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Semin: This is a protest of some capitalists against others

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Semin: This is a protest of some capitalists against others

A considerable number of people calling themselves "leftists" took to the streets of Russian cities with demands in the style of "Freedom to Navalny!" Konstantin Semin speaks about this in the next issue of his "Agitprop".


He notes that at the same time, supporters of "left" ideas, after Navalny's return to Russia from Germany, found themselves in a strange position. On the one hand, they understood that the protest was not theirs at all, on the other hand, they realized that “one could use it”: “A spark will kindle a flame” - all that ...

According to Semin, he deliberately releases his video "late" so that "it would not occur to someone to accuse him of working for the Kremlin and trying to sabotage the protest."

At the same time, the journalist notes that he still has many questions. One of them: "Why is Navalny behind bars, and the oligarchs continue to dissect on yachts?"

Konstantin Semin with irony:

I was supposed to be with them (with the protesters), but I stayed at home - to sit on the sofa.

Syomin is trying to explain why he did not use the theses of Vladimir Lenin that communists can go out to rallies together with liberals, and only then, having achieved one goal, go "their own way."

According to Semin, the protest on January 23 is "a protest by some capitalists against other capitalists."

Material either with explanations of the position, or with an attempt to justify in front of someone in the plot of "Agitprop":

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  1. SaLaR
    SaLaR 24 January 2021 13: 49
    -3
    Well, yes ... the gentlemen are fighting, and the forelocks of the slaves are cracking ...
    1. Finches
      Finches 24 January 2021 13: 57
      +6
      The protest on January 23 is rather a protest of some young "duremar", "spiritually rich" virgins and 40-s youths with a "fine mental organization" against ... themselves! When you see them, you immediately remember the benefits that Soviet punitive psychiatry brought to society!
      I don't see politics and economics here, I see idio.tism paid for by the State Department and no more! Unfortunately, I don't see normal leftists in Russia either!
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 24 January 2021 13: 58
        +13
        "I have peace with Abdullah. After all, everything is one for me, whether white or red, or Abdullah or you.
        If I went with you, then it's another matter. "
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 24 January 2021 14: 07
          +8
          If I went with you, then it's another matter

          "Well, what's the matter? Come on." drinks
          1. Achilles
            Achilles 24 January 2021 14: 27
            +22
            Revolutions are conceived by romantics, carried out by fanatics, and scoundrels use its fruits, so it was before, now this phrase has lost its relevance. Revolutions in our time are conceived by scoundrels, and carried out by fools (those who came out on 23.01.). And only the beneficiary remained the same. Do you think that the Berlin patient wants everyone to be happy for the country? Beautiful Russia of the Future? By no means, he, or rather those who created him, want to be at the trough, receiving the maximum benefit from the implementation of their business project called the revolution in Russia.
            1. WIKI
              WIKI 24 January 2021 14: 41
              +12
              Quote: Achilles
              Do you think the Berlin patient wants everyone to be happy for the country?

              I do not know what he really wants, but at the intermediate stage, the best option for the country would be to hold fair elections, without his personal participation in them.
              1. military_cat
                military_cat 25 January 2021 05: 48
                -7
                Semin: not my protest

                Certainly not his protest. How can a communist protest against the privileges of the nomenklatura?
              2. james
                james 25 January 2021 09: 19
                +6
                Are you sure that fair elections will lead to the country's best leader? Surely it will be the one who has more money for the elections + talented demagoguery and populism, etc.
                1. WIKI
                  WIKI 25 January 2021 13: 29
                  +3
                  Quote: james
                  For sure

                  But only "for sure", but not 100%. A fair election involves open debate between candidates. A thinking person is able to determine where is the truth and where is the lie. And "talented demagoguery and populism" can have sad consequences in the future. And keep in mind that fair elections cannot happen by themselves. Before that, serious changes must be made to the electoral legislation and the judicial system. The capacity of public organizations to protect human rights has been increased. It gets ridiculous. The Commissioner for Human Rights in the Russian Federation, Ms. Moskalkova, is transformed into a branch of the Russian Post.
            2. Deck
              Deck 24 January 2021 14: 55
              +7
              People did not marry the "Berlin patient" but rather against the "Kremlin figurant".
              1. Finches
                Finches 24 January 2021 15: 23
                +7
                Where did you see the people there? 500 thugs on average in cities with a population of over a million, and then, basically, children are unreasonable ... Given the aggressive campaigning in social networks, all this booze within the country falls under the characteristic - the Mountain gave birth to a mouse! laughing But for the western layman it will. Now they will spread all the media about the beating of defenseless children by riot police, about the "tyranny" of the Kremlin, but when the guards shot a girl during the storming of the Capitol, for some reason other slogans were heard all over the world - about the triumph of democracy! Therefore, I personally regard such actions in our country exclusively as a betrayal of the national interests of Russia - therefore, I would fully justify mass shootings (of adult instigators)!
                1. nsm1
                  nsm1 24 January 2021 15: 45
                  +5
                  This is the beginning.
                  The demonstrators are aggressive against the former, immediately engage in fights with the gendarmerie.
                  The people are filled with anger and discontent.
                  It will get worse further.
                  1. Deck
                    Deck 24 January 2021 16: 54
                    -2
                    Then we'll look at the local riot policemen
                  2. james
                    james 25 January 2021 09: 16
                    +3
                    Where did you see the people? A bunch of ignoramuses + activists on a salary from the Anglo-Saxon "democracy" are not the people.
                    1. nsm1
                      nsm1 25 January 2021 09: 26
                      -3
                      The people around me.
                      There are no satisfied people at all - the standard of living is decreasing all the time.
                      And undergrowth, because impulsive - they simply broadcast general moods.
                      It's exactly the same people.
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              3. Tatyana
                Tatyana 24 January 2021 15: 38
                +1
                Quote: Deck
                According to Semin, the protest on January 23 is "a protest by some capitalists against other capitalists."
                That's right!
                Quote: Deck
                People did not marry the "Berlin patient" but rather against the "Kremlin figurant".

                Precisely with appeals for the naive: "For all good versus all bad!" - this maydanny protest of some capitalists against other capitalists with a coup d'etat in Ukraine in 2014 in banderzhny Kiev began!

                And who came and is now in power "at the top" of the supposedly "independent" Ukraine?
                And whose ears are sticking out - including from across the ocean - in this "UNNOFULNESS" of Ukraine?
                Where are the election promises of the President of Ukraine Zelensky?
                And how many ordinary Ukrainians have become richer?
                1. Phil77
                  Phil77 25 January 2021 11: 29
                  -1
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Ukraine Zelensky

                  That's not boring, huh?
              4. Pereira
                Pereira 24 January 2021 15: 53
                +4
                People did not marry the "Berlin patient" but rather against the "Kremlin figurant".

                A lot of effort is being made to keep this simple idea from spreading. The thesis that apart from the Kremlin and Berlin there is a third force - the people - is clearly prohibited in the media.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 24 January 2021 18: 02
                  0
                  Quote: Pereira
                  Thesis that besides the Kremlin and Berlin, there is a third force - the people, the media are clearly banned.

                  And the PEOPLE as the "third force" is, in your opinion, exactly who?
                  For just a CROWD of protesters to count as the whole nation is a manipulative deception and a political utopia!
                  The crowd of protesters is a minority of the people and at the same time it is necessary to know exactly which part of it.

                  And if the LEGITIME government gives up power every time unknown crowd, then the state will quickly plunge into ANARCHY.
                  1. Pereira
                    Pereira 24 January 2021 18: 48
                    +1
                    The people are people in the literal sense of the word - people who are trying to manipulate in their own interests both the authorities and the sorrows. By the third force, I mean those who are equally bored and disgusted by both sides.

                    Are you personally ready to shoot unknown crowd, beat with a stick, pour water on for the sake of a LEGITIME government?
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 24 January 2021 19: 09
                      +1
                      Yes, stop working with your Ukrainian and Tikhanov manners according to American manuals!
                      The crowd of protesters yells very specific slogans "for" and "against" someone and something!
                      The question is, what are these protesters themselves?

