UK approves bill on criminal punishment for involving minors in rallies

The Investigative Committee and the Russian Supreme Court upheld a bill that would criminalize the involvement of minors in illegal rallies.

The new bill was developed by State Duma deputy Yevgeny Marchenko. He proposes to replace the administrative liability for involving minors in illegal rallies with a criminal one, which provides for imprisonment for up to five years. In addition, the same bill proposes to punish with imprisonment up to 10 years for persuading teenagers to organize mass riots.

This bill was considered by the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation. The UK said that the existing measures can no longer ensure compliance with the requirements of the law, therefore, the tightening of liability is "conceptually supported."

The bill was also considered by the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation. The official response says that the Armed Forces have comments of both legal and technical nature.

The bill is currently being considered by the Russian government.

As previously reported, the Investigative Committee opened a criminal case over the dissemination of appeals to minors on social networks to participate in illegal rallies of Navalny's supporters on January 23.

Navalny's supporters post publications on the Internet, social networks (...) in which they urge minors to participate in unauthorized rallies in Moscow and other Russian cities on January 23. Within the framework of the criminal case, a set of investigative actions and operational-search measures are being carried out aimed at identifying the persons who published calls to an unlimited circle of minors to participate in illegal activities

- said in a statement to the UK.

Comments

[Kot_Kuzya]

Put Navalny on a bottle for 10 years. Let him be punished for incitement to riot.

[VORON538]

The "most democratic" country in the world has clearly shown what can be done with the protesters, so the criminal case against the organizer is still soft!

[Stas157]

The confused main pain - Bulk. They rush around with him as with a written bag, spreading their phantom fears on the air, refuting by this that no one needs him.

Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?

[Sofa expert]

It would be much worse ..

[Stas157]

... the bill proposes to punish by imprisonment to 10 years

I think, if they could, they would put them right up against the wall.

Power is in agony. By going to extreme measures, it shows its helplessness and wild fear even in front of teenagers.

[Boris55]

Quote: Stas157

I think, if they could, they would put them right up against the wall.

To the wall not to the wall, but the prohibition against the fighters against the state should be denied access to budgetary places in universities, otherwise, as in a joke, put on a rug in front of a neighbor's door, called him and asked him to wipe a piece of paper. And by the way. All adult opponents of the state - to hold any position in the state. management.

Quote: Stas157

Power is in agony.

Unlike Janek, Putin has iron Fabergés and he has already proved this more than once in practice. do not wishful thinking.

The last "referendum" on amendments to the Constitution showed that the people are for Putin.

[Labrador]

You can do whatever you want with such people, he already lay down on his back in advance and spread his legs apart.

You don't need to project your professional skills onto those around you. Otherwise, every person with reduced social responsibility thinks that everyone around is the same.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Labrador

no need to project your professional skills onto others.

Dmitry, you shouldn't waste time on an electrician from Haifa - this is one of the corrupt runners, and has nothing to do with our country. No, of course, his passport was lying around (what if?), But, I repeat - these rotten things go through the forest, or rather the desert.

[askort154]

Paranoid50 ....but, I repeat - these rotten things go through the forest, or rather the desert.

Having fled to Israel, they "worry" about Russia to tears.
I had a good specialist (navigator) under my command. In 1998, "called the blood" to Israel. There I washed cans for 1,5 years at a small cannery, after which I rose to the rank of "accounting officer". The last thing I wrote is that I am ashamed to return home. More on the connection does not come out.
I look at the VO website, a whole team of such representatives of Israel. They are "friendly"! Two options - either
they are gnawed by resentment that they did the wrong thing, escaping to the "not promised" and burned the bridges to return, roofing felts
have extra earnings here. By the way, one of them is a "returnee" under the nickname "Krasnodar" - he sells apples in the Krasnodar Territory, but in VO he "nostalgic" for Israel, vilifying everything Russian. They don't like being called Jews. They are "Israelis", although there are many Arabs and other nationalities there. They work a lot on construction sites - Ukrainians, Moldovans and Georgians, who also "graze" on Russian Internet resources.
And viciously vilify Russia.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

More laws are good and necessary!
As for the crazy "freedom-loving" depraved idiots, it is bad that there are many of them. Sadly, but in most cases, the parents are to blame. Neglect...

[Stepan S]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

it's bad that there are a lot of them.

In fact, there are not so many of them. A third of those leaving are simply onlookers, and a third are various bloggers and other journalism to cover the "overthrow of the regime." More noise from them, they create the appearance of mass with the help of technology.

[TANKISTONE]

askort154 (Alexander) Two options - either
they are gnawed by resentment that they did the wrong thing, escaping to the "not promised" and burned the bridges to return, roofing felts
have extra earnings here.

I remembered MN Zadornov and his "Letter to Tsile". But, it would be better if the law prescribed a punishment in the form of depriving such "parents" of their rights, with sending them to the construction of the next branch of the BAM, and the children to a boarding school for difficult teenagers. And then, they take children from families and for lesser offenses, moreover, very little understanding ...

[sniperino]

Quote: Labrador

every person with reduced social responsibility thinks that everyone around is the same.

"Almost the same, only worse": high social responsibility requires confirmation by deeds, and for low social responsibility it is enough self-conceit.

[Boris55]

Quote: atalef

in your concept, any power is a state

Power - personifies the state. Take away the power and there will be no state. Does the people have the right to express their dissatisfaction with the actions of the authorities - yes, but only on legal grounds. Everything I suggested above refers to participants in unauthorized rallies..

Quote: atalef

Janek didn't have enough to shoot everyone and transplant Faberge

It was not enough to transplant a hundred - as a result, thousands died.

Quote: atalef

but Putin has enough.

Enough, don't hesitate. The siloviki are on the side of the president.

Quote: atalef

of course for. Are you sure about that?

If you have another way to find out the opinion of the people, I will listen to it with pleasure (Maidan - do not offer).

[paul3390]

Everything that I suggested above refers to participants in unauthorized rallies.

That is, I understand correctly - will it be possible to attract minors to participate in sanctioned rallies, for example, in support of the United Russia Party? And even necessary?

[Boris55]

Minors should read books.
I would generally forbid people who have no dependent two or more children to participate in the political life of the country. The brains of unmarried and childless people are concerned about others. Not about the country and its future thoughts they have.

[atalef]

Quote: Boris55

I would generally forbid people with no dependent two or more children to participate in the political life of the country. The brains of unmarried and childless people are concerned about others.

[sniperino]

Quote: Boris55

I would generally forbid people with no dependent two or more children to participate in the political life of the country.

Chill a little, Boris! If my children are already adults and are not dependent on me, then should I and others like me be legally prohibited from participating in the political life of the country? In this sense, I am just starting to live, and before that there was no time, work, you know, was not up to politics. Confucius was right: politics is for those over 60.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Boris55

Enough, don't hesitate. The siloviki are on the side of the president.

Give them a minimum wage, or at least 17 thousand (middle class) and see which side they will be on.

[cormorant]

Do you only get minimum wages? In general, there is no connection between the size of the minimum wage and the number of unrest in the world. In France, Germany, the minimum wage is much higher than ours. Is there less pogroms? What's going on in the United States with its second largest economy in the world. Maybe something else here?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: cormorant

In general, there is no connection between the size of the minimum wage and the number of unrest in the world.

Do you know how the US police went on strike 100 years ago on a paltry salary? It is because of her, dear.

[cormorant]

First, it is not entirely appropriate to compare what happened 100 years ago and the events of today. Secondly, while there was no US police as such. Each state had its own sheriff, its own salary, minimum wages, etc. I do not know how much the security officials receive, but I am firmly convinced that their salaries should be, on average, an order of magnitude higher than other state employees. In the United States, the police receive high salaries. Did they help a lot during the pogroms involving blacks? Maybe the US has more order on the streets? They have more people in their prisons than we did during our Stalinist repressions. Is this the quality of the highly paid US police?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: cormorant

They have more people in their prisons than we did during our Stalinist repressions. Is this the quality of the highly paid US police?

This is the quality of US unemployment. And we are striving there.

[cormorant]

Maria Butina can comment on the unemployed prisoners. By the way, unemployment in the United States even now jumps into a pandemic about 10%, before that it was generally less than 5%.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: cormorant

By the way, unemployment in the United States even now jumps into a pandemic about 10%, before that it was generally less than 5%.

Yeah, they just register all the unemployed.

[Mordvin 3]

Heh, an order of magnitude higher! These bums will only be for. They go shopping, catch those who do not wear muzzles.

[sniperino]

Quote: Mordvin 3

how the US police went on strike 100 years ago, receiving a paltry salary

Again, you do not see the difference between money and beliefs: going on strike because of a low salary and going over to the side of your opponent / opponent is DIFFERENT. They did not begin to smash stalls and rob banks, but went on strike.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: sniperino

Again, don't see the difference between money and belief

Well, beliefs will change, in the same Boston police there were enough cadres sympathetic to the socialists.

[Bar1]

Quote: Boris55

Does the people have the right to express their dissatisfaction with the actions of the authorities - yes, but only on legal grounds.

Right is the will of the ruling class, clothed in law
Lenin

so usually the one with the most rights is right.

[Rubi0]

Why are you holding a meeting if there are elections? Wait for the elections or are you citizens of the banana republic, a monkey without intelligence?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Boris55

but the prohibition against the fighters against the state should be closed access to budget places in universities,

[Cosm22]

To begin with, you would have figured out the terminology, Mr. Lipchanin.
They would clarify who the "fighters against the state" are. And what is "revolution". Is this good or bad.
Otherwise, you can even get cited before sedition.
And all honest people will understand what the events of 1917 were like. When a handful of outlawed people through an armed coup overthrew the body of power chosen by the Russian people - the Constituent Assembly - and then usurped it. And then for 70 years we were told that it was done correctly. Which is good.
So why then it was good, but today it suddenly became bad? Why earlier it was possible and even necessary to overthrow the government, but today you cannot even think?
Why, when in 1917 the power of the rich was thrown off, it was right, but today it is not? Or do we have no distinction between rich and poor today? Or do we all receive 2 million rubles a day today? And outside the window is the kingdom of social justice? And we don't have rich people who are tightly occupying the lines of the Forbes list? There are no beggars and disadvantaged people, for whose medicines we collect text messages from the whole world?
These are the quotes that you have posted provide a theoretical basis for the fact that the events of 1917 were a historical mistake. For any revolution, as can be understood from such quotes, is evil.
You would be more careful with such quotations. For they give rise to doubts in the minds of people.
Hooray patriots who started a campaign to erect monuments to Comrade Stalin (far from the last person in the rehearsals of 1917), this is unlikely to like it.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Cosm22

You would first understand the terminology,

Well, where did you see my terminology?

[Cosm22]

Do you need to point your finger to the word "revolution" in quotation marks?
And explain in what cases quotes are put?
So this is not for me, for this - to school.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Cosm22

Do you need to point your finger to the word "revolution" in quotation marks?

Actually there is about the revolution in China

And explain in what cases quotes are put?

So I can't remake someone else's poster
I just said that I completely agree with him.

[Cosm22]

So it is precisely that sometimes you need to be more careful with quotes, I am hinting.
By the way, do you agree with what? That Stalin and Lenin were wrong when they started THINKING about revolution?

