite.

                In the first case, I see a statement and video footage with satellite images confirming this statement.
                In the second case, I see the opposite statement, but as the basis - only faith and emotions.
              5. Ka-52
                Ka-52 25 January 2021 05: 05
                +15
                approval and video footage with satellite imagery confirming this statement.

                and what is there on the satellite images - in large letters laid out "this is Putin's dacha"? laughing
                but the basis is only faith and emotion.

                well, with your package of "evidence" the same thing - one faith and emotions
                ps faith in Navalny's "facts" ended after his fantastic resistance to chemical warfare agents such as "Novichek". After that, even if he shows a photo of naked Putin on the beach, he has no faith. State Department six
              6. Drummer
                Drummer 25 January 2021 05: 09
                +2
                This is a local churchkheloi merchant who has saved up.
              7. military_cat
                military_cat 25 January 2021 05: 32
                -15%
                Quote: Ka-52
                ps belief in Navalny's "facts" ended after his fantastic resistance to chemical warfare agents like "Novichek".
                When the banker Kivelidi was poisoned by a "newcomer" in 95, the officers who examined his office were hospitalized with poisoning, but did not die. They are probably also the "six of the State Department" and therefore simulated non-lethal poisoning by the "newcomer".
              8. Ka-52
                Ka-52 25 January 2021 05: 39
                +7
                the staff who examined his office were hospitalized with poisoning, but did not die.

                yeah, tell that to Kivelidi, his secretary and the pathologist who opened the body. They in the next world love to laugh at such vitality of Leshenka and the faithful belief in this of his hamster guard laughing
              9. military_cat
                military_cat 25 January 2021 05: 41
                -11%
                So the employees who examined Kivelidi's office and were poisoned by the "novice", but did not die - did they exist or did not exist?
              10. Ka-52
                Ka-52 25 January 2021 05: 47
                +12
                So the employees who examined Kivelidi's office were poisoned by the "novice", but did not die - did they exist or did not exist?

                I repeat once again for those who have problems reading the text in Russian: when they wanted to poison Kivelidi, he was POISED! DEATH! He died. Has ceased to be alive. Went to the next world. His body has ceased to function biologically. Two more people died with the trailer. Is it getting there? Or else your brain poisoned by training manuals cannot break this barrier?
                And on the other, more often the scales are Navalny. Who survived from an alleged attempt at poisoning with the alleged same poison.
                Do you understand the difference? Kivelidi is dead, but Navalny is alive and well. And the poison is the same.
              11. gsev
                gsev 26 January 2021 02: 46
                0
                Quote: Ka-52
                And on the other, more often the scales are Navalny. Who survived from an alleged attempt at poisoning with the alleged same poison.

                For more than 20 years, have chemists in Russia not been able to improve special poisons by making them more difficult to detect, or have they not tried to do so? After all, the events in Great Britain showed that the specialists there were quite quickly able to track the results of his actions.
              12. Ka-52
                Ka-52 26 January 2021 04: 47
                +2
                After all, the events in Great Britain showed that the specialists there were quite quickly able to track the results of his actions.

                with a high degree of probability, the British were able to find traces of the newcomer because they themselves put him there. IMHO it was a provocation, everything looked too stupid for a special operation. The beginner's developer screwed it abroad back in the 90s, so the formula was no secret for the West
              13. gsev
                gsev 27 January 2021 15: 28
                0
                Quote: Ka-52
                the British were able to find traces of the newcomer because they themselves put it there.

                Do you believe that for the sake of provocation with dubious goals, the British demonstrated to all defectors from Russia that it is dangerous to flee to the UK? If the British government, for the sake of such a provocation, knocked down one British citizen and made a citizen a disabled woman, even if these are poor people begging in the garbage, then what is the likelihood that Her Majesty's opposition does not use this as an excuse to discredit the ruling party, even after its victory in the elections through 10 years?
              14. Ka-52
                Ka-52 28 January 2021 04: 40
                +1
                The news story with the accusation of "bloodthirsty and mean Russians" in a chemical attack in the heart of Britain will outshine any others.
              15. gsev
                gsev 28 January 2021 08: 52
                0
                Finding a reason is no problem. There would be a reason for action.
                Quote: Ka-52
                The news story with the accusation of "bloodthirsty and mean Russians" in a chemical attack in the heart of Britain will outshine any others.

                At one time, Great Britain attacked Greece when its merchant was offended. For a similar reason, she fought with Burma. In the USA, for example, they used a simple test tube as an excuse and did not even bother filling it. But the fear caused in the camp of possible defectors still justifies all possible sanctions after the problems of London inmates.
  2. bk316
    bk316 26 January 2021 11: 40
    +1
    When banker Kivelidi was poisoned by a "newbie" in 95

    Firstly, he was not hounded by a novice - the whole clinic is different.
    Secondly, check it out, the sledak just went into the office, a few days later (!), And went to the intensive care unit. That is, the trailblazers are analogous to those who flew in an airplane and cleaned up the hotel. Something no one there in the intensive care of the passengers and cleaners did not get.
    And then they poured it into tea and poured it into panties and at least horseradish. laughing

    So you have shown your FAITH, not logic.
    I will not say that this is bad, it is simply pointless to argue with believers about the subject of faith.
    So write "I BELIEVE LESHA AND THE STATE DEPARTMENT"
  3. military_cat
    military_cat 26 January 2021 12: 02
    -1
    Yes, I double-checked the story with Kivelidi and I agree that there is no direct reference to "Novichok" in his case, it says about "OV constituting a state secret."

    Does your faith do that?
  4. SOF
    SOF 25 January 2021 09: 10
    +6
    Quote: military_cat
    Yeah, "we would like no one to fly - no one would fly"
    ... yes, Putin has a palace ... there is ... a huge ... ... with churches ... with towers ... a real fortress - the Kremlin is called ... And there are many drones flying there ..... "uninvited"? ....... lol
  5. 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 25 January 2021 08: 15
    0
    Its implementation is another question, but it is .. official .. you can google it .. therefore, in general, your remark is correct and for me it is also strange, but the essence of what I wrote does not change and you did not answer my question ..
  6. Akuzenka
    Akuzenka 25 January 2021 15: 43
    +2
    those. while the property is not written GDP, then he is not in business? you can find the no-fly zone R-116 yourself .. and? who can afford to establish such a zone over the estate? Your options, Alexander?
    This is your property - my option and you cannot convince me.
  7. 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 25 January 2021 16: 00
    0
    You know, here one comrade has already described the peculiarity of the psyche of many people, namely: if you have all the norms for life, then in order to build a pleasant picture of the world, everything must also have norms around ... and whoever does not have norms, it is I was okay, I could .. so in this case, at least a count on your head .. even show a photo, at least show documents, you will not convince a person, because at the same time his comfortable attitude will suffer, editing, fake, etc. will say.
    That is why I cannot and will not even try. it is USELESS and I understand it .. hi
  8. Akuzenka
    Akuzenka 26 January 2021 10: 44
    0
    Eck you whipped yourself.
  • Alexey Polyutkin
    Alexey Polyutkin 25 January 2021 03: 40
    -18%
    Nobody will show you this, but the familiar FSO schnik often works there. This is definitely Putin's dacha. By the way, before the elections, FSOshniki sat in the same place at Putin's dacha and filled out left-handed bills. It is clear that not at the dacha itself, but nearby. Well, a question for you to fill in: which businessman is guarded by the FEDERAL SECURITY SERVICE?)))
    1. psiho117
      psiho117 25 January 2021 04: 19
      +14
      Quote: Alexey Polyutkin
      ... a familiar FSO shnik works there ...
      before the elections, the FSO officers were sitting there at Putin's dacha and filling out leftist bills ...

      Wow! But I’m not telling anyone that I built a dacha for Yanukovych, and then repaired it - they won’t believe one fig, though it’s true.
      But to the "acquaintances of a friend of the FSOshnik" on the Internet - we certainly believe, they stamped tons of ballots there, it's a fact - infa sotochka!
    2. English tarantas
      English tarantas 25 January 2021 07: 01
      +8
      friends of a friend of the FSO

      This is the husband of the "officer's daughter" laughing
  • Ural resident
    Ural resident 25 January 2021 04: 21
    -5
    I agree, I have been resting there in Krinitsa for 10 years in a row. I saw how it all began to build. In the film, the main thing is not said, in addition to all the palaces - this zone is closed for ordinary people, and part of the village was simply evicted. In the intervals between the vineyards and the cottage, the plots were taken by the approximate ones. Fences are put up and roads are built, but they simply will not be allowed into the forest. In general, the best part of the coast becomes the personal territory of 10 people. But this does not mean that I am right behind Navalny.
  • Andrey Krasnoyarsky
    Andrey Krasnoyarsky 25 January 2021 13: 12
    +3
    And after the third bottle of vodka, your friend told me that aliens regularly fly to Putin's dacha - they are green and with horns. They bring there filled-in ballots (by the way, Alexey, look how this word is spelled according to the rules of the Russian language) and aluminum cans with Novichok gas. At the beginning of the fourth bottle, an acquaintance said that Putin turns into a flying elephant at night and goes to the area of ​​the Beta Swan star, where he has another palace with a total area of ​​six square light years.
  • poquello
    poquello 24 January 2021 17: 37
    +9
    Quote: Deck
    In Singapore, all corrupt officials have long been removed. The economy is growing by leaps and bounds both there and there.

    I have been hearing how it grows for a long time, when will it grow then?
    1. Deck
      Deck 24 January 2021 21: 49
      -12%
      Yes, it has grown already: the area of ​​the territory is 0.0041% of the territory of Russia, or ridiculous 710 sq. km), the population is 3.4% of the population of Russia, or 5.3 million people, the GDP of Singapore, a tiny island without gas, oil or gold, is 14% of the GDP of the Russian Federation. That is, we can say that one Singaporean has 13.25 times more goods and services produced. But our president is cool - 20 years old, and everything is like new.
      1. poquello
        poquello 24 January 2021 21: 55
        -3
        Quote: Deck
        there are 13.25 times more goods and services produced per Singaporean.

        great! and in real goods? on Rublevka they say they live well, but in Singapore it is not heard. Alexandra Ivanovich's loins?
      2. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 24 January 2021 22: 05
        +4
        Quote: Deck
        Yes, it has grown already: the area of ​​the territory is 0.0041% of the territory of Russia, or ridiculous 710 sq. km), the population is 3.4% of the population of Russia, or 5.3 million people, the GDP of Singapore, a tiny island without gas, oil or gold, is 14% of the GDP of the Russian Federation. That is, we can say that one Singaporean has 13.25 times more goods and services produced. But our president is cool - 20 years old, and everything is like new.
        Lee Kuan Yew - 1st Prime Minister of Singapore July 3, 1959 - November 28, 1990
        2nd Senior Minister of Singapore November 28, 1990 - August 12, 2004 Minister Mentor August 12, 2004 - May 21, 2011 ... Member of Parliament from Tajong Pagar District until March 29, 2015 - then Lee Kuan Yew "moved to heavenly Singapore." soldier
      3. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 25 January 2021 02: 45
        0
        Singapore sits on a much more expensive resource. Any state with such a geographic location would be successful. And if you are not aware then any of the local fighters against the regime would howl from the existing orders there. When you are just punished for spitting on the street that you never dreamed of.
      4. Drummer
        Drummer 25 January 2021 05: 17
        0
        The contrast with neighboring Malaysia and Indonesia is evident. The DPRK and South Korea can also be remembered. It's not just about resources.
      5. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 25 January 2021 05: 59
        0
        it is in them. Whether the North had such opportunities, they either won them long ago or they themselves changed. Any successful country has something that everyone needs. Singapore took the lesser route. Having a wild transit resource just adjusted to everyone. Well, it makes no sense to compare with us. We ourselves will go mad from such a path. Although it is very possible.
  • Ka-52
    Ka-52 25 January 2021 04: 52
    +7
    Yes, it has grown already: the area of ​​the territory is 0.0041% of the territory of Russia, or ridiculous 710 sq. km), the population is 3.4% of the population of Russia, or 5.3 million people, the GDP of Singapore, a tiny island without gas, oil or gold, is 14% of the GDP of the Russian Federation.

    anyone who thinks with his head and not with manuals will be able to understand that Singapore does not have territories that are not economically viable. Let's hang 13-15 million square kilometers on Singapore and see how they become prosperous. They will go broke on only one communications. But people still live there. They need to create acceptable living conditions. When you wave your cap with an armored car, then at least sometimes break away from the training manual. Otherwise, literate people only cause laughter
  • Pechkin
    Pechkin 25 January 2021 09: 00
    +1
    And what territories do you consider not profitable, where people live. And why do you think that they could not find a use for them.
  • Ka-52
    Ka-52 25 January 2021 09: 08
    +1
    And what territories do you consider not profitable, where people live.

    open the map of Russia, find a list of dated regions and overlay it on the map. Tyva, as you like, is suitable from 168 sq. Km, slightly less than Italy) is in the bottom of the world, there from the nearest millionaire - more than 604 km. This is 800 times the circumference of the island of Singapore laughing And to make Tuva profitable .... well, suggest how)) I really doubt it
  • Pechkin
    Pechkin 25 January 2021 15: 14
    +1
    Open the map of Russia, find a list of dated regions and overlay it on the map.
    Well, this is not serious, you really think that Moscow feeds the Krasnoyarsk Territory (subsidized region). For example, the region collected more than 2018 billion in taxes in 800, almost 600 billion went to the federal budget and about 40 billion returned in the form of subsidies, etc. Excellent food, only who will whom. No need for subsidized regions. Also the practice of registering large companies in Moscow, St. Petersburg and paying taxes there. It is difficult for the regions to develop in such a situation; they have to beg every penny in the center. There are really unprofitable regions, but there you need to deal with each case individually.
  • Ka-52
    Ka-52 26 January 2021 04: 33
    0
    Well, this is not serious, you really think that Moscow feeds the Krasnoyarsk Territory (subsidized region).

    I told him about Tuva, and he told me about the Krasnoyarsk Territory. Did you read my previous comment or do you have tunnel vision? And how many taxes has Chukotka collected in your rating? What do you choose conveniently? Tear off the list and go from top to bottom - what's at the top of the list? Chukotka with its tundra and deer? Dagestan with its rocks and mountaineers? Deal with it individually - try to suggest your own version. How do you see the development of Tuva and the achievement of the break-even level by this region? Will you try to make the Tuvans work? I'll tell you right away - a dead idea. Ask your neighbors - in Khakassia. So anyone can say that Tuvans love to drink, fight and mess around. And only Russians work there. Everything there is supported by subsidies. And the mining industry will not stretch the region. Come on, dream up. Blalalah about "we will build a garden city" I heard enough at school.
  • Pechkin
    Pechkin 26 January 2021 15: 45
    +1
    Chukotka with its tundra and deer?
      lol With its gold, silver, etc. The largest gold miner there is Chukotka GGK (owned by the Canadian Kinross Gold and Roman Abramovich is digging a little, even the famous non-silverman was the governor). Yes, 50000 thousand inhabitants of Chukotka gobble up Russia, taking into account how much is mined there. I used the Krasnoyarsk Territory as an example because I live there.
    So anyone can say that Tuvans love to drink, fight and mess around.
    Why are you talking about Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu (he was born in Tuva, father Kuzhuget Serevich).
    Dagestan with its rocks and mountaineers?
    And there is a huge corruption and clannishness, which the locals are not very happy about. Do you think that Singapore went to Lee Kuan Yew without traditional Asian corruption, drug trafficking, etc. , he put things in order there not only with a kind word. Maybe the central government needs to gather its will into a fist and tackle the problems of the regions, rather than dividing oil and gas revenues and foreign policy. And what has the city garden to do with it, it can try to bring order to the country.
  • Ka-52
    Ka-52 27 January 2021 05: 15
    +1
    With its gold, silver, etc. The largest gold miner there is Chukotka GGK (owned by the Canadian Kinross Gold and Roman Abramovich is digging a little, even the famous non-silverman was the governor). Yes, 50000 thousand inhabitants of Chukotka gobble up Russia, taking into account how much is mined there.

    in your alternate universe, should all Kinross Gold profits go to the PAO budget? Do you even have the slightest idea of ​​how and where the budget of federal subjects is formed?
    I used the Krasnoyarsk Territory as an example because I live there.