                      This is always, as a rule, the usual 5th column, "manipulatively controlled and financially sponsored from abroad and fired up at its protests in the interests of foreign powers. And nothing more.
                      It includes advanced traitors to their homeland, corrupt marginal people and lumpen, whom American political scientists and economists have long called "useful goers" for the United States.
                      In general, not so much the people as their social FOAM.
                      1. Pereira
                        Pereira 24 January 2021 19: 26
                        0
                        When they try to tie me to Ukraine, it is incredibly amusing. This immediately betrays the opponent's horizons. You have no idea how badly you missed.
                        If you want to tell me that Xixiang is the leader of the fifth column, don't waste your time. I can make it more convincing.
                        But one should not consider the people as stupid cattle, incapable of their own opinion and not seeing their fundamental interests.
                        Lukashenka has already made such a mistake. Now he does not know how to turn the minced meat back.
                        I look at various sites and clearly see animal horror in the calls for reprisals. Horror in front of a group of outcasts. And the realization that if the people stir up it is not a fact that the Grefs and Chubais will have time to jump on the planes. And the people will simply trample Sisyan and will not notice. He will not even reach Kerensky.
                      2. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 24 January 2021 19: 41
                        -2
                        Yes sisyan in general - a doormat on Merkel's mop! This is the first thing.
                        Quote: Pereira
                        But one should not consider the people as stupid cattle, incapable of their own opinion and not seeing their fundamental interests.

                        It looks like you are from Belarus on the side of Tikhanovskaya.
                        It is not the people - an abstract concept as a community of people - that have their own opinion, but a single person. Whatever educational program you put into a person, he is guided by that program in life. This is especially true of adolescents and young people - they are politically the most mentally dumb tool for the good of their fatherland in the hands of Machiavellian actors from abroad. Enemies can be written on their brains like on a blank sheet of paper. anything. Amenable to training for cookies, like Pavlov's dogs.
                      3. Pereira
                        Pereira 24 January 2021 20: 58
                        +2
                        No, I'm not from Belarus.
                        Tikhanovskaya is funny to me. Luka the Two-Stalked - a cunning peasant son - outwitted himself. And he raised a pro-Western opposition for himself. I have said for a long time that he will play out in a multi-vector approach.
                        Now a third force is needed in Belarus too. Here are just pro-Russian forces Luke cleaned out. There is no one to change him to. Not in the Light of Guaido, is it?
                        As for our youth, giving in to the promises of the West, let me ask, but from our side, who works with the youth? Something I haven't heard for a long time
                        about the gathering at Seliger. Where have the youth leaders gone? Grew up, matured, moved to the West?
                        Patriotic forces are marginalized. What the media claims to be patriotism is a smokescreen, nothing more. The oligarch does not need youth. Uzbeks are more profitable.
                        And what do you demand from undergrowth in these conditions?
                      4. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 24 January 2021 23: 26
                        0
                        Quote: Go
                        And what do you demand from undergrowth in these conditions?

                        You do not consider the work of foreign special services for our children and adolescents via the Internet. Namely.
                        On the Internet, there are inherently provocative, anti-Russian-sabotage social networks with moderators from abroad for Russian teenagers and children. They work in the same way as in the Republic of Belarus.
                        The expert talks about this well in the video below. Watch video from 47:20 min. Is Tik Tok a new HEXTA?
                        I will not retell, because he expounds better than me.

                        URGENT | Navalny uses teenagers in actions | Is Tik Tok a new HEXTA? | SMERSH 22.01.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX See from 47:20 min.

                        Video content:
                        00:00 - Navalny uses teenagers in actions
                        15:47 - Echo of Moscow calls for rallies
                        26:40 - What are the consequences of the involvement of minors in rallies?
                        47: 41 - Is Tik Tok a new HEXTA?
                        1:04:17 - Orthodoxy is in danger
                      5. Pereira
                        Pereira 25 January 2021 08: 43
                        -1
                        Yes it does and will use it.
                        The question is, why don't teenagers go to rallies in support of Putin?
                        Where is the counterpropaganda?
                        You can scold teenagers, you can beat them, you can feel sorry. But when they grow up, it will no longer be Putin's electorate. But those in power don't give a damn about it. When these children grow up, the rulers will leave Russia.
                    2. The eye of the crying
                      The eye of the crying 25 January 2021 15: 14
                      -5
                      Quote: Pereira
                      There is no one to change him to. Not in the Light of Guaido, is it?


                      You are not in the subject. Tikhanovskaya is not going to replace Lukashenko. She only promises new elections.
                    3. Pereira
                      Pereira 25 January 2021 15: 15
                      +1
                      Oh thank you. I immediately respect her for it.
                    4. The eye of the crying
                      The eye of the crying 25 January 2021 15: 17
                      -3
                      It is so important to her.
                    5. Pereira
                      Pereira 25 January 2021 15: 19
                      +2
                      It’s a lot of things. Hockey is very important to her. It turns out.
                    6. The eye of the crying
                      The eye of the crying 25 January 2021 15: 20
                      -4
                      In my reality, hockey is completely irrelevant to her.
      2. Phil77
        Phil77 25 January 2021 11: 34
        -1
        Quote: Tatiana
        social FOAM

        But more about that! I saw social foam in 91. What? You haven't seen?
  • Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 24 January 2021 18: 36
    +7
    People did not marry the "Berlin patient" but rather against the "Kremlin figurant".


    To me, from the outside, too, it seems so. This clown Navalny has nothing to do with it - this fight with or without him will still be held under the slogan "peace to huts, war to palaces." In Russians, a deeply innate sense of justice, as if it is not enough in a neo-feudal, oligarchic state.

    This has already happened.
  • Icarus
    Icarus 25 January 2021 10: 41
    +1
    Do you think the Berlin patient wants everyone to be happy for the country? Beautiful Russia of the Future? By no means, he, or rather those who created him, want to be at the trough, getting the maximum benefit from the implementation of their business project called the revolution in Russia.
    I agree. The fact of the matter is that Navalny is not for changing the existing system of power and the constitution, but for its insignificant modernization, and of becoming president himself (he has already announced such intentions). Therefore, he is not even a companion for the patriotic forces.
  • Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 24 January 2021 15: 12
    +4
    -Come on?
    -Let's go to.
    -Do not go! Don't go with them! They will ruin you for a penny!
    -That's what, guys, I won't give you a machine gun.
  • Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 14: 22
    -2
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    If I went with you, then it's another matter. "

    Will you give me a machine gun? ©
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    1. paul3390
      paul3390 24 January 2021 14: 43
      +9
      By your age, you should already have your own .. wink
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 24 January 2021 15: 21
        +7
        Quote: paul3390
        you already need to have your own
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 24 January 2021 15: 13
      +1
      -That's what, guys, I won't give you a machine gun.
      1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 16: 52
        -5
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        -That's what, guys, I won't give you a machine gun.

        We understand ... Peacocks, you say? Heh ...
  • SaLaR
    SaLaR 24 January 2021 14: 01
    0
    It just doesn't smell like idiocy here ... The fact that they run around does not mean that the goal is in this ... Money does not sink into the void ...
    1. Finches
      Finches 24 January 2021 14: 06
      -7
      Go.otism is the perception of normal and adequate people!
  • Alexga
    Alexga 24 January 2021 14: 01
    +8
    Eugene, there is a war going on, which for us began with the beginning of the collapse of the Union. And this whole audience is the usual instrument of this war.
    1. Finches
      Finches 24 January 2021 14: 08
      +1
      The war against us on the part of the Anglo-Saxon world never ended!
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 24 January 2021 14: 11
        +1
        That's what I'm talking about. And for them it is not important whether it is the Soviet Union or the Russian Federation. There is a goal - to conquer these territories. And there are various methods for this.
      2. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 24 January 2021 16: 31
        0
        Quote: Finches
        The war against us on the part of the Anglo-Saxon world never ended!
        No need to translate the arrows from the Jewish Masons to the Anglo-Saxons!
        1. Finches
          Finches 24 January 2021 16: 34
          +3
          Jew Masons, this is a product of the Anglo-Saxons! That's the problem!
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 24 January 2021 18: 03
            0
            Quote: Finches
            Jew Masons, this is a product of the Anglo-Saxons! That's the problem!