[paul3390]

a handful of outlawed people through an armed coup overthrew the body of power chosen by the Russian people - the Constituent Assembly - and then usurped it

First, the Bolsheviks were the second largest party in the Constituent Assembly, and not at all a bunch of outlaws. Secondly, the Social Revolutionaries were the first. That is, they are the same socialists who simply have a different view of its implementation. So, alas, Russia in the elections to the Constituent Assembly for the most part voted for SOCIALISM .. And the dispersal of the meeting is just a showdown between different factions of socialists. You need to know the history of your country, and not repeat liberal propaganda ...

[Cosm22]

Yes of course.
That is why the Bolsheviks (I clarify - the party that was outlawed in the Russian Empire), who were in the minority in relation to the Socialist-Revolutionaries in the US, destroyed this majority (if this act is not usurpation - then what?) and demonstrations of workers (for which they have recently been campaigning) and massacred a mass of people during the dispersal of the demonstrations of the disaffected.
According to today's laws, such an act is qualified as an attempt on the power. And the Bolshevik party itself would be called a bunch of agents of foreign influence.

[paul3390]

AKP: 279 seats RSDLP (B): 159 seats Local socialists: 103 seats PNS: 32 seats RSDLP (M): 22 seats TNSP: 6 seats National parties: 68 seats Right-wing parties: 10 seats Others: 28 seats

Have you seen a lot of cadets here? Once again, this is a showdown between socialists of different factions, nothing more. The Bolsheviks won in all major cities, the Social Revolutionaries in the countryside. And since then there were noticeably more peasants - hence the alignment. If the Bolsheviks had not dispersed the Constituent Assembly, it would still be socialism in Russia. Just a little different. And it is not a fact that it is more correct and better. So what - what do you care about those events? Your sympathizers were in flight anyway ..

An attempt on power, you say? And how does the shooting of the White House and the dispersal of the Congress of People's Deputies and the Supreme Soviet of the Russian Federation qualify? And the participants and initiators themselves are not a bunch of agents of foreign influence? No? Why? Why such a one-sided view of the world? By the way, they are still at the helm of the country.

I am already silent about the obvious and flagrantly illegal usurpation of power, which is popularly called zeroing ...

[Cosm22]

The shooting of the DB can only be qualified as a coup d'etat and nothing else. You cannot shoot tanks at the legislative power of the country.
As for zeroing, I have big doubts about the legality of what happened.
But I am interested in another question.
Why is it possible and necessary to overthrow the government and break the state system in one historical epoch, because it turns out to be a blessing for the people, this is a revolution?
And you can't do it in another. The very word "revolution" is put in quotation marks and becomes abusive.
Why is that? Where is the criterion?
Is it only that now we are at the trough, and we cannot be touched?

[paul3390]

A revolution is a change in the ruling class. Everything else is a coup. Socialist revolution - takes place in favor of the majority of the population, that is, the working people. Bourgeois - in favor of a handful of thieves and exploiters. This is the criterion.

What, for example, is now trying to pull off the bulk of the company - this is a bourgeois coup, which has nothing to do with us, the people ..

How do you share wars, for example? Why is the Patriotic War - fair and popular from the point of view of the people of Russia, but for example the First World War - not? So here too - it all depends on who benefits from what is happening .. From the point of view of a bourgeois or a nobleman - the Great October Revolution was of course a terrible injustice. And from the point of view of the worker? A peasant? Farmhouse?

[Cosm22]

Great!
So much so that I even have to quote you: "So here too - it all depends on who benefits from what is happening."
And who benefits from what is happening today? From banning rallies, demonstrations, reposts, criticism of the authorities?
Can you announce the list of beneficiaries from the ban on all revolutions?
And it turns out that the matter is only in your benefit? In commercialism, in money-grubbing?
Here it is, Mikhalych!
I myself would never have guessed before. Thank you.

[paul3390]

And in your opinion-humanity is guided exclusively by idealism or what ?? How old are you?

Naturally, the ruling class always benefits, but it is the big bourgeoisie. Therefore, it stifles any opposition to its criminal activity. Is this a revelation for you?

[Cosm22]

For me, just not.
I am afraid this will be a revelation for jingoistic patriots who believe that an ideal political system has been built in Russia and do not want to change anything. For this act is illegal, immoral and in general it is the machinations of the State Department and foreign agents.

[paul3390]

Any change of government is illegal and immoral from the point of view of the previous one.

Therefore, I say - there is exactly one criterion who will benefit from this change. And from whose point of view to consider this event. Since I am a communist by conviction, for me personally, the overthrow of the current dictatorship of the oligarchy is undoubtedly an extremely charitable and just thing. But I have no doubt that, let's say, Putin has exactly the opposite point of view.

[NKT]

A revolution is the same coup. Why invent something else? Or according to the principle “this is different”?
The Bolsheviks called him so among themselves - a coup, up to 26-27gg.

Lenin, in his speeches, often flashes phrases coup / revolution.

Lenin's speech at the Petersburg Council of R. and S. D. October 26, 1917).

Comrades! Workers and Peasants revolution, about the necessity of which the Bolsheviks were talking all the time, has come to pass.
What is the significance of this worker and peasant revolution? First of all, the meaning of this coup consists in the fact that we will have a Soviet government, our own organ of power, without any participation of the bourgeoisie.

And Stalin's article is even titled like this
"October coup and the national question".

Great worldwide importance Oktyabrsky coup is mainly that it:
1) expanded the scope of the national question, turning it from a private question of the struggle against national oppression in Europe into a general question of the liberation of oppressed peoples, colonies and semi-colonies from imperialism

[nickname7]

A revolution is the same coup. Why invent something else

No one invents history is written by the winners.

[three]

Interesting ... Both are right. But now all disputes on such topics are throwing between right and left opportunism (Kautsky or Trotsky), since in our time, private ownership of the means of production is not denied even in China (I will not say anything about the Communist Party of the Russian Federation), which means that the social revolution is canceled. The maximum is a coup ... In the end, a revolutionary situation is brewing, but the tops are still holding out, but the budget has already become deficit, since revenues are leaking out (for example, Deripaska and K), i.e. there is not enough money to resist and it is a matter of time. Which way will we go? Here the word is for the Russian peasant ... not for the bulk, not for the Jews, not for the Kasparovs ... The peasant will get up, gouge everything, as usual, and then as God willing ...

[paul3390]

private ownership of the means of production is not denied even in China (I will not say anything about the Communist Party of the Russian Federation), which means that the social revolution is canceled.

And once again - in China, the NEP, just stretched out for a longer time. No social revolution is required there, for the Communist Party is at the helm, acting in the interests of the country and the people. And tightly controlling the bourgeoisie. Do not believe me - read how such a cult figure as Jack Ma is severely flattened, as soon as he forgot about it for a second ..

[three]

In China - not NEP, but a strategy enshrined in amendments to the Constitution, but not the essence, we are not talking about China ... About Russia, there will be a coup, a matter of time ... Six months, a year, three ... And it's not about Western technologies ... The same Marx considered the revolution in Russia impossible. The point is in the Russian (not Russian, but - Russian) mentality, and this is genetics.

[paul3390]

I will say more - Ilyich himself wrote in 1916 that he would not live to see the socialist revolution .. And how it turned out to be Evon .. But Lenin's head was not like us, nonesh ..

[three]

So all the troubles are due to the fact that the classics were forgotten, after all, Lenin and Marx spelled out everything, no - give them Camus.

[nickname7]

outlawed party in the Russian Empire

What laws are you talking about? After the overthrow of the king, laws ceased to exist. No, and no trial. All subsequent events were interregnum, chaos.

[Crabio]

Remarkably simple. And .... in February 1917 was not a coup d'etat? I find it funny when today February 1917 is called a "revolution" and October - suddenly - a "coup". This is very strange and does not stand up to any criticism. The coup took place in February. That's where we need to start. To start.

[paul3390]

I'll tell you more - for about 10 years the Bolsheviks called the October Revolution quite officially the October Revolution. And only when it became clear that a change in the ruling class really took place - it became a revolution ..

[sniperino]

Quote: Cosm22

When a handful of outlawed people through an armed coup overthrew the body of power chosen by the Russian people - the Constituent Assembly - and then usurped it. And then for 70 years we were told that it was done correctly. Which is good.
So why then it was good, but today it suddenly became bad?

Today you were told that it was not good then, and now. But you don't want to listen to this. Therefore, it is time to add a very quick deed to a kind word, as in the army, by definition of a film ensign.

[nickname7]

When a bunch of outlawed people through an armed coup overthrew the government chosen by the Russian people

Such ka, you had a peaceful rich RI, and suddenly a handful appeared that overthrew everyone, this handful apparently destroyed the mammoths and cut off the head of Marie Antoinette.

The provisional government, after the overthrow of the commander-in-chief during the war, which symbolizes the idiocy of those leaders, received power and carte blanche, but they flushed their chance down the toilet, by stupid decrees, which is only decree 1 on the election of commanders in the army, the army fled, deserters filled the capital , six months later, RI collapsed, disintegrated, the Bolsheviks are the point of crystallization of the new state.
We are traditionally fixated on revolutions, but there is a much better doctrine "Controlled chaos" according to which color revolutions and coups are organized.

Why earlier it was possible and even necessary to overthrow the government, but today you cannot even think?

Because the communists were in power, and now socialism is anathema and is practically a dirty word, today capital rules, so it's not fond of touching the rich.

Why earlier it was possible and even necessary to overthrow the government, but today you cannot even think?

And this is a strange paradox, anti-Soviet people do not accept everything related to the Soviet regime and even refuse to study positive organizational experience, for example, what is workers 'and peasants' councils
There is an opinion that the modern so-called opposition is a distraction of the population from dangerous methods for the authorities, they say, just a little bit, for the authorities it is not dangerous, the main thing is not to touch the oligarchy.

when in 1917 the power of the rich was thrown off, it was right, but today it is not?

Again, you don’t understand what kind of events happened then, the government did not become due to the collapse of the Republic of Ingushetia, the collapse was provoked by the First World War, if it were not for the last tsar would easily suppress any discontent with the help of a sufficiently strong state apparatus, but the state apparatus could not fulfill its functions due to the severe economic crisis, hyperinflation, lack of bread and invasions of thousands of dithers, you do not have a crisis.
According to the doctrine of controlled chaos, the system cannot be reformed while it is strong, first the system must be broken so that chaos ensues, then there are points of exit of their chaos, for example, feudalism or capitalism, in 17 they left chaos into socialism. In 91, through internal decay and partial chaos, capitalism emerged.
Today's rich do not want to be thrown off, with the help of the control of the state apparatus, the rich will suppress any threat.

There are no beggars and disadvantaged people, for whose medicines we collect text messages from the whole world?

In the west, by the way, the rich felt a threat in the form of a union and adopted reforms from above to redistribute part of the wealth to the bottom through a progressive tax, cards and benefits to the poor, through the construction of houses, they say, a person who has his own house and two cars will not go to overthrow the power. In the Russian Federation, the rich do not feel threatened, therefore, they distribute wealth in their favor.

[Professor]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Boris55

but the prohibition against the fighters against the state should be closed access to budget places in universities,

It is not enough to exclude the talented, courageous, thinking and have their own opinion from universities. They must be deprived of their citizenship and expelled from the Russian Federation. Desirable to Israel.