    I also live there, but for some reason I don't strive to write any nonsense
    Why are you talking about Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu (he was born in Tuva, father Kuzhuget Serevich).

    I know where Shoigu was born and this largely explains the generous funding of the region. But Shoigu's nationality does not make the rest of Tuvans any better - they are the way I described them. So trying silly sarcasm you failed
    And there is a huge corruption and clannishness, which the locals are not very happy about.

    what nonsense ... I don't need to portray Navalny here. Singapore is located at the crossroads of all trade routes in Asia. Plus a seaport, which only promotes trade. Plus a high population density. The Singapore government really needed only to create favorable conditions for business and it began to develop rapidly. In Dagestan, you will at least break - it is difficult to develop anything there. It is not a junction of international trade routes. And with the international port as it was not lucky. And with population density. And with the industry, which is 85% of federal orders. About "it is necessary to defeat corruption and gather will in a fist" you better shout at rallies. And I'd better show something more earthly.
  • spolo
    spolo 26 January 2021 11: 21
    0
    Ok, Vasya has a family of 6 children, and the Petrovs have 1 fool, tell me who lives better
  • cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 24 January 2021 20: 40
    +8
    Quote: Deck
    In China, the General Secretary of the CPC Central Committee does not receive gifts in the form of palaces; there they are shot in packs. In Singapore, all corrupt officials have long been removed.
    Pertti - so bluntly and say - "Give communism until 2022" or as in Singapore "Dictatorship of well-being" ...
    In China or Singapore, Navalny and up to 10-15% of his "supporters" who came out to "protest" SUPPLY TO WALL
    Quote: Deck
    there such packs are shot.
    soldier
    1. Deck
      Deck 24 January 2021 21: 52
      -9
      Have you signed up for me, cat, as a secretary-interpreter? Extensive experience in a wide range of secretarial duties?
  • Odessa Greek
    Odessa Greek 24 January 2021 21: 11
    +11
    My friend, why go so far? Let's remember the main elven "democracy" how many daddy son of Biden was collecting dough for BAAAl's daddy sleepy Joe? laughing Or can you be exceptional ???? Yes, and the 2011-2012 naphthalene plum about the palace, which the specialists organized exactly on the day of Lyoshka's arrest in "antidote panties" can only be taken at face value by naive dreamers good
    1. psiho117
      psiho117 25 January 2021 04: 46
      +2
      Quote: Odessa Greek
      Or you can be exceptional

      This is not a matter of exclusivity, and not even of democracy lol
      In these difficult days for the Imperium, when the vile contagion of Nurgle continues to roam with impunity among the subjects of the Emperor, by an emergency decree of the Lords of Terra, popular gatherings were prohibited - and anyone who does not obey this decree - is an irresponsible element, and a possible accomplice of Chaos.
      Therefore, the Administratum made the only correct decision - by the forces of the Adeptus Arbites to stop the unauthorized actions of the minions of the Destructive Forces.
      It is noteworthy that our valiant Arbiters, May God the Emperor bless them, showed rare mercy, using only power batons during the dispersal - and not water cannons, armored cars, stun guns, tear gas or grenade launchers and weapons with rubber bullets.
  • Mikhail Tynda
    Mikhail Tynda 24 January 2021 23: 48
    0
    Probably Zimbabwe, is it YOUR topic?
  • English tarantas
    English tarantas 25 January 2021 06: 55
    +4
    Well, "like in Ukraine" I don't want to live, but "like in Korea" all the more so. And God forbid to live "like in Singapore" ... I don’t know about China, but I think too many people work there not for 8 hours.
  • Pechkin
    Pechkin 24 January 2021 16: 26
    -4
    military_cat I like the way you think. And about Lee Kuan Yew too.
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 24 January 2021 17: 00
    0
    They are already in the colony ruled mainly by Fashington, and these are still full zeros.
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 24 January 2021 17: 10
    0
    Quote: military_cat
    "if not her, then a cat?

    Do they already have cats for president? In principle, right, he won't steal much.
    1. poquello
      poquello 24 January 2021 17: 40
      +10
      Quote: Mordvin 3
      Do they already have cats for president?

      cats for the presidency can be chosen in the usa and dill, the owners of cats still rule
    2. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 24 January 2021 23: 22
      +2
      Quote: mordvin xnumx
      Quote: military_cat
      "if not her, then a cat?

      Do they already have cats for president? In principle, right, he won't steal much.

      And toads, and female dogs, pigs, heifers, everyone can! only not every SSH P will be approved ... It is necessary to lick SSH P ...
    3. English tarantas
      English tarantas 25 January 2021 07: 07
      +2
      will not steal much.

      I don’t know, I don’t know, my thief was still and so impudently stole, not even from the table, but straight from the stove.
      In any case, the sour cream will disappear from the shelves.
  • Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 17: 12
    -8
    ... The Korean president found a fortune teller friend with a personal fund in the amount of something in the region of one twentieth

    We have more scale. And the crowd of "fortune-tellers" is bigger and fatter. And generally speaking:
    Tea, not any storage,
    To overthrow governments ... ©
  • lucul
    lucul 24 January 2021 20: 54
    +1
    they did not have a question "if not her, then a cat?")

    So she is still a talking head - South Korea is a puppet state.
  • military_cat
    military_cat 24 January 2021 16: 10
    +5
    Lee Kuan Yew was in Singapore. He was a great man. I once said this: “I had two paths. The first is to steal and take friends and relatives into the Forbes lists, while leaving their people on the bare ground. Second, it is to serve your people and bring the country to the top ten of the best countries in the world. I chose the second ... "
    1. Revival
      Revival 24 January 2021 17: 04
      +3
      Hmm ..
      And some chose the first
      1. military_cat
        military_cat 24 January 2021 17: 06
        +7
        I remember there was a joke about this.

        "I also had two paths, but the second was already chosen by Lee Kuan Yew."
        1. Revival
          Revival 24 January 2021 17: 21
          +1
          Well, here yesterday the thought was strenuously pushed that they say "for such merits at least one hundred trillion and a thousand yachts" is possible, it's not our business
          1. military_cat
            military_cat 24 January 2021 17: 54
            -8
            For me, let him have already taken his aquadiskotheque for health, retired and provided an opportunity for the institute of change of power to work normally. But this will not happen, because from a pension, even a presidential one, it is simply physically impossible to maintain all this ridiculous colossus of his. Well, for the sake of always having fresh dirt in the mud storage, and in the aquadiskotheque - clean chlorinated water, above the roof - a no-fly zone, and in the toilet - a special order brush, he will control us all the way.
            1. Siberian
              Siberian 25 January 2021 08: 27
              +4
              a tiny correction: there is no dirt storehouse, the complexity of translation from the English language by the Navalnovsky guard. This is apparently a hallway (no dirt), but you can take off your dirty shoes there.
              Leha should already live a calm family life, eat oatmeal in the water without salt in the morning, then pancreatitis would not happen ("newbie" - is it because for the first time?), Would sit in a cell, he would be provided with a diet, rest and work. And nothing would have happened to him, and he would not have been deported from Germany. So, in any case, the local security forces are to blame, they overlooked, the pacifists are shitty.
      2. Stas157
        Stas157 24 January 2021 17: 46
        -15%
        Quote: Revival
        Hmm ..
        And some chose the first

        Zaputintsev is quite satisfied with the first here.

        And what is characteristic, all the time stubbornly asked the same question - what is bad in Russia ??
        Say, our yards are packed with cars, and everything else against this beautiful background is not even worth discussing!
        1. Installer
          Installer 24 January 2021 20: 44
          +8
          if you think that in America and Europe there is no social difference, corruption and homeless people, then you are wrong.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 24 January 2021 21: 44
            -1
            Quote: Installer
            if you think that in America and Europe there is no social difference, corruption and homeless people, then you are wrong.

            What does America-Europe have to do with it?
            1. Revival
              Revival 24 January 2021 22: 16
              +2
              And for some reason the urapatriots nod there all the time, especially if you copy something bad and, like in a cool mirror, also deepen
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 24 January 2021 22: 55
                0
                Quote: Revival
                And for some reason urapatriots nod there all the time,

                But the whiners always shout that everything is bad with us, but there. And by the way, there was corruption in the USSR too.
              2. Revival
                Revival 24 January 2021 23: 51
                +2
                Yes, I don't really care if there is corruption in the United States or elsewhere, was it in the USSR, etc.
                I am opposed to it being huge and open to chaos
              3. Dart2027
                Dart2027 25 January 2021 19: 16
                -1
                Quote: Revival
                I am opposed to it being huge and open to chaos

                Are you proposing to abandon the state as such?
              4. Revival
                Revival 25 January 2021 22: 03
                +3
                I correctly understood that according to your state = huge and undisguised corruption !?
              5. Dart2027
                Dart2027 26 January 2021 19: 26
                -1
                Quote: Revival
                what do you think the state is = huge and undisguised corruption

                And what was once a state without corruption? Really? Those who are at the top will always remember their loved ones. Exceptions just prove the rule. That is life.
                As for "huge and undisguised to the point of lawlessness," this is a classic method of information warfare, when some really existing things begin to inflate with the help of a PR campaign, so that their importance is exaggerated tens, if not hundreds of times.
              6. Revival
                Revival 27 January 2021 02: 00
                +2
                I have no more questions, we have nothing to discuss with you and there is no need
              7. Dart2027
                Dart2027 27 January 2021 19: 43
                0
                Quote: Revival
                I have no more questions

                Expected.
                Almost 12 thousand people were convicted in Russia last year for corruption crimes. This was announced on Thursday by the official representative of the Prosecutor General's Office, Alexander Kurennoy, on the video service of the Efir supervisory agency.
                https://rg.ru/2019/03/21/za-god-v-rf-osudili-12-tysiach-chelovek-za-korrupcionnye-prestupleniia.html
  • Ka-52
    Ka-52 25 January 2021 05: 00
    +5
    And for some reason the urapatriots nod there all the time, especially if you copy something bad and, like in a cool mirror, also deepen

    well, after all, liberoids also nod there when they want to give an example like it's good there, but we are eating the last root of a perennial herb
  • Revival
    Revival 24 January 2021 22: 14
    +1
    Well, everything got better ..
    Unlike you, I don't look there for every reason, there is enough local painting
  • Drugov
    Drugov 24 January 2021 17: 42
    -3
    The chairman of DNT Ozero took the first path.
  • lucul
    lucul 24 January 2021 21: 04
    -6
    “I had two paths. The first is to steal and take friends and relatives into the Forbes lists, while leaving their people on the bare ground. Second, it is to serve your people and bring the country to the top ten of the best countries in the world. I chose the second ... "

    Tales of grandmother Arina)))
    The Zionists run everything there.
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 24 January 2021 21: 18
    +3
    Quote: military_cat
    Lee Kuan Yew was in Singapore. He was a great man.

    But he does not specify who the investors were, who provided him with huge money, without which he would not have done anything.
    1. Revival
      Revival 24 January 2021 22: 17
      +1
      We have norms, especially buildings, enough money
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 24 January 2021 22: 52
        +3
        Quote: Revival
        We have norms, especially structures

        The process is gradually going on. I remember what was the hysteria around the Crimean bridge and nothing was built.
        1. Revival
          Revival 24 January 2021 23: 49
          +1
          Yes, only I'm not talking about those structures, but about those that are being built instead of schools and hospitals
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 25 January 2021 19: 18
            0
            Quote: Revival
            Yes, but I'm not talking about those structures

            Of course, you don't see that.
            Quote: Revival
            but about those who build instead of schools and hospitals

            And what is the actual number of places in schools and hospitals, taking into account what is being built?
  • Keer
    Keer 24 January 2021 23: 28
    0
    "We'll go the other way."
  • Cosm22
    Cosm22 24 January 2021 17: 17
    -16%
    What's the difference between Singapore and Hong Kong, right?
    Or Austria and Australia?
    To stuff your head with such little things ...
    But the phrase of the article "apparently, someone in Russia really wants to get freedom in Ukrainian - with European tariffs and Bangladeshi salaries" is curious.
    For it immediately raises a number of questions.
    What are good salaries in Russia? Maybe we, in terms of their level (not counting other indicators), have already fulfilled the promised - caught up at least the same Portugal?
    Yes, it seems not ... The average salary in Portugal after all taxes at the beginning of the year is about 1200 euros. Voiced by Rosstat (we will assume that it is not too far-fetched) the average for Russia over the past year is less than 400 euros, i.e. even up to a third of the Portuguese does not hold out.
    This is at a Portuguese minimum wage of 635 euros per month. I will not voice the Russian meaning, so as not to drive the readers into paint.
    For us to lose such wealth is, of course, a tragedy ... We have to hold on to it with our teeth.
    By the way, if we compare the Russian minimum wage with the level specifically in Bangladesh, then the difference is not so great - only 1,7 times. But this is hardly a worthy benchmark for comparison.
    1. kot423
      kot423 24 January 2021 17: 35
      +21
      Quote: Cosm22
      The average salary in Portugal after all taxes at the beginning of the year is about 1200 euros.

      Only you, as usual, show off on this site - you forgot the price tags in shops, utilities, etc. in Portugal indicate ...
      I find it funny about nasral and K, when they are the same songs that you sing, comparing the sn of France, Germany, etc. You were there? in Portugal, west. Europe, lived? And I was, and I can actually compare that my 35-40 rubles are enough for taxes, and for shops (for three) and for housing and communal services.
      PS Do not disgrace yourself, nasral and K are ALREADY a sacred victim like Nemtsov, material worked out for the west and mattresses (first of all) ...
      1. Cosm22
        Cosm22 24 January 2021 17: 43
        -21%
        Imagine was. In the same Portugal. Lucky. By the way, my friends IT specialists (guys are very talented) for some reason chose not Russia, but Portugal as their place of work.
        And for some reason they were not embarrassed by either the price tags or utilities.
        Miracles, huh?
        1. kot423
          kot423 24 January 2021 17: 46
          +15
          Quote: Cosm22
          By the way, my acquaintances of IT specialists (guys are very talented) for some reason chose not Russia, but Portugal as their place of work.

          Shame on yourself again ... Time to choose? 90s? Just do not drive bullshit now, that from 2010 to 2021, there is no need for IT specialists to do it, everyone is torn into a mattress.
          1. Cosm22
            Cosm22 24 January 2021 18: 58
            -3
            The time of choice is 2014-2017.
            Cases are not isolated.
            Last year, by the way, they even became more frequent.
            More questions?
            1. Prisoner
              Prisoner 24 January 2021 20: 13
              0
              What are the questions here? "Meli Emelya, your week". (from)laughing
      2. Stas157
        Stas157 24 January 2021 17: 54
        -15%
        Quote: kot423
        Do not disgrace, nasral and K are ALREADY a sacred sacrifice like Nemtsov, material worked out for the west and mattresses (in the first place) ...

        Why are you so worried about someone else's "shame"?
        1. kot423
          kot423 24 January 2021 17: 57
          +14
          Quote: Stas157
          Why are you so worried about someone else's "shame"?