            Zhidomason are above all - everyone knew this in the 90s. soldier
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 24 January 2021 14: 25
      +1
      Quote: AlexGa
      Eugene, there is a war going on, which for us began with the beginning of the collapse of the Union. And this whole audience is the usual instrument of this war.

      good drinks
      Indeed, the mass of the lower strata, unable to live in the old way, and the mass of the upper strata, unwilling to live in the old way, did not acquire a critical mass. Are all the protesters there? Those who went for babos and just gawk at the majority. And perhaps among the "protesters" there were no people in civilian clothes, cadets of schools, just policemen and representatives of special services, in order to react in time and neutralize especially violent and uncontrollable Children and adolescents, this is just for fun. So, the next trick of the position on the suction due to the fence failed once again. However, the authorities must think about justice. There should be no retirees rummaging through trash cans looking for suitable clothing and food leftovers. Not every day, but I see it. There should not be beggars-handicapped beggars whom all sorts of Moldovans herd. Miller-Chubais should not receive a salary of 100 thousand (if not more) times more than an ordinary employee of a state institution, especially in such a deplorable state of affairs. Before the new year, a loaf in our store cost 30 rubles, now 50, And when it starts to cost 100 rubles, do you think, it will please me, a working pensioner. I cannot afford a trip to a sanatorium with my ailments, even at the expense of the union. I can't even go on sick leave, because it's not profitable. Where is this Russia, in which a doctor receives an average of 90 thousand? Help me get there. I really need to go there, suddenly I will have time.
      For me, it’s not a question who is nasty and why such people should be thrown out of the country. This is not even Trotsky and Sverdlov in one glass, or even Parvus. This is the enemy. I hope that he will be forced to return to the treasury at least what he stole in Kirov with metro Gaidar and the former governor.
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 24 January 2021 14: 28
        +5
        I absolutely agree with you! We are now reaping the fruits of our foolishness thirty years ago.
      2. Revival
        Revival 24 January 2021 15: 55
        +7
        "There should be no retirees rummaging in garbage cans in search of suitable clothes and food leftovers. Not every day, but I see it. There should not be beggars-handicapped beggars whom all sorts of Moldovans herd. Miller-Chubais should not receive a salary of 100 thousand (if not more) times more than an ordinary employee of a state institution, especially in such a deplorable state of affairs. "

        Well, why, we must endure it forever, if it does not pass by itself.
        The people deserve what they have.
        Apparently he did not deserve more.

        And then whatever happened ...
        All this discontent is from the State Department and nothing else.
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 24 January 2021 17: 02
          +1
          Quote: Revival
          And then whatever happened ...
          All this discontent is from the State Department and nothing else.

          blah-blah-blah .... the well-fed protest against the well-fed. I saw who went to the "protests" in our city and in Moscow. It's good that we don't have an American embassy. Otherwise, to the tune of the American Embassy, ​​the crowd would have been hanging around in the center. Just like in \ in Ukraine. A hundred years ago, workers in defense factories received cash allowances during a strike. From whom? And who persuaded Nicholas II to abdicate six months before renouncing? Why did Brother George refuse to grant asylum to Tsar Nicholas 2 on the advice of the Minister of Foreign Affairs of England? The appearance of Fridman's son among the demonstrators in Moscow is very symptomatic, is he in a hurry to demonstrate loyalty to American ideals? Who is Friedman? Do not remind your biography, what did you climb?
          1. Revival
            Revival 24 January 2021 17: 16
            +2
            Something is not entirely clear why you were setting out all this.

            "" There should be no retirees rummaging through trash cans looking for suitable clothing and food leftovers. Not every day, but I see it. There should not be beggars-beggars for the disabled, whom all sorts of Moldovans herd. Miller-Chubais should not receive a salary of 100 thousand (if not more) times more than an ordinary employee of a state institution, especially in such a deplorable state of affairs. "

            With this, what do you suggest?
            Or is Friedman's son among these?
            Or if these did not come out then deserve what they have?
  • paul3390
    paul3390 24 January 2021 14: 02
    +11
    Unfortunately, I don't see normal leftists in Russia either!

    A phrase about a gopher - to quote?
    1. Finches
      Finches 24 January 2021 14: 08
      -2
      I would like to see these gophers! laughing
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 24 January 2021 14: 10
        +5
        Yes, there are a lot of them, very different. From Trotskyists and Maoists to loyal Stalinists. Just don't be lazy to search.
        1. Finches
          Finches 24 January 2021 14: 11
          -2
          I'm talking about adequate, not paranoid - who have a strong theoretical base, a sane economic program and people with the appropriate charisma!
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 24 January 2021 14: 13
            +3
            Are the RCWP paranoid for you? Or the same late Nina Andreeva? Can you like the National Bolsheviks more? wink
          2. Revival
            Revival 24 January 2021 15: 56
            +4
            If available, in a day it can suddenly sit down for ... but you never know for what
        2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 14: 29
          -6
          Quote: paul3390
          Yes, there are a lot of them, very different. From Trotskyists and Maoists to loyal Stalinists. Just don't be lazy to search.

          What's the point of these hobby groups? They bring carnations to the grave in March, whine in the nets, lick Soviet history to a sugary splint - what else? What would change if they chanted in chorus "Glory to Comrade Stalin!"? Will Putin light his pipe and speak with a Georgian accent? Will the triplets work?
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 24 January 2021 14: 45
            +8
            What more do you want? Right tomorrow to storm the Kremlin? Alas - but 30 years of capitalism have pretty much fucked up people's brains, and the first task of the communists is to clean them .. Even in such a difficult and neglected case as yours - you still have to try .. laughing
            1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 14: 52
              -8
              ... Even in such a difficult and neglected case as yours, you still have to try

              Don't bother, I'm immune to the Reds.
              1. paul3390
                paul3390 24 January 2021 15: 56
                +6
                Don't bother, I'm immune to the Reds.

                Nothing, it will be necessary - we'll kick it off .. bully We will catch, reeducate and make a true communist out of you, we are not afraid of difficulties. laughing However, for some reason it seems to me that when the Union is restored, you yourself will come for a membership card .. tongue
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  • Lionnvrsk
    Lionnvrsk 24 January 2021 14: 42
    +2
    Quote: Finches
    I don't see politics and economics here, I see idio.tism paid for by the State Department and no more! Unfortunately, I don't see normal leftists in Russia either!

    “There is one important political nuance. The regional elites and parts of the lower and middle bureaucracy benefit from protests. They do not support them directly or even indirectly. But not much and interfere with the rallies. It's simple. Moscow's policy deprives them of their former privileges. The food supply is narrowing throughout the country. The bureaucracy does not benefit from a situation in which the country is in the position of a besieged fortress. It’s in vain that for 20 years they have been transferring stolen funds to the West, sending children there, buying real estate in order to spend the rest of their lives there on retirement, ”Tatar political scientist Ruslan Aisin.
    “The organizers of the protests are not navalists. They would not have pulled it, the gut is thin and there is no organizational resource. They are wolves. And these wolves are not about politics. These wolves are about politics and money. This is not a conditional "State Department". There will still be a "State Department", don't worry. He is still just recovering. It's all from the inside. And the money was from the inside. And the money was big. And this construction is carried out by people with the experience of commercial wars, when it is necessary not to dump the opponent, but to make them feel their weakness, ”Professor D. Evstafiev, Russian political scientist-Americanist, expert on military-political issues of Russian national security, US military and foreign policy and regional problems of nuclear nonproliferation. In Political Science, Professor at the Higher School of Economics.
    1. nsm1
      nsm1 24 January 2021 15: 48
      +1
      Quote: LIONnvrsk
      The situation is not beneficial to the bureaucracy
      And this is not beneficial to everyone.
      And the robbery of the regions got Moscow.
      In this, the bureaucracy is absolutely one with the people, from a beggar to a capitalist.
      We all live together.
    2. depressant
      depressant 25 January 2021 11: 02
      +3
      Colleague LIONnvrsk, your comment seemed to me the most reasonable, closest to the truth. Especially this one:

      "Moscow's policy deprives them of their former privileges. The food supply throughout the country is shrinking."

      This refers to bureaucracy. Thanks for the point of view.
  • Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 15: 03
    -7
    ... about the benefits that Soviet punitive psychiatry brought to society!

    And you, by any chance, are not her patient?
    1. Finches
      Finches 24 January 2021 15: 25
      -2
      I am rather a doctor ... laughing
  • Baloo
    Baloo 25 January 2021 19: 43
    0
    Quote: Finches
    I don't see politics and economics here, I see idio.tism paid for by the State Department and no more! Unfortunately, I don't see normal leftists in Russia either!

    I watched the news with pictures of peaceful, raging youth in Moscow on January 23. And I had a question: no one thought to test the detainees for drugs, for example, amphetamine and other chemistry? For the narwhal family, this is a family business. They don't give a damn that children could be hurt, old people, just passers-by. And what do we know about the father-in-law? A former diplomat, worked in a mission in New York, and for what merits did he receive American citizenship? I'm not talking about real estate behind the fence of the most nasty. Daughter at Stanford. Fumble report in Lancet: 24 coma. This is for housewives, I won't even comment. On what day of "coma" we saw a selfie of the navral in fumbling on the stairs without any catheters, quite in good health ... Think, Protestants.
  • Yuriy Malyshko
    Yuriy Malyshko 25 January 2021 23: 51
    +1
    It is immediately evident that you, Zyablitsev, do not even follow the development of the political situation in the country. Otherwise they would have known that there is such a Platoshkin N.N.
    1. Finches
      Finches 26 January 2021 07: 44
      0
      I corresponded with him, or rather with his Petersburg party cell, but on the whole I was a little disappointed in Platoshkin ... He is not serious!
  • figwam
    figwam 24 January 2021 13: 57
    +2
    Nicholas II, the same Western capitalists overthrew, and the power in the country was seized by the communists.
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 24 January 2021 14: 04
      +10
      Then - capitalism in Russia was not mature and experienced, therefore, this trick and channel. Noneshny kapitalyugi - they'll let you do it a second time.
    2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 14: 31
      -3
      Quote: figvam
      Nicholas II, the same Western capitalists overthrew, and the power in the country was seized by the communists.

      And when did Kerensky join the RSDLP?
  • Avior
    Avior 24 January 2021 13: 53
    +3
    With "other capitalists" it is clear, but who are "some capitalists" as it is not quite clear.
    1. Koval Sergey
      Koval Sergey 24 January 2021 14: 03
      +11
      No, just everything is clear - the power in the country is rotten, it enrages the people, and foreigners want to push through their interests on this.
  • paul3390
    paul3390 24 January 2021 14: 00
    +5
    I think so too. What difference does it make to us who will represent the oligarchy on the throne - Putin or Navalny? This is not our war, so there is nothing to waste in vain. But it is necessary - to prepare intensively for ours, which aims at the return of Soviet power. And yet they are dividing the palaces among themselves - one hell, sooner or later there will be a Palace of Pioneers ..
    1. qQQQ
      qQQQ 24 January 2021 14: 23
      +5
      Quote: paul3390
      I think so too. What difference does it make to us who will represent the oligarchy on the throne - Putin or Navalny? This is not our war

      Better not tell.
    2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 14: 36
      -4
      ... But it is necessary - to prepare intensively for ours, which aims at the return of Soviet power.

      Curious, how are you going to prepare? Diamonds in a chair, a supply of buckwheat salt and a door with enhanced security?
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 24 January 2021 14: 47
        +3
        Join the party - they will tell you. Maybe they will even give you buckwheat personally .. To maintain the revolutionary spirit ..
        1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 14: 56
          -1
          Quote: paul3390
          Join the party - they will tell you ..

          What exactly? How hard to wait for the Second Coming of Soviet power?
          Do you have a sect there by chance?
          ... even buckwheat will be given .. To maintain the revolutionary spirit

          Yes, judging by your flatulence, you have peas there for the 'spirit' laughing
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 24 January 2021 15: 59
            +3
            Do you have to be farted with chanel and lobster? laughing Amazing manners for yesterday's plebeian .. belay
            1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 17: 00
              -5
              ... Striking manners for yesterday's plebeian

              Well, I’m even yesterday, okay. And you are eternal.
        2. Deck
          Deck 24 January 2021 14: 58
          +5
          I would join, but I don't know how to cross laughing
          1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 23: 05
            -1
            Quote: Deck
            I would join, but I don't know how to cross laughing



            - O Gena, what blasphemy! - exclaimed Father Zvezdoniy and, raising his eyes to the portrait of Genialissimus, devoutly re-starred.

            (C)
    3. Achilles
      Achilles 24 January 2021 14: 40
      -10%
      Quote: paul3390
      I think so too. What difference does it make to us who will represent the oligarchy on the throne - Putin or Navalny? This is not our war, so there is nothing to waste in vain.

      Putin at least does not attach Russia, he raised the Army, the world weight of Russia too, which is what the whole West has said about Russia and Putin (+ who travels around the world, he knows when they see a Russian man, they often raise a finger and say Putin, Russia , good, even foreigners see what Putin has done and is doing for Russia, but apart from us), and how they write with boiling water, just to arrange a revolution with us and destroy Russia, this all confirms that Putin will not give and will not surrender Russia to the West. But Navalny who receives money from across the hill will sell and hand over everything. So there is a difference, and what a difference
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 24 January 2021 14: 50
        +7
        Putin will not give and will not surrender Russia to the West

        In your opinion, the surrender of strategic enterprises to the bourgeoisie, the epic withdrawal of capital from the country to the West, the rabid trade in resources, blind adherence to the requirements of the IMF and other bourgeois organizations, other achievements of Putinism are like independence from the WEST ??? belay
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 24 January 2021 14: 56
        +7
        Quote: Achilles
        Putin at least does not attach Russia, he raised the Army, the world weight of Russia too

        Betrays. The army seems to have been raised, but the military-industrial complex is still in the priest. There is no industry at all, import substitution has resulted in a change in the market. All around imports, from electronics to underpants. Demography, education, medicine are a failure in all directions.
        World weight? Do not tell, SP-2 is still pedaling.
        Regarding Navalny, somewhere there was a phrase "It gets scary when you look at whom your saviors look like."
        I agree with Semin on the issue, but it is perplexing that instead of trying to lead the protest like the Bolsheviks, he only denounces the essence of what is happening.
        1. Achilles
          Achilles 24 January 2021 15: 12
          -3
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          World weight? Do not tell, SP-2 is still pedaling.

          What does the world weight and joint venture have to do with it? Whether at least someone, the ruler in Russia, almost all world capital belongs to the West (globalist corporations), they want to do what they want, and even before Putin, our entire economy was connected with them and who will let you rise? we are competitors (we are not China with cheap labor). Everyone criticizes, well, I'm waiting for proposals on how to get away from the global finance system of the West, which is entangled everywhere, everything is connected with it. Now the countries are slowly moving away from dollar dependence, slowly, of course, but still moving in this direction. Now the game is going on for a long time, we'll see who wins
        2. Revival
          Revival 24 January 2021 16: 02
          +10
          "The army seems to have been raised, but the military-industrial complex is still in the priest. There is no industry at all."

          Here is the question, everyone understands what awaits the army, in a conflict longer than a "month", if there is no powerful industry behind it?
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 24 January 2021 17: 25
            +3
            Quote: Revival
            what awaits the army in a conflict longer than a "month" if there is no powerful industry behind it?

            Yes, after all, no one canceled the loss, and it is complete nonsense to change the new knocked-out equipment from the warehouses. request
            1. Revival
              Revival 24 January 2021 17: 47
              +5
              Quite right, that is why "raising the army" without raising the industry, in the end, in effect will be equal to populist props, having in mind the ultimate goal of effectively protecting and defeating
        3. paul3390
          paul3390 24 January 2021 16: 02
          -2
          that instead of trying to lead the protest like the Bolsheviks, he only denounces the essence of what is happening.

          You see, piled up - they themselves try to get used to the trough, hence the screeching. How can the communists lead the struggle of the bourgeoisie at the trough, if our task is to throw them all out of there? What can we offer them?
          1. Icarus
            Icarus 25 January 2021 11: 21
            +2
            What can we offer them?
            Justice. At least a free higher education (for the majority of those able to do so) and ensure the operation of social lifts that do not depend on origin and wealth, but only on personal abilities ("cadres decide everything").
      3. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 14: 58
        +1
        ... when they see a Russian person, they often raise a finger and say Putin, Russia, good

        Stop carrying it. Or raise your middle finger? What border have you seen this?
        1. Achilles
          Achilles 24 January 2021 15: 31
          -2
          Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Stop carrying it. Or raise your middle finger? What border have you seen this?