PS
We will accept everyone.

[lopvlad]

Quote: Professor

We will accept everyone.

Israel itself is still not accepted by the neighboring countries.

[Professor]

Quote: lopvlad

Quote: Professor

We will accept everyone.

Israel itself is still not accepted by the neighboring countries.

1. This is not true. In addition to Lebanon and Syria, the rest of us have peace, friendship and gum.
2. This did not prevent Israel from developing dynamically and prospering.

[tralflot1832]

You have that heaven, and suddenly the pipe will fly from Gaza. There are places better than the Canary Islands, for example, I liked it there. The Spanish girls are beautiful, the wine is cheap. Just work, don't be lazy, blooper.

[tralflot1832]

Take Navalny first, and the rest of the load. In Sochi, you can walk in formation along the embankment. What can I say from you, even combat dolphins are running. In 2008, one of them frolicked with vacationers. He had a tattoo on his side that he was the property of the Israeli Navy, and They figured out a deserter. Today it is warm, young people are skating and not protesting, even Armenian friends. How far they are from protestors. And why was Yitzhak Rabin shot?

[Mimoxod]

Tyafkan of a Semitic and a traitor to the Motherland, which taught you to speak Russian, but did not learn to think like a goat, sorry, a slave of Western paradise, in many respects doubtful , USA, this is goat-bearded for you, will show by its example how your Anglo-Saxon world is falling And you are all hangers and wasalls of America, you will stay with carrots instead of ki

Quote: Professor

So we will accept your "troublemakers" too. And you will walk in formation.

[Bolt cutter]

We will accept everyone.

And get maidan .

[Professor]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

We will accept everyone.

And get maidan .

We will not get it. Our power changes in elections. This time. We are allowed to demonstrate even in the most severe quarantine. These are two. Do you want to blow off some steam? Go meet.

PS
But Navalny (more precisely, FBK) would not hurt us. It seems that corruption is gaining momentum in our country.

[Bolt cutter]

corruption is gaining momentum in our country.

Navalny creates the appearance of fighting corruption because he wants to participate in it (corruption). He himself is the same, if not worse.

[Professor]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

corruption is gaining momentum in our country.

Navalny creates the appearance of fighting corruption because he wants to participate in it (corruption). He himself is the same, if not worse.

We just lack such "visibility". The prosecutor's office will have something to do.

[Bolt cutter]

Take it for yourself. He really was a Russian nationalist before, but if he warms up, he becomes a mother Zionist ... The main thing is to feed well .

[Professor]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

Take it for yourself. He really was a Russian nationalist before, but if he warms up, he becomes a mother Zionist ... The main thing is to feed well .

86% of all repatriates from the Russian Federation are not Jews. We are more interested in your students, but let's take Navalny as well.

[Bolt cutter]

and let's take Navalny.

You will cut ?

[Professor]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

and let's take Navalny.

You will cut ?

No.

[Bolt cutter]

That, even twice conditionally you will not ?

[Professor]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

That, even twice conditionally you will not ?

No.

Quote: Bolt Cutter

86% of all repatriates from the Russian Federation are not Jews

Then they are not repatriates, but ordinary immigrants.

Repatriates. According to the "Law of Return".

[Bolt cutter]

Where do they "return"? Jews, of course, to the homeland of their ancestors. And the non-Jews? Just wondering.
And you won't like Navlny, you have to work and pay taxes. And you won't divorce anyone for donations - all around there are Jews , no matter how they themselves have been bred

[Professor]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

Where do they "return"? Jews, of course, to the homeland of their ancestors. And the non-Jews? Just wondering.
And you won't like Navlny, you have to work and pay taxes. And you won't divorce anyone for donations - all around there are Jews , no matter how they themselves have been bred

To the homeland of their ancestors, however.

Article 4 aleph.
Family members' rights:
https://knesset.gov.il/laws/ru/lawofreturn_ru.htm
aleph). The rights of a Jew under this law, and the rights of a repatriate under the "Law on Citizenship (1952)", as well as rights of a repatriate in accordance with all other legislative acts, are also granted to a child and a grandson of a Jew, a spouse / wife of a Jew and a spouse / wife of children, and grandson of a Jew;

[Bolt cutter]

That is, Jews and their family members. Nothing worth mentioning in this article.

[Professor]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

Nothing worth mentioning in this article.

?

[Bolt cutter]

They do not flee from the uncomfortable, hungry, cold Russia, as you are trying to expose, but go to live in Israel, feeling their involvement in it. So Latvians, who were born and raised in Canada, left to live in Latvia - this did not mean that everything is terribly bad in Canada.

[Professor]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

They do not flee from the uncomfortable, hungry, cold Russia, as you are trying to expose, but go to live in Israel, feeling their involvement in it.

You made me laugh. They just run so much "feeling their involvement in him" that they continue to walk demonstratively with crosses around their necks.

Quote: Bolt Cutter

So Latvians, who were born and raised in Canada, left to live in Latvia - this did not mean that everything is terribly bad in Canada.

So the Latvians, and here are Jews 14% of all who arrived. But we don't mind. And we also call to go.

[Bolt cutter]

86% of all repatriates from the Russian Federation are not Jews

Then they are not repatriates, but ordinary immigrants.

[Albert1988]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

Navalny creates the appearance of fighting corruption because he wants to participate in it (corruption). He himself is the same, if not worse.

He is already participating - he does not hide that he works for Zimin, the founder of Beeline.
Now tell me - how is it possible in Russia to be such a big businessman, who rose in the 90s, and at the same time be free from corruption?
Interestingly, is Navalny investigating the corruption of Zimin and his entourage?

And yet - in some mysterious way, in Navalny's investigations there is not a word about people associated with Alfa Bank ...
"Alfa Bank is the fairest bank in the world!"

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Professor

We will not get it. Our power changes in elections. This time. We are allowed to demonstrate even in the most severe quarantine. These are two. Do you want to blow off some steam? Go meet.

Here go and hold a meeting. You have Netanyahu a thief and a corrupt official. And at home, we ourselves will somehow figure it out.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Professor

To exclude from universities talented, courageous, thinking and having their own opinion

What's the problem? If they are, then they will break through.

[Albert1988]

Quote: Professor

It is not enough to exclude the talented, courageous, thinking and have their own opinion from universities. They must be deprived of their citizenship and expelled from the Russian Federation. Desirable to Israel.

I was just in graduate school, when in the 12th these "smart and courageous" went to the swamp - I saw a lot of them at Moscow State University, such "smart-and-courageous with their own opinion" - I'll tell you - no one more stupid , lazy, unwilling to do anything besides aimless parties, than these "smart-and-courageous" I have never seen before or after ... And more cowardly too - fear of how they were afraid of the slightest responsibility for their actions, especially as one cheerful uncle then put a rumor into the student chats of Moscow State University that all the bogies would be expelled)))) Oh, how they ran, how excited the "smart-and-brave"

In general, two familiar professors, a leading researcher and four junior researchers then went to Bolotnaya. We went there in enthusiasm - they say, finally, the consolidation of opposition political forces, "let's say our weighty civic word to the stale authorities!"

Darker clouds returned - "what are these clowns and what, God forbid, will be if they take power?" Especially many warm words were said about Navalny ...

Py.Sy .: In general, this is a "good" idea - to send all such smart-and-courageous-with-their-own-opinions to Israel - then in 10 years it will turn into an analogue of Syria ... Or the prisons there will be overwhelmed. ..

Py.Sy: Specifically, according to our long-standing dispute, Prof - here I had the opportunity to talk with some interesting people, talk about technical questions, so I'll write you their answer somehow

[Professor]

Quote: Albert1988

Py.Sy .: In general, this is a "good" idea - to send all such smart-and-courageous-with-their-own-opinions to Israel - then in 10 years it will turn into an analogue of Syria ... Or the prisons there will be overwhelmed. ..

Submit.

Quote: Albert1988

Py.Sy: Specifically, according to our long-standing dispute, Prof - here I had the opportunity to talk with some interesting people, talk about technical questions, so I'll write you their answer somehow

Look forward to.

[Albert1988]

Quote: Professor

Submit.

They don't want to! You have to work there in order to live well)). And not just work, but plow! And the "smart-and-courageous" already live well here on their mother's money, being in the holy conviction that money is something like genetic features - if the parents have it, then it will be transferred to you absolutely without effort)))

[Professor]

Quote: Albert1988

They don't want to! You have to work there in order to live well)). And not just work, but plow!

Come on. Vaughn MAZ itself does not work and listen to him here 50% of the population are parasites.

[Albert1988]

Quote: Professor

Vaughn MAZ itself does not work and listen to him here 50% of the population are parasites.

Well, I don’t know for MAZ, but I know for “my own”, MGushnykh - if someone goes to the square to express their own opinion with placards, that slacker and loafers, who really has their own opinion and wants to do something, they work quietly, because understands - nothing is decided on the squares ...
By the way, I know a lot of guys who later left for Israel after the asper - and so, there are no "chatters" among them ...

[Professor]

Quote: Albert1988

Well, I don’t know for MAZ, but I know for “my own”, MGushnykh - if someone goes to the square to express their own opinion with placards, that slacker and loafers, who really has their own opinion and wants to do something, they work quietly, because understands - nothing is decided on the squares ...

I will not say anything, otherwise they will be banned again.

Quote: Albert1988

By the way, I know a lot of guys who later left for Israel after the asper - and so, there are no "chatters" among them ...

This is their choice. Is not it?

[Albert1988]

Quote: Professor

I will not say anything, otherwise they will be banned again.

Well, you are censored))) Censored))) We are educated people!

Quote: Professor

This is their choice. Is not it?

Them, conscious, but the "bogs" and would be glad to get away somewhere - just sit here with sydney! Because "over the hill" it is necessary to work, there is no kind mother and folders with thick wooden pockets ...

[Revival]

“I was just in graduate school, when in 12th these 'smart and courageous' went to Bolotnaya, two familiar professors, a leading researcher and four junior researchers then went to Bolotnaya.
I'll tell you - I have never seen anyone more dumb, lazy, unwilling to do anything than these "smart-and-courageous" before or after ... And more cowardly, too - fear, as they were afraid of the slightest responsibility for their actions.

So it turns out?
Well, so without double standards.
Hmm ...
Well, you have a collectivist, you can hardly see what you could learn with all your desire.
It's a pity..

[Petro_tut]

What about religion?

[spolo]

On the one hand, it is even useful - look how many hands are required, not to sit in universities. And the army is waiting ... So go for it, shkolota

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Boris55

The last "referendum" on amendments to the Constitution showed that the people are for Putin.

[Observer2014]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Boris55

The last "referendum" on amendments to the Constitution showed that the people are for Putin.

I would like to meet such a "kibalchish boy" alive Ay "kibachiball boys" Where are you besides the Internet? I go out into the street and you are not. From the word in general. Where can you meet a Zaputin on the street? Where is his 80% support in life? Wherever you look. anything except Putin's podderzhki.Visite.Slabo? Show that you are at all. And then besides the Internet, zaputinians and does not smell anywhere

[Quadro]

Quote: Observer2014

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Boris55

The last "referendum" on amendments to the Constitution showed that the people are for Putin.