          1. I didn’t drink at brotherhood with you = you’re just an uncultured person.
          2. I'm not worried, I just showed my point of view on the rotten attempts to scuttle the Russian Federation and punt to the west.
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 24 January 2021 18: 33
            -13%
            Quote: kot423
            I didn’t drink at brotherhood with you = you’re just an uncultured person.

            I think that it does not even shine for you))
            And about culture - well, no one to complain about it, using jargon and vulgarism in a public forum.
      3. Charik
        Charik 24 January 2021 21: 03
        -8
        Nasralny-vovku leaked-he is already tired of the whole world-just in Russia few people drain him-are afraid of the Newbie
    2. poquello
      poquello 24 January 2021 17: 44
      -1
      Quote: Cosm22
      But the phrase of the article "apparently, someone in Russia really wants to get freedom in Ukrainian - with European tariffs and Bangladeshi salaries" is curious.
      For it immediately raises a number of questions.
      What are good salaries in Russia?

      gnaw the calculator))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
    3. zwlad
      zwlad 24 January 2021 19: 12
      -4
      Are you ready to lose even this minuscule?
    4. Installer
      Installer 24 January 2021 20: 48
      +2
      And you, for the sake of interest, compare the ratio of communal apartments to wages in Germany and Russia. Be very surprised.
    5. Odessa Greek
      Odessa Greek 24 January 2021 21: 18
      +8
      You tell this to today's Ukrainians, they are in favor of returning to the income of 2013 for such liberal balabolians as you will quickly tear something on the German cross. And comparing Portuguese income without spending is a funny joke of liberal bedbugs who really want to return the 90s and suck on the budget themselves!
  • 210ox
    210ox 24 January 2021 17: 58
    +1
    It's strange to hear about Singapore. Have they gone mad with fat?
    1. Cowbra
      Cowbra 24 January 2021 18: 04
      +15
      Well, in general, Singapore has long held the title of the most totalitarian state on the planet.
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  • seregin-s1
    seregin-s1 24 January 2021 16: 37
    +3
    You must shoot! Not lead, but rubber. Otherwise, the security forces will feel unnecessary crap. And plant! Everyone is four years old, everyone who came out! The fact that they have no brains is their problem!
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 17: 22
      -2
      Quote: seregin-s1
      And plant!

      And with such what to do?
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 24 January 2021 17: 34
        +9
        to drive them out of their bodies, and judge ... unreasonable violence, possible serious injury at that age. People are not sports bags for practicing strikes, but protest from people not because of Navalny but because of distrust of the authorities.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 17: 45
          -10%
          Quote: aybolyt678
          possible serious injury at this age ...

          She's in intensive care.
          I myself am a former employee, I remember the rules for the use of special equipment. And there they beat with truncheons and recumbent, and on the head, and women and girls, and the cases are massive. I watched Moscow. It's just that the next time they will start killing the security forces. All this is wrong. It is necessary to plant indicatively and not only those who spoiled the FSB car. I am afraid that those who threw snowballs will be put in prison, and this will release everything on the brakes.
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 24 January 2021 17: 54
            +13
            She's in intensive care.

            "The woman who suffered at the uncoordinated rally in St. Petersburg is in a satisfactory condition and is ready to be discharged from the hospital," RIA Novosti was told in the city health committee.
            Earlier it was reported that the 54-year-old resident of Luga, who was traumatized as a result of the incident on Vosstaniya Square "during the suppression of violations of public order", was visited by the head of the Department of Public Order Protection of the GUMVD of Russia, Police Colonel Sergei Muzyka. On behalf of the GUMVD, he apologized to the woman. He stressed that forceful actions that go beyond the law are in any case unacceptable. A police spokesman promised to investigate the situation and, if necessary, provide assistance. "
            RIA News
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 18: 06
              -3
              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              "The woman who suffered at the uncoordinated rally in St. Petersburg is in a satisfactory condition and is ready to be discharged from the hospital," RIA Novosti was told in the city health committee.

              Today I heard that I was unconscious in intensive care, but that's not the point. The use of force must be proportional or it will end badly. And those who are guilty on both sides must be punished.
              1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Sidor Amenpodestovich 24 January 2021 18: 45
                0
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                The use of force must be proportional or it will end badly. And those guilty on both sides must be punished.

                I completely agree. But you can't keep track of everyone, and it is naive to rely on mutual conscientiousness and foresight. Therefore, similar and similar incidents, alas, are inevitable.
              2. loki565
                loki565 24 January 2021 21: 17
                +4
                I heard today that I am unconscious in intensive care

                Where do you get this misinformation ???
                The policeman who stabbed Margarita Yudin in the stomach in St. Petersburg came to her hospital ward with flowers.
                He said that on the day the rally was dispersed, he had a hard day and, allegedly, in five minutes he was flooded with gas. Plus the visor fogged up. And now it is a personal tragedy for him.
                Margarita forgave him.

                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 21: 52
                  -2
                  Quote: loki565
                  Where do you get this misinformation ???

                  Hit? Hit, it was like that. I hit it walking, with my foot, which is already prohibited by law (at least when I served it like that). In the rain at lunchtime, they said that she was in intensive care.
                  1. loki565
                    loki565 24 January 2021 21: 55
                    +5
                    In the rain at lunchtime, they said that she was in intensive care.

                    Well then, it is clear, the source inspires confidence)))
                  2. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 22: 03
                    +1
                    Quote: loki565
                    Well then it's clear the source inspires confidence

                    I agree that liberal sources are still "truth-lovers", but you can't do that anyway. You cannot hit in the head with a truncheon, you cannot hit those who are lying down, you cannot hit women, you cannot be chased by a crowd and beaten with a club. But it was, it was filmed, that's what outrages. Correspondents were periodically dragged to transport vehicles, why? Navalny is not my idol, but all the same, it's impossible with people. The perpetrators must answer both on the one hand and on the other.
                  3. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 24 January 2021 22: 59
                    +1
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    You cannot hit in the head with a truncheon, you cannot hit those who are lying down, you cannot hit women, you cannot be chased by a crowd and beaten with a club. But it was, it was filmed, that's what outrages.

                    MOSCOW, January 23. / TASS /. More than 40 law enforcement officers were injured during an unauthorized rally in the center of Moscow. This was reported to TASS by a source in medical circles.
                    https://tass.ru/proisshestviya/10531437
                    Something none of those who are here talking about the legality does not demand the punishment of those responsible.
                  4. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 23: 03
                    0
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    Something none of those who are here talking about the legality does not demand the punishment of those responsible.

                    I wrote
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    The perpetrators must answer both on the one hand and on the other.
                  5. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 24 January 2021 23: 09
                    +1
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    The perpetrators must answer both on the one hand and on the other.

                    Here are just some provoked riots.
                  6. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 23: 11
                    +1
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    Here are just some provoked riots.

                    It is not true, the same employees often behaved unworthily.
                  7. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 24 January 2021 23: 13
                    +1
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    Not true staff

                    So they provoked the riots? Or were they supposed to be whipping boys?
                  8. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 23: 16
                    +1
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    So they provoked the riots? Or were they supposed to be whipping boys?

                    They used force disproportionately. They beat the lying people, beat the women, beat them in the head with a truncheon, etc. It is illegal, they had no right to do so.
                  9. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 25 January 2021 19: 26
                    0
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    According to the law, the employee who hit the woman should have been jailed. And she did not walk in the crowd, but was generally on the sidewalk.
                    And literally crawled under my feet. And the employee went about his business - you never know who there rushes to him and for what purposes? There was nothing to climb, and if I climbed, then there is nothing to be offended.
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    They used force disproportionately. They beat the lying people, beat the women, beat them in the head with a truncheon, etc. It is illegal, they had no right to do so.
                    Yes, yes, yes, I have heard this song for years ... tsat, then from Libya, then from Syria, then from Ukraine, then from Belarus. I even heard about the field commanders whom the FSB special forces blew up abroad. In fact, all this is an almond affair with those who are trying to stage a coup.
                  10. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 25 January 2021 20: 07
                    +1
                    When you will already understand that the "liberda" is the Kudrins, Chubais, Grefs and other "best people" who are in power today. And the comparison with "Tien-Anmen" is not logically correct, since the "liberda" is already in power. It would be admissible to compare with "Tien-Anmen" if the State Emergency Committee brought the troops out into the street and dispersed the protesters.
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    Yes, yes, yes, I have been hearing this song for years ... tsat, now from Libya, now from Syria, now from Ukraine, now from Belarus.

                    Just watch the broadcasts from there, don't like "Rain" or "Matza's Ear", watch "Stalingrad", you can't call them liberals.
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    And literally crawled under my feet. And the employee went about his business - you never know who there rushes to him and for what purposes? There was nothing to climb, and if I climbed, then there is nothing to be offended.

                    And you tell your mother that if a woman interferes, you can kick her in the stomach. During my service, most likely they would have been imprisoned for this, well, they would have been thrown out of the organs for sure, and it would be good if I had gotten off with a convention. Don't you think about who will be in her place tomorrow? Maybe your relative or mother or daughter. Don't you think about it?
                  11. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 25 January 2021 20: 48
                    0
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    When you will already understand that the "liberda" is the Kudrins, Chubais, Grefs and other "best people" who are in power today.

                    Yes Yes Yes. We are not against the country / people, we are against the authorities. This is me, too ... for many years.
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    watch "Stalingrad"
                    And that the communists do not dream of the same coup, only with themselves at the head? A hundred years ago, they were also ready with anyone, but against the government, a school history course.
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    And you tell your mother that if a woman interferes, you can kick her in the stomach.
                    My mother was all right with her head and she would not have flooded there under any circumstances.
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    Maybe your relative or mother or daughter. Don't you think about it?
                    Another favorite song, even boring. Let's remember how many people died as a result of revolutions, at the beginning of the last century, and now? Do you want to bury your daughter or just know that she disappeared into an unknown place, so that even burying in a human way will not work?
                  12. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 25 January 2021 21: 47
                    +1
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    And you tell your mother that if a woman interferes, you can kick her in the stomach.
                    My mother was all right with her head and she would not have flooded there under any circumstances.

                    After all, it was not about where your mother would go or not, but about the fact that it is unacceptable to beat women. Moreover, it is illegal and the employee must answer for it, as well as those who used special means "improperly". Those provocateurs who rushed from behind at the police and so on should also answer. The law should be the same for everyone. And for Putin and for the last bum.
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    Let's remember how many people died as a result of revolutions, at the beginning of the last century, and now?

                    I'll tell you a secret, the capitalist revolution in Europe was accompanied by more than 500 years of wars. And before that there were other changes in economic formations, the same not bloodless, in particular from slaveholding to feudal, we will not touch the earlier ones. For what reason do you think that progress has stopped on the capitalist economic formation?
                  13. poquello
                    poquello 25 January 2021 23: 58
                    -1
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    Moreover, it is illegal and the employee must answer for it.

                    with what fright? First of all, it was illegal for this grandmother to be there, he reacted correctly - the grandmother was a danger
                  14. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 26 January 2021 09: 54
                    0
                    Quote: poquello
                    with what fright?

                    And from such that everyone should be equal before the law, from Putin to the last bum.
                  15. poquello
                    poquello 26 January 2021 18: 14
                    0
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    Quote: poquello
                    with what fright?

                    And from such that everyone should be equal before the law, from Putin to the last bum.

                    the fact that the grandmother broke the law you shyly omitted
                2. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 26 January 2021 10: 09
                  0
                  Quote: poquello
                  the grandmother was dangerous

                  Are you out of your mind at all? What danger could she pose? Re-read the rules for the use of special tools, it says in what cases they are allowed to be used. Kicking women is generally prohibited. If an employee has a special means, he must use it in cases stipulated by law, violated - the term. "To whom much is given, from that much will be demanded," under Stalin, this biblical principle was not forgotten. This is one of the reasons why the state under him was incomparably stronger than it is now.
                3. poquello
                  poquello 26 January 2021 18: 16
                  0
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  What danger could she pose?

                  spit, spray, detonate, whatever
                4. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 26 January 2021 18: 40
                  +1
                  Quote: poquello
                  spit, spray, detonate, whatever

                  again
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  Re-read the rules for the use of special tools, it says in what cases they are allowed to be used. Kicking women is generally prohibited. If an employee has a special means, he must use it in cases stipulated by law, violated - the term.
                5. poquello
                  poquello 26 January 2021 18: 46
                  0
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  Quote: poquello
                  spit, spray, detonate, whatever

                  again
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  Re-read the rules for the use of special tools, it says in what cases they are allowed to be used. It is generally forbidden to kick women... If an employee has a special means, he must use it in cases stipulated by law, if he violated the term.

                  straight as it is written)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))), shoes - special means?
                6. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 26 January 2021 19: 22
                  +1
                  Quote: poquello
                  straight as it is written)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))), shoes - special means?

                  With the availability of special equipment, it is necessary to use them, as it was before by law. And special means are used only in cases stipulated by the law, everything else is at least an excess. It is believed that a special tool, with its correct use, is less traumatic than everything else. But again, there are plenty of restrictions on its use.
  • poquello
    poquello 25 January 2021 23: 49
    -1
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    When you will already understand that the "liberda" is the Kudrins, Chubais, Grefs and other "best people" who are in power today.

    the essence of neo-communists? for the sake of their benefits are ready to shit next to bulk?
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    And you tell your mother that if a woman interferes, you can kick her in the stomach.

    hmm, it is much wiser and more correct to tell where to climb, I hope this grandma will be slapped with an administrative office - she specially came from Luga to throw herself under the boot
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 26 January 2021 10: 01
    0
    Quote: poquello
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    When you will already understand that the "liberda" is the Kudrins, Chubais, Grefs and other "best people" who are in power today.

    the essence of neo-communists? for the sake of their benefits are ready to shit next to bulk?

    And where are the neo-communists? After all, it was about the Potanin-Chubais and other oligarchs whose interests you protect.
    Quote: poquello
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    And you tell your mother that if a woman interferes, you can kick her in the stomach.

    hmm, it is much wiser and more correct to tell where to climb, I hope this grandma will be slapped with an administrative office - she specially came from Luga to throw herself under the boot

    That is, in your opinion, is it a good practice to kick women? I hope the employee who violated the law will be jailed.
  • poquello
    poquello 26 January 2021 18: 20
    0
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    And where are the neo-communists? After all, it was about the Potanin-Chubais and other oligarchs whose interests you protect.

    I am for what Russia is, was and will be, it was about bulk for which you are drowning, and according to remarks in general, you are drowning for the communists, that's what it turns out
    Quote: poquello
    the essence of neo-communists? for the sake of their benefits are ready to shit next to bulk?
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 26 January 2021 19: 09
    +1
    Quote: poquello
    it was about bulk for which you drown

    For "bulk" I have never drowned, do not drown and am not going to drown. Or is the equality of all before the law a "bully"?

    Quote: poquello
    and on cues generally drown for the communists,

    Do you think that only Navalny's supporters are drowning for the equality of all before the law? Navalny is voicing quite noble goals for himself. Another thing is that everyone understands that this is only a mask and populism. I understand perfectly well that after Navalny comes to power, there will be a new "privatization" with other interested parties, and I, like other "leftists", will make every effort to prevent him from falling into power. But these rallies were not only attended by Navalny's supporters.
  • Motorist
    Motorist 24 January 2021 22: 36
    +4
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    The use of force must be proportionate

    It's good that it's not inversely proportional! lol I, though not a mathematician, would say "necessary and sufficient." Well, so as not to ignore anyone, and so that everyone gets it.
  • poquello
    poquello 24 January 2021 18: 17
    +2
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    She's in intensive care.
    I am a former employee myself,

    about how, and maybe the "former employee" will tell what happened to her is that she is in intensive care?
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 19: 08
      -3
      Quote: poquello
      about how, and maybe the "former employee" will tell what happened to her is that she is in intensive care?