          Do you at least read the comments of foreigners under the vidos about Russia, about Putin, especially those who were in the late 90s and visited Russia in the late 20s. I have traveled to Europe, friends who travel to America in Europe confirm my words, foreigners really think that Putin is a tough ruler, and they would tell us that.
          1. Revival
            Revival 24 January 2021 16: 04
            +8
            It is good for them to count there, it is very convenient from afar, they do not only want to move to our "paradise" to move something to our wages, salaries, and pensions
          2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 16: 55
            0
            ... Do you even read the comments of foreigners under the vidos about Russia, about Putin,

            laughing
            It's amazing how easy it is to breed networked hamsters. No special effort.
            1. Achilles
              Achilles 24 January 2021 17: 42
              -3
              Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              It's amazing how easy it is to breed networked hamsters. No special effort.

              Exactly hamsters, you can't see beyond your nose
              1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 20: 29
                +1
                ... you can't see beyond your nose

                Is this a putinoid who has never left his regional center? Oh yes, to Turkey. In a T-shirt with Putin. Did the animators show their thumb in the hope of a tip? Yeah nuuu? laughing
                Once again, please don’t mark this blizzard about the fact that in Europe everyone envies us “Patamushta Putin”. At least not on this site, which is full of European citizens and people who have pretty much traveled around it. Do you at least realize that no one but you believes in this nonsense?
          3. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 24 January 2021 18: 50
            +8
            I've been driving around Europe


            But we never went beyond the regional center .... I'm a foreigner. If your bunker grandfather prescribes your salary for me and urges his guardsmen from Roszhandarmeria to beat me, then he will know the fate of Nikolai alone ... laughing
          4. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 24 January 2021 18: 55
            +4
            Quote: Achilles
            foreigners really think that Putin is a tough ruler, and they tell us this.

            And let them take them along with the entire Cabinet, Federation Council and friends. They will also need translators, except that Mutko doesn't know how to do something.
      4. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 24 January 2021 19: 31
        +2
        Quote: Achilles
        when they see a Russian person, they often raise a finger and say Putin, Russia, good,

        Is it written on your forehead that you are a Russian person?
        Quote: Achilles
        that Putin will not lend and surrender Russia to the West.

        Of course he won't betray or surrender. They feed him well even here.
        1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 20: 38
          +3
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          Is it written on your forehead that you are a Russian person?

          no. His family has a special wardrobe for voyages to damned Europe. laughing
    4. WIKI
      WIKI 24 January 2021 14: 58
      +4
      Quote: paul3390
      This is not our war, so there is nothing to waste in vain. But it is necessary - to prepare intensively for ours, which aims at the return of Soviet power.

      Commercials will take another 30 years. The oligarch will change its form, adapt to the current moment, the people will be given regular handouts, and you will all be preparing. Specifically, in whom, or how, at the moment, you see the future potential for the embodiment of your ideas.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 24 January 2021 16: 05
        +3
        Duc - finally read the classics, everything is written there for centuries ahead .. Well, as much as possible. A revolutionary situation should develop, but there is no trace of it yet, we are just approaching it. This is what we are preparing for .. In the meantime, we need to put people's brains in place, which is what all the Marxists in Russia did 50 years before the revolution ... Slowly and methodically.
        1. WIKI
          WIKI 25 January 2021 00: 23
          +1
          Quote: paul3390
          In the meantime, people need to put their brains in place,

          Putting brains in place is good. Let's say someone was given brains. The next election is coming up. Who should I go to with this baggage? Or do you seriously rely on armed methods and, as a consequence, civil war?
    5. vvnab
      vvnab 26 January 2021 12: 42
      0
      But it is necessary - to prepare intensively for ours, which aims at the return of Soviet power.

      How to prepare? Read books? Personally, the position of Kagarlitsky is closer to me. You can study the manual on swimming techniques as much as you like, but without entering the water you will not learn how to swim! Knowledge is good, but without the experience of real political struggle nothing will come of it.
  • nsm1
    nsm1 24 January 2021 14: 01
    +16
    That's right, Navalny nafig did not surrender to anyone ...
    But the people are not happy and angry.
    Due to falling living standards, fattening capitalists, colonial policies ...
    This is approximately the same as in France before the great revolution - any, the most absurd movement found support not because it is what it is, but because it is against absolutism.
    1. Avior
      Avior 24 January 2021 14: 10
      +16
      Navalny is not a politician.
      He is an investigative journalist. In the West, such a wagon and a cart, this is for Russia, and it looks like a special phenomenon. And he is not a politician.
      And their niche is simple - if some politician comes out and says that there is no money, then his voters should clearly understand that the people and the politician do not have money, or only the people, but the politician has complete order with this.
      And this really hurts politicians - it's hard to tell that there is no money, so we will raise the retirement age, broadcasting this from the balcony of the palace, from which King Louis would have strangled himself with envy.
      And the personalities of these journalists are of little interest to anyone, the main thing is what they dug up.
      And the result is important, in rich Germany the Chancellor lives like a rogue, otherwise it will be difficult to even stutter that there is no money in the treasury, but you somehow hold on there!
      hi
      1. nsm1
        nsm1 24 January 2021 14: 15
        0
        Not everyone knows about his investigations at all ...
        This is not an investigator - a symbol, a sufferer, like Yeltsin in his time.
        1. Avior
          Avior 24 January 2021 14: 26
          +6
          IMHO, it should be the other way around
          But this already depends on everyone personally, the Internet has made a breakthrough recently, and the TV, on the contrary, has lost ground.
      2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 January 2021 14: 45
        +6
        ... And their niche is simple - if some politician comes out and says that there is no money, then his voters should clearly understand that the people and the politician do not have money, or only the people, but the politician has complete order with this.

        I am frankly surprised how some people here hysterically, albeit indirectly in places, drown for the ruined power. Stupid, not zealous, unpromising, boorish-arrogant, greedy. Who wipes his feet on these endured and at the same time flaunts his wealth, without hesitation. What kind of plebeian servility?
        1. nsm1
          nsm1 24 January 2021 15: 03
          +3
          Have you heard about the "Olgins"?
          Here they are definitely there.
          They have such a job.
        2. paul3390
          paul3390 24 January 2021 16: 07
          +4
          And where are you going to get another one, and even like a decent and bourgeois one, in a raw materials colony ?? what
          1. The eye of the crying
            The eye of the crying 25 January 2021 15: 09
            -1
            Educate.
    2. Cron
      Cron 24 January 2021 14: 25
      -13%
      Quote: nsm1
      This is approximately the same as in France before the great revolution - any, the most absurd movement found support not because it is what it is, but because it is against absolutism.

      Any, the most absurd movement finds support not because it is so, but because in any country there is always a certain number of dissatisfied people. That's just because. And if you count them on their heads, there will be a lot, those are more eternally opposition-minded youth.
      But the people are not happy and angry.

      And when was it wrong with us? He is always dissatisfied and angry.
      In Ukraine, in 2013-2014, they jumped not because they were brought in, but because they were inspired that they were brought, well, of a certain part. Otherwise, it is simply impossible to explain why there was no new Maidan. They have only gas prices have risen ten times since that time. And nothing, the main thing is to believe that you are on your way to full Europe
      1. nsm1
        nsm1 24 January 2021 14: 38
        0
        Quote: Cron
        They have only gas prices have risen ten times since that time.
        Like they have no worries other than gas. laughing wassat
        Rather, the majority didn’t even know.
        1. Cron
          Cron 24 January 2021 14: 48
          -6
          Quote: nsm1
          Like they have no worries other than gas.
          Rather, the majority didn’t even know.

          Yeah, they didn’t hear)) So they didn’t hear that after another increase on January 1, not having time to receive bills, they began to resent on the street. And the Cabinet of Ministers, forgetting that it was hanging noodles about the free market, provided that its produced gas fully covers the needs of the population, decided to stop the price by UAH 6,99 for several months, like in some market. And I'm not talking about a receipt for gas transportation
          1. nsm1
            nsm1 24 January 2021 14: 52
            -3
            And why, strongly indignant ?! laughing
            Some nonsense.
            I don’t know and am not interested in the prices for gas, electricity, water, etc.
            And I don't know anyone who would bother with it.
            Or have they gone stupefied with greed?
            1. Cron
              Cron 24 January 2021 14: 59
              -6
              And why, strongly indignant ?! laughing

              Not really, but the government thought - well it, especially quarantine everywhere, we will tolerate a couple of months, and then we will increase
              Quote: nsm1
              Have they gone stupefied with greed?

              Now, the IMF also thinks so and is concerned about the possible return of state regulation of gas prices, since this contradicts the terms of cooperation with the fund. And Ukraine says that it's only for a couple of months only
              1. nsm1
                nsm1 24 January 2021 15: 01
                0
                I'm not talking about the IMF, but about the fact that normal people usually do not know small expenses.
                1. Cron
                  Cron 24 January 2021 15: 13
                  -8
                  I'm not talking about the IMF, but about the fact that normal people usually do not know small expenses.

                  So the one who knows is crazy? Brilliant. As a rule, when street idiots do not delve into anything, but only jump, then these small expenses turn into large ones, and even so small salaries become even less.
                  And to call pensioners who give their entire pension to pay bills abnormal, of course
                  1. nsm1
                    nsm1 24 January 2021 15: 16
                    -1
                    Vooot, exactly!
                    Some pensioners have noticed, but the rest do not care.
                    Is it clear now.
                    1. Cron
                      Cron 24 January 2021 15: 28
                      -6
                      Quote: nsm1
                      Vooot, exactly!
                      Some pensioners have noticed, but the rest do not care.
                      Is it clear now.

                      Do not care of course, what kind of nonsense? Just after the coup in 2014, many have already taken their places in power, according to the purchased tickets, now there is no one to organize the next sabbath.
                      All tariffs have increased several times there, but there is no prosperity. It is impossible not to notice this. If gas is not particularly worrisome in the summer, then there is a lot of heating over there. Tariffs are just a part of their problems, there are many more. And certainly more than it was in 2013.
                      Therefore, to say that the association was nosebleed is important, and the deterioration of one's well-being is not, is stupidity. This is possible only if you know how to brainwash certain segments of society.
                      1. nsm1
                        nsm1 24 January 2021 15: 32
                        -1
                        Either you are not catching up, or I cannot say something ...
                        Yes, do not care about this gas, it is an insignificant factor.
                        There are many more essential ones.
                        And no one bothers about gas, except for a part of pensioners.
                      2. Cron
                        Cron 24 January 2021 15: 48
                        -5
                        Quote: nsm1
                        Either you are not catching up, or I cannot say something ...
                        Yes, do not care about this gas, it is an insignificant factor.
                        There are many more essential ones.
                        And no one bothers about gas, except for a part of pensioners.

                        No, you are not catching up, how can a rise in tariffs several times, with almost no growing incomes, be an insignificant factor? How can a 10x growth go unnoticed? How if you give 40% of your salary to rent, you might not notice? Here and 10% are noticed. You don't judge everyone by yourself.
                        There are many more essential ones.

                        So I do not argue, I just cited one of the essential factors.
                        And what is more? Is the collapse of medicine under Suprun also not significant?
                        Most likely, Yanyka's golden toilet bowl was significant, which turned out to be another fake, well, visa-free, otherwise the visa was too expensive
                      3. nsm1
                        nsm1 24 January 2021 15: 51
                        -3
                        Listen - yes, there is a minor part of which is 40%.
                        Well, okay.
                        The rest do not care, as elsewhere.
                        I finish on this, I do not want to be distracted by nonsense.
                      4. Cron
                        Cron 24 January 2021 16: 00
                        -6
                        Quote: nsm1
                        Listen - yes, there is a small part of which is 40%.
                        Well, okay.
                        The rest do not care, as elsewhere.
                        I finish on this, I do not want to be distracted by nonsense.

                        Well, do not be distracted, someone is forcing you or what?
                        And I'm not taking these numbers out of my head. These are their own survey figures:
                        https://www.5.ua/ru/ekonomyka/kvartplata-bet-po-karmanu-skolko-deneh-sedaet-kommunalka-v-ukrayne-y-skolko-v-stranakh-es-229906.html

                        How if their tariffs will soon come very close to the European ones, 40% can only have a small part? Do you think salaries there are growing at the same rapid pace? Surprisingly simple
                        Well, if you sit on the neck of your parents, then probably yes, not a significant event
              2. Avior
                Avior 24 January 2021 15: 47
                +1
                He's just fooling you.
                Pensioners practically do not pay utility bills, there is a system of subsidies from the state.
                In reality, the rise in gas prices affected only residents of large-area gasified private houses.
                In general, according to the forecast, in Kiev today is plus 8, so that you understand the real gas problem.
                1. nsm1
                  nsm1 24 January 2021 15: 49
                  +1
                  Yes, I see that some kind of nonsense.
                2. Cron
                  Cron 24 January 2021 16: 22
                  -5
                  Quote: nsm1
                  Yes, I see that some kind of nonsense.

                  Poured into my ears and full of joy pants. And it turns out that pensioners practically do not pay for a communal apartment, when I heard about some subsidies there, it means that they practically do not pay. And why burden yourself with references to this nonsense, right ...
                  And the gas problem turns out to be solved in the warm winter, well, also, probably, by jumping to warm up even more
              3. Cron
                Cron 24 January 2021 16: 17
                -5
                He's just fooling you.

                Dear, let's not be unfounded. Where exactly am I fooling around?
                Pensioners practically do not pay utility bills, there is a system of subsidies from the state.

                Can you link to this nonsense? I'll show it to certain people, otherwise everyone suffers
                In reality, the rise in gas prices affected only residents of large-area gasified private houses.

                What are you? And others, apparently, it somehow bypassed in an amazing way. And no gas is needed in the apartments. There is no central heating and hot water. Everything seems to be subsidized.
                In general, according to the forecast, in Kiev today is plus 8, so that you understand the real gas problem.

                And the problem of water, electricity, etc., which also increased in price several times, how did you decide? By reducing consumption?
                That's right, no problem. People in vain raised the noise. Beat even more, somehow they will manage. Light a candle for the warm winter
  • Genry
    Genry 24 January 2021 14: 01
    -14%
    According to Semin, he deliberately releases his video "late" so that "it would not occur to someone to accuse him of working for the Kremlin and trying to sabotage the protest."

    The pseudo-communists and Semin are already openly admitting their unanimity with VaNalny (Russia's enemies).
  • Cron
    Cron 24 January 2021 14: 07
    -7
    On the one hand, they understood that the protest was not theirs at all, on the other hand, they realized that “one could use it”:

    And he will profit from what other leftists managed to profit from in the 90s. Good plan
  • Cron
    Cron 24 January 2021 14: 14
    -7
    At the same time, the journalist notes that he still has many questions. One of them: “Why is behind bars - Navalny

    Well, because Alexey has to be there by law? Is not it? Semin loves to include the fool.
    , and the oligarchs continue to cut on yachts? "

    Well, probably because there is such a status quo? Again, Semin likes to turn on ...
    If there were oligarchs, the situation would be completely different. There are very rich people who made their capital through backbreaking work.
    Semin, as he scratched his tongue, continues
  • apro
    apro 24 January 2021 14: 15
    -4
    Constantine is somewhat wrong. These are the same capitalists. And not among themselves. But created the appearance of a seething of a certain substance. In order to mislead the population. That someone threatens them. That they can ...
  • Orrin
    Orrin 24 January 2021 14: 38
    +7
    Semin: This is a protest of some capitalists against others

    And Semin is right. This was not a protest from the left.
    1. Altona
      Altona 24 January 2021 15: 27
      0
      Quote: Orrin
      And Semin is right. This was not a protest from the left.

      ---------------------------
      Kostya is Zyuganov 2.0. Who is this communist who is against the revolution? The 1905 revolution also failed, nevertheless there were class battles in Krasnaya Presnya.
      1. 220976
        220976 24 January 2021 15: 43
        +2
        Quote: Altona
        Kostya is Zyuganov 2.0

        And Tyulkin with the RCWP and ROT FRONT?
        Are you a communist yourself? Me not.
        Quote: Altona
        Who is this communist who is against the revolution?

        The people are against. The people do not support the opposition. If the people were for the opposition, then this power would no longer exist.
        To play for Navalny, well, in FIG.
        1. Altona
          Altona 24 January 2021 15: 47
          +2
          Quote: 220976
          The people are against. The people do not support the opposition. If the people were for the opposition, then this power would no longer exist.
          To play for Navalny, well, in FIG.

          -----------------------------
          Why against? The people did not marry Navalny yesterday. The people married Platoshkin too. The people came out against the lawlessness. The Far East generally protested fiercely. In Izhevsk in front of the column there was a banner "Power to workers!" We must sometimes look at the texture, and not retell someone's version in the style of "this is a battle of frogadders", "this is not our protest", "these are the intrigues of the Anglo-Saxons", "let real Marxists grow up first and we will give tady". You can find many excuses.

          And Tyulkin with the RCWP and ROT FRONT?
          Are you a communist yourself? Me not.

          About me, I'm not a communist. Just a reader of Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin. As for Tyulkin and others, these are the usual epigones and clerks.
          1. 220976
            220976 24 January 2021 15: 50
            +8
            Quote: Altona
            The people came out yesterday

            How much did it come out? The people stayed at home.

            About ROT FRONT and RKWP, what can you say, for example, about this article:
            https://rkrp-rpk.ru/2021/01/18/%d1%81%d1%82%d1%80%d0%b0%d1%81%d1%82%d0%b8-%d0%b2%d0%be%d0%ba%d1%80%d1%83%d0%b3-%d0%bd%d0%b0%d0%b2%d0%b0%d0%bb%d1%8c%d0%bd%d0%be%d0%b3%d0%be/
            1. Altona
              Altona 24 January 2021 15: 52
              0
              Quote: 220976
              How much did it come out? The people stayed at home.

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              3-5% of the population is enough for a revolution. You need to know the basics. As for the articles, I will not comment.
              PS By the way, the Communists of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation are the main beneficiaries of the Navalnovsky "smart vote".
              1. 220976
                220976 24 January 2021 16: 00
                +4
                Quote: Altona
                By the way, the Communists of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation are the main beneficiaries of Navalnov's "smart vote"

                KPRF communists? There is only a name from the communists.
                Quote: Altona
                As for the articles, I will not comment.

                The article "Passions around Navalny" posted on the RKWP website, following the link I gave in the previous comment, says:
                ... Navalny does not raise the issue of property, the revision of the results of privatization, or nationalization. The most important question. That is, the elite understands that if something happens, everything they earn by back-breaking honest work will not be touched. As in Ukraine, nothing will change from such a change of power.
                Yes, Navalny may be dangerous to someone from Putin's entourage. Perhaps, in the most extreme case, he is dangerous even to Putin himself. But for the "elite" as such, for Sistema, Alexey Anatolyevich Navalny is harmless and even useful. After all, objectively, in the long term, it works for its stability and survival.

                Therefore, Navalny's policy is cherished, at least "in reserve." It is a pity that neither the naive “guardians” nor the equally simple-minded ordinary navalists understand this.

                That's all. Learn the basics of left movement hi
          2. nsm1
            nsm1 24 January 2021 16: 00
            +3
            Siberia also got this chaos.
          3. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 24 January 2021 17: 05
            0
            Quote: Altona
            The people married Platoshkin too.

            I agree with you, as Semin would explain to Platoshkin, and to others - you, like Nikolai Nikolayevich, will still sit there until the war begins ("capitalism is pregnant with war" (Semin)) and the masses are not proletarianized. In this regard, Shevchenko's position is no closer.
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 24 January 2021 14: 44
    -5
    And what is the noise about? What's wrong? Forty thousand came to the rally, as they say? I believe:

    On the platform, waiting for the train, more people gather)))
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 24 January 2021 14: 55
      -7
      And I understand so much in one city and not in a country of enormous size)
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 24 January 2021 14: 58
        -6
        In the country, they already sing about 200 thousand. Well, they had 40 million watched the video and 4,5 thousand without bots ...
        1. Avior
          Avior 24 January 2021 15: 04
          +3

          78 934 185 views

          smile hi
    2. Double major
      Double major 24 January 2021 15: 02
      -5
      The picture shows a battalion and a half strength. 600 people.40 thousand - 4 divisions, they were not lying around ...
    3. Deck
      Deck 24 January 2021 15: 05
      +4
      To believe or not to believe is your right. Probably in your village, trains rarely run.

      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 24 January 2021 15: 22
        -6
        What to do, they children prefer to shake their heads in the streets. and not rivet the cars in Mytishchi. Or block the roads, and then wonder why they were screwed
        1. Altona
          Altona 24 January 2021 16: 00
          +6
          Quote: Cowbra
          What to do, they children prefer to shake their heads in the streets. and not rivet the cars in Mytishchi.

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          Children up to what age? "United Russia" also brings children to gatherings, and nothing. By the way, at the age of 16 I entered the institute, and at the age of 21 I riveted the cars for the metro at MMZ, in practice.
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra 24 January 2021 16: 06
            -6
            Quote: Altona
            Children up to what age?
            To the point that it is too early to plant them:
            Children detained at an illegal rally in Moscow were handed over to their parents
            PM1:57
            1. Altona
              Altona 24 January 2021 16: 11
              +2
              Quote: Cowbra
              To the point that it is too early to plant them:

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              This is a verbal balancing act. There were people of all ages, and pensioners too. Navalny and his headquarters have a serious organizational and media resource that the communists do not have. Instead of organizing their ranks or taking advantage of this, "battles of frogadders" and "protests of children" are invented. That's all.
              1. Cowbra
                Cowbra 24 January 2021 16: 20
                -5
                This is a fact, and it is reflected in the official reports of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
                1. Altona
                  Altona 24 January 2021 16: 26
                  +2
                  Quote: Cowbra
                  This is a fact, and it is reflected in the official reports of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

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                  Officially, by the way, last year 382 thousand people died in our country. Hitler with the Anglo-Saxons nervously smokes on the sidelines.
  • Double major
    Double major 24 January 2021 15: 00
    -5
    If you still don't understand what is going on, just read Colonel Warden's "Five Rings" NATO military concept. Everything fits into the training manual. The issue is not capitalism, the issue is the collapse of the target country from within, with the emergence of "humanitarians" to "save the population" after the complete collapse of the army and economy. IMHO.
    1. Altona
      Altona 24 January 2021 15: 29
      +5
      Quote: Twice Major
      Who has not yet understood what is happening

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      We realized that the government is building luxurious palaces and destroying schools and hospitals.
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 24 January 2021 15: 52
        -7
        Builds, oh builds! Sanatoriums. This is a mess, it must be destroyed! And what did your bulk build up? Well, at least a birdhouse? When you build it, we'll talk. what's better. Until then, go to school! Until it gets destroyed - take your chance
        1. Altona
          Altona 24 January 2021 15: 58
          +2
          Quote: Cowbra
          And what did your bulk build up?

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          Why are they "mine"? I just explain the situation. And you throw tantrums. Can you list what I built and how many tons of steel went through me? You can multiply 25 tons of steel monthly for 25 years. There are about so many metal products.
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra 24 January 2021 16: 08
            -6
            You do not explain any situation, but drive the refuted fakes 10 years ago. And the owner of the SANATORIUM has been known for a long time. Back in 2011, it was bought by the owner of the Novorossiysk port. So with hysterics - it's not for me. and to the mirror
        2. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 24 January 2021 17: 16
          +3
          Quote: Cowbra
          Until then, go to school! Before it gets destroyed - take your chance

          yours have already been destroyed
      2. Double major
        Double major 24 January 2021 21: 23
        -3
        Well, yes ... Only the pictures in their videos of palaces somehow suspiciously resemble the pictures of the interiors of the monastery complex in Prague, the library in particular ... Yeah ... They are holding them for idiots, too lazy even for fakes something not so well known find ... But someone bought it, no matter how banal ...
    2. Revival
      Revival 24 January 2021 16: 14
      +6
      So it is according to "the NATO concept of Colonel Warden's" Five Rings "" at the top of the Maybach and palaces, yachts, and the people a beggarly age and retirement age? Are they signing the laws for us?
      Or do you have to be happy with it? Or only if a little bit dissatisfied?
      That is, the people should think that the State Department will take advantage of their discontent and keep silent, but the top will not?
  • Altona
    Altona 24 January 2021 15: 24
    +3
    Quote: Finches
    The war against us on the part of the Anglo-Saxon world never ended!

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    Are you talking about a golden brush or an aquadiskotheque?
    1. Cowbra
      Cowbra 24 January 2021 15: 54
      -8
      No, about a golden loaf and hundreds of millions stolen by Navalny, for which he will sit down
      1. Altona
        Altona 24 January 2021 15: 55
        +6
        Quote: Cowbra
        No, about a golden loaf and hundreds of millions stolen by Navalny, for which he will sit down

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        Do you have case materials? Or are you scratching with your tongue?
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  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 24 January 2021 15: 46
    +4
    The society made a big mistake at the very beginning. Having removed the ideology, choosing only anti-Sovietism, it brought up generations of children who do not care who leads them. "Catching the hype." As a well-known political scientist said, "To rule like Stalin, and live like Abramovich." Yesterday I saw an endless procession of children from the state. flag And at the same time chanting some fan calls. All this will be a big problem for society.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 24 January 2021 16: 08
    +2
    This is a protest of some capitalists against others
    More precisely, the protest of hungry capitalists against snickering. "Both are worse" request
  • WayKheThuo
    WayKheThuo 24 January 2021 22: 42
    +2
    Semin is absolutely right.
    And not only from the point of view of the communists, but also from the point of view of an ordinary person who simply wants to live in his country so that he would not want to leave here and now.
    All this walking on the streets is a waste of energy and useless bumping.
    Without a developed ideology, without a prepared plan of action, without appropriate propaganda work among the masses, without people (this is the main thing!) Ready to go out and, if you have to fight in the streets, for a real future, without determination to go to the end - all these bulk campaigns of pure PR , working off the invested money and the next hairpin "regime".
    The only problem is that the currently established political system treats these hairpins like a yogi to the nails on which he rests - she absolutely does not care, it’s even useful - some kind of tone.
    I think so.
  • Alexander F.
    Alexander F. 25 January 2021 00: 09
    0
    The tolerant "eccentric" is the devil's toy.
    "Nothing adorns the children of" eugenics "like the desire to spoil Russia"
    The greatest value of the modern teaching of liberalism is not the recognition of morality and morality as the fundamental value of humanity.
    "Ignoring moral values ​​and morality as a fundamental value of mankind leads to a regression of the individual, and through him the degradation of social community occurs"
    And the "partners" understood that this relationship is the fulcrum on which the world order of human civilization is built. So they decided to knock out this fulcrum, from under the feet of the Man. This is how uncomplicated, based on the anti-idea of ​​morality and morality, the concept of small steps was developed.
    "The collapse of Russia, through the degradation of its traditional fundamental moral foundations"

    And this idea, and with great enthusiasm, was picked up by the moral cripples. Although they are narrow-minded, they quickly realized that since there is a customer for their pathology, then, accordingly, they can make good money on this. All that is needed is to propagandize their pathology in every possible way, and to present the denial of human values ​​to those around them, as new trends in the modern world order. Moreover, in addition to all this, with the same uncomplicated scheme, one can decompose fragile and wounded souls and replenish the ranks of radical movements with them, and thus earn a pie wrapped in “green papers”.

    And there is not far off; goodbye "asset" Russia - long live the State Department.


    "Eugenics - the doctrine of selection in relation to man."
    The super task, which - Through the collapse of the national consciousness, create a new religion, and with its help to legitimize the caste of rulers with the world and endow them with the status of divinity!
    “Maybe this explains the purpose for which mystical signs were depicted on the dollar” - the very concept of statehood will be erased, and the king of vices will rule the world.
    And this concept was picked up by all modern rainbow liberals and similar characters. Yes, I think that they, and besides, are very well aware of what performance they are participating in. But this does not stop them, and they act out their roles with maniacal persistence, hoping to earn the status of governors of the "golden" billion.
    After all, everything is so simple and worked out for centuries.
    At first, under the banner of Christ, in the crusades, "carrying the true faith to the world", countries and peoples were plundered. Then, under the banner of democracy, "carrying freedom", resources were seized and countries were destroyed. And the moment came when material values ​​no longer have a decisive value, and they set their sights on the main resource of the earth, human souls.
    And it started.
    6andera the killer is the "savior".
    Bulk swindler - "savior"
    Furgal billionaire suspect in contract killings - "savior"
    Biden with his pedophile son - "savior"
    And the victims at their hands, then who?
    So maybe this is an attempt to translate ideas into life, a character cursed by all humanity?
    "I release you from the chimera called morality and ethics"

    "The devil's greatest trick is to convince you that he doesn't exist."
    Once upon a time, a similar "scheme" was broken by Jesus Christ, "laying down" his life for this. And the very miracle of his resurrection served for a long time as a guardian of Human civilization.
    But the time has come for the next revenge, for the still anonymous "reptile". And on the way to the earthly reign of this "bastard", Russia has already remained the only obstacle. Which, as it always was, acted as a powerful and eternal guardian angel of human civilization.
  • Samin
    Samin 25 January 2021 09: 40
    0
    Where did you see the people there? 500 thugs on average for million-plus cities, and then, basically, children are unreasonable ..
    Glue labels quickly, Mr. Zyablitsev! Even if there were 500 of them, these are Russian citizens who have the right to their opinion. But believe me, at least 10 people came out in St. Petersburg alone! I would never go after Navalny! But also to scoff at your own people, to promise and not to fulfill your election projects - INSURANCE! Impudence of the highest standard! So it broke through the people. And God forbid we see the Russian revolt again.
  • Icarus
    Icarus 25 January 2021 11: 33
    +1
    Quote: WIKI
    Quote: paul3390
    In the meantime, people need to put their brains in place,

    Putting brains in place is good. Let's say someone was given brains. The next election is coming up. Who should I go to with this baggage? Or do you seriously rely on armed methods and, as a consequence, civil war?

    Are you serious about elections? Forget about fair elections completely. We have already made the necessary amendments to the electoral laws. Now the elections will go on for several days (even the communists will not provide the required number of observers), using electronic ballot boxes, without the possibility of their “manual” verification, etc. It became impossible to change the persons who came (seized) to power through elections.
  • tank64rus
    tank64rus 25 January 2021 12: 52
    +1
    Unfortunately, there are no leftists in Russia. The liberals tried in the 90s. Now ask any student about Lenin's eyes under his forehead. Well, about what happened yesterday, the comprador bourgeoisie, with the help and participation of Western inagents, led the youth out under left-wing slogans against the national bourgeoisie. If now the authorities release all this on the brakes, it will have very serious problems. "The state is worth something only if it knows how to defend itself" - this was Lenin wrote many years ago. True, the conversation was about revolution.
  • The eye of the crying
    The eye of the crying 25 January 2021 14: 45
    -3
    Reflections of an impotent man about pornography.
  • Radikal
    Radikal 26 January 2021 12: 43
    +1
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    Quote: paul3390
    you already need to have your own

    "A worker drags a machine gun
    - now he will join the battle ... "
    wassat
  • Radikal
    Radikal 26 January 2021 12: 57
    +1
    Quote: Balu
    Quote: Finches
    I don't see politics and economics here, I see idio.tism paid for by the State Department and no more! Unfortunately, I don't see normal leftists in Russia either!

    I watched the news with pictures of peaceful, raging youth in Moscow on January 23. And I had a question: no one thought to test the detainees for drugs, for example, amphetamine and other chemistry? For the narwhal family, this is a family business. They don't give a damn that children could be hurt, old people, just passers-by. And what do we know about the father-in-law? A former diplomat, he worked in a mission in New York, and for what merits did he receive American citizenship? I'm not talking about real estate behind the fence of the most nasty. Daughter at Stanford ...

    Then, in fairness, list the officials and deputies of different levels, whose daughters and sons also study in the damned West and criticized by you .... lol
  • Radikal
    Radikal 26 January 2021 13: 01
    +1
    Quote: paul3390
    I think so too. What difference does it make to us who will represent the oligarchy on the throne - Putin or Navalny? This is not our war, so there is nothing to waste in vain. But it is necessary - to prepare intensively for ours, which aims at the return of Soviet power. And yet they are dividing the palaces among themselves - one hell, sooner or later there will be a Palace of Pioneers ..

    I agree, but 11 people who gave you cons do not want this, they apparently have other plans ... bully hi