I would like to meet such a "kibalchish boy" alive Ay "kibachiball boys" Where are you besides the Internet? I go out into the street and you are not. From the word in general. Where can you meet a Zaputin on the street? Where is his 80% support in life? Wherever you look. anything except Putin's podderzhki.Visite.Slabo? Show that you are at all. And then besides the Internet, zaputinians and does not smell anywhere

You generally go to Donetsk, otherwise you ran away to us and you still have the audacity to blame Putin and the Russians. Your lands are dying in the trenches, and you are making comments here. So don't you stink about "other than the Internet".

[Observer2014]

Quote: Quadro

Quote: Observer2014

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Boris55

The last "referendum" on amendments to the Constitution showed that the people are for Putin.

I would like to meet such a "kibalchish boy" alive Ay "kibachiball boys" Where are you besides the Internet? I go out into the street and you are not. From the word in general. Where can you meet a Zaputin on the street? Where is his 80% support in life? Wherever you look. anything except Putin's podderzhki.Visite.Slabo? Show that you are at all. And then besides the Internet, zaputinians and does not smell anywhere

You generally go to Donetsk, otherwise you ran away to us and you still have the audacity to blame Putin and the Russians. Your lands are dying in the trenches, and you are dabbling with cosmetics here. So don't you stink about "other than the Internet".

In general, as always. There is no one on the street. Only on the Internet and in elections you can meet a zaputintsy. With his 80% support?

[Achilles]

Quote: Observer2014

In general, as always. There is no one on the street. Only on the Internet and in elections you can meet a zaputintsy. With his 80% support?

They also thought so on the swamp, the organizers were found and collected a large amount for Putin and now it will also be there, if necessary

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Observer2014

In general, as always. There is no one on the street

How is anyone? Full of people

can be found zaputintsy.

I've read YOUR comments and answers from other members of the forum, no one has ever called YOU
You insult every other time
Do you have such a manual, when there are no arguments, use a "confused"

[VORON538]

But there you can immediately see the puppy!

[VORON538]

You say in Russian, observer: to your homeland, to your fellow countrymen !!! Or did you pro-Maidan your Ukraine, now you got to muddle the waters with us? That Don’t live in the DPR? Are you sitting out in Sochi? I am sincerely sorry that I am not a resident of this beautiful city, I live in Blago!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Observer2014

I would like to meet such a "kibalchish boy" alive

I do not advise

Wherever you look. anything except Putin's support

Already supported in the elections and in the referendum

[Observer2014]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Observer2014

I would like to meet such a "kibalchish boy" alive

I do not advise

Wherever you look. anything except Putin's support

Already supported in the elections and in the referendum

Why? Is there 80% more health or 80% more health? Hahaha !! That meeting with such is zero? It is clear what to poison
you can anyone. Well, or shoot on the bridge. Where is the massive support for Putin ?! Apart from the Internet and elections, it does not exist. Grannies under the entrance have not drowned for him for a long time And that says a lot

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Observer2014

It is clear what to poison
anyone can.

Well, they have already been poisoned twice with a BATTLE poisonous substance.
And then they saved their lives and gave the Germans for treatment.
For a long time no one is funny from this delirium
By the way, the basement insulted the doctors who saved his life.

[Observer2014]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Observer2014

It is clear what to poison
anyone can.

Well, they have already been poisoned twice with a BATTLE poisonous substance.
And then they saved their lives and gave the Germans for treatment.
For a long time no one is funny from this delirium
By the way, the basement insulted the doctors who saved his life.

In general, Navalny was created by right of birth in spite of Putin. One is of normal height, looks great. The wife is beautiful and faithfully looks powerful like a cool cut. The second thing is that there is a bow on the side. Which one is who?

[Bolt cutter]

One of normal height, looks great.

And the second got the well-deserved nickname shisyan ... Why was he so named, you know?

[Dart2027]

Quote: Observer2014

The second is generally a devil as a bow on the side

Just a master of sports in judo and sambo, he served in the KGB.

[cormorant]

The fact of the matter is that those who are against it, sit at home, enjoy the weekend after the working week, walk or take care of children. Do you want the street carnage to begin? For what, for the sake of a beautiful picture for the Western media? What will you achieve with these pogroms that Navalny will be released? I don't understand what you are trying to achieve, regime change? What nonsense!

[Svarog]

Quote: Observer2014

Show that you are at all. And then, apart from the Internet, zaputinians and does not smell anywhere

Not in the internet zaputintsy just does not smell ... but on the federal media there is really full approval ..
Here's a guy who regularly conducts surveys on the street ..

[Observer2014]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Observer2014

Show that you are at all. And then, apart from the Internet, zaputinians and does not smell anywhere

Not in the internet zaputintsy just does not smell ... but on the federal media there is really full approval ..
Here's a guy who regularly conducts surveys on the street ..

[tralflot1832]

Land and whom did you ride on snowmobiles on Krasnaya Polyana, there are many interesting things besides tourists.

[Alex Justice]

Biased interview. The journalist is not honest.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Observer2014

I go out into the street and you are not.

What do you ask everyone?

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Observer2014

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Boris55

The last "referendum" on amendments to the Constitution showed that the people are for Putin.

I would like to meet such a "kibalchish boy" alive Ay "kibachiball boys" Where are you besides the Internet? I go out into the street and you are not. From the word in general. Where can you meet a Zaputin on the street? Where is his 80% support in life? Wherever you look. anything except Putin's podderzhki.Visite.Slabo? Show that you are at all. And then besides the Internet, zaputinians and does not smell anywhere

I, too, did not meet a single one, I was about 30 minutes ago on the Nevsky, I planned to see a crowd of thousands of 5 people, in support of Putin, I did not meet a single one.
Lipchanin, will you come out in support today? The main thing is not to go far from the riot police, people will not regret

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Vol4ara

see a crowd of thousands of 5 people in support of Putin,

And what, the rally was announced in support?
Do I have to go out with posters, urge youngsters to support VVP?
Or maybe just support the elections and live in peace?

[Antidote]

They are all in the Lakhta-2 business center in St. Petersburg, on Optikov Street

[atalef]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Boris55

The last "referendum" on amendments to the Constitution showed that the people are for Putin.

[Revival]

Two examples are especially indicative "
"Workers from the plant", who were going to the swamp, they began to bankrupt the plant in gratitude,
And the gendarmes with a mournful video all over the country, they say we are for you at the balotnaya, and we were thrown out as waste material .....)))
Well, that's all later ..

[Svarog]

Unlike Janek, Putin has iron Fabergés and he has already proved this more than once in practice. do not wishful thinking.

Iron faberge? Then I look Rosgvardia organized .., adopted laws about the lack of jurisdiction of myself and friends, reset to zero .. Apparently afraid that the Faberge can be broken.
And yet, when a person makes a promise to the whole country not to raise the retirement age, and then asks for understanding .. then the Faberge is not visible here .. And when his subordinates fail, all his decrees .. and he is satisfied with them .. in general, what kind of Faberge are we talking about?

[Quadro]

Quote: Svarog

Unlike Janek, Putin has iron Fabergés and he has already proved this more than once in practice. do not wishful thinking.

Iron faberge? Then I look Rosgvardia organized .., adopted laws about the lack of jurisdiction of myself and friends, reset to zero .. Apparently afraid that the Faberge can be broken.
And yet, when a person makes a promise to the whole country not to raise the retirement age, and then asks for understanding .. then the Faberge is not visible here .. And when his subordinates fail, all his decrees .. and he is satisfied with them .. in general, what kind of Faberge are we talking about?

You, instead of kalyakat that.y rubbish would ask what is the National Guard. Internal troops with military equipment - we do not see or hear. Rosgvardia with police special forces and chopovtsy is bloody. Why don't you croak to the US National Guard? They generally have everything. And I don’t remember that Putin brought 25 thousand guardsmen to Moscow and put them on the floor in the State Duma. You still croak "the authorities are afraid of the people"

[Tank hard]

Quote: Svarog

Iron faberge? Then I look Rosgvardia organized .., adopted laws about the lack of jurisdiction of myself and friends, reset to zero .. Apparently afraid that the Faberge can be broken.
And yet, when a person makes a promise to the whole country not to raise the retirement age, and then asks for understanding .. then Faberge is not visible here .. And when his subordinates fail, all his decrees .. and he is happy with them .. in general, what kind of Faberge are we talking about?

Do you write to your phone from the rally, or are you uncompromisingly fighting "mode" from your sofa?

[Svarog]

Quote: Svarog

Iron faberge?

This is in addition ..

[Hagen]

Quote: Svarog

Apparently afraid that the Faberge might be defeated.

In fact, for his Fabergés, he has at his disposal a lot of influential and effective structures without the National Guard. The very same Rosgvardia was created just so that in the heat of political polemics it is you and those like you who are not recaptured by these Faberges. You, obviously, in your life have not seen normal mass riots, even on a small scale, except on TV. But since you are an entity resentful of everything related to government, you are not able to understand this simple truth. This is neither good nor bad. Just a fact ...

[cormorant]

Is there an alternative? If this is Navalny, then there are no more questions for you.

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: Boris55

To the wall not to the wall, but the prohibition against the fighters against the state should be denied access to budgetary places in universities

What is so weak then? In the old topic about flamethrowers, your like-minded people from flamethrowers suggested shooting demonstrations.

Quote: Boris55

Unlike Janek, Putin has iron faberge and he has already proved it more than once in practice

Sitting in a bunker during a pandemic and showing unwavering composure?
Do you mean that? Or the recognition of the fascist regime in Ukraine? Or do you mean the situation with the LPNR?

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

And why only a ban on budgetary universities? And why should medical care be free for screamers and maidans? I do not agree with the policy of the state - pay for all social benefits and guarantees.

[Revival]

Why do we collect everything for the children for treatment, beat in the chest, so we will accept the amendments and there will be no more of this !?
And, another hundred years have to wait for the effect, it's clear ...

[Revival]

Well then, voice that the maximum is a little more than half, even judging by the results of the vote

[Varyag71]

The so-called referendum showed that the authorities do not care about people. Putin seems to have already imagined himself a king.

[tagil]

Power is needed not so that the country has a paradise (you can please the liberals, at least turn inside out), power in the country is needed so that there is no hell (which you are trying to arrange here).

[210ox]

About hell. Of course, it is not needed categorically. But the authorities start this process. Flirting with liberal organizations and the media, unsuccessful (to put it mildly) decisions in lawmaking and economics. The question of involving youngsters was eight years late. For the life of me, I don't understand, why was the anal allowed into the country? Germany would have completely sheltered him, as well as another tagged geek.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: 210ox

Germany would have completely sheltered him, as well as another tagged geek.

Well no. He was thrown out of there, although they did it gracefully

[210ox]

I was so hoping that there would be another Pavlensky (this one is in a psychiatric hospital in France)

[Lipchanin]

Quote: 210ox

I was so hoping that there would be another Pavlensky

You are not alone
I already got this basement with my lies
How I hoped he would stay there ...
But even there he was not needed

[VORON538]

Baba Angela will not be allowed to be jailed or sent to a psychiatric hospital. This is an objective reality. And all zaluzhniks are only interested in the navalner. They only do not care about Platoshkin, Kvachkov, Furgal, as they do not care about them and our liberals. And this already says a lot!

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: 210ox

For the life of me, I don't understand, why was the anal allowed into the country?

I wonder, and on what grounds could he be refused entry?