      And maybe somehow yourself? The video on YouTube is perfectly googled.
      1. MORDVIN13rus
        MORDVIN13rus 24 January 2021 19: 45
        +12
        only even the video on the tube is all cropped, focusing only on law enforcement. But what's strange is that never in any such video there is no beginning of the development of the situation, only its finale.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 19: 50
          -3
          Quote: MORDVIN13rus
          only even the video on the tube is all cropped, focusing only on law enforcement. But what's strange is that never in any such video there is no beginning of the development of the situation, only its finale.

          I watched the broadcast, it’s long, I don’t remember what, or "Matzo ear", or "Rain".
          1. MORDVIN13rus
            MORDVIN13rus 24 January 2021 19: 54
            +4
            and there that the whole broadcast on this grandmother was accentuated?
      2. Odessa Greek
        Odessa Greek 24 January 2021 21: 23
        -1
        So you are a former employee of what - Chop, or did you establish law and order with a radar in the bushes? wink
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 21: 25
          -1
          Quote: Odessa Greek
          So you are a former employee of what - Chop, or did you establish law and order with a radar in the bushes?

          For what purpose are you punching?
      3. poquello
        poquello 24 January 2021 21: 24
        +3
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Quote: poquello
        about how, and maybe the "former employee" will tell what happened to her is that she is in intensive care?

        And maybe somehow yourself? The video on YouTube is perfectly googled.

        I myself somehow watched this video several times - well, there is no reason for resuscitation! and how, googled already - why did she climb to interfere with the execution? the fighter is busy, leading a pretzel, is this grandmother Anna Karenina's name?
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 21: 30
          -2
          Quote: poquello
          the fighter is busy, leading a pretzel, is this grandmother Anna Karenina's name?

          That "pretzel" is 18 years old, probably, the deficit is still not involved in sports. Three of the National Guards could not cope? Interfered with by a 55 year old woman? Should I kick her casually? Do you think this is legal? Is it like a man?
          1. poquello
            poquello 24 January 2021 21: 38
            +3
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            Quote: poquello
            the fighter is busy, leading a pretzel, is this grandmother Anna Karenina's name?

            That "pretzel" is 18 years old, probably, the deficit is still not involved in sports. Three of the National Guards could not cope? Interfered with by a 55 year old woman? Should I kick her casually? Do you think this is legal? Is it like a man?

            "interfered"? she jumped out to him in the course of the movement, and it is also very likely that she jumped out as planned, because she looked unnaturally at the "director"
  • Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 22: 53
    +3
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    She's in intensive care.

    Come on, even on Kommersant FM, which is difficult to suspect of sympathy for the authorities, there was an audio clip with an apology from the boss's cop and her "no, no, I have no complaints."
    He made his way to the intensive care unit with riot police, eh?
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 23: 02
      -2
      Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Come on, even on Kommersant FM, which is difficult to suspect of sympathy for the authorities, there was an audio clip with an apology from the boss's cop and her "no, no, I have no complaints."
      He made his way to the intensive care unit with riot police, eh?

      I wrote above that at lunch the information was that she was in intensive care. I didn't see her myself)))
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  • AlexG83
    AlexG83 24 January 2021 18: 50
    +6
    Quote: aybolyt678
    and people's protest not because of Navalny, but because of distrust of the authorities

    But by their actions, they endanger the lives of all other people without asking their opinion, and undermine the situation in the country. For some reason, these rallies are approved in you understand which "friendly" countries, it says a lot. You can look at the obvious things, overseas our authorities are not happy, what else can I add?
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 24 January 2021 19: 02
      +4
      Quote: AlexG83
      But by their actions they endanger the lives of all other people without asking their opinion,

      mistrust of the authorities was born from the fact that no one asks the opinions of others. I personally lost my last confidence when the pension reform happened, and I am outraged by the course of "development" based on oil and gas pipes. A handful of people should not be allowed to own yachts that cost a large warship. The income gap is an indicator that something is wrong with the economy in Russia.
    2. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 19: 12
      +1
      Quote: AlexG83
      undermine the situation in the country

      Power by its actions itself undermines the situation in the country, much more than any bulk.
      1. Keer
        Keer 24 January 2021 23: 45
        0
        That is, continuing the chain of reflections, the authorities by their actions are leading the country to violence and a bloodbath, which obviously plays into the hands of Russia's enemies. So the government is the agent of the West, it turns out.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 23: 49
          -2
          Quote: Keer
          That is, continuing the chain of reflections, the authorities by their actions are leading the country to violence and a bloodbath, which obviously plays into the hands of Russia's enemies. So the government is the agent of the West, it turns out.

          Well, very briefly, the conclusion is fair.
  • yuliatreb
    yuliatreb 25 January 2021 05: 00
    -4
    The only sensible comment of all, you are all breaking into a piece of shit, you prove something to each other, you argue, some of them carry such nonsense as much as their hair stands on end in some places, Navalny is so hot on the side, people really came out to express their distrust of the authorities and that it's time tie this farce, and start thinking about the people living here, and not solve their selfish affairs.
  • loki565
    loki565 24 January 2021 17: 48
    -1
    And with such what to do?

    The police apologized to the victim, according to the press service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in St. Petersburg and the Leningrad region. An apology was made by the police colonel, head of the department for the protection of public order of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Sergey Muzyka. "He stressed that forceful actions that go beyond the law are in any case unacceptable."


    Read more at RBC:
    https://www.rbc.ru/society/24/01/2021/600d7b389a7947ac68c3b4c3
  • poquello
    poquello 24 January 2021 17: 49
    +1
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    And with such what to do?

    take as stuntmen
  • gurzuf
    gurzuf 24 January 2021 18: 03
    +10
    Probably the same as with doctors, lawyers, bankers, etc. who broke the law. Or disagree?
  • SSR
    SSR 24 January 2021 18: 31
    +11
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Quote: seregin-s1
    And plant!

    And with such what to do?

    No need to throw rams on the fan.
    Already the head of the department, and others Interior Ministry officers came to this poor woman and asked for forgiveness and apologized, which she accepted.
    I condemn an ​​employee who kicked a woman and, in general, anyone who kicked a woman, but I was not in his shoes and I do not know what he saw enough during the day, but they will deal with him.
    And you are simply fanning discord and aggression.
    This was announced by a spokesman for the press service of the Central Office of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for St. Petersburg and the Leningrad Region, reports TASS.

    “On behalf of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, Sergei Muzyka apologized to the woman. He stressed that forceful actions that go beyond the law are in any case unacceptable, ”said the representative.

    He clarified that we are talking about a 54-year-old resident from the Leningrad region, who was injured "as a result of an incident on Vosstaniya Square during the suppression of violations of public order."

    According to the Telegram channel Baza, 54-year-old Margarita Yudina was injured during the St. Petersburg rally. The Telegram channel Mash wrote that Colonel Muzyka came to the woman at the hospital and "apologized several times on behalf of the entire personnel," promising to investigate the situation and punish those responsible. According to Mash, Yudina accepted the apology

    This is with RBC.
    And I do not want our "trash" the fate of the Ukrainian Berkut and the passage on his knees.
    I apologize for the unnecessary emotions, but these chanting "shame of garbage in Russia", calmly walk with 12 iPhones and do not think that someone can simply snatch it out of their hands.
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 19: 32
      -2
      Quote: SSR
      And you are simply fanning discord and aggression.

      And this is in response to this comment.
      Quote: seregin-s1
      You must shoot! Not lead, but rubber. Otherwise, the security forces will feel unnecessary crap. And plant! Everyone is four years old, everyone who came out! The fact that they have no brains is their problem!

      I will not say anything about rubber bullets, a person simply has no idea what it is, but imprisoning for expressing dissatisfaction is too much in my opinion.

      Quote: SSR
      I condemn an ​​employee who kicked a woman and, in general, anyone who kicked a woman,

      I absolutely agree with you, it is impossible to beat women according to the law, but this was at this rally more than once. It doesn't matter that it is not sanctioned, you just have to be a man.
      Quote: SSR
      And I do not want our "trash" the fate of the Ukrainian Berkut and the passage on his knees.

      Among the employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, there are many decent people, and there are many scum, as well as in other professions. I don't want a Ukrainian scenario for Russia at all.
      Quote: SSR
      I apologize for the unnecessary emotions, but these chanting "shame of garbage in Russia", calmly walk with 12 iPhones and do not think that someone can simply snatch it out of their hands.

      It's not so simple, I watched the broadcast from Moscow, mostly yelled about Putin, yelled "Freedom to wate prisoners", and yelled about the police when they started beating people, and dragged them into police vans, and then all the same yelled about Putin and political prisoners. ...
      1. poquello
        poquello 24 January 2021 21: 32
        +4
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        I will not say anything about rubber bullets, a person simply has no idea what it is, but imprisoning for expressing dissatisfaction is too much in my opinion.

        yes, what a "expression of discontent", but they wrote that they watched the broadcast, continuous provocations, it was originally conceived as provoking riots
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 21: 37
          -4
          Quote: poquello
          yes, what a "expression of discontent", but they wrote that they watched the broadcast, continuous provocations, it was originally conceived as provoking riots

          There were no "continuous provocations", do not compose, I watched.
          1. poquello
            poquello 24 January 2021 21: 49
            0
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            Quote: poquello
            yes, what a "expression of discontent", but they wrote that they watched the broadcast, continuous provocations, it was originally conceived as provoking riots

            There were no "continuous provocations", do not compose, I watched.

            aha, straight from distant cities - a pretzel comes out, insults a policeman, insults the president and demands that he be arrested, maybe bonuses for arrest! from the organizers? Well, maybe not, okay, did they just miss the police with snowballs in the face? Didn't get into a fight - did you exercise?
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 21: 55
              0
              Quote: poquello
              aha, straight from distant cities - a pretzel comes out, insults a policeman

              I looked more at Moscow. And I already wrote that for the most part there were no provocations on the part of the protesters. And provocateurs, they have always been, at all times.
    2. sniperino
      sniperino 24 January 2021 20: 19
      +8
      Quote: SSR
      calmly walk with 12 iPhones
      Aha, disenfranchised. If Berkut's bosses had not tied his hands, there would not have been thousands of people killed, shelling of Donbass, economic devastation, lawlessness and zigging Natsiks. But in the West they would talk about the "bloody regime". We do not need all this, let them tell, a tongue without bones.
  • sniperino
    sniperino 24 January 2021 18: 53
    +15
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    And with such what to do?
    With those who prevent the escort of the detainee? In the United States, a woman did not even interfere with a Negro policeman, he simply shot her point-blank. Tiananmen was not looked at at all for sexual characteristics. Do you propose to bow before such? If you do not shoot, you can humanely kick out of the road, or a democratizer on a cuckoo, which is more painful, of course, and the consequences for it could be worse. If you want to start riots, you do not need to drag / let women and children into them, rake them yourself, without hiding behind the weak, if men.
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 19: 46
      -4
      Quote: sniperino
      With those who prevent the escort of the detainee?

      Who interfered with that? She didn't have time to ask anything. Do you think women should be kicked and beaten with clubs? Does your wife or daughter agree with your position? Mom must be proud of your "gentlemanly".
      Quote: sniperino
      Tiananmen was not looked at at all for sexual characteristics.

      Just don't compare this regime with Deng Xiaoping. Conditionally it could be compared if the State Emergency Committee dispersed the meeting. And today the people in power are those who destroyed the USSR and arranged the "holy 90s".
      Quote: sniperino
      If you do not shoot, you can humanely kick out of the road, or a democratizer on a cuckoo, which is more painful, of course, and the consequences for it could be worse.

      Bravo, you are a real "man", do you treat your wife the same way?
      Quote: sniperino
      In the United States, a woman did not even interfere with a Negro policeman, he simply shot her point-blank.

      So he just took it and shot it? You, in various topics, yell most of all about how bad it is in the USA, and now you put them as an example?
      Quote: sniperino
      If you want to start riots, you do not have to drag / let women and children into them, rake them yourself, without hiding behind the weak, if men.

      And women are inferior people in your opinion, they themselves cannot make decisions, yes "gentleman"?
      1. sniperino
        sniperino 24 January 2021 20: 25
        +7
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Who interfered with that?
        Didn't you see that she threw herself across them? Did they have to stop to get stuck around them? She ran out for this. She managed to ask, but for this she could walk next to her.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 20: 32
          -5
          Quote: sniperino
          Didn't you see that she threw herself across them? Did they have to stop to get stuck around them? She ran out for this.

          I saw everything, I watched the broadcast, there was enough space, the crowd was about 7 meters away. They didn't even have to bypass her, she did not bother them, "gentleman" You are ours.
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 24 January 2021 21: 20
            +5
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            They didn't even have to bypass her, she did not bother them, "gentleman"

            So what was she doing there?
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 21: 23
              -4
              Quote: Dart2027
              So what was she doing there?

              No eyes? Ears blocked? Watch the video more closely, you can see what she is asking and where she went.
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 24 January 2021 21: 27
                +6
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                no hole? Ears blocked?

                I asked a simple question - what was she doing there?
              2. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 21: 31
                -5
                Quote: Dart2027
                I asked a simple question - what was she doing there?

                Can't you see it yourself? The video has everything.
              3. Dart2027
                Dart2027 24 January 2021 22: 49
                +3
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                The video has everything.

                Quote: Dart2027
                I asked a simple question - what was she doing there?

                There it means in the midst of street riots.
                And, by the way, the video shows how she rushes to the police officers who are leading the detainee.
              4. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 22: 59
                -6
                Quote: Dart2027
                And, by the way, the video shows how she rushes to the police officers who are leading the detainee.

                Three healthy foreheads lead a skinny "they are children", a grandmother jumps out to meet him shouting "why are you him ..." and casually gets a boot in the stomach. This is normal? In addition, such actions by the OMON are also prohibited by law. Or is it the law for us, but they shouldn't care about the law?
              5. Dart2027
                Dart2027 24 January 2021 23: 04
                +3
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                Three healthy foreheads lead a skinny "they are children", a grandmother jumps out to meet him shouting "why are you him ..." and

                That is, we do not deny the fact that she rushed herself?
                If during street riots someone is not smart enough not to ask for trouble, then this is his / her problem. If she just stood and was attacked, then there would still be questions, and so - for what she was fighting.
              6. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 23: 09
                -3
                Quote: Dart2027
                That is, we do not deny the fact that she rushed herself?

                She rushed to fight the National Guards? Why was she hit? Is he a law only for us? Rosgvardia should not comply with the law?
              7. Dart2027
                Dart2027 24 January 2021 23: 12
                +2
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                She rushed to fight the National Guards?

                There is a detention of the organizers of street riots, some "lady" throws herself in front of the detainee's leader and that she should be stroked on the head?
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                Is he a law only for us?

                According to the law, she must be arrested and straight from the hospital to the pre-trial detention center.
              8. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 23: 14
                -4
                Quote: Dart2027
                According to the law, she must be arrested and straight from the hospital to the pre-trial detention center.

                According to the law, the employee who hit the woman should have been jailed. And she did not walk in the crowd, but was generally on the sidewalk.
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 24 January 2021 20: 57
    +7
    Quote: sniperino
    In the United States, a woman did not even interfere with a Negro policeman, he simply shot her point-blank.

    "This is different" ...
    lol
    A veteran of 4 wars, a woman, was shot without any special reason. Like a mad dog. And her name has already been forgotten ...
    Here our liberals have drawn their tails between them. Have learned. Children are taken out, babies are covered. Like the Nazis during the Great Patriotic War ...
    1. sniperino
      sniperino 24 January 2021 21: 59
      +4
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      Children are taken out, babies are covered. Like the Nazis during the Great Patriotic War ...
      And that pisses me off the most. It is a pity that public flogging was canceled. It would be the very thing for these dupes who drag their children to such "events", and the children would not be left orphans, as if they were imprisoned.
  • MORDVIN13rus
    MORDVIN13rus 24 January 2021 19: 41
    +10
    And what to do with those who kicked the guy half to death, just because he was against shisyan? He is neither a cop nor a riot police officer, but simply a citizen.
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 19: 57
      -3
      Quote: MORDVIN13rus
      And what to do with those who kicked the guy half to death, just because he was against shisyan?

      Plant, definitely.
      Quote: MORDVIN13rus
      He is neither a cop nor a riot police officer, but simply a citizen.

      In my opinion he is just a provocateur, and those that provoked the cops are the same provocateurs. Tomorrow they will shoot from the crowd or from the nearest roof, or they will throw Molotov cocktails.
      1. MORDVIN13rus
        MORDVIN13rus 24 January 2021 20: 01
        +8
        His only fault is that he expressed his own opinion, but the poster was with a pod. But even I remember in all appeals, it was declared that freedom of speech, and other nonsense. So why did the crowd beat him if it was a peace process? Or maybe the crowd will return the eye to a person, to whom she knocked out, just for the fact that he arrived by car at the place of work?
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 20: 21
          -1
          Quote: MORDVIN13rus
          But even I remember in all appeals, it was declared that freedom of speech, and other nonsense.

          And the liberda does not have any "freedom of speech". It is necessary to plant those who beat him.
  • 2я19
    2я19 24 January 2021 19: 47
    0
    Pretty boy!
  • Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 21: 10
    0
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    And with such what to do?

    so the boss had already apologized to her in the hospital for him.
    So that:
  • Stas157
    Stas157 24 January 2021 17: 58
    -2
    Quote: seregin-s1
    You must shoot!

    I would have gone out to the crowd yesterday and announced to everyone! What are you talking about?
  • businessv
    businessv 24 January 2021 19: 57
    -1
    Quote: Cowbra
    This is the last century, in Singapore they did without blood - and everyone was dispersed in the bins.
    There was Lee Kuan Yew, who began to raise the country by warning his friends (everything was even worse there than we have now) that if they did not stop the lawlessness, he would imprison them (briefly, with a transcription into our language) ... He gave a term, after which he did so - he imprisoned those who were not going to obey him in the restoration of statehood. I think this is impossible with us today - the ruler is incapable of such a thing.
    1. Quadro
      Quadro 24 January 2021 23: 19
      +2
      Now we would be equal to the totalitarian city-state, where the police are walking around with a machete.
  • Alex013
    Alex013 24 January 2021 23: 24
    +1
    Singapore is Singapore))
    1. Alex013
      Alex013 24 January 2021 23: 27
      +1
      "To fight corruption, start by planting three of your friends. You know exactly why, and they know why.")
      1. Alex013
        Alex013 24 January 2021 23: 30
        0
        "I don't need an amorphous, inert society, ready to assent to my every word. Such a society is soulless, lifeless. I expect you to start thinking, not just shouting outdated slogans. Start thinking." this !!!
      2. businessv
        businessv 25 January 2021 11: 53
        +1
        Quote: Alex013
        You know exactly why, and they know why. ")

        Above I wrote just about this, in a post about Lee Kuan Yew)))
  • 220976
    220976 24 January 2021 16: 04
    +11
    Quote: Crowe
    Tiananmen is remembered.

    Of course they do. It took only 30 years.
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 24 January 2021 16: 14
      +6
      Quote: 220976
      Of course they do. It took only 30 years.

      fool You can forget what happened 6 years ago on the Maidan, look at Belarus. The main thing is to draw the right conclusions and make the right decisions in similar situations.
      1. 220976
        220976 24 January 2021 16: 19
        +5
        You can forget anything. And you can forget yourself ...
      2. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 24 January 2021 17: 02
        0
        By the way, they say that the fascist rag was banned and people from the Republic of Belarus wrote for it ...
        1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 17: 17
          -2
          Quote: Incvizitor
          By the way, they say that the fascist rag was banned and people from the Republic of Belarus wrote for it ...

          What kind of rag?
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra 24 January 2021 17: 23
            +5
            Used pad "her name is also, bchb,
            Many active activists of the BPR returned to the Soviet Union in the 1920s and 1930s, but many took a position of "non-reconciliation" and were ready to cooperate with the Nazis, if only against the "red occupation". The Germans allowed them to use the white-red-white flag and coat of arms "Pursuit" in 1942
            1. Rzzz
              Rzzz 24 January 2021 17: 59
              +1
              This is the flag under which Lukasz took his first oath. Truth forgot already.
              1. Cowbra
                Cowbra 24 January 2021 18: 03
                +7
                Well, then he was not yet president and could not change the Nazi rag
              2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 21: 23
                -2
                Quote: rzzz
                This is the flag under which Lukasz took his first oath. Truth forgot already.

                Well, you do not force it .... The dad even has cowards from the RIGHT national flag.
                laughing
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            3. Rzzz
              Rzzz 25 January 2021 14: 43
              0
              Quote: Cowbra
              Used pad "her name is also, bchb,

              Well, the current red-green flag of the benevolent name is "sunset over the swamp".
          2. Incvizitor
            Incvizitor 24 January 2021 19: 25
            +2
            Red and white which in the 40s Hitler's colobortionists wore.
            1. Rzzz
              Rzzz 24 January 2021 22: 51
              +1
              No, there the Nazis PERMITTED to use BCHB collaborators. Consequently, he was well known up to this point.
              It's like the Russian tricolor some goofs call "Vlasov". Although the Vlasovites used the tricolor extremely rarely, but mostly the blue-and-white St. Andrew's cross. But we prefer not to remember this.
              In general, the tricolor was invented by Peter I.
              1. Quadro
                Quadro 24 January 2021 23: 22
                -3
                Quote: rzzz
                No, there the Nazis PERMITTED to use BCHB collaborators. Consequently, he was well known up to this point.
                It's like the Russian tricolor some goofs call "Vlasov". Although the Vlasovites used the tricolor extremely rarely, but mostly the blue-and-white St. Andrew's cross. But we prefer not to remember this.
                In general, the tricolor was invented by Peter I.

                But this BCHB rag appeared during the years of the German occupation during the civil war.
  • Finches
    Finches 24 January 2021 16: 10
    +21
    In every society there are a number of individuals with the so-called "active civic position", constantly preoccupied with discontent - they are not ready to do something useful for the country, but they are ready to jump and yell: yesterday against Stalin - so let's surrender Leningrad and Moscow, let us be ruled civilized Europeans, than a damned Asian, against the USSR, let the Americans rule us, against Putin ... These bawlers destroyed the Russian Empire, then they met the German troops with bread and salt, but broke off ..., destroyed the USSR, and now they also want to destroy Russia ! They are not against Putin - they are against Russia and everything Russian! This layer of people has always existed and will continue to exist! Do I need to shoot them, as under Soviet rule? Personally, I do not mind, but it's enough just not to listen and not hear them! Not to notice their squeals and that will be enough! The same Navalny was promoted by journalists, elevating him to the rank of a fighter against the "bloody" regime, and he is just a petty swindler and nothing more, but now he is also a national traitor!
    And the Chinese understand this very well! Like no one else on the planet!
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 24 January 2021 16: 38
      +8
      Quote: Finches
      ..These bawlers destroyed the Russian Empire, then they met the German troops with bread and salt, but broke off ..., destroyed the USSR, and now they also want to destroy Russia! They are not against Putin - they are against Russia and everything Russian! E

      So. hi

      And who supported them: yesterday, local Russophobes and Natsiks, forgetting about their hatred of the Russian language. came to the Russian Embassy in Chisinau with posters in ... Russian for Nalny ..

      But ... there they were already met by people with St. George's banners, in support of Russia:
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 24 January 2021 17: 18
        -1
        Quote: Olgovich
        came to the Russian Embassy in Chisinau with posters in ... Russian for Nalny ..

        But ... there they were already met by people with St. George's banners, in support of Russia:

        Were these two meetings allowed?
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 24 January 2021 19: 30
          +3
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          Were these two meetings allowed?

          everything Russophobic is always allowed. This action was announced.

          But suddenly people came with .. St. George's banners
      2. Finches
        Finches 24 January 2021 17: 27
        +5
        hi Bulk and others like them are the scum of any society that just know how to do, grovel before the West! Sometimes garbage gets caught up in power, as in Ukraine and then the whole country with all the riches and peoples is served by them to foreigners - like a solemn loaf!
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 20: 24
          -3
          Quote: Finches
          Sometimes garbage gets caught up in power, as in Ukraine and then the whole country with all the riches and peoples is served by them to foreigners - like a solemn loaf!

          Did you just write about Ukraine?
          1. Finches
            Finches 24 January 2021 20: 29
            +4
            Understanding your provocation, I will still answer - definitely about Ukraine! But until 2000, we lived the same way ... Do you remember, for example, Foreign Minister Kozyrev or Yeltsin's antics? And the two Chechen wars unleashed by the Sverdlovsk drunk and his American friends, on the fields of which thousands of Russian boys remained ... Do you want to return all this to sleep - as it is today in Ukraine, only on our scale? Amazing people! As I can see!
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 20: 42
              -5
              Quote: Finches
              Understanding your provocation, I will still answer - definitely about Ukraine! .....

              No, in fact, I agree, Ukraine is much worse than ours, but we are going in the same direction. Until 2000 it was faster, today it is slower, but the "vector of development" is the same. As you still don't see it, I don't understand.
              PS So the "golden toilet" is drawn.
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 24 January 2021 21: 22
                +4
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                No, in fact, I agree, Ukraine is much worse than ours, but we are going in the same direction.

                Judging by the hysteria of those thirsting for freedom all the same in another.
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 21: 24
                  -4
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  Judging by the hysteria of those thirsting for freedom all the same in another.

                  Are there any other arguments?
                  1. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 24 January 2021 21: 29
                    +4
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    And some other arguments

                    Historical experience shows that this is the main criterion.
                    1. aleksejkabanets
                      aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 21: 33
                      -4
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      Historical experience shows that this is the main criterion.

                      And do you have a lot of this "historical experience"? So tell me, there are no arguments.
                    2. Dart2027
                      Dart2027 24 January 2021 22: 49
                      +3
                      Quote: aleksejkabanets
                      And do you have a lot of this "historical experience"?

                      Starting with the rebuild and ending with the current number.
                      Quote: aleksejkabanets
                      So tell me, there are no arguments.

                      You do not have.
            2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 21: 31
              -9
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              As you still don't see it, I don't understand.

              quieter, quieter, don't bother. Grandfather climbed onto the podium, let him speak. Now it will be the turn of # Stalin to go out and other exposing of the State Department's intrigues against the god-given power of Russia. Shout "Do you want like in Ukraine ???" has been?
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 22: 51
                -5
                Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Shout "Do you want like in Ukraine ???" has been?

                With Zyablitsev's scream "Do you want it like in Ukraine ???" it all started))))))
                1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                  Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 22: 56
                  -5
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  With Zyablitsev's scream "Do you want it like in Ukraine ???" it all started))))))

                  For some reason it reminds me of the old man Edelweiss with his "heuristic machine", in which
                  Inside she has a thinker and a neon woman
                  (C)
                  He rushes about, poor man, pokes with his useless trash ...
                  In general, the Tale of the Troika is a great thing.
                  1. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 23: 07
                    -4
                    Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                    In general, the Tale of the Troika is a great thing.

                    "Monday starts on Saturday" I read, but I don't remember "The Tale of the Troika", I have to read it.
                  2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 23: 14
                    -6
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    but I don’t remember "The Tale of the Troika", I have to read it.

                    read, read. Zyablitsev also did not read, but his reaction is not difficult to predict - slander, they say, from a Jewish pen. People like him, apparently, have a few extra cervical vertebrae - otherwise how can you explain this idiotic manner of making everyone go forward with the head turned back?
                  3. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 25 January 2021 00: 08
                    -5
                    Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                    People like him, apparently, have a few extra cervical vertebrae - otherwise how can you explain this idiotic manner of making everyone go forward with the head turned back?

                    Yes, he is, of course, a stunning character, there is still Olgovich, they both converge, so even if you stand or fall, such pearls slip through.
                    And I'll read the book, I loved the Strugatskys in my youth. I like to read paper, I got used to printing books on a laser printer, it comes out three or four times cheaper than buying.
            3. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 22: 57
              -5
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              how in Ukraine ???

              By the way, here (in Zyablikov's way) everything is clear - Vakula will crawl over to pick up the chereviches from Putin's feet !!! laughing
  • kapitan92
    kapitan92 25 January 2021 01: 26
    +1
    Quote: Finches
    bulk and the like are the scum of any society,

    good
    hi
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 24 January 2021 17: 30
    -6
    And in America, there are many who want to destroy America and join, say, Mexico? Maybe it's the desire to serve for the good of the country and not your own wallet?
    1. loki565
      loki565 24 January 2021 17: 53
      +9
      In America, there are many who want to divide the states, many move to Canada and Australia, in general, there are cockroaches there.
  • Cosm22
    Cosm22 24 January 2021 17: 36
    -11%
    Let's clarify after all.
    It follows from your words that a certain "stratum of people" (it must be understood, very few in number and not enjoying the support of the bulk of the population) managed to destroy two powerful powers within seven decades - the great Russian Empire and the USSR, an unbreakable union of free republics?
    Is that how you need to understand your words?
    What kind of a layer is this? And what kind of states are these, which instantly collapsed from the actions of an insignificant stratum of people, which should not be taken into account? Which is enough just not to listen and not notice their squeals?
    1. Finches
      Finches 24 January 2021 17: 50
      +7
      This is an interesting question, if you put aside your inappropriate sarcasm, but as numerous studies in this area show, serious political change requires the active participation of about 3,5% of the population ... And good funding! Therefore, Iosif Vissarionovich acted wisely - he cleaned out this layer by force methods, at a time when the state was not yet stable! And if she hadn't done this, Moscow would not have been kept! And at the end of the USSR, most of the national traitors reached the top of the government. The CPSU by the 80th year turned into a clumsy and ossified machine, weakly reacting to the decay of individual elements ... So it was with the Russian Empire - a lot in the economy belonged to France and England, the Empire was ruled by a decent, in general, a man, but a rag and nothing to do he could not - stupidly led the state to collapse - he was betrayed by a bunch of high-ranking officials-Masons and part of the corrupt generals ... A smart person will not protest after the clown Navalny, but smart and not needed - you need to shake the boat - and for this a small one is enough heaps of national traitors or narrow-minded marginalized people who are bought with giblets who cannot read and write, as in Ukraine - in our case, a stupid shkolota - and that's it! In the media, this is heralded as another victory for democracy, and all assets go to those who paid for it - in this case, the Anglo-Saxons!
      1. Cosm22
        Cosm22 24 January 2021 19: 09
        -5
        We summarize.
        So, a certain stratum of people, some insignificant 3,5% of the population, is in a position to destroy the Russian or Soviet state (the question of why such a stratum has not yet destroyed, for example, the United States, will be left outside the brackets).
        So maybe we should listen to this stratum in the Kremlin today? Huh? And not beat her with clubs? Remember the phraseological unit of the cat Leopold?
        And it’s not even an hour, this powerful stratum will once again ruin the next state?
        She, as I understand it, this layer is quite capable of this, she can do anything.
        1. Finches
          Finches 24 January 2021 19: 13
          0
          You don't need a lot of mind here - to plant the most violent ones or, as in the USA, accidentally shoot them, and the rest will scatter themselves! The state and only the state has the right to violence and must use it to the fullest - as, by the way, in the entire "civilized" world: Germany, France, Israel ... Then there will be a progressive development of the country, and not a rollback into the sewers .. . history or complete economic collapse and bloody meat grinder of civil war, as in Ukraine, for example, or Libya!
          1. Cosm22
            Cosm22 24 January 2021 20: 05
            -4
            Oh well...
            Well, good luck to you.
            In the landings.
            In random shootings and other good deeds.
            1. Finches
              Finches 24 January 2021 20: 08
              -1
              This sin is much more pleasing to God than one that has no forgiveness either on earth or in heaven, the sin of betrayal - of one's Motherland, friends, parents ...! That is why Judas and those like him are in the center of hell ... according to the versions of all religious and cultural canons of mankind! Apparently not easy! Have you ever thought about it? Think, just in case ... hi
              1. RitaNik
                RitaNik 24 January 2021 20: 33
                -1
                Do not blaspheme! And do not pass off your fabrications as truth. "Godly sin" ...
                You have to invent something like that! He himself does not know and misleads others.
                1. Finches
                  Finches 24 January 2021 20: 35
                  +4
                  Are we with you? Amazing business - I did not know! laughing Refute, if possible, without rudeness, which is unlikely, apparently, you will succeed, but it will be very interesting to read!
                  1. RitaNik
                    RitaNik 24 January 2021 20: 58
                    -1
                    What is the point for me to enter into a discussion with you. You don’t know the 10 commandments, you didn’t read the Sermon on the Mount, but with a clever air you are broadcasting about some “godly sins,” keep telling you better how things are going in America and Israel. This topic is probably more familiar to you.
                  2. Finches
                    Finches 24 January 2021 21: 06
                    +3
                    It is good that you have not remembered 10 commandments of a communist, which are basically based, if you think about it, precisely on the Sermon on the Mount of Christ ...

                    And do not remind who said: "I did not bring peace to you, but a sword"?

                    In pursuit of the question, I can still be smart (I will be like you, but I will refrain from blaming ignorance outright) and remember Dante's "Divine Comedy" as a remark to my words about the cultural canons of humanity, where the killers were on the 7th circle of hell, and Judas Iscariot was in the center of the underworld , already in the 9th circle - the ice lake Kotsyt ... That is, the killers were closer to God - right? wink
                  3. RitaNik
                    RitaNik 24 January 2021 21: 44
                    0
                    As a person with little knowledge of Christianity, I will reveal a secret to you: no sin can be pleasing to God, so you are preaching pure heresy and gag. You can read about the way in which violence is justified from the Russian philosopher Solovyov in Three Talks about War, Progress and the End of World History.
                  4. Finches
                    Finches 24 January 2021 21: 53
                    +3
                    I don't dig as deep as you do and I don't preach anything! You never answered the question, for that it is not clear why you are always skimping over your superiority over a complete stranger to you ... I am glad that you are versed in Christianity and have read Solovyov, but this has nothing to do with my dialogue with Vladimir! Be kind the next time, even when you really want to show your intellectual baggage, still more or less grasp the essence, and not pull out of context the remarks ... hi

                    PS By the way, this is the problem of our liberal pseudo opposition - they also consider themselves smarter, wiser than everyone and, in general, the ultimate truth, especially when money is thrown from the American embassy - here the level of intellectual superiority is off scale! laughing
                  5. RitaNik
                    RitaNik 24 January 2021 22: 46
                    -2

                    It's awesome!
                    Your problem is boilerplate thinking and labeling. However, it is in you, most likely, that says hurt pride. yes
                    hi
                  6. Finches
                    Finches 24 January 2021 22: 50
                    +3
                    Thanks for the psychological portrait - I didn't know! laughing
  • Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 21: 41
    -6
    Quote: Cosm22
    We summarize.

    no. Grandpa wants Stalin. Grandpa wants cleanings - it turns out
    Quote: Finches
    This sin is much more pleasing to God

    Grandpa wants his anonymous letters not to remain without a reaction. Grandpa wants to feel the firm master's hand clenching on his scrotum. And he also wants a 19 kopeck ice cream and May Day demonstrations.
  • Stas157
    Stas157 24 January 2021 18: 09
    -2
    Quote: Cosm22
    It follows from your words that

    What can follow from the words of the inadequate?
    This comrade drowns at the same time for Lenin, for Stalin and ... Putin. It is a big secret how he managed to shove in the same row as the revolutionary communists and the servant of the oligarchs.
    1. Finches
      Finches 24 January 2021 18: 21
      +3
      Again rude, however rudeness, this is your only argument and if you do not know or do not understand something, this does not mean that this cannot be laughing
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 24 January 2021 18: 54
        -2
        Quote: Finches
        Rude again

        What are you talking about, Zyablitsev! I personally address you politely. Now I was not writing to you, but about you. Excuse me that the estimate comes out so low. But, a person (you) is able to correct himself!)) Do you, as a teacher, do not know!
        1. Finches
          Finches 24 January 2021 18: 55
          +4
          Leopard change his spots laughing
    2. sniperino
      sniperino 24 January 2021 19: 21
      -3
      Quote: Stas157
      It is a big secret how he managed to shove in the same row as the revolutionary communists and the servant of the oligarchs.
      I'll tell you a secret, the oligarchs' servant is you, Stasik.
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 20: 55
        -2
        Quote: sniperino
        I'll tell you a secret, the oligarchs' servant is you, Stasik.

        Can you justify the "gentleman" you are ours? Or can you just "justify" how women should be beaten correctly?
        1. sniperino
          sniperino 24 January 2021 21: 30
          +1
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          And you can justify
          Of course. We have no oligarchs: Putin removed them from power, and now only the rich, who have influence, but who have no power, remain. Where did those who did not want to give up power rushed? To the West (Gusinsky alone, it seems, to Israel), which is ruled by his oligarchs, becoming their henchmen. Who is opposed to Putin's rule? The West, his henchmen like the former oligarch Khodorkovsky and the henchmen like Navalny. Servants of servants here are drowning for Navalny, being at the same time servants of Western oligarchs according to the principle "the vassal of my vassal is my vassal." Have I ignored anyone?
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 21: 48
            -3
            Quote: sniperino
            and now only the rich are left with influence but no power

            What is it like? In general, thanks for the comment, I haven't laughed like that for a long time, you know how to cheer up.
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 25 January 2021 11: 07
              +2
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Quote: sniperino
              and now only the rich are left with influence but no power

              What is it like? In general, thanks for the comment, I haven't laughed like that for a long time, you know how to cheer up.
              This is true. A. Pugacheva has an influence on some part of society, for which she is seen as a sincere and competent person. Many female students voted for M. Prokhorov in 2012: young, handsome, rich ... What else is needed to influence young hearts and fragile minds. Do these people have power? No. Yeltsin had influence and office, but no power; at that time it belonged to the oligarchs (see "Seven Banking"). And Putin first had the highest position in the state, then - the fight against oligarchs, then - the construction of the vertical of power. Only in this complex and lengthy process did he acquire not formal, like Yeltsin, but real, though not absolute power. Your comments give the impression that this explanation will be clear to you. But if you don't understand anything again, just laugh. Have a good mood.
          2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 22: 28
            -2
            Quote: sniperino
            Servants of servants here drown for Navalny, being at the same time servants of Western oligarchs

            Powerful.
            Quote: sniperino
            I have not ignored anyone?

            Well .... the servants of the servants of the servants are bypassed by your attention, I think. This, of course, is a fairly conformist sociomass, unable to play a significant role in the subsequential paradigm, but nonetheless. And the vertical of vassalage is not fully disclosed by you.
            Quote: sniperino
            Who is opposed to Putin's rule? West

            Damn! (from)
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 25 January 2021 11: 16
              0
              Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              in the subsequential paradigm
              Are you a geologist? Dig deeper.
        2. Quadro
          Quadro 24 January 2021 23: 32
          +2
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Quote: sniperino
          I'll tell you a secret, the oligarchs' servant is you, Stasik.

          Can you justify the "gentleman" you are ours? Or can you just "justify" how women should be beaten correctly?

          So you just talk a lot, from you there are only provocative questions only, go get 15 cents for a comment. You nasralist only crowd one guy can score, not you write about beating women.
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 24 January 2021 23: 47
            -2
            Quote: Quadro
            So you just talk a lot, from you there are only provocative questions only, go get 15 cents for a comment.

            Write the card number? Please, I don’t have a dollar account in rubles.
            Quote: Quadro
            You can only beat one guy with a crowd,

            Do you count me among the bulkheads? Are you healthy? Did you hit your head on the keyboard? Or again "provocative questions"?
            Quote: Quadro
            not for you to write about beating women.

            And why? I don't raise my hands on women, and I don't make excuses for those who beat women. And yes, I would like to remind you that grown-up people use the pronoun "you" in conversation.
          2. Stas157
            Stas157 25 January 2021 02: 00
            0
            Quote: Quadro
            So you only bang a lot... go get 15 cents for
            idymbol

            Hey! Do not be yap! Give me 15 cents for each comment))) Otherwise, you're just trolololo.
      2. Stas157
        Stas157 25 January 2021 01: 48
        -2
        Quote: sniperino
        I will say in secret, the oligarchs' servant is you, Stasik.

        Who are you keeping secret from?)))
        Well, of course I am !!!! Well, not Putin!))) How long did you give birth to your idea?
  • aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 24 January 2021 19: 10
    0
    Quote: Cosm22
    What kind of a layer is this?

    Anyone you like in our power? does anyone keep their word? Does anyone see where to lead Russia for its prosperity? Is anyone concerned about social justice and the development of free education and health care? At worst, do the children of those in power serve in the army?
  • Rzzz
    Rzzz 24 January 2021 18: 06
    +2
    Quote: Finches
    Putin ... These bawlers destroyed the Russian Empire

    The Russian empire was destroyed by incompetent officials, led by a dull amperage. The public administration system worked extremely ineffectively, the economy was in severe crises that followed one after another, people were starving.
    Doesn't it look like anything? We are again on the way to this situation.
  • sniperino
    sniperino 24 January 2021 20: 41
    +2
    Quote: Finches
    They are not against Putin - they are against Russia and everything Russian!
    I believe that most of them simply do not give a damn about Russia, or about Putin, about other people, about the laws, about everything except their own wishes. In a crowd, a person loses self-control, becoming a part of it. This is what they use. The instigators must be in a cage, to their idol and for a long time: this is not a trifle to pick on your pockets.
    1. Finches
      Finches 24 January 2021 20: 43
      0
      I totally agree hi
  • Motorist
    Motorist 24 January 2021 23: 06
    +2
    Quote: Finches
    they are against Russia and everything Russian!

    Yes, there the bulk is simply for anything, except a hunger strike, and not against something. What we just cadets did not get up to: we unloaded the carriages and kicked the urns drunk - it's a shame to remember ... repeat
    1. Finches
      Finches 24 January 2021 23: 10
      +4
      Personally, I didn’t do anything shameful as a cadet: I went AWOL, drank vodka ... for which I also sat in the guardhouse - but I wouldn’t waste time and energy on any rallies! Moreover, such dubious meetings!
      1. Motorist
        Motorist 24 January 2021 23: 18
        +3
        No, I haven't been to the rallies either. I'm talking about something else: young then grow up and understand where they are then were wrong. And now - just courage. They're furious with fat, if you like (in my cadet years, however, I had no time for fat).
        1. Finches
          Finches 24 January 2021 23: 20
          +3
          I agree with you! hi
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 24 January 2021 16: 11
    +7
    Quote: Crowe
    Tiananmen is remembered.

    So it would not be bad for us to remember their Tiananmen. repeat
  • engineer74
    engineer74 24 January 2021 16: 21
    0
    Tsoi is alive!

    From the expanses of the Internet ...
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 24 January 2021 17: 17
      +3
      Changes should be for the better and on time, not late and bloody. ✋
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 24 January 2021 18: 11
        +10
        There it is not written about the changes, and I have not seen the country's development program from these stunners!
        Imagine: January 23, 1942, a demonstration of Moscow schoolchildren, clerks and students at the call of the Berlin radio ...
        What are your impressions?
        1. XXXIII
          XXXIII 24 January 2021 21: 44
          +2
          Quote: engineer74
          There it is not written about the changes, and I have not seen the country's development program from these stunners!
          Imagine: January 23, 1942, a demonstration of Moscow schoolchildren, clerks and students at the call of the Berlin radio ...
          What are your impressions?

          Then there were no such people.
  • Rzzz
    Rzzz 24 January 2021 18: 21
    0
    You have a very poor understanding of what happened in Tiananmen. You only know that a number of protesters were shooting there. Moreover, in different sources, depending on the mood of this source, from several tens to several tens of thousands of people. Nobody knows the exact number, most likely several hundred, plus some more were shot by the verdict of the fairest Chinese court. By the way, a number of soldiers died (secretly too). It is believed that there are also several hundred.
    But such things periodically happen in different countries, and they are not spread to the whole world, and they are not remembered for a long time outside the countries where they happened. Few people here remember the Yeltsin coup in 1993, and there, too, one and a half hundred people died.

    But the crux of the matter is that protests in China have not stopped. They smoldered there for some time, and the country's leadership was forced to start softening domestic policy, a kind of "perestroika". As a result, over the course of several years, China was reforming from an empire of communist absurdity, where they caught sparrows, to the world's largest economy.
    And this miracle would not have happened without Tiananmen.
  • Maz
    Maz 24 January 2021 21: 16
    +6
    In the concrete corridors of the Matrosskaya Tishina SIZO, boots rattled, the whole prison was engulfed in vanity, and keys creaked tightly in the keyhole. Where is he, where is Navalny, - an official in an expensive suit shouted in the corridor, blushing from straining.

    Alexei Navalny calmly and confidently left the cell, looked at the screamer with meaning. Here I am, together with my people. I'm getting ready to take over. What did you think?

    - Yes, we are nothing, Alexey Anatolyevich, I'm just worried, how are you? Are you full, maybe we will have a bite, and only then to the Kremlin? And then there for a long time, - the minister stammered, "Something is there", awkwardly trying to cover the "United Russia" badge on the lapel with his palm.

    - Let's go straight to the Kremlin, put an end to this protracted sideshow.

    Navalny went out onto the porch. The icy wind played with his hair, his eyelashes were immediately covered with frost, and he himself was staring at the crowd of millions surrounding the detention center and chanting "Navalny is our president!" The police and riot police shyly huddled in corners and alleys.
    ...
    Navalny! On the mandrel! - a sharp shout and bang of the "feeding trough" pulled Alexei out of his sleepy bliss. The President of the Beautiful Russia of the future got up, sighed, and began to roll the mattress.
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  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 24 January 2021 15: 58
    +11
    It is difficult to imagine what would have happened if the protests in the United States had been supported by Russian and Chinese diplomatic missions.

    It is even impossible to imagine, the stench would have clouded the entire atmosphere of the globe.
    But the Chinese have learned to resist this, remember the Tananmen Square and Hong Kong.
    1. Revival
      Revival 24 January 2021 17: 07
      +1
      So far, it's only difficult to imagine that they would dare to do so
  • V1er
    V1er 24 January 2021 15: 58
    -8
    This is the entire program of the "opposition".
    They shouted "Rossya without Putin". Then they go straight to us -. After all, our country today is Rossya without Putin. And this opposition also does not have any intelligible program, like our authorities. There is only one program - to shout, make some noise ... But "think" - no, it's not for them.

    For some reason, the VO site prohibits me from making a direct quote from the article "invalid text". You can check it yourself. What is this nonsense? Therefore, the text of the quote has been changed.
    1. V1er
      V1er 24 January 2021 16: 02
      -3
      As I understand it, for some reason the word "vlstay" is prohibited on this site. This is very strange and incomprehensible to me personally. I'll leave this to the discretion of the site administration.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 24 January 2021 16: 09
        +5
        for some reason the word "vlstay" is prohibited on this site.

        Authorities ... authorities ... authorities ... where it is forbidden here, what nonsense.
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        3. V1er
          V1er 24 January 2021 16: 12
          -2
          Then I don’t know what’s the matter ... Maybe we’ve already figured it out. I really don't get it.
        4. V1er
          V1er 24 January 2021 16: 13
          +1

          This is strange. I am taking a QUOTE FROM THE ARTICLE.
          1. 501Legion
            501Legion 24 January 2021 16: 26
            +2
            same. some topvar has a clumsy censor
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 24 January 2021 16: 00
    +5
    Once again I am convinced that everything that the Chinese write, they write for internal use.
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  • askort154
    askort154 24 January 2021 16: 01
    +12
    I read the opinions of China - it's interesting.
    And the opinion of Ukraine - do not care. Hardly anyone is interested in it on the VO website.
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 24 January 2021 16: 49
      0
      Quote: askort154
      Hardly anyone is interested in it on the VO website.

      Why is it not interesting to spit or laugh, depending on insanity or filth.
      1. sniperino
        sniperino 24 January 2021 20: 55
        +2
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        Why is it not interesting
        Because it is very predictable when it comes to ukrovlast. And people's opinion is interesting, because it may differ.
  • Aleks2048
    Aleks2048 24 January 2021 16: 07
    +11
    As a result of these protests, the question arises why the United States was not offered to curtail its activities in the form of embassies and consulates in Russia, or at least not to expel diplomats and their relatives from Russia who at least somehow spoke out in support of Navalny, and at the same time not to beat fines (if there is a violation of the legislation of the Russian Federation) or sanctions in relation to Internet sites on which the campaign for the protest rally was carried out, or through which the persons participating in the rally communicated.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 24 January 2021 16: 12
      +4
      As a result of these protests, the question arises why the United States was not offered to curtail its activities in the form of embassies and consulates in Russia

      The Chinese are imposing personal sanctions against US government officials ... our Foreign Ministry, as always, portrays bewilderment and regret ... well, another attempt at a serious conversation. smile A very bad position in a conversation with American cheaters.
      1. Retvizan 8
        Retvizan 8 24 January 2021 19: 28
        +1
        In vain do you admire the courage of the Chinese, what is the courage to impose sanctions on some members of the Trump team that has left?
        And is there any of the new ones who came with Baydan eating there?
        That's right - no.
        Such is the Chinese courage!
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 25 January 2021 03: 16
          +1
          It is not in vain that any American official with Russophobic views and deeds should be subject to sanctions from our side, no matter if he is acting or who has resigned. The Chinese do it in relation to their country .... Well done.
    2. Revival
      Revival 24 January 2021 17: 08
      +1
      So who dares
    3. Prax1
      Prax1 24 January 2021 18: 58
      -19%
      Because Navalny and his rally has nothing to do with the United States! Navalny is a Russian politician and a true patriot of Russia
      1. Aleks2048
        Aleks2048 24 January 2021 19: 39
        +6
        a true patriot of Russia

        And he was being treated and went to rest away from Russia. Navalny is a slightly violator of the laws of the Russian Federation. And what kind of patriot is he after that? Politician?! Are you kidding me ?! And who are his followers, oh yes there are a lot of them and they all have not reached the age of participation in the political life of the country. A politician without relying on the people. Children call a clown so Navalny played a little like a clown.
        1. Prax1
          Prax1 24 January 2021 19: 52
          -13%
          All these children - future strange, Youth on the side of Navalny. He is really a politician of the new formation. And he is a patriot with a capital letter, otherwise he wouldn’t come to the country where repression awaits him. All these criminal cases are fiction. In order to prevent him from participating in the elections. In any case, the future of the country belongs to Navalny
          1. Aleks2048
            Aleks2048 24 January 2021 20: 16
            +6
            All these children are future strange, the youth are on the side of Navalny

            This is just a play on words and substitution of the concepts of children for youth. This is sophistry.
            He is really a politician of the new formation

            Today he is a real prisoner.
            And he is a patriot with a capital letter, otherwise he wouldn’t come to the country where repression awaits him.

            And what is the use for the country from being imprisoned. At this rate, he can be considered a saint for his suffering during his lifetime.
            All these criminal cases are fiction

            Finally, start as a patriot to respect the decision of the court of the country where you position yourself as a patriot.
            In order to prevent him from participating in the elections.

            There was no need to skip marks as a probationer.
            In any case, the future of the country belongs to Navalny

            Maybe not for Putin and not for a united Russia the future, but obviously not for Navalny.
          2. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 24 January 2021 22: 54
            +5
            My son is definitely not for navalnenka. Dream! You were 100500 yesterday, throwing the youngsters 1050 turns out. It will not work, as in Ukraine. The President and the security forces will protect their citizens from any infidelity. bully
          3. Motorist
            Motorist 24 January 2021 23: 45
            +4
            Quote: Prax1
            Young people are on the side of Navalny. He is really a politician of the new formation. And he is a patriot with a capital letter

            Quote: Prax1
            the future of the country belongs to Navalny

            Prax1, you do not write comments, but slogans. Moreover - of dubious content. It seems to me that you are "canned" on VO, or a robot. I myself do not like to get personal (I confess - it happens sometimes), but in this case we need to figure it out. What do you think?
          4. Shraik
            Shraik 26 January 2021 15: 00
            0
            Dream further, ride higher!
      2. sniperino
        sniperino 25 January 2021 06: 16
        +3
        Quote: Prax1
        Navalny is a Russian politician and a true patriot of Russia
        Let me introduce myself: sniperino, an alien from the future.
  • 220976
    220976 24 January 2021 16: 07
    +9
    But the Ukrainian authorities see in the protesters on the eve in Russia "freedom fighters"

    These fighters have already "fought" their own. laughing
    Although there are those who will begin to say that they "at least tried" laughing
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 24 January 2021 16: 09
    +9
    All the monsters who protested to give a fascinating ticket to felling, that way for five years.
    Nature, fresh air and soldering included)))
    1. Revival
      Revival 24 January 2021 17: 09
      +1
      You have double standards
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 24 January 2021 17: 13
        +9
        What the hell is a double standard?

        I have exactly one standard - to send outright enemies of the state to bunks and longer.
        1. Revival
          Revival 24 January 2021 17: 18
          +1
          Well, you can't disagree with the authorities and even more so protest and more?

          "I have exactly one standard - to send outright enemies of the state to bunks and longer."

          Here I agree.
          Just something not to see this
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 24 January 2021 17: 21
            +6
            The same "oppositionists" were brutally crushed in America, with victims and crippled people.

            We got some business started.

            Who is more democratic to the opposition (read the enemies of the people)?
            1. Revival
              Revival 24 January 2021 17: 40
              +1
              Well, I do not care what is there in America, you are guided by them in everything?
              I do not observe their average salary in size.
              And if people start to eat there, then do we count the norms?

              And yes, I hinted to you a little about something else, but oh well
            2. poquello
              poquello 24 January 2021 18: 03
              +3
              Quote: Lord of the Sith
              The same "oppositionists" were brutally crushed in America, with victims and crippled people.

              Well, you compared, we had a shoe like the United States during the second elections of Yeltsin, and not on such a scale
        2. Rzzz
          Rzzz 24 January 2021 18: 34
          -2
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          I have exactly one standard - to send outright enemies of the state to bunks and longer.


          I just can't understand who the enemies are. Those who saw factories for scrap and export billions to England to pay for the construction of a new yacht. Or those who want the country to have laws, not concepts, and laws were written not only in the interests of the Forbes list members.

          What is interesting and characteristic. The protesters are mostly in the 15-40 age group. That is, people who understand that they still need to live in "this" country. Those who condemn are in the 60-∞ age group, and here you can see as a craving for some kind of stability of an already comfortably settled person. But this is called "stagnation".
          1. sniperino
            sniperino 24 January 2021 19: 39
            +1
            Quote: rzzz
            Or those who want the country to have laws, not concepts
            Those who want the laws to operate in the country do not violate them. And those who spit on laws that are "wrong" according to their concepts, act according to their concepts. And there is a third group: they do not care about the laws, they do not follow them, and about concepts, they have no concepts. You seem to be from the 3rd group.
            1. Rzzz
              Rzzz 24 January 2021 21: 38
              -2
              So stop. We are not discussing my personality here, it has nothing to do with it.
              As for the laws. In any normal state, laws are passed in the public interest. If laws are adopted in the interests of criminals who seized power, then society's rejection of these laws is quite natural.
              And our leadership for the last couple of years has been churning out such laws indiscriminately at an ever increasing speed.
          2. ALARI
            ALARI 24 January 2021 20: 40
            -4
            At the moment, the enemies of POWER are those who demand compliance with the laws of the Russian Federation. And those who are over 60 - so they are collaborators, they have already once (especially if the military or others in epaulets) betrayed the country and violated their oath. They get 30 silver.
            - to the last breath to be devoted to your People, your Soviet Motherland and the Soviet Government.
          3. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 25 January 2021 21: 24
            +2
            It is in the west that the factories are sawn, but in our country they are being rebuilt.
            Look at the project "Made by us", everything will be clear))
            1. Rzzz
              Rzzz 27 January 2021 15: 44
              0
              You look less than any "projects". And then soon you will reach the aliens on Ren-TV.
              When you are sick, do you go to a real doctor, or do you watch Malysheva's show?
              Here, and with factories the same garbage. Maybe in the "project" something was built there, but in real life everything is just closed and imported equipment is purchased. And when they talk about import substitution, they usually talk about contract manufacturing in China, but with marking and documentation in Russian. At the same time, quality is a terrible nightmare at horse prices.
              Or the products are really domestic, but such crooked handicrafts that you are amazed. But the price tag is again a horse. They never forget to put the price on the "world level".
              P.S. I know what I'm talking about, I come across in practice regularly.
              1. Lord of the Sith
                Lord of the Sith 27 January 2021 16: 15
                0
                Well, yes, well, yes, I personally see that everything is "closed" there)))

                I sit listening to how helicopters fly, how planes in packs of 20 fly by in a few minutes, how the machine-tool plant works, I see everything)))

                And pests with a blue mug do not see. Because the enemies of the state.

                Calm down, blue)))
                1. Rzzz
                  Rzzz 28 January 2021 16: 17
                  0
                  Well, yes, well, from the sofa you can clearly see how something flies there. What are you flying there? Mi-8, developed half a century ago? An unfinished superjet? Mc21, which has been under development for almost twenty years, and will not be produced because the fiber is under sanctions, and there will be enough stocks for another 5 machines?
                  For comparison. The Airbus A350 is ultra-long-haul, it was developed for 5 years, the development began later than MS-21, and more than 4 hundreds are already flying. Because the climate is different, perhaps? Or steal less?

                  And I am now looking for how to purchase spare parts for a masterpiece of domestic shipbuilding. Everything is fine, only the equipment is German, and the equipment manufacturer does not have a representative office in the Russian Federation. Here's what you want, then do it. Probably have to order from there and get into the customs clearance swamp.
                  In general, this Russian masterpiece has only an iron case box. Everything else is imported, and believe me, patriot, this is a boooooo big gimor. I would describe it with obscene words, but it is impossible here, unfortunately.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 24 January 2021 16: 09
    +5
    What opinion do you like about yesterday's protests: Chinese or Gosdepovskoe. Since the State Department scolds us, it means we are doing everything right (I am surprised that they still do not know this Russian logic), and Chinese words are like oil in their ears. drinks
  • 220976
    220976 24 January 2021 16: 09
    +12
    There is only one program - to shout, make some noise ... But "think" - no, it's not for them.

    This is the main thing for them. And what's next they don't care.
  • Sanche
    Sanche 24 January 2021 16: 11
    -8
    Chinese Media: Russia's Liberal Opposition Shows Both Failure and Dependence

    You could just as well write it like this:
    Chinese Media: Russia's Liberal Opposition Shows Both Consistency and Independence

    wassat Does anyone know Chinese to check or disprove this? the same
  • Sanche
    Sanche 24 January 2021 16: 17
    -6
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    Give all the freaks protesters a fascinating ticket to the felling

    calm ... only calm ... drinks
    People should have the right to speak their mind, that's okay
    It is not normal to be in power for 20 years.

    Politicians are like diapers. They need to be changed more often. And for the same reason.

    Good phrase
    1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
      Aleksey Aleksandrovich 24 January 2021 16: 47
      +4
      Quote: Sanche
      It is not normal to be in power for 20 years.


      Come on, you repeat this mantra. 20 years old, abnormal, blah blah ...
    2. Retvizan 8
      Retvizan 8 24 January 2021 19: 41
      +2
      Tell the Germans, sixteen years old, like Angela Merkel, does that mean normal?
  • cniza
    cniza 24 January 2021 16: 21
    +4
    The Chinese portal Sohu publishes an article stating that the liberal opposition to Russia has shown both its failure and its lack of independence.


    Everything is based on money, cut off the funding channels and everything will be blown away ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 24 January 2021 17: 48
      +4
      Hi soldier
      You can close the "door", so they'll climb into the window! and she, with us, is raskhleyabenin with might and main !!!
      The space of the world wide web is their space !!! and the spiders are sitting there, hardened, not one "moth" devoured!
  • 501Legion
    501Legion 24 January 2021 16: 25
    +8
    They shouted "Russia without Putin". Then they'll go straight to us - to Kiev. After all, Ukraine today is Russia without Putin.

    it couldn't be better.
  • A.K.
    A.K. 24 January 2021 16: 35
    +1
    The last comment in the article is straight to the point. I agree.
  • From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 24 January 2021 16: 52
    -1
    Peskov came out to the protesters, said that the infa about the palace was a spreading cranberry and left, flashing for hours for 600 t dollars on his hand.
  • taiga2018
    taiga2018 24 January 2021 17: 00
    +6
    If we talk about the comments of foreign media, then the Chinese, in my opinion, will be the most objective ...
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 24 January 2021 17: 31
      -3
      Quote: taiga2018
      in my opinion, the Chinese will be the most objective ...

      And Russia is beneficial to China exactly as it is now. They don't need an economically strong Russia.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 25 January 2021 13: 55
        0
        "China benefits from Russia exactly as it is now." - That is, the fifth economy in the world.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 25 January 2021 14: 05
          -2
          Quote: Vadim237
          That is, the fifth economy in the world.

          Sixth. In general, this rating largely depends on the number of the population. There the Indians are in third place.
  • Tagan
    Tagan 24 January 2021 17: 08
    +4
    Yesterday the local libepote showed her true face. These are ordinary extremists and political pedophiles.
    That's all you need to know about them.
  • Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 24 January 2021 17: 29
    +4
    It would be better if the Chinese, in their TIKTOK, banned all sorts of freaks calling on youngsters to unauthorized rallies.
    1. Freeman
      Freeman 24 January 2021 18: 16
      -2
      Quote: Yaro Polk
      It would be better if the Chinese in their TIKTOK, banned all sorts of freaks who call youngsters to unauthorized rallies.

      The key word is "unauthorized" - because only "putings" can be "authorized".


      Against all other assemblies, in the central parts of the cities, so many "bylaws" have been passed that it is almost impossible to get permission.

      True, you can still "agitate" squirrels in Sokolniki. Just like at the "May Day" under the tsar. / sarcasm /

      Shl. I'm not for Navalny. I, like this "grandfather", stand for freedom of assembly.

      https://s02.yapfiles.ru/files/2498812/7f81011c96d98d419e06eac6e5ba4d90.mp4?token=MDI0OTg4MTItMTYxMTQ5OTQ4Ng
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 24 January 2021 18: 19
      -4
      Quote: Yaro Polk
      to rallies unauthorized

      You obviously really like the great revolutionary and communist Ernesto Che, what is shown on your avatar?

      So, everything that he organized (including meetings), it was all unauthorized official authorities.
    3. Prax1
      Prax1 24 January 2021 19: 02
      -9
      There is no such thing as an unauthorized meeting. According to the constitution, we have every right
      1. Yaro Polk
        Yaro Polk 25 January 2021 14: 17
        +2
        Yeah, you have the right to do it according to the American training manual.
        You don’t have a damn thing, you liberoid parasites.
      2. Yaro Polk
        Yaro Polk 25 January 2021 14: 20
        +1
        It is a pity that the new Constitution did not prescribe that EXITING ON NESANTS. rallies (like you), for 10-15 years gave, as in your beloved Europe and the USA
  • rocket757
    rocket757 24 January 2021 17: 44
    +4
    Chinese Media: Russia's Liberal Opposition Shows Both Failure and Dependence

    But, it became well understood what part of our society, Western guardians will excite, educate !!!
    And this is not at all funny, even very dangerous !!!
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 24 January 2021 17: 46
    0
    The heaps and other liberals of the Novodvorsk spill are definitely mold and swelling on the body of the country. But to continue to sit stubbornly and hang out irreplaceable from position to position in the hope of minimal success, but in fact continue to go with the flow, tightening the screws along the way in order to sit for the same amount of time, this is certainly too much. the authorities will not be able to say a word without a crime, but at the same time we will happily wave flags at the behest and unanimously approve of the further transformation of our life into a life according to prison concepts and rejoice at the new extortions. ...
    1. cmax
      cmax 24 January 2021 18: 21
      0
      Quote: evgen1221
      The heaps and other liberals of the Novodvorsk spill are definitely mold and swelling on the body of the country. But to continue to sit stubbornly and hang out irreplaceable from position to position in the hope of minimal success, but in fact continue to go with the flow, tightening the screws along the way in order to sit for the same amount of time, this is certainly too much. the authorities will not be able to say a word without a crime, but at the same time we will happily wave flags at the behest and unanimously approve of the further transformation of our life into a life according to prison concepts and rejoice at the new extortions. ...

      They wrote almost about Belarus. The new Code of Administrative Offenses was written on March 1. All fines and penalties have increased significantly. Almost like in the song ,,,, there niiilzya, here niiilzya! It comes to anecdotes .. the woman had sports trousers (she went in for sports in a park like), the color is white red white, like stripes (I bought it 5 years ago). Detained - allegedly illegal symbols a fine of about 23000 rubles. At the height of democracy!
    2. Rzzz
      Rzzz 24 January 2021 19: 05
      +2
      Quote: evgen1221
      definitely mold and swelling on the country's body.

      I would rather call such epithets the forces that control our power.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 24 January 2021 19: 14
        -2
        Quote: rzzz
        those forces that

        The people, expect good from either one or the other.
        One is not better than the other.
  • Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 24 January 2021 17: 57
    +6
    Chinese Media: Russia's Liberal Opposition Shows Both Failure and Dependence
    as well as extreme scarcity.
    And in China, they believe that Moscow is a good city. Small, clean, quiet and few people. laughing
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 24 January 2021 18: 10
    +2
    How did it end?
    Someone to whom has proved / not proved something?! ..
    Again, I pass all the news ...
    Yes, and recently bought a new TV. Since April, I lived without a box at all.
    1. Redfox3k
      Redfox3k 25 January 2021 09: 09
      +1
      Three TVs stand - I don't watch one wassat
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 24 January 2021 18: 13
    -1
    The Chinese gave the correct assessment to our dumbbells.
  • Growlers
    Growlers 24 January 2021 18: 18
    +4
    The state behaves like it endured ...... There was one such character in history, Nicholas II, he endured the same, became a "saint"
    1. Freeman
      Freeman 24 January 2021 18: 31
      +1
      Quote: Growlers
      The state behaves like it endured ...... There was one such character in history, Nicholas II, he endured the same, became a "saint"

      Well, yes, how he "endured" January 9, 1905.
      And then, for several years, he gave the dissenters a "Stolypin tie".
      "Holy" and only. wassat
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 25 January 2021 13: 58
        0
        For that, in 1917, he became a spineless smear - why such characters in power lead the country to everyone, the last of them Yanukovych and Pashinyan are known.
      2. Growlers
        Growlers 26 January 2021 15: 35
        +3
        Learn history. You repeat the myths created by the liberals and confirmed and promoted by the Bolsheviks. On January 9, 1905, Nicholas II was not in the city. The decisions were taken and organized by completely different people. That, however, does not relieve the autocrat from responsibility. The first Russian revolution of 1905 was organized with Japanese money borrowed from the British. But the investors miscalculated a little, did not take into account the theft among the performers - "revolutionaries", the money was plundered and there was simply not enough for the "revolution". Sound familiar?
        1. Freeman
          Freeman 26 January 2021 17: 42
          +1
          Quote: Growlers
          Learn history. You repeat the myths created by the liberals and confirmed and promoted by the Bolsheviks. January 9, 1905 Nicholas II was not in the city. The decisions were made and organized by completely different people ...
          Sound familiar?


          During the "Tbilisi and Vilnius" events "Gorbachev was also" not in the city "and" the decisions were made by completely different people. "
          Sound familiar? / sarcasm /
          1. Growlers
            Growlers 26 January 2021 18: 49
            +4
            The "Tbilisi and Vilnius events" and many others are just a series of provocations, well organized by the special services. Yes, you are right, decisions were made by completely different people and not at all on the territory of the USSR. And Gorbachev, why is he either not a very smart person, or a scoundrel ... as they say, comments are unnecessary
  • kot423
    kot423 24 January 2021 18: 38
    0
    Quote: Stas157
    And about culture - well, no one to complain about it, using jargon and vulgarism in a public forum.

    Well, soryan, if YOU are so hurt by this, only one BUT: I see you, too, not from St. Petersburg, judging by your statements, most likely something like the village of Gadyukino, forgotten by God, enlightenment and education ...
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 26 January 2021 23: 38
      +1
      Quote: kot423
      only one BUT: I'm looking at you, also not from St. Petersburg, judging by your statements, most likely something like the village of Gadyukino, forgotten by God, enlightenment and education ...

      Do not understand. Why did you make such a far-reaching conclusion based on my comments?
  • SSR
    SSR 24 January 2021 19: 55
    +1
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Among the employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, there are many decent people, and there are many scum, as well as in other professions. I don't want a Ukrainian scenario for Russia at all.

    I apologize for my excessive emotionality, I have three friends in bulk, I'm tired of listening to their "arguments" about the palace and corruption, but none of them answers the question - will there be bulk and how will he "fix" everything?
    They clap their eyes, but there is no "democratic" answer !!!
    So I'm getting excited. Where can you find the truth? Only in the inner culture.
    As a policeman, the cop was right, he was in execution, as a man, he behaved like a ram, she just stood in front of her, push her shoulder and move on, but apparently he was already inflated. We also saw footage of how the guard was beaten, or how the guy from the lantern was thrown off and beaten.
  • Alsur
    Alsur 24 January 2021 19: 57
    0
    Quote: military_cat
    Bucha recently is in Korea, probably. The Korean president found a fortune-teller friend with a personal fund in the amount of something in the region of one-twentieth of the size of the fund of cellist Raldugin. Millions of Koreans went to Gwangwamun, the president of the village sat for a long time, and the Koreans chose another president (they did not have the question "if not her, then the cat?")

    One of the points of accusation of one of the presidents of South Korea (already a former and it seems to be a man, but I'm not sure), were the victims of the flooding of the ferry, he was accused of inaction, like the elderly captain. I read about this ferry. According to another version, those who led to the catastrophe did everything they could to accuse the captain and the president, so that the people would let down all the anger on them. Therefore, it is not worth rejoicing for the South Koreans, they are also cheated when someone really needs it and he is with money.
  • Tagan
    Tagan 24 January 2021 20: 22
    +2
    Quote: Prax1
    There is no such thing as an unauthorized meeting. According to the constitution, we have every right

    Sometimes it's better to remain silent. Especially when you don’t know anything.
    Administrative Code of the Russian Federation Article 20.2:
    1.1. Involvement of a minor in participation in an unauthorized meeting, meeting, demonstration, procession or picketing, if this action does not contain a criminal offense, -
    shall entail the imposition of an administrative fine on citizens in the amount of thirty thousand to fifty thousand rubles, or compulsory work for a period of twenty to one hundred hours, or an administrative arrest for a period of up to fifteen days; for officials - from fifty thousand to one hundred thousand rubles; for legal entities - from two hundred and fifty thousand to five hundred thousand rubles.
    About your rights, it is in your best interest to sniff in two holes. You have rights after your antics, like rabid dogs.
    1. Avior
      Avior 25 January 2021 03: 22
      -2
      unauthorized meeting, rally, demonstration, procession

      and the law, which says what is a sanctioned meeting, can you give? or what is an unauthorized rally?
      You see, in the Federal Law of June 19, 2004 No. 54-FZ "On Assemblies, Rallies, Demonstrations, Processions and Picketing" with all the changes, there is nothing about sanctioning rallies.
      Even mentions that such are in principle.
      http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_48103/
      1. poquello
        poquello 26 January 2021 00: 38
        0
        Quote: Avior
        and the law, which says what is a sanctioned meeting, can you give? or what is an unauthorized rally?

        dealing with an epidemic smoke
  • Tagan
    Tagan 24 January 2021 20: 26
    0
    Quote: Prax1
    There is no such thing as an unauthorized meeting. According to the constitution, we have every right

    It's time now to remember about responsibility.
  • bairat
    bairat 24 January 2021 20: 35
    +7
    Americans in the comments are surprised that Russian demonstrators do not rob shops))
  • APASUS
    APASUS 24 January 2021 20: 42
    +2
    It is not surprising that the US embassy practically supported the protest, our reaction to this is surprising. To demand the embassy to withdraw all records and apologize or to leave the country in its entirety within 24 hours. In the US itself we would simply be imprisoned, I do not even consider deportation options.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 24 January 2021 20: 57
    +1
    In Eidhoven (Holland) at a temperature of +1, the police used water cannons against the protesters, the protesters threw firecrackers at the police! Here are the monsters! The temperature ceiling in Free Europe is set for the use of water cannons. good
  • Charik
    Charik 24 January 2021 20: 58
    -2
    Putinoids here? How do you like the palace of the king "Brekhun 13th" -you like? Through Alyoshka, all the famous "shoals" of the Vovkins are poured out, and drip it into their eyes. war with Russia - you can buy everything from Putin
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 24 January 2021 21: 20
      +1
      For a start, look at who it belongs to according to the cadastre. Praskovevka was on a business trip twice, the SLE systems In the Krasnodar Territory, back in 2007 08, all the bones were washed, when they were still making the way there, he is too small for him, not his style. Believe on any nonsense ...
    2. Dart2027
      Dart2027 24 January 2021 21: 26
      0
      Quote: Charik
      The lie-rotting West-NATO will attack us, but who needs it-war with Russia-you can buy everything from Putin

      How many times Putin leaked everything, do you remind me?
      1. Charik
        Charik 19 February 2021 15: 54
        +1
        ask the mustache, he counts
  • Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 24 January 2021 22: 05
    0
    There are people in the photo. There are almost no hyped children.
    And the Ukrainians and the Chinese are not to be seen either ...
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 25 January 2021 00: 08
    0
    It's good that in the winter it got all out It's cold, it gets dark early. Now all the leaders will be tied up and it will be quiet for a while.
  • Slipper 2
    Slipper 2 25 January 2021 04: 09
    -1
    I hope that the full term for anal xoxl will be more than a penny drinks
  • Tagan
    Tagan 25 January 2021 06: 22
    +2
    Quote: Avior
    unauthorized meeting, rally, demonstration, procession

    and the law, which says what is a sanctioned meeting, can you give? or what is an unauthorized rally?
    You see, in the Federal Law of June 19, 2004 No. 54-FZ "On Assemblies, Rallies, Demonstrations, Processions and Picketing" with all the changes, there is nothing about sanctioning rallies.
    Even mentions that such are in principle.
    http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_48103/


    Federal Law of 19.06.2004 N 54-FZ (as amended on 30.12.2020) "On meetings, rallies, demonstrations, processions and picketing"
    Read carefully.
    It is not enough for you that there is a definition of an assembly, a meeting, etc. and the order of their conduct?
    Maybe you stupidly need the word "authorized" or "unauthorized"?
    1. Avior
      Avior 26 January 2021 01: 16
      +1
      Naturally you need
      If the term is used, the law must be defined unambiguously and without ambiguity.
      The rules for holding rallies do not say any sanctions against him
  • Silinvv
    Silinvv 25 January 2021 11: 24
    +1
    I look at the photos, young people, well dressed, all with expensive phones. We need a list, those who are studying at a university and college on a budget should be transferred to commercial. Not ready to pay - free. All should be deprived of budgetary funding, if any.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 25 January 2021 14: 58
    +1
    But how can they be shown "independence" if they are basically deprived of independence? There, either an ignoramus is a bum, or a puppet of Western special forces on a salary. winked
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 25 January 2021 17: 11
    +1

    Navalny was presented for the award:
  • Tagan
    Tagan 26 January 2021 09: 30
    0
    Quote: Avior
    Naturally you need
    If the term is used, the law must be defined unambiguously and without ambiguity.
    The rules for holding rallies do not say any sanctions against him

    This is just your personal interpretation.
    You are again inattentive.
    It is written: "The holding of meetings, rallies, demonstrations, marches and picketing for the purpose of pre-election campaigning, campaigning on referendum issues is regulated by this Federal Law and the LEGISLATION of the Russian Federation on elections and referendums."
    The rules are meant to be followed. That's why they rules.
    Sanctions are a measure of impact. "Sanctions" for cases of violations are described in the Code of Administrative Offenses (Code of Administrative Offenses) (if it does not contain a criminal offense).
    An "unauthorized" rally appears in the Administrative Code. Interestingly, what could be a double interpretation in the legislation of "unauthorized" other than "unauthorized"? When applied to a rally, "unauthorized" / "unauthorized" are definitions.

    Modern explanatory dictionary of the Russian language by Efremova: unauthorized - not receiving official permission, consent; carried out without the approval of any authority (government, city hall, etc.).
    Therefore, in the context of legislation, it is precisely "unauthorized" that is used just for an unambiguous interpretation.
  • spolo
    spolo 26 January 2021 11: 26
    0
    Nemtsov answered for the market, right now it's Lyoshka's turn. Save money for heating
  • poquello
    poquello 26 January 2021 21: 13
    0
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Quote: poquello
    straight as it is written)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))), shoes - special means?

    With the availability of special equipment, it is necessary to use them, as it was before by law. And special means are used only in cases stipulated by the law, everything else is at least an excess. It is believed that a special tool, with its correct use, is less traumatic than everything else. But again, there are plenty of restrictions on its use.

    What are you talking about? just like the situation was not seen, there was no time to think - kicked and did the right thing
    Statistics show a constant increase in the number of dead and wounded employees of the internal affairs bodies. Every year 400 employees die from the hands of criminals and more than 1000 are injured.
    It is known that the main motives behind the attack by criminals on employees of the internal affairs bodies are as follows: to avoid detention; take possession of employees' firearms; hooligan motives; inadequate response to the remarks of police officers.
  • Charik
    Charik 19 February 2021 15: 59
    0
    Stink, stones, luxury, poverty. Debauchery. The villains who have robbed the people have gathered, they have recruited soldiers and judges to guard their orgy, and they feast. The people have nothing more to do than, using the passions of these people, to lure back the loot from them. Guys are more agile at this. The women are at home, the men are rubbing the floors and bodies in the baths, and they carry them in cabs. "