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Lithuania sent a group of military instructors to Ukraine

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Lithuania sent a group of military instructors to Ukraine

Another group of Lithuanian military instructors has been sent to Ukraine. This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of National Defense of the republic.


According to the report, this is the fifth group of instructors sent by Vilnius to train Ukrainian soldiers. Lithuanian instructors are helping to implement NATO standards in the Ukrainian armed forces.

Today (January 23 - approx.) A group of instructors formed from the National Defense Volunteer Forces (NDVF), the headquarters for the management of military doctrines, the Lithuanian Air Force base and the Juozas Vitkus engineering battalion flew to Ukraine

- stated on the website of the Ministry of Defense of Lithuania.

Vilnius stressed that Lithuania is providing assistance to Ukraine both by training military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Ukrainian territory, and is ready to receive Ukrainian military personnel in its combat training centers.

Note that Lithuania was the first of the Baltic republics to start providing military assistance to Ukraine after the "democratic reforms" there in 2014. Ukrainian Armed Forces received several parties from Vilnius weapons Soviet-made and ammunition for it, since the Lithuanian army long ago switched to NATO standards and removed from service Soviet-style weapons.

Lithuanian instructors, together with the British, American, Canadian, Danish and Polish military, conduct training for the Armed Forces of Ukraine in seven special training centers, the main of which is the Yavoriv training ground in the Lviv region.
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  1. Mouse
    Mouse 23 January 2021 18: 32
    +8
    Lithuanian trainers help implement NATO standards

    They will implement it, so they will implement it ... but I don't want to ...
    1. Russ
      Russ 23 January 2021 18: 36
      +5
      They will implement it, so they will implement it ... but I don't want to ...

      Why not satisfy the suffering ... winked
      1. hirurg
        hirurg 23 January 2021 19: 39
        +8
        I hope these instructors stay there forever.
        1. XXXIII
          XXXIII 23 January 2021 20: 21
          0
          Quote: hirurg
          I hope these instructors stay there forever.

          They are adopting the experience of the Maidan. laughing They will come back to implement the developments.
          1. hirurg
            hirurg 23 January 2021 20: 33
            0
            Of course not. They went there to make money easy. If not easily, they will be removed from Donbas. What I wish.
            And as for the introduction ... Soon there will be no one to implement.
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 23 January 2021 22: 36
          +4
          Quote: hirurg
          I hope these instructors stay there forever.

          It will be so along the way. The first four groups either disappeared or didn't make it and are still buying tickets at the box office. Judging by the information in the article, they go there as in the Bermuda Triangle
          This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of National Defense of the republic. According to the post, this is the fifth group of instructors sent by Vilnius
    2. Borik
      Borik 23 January 2021 18: 38
      +13
      "Forest Brothers" and "Bandera" are back in business, only the owner is different.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 23 January 2021 19: 06
        +8
        Quote: Borik
        "Forest Brothers" and "Bandera" are back in business

        She-bo, with the first, sliding glance, I read the title of this article as follows: "Lithuania sent a group of military criminals." laughing After rereading, I realized that I was not mistaken. yes
      2. Ruby
        Ruby 23 January 2021 19: 44
        +6
        The owner is just the same.
    3. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 23 January 2021 18: 41
      +4
      Quote: Mouse
      Lithuanian trainers help implement NATO standards

      They will implement it, so they will implement it ... but I don't want to ...

      It remains only to invite Australian instructors to the Outskirts. Well, and put Ethiopian missiles on the DB ... Found, damn it, where to look for "instructors". What, the Americans are no longer going, tired?
      As in the Union. Then in the cinema the Balts called the Germans (A. Masiulis, A. Licitis) and the Americans ("Mirage" by A. Brench) to play. At least a little, but not quite "our" ...
      1. Aleksandr21
        Aleksandr21 23 January 2021 18: 50
        +5
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        It remains only to invite Australian instructors to the Outskirts. Well, and put Ethiopian missiles on the DB ... Found, damn it, where to look for "instructors". What, the Americans are no longer going, tired?
        As in the Union. Then in the cinema the Balts called the Germans (A. Masiulis, A. Licitis) and the Americans ("Mirage" by A. Brench) to play. At least a little, but not quite "our" ...


        Why should the Americans go? If others will do all the work for them, and they will only throw up firewood and look from the outside. Now the Baltics, Poland, Ukraine are spending their resources on containing Russia ... the same scheme in Asia, where they want to contain China through (India, Japan, South Korea and other American allies), the same in the BV where other states restrain Iran, etc. convenient scheme.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 23 January 2021 18: 55
          +4
          Quote: Aleksandr21
          Why should the Americans go? If others will do all the work for them, and they will only throw up firewood and look from the outside.

          Yes, if only they did it ... The job ... And what can you learn from the Lithuanian "instructors"? Where did they acquire combat experience? It is necessary to learn from those who are smarter, and not from those who are more Russophobic.
          1. Aleksandr21
            Aleksandr21 23 January 2021 19: 14
            +3
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Yes, if only they did it ... The job ... And what can you learn from the Lithuanian "instructors"? Where did they acquire combat experience? It is necessary to learn from those who are smarter, and not from those who are more Russophobic.


            With real combat experience, the Lithuanians have problems .... but I think they can teach something. those. these instructors were clearly trained in NATO structures, and those who passed on their experience to them - the military of the USA, Great Britain, etc. are quite competent in these matters ... but if not, then we are better) in general for the good, we need to change the situation and tackle the Baltics seriously - in terms of cutting off oxygen to them, wherever possible ... so that the Baltics would not be able to trade with the EAEU, Russophobia must be expensive (c)
            1. mig29mks
              mig29mks 23 January 2021 21: 25
              +1
              Not just expensive but ruinously expensive !!!
          2. lucul
            lucul 23 January 2021 20: 00
            +4
            And what can you learn from the Lithuanian "instructors"? Where did they acquire combat experience? You need to learn from those who are smarter, not from those who are more Russophobic

            You ... this ... do not tell the likely enemy the right way.
            It's better for us as it is now)))
          3. Pete mitchell
            Pete mitchell 23 January 2021 22: 16
            +6
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            what can you learn from the Lithuanian "instructors"? Where did they acquire combat experience?

            You think politically lol nobody talked about the transfer combat experience, it would be something to share. Who will teach 404s to pronounce stanag correctly according to the latest manual / memo / instructions? This is a task on the shoulder to the kids running errands, at least some sense from them for uncle.
            By and large, there is nothing surprising in this, a normal practice. But if they appear on the line of contact, then it would be worth taking into circulation and presenting
          4. Avior
            Avior 24 January 2021 00: 13
            0
            They have been to Afghanistan and Iraq.
            1. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 24 January 2021 00: 22
              +4
              I apologize wildly: what were they doing there? I sincerely doubt that they supplied combat units there - after all, someone needs to wash the dishes.
              1. Avior
                Avior 24 January 2021 00: 26
                0
                I know that there were combat losses.
                1. Pete mitchell
                  Pete mitchell 24 January 2021 00: 33
                  +4
                  All the same, the war zone. Their neighbors also had combat losses - one eccentric on an ATV was killed by negligence. I cannot find a link, but a former officer of the Kabul company, a national cadre, called their stay there a shame: it was simply too expensive to hire a service staff.
                  1. Avior
                    Avior 24 January 2021 00: 53
                    +2
                    They do not write much, but I read that one of the victims was on the watchtower at the time of the attack on the camp of a large group.
                    Other information is also fragmentary
                    Somehow they write about the withdrawal of some of the Lithuanians
                    ... In mid-May, the last - 17th group of the Lithuanian military began serving in Chagcharan. It was formed on the basis of the artillery battalion of General Romualdas Gedraitis of the mechanized infantry brigade Geležinis Vilkas ..... Some of the weapons, communications and other equipment will be transferred to other Lithuanian units remaining in Afghanistan - a training mission, special operations troops stationed in the south.

                    I know that the Americans supplied them with unmanned aerial vehicles and other weapons and military equipment.
                    But I couldn't find the details.
                    1. Pete mitchell
                      Pete mitchell 24 January 2021 00: 55
                      +3
                      Train them, heal them ... with calibers
            2. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 24 January 2021 00: 23
              0
              Quote: Avior
              They were in Afghanistan

              We were there. And they fought, and were not afraid of anything. And THESE ... They sit in the perimeter like cockroaches behind a plinth ... I saw their own footage of them going to the market ... That's for sure - a major operation that requires special planning.

              If we see a sparrow, we prepare a cannon.
              If a fly, beat a fly! Take her to the front sight.
              And in Iraq - a big mind is necessary, of course, to iron the country with aviation. Combat experience is invaluable ...
              1. Pete mitchell
                Pete mitchell 24 January 2021 00: 49
                +4
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                in Iraq - a big mind is needed, of course, to iron the country with aviation. Combat experience is invaluable ...

                Schwarzkopf was later criticized for Iraq: he is a product of the Cold War and went to Iraq ignoring intelligence data, modern capabilities ... it was easier for him to move a group of a couple of thousand. At War College, where senior officers are trained for senior positions, and after Iraq, they taught the classic martial art from Clausewitz: Create a threefold advantage ... But they teach lessons and this must be remembered
      2. Mouse
        Mouse 23 January 2021 18: 52
        +2
        Those who want to learn dofig ...
        Just what? How to lie under the states? recourse
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 23 January 2021 18: 57
          +1
          Quote: Mouse
          Those who want to learn dofig ...
          Just what? How to lie under the states? recourse

          Well, you don't need to teach this Outskirts - they will teach whoever you want. They are in this business and the "instructors" themselves are unsurpassed.
          1. Mouse
            Mouse 23 January 2021 19: 07
            +3
            How convenient they will tell ... they will show you ... settled down early ... winked
            I don't want to ...
            1. ul_vitalii
              ul_vitalii 23 January 2021 19: 33
              +4
              Quote: Mouse
              How convenient they will tell ... they will show you ... settled down early ... winked
              I don't want to ...

              They have the opportunity to buy a goat, but they have no desire. yes
        2. ul_vitalii
          ul_vitalii 23 January 2021 19: 31
          +4
          Quote: Mouse
          Those who want to learn dofig ...
          Just what? How to lie under the states? recourse

          Say too hi Simple movements, as in a famous song, performed by a previously famous group. yes
          1. Russ
            Russ 23 January 2021 19: 37
            +1
            love
            They also want to get pleasure ... repeat
            1. ul_vitalii
              ul_vitalii 23 January 2021 19: 57
              +4
              Quote: Russia
              love
              They also want to get pleasure ... repeat

              Hello mysterious stranger love hi They would have had the pleasure of the tanks and tonsils. yes
      3. Cheldon
        Cheldon 23 January 2021 20: 32
        +1
        Lithuanian instructors are cheaper laughing
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 23 January 2021 21: 32
          0
          Quote: Cheldon
          Lithuanian instructors are cheaper laughing

          The Chinese garage assembly "Bosch" power tool is also cheaper than the factory licensed Chinese one. And, moreover, cheaper than the German assembly. Quality issue. In my opinion, in the matter of defense, in the matter of power tools, as Kisa Vorobyaninov said -
          I suppose bargaining is inappropriate here ...
          Just as a Chinese instrument of a garage assembly is not a tool, but a dummy of an instrument, so an army with such "instructors" will not be an army, but a decorative circus performance.
      4. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 23 January 2021 21: 55
        0
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        It remains only to invite Australian instructors to the Outskirts.

        And teach riding war kangaroos! fellow
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 23 January 2021 23: 20
          0
          Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          It remains only to invite Australian instructors to the Outskirts.

          And teach riding war kangaroos! fellow

          Riding or in bags? recourse
          1. DymOk_v_dYmke
            DymOk_v_dYmke 24 January 2021 12: 34
            +1
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Riding or in bags?

            It is also an option.
            The bags are always warm and there are boobs. laughing
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 January 2021 19: 28
      0
      Quote: Mouse
      They will implement it, so they will implement it ... but I don't want to ...

      It turns out they also cannot fight, since the Lithuanians teach them. Soon, probably, Romanians and Moldovans will teach them.
    5. venik
      venik 23 January 2021 20: 36
      +2
      Quote: Mouse
      They will implement it, so they will implement it ... but I don't want to ...

      =======
      The funny thing is that it came to the point that even the "tribals" - hohlov, teach "how to fight"! And this despite the fact that the "ukroatriots" themselves actually, consider themselves a terribly GREAT and terribly Militant nation .... AND HOW to understand all this ??? what
    6. Anatoly 288
      Anatoly 288 24 January 2021 01: 57
      0
      فأين ضاعوا؟ نحن ننتظرهم كثيرا !!!
      Well, where are they lost ... we are waiting for them !!!
      Welcome, meat !!!
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 24 January 2021 02: 51
        0
        Lithuania sent a group of military instructors to Ukraine
        it's like, "psychiatrists who need psychiatrists themselves"
  2. oldzek
    oldzek 23 January 2021 18: 33
    +2
    will teach the caches in the forest to do on the very likely surrender of the land ... maybe ... maybe.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 January 2021 19: 31
      +1
      Quote: oldzek
      will teach caches in the forest to do

      Bandera themselves will teach anyone you want to make caches, many still live in them.
  3. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 23 January 2021 18: 33
    0
    Hah, Russophobic Holidays: 3
  4. Catfish
    Catfish 23 January 2021 18: 35
    0
    And where did the Lithuanians grab their military knowledge, in what modern war? At checkpoints in Afghanistan? request
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 January 2021 19: 38
      +1
      Quote: Sea Cat
      At checkpoints in Afghanistan?

      Under the USSR, they were in Afghanistan, and on the Jongar Pass, and on the Mongol-Chinese border. But these are already old, and they will not teach those "who are getting richer with a thought." And the young ones passed the "crow" from an African-American private of the 5th grade, and now they themselves have become instructors. Something is unimportant in the outskirts with combat training.
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 23 January 2021 20: 13
        0
        But this is understandable.))
        Or, kavk said the famous janitor from the immortal classic - "To whom and the mare's bride." (C) laughing
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 23 January 2021 20: 36
          0
          Quote: Sea Cat
          "To whom the mare has a bride."

          You couldn't put it better, it is.
      2. Avior
        Avior 24 January 2021 00: 17
        -1
        Were in Afghanistan and Iraq with the Americans.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 24 January 2021 09: 50
          0
          Quote: Avior
          Were in Afghanistan and Iraq with the Americans.

          And this was not the most pleasant moment in Lithuania's actions.
  5. Boromir1941
    Boromir1941 23 January 2021 18: 37
    0
    yeah, they train in such a way as to quickly turn into meat
    1. Anatoly 288
      Anatoly 288 24 January 2021 02: 13
      -1
      ואם מחר אני זורק את הנעל שלי מעבר לגבול, האם תתעייף?
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 24 January 2021 09: 51
        -1
        Quote: Anatoly 288
        ואם מחר אני זורק את הנעל שלי מעבר לגבול, האם תתעייף?

        Well, thank you, made me happy.
  6. kulinar
    kulinar 23 January 2021 18: 39
    0
    And then they are surprised that their transit is lost ...
  7. NF68
    NF68 23 January 2021 18: 47
    +1
    Will they teach sprats to guard?
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 23 January 2021 18: 52
      +1
      Quote: NF68
      Will they teach sprats to guard?

      Catch. In the Dnieper.
      1. NF68
        NF68 23 January 2021 18: 52
        -1
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Quote: NF68
        Will they teach sprats to guard?

        Catch. In the Dnieper.


        Are there sprats there?
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 23 January 2021 19: 26
          0
          Quote: NF68
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Quote: NF68
          Will they teach sprats to guard?

          Catch. In the Dnieper.


          Are there sprats there?

          They will bring with them.
          1. NF68
            NF68 23 January 2021 19: 48
            0
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Quote: NF68
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Quote: NF68
            Will they teach sprats to guard?

            Catch. In the Dnieper.


            Are there sprats there?

            They will bring with them.


            They themselves have long ceased to catch them. Unless the neighbors will resist.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 23 January 2021 19: 47
          0
          Quote: NF68
          Are there sprats there?

          Have a neighbor in the well.
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 23 January 2021 18: 54
      +1
      Sprats are practically not produced there. They are there all the Baltic States together showing how you can lose everything. Masochism is simply overwhelming.
      1. NF68
        NF68 23 January 2021 18: 55
        0
        Quote: carstorm 11
        Sprats are practically not produced there. They are there all the Baltic States together showing how you can lose everything. Masochism is simply overwhelming.


        But from the encroachments of Russia, apparently, they are still guarding these sprats day and night.
      2. nsm1
        nsm1 23 January 2021 19: 00
        +2
        Quote: carstorm 11
        together they show how you can lose everything. Masochism is simply overwhelming.

        Damn, I don't even know what to say!
        Like no one reads the news here? !!
        At the end of 2020, per capita income will amount to 9,97 thousand dollars, putting Russia on the 68th line in the world ranking for this indicator. For comparison, at the end of 2018, the Russian Federation occupied the 63rd position in it with 11,33 thousand dollars per capita.
        In Lithuania, the average per capita household adjusted net disposable income is US $ 21 per year
        And the same Russians, despite all the oppression, in no way and in the least do not strive for a prosperous Russia!
        I like my homeland, but in real life there is what is in real life!
        Not in imagination and desires, in nature!
        In real life, Turkmenistan will soon overtake Russia in terms of living standards.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 23 January 2021 19: 03
          +1
          Why are they from such paradise in a friendly crowd all over Europe fled ah? Is it so wonderful in your words?)
          1. nsm1
            nsm1 23 January 2021 19: 10
            +1
            They scattered because they could.
            Europe is even richer.
            And not according to my words, the statistics are as follows.
            And the feeling of a thinner wallet - prices are rising, and salaries are almost frozen!
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 23 January 2021 19: 41
              -2
              So everyone can) to leave is not difficult at all. But when a fifth of the country frankly runs away, this is not an opportunity. This is an escape) people do not leave in such crowds from a good life! And according to information from the Baltic States, people ran because there is no work. How does their infa fit in with your messages?) You can easily find out what kind of positions they leave there. And these are not high-profile specialists at all. So tell me what's wrong with this paradise?)
              1. nsm1
                nsm1 23 January 2021 19: 47
                +2
                Yes, it is true that leaving is not a problem.
                But working in Europe legally is still a problem, no - it can be solved, for IT specialists, etc.
                But for a plumber - no, no way.
                And for the Lithuanian plumber, in principle, there is no problem, much like we have with the Kazakhs and Kyrgyz.
                So why not run?
                And, again, statistics are in no way does not change.
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 23 January 2021 19: 50
                  -4
                  Rave. Our company representatives work where the factories of our partners. We have never experienced anything complicated with registration. It is not necessary for an EU passport to buy in Moldova for 5 euro mowers at any time to be a panacea.
                  1. nsm1
                    nsm1 23 January 2021 19: 51
                    +2
                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    which in Moldova for 5 euros to buy
                    Ha-ha!
                    And also to refuse Russian citizenship, well, well ...
                    And 5 mowers of euros does this by any chance exceed the annual average Russian salary? laughing
                    1. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 23 January 2021 19: 53
                      0
                      Telephone. Thumbs up) fixed) the trouble of all fashionable gadgets for my parameters)
                    2. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 23 January 2021 19: 58
                      -5
                      Everyone chooses their own path. I just pointed out the ease of solving the question. I was born in the GDR. I have the opportunity to obtain citizenship instantly. What I was notified with such a beautiful message) but I'm not going)))
                      1. nsm1
                        nsm1 23 January 2021 20: 04
                        +1
                        A path costing more than the annual income equals the actual prohibition.
                        They don't go on watch here, but you mean abroad ...
                      2. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 23 January 2021 20: 15
                        -7
                        I beg of you. Don't look at weird bloggers. This is the parking lot that I see every morning. Confuses nothing?

                        and below is my parking lot. In an ordinary city on the Far East. Who do you think these people are?))) I have never seen so many 200 corn workers. And for some reason there are more and more of them. Are you worried about 5 euros here)
                      3. nsm1
                        nsm1 23 January 2021 20: 20
                        +1
                        Once again, which already - do not like the statistics - so show another one!
                        No need for pictures and bloggers, numbers are needed.
                      4. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 23 January 2021 23: 16
                        +1
                        and below is my parking lot.
                        In England (and everywhere else in Europe), run-of-the-mill cruisers and merciers are the prerogative and pride of blacks and Romanians. This is what parking at social apartment buildings looks like. And on the subject of the departure of the lung, if from the cities of Russia it was possible with a passport and 2000 re to fly to permanent residence in Hamburg or London (as in the Baltic States), then the cities would be quite empty.
                      5. Avior
                        Avior 24 January 2021 01: 13
                        +2
                        You know very well that this set of cars was formed due to two things - Japanese features in the field of car regulation and permission to import right-hand drive vehicles into the Far East and often does not speak of a very high standard of living of their owners.
                      6. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 24 January 2021 09: 59
                        +2
                        Quote: Avior
                        that this set of cars was formed due to two things - Japanese peculiarities in the field of car regulation and permission to import right-hand drive vehicles into the Far East and often does not speak of a very high standard of living of their owners.

                        But most of the cars are used, two new times and miscalculated. This is the indicator of the life of one side, and if 80% of new cars and 20 used cars are bought in the country, this is the indicator of the other side.
                      7. Avior
                        Avior 24 January 2021 12: 10
                        +2
                        In the photo shown, I think all are bought second-hand
                        Only a unique person will buy a new Kruzak in the Far East if their right-hand drive versions are brought in massively from Japan for inexpensively.
                        In Japan, yes, there are many new, old ones that are expensive to maintain.
              2. Bolt cutter
                Bolt cutter 23 January 2021 23: 19
                +1
                was born in the GDR. I have the opportunity to obtain citizenship instantly.
                Isn't blood right in Germany?
                Children born to foreign parents in Germany before 1 January 2000 did not acquire German citizenship and cannot retroactively apply for citizenship.
                https://uk.diplo.de/uk-en/02/citizenship/acquiring-citizenship Как-то так.
              3. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 24 January 2021 12: 33
                +1
                Quote: Bolt Cutter
                Isn't blood right in Germany?

                May he not receive it instantly. After the collapse, they gave a very short time. My cousin, born in 1947 in Berlin, received it immediately, and the Germans themselves offered her. But the other brothers did not have time, with the exception of those who lived at the time of the collapse in Berlin.
              4. Bolt cutter
                Bolt cutter 24 January 2021 12: 38
                +1
                Most likely it is "not needed" due to the factor of green grapes laughing My colleague tried to make my son a German citizen - despite the help of his father, a native of Frankfurt, it turned out to be a difficult matter. No letters of invitation from the embassy were sent to her sad
        2. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 23 January 2021 20: 04
          -3
          When global issues are being resolved, this is not the amount that would take a long time. According to you, there are such incomes that you can beat off in one fell swoop)))
          1. nsm1
            nsm1 23 January 2021 20: 06
            +1
            Not according to words, according to statistics!
            By the way, I received an invitation to Peru!
            Seriously!
            I sent back an obscene message.
          2. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 23 January 2021 20: 21
            -4
            Statistics are serious things. Who would argue. But somehow it does not fit with the fact that a fifth of the population just fled)
          3. nsm1
            nsm1 23 January 2021 20: 23
            +1
            Does this prove something?
            People are also fleeing from the Kurgan region, but for some reason not to the dill ...
            And why is this so ?! laughing laughing
          4. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 23 January 2021 21: 01
            -3
            Running straight?) As many as 360 people for the first six months 19. What is more important, most of them move INSIDE the country. Instead of running abroad. But the numbers are simply devastating) you think that they left small Latvia for 30000 people. And this is not an internal migration from the word at all. You somehow do not confuse internal migration with leaving the country in principle) these are kapets what different things.
          5. nsm1
            nsm1 23 January 2021 21: 04
            +1
            Yes, I confess, I got confused with the shift workers.
            But this is because our population is, in principle, low.
            Difficult to move.
          6. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 23 January 2021 21: 06
            -4
            The fact that Krasnodar has become a millionaire in some ridiculous period, you probably do not know) well, very low mobility of the population)
          7. nsm1
            nsm1 23 January 2021 21: 10
            +2
            I don't know about Krasnodar at all, everything beyond the Urals is of little interest.
            But I know that Tyumen is constantly bloated.
            Like Surgut ...
            But not so fast for me.

            But we went somewhere the wrong steppe, for me ...
            Migration indicates an income gradient, but says nothing about absolute value.
            Why don't Lithuanians go to Russia?
          8. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 23 January 2021 21: 12
            0
            Which Ural?) Do you think on the other side? From the east?) You then warn, otherwise the blow will be enough)
          9. nsm1
            nsm1 23 January 2021 21: 15
            0
            Well of course!
            I live in Siberia.
            Quote: carstorm 11
            You then warn, otherwise the blow will be enough
            I understood the Far East as the Far East.
            That is, from you Krasnodar beyond the Urals.
          10. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 23 January 2021 21: 24
            0
            Well, I'm in the Far East. It so happened that I live in two cities. Work and eldest daughter in Moscow. Life is a strange thing) here they are running from the Far East. But it is difficult to live here even physiologically. The otter was simply suffocating from the humidity. She's much better now. I had to change a lot in my life. These places are not for everyone, but I love them.
          11. nsm1
            nsm1 23 January 2021 21: 25
            0
            I worked for you, on gold ...
            Snow is just awful how much, it sweeps up to the second floor ...
            But teploooo, lafa ...
          12. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 23 January 2021 21: 37
            0
            When over thirty plus with a humidity of 100 is nothing good. And this is an ordinary summer. 300 sunny days a year)
          13. nsm1
            nsm1 23 January 2021 21: 42
            0
            It was about -30, not more, -35 not even once.
            Another so-called. "Buran" was several. time...
            At first I did not understand at all that it was he - the wind was weak and the snow was falling heavily and thickly ...
            I'm used to it blowing specifically, the sound of the wind is constant, the car is staggering even on racks ...
            And here something is not at all.
            But the passes have closed, so yes, to some extent "blizzard".

            Oh, "plus" looked ...
          14. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 23 January 2021 21: 47
            0
            Different natures. In my region, Khabarovsk, in two cities, the weather can differ significantly. It is snowing in Komsa and the frost is wet in Ha. December. Although this winter is annealing. There has been no frost for a long time. 10 years for sure. We have already forgotten what minus 20 is. I have others at the end of November. I've been in the rain for the last years.
  8. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 24 January 2021 13: 11
    +1
    Quote: nsm1
    I understood the Far East as the Far East.
    That is, from you Krasnodar beyond the Urals.

    For a Muscovite, Chita is beyond the Urals, and for Transbaikal residents, Moscow is beyond the Urals.
  9. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 24 January 2021 13: 09
    0
    Quote: nsm1
    Why don't Lithuanians go to Russia?

    Why do you think so. They go and work in Moscow, St. Petersburg.
  10. Avior
    Avior 24 January 2021 01: 15
    -1
    So it is easier for Armenians and some other nationalities with mobility :)))
  11. Bolt cutter
    Bolt cutter 23 January 2021 23: 36
    +1
    moves INSIDE the country. And does not run abroad
    If the borders with the EU were open and tickets were cheap, the Kurgan region would be empty. In the Baltics, many of those who left simply live in two countries, many earn an apartment in 5-6 years, many go to study for free. Because they can.
  12. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 24 January 2021 13: 04
    +2
    Quote: carstorm 11
    Instead of running abroad. But the numbers are simply devastating) you think that they left small Latvia for 30000 people.

    So they are citizens of the European Union, where they want to go there and go to the 27 EU countries. They work wherever they want, but the house as it was and remains in Latvia, why should they migrate,
  13. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 24 January 2021 13: 01
    +1
    Quote: nsm1
    People are also fleeing from the Kurgan region, but for some reason not to the dill ...
    And why is this so ?!

    There is a lot of Russophobia in Ukraine, in comparison with other former republics of the USSR, who will go there for permanent residence, although there is beautiful nature and rich land.
  14. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 23 January 2021 20: 23
    -1
    I just showed you that if you need 5000 euros they will find it. The price of a crap crown from the nineties.
  • Alexei-
    Alexei- 23 January 2021 20: 02
    -2
    Arabs and North Africa, too, runs to all sorts of Parisians "because they can", can you imagine?)))
  • Yok Migarek
    Yok Migarek 23 January 2021 19: 11
    +2
    You will be surprised, but in our stores the prices are in rubles, not in dollars or euros.
    1. nsm1
      nsm1 23 January 2021 19: 14
      0
      So what?
      Most consumer electronics, plumbing, and pharmaceuticals are simply converted from dollars.
      And purely our goods are also getting more expensive.
  • Alexei-
    Alexei- 23 January 2021 19: 53
    +2
    We live on our own and not on debt. We build and develop. And why should the Russians "leave" somewhere? Has Turkmenistan received many visitors who want to eat? (By the way, the Russian Federation is the second in the world in terms of the number of immigrants, after the states.)

    if you do not know what to say, you better keep quiet. Moreover, to drag this stupid, one-sided figure here (without price tags, prices, communal apartments).
    1. nsm1
      nsm1 23 January 2021 20: 00
      -4
      Oh well...
      I know, but you do not, discover the "level of net adjusted disposable income", everything is there already taken into account.
      As in the big mac index.

      However, there is no objection at all if you present your own, "correct" statistics.
      1. Alexei-
        Alexei- 23 January 2021 20: 15
        -2
        you already presented it yourself, this very "correct" statistics))))
        In the sense that they felled from the Baltics at the first opportunity.
        I, my relatives, my entourage are not going to "blame" anywhere from Russia (although they ride around the world as tourists). Here is my Motherland, my Home, and I'm not going to leave anywhere. And living Russians in the Baltics, too, have a home, a small homeland, can you imagine? In life, it happens. Not everything is measured by bigmag.
        1. nsm1
          nsm1 23 January 2021 20: 58
          +1
          No, please present in terms of income, in terms of net adjusted disposable income.
          The rest is not interesting and unnecessary.
          Quote: Alex-
          And living Russians in the Baltics too, there is a house,
          Yes, it's true.
          It is also true that the Russians fled from everywhere, from Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan ...
          From Dagestan and Tuva.
          Without looking at home, small homeland, etc. etc.
          It's just that in fact it is, in nature.
          And from the Baltic States for 30 years now, not a foot, despite the oppression, restrictions, etc.
          Say why?

          I watched the interview on TV, for a long time - a military pensioner has a pension of how many euros, honestly I don’t remember ...
          So he just said bluntly - "Why do I need Russia?"
          Like our pension is 5 times less.
          That's it.
          1. Alexei-
            Alexei- 23 January 2021 21: 40
            -1
            on income, Yandex to help you, look. How much I get, all mine. I have enough. And no need to translate the arrows. If you measure life in bucks, the flag is in your hands. I have other priorities. And this "rest" is just interesting and important for me. Yes, material values ​​are also not alien to me, but I do not put the dollar rate, someone's income at the forefront. I am interested in logistics, service, employment, confidence in the future, reliability of the fiscal authorities. Finally, the attitude towards me as a citizen of Russia.
            And yet, the Russians "did not run away from everywhere." Russians, like all people on this earth (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), live where they want to live. They leave where they want, where they like. Correctly you are a military pensioner says (And why do I need Russia?). They will tell you and in Russia, why do I need the Baltics? Yes, I'm telling you, I don't need any super-duper big European girl. To the best of my ability and opportunity, at home, in Russia, I create normal, decent living conditions. I'm not going to run through strange nooks in search of "net adjustable disposable income", what kind of nonsense? You like it, no problem. Your life, and it is one. Your choice. Bon voyage)))
            My grandfather and grandmother left me the Great Country, and I fucked it up. I owe my grandchildren, I know that .. I owe them not "Putin's palace", not "disposable income", no. I owe them an accessible education, freedom of choice, order, independent (truthful) sources of information, social elevators, self-realization (through work, creativity) ..... yes, a lot of things. I HERE, I have something to do. Me, my family, friends, colleagues, colleagues, compatriots, country. Good luck.
            1. nsm1
              nsm1 23 January 2021 21: 49
              0
              The position is quite normal.
              Everyone has the right to their own, without looking back, etc.
              But do not treat others with obvious and gross disrespect.
              They also have the right to travel wherever they want or stay at home.
              It is not worth talking about "masochism" that they have lost everything. sprats are not released, etc. etc.
              They have lost less than we have.
              But, I agree with you - this is not the most important thing.
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 24 January 2021 10: 08
            0
            Quote: nsm1
            And from the Baltic States for 30 years now, not a foot, despite the oppression, restrictions, etc.
            Say why?

            And what kind of oppression of Russians in the Baltics? Here in Ukraine, and what kind of oppression.
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    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 24 January 2021 11: 42
      0
      do you think it is so difficult for Russians to get a work visa? How funny you are.
      Russians offered me 5-7 thousand pounds for a fictitious marriage. The Russians offered their wife 10-12 thousand for a fictitious marriage and a residence permit.
      you whine when the Russian Federation began to reduce the transit of goods
      In Lithuania, the allowance for three children is 900 euros per month.
  • Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 23 January 2021 19: 35
    0
    Quote: carstorm 11
    Sprats are practically not produced there.

    How so? The European Union made such a discount to them ...
    According to European standards, in sprats, due to natural smoking, carcinogens were so off scale that the devices broke down. Allowed as an exception. It turned out that sprats, except for Russia, are of no use to anyone. Europe has enough French and Italian anchovies - how ... Well, the outskirts, perhaps, would be fed with sprats. Or Kazakhstan-Tajikistan, some ...
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 23 January 2021 21: 11
      0
      But I confess I love this muck)))) I destroyed three cans for the new year) even at night) a nightmare)
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 23 January 2021 20: 00
    +2
    Quote: carstorm 11
    Sprats are practically not produced there.

    Sprats have always been produced in the Baltics and are being produced. This is an elementary simple production. But when the USSR market was 240 million people, now they produce from 1,5 to 2 million for their needs. And it is not profitable to make them, 1 kg. sprat 2 Euro, this is for 3 banks of 1 Euro. Navar is cheap. The same picture is in Russia.
  • Alien From
    Alien From 23 January 2021 18: 50
    -1
    They'll teach them to oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 23 January 2021 18: 56
    0
    Well, now that's it, now all the Estonian "dogs of war" will teach all the broads to fight.
  • Poetry
    Poetry 23 January 2021 18: 57
    0
    And where are the Estonians with the Latvians and the rest of the offended?
  • wow
    wow 23 January 2021 19: 28
    0
    Forest brothers teach Bandera how to hide in caches!
    1. silverura
      silverura 23 January 2021 20: 13
      -3
      Forest brothers teach Bandera how to hide in caches!

      For masking, Vlasovites with ROA are not enough, that would be power. Hehe
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 23 January 2021 19: 47
    0
    We are waiting for a tenfold increase in losses from bursts of the "hammer" throws. Previously, they had time to figure out to move away, now they will not have time. Instructors don't brake. Instructors - stop cranes laughing
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 23 January 2021 19: 48
    +2
    The climate is really not much different.
    But in general, I'm tired of warning.
    UA is not a bunch of idiots. There, in terms of the military, the same guys as you and I are sitting. Absolutely. And these same guys did not stop thinking there. They continue to work further.
    Therefore, some mockery and other "giggles" ...
    This is idle talk. And shapkozidstvo.
    Which ends badly for the whistle-blower. As life shows.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 January 2021 20: 44
      0
      Quote: Benzorez
      This is idle talk. And shapkozidstvo.
      Which ends badly for the whistle-blower. As life shows.

      Yes, this is not a matter of bullying, but the fact that they invite other less trained instructors, and of course not for free, but for good money. Then they have no money for the vaccine against "Covid 19", but here they were found for the Lithuanians.
      1. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 24 January 2021 18: 00
        0
        Vaccines, then vaccines. And how good / bad the instructors are, the fire will show.
        And I, for example, on my sore back with three intervertebral hernias, would not want to crawl through the trenches.
        Well, or waist-deep in water in the warm winter of the Black Sea, stand behind a machine gun. And they will call mnu most likely as a shipbuilder for the fleet.
  • bar
    bar 23 January 2021 20: 10
    +1
    Lithuanian instructors in ukraine are something with something, literally laughing
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 January 2021 10: 15
      0
      Quote: bar
      Lithuanian instructors in ukraine are something with something, literally

      We all forgot that after the capture of Kiev and that part of Russia called Little Russia, the Great Duchy of Lithuania came (did not capture, but came) there. So the Lithuanians returned to their territory again.
  • garik77
    garik77 23 January 2021 20: 20
    +1
    Ooo, brave Lithuanian instructors? Then everyone stand, boyatstsa! belay laughing
  • APASUS
    APASUS 23 January 2021 20: 34
    +2
    I would not be surprised if Afghanistan sent its instructors to Ukraine (they have been fighting for 200 years and the Americans were ... kicked in the last battle) teach Ukrainians?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 January 2021 20: 56
      0
      Quote: APASUS
      they have been fighting for 200 years and the Americans were kicked in the last battle) And where did Lithuania fight

      Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Rzeczpospolita, Lithuanian Ulan regiment of the Republic of Ingushetia. Let them teach the lads.
    2. Orrin
      Orrin 23 January 2021 23: 08
      +6
      Quote: APASUS
      Where did Lithuania fight

      They know how to fight with monuments in the Baltics ... They will pass on / learn from experience.
  • Xenofont
    Xenofont 23 January 2021 20: 39
    0
    And what will they teach non-brothers? The only instruction that comes to mind is how to change diapers under fire as the first stage in the transition to NATO standards.
    1. Orrin
      Orrin 23 January 2021 23: 05
      +5
      Quote: Xenofont
      And what will they teach non-brothers?

      Pontam and tolerasty)
  • bessonov932
    bessonov932 23 January 2021 21: 11
    0
    Watchable! Glasses, camouflage ... Beauty contest. I propose to the jury Kadyrovtsy. Georgians did not make it to the final, I remember)
    1. Orrin
      Orrin 23 January 2021 23: 04
      +7
      Quote: bessonov932
      Glasses, camouflage ... Beauty contest.

      They need to look "courageous", beautiful, cautious. After all, in the capital of their Master the change of the "guard" took place. It is necessary to impress the new Master bully
  • Sasha from Uralmash
    Sasha from Uralmash 23 January 2021 21: 15
    -1
    NATO! MI6! Direction! But not IT by itself!
  • Jaromir
    Jaromir 23 January 2021 21: 15
    +11
    Lithuania sent a group of military instructors to Ukraine

    Everything is correct. One occupation power sends its mercenaries to exchange occupation power with another. Washington has no time for them now ...
  • RoTTor
    RoTTor 23 January 2021 21: 36
    +1
    Super! Tremble Russia and Donbass!
    Secret underground secret military experts.
    In the USSR Armed Forces on the territory of the Lithuanian SSR there were 2 not very prestigious
    VVUZ - Daugavpils aviation technical air defense,
    Vilnius School of Radio Electronics.
    There were fewer Lithuanian officers than Jewish reindeer herders,
    During the Second World War, the Lithuanian infantry of the 1st formation was
    according to the composition of the most Jewish,
    Lithuanians are more in punitive policemen.

    In vain they forgave the fact that the Lithuanians still in the evening of 21.6.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX and at night
    22.6.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX despicably killed our commanders in the apartments,
    They treacherously attacked the Red Army units.

    My friend's grandfather, senior lieutenant, was seriously wounded, in his apartment at night BEFORE the Nazi attack, he was tied up and handed over to the Germans by the Lithuanians.

    What will they teach?
    So Bandera are the same…. were
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 January 2021 19: 35
      +1
      Quote: RoTTor
      What will they teach?
      So Bandera are the same…. were

      The Forest Brothers "will teach the" Banderaites "? Or maybe they will share their experience of how Bandera kill civilians in Donbass.
  • Coconut
    Coconut 23 January 2021 22: 13
    0
    disposal of excess military
  • Pavel73
    Pavel73 23 January 2021 22: 46
    +1
    Who would have doubted ... Unsatisfied imperial ambitions of Lithuania and Poland. An immense longing for the glorious past. Actually, only these two countries are our fierce enemies. The rest are just dancing.
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 23 January 2021 22: 54
    0
    easteditors

    Did the Baltic write?

    Lithuania sent a group of military instructors to Ukraine.

    Great warriors, sproeaters)) Straight mighty laughing
  • Maikcg
    Maikcg 23 January 2021 23: 05
    -1
    Rather, we went to learn from the experience of sitting in boilers.
  • German Titov
    German Titov 24 January 2021 08: 59
    0
    Where are we going to bury them. Hello everyone from the DPR!
  • Growlers
    Growlers 24 January 2021 12: 32
    +4
    Another "great" military power. Americans are already tired of teaching raguli and sent substitutes
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 24 January 2021 18: 22
    0
    The Ukrainians have dropped completely, the Lithuanians are instructors, damn the Africans will arrive soon.
  • Vlad is short
    Vlad is short 25 January 2021 20: 01
    0
    What Lithuanian instructors can teach, they themselves have a funny army.