[210ox]

There would be a person, but there is an article. I do not at all like the actions of the authorities at all levels, but I am categorically against arranging a barrack in the country. I repeat once again, the current decision is belated.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: 210ox

but also arrange barracks the country is strongly against it.

interesting disclaimer)

So after all, I think you are for barracks, not?

[210ox]

For a barrack for some especially gifted. But definitely against the mess. And this is an OS clause on the phone, and I haven't checked what I wrote.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: 210ox

For a barrack for some especially gifted. But definitely against the mess.

I understand, I understand.
The bogus snout can rely on you. And yesterday's decree of the benefactor also canceled the age limit. Pralna - nefig young hungry Voltaireans in the power to do - old tame marasmatics are more reliable. They will gnaw their throats for their good, acquired by overwhelming bureaucratic labor and assigned to their wives, elderly mothers, grand-nephews, etc., while the face of Putin is on their icon. And they, if you know, consider you rubbish. True, they use the polite word "electorate". Keep it up.

[210ox]

Correctly hungry Voltaireans in power have nothing to do. They were already there. They staged terror during the French Revolution and messed up our affairs in the early 90s.

[tagil]

According to the law, we cannot refuse to let our citizen into the country. But for close, open communication with the secret services of foreign countries hostile to us, we simply have to imprison (since there is not enough spirit to put the spirit against the wall) for treason.

[210ox]

Maybe it really is. Since we are so and so, bad guys, so do the bad thing (depending on how you look at it). All the same, political relations with the West are completely ruined.

[tagil]

Yes, we just now have to punish him and his entire gang in the most cruel way, showing all the other liberals, here with us, what will be done to them in case of anything, and in the west, that interference in our affairs will be stopped immediately and without mercy. And this law, though belated, should not be the only one and the terms should be tightened. The country needs to be protected, not the specific system in the country, but the country itself, which they are trying to simply destroy. Hitler at least spoke openly about who we are to him and what he would do to us in case of victory. And these "democratic" creatures, hiding behind their chatter and tolerance, will do the same to us as the Nazis did, only even worse.

[Cron]

Power is needed not so that the country has a paradise (you can please the liberals, at least turn inside out), power in the country is needed so that there is no hell (which you are trying to arrange here).

You don’t understand, when gas cost 70 kopecks, with the bloody Yanyka, it was the people's anger, and when it became ten more expensive, it was already the will of the people. Well this is to fantasies about how people were just driven to the edge

[lopvlad]

Quote: Stas157

Power is agonizing

your master is agonizing behind a big puddle and Russia is finally beginning to defend its state sovereignty at the legislative level, though, unfortunately, not as tough as in the United States.
By the way, it would not hurt to reduce the administrative responsibility from 16 to 14 years old. And then a citizen's passport must be obtained from the age of 14 and can be responsible for his actions only from the age of 16.

[musorg]

Don’t get into it, where .......... you shouldn’t meddle.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Stas157

Power is in agony. By going to extreme measures, it shows its helplessness and wild fear even in front of teenagers

I agree. For the foreseeable period, there was no more hypocritical, greedy, cowardly and vile government in Russia, by the way, Navalny is exactly the same, just torn from the trough.

[NDR-791]

Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?
List in which place you live badly.

[hhhhhhh]

Maybe the children broke away from tiktoks and learned to read.

[Svetlana]

His mother doesn't give him money for the last iPhone. That’s bad for him.

[Piramidon]

Quote: NDR-791

List in which place you live badly.

He is, apparently, one of those jerks who at Lyokha's gatherings scream about shitty life, holding mobile phones for 70tyr in his hands.

[NDR-791]

Guaranteed !!! For 45 minutes and did not answer ... nothing to say.

[210ox]

Well, life isn't getting any better. For example, ten years ago, I worked 40 hours a week. And enough for a family. Now I work 56 hours on average, which is the average salary for the country. in 40 kilo rubles.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Piramidon

He is, apparently, one of those jerks who at Lyokha's gatherings scream about shitty life, holding mobile phones for 70tyr in his hands.

[VORON538]

Maybe he doesn't like the ban on gay pride parades in Russia

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Stas157

Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?

that is, do you think it will get better with bulk?

[Svarog]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: Stas157

Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?

that is, do you think it will get better with bulk?

And what's wrong with the fact that he organized a smart vote and the thief from Edra began to move everywhere? What's wrong with his investigations .. These actions clearly do not harm the state, rather the opposite .. Let's imagine that there is no Navalny. What will change? Today's thieves will quietly and in a calm atmosphere have fun, and their entertainment leads to the fact that we have no opposition, that the standard of living is only falling, the population is rapidly declining ... and friends are getting richer ..

[Tank hard]

Quote: Svarog

What's wrong with organizing a smart vote?

And I thought that it was the specialists from the State Department who were organizing, including Lyokha. Well, svarog knows everything better about his own people.

[Svarog]

Quote: Tank Hard

And I thought that it was the specialists from the State Department who would organize

It’s over .. all the damned state departments .. we have produced billionaires, corruption and nepotism .. the state department, in your opinion, arranges the gifted children of officials for a high-ranking job .. the state department forces money to offshore .. How easy it is to find a "scapegoat" ..

[Tank hard]

Quote: Svarog

It is over .. all the damned state department .. billionaires we have spawned, corruption and nepotism .. the state department, in your opinion, suits the gifted children of officials for a high-ranking job .. the state department forces money to offshore .. How easy it is to find a "scapegoat"

They were directly in advisers to the Russian authorities in the post-Soviet period. Do you really know about this?

[Svarog]

They were directly in advisers to the Russian authorities in the post-Soviet period. Do you really know about this? laughing

I know one thing that nothing is being done for the good of the people, not then not now. And nothing is being done to strengthen the state ... just as they were dependent on the West in everything, they have remained.
So blaming the "enemy" for all the troubles is stupid ..

[Tank hard]

Quote: Svarog

I know one thing that nothing is done for the good of the people, not then not now

If you know, why do you support stupid protests, moreover with the participation of children?
I know. that there is no good for the people, they only pursue their own goals.
So why would I support it? to each his own.

[Svarog]

Quote: Tank Hard

If you know, why do you support stupid protests, moreover with the participation of children?
I know. that there is no good for the people, they only pursue their own goals.
So why would I support it? to each his own.

I do not support children's participation in protests. And I support the protests, because the authorities must know that the people are sick of their lies, that the country needs changes, that the characters from the crypt have already gotten everyone ... in general, the authorities must understand that the people are tired of enduring.

I know. that there is no good for the people, they only pursue their own goals.

Yes, the bourgeoisie pursue their own goals and when Navalny comes to power, most likely it will not be better. Since this is one side of the same coin. For this reason, I do not want to see him president. But the authorities must understand that it is impossible to ignore the opinion of the citizens of their country, that lawlessness, corruption, nepotism will not go unpunished, that the people did not tolerate and according to the Constitution is the only source of power .. For this reason, I support the protest. I hope everything is clear.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Svarog

And I support the protests,

Is it always more comfortable from the couch?

[Svarog]

Quote: Tank Hard

Quote: Svarog

And I support the protests,

Is it always more comfortable from the couch?

I would have brought Platoshkin to protest, supported him with action .. I don’t want to marry Navalny.

[VORON538]

And why not svarog himself at the meeting? Everything on the couch is revolutionizing, pseudo-communist forum!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Svarog

the country needs changes

went to the polls?
who did you vote for?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Svarog

I know one thing that nothing is being done for the good of the people, not then not now.

then this is when ?!

[Achilles]

Quote: Svarog

Today's thieves will quietly and in a calm atmosphere have fun, and their entertainment leads to the fact that we have no opposition, that the standard of living is only falling, the population is rapidly declining ... and friends are getting richer ..

Yes, only the whole point is that he himself is a thief and a corrupt official and he is financed from overseas. And his investigations are mostly empty

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Svarog

What's wrong with his investigations ..

for starters he is a swindler and a liar, then I am not interested

[Varyag71]

Personally, I am simply shocked how many slaves we have. It is simply incomprehensible to the mind how they protect those who simply live on in public, on the Soviet legacy.

[hhhhhhh]

those who are for Valenka are worn with Putin as with a written sack.

[Deniska999]

I agree, in many respects a media-ostentatious image.

[Doccor18]

Quote: Stas157

The confused main pain - Bulk. They rush around with him as with a written bag, spreading their phantom fears on the air, refuting by this that no one needs him.

Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?

Biden, Macron, Zelensky ........ Navalny are famous people ..
But what do they ... really ... decide, that is the question? Who is Navalny? Blogger ... That's all. And an ordinary (and albeit "unusual") blogger gathers the country for a rally ... Don't be funny. There are quite serious circles behind Navalny that have considerable resources, connections and plans ... The authorities must fight with them. And Navalny is just Navalny ...

[atalef]

Quote: Doccor18

Who is Navalny? Blogger ... That's all.

why only a blogger?

Quote: Doccor18

There are quite serious circles behind Navalny who have considerable resources, connections and plans.

if the authorities had facts about this, believe me, they would have voiced it long ago

Quote: Doccor18

And Navalny is just Navalny ...

he is not just, he is still a person.

[Mykhalych]

Quote: atalef

he is not just, he is still a person.

Navalny is just a criminal, stupid, boor, coward, traitor to the Motherland, an accomplice of foreign special services. Powders the brain of youngsters; I really hope that the zone will explain to him in a clear and varied manner how wrong he is.

[atalef]

Quote: Mykhalych

Navalny is just a criminal, stupid, boor, coward, traitor to the Motherland, an accomplice of foreign special services

and that's it? Why so little?
and also

[Mykhalych]

Quote: atalef

and that's it? Why so little?
and also

And (I repeat) everything will be explained to him in the zone. Lucidly.

[Genry]

Quote: atalef

he is not just, he is still a person.

It is a tool to be thrown away when functionality is lost.
And rightly so, that he was imprisoned, otherwise they will actually poison him and they will throw shit on all the media in order to move his "Tikhanovskaya".

[atalef]

Quote: Genry

It is a tool to be thrown away when functionality is lost.

yes you can't listen to - all the instruments and only Putin

[Genry]

Quote: atalef

yes you can't listen to - all the instruments and only Putin

And you are looking at the root. We are talking about the state and not any abstract reasoning.
Putin is bad for Westerners because he opposes them in the destruction of Russia. And Failure is used by them precisely to create a split and confrontation (divide and conquer).

[atalef]

Quote: Genry

Putin is bad for Westerners because he opposes them in destroying Russia

Why should someone destroy Russia 7 The hen that lays the golden eggs is not killed.

[Genry]

Quote: atalef

Why would someone destroy Russia? The hen that lays the golden eggs is not killed.

To also tear off the meat in pieces.

[lopvlad]

Quote: atalef

and only Putin

while Putin is moving in a direction to make Russia self-sufficient and sovereign and not a mat of the West controlled by a call from Washington to the people of Russia with him along the way.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Doccor18

There are quite serious circles behind Navalny who have considerable resources, connections and plans ...

Naturally - Soros, the CIA and MI6. Serious structures are quite enough for themselves ... And they have plans for Russia - hence one and a half thousand miles beyond the horizon ...

[atalef]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Naturally - Soros, the CIA and MI6

yes, but there are facts?
Why are they trying to plant him for some kind of forest, and not for cooperation with all these organizations? Or like they are silent because they feel sorry or proof - zero
?

[aszzz888]

atalef (alexander)
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Quote: Zoldat_A
Naturally - Soros, the CIA and MI6

yes, but there are facts?

Aren't you tired of flooding yet?

[atalef]

Quote: aszzz888

Aren't you tired of flooding yet?

why am I not surprised
Ie ascribe

Quote: Zoldat_A

Naturally - Soros, the CIA and MI6.

this is normal, but to the question --- there are facts

Quote: aszzz888

not tired of flooding yet?

So there are facts? If not, sit back and don't .. flood.

[VORON538]

Take care of the affairs of your country and don’t stick your nasty nose into the affairs of the Russian state, citizen of izgaIlya! The Palestinians want you there, but Russia doesn’t give you peace of mind, you wipe yourself off here. You didn’t notice that you aren’t welcome to VO for a long time ???

[aszzz888]

VORON538 (artem)
Today, 12: 29

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Take care of the affairs of your country and don’t stick your nasty nose into the affairs of the Russian state, citizen of izgaIlya! The Palestinians want you there, but Russia doesn’t give you peace of mind, you wipe yourself off here. You didn’t notice that you aren’t welcome to VO for a long time ???

And he doesn’t appear. He is obliged to pour dirt on us, because he was sheltered there, they gave him a piece of matzo, with the condition of working off the grub. This is where it defecates.

[atalef]

Quote: VORON538

Take care of the affairs of your country and do not stick your nasty nose into the affairs of the Russian state, citizen of exile!

do not distort the name of the state. my citizenship of Raska is no different from yours

Quote: VORON538

The Palestinians all want you there,

not us, but knam.

Quote: VORON538

if Russia does not give rest, you wipe yourself here.Have you noticed that you have not been welcomed at VO for a long time?

yes in general on a drum.

[Tank hard]

Quote: aszzz888

Aren't you tired of flooding yet?

So he goes from Israel for Russia sick. Worries about the Russian people.

[aszzz888]

Tank Hard (Daniel von Messer)
Today, 11: 22
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Quote: aszzz888
Aren't you tired of flooding yet?

So he goes from Israel for Russia sick. Worries about the Russian people. feel

From there. Rather, a fugitive from the USSR.
And how it experiences))! Without a bucket of slops, it will not calm down, because matzah is not given to fugitives for a gift, it must be worked out. Here it is here and pisses in pairs on Russia.

[atalef]

Quote: aszzz888

From there. Rather, a fugitive from the USSR.

no . I was leaving Russia

Quote: aszzz888

! It will not calm down without a bucket of slop

why are you? Russia is a great country, smart and worthy of the best people in life, you just have to get rid of the habit of licking in power.

Quote: aszzz888

because matzah is not given to fugitives for a gift, it must be worked out.

[atalef]

Quote: Tank Hard

So he goes from Israel for Russia sick. Worries about the Russian people.

Russians live in Russia

[Tank hard]

Quote: atalef

Russians live in Russia

and Russians no longer live. whether? or are you just dreaming about it? "Palestinian"...

[atalef]

Quote: Tank Hard

and Russians no longer live.

and the Russians are no longer Russians? Russians live in Israel and they are Israelis

Quote: Tank Hard

or are you just dreaming about it? "Palestinian"...

Palestinian? Why, I live in Israel. Palestine is different. Learn materiel.

[Tank hard]

Quote: atalef

Why, I live in Israel

and there was Palestine. and then, once and Israel.

Russian and they live in Israel and they are Israelis

who are the Makarevich and Shenderovich ??!
Russian

[atalef]

Quote: Tank Hard

and there was Palestine. and then again Israel.

was Kievan Rus. Krivichi and there are different olgovichi in the northwest region. and then again .. and Russia from sea to sea.

teach materiel. Israel was when neither Russia nor the more Russians (as a nation) were still in sight.

The first reliably dated news about Russia is contained in the Bertin annals and refers to by 839у

you are even younger than Islam , Christianity. and even more so Judaism

the Jewish people were formed as a result of the Exodus from Egypt and the adoption of the Law of the Torah at Mount Sinai. The Jews who came to Canaan were divided into 12 tribes ("tribes"), descending from the sons of Jacob-Israel. At the turn of the 2nd - 1st millennium BC. e.

[Tank hard]

Quote: atalef

was Kievan Rus. Krivichi and there are different olgovichi in the northwest region. and then again .. and Russia from sea to sea.

you can immediately see how you love Russians. and so hypocritically wrote here that you are worried. however. this attitude of the Israeli is not surprising. The usual thing.

Quote: atalef

teach materiel. Israel was when neither Russia nor the more Russians (as a nation) were still in sight.

yeah. lived in Egypt. was the case. We teach materiel.
[quote = atalefyou are even younger than Islam [/ quote]
Who are you talking about?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: atalef

Why are they trying to plant him for some kind of forest, and not for cooperation with all these organizations?

And we are imprisoned for exactly cooperation with these organizations (see article 276 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation "Espionage") and he does not cooperate - the figure is too small. He's just like a stray dog ​​- they feed him and use him ...

[atalef]

Quote: Zoldat_A

And here they are imprisoned for precisely cooperation with these organizations (see Article 276 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation "Espionage"), but he does not cooperate - the figure is too small.

you will deal with yourself
then the CIA and MI6. it does not cooperate

Quote: Zoldat_A

He's just like a stray dog ​​- they feed him and use him ...

but this does not fall under the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: atalef

you will deal with yourself
then the CIA and MI6. it does not cooperate

I clearly said, in Russian in white

Quote: Zoldat_A

He's just like a stray dog ​​- they feed him and use...

They don't cooperate with a stray dog. She is fed and then allowed on the skin for hats, for example. As an option - to kill the fighting dogs. It doesn't make it easier for a stray dog ​​...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: atalef

you will deal with yourself
then the CIA and MI6. it does not cooperate

Well this is what I was talking about

The US Embassy in Russia was aware of all plans for unauthorized actions

https://topwar.ru/179310-posolstvo-ssha-v-rossii-okazalos-v-kurse-vseh-planov-po-nesankcionirovannym-akcijam.html
Let's wait - the British Embassy will also blabber.

What kind of people? Where did they study? Well, they organized something nasty for someone (especially, illegally) - so be quiet, do not talk. No, you have to boast: "This my ears stick out there! "...

[Konstantin Shevchenko]

So with Navalny, no one is fighting. He must answer according to the laws of the Russian Federation like any of its citizens. But the foreign media annoyed me with Navalny, every time they shove me an advertisement for Navalny and with his castle, and so on. Bulk is not bulk, all crooks must be held accountable by law. In order to criticize one must be without logs in the eye. The correct decision is to prohibit schoolchildren and students from going to a rally that does not concern them. Let those who are paid for it and other sofa experts go to the rally. You can also participate as a conscientious and mature citizen.

[atalef]

Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko

So with Navalny, no one is fighting. He must answer according to the laws of the Russian Federation like any of its citizens.

Seriously, i.e. the only thief is Navalny?

Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko

Bulk is not bulk, all crooks must be held accountable by law.

but today - you have the only swindler - this is Navalny. By the way, you cannot speak out about others in any way - maybe the rally will be a priori not legal

Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko

The correct decision is to prohibit schoolchildren and students from going to a rally that does not concern them.

but if this rally is for Putin and EP?

[Konstantin Shevchenko]

Where I live, swindlers are responsible according to the law and it does not matter whether it is an official or just a citizen. I have not heard that Putin and United Russia called schoolchildren and students to a rally in their support. If the UK believes that children should not participate in illegal rallies, then no matter who calls on the United Russia, Putin or other figures, I agree with the UK. And now I have a question for you, what rights does Mr. Navalny protect schoolchildren and students? What requirements should the state decide for schoolchildren and students at this rally?

[atalef]

Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko

Where I live, crooks are responsible according to the law and it does not matter whether an official or just a citizen.

where are you living ?

Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko

And now I have a question for you, what rights does Mr. Navalny protect schoolchildren and students?

it doesn't matter. a person has the right to go to rallies according to his own convictions, without communication. protect it or not.
He wants to and goes. Who can forbid him 7 This is a free right of any person.

[Konstantin Shevchenko]

I live in Russia outside the Moscow Ring Road

[Tank hard]

Quote: atalef

but today - your only swindler is Navalny

And you?

[aszzz888]

Tank Hard (Daniel von Messer)
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but today - your only swindler is Navalny

And you?

It will not answer such uncomfortable questions for him. Because they have more of our thief. They never held anything heavier than a spoon. Knocking on the keyboard does not count.

[Sergey Kulikov_3]

It seems that the Navalny case is one of the heaps of cases that are going on in the courts, but you only see him, maybe you should change the news selection?

[Svarog]

Quote: Doccor18

Navalny has quite serious circles that have considerable resources, connections and plans.

I also tend to think so. Moreover, these circles live in the Kremlin.
Only now the question arises .. why haven't they been dealt with yet?

[Tank hard]

Quote: Svarog

I also tend to think so. Moreover, these circles live in the Kremlin.

Svarog seems to know everything ...

Quote: Svarog

Only now the question arises .. why haven't they been dealt with yet?

But no, it turns out not everything ...

[Dart2027]

Quote: Stas157

You answer me

is it good when children get involved in riots?

[Egoza]

Quote: Dart2027

is it good when children get involved in riots?

This is mean! But along with those who "involve", parents must also be responsible! To collect a fine that way ... dtsat thousand, so they would immediately begin to explain to the children that attending such rallies is fraught with danger!

[atalef]

Quote: Egoza

This is mean! But along with those who "involve", parents must also be responsible! To collect a fine that way ... dtsat thousand, so they would immediately begin to explain to the children that attending such rallies is fraught with danger!

when your granddaughter goes with her parents to a rally about the demolition of a playground (the territory of which was given for the construction of some elite house) - rightly let them all be fined a thousand so ... dtsat.

Quote: Egoza

would immediately begin to explain to the children that attending such rallies is fraught!

sure, you have to go to the right rallies

[lopvlad]

Quote: atalef

when your granddaughter will go with her parents to a rally about the demolition of the playground

It does not seem to you that a rally on social issues and a political rally are completely different things. And it is no coincidence that the right to express your political opinion is given along with full responsibility before the law, namely, coming of age (18 or 21 in the West).

[atalef]

Quote: lopvlad

Don't you think that a meeting on social issues and a political meeting are completely different things.

no, it does not seem that a citizen has the right to speak out on any range of issues, and not only on those convenient for the authorities. My opinion is my right and no one can forbid me to express it.

Quote: lopvlad

And it is no coincidence that the right to express one's political opinion is given together with full responsibility before the law, namely, coming of age (18 or 21 in the West).

nothing like that, in the demonstrations (in the west as you say) everyone has the right to participate.
by the way. for EP children take part - and that's all ok?
Some kind of selection is not clear.

[Sergey Kulikov_3]

So the daughter will lead the parents or the parents will drag the daughter to an illegal rally?

[Dart2027]

Quote: Egoza

But along with those who "involve", parents must also be responsible!

Absolutely right.

[atalef]

Quote: Dart2027

Quote: Stas157

You answer me

is it good when children get involved in riots?

yes, but the conversation is not about, the conversation about legal or illegal rallies. Do you have all * not legal * rallies accompanied by riots?

[Dart2027]

Quote: atalef

yes, but the conversation is not about that

Exactly about that. Involving children in such a mean thing.

Quote: atalef

You have all * not legal * rallies accompanied by riots

And why are they still collected?

[atalef]

Quote: Dart2027

Exactly about that. Involving children in such a mean thing.

but in this

[Dart2027]

Quote: atalef

but in this

There is no chance of becoming a sacred victim on the line.
Although, in itself it is significant that those who are outraged by the "brutality of the regime" cannot cite as an example anything other than lessons in school, that is, they themselves confirm that "this power" does not hide behind children.

[atalef]

Quote: Dart2027

Exactly about that. Involving children in such a mean thing.

Do you attribute this to the fate of children in rallies for Putin?

Quote: Dart2027

And why are they still collected?

Well, in general, it is exactly for the same, for which it is legal. They are all the same rallies, just some authorities allow, and others do not.

[Dart2027]

Quote: atalef

and the participation of children in rallies for Putin

In any. But I don’t remember that children were massively gathered there, or will you refer to school rulers?

Quote: Dart2027

There is no chance of becoming a sacred victim on the line.
Although, in itself it is significant that those who are outraged by the "brutality of the regime" cannot cite as an example anything other than lessons in school, that is, they themselves confirm that "this power" does not hide behind children.

Quote: atalef

Well, in general, it is exactly for the same, for which it is legal. Rallies they are all the same

Yeah, that's just for some reason they climb on some of the skins to start a fight with the police.

[Tank hard]

Quote: atalef

yes, but the conversation is not about, the conversation about legal or illegal rallies. Do you have all * not legal * rallies accompanied by riots?

And you, in Israel?

[aszzz888]

Tank Hard (Daniel von Messer)
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yes, but the conversation is not about, the conversation about legal or illegal rallies. Do you have all * not legal * rallies accompanied by riots?

And you, in Israel?

In Israel, more and more machine guns are trying to target the demonstrators. In the best case, the ARMY and the policy will shoot back with rubber bands.

[atalef]

Quote: aszzz888

In Israel, more and more machine guns are trying to target the demonstrators. In the best case, the ARMY and the policy will shoot back with rubber bands.

can you give an example?
Where in Israel have demonstrations been dispersed by firearms?

[aszzz888]

atalef (alexander)
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In Israel, more and more machine guns are trying to target the demonstrators. In the best case, the ARMY and the policy will shoot back with rubber bands.

can you give an example?
Where in Israel were the demonstrations dispersed by firearms? [

Дуchase her!

Clashes on the Israeli border with the Gaza Strip (... en.wikipedia.org ›wiki› Clashes_ on the_ border _...

"Bloody day in years": dead people are buried in Gaza ...

etc.

[Arpad]

Quote: aszzz888

Drive her fool!

Quote: aszzz888

Clashes on the Israeli border with the Gaza Strip (... en.wikipedia.org ›wiki› Clashes_ on_ the_ border_

do not drive the fool - Gaza is not Israel.

[aszzz888]

Arpad (Alexander)
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Quote: aszzz888
Drive her fool!

Quote: aszzz888
Clashes on the Israeli border with the Gaza Strip (... en.wikipedia.org ›wiki› Clashes_ on_ the_ border_

do not drive the fool - Gaza is not Israel.

you read at a discount, then you will be clever.

[VORON538]

They usually answer such questions: "this is something else"

[aszzz888]

VORON538 (artem)
Today, 12: 33

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They usually answer such questions: "this is the second" lol

Oh yes, very touchy!

[atalef]

Quote: Tank Hard

And you, in Israel?

and we practically do not have illegal shopping malls to obtain permission for a rally, in general, it is not even required, the police are notified of the rally, and to ban the police, oh what important arguments are needed, and the refusal will immediately lead to court, where the police will immediately lose it - therefore notifies the police. permission is given automatically.

[Tank hard]

Quote: atalef

and we practically do not have illegal shopping malls to obtain permission for a rally, in general, it is not even required, the police are notified of the rally, and to ban the police, oh what important arguments are needed, and the refusal will immediately lead to court, where the police will immediately lose it - therefore notifies the police. permission is given automatically.

how good it is in your country, but pulls you to carry "democracy" in your understanding to other countries. apparently from love for other nations. better fight with Iran, and that time is running out.

[Svarog]

Quote: Dart2027

Quote: Stas157

You answer me

is it good when children get involved in riots?

It is unacceptable. What is there to answer. Not even something that is not permissible, but criminal.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Svarog

It is unacceptable. What is there to answer. Not even something that is not permissible, but criminal.

You, svarog, decide whether you are for the regime or against it? And then some kind of quick change of shoes in a jump. are you training?

[Svarog]

Quote: Tank Hard

Quote: Svarog

It is unacceptable. What is there to answer. Not even something that is not permissible, but criminal.

You, svarog, decide whether you are for the regime or against it? And then some kind of quick change of shoes in a jump. are you training?

Where did you see the changing shoes? You have a strange perception of incoming information .. Yes, I do not support the involvement of children in protests .. I am not a supporter of Navalny, but I support his investigations and protests. It's simple.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Svarog

Where did you see the changing shoes?

And what's that??:

Quote: Svarog

Yes I do not support attraction to children's protests.

Quote: Svarog

I'm not a supporter of Navalny,

And right there:

Quote: Svarog

but his investigations and I support protests.

Quote: Svarog

It's simple.

There is no one without the other.

[lopvlad]

Quote: Svarog

Yes, I do not support the involvement of children in protest actions .. I am not a supporter of Navalny, but I support his investigations and protests.

it is the same as if you were against prostitution but did not stop using the services of prostitutes.

[Svarog]

Quote: lopvlad

it is the same as if you were against prostitution but did not stop using the services of prostitutes.

Silly analogy .. Are you against alcohol? But you probably do, although you know that it is harmful ..

[lopvlad]

Quote: Svarog

Are you against alcohol?

how can I be against it if I use it. As for harm, any best medicine, if you do not follow the dosage, starts to do harm.

[Svarog]

Quote: Stas157

Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?

Stas, she would have become calmer .. for them. And here you have to strain ..

[g1v2]

Navalny is not a problem. If he is not, they will promote another clown. Tikhanovskaya or Guaido - it doesn't matter. The problem is those huge media resources that are being thrown into the destruction of our country. I was not interested in the bulk, but under each video I watched, they immediately put him next and everywhere they pop up recommendations on his video. That is, it is mega-difficult not to look through it - it is shoved under everyone's nose. It is clear that an adult adequate person will only laugh at his "investigations", but it is not in vain that he works for children. They don't have critical thinking, but they have youthful nihilism. And the desire for action. And in a few years they will be able to vote. Now the situation is only swinging - everything is preparing for the Duma elections, and most importantly for the year 24. You can, of course, not react to an obvious enemy, but our country has already been broken to the ground 2 times - in 17 and 91 years. We reached the 1913 level only 10 years after the end of civilian life, the 90 level also 10 years after the end of the civil war of the 90s. We were underestimated twice - for the third time our country will not be given a chance.

[raw174]

Quote: Stas157

Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?

Absolutely nothing would have changed. But I believe that people who call the masses for riots should be held accountable, and the involvement of children and adolescents is a circumstance aggravating the guilt. And yes, I think that the calls for a rally - there are calls for riots, since such rallies are always attended by "charged" people provoking clashes with the security forces.

[Graz]

a foreign puppet dancing under the direction of foreign intelligence services is one of the worst options that can happen if he really comes to power
here I say directly physical elimination is 100% justified

[figwam]

Quote: Stas157

The main pain of the confused is Navalny.

This is your headache, most of them are heard, our army.

[Flooding]

Quote: Stas157

Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?

Stupid question.
There would be another bulk.

[Hagen]

Quote: Stas157

Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?

It's not about the last name. The point is in those instances that finance the activities of the bulk, forming its ultimate goal. And these instances are over the hill. They officially announce how much money they want to spend on the collapse of unwanted states through such instruments as bulk and the like. Cut off these flows of "green", liquidate bulk and similar NGOs - this is what should be done in the near future by the state, if it does not want new "swamp". And yes, in these "swamp" ones the "onizhedeti" card will be played under one or another sauce. You have to understand that in 8 months we will have elections to the State Duma. So in the spring and summer we must wait for the activation of "manure fans" on all possible resources, not excluding this one. An unprecedented excitement and aggressive activity in the fight for crumbs from the State Department table awaits the anti-Kremlin fraternity. It was not for nothing that last year there were invitations to cooperation for 80 rubles on the website of the US Embassy for "specialists" in "brechology on the Internet." Why crumbs? Because the State Department's budget for traitors fell from $ 000 million in 700 to $ 2019 million in 290 ... which is somewhat encouraging. Scum, too, do not like to be substituted for cheap.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Stas157

Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?

Of course better, at least it wouldn't stink. And it is not any pain at all, even for a one-time diarrhea does not pull.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Stas157

The confused main pain - Bulk. They rush around with him as with a written bag, spreading their phantom fears on the air, refuting by this that no one needs him.

Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?

I, too, do not understand that this Navalny was given to them. He is a man without power, he has no armies and tanks, he just shows people how our elite steals

[VORON538]

I’ll say more simply, there would be no Putin, you would have invented him to blame for your problems and failures!

[sniperino]

Quote: Stas157

The main pain of the confused is Navalny. They rush around with him as if with a written bag, spreading their phantom fears on the air, refuting by this that no one needs him.

Just an example of political poetic blasphemy. You can write praise on it, slightly correcting punctuation marks

The anti-travelers have the Great Sun of life - Navalny. They rush about with him as with soaked cowards, spreading their wet dreams on the air, confirming by this that he is the wisest politician and the Man, without whom life loses value.

[NF68]

Quote: Stas157

The confused main pain - Bulk. They rush around with him as with a written bag, spreading their phantom fears on the air, refuting by this that no one needs him.

Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?

Such clowns are also sometimes needed.

[KONST.RU]

Naivety! In a German patient, an asterisk fell on the shoulder strap. Everything is in the best traditions of counterintelligence of the USSR (RF). Control: opposition-leader-financial flows. It is foolish not to understand this. If it weren't there, it would be different. It's simple. We stand on that.

[Sofa expert]

There is no democracy there for a long time .. Only the dictatorship of the dem party and their entourage

[Rostov Papa]

Read the article on Antifashist "Youngsters' revolt" A. Yablokov. I recommend.http: //antifashist.com/item/bunt-maloletok.html

[sniperino]

Liked:

We have the "residence of Yanukovych", you have "Putin's palace". The scenario is simple, like a corner of a house ... "They surround themselves with unthinkable luxury there, and we are forced to eat frozen potatoes." The theme worked great in Ukraine.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

Let him be punished for incitement to riot.

Parting words before the rally ...

[Crowe]

The law is correct. Here I absolutely agree.

[atalef]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

Let him be punished for incitement to riot.

Parting words before the rally ...

Are you talking only about illegal rallies?
Well, as I understand it, any rally in your country can be declared illegal. So it is possible for legitimate ones (this is for Putin and United Russia). And not legal ones - it is impossible.
those. in the first case, the child's psyche does not suffer and he is fully capable, and in the second case - no. Just remember, not * legal * rallies can be not only for Navalny and against the increase in utility tariffs.
I don't understand, in our country a single picket is a priori not considered illegal and does not require permission from any authorities at all, any other rally (with a large number of people) only requires registration with the police and we need monstrously good reasons not to be allowed, yes the pandemic and the quarantine in which we sit tightly does not prohibit participation in demonstrations. A person has every right to express his opinion - this is the basic provision of individual freedom and minors have the same right to participate in this. Violate public order, commit illegal actions - approx. arrest these, but peaceful demonstration, picket with placards? How should the authorities be afraid of their citizens in order to restrict them in their basic right - freedom of speech.
And you applaud ... Well done - tomorrow, or rather today, you are turning yourself into a silent herd walking only in the direction necessary for the authorities and opening your mouth only to glorify it.
And then cry - why we have it. Look at yourself and you will understand.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: atalef

Well, as I understand it any rally can be declared illegal for you... So it is possible for legitimate ones (this is for Putin and United Russia). And not legal ones - it is impossible.
those. in the first case, the child's psyche does not suffer and he is fully capable, and in the second case - no.

A bit wrong. Read our laws carefully, Alexander. Any meeting with us can be made LEGAL, if you submit an application in advance, indicate in it the organizers, place, time, duration of the mass event and the planned number of participants.

And how, interestingly, the Israeli authorities and power structures will behave if someone through the Internet spontaneously organizes a crowd in the center of Tel Aviv in support of Palestine with calls to destroy the state of Israel? How your "most democratic in the world" friends react - we watched the entire end of the past and the beginning of this year. And you? Let the enemies of the state do what they want democratically.

My personal opinion is that I have always considered Jews to be smart people and therefore, I think, your authorities would have acted adequately - they would have dispersed such a "meeting" to hell.

[dauria]

your authorities would have acted adequately - they would have dispersed such a "meeting" to hell.

Yes, everything is fine with the Jews. During the spring quarantine of the Orthodox in jail, the door of the synagogue was welded tightly. Onlookers - a receipt with a fine. This is Atalef (Alexander) so, according to old memory, he is fighting for freedom in the USSR. I missed ...

[atalef]

Quote: dauria

Yes, everything is fine with the Jews. During the spring quarantine of the Orthodox in jail, the door of the synagogue was welded tightly. Onlookers - a receipt with a fine.

no fairy tales, please.
Do not confuse pliz, prayer and demonstration.
Demonstrations - allowed (in the open air with respect to distances) prayers - no more than 10 people indoors.
The devil is in the details - half-truths are worse than lies.

Code of Conduct During Coronavirus - Tough General Quarantine
Movement
Allowed
move away from the house at a distance of up to 1 kilometer. Exceptions to allow greater distance from home:

For vaccination
To purchase medicines, food and essential goods, as well as to receive vital services
For playing sports alone or with people living in the same house for an unlimited distance (but not getting to the place of sports by car)
To travel to places where work is permitted - - for employees, job seekers and soldiers
To arrive at a permitted place of work
To arrive at an educational institution whose work is permitted
For medical treatment, life-saving social assistance, treatment with "alternative medicine" or for blood donation
To help people who are going through difficulties or are in a difficult situation
To participate in a funeral, wedding, Bar Mitzvah, Bat Mitzvah, circumcision rite or a similar religious ceremony in other religions (subject to the established limit on the number of those present) of a relative - grandparents, parents, spouses and their parents, children, grandchildren, brothers or sisters and their children, uncles or aunts, or the participation in a wedding of the person conducting the wedding ceremony and one witness
For demonstration, trial, or to arrive in the Knesset
To participate in the demo
To participate in the trial
To come to the Knesset
For the transfer of minor children between divorced parents
To transfer minors under the supervision of adults, in cases where the parent raising them is forced to leave for the purpose of vital necessity
To provide the necessary care for animals
Women - for immersion in mikveh tahara
To move from one permanent place of residence to another, including moving from a place of residence to a place of stay in quarantine
To change your place of residence
For arrival at the airport for departure abroad, no more than 8 hours before the departure time, under certain conditions>
Departure of people with disabilities living in social protection institutions to visit relatives of the first degree of kinship, and visiting relatives in their institutions
A person with disabilities who, due to their disability, is forced to go out into the public space at a greater distance than one kilometer from the place of residence, together with one accompanying person
To get to the place of stay in quarantine
To vote in primary elections (primaries) or to prepare parties for elections.
It is forbidden to leave the house for the purpose of staying in another person's house (except for one of the permitted reasons, such as helping a person experiencing difficulties)

[aszzz888]

dauria (Alexey)
Today, 09: 33

+5
your authorities would have acted adequately - they would have dispersed such a "meeting" to hell.


Yes, everything is fine with the Jews. During the spring quarantine of the Orthodox in jail, the door of the synagogue was welded tightly. Onlookers - a receipt with a fine. This is Atalef (Alexander) so, according to old memory, he is fighting for freedom in the USSR. laughing I missed you....

That is why he pours slop on Russia, works out matzo.

[atalef]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Read our laws carefully, Alexander. Any meeting with us can be made LEGAL,

if it suits the authorities. Dial in Google - a rally about the increase in housing and communal services tariffs was banned - Google will give 65000 results, even if 90% is garbage. don't tell me about legality

Quote: Zoldat_A

And how, interestingly, the Israeli authorities and power structures will behave if someone through the Internet spontaneously organizes a crowd in the center of Tel Aviv in support of Palestine with calls to destroy the state of Israel?

Absolutely calm and such demonstrations take place regularly. we have enough extreme left-wing organizations, they always pass under the protection of the police, patriotic citizens try to stuff the demonstrators in the muzzles

Quote: Zoldat_A

How your "most democratic in the world" friends react - we watched the entire end of the past and the beginning of this year

??

Quote: Zoldat_A

... And you? Let the enemies of the state do what they want democratically.

demonstrations - please, a person has the right to freedom of speech and assembly. yes, if this does not suit the authorities

Quote: Zoldat_A

My personal opinion is that I have always considered Jews to be smart people and therefore, I think, your authorities would have acted adequately - they would have dispersed such a "meeting" to hell.

Well, apparently not all of us are * smart *. but we somehow live with it and the feeling of freedom - it is correct.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: atalef

Quote: Zoldat_A

Read our laws carefully, Alexander. Any meeting with us can be made LEGAL,

if it suits the authorities. Dial in Google - a rally about the increase in housing and communal services tariffs was banned - Google will give 65000 results, even if 90% is garbage. don't tell me about legality

You read about our rallies in Google, how they are prohibited. But I can't drive up to my office - they block traffic (it's good that a 10-minute walk is almost the only paid parking lot in the entire Central District of the city). And about housing and communal services, people calmly resented themselves somewhere last spring - I looked out of the office window. And no one forbade or dispersed anyone, did not push them into police vehicles and gassed them. And the 6500 remaining Google results (10%) are just the "work" of various "Echoes", "Rains" and Oval. There is an informational lead (5% of the truth) - the rest can be thought up (95% of lies). Everything is absolutely in the style of our liberals, according to the precepts of Goebbels' grandfather.

[atalef]

Quote: Zoldat_A

You read about our rallies in Google, how they are prohibited.

Ie you say that there are no rallies that prohibit 7 then what is the message of the article? ie rallies are allowed, but the people are stupidly trying to organize them illegally?

Quote: Zoldat_A

... And the 6500 remaining Google results (10%) are just the "work" of various "Echoes", "Rains" and Oval.

does not play a role, they also have the right to their opinion and its voice - all this is included in the general concept - individual freedom.

Quote: Zoldat_A

... There is an informational guide (5% of the truth) - the rest can be thought up (95% of lies).

that is, the truth is the prerogative of the authorities?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: atalef

Ie you say that there are no rallies that prohibit 7 then what is the message of the article? ie rallies are allowed, but the people are stupidly trying to organize them illegally?

I said a lot about this above, I don't want to repeat myself. In short - if you officially issue a permit - there will be no provocation. They came, shouted, dispersed. And Oval EXACTLY needs provocation. So that clubs, gas, paddy wagons, "regime atrocities", "inhuman dictator Putin". Yes, even against the "children". Therefore, they DELIVEREDLY did not issue permits, because the target audience is shkolota.

[AUL]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Read our laws carefully, Alexander. Any rally with us can be made LEGAL, if you submit an application in advance, indicate the organizers, place, time, duration of the mass event and the planned number of participants in it.

Then it is not clear how we can have illegal rallies! Are the organizers so stupid that they don't submit applications in advance? Or are they just masochists?
Or maybe just any official in the mayor's office, spitting on the Constitution, can declare any rally illegal?
By the way, does the constitution contain restrictions on participation in meetings by age?

[AUL]

Quote: AUL

Then it is not clear how we can have illegal rallies!

Minuses were instructed, but not a single answer to the question!

[Zoldat_A]

I didn't put a minus, but the answer is here.

Quote: AUL

Then it is not clear how we can have illegal rallies! Are the organizers so stupid that they don't submit applications in advance? Or are they just masochists?

And why Oval (well, it is difficult for him himself now - so oval) not apply? Why in appeals to go to a rally emphasizedthat rally unauthorized? But because such a rally will be knowingly dispersed, and the bulk will earn a couple of trump cards for their owners in the form of pictures and "vidos" about how "the terrible Putin strangles the voice of the people" and "beats up children."

Quote: AUL

By the way, does the constitution contain restrictions on participation in meetings by age?

The procedure for holding rallies is determined not by the Constitution, but by the Federal Law "On Assemblies, Rallies, Demonstrations, Processions and Picketing" of June 19.06.2004, 54 N XNUMX-FZ. Yes, there is no mention of age. But the owners of Oval are much more pleased when the police (ugh, the police!) Disperse the "children" than healthy adult men. Could Oval - he would have brought legless disabled people - also a good picture for "free media" will be. But, firstly, there are much less of them than schoolchildren. And secondly, they are not as passionate as the little stupid schoolchildren who do not understand anything except social networks. So if only to hang out and make "vidos" - and then do not care - for whom and for what.

So the bulk of the Soros are not masochists. It is they who make young schoolchildren sacred sacrifices.

[paul3390]

not the Constitution, but the Federal Law "On Meetings, Rallies, Demonstrations, Processions and Picketing" of June 19.06.2004, 54 N XNUMX-FZ.

This means that the law violates the Constitution. For it is primary in relation to any further lawmaking, and it cannot rule, supplement or interpret it as you like ..

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: paul3390

This means that the law violates the Constitution. For it is primary in relation to any further lawmaking, and it cannot rule, supplement or interpret it as you like ..

It has been said -

Quote: Zoldat_A

there is no mention of age.

What is the discrepancy?

[AUL]

Quote: Zoldat_A

I didn't put a minus, but the answer is here.

In fact, I asked the question without being tied to the organizers of the rally, but, so to speak, "on a global scale." And you tie everything to Navalny.
And further. Do you have data (share pliz) that for these rallies not submitted applications for holding? It is more likely that some small clerk in the mayor's office (the big one will not substitute) imposed a refusal under a fake pretext, so the meeting became unauthorized.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: AUL

And further. Do you have data (share pliz) that no applications were submitted for these rallies?

You may not believe me. Do you believe yours, "Echo of Moscow"?

Several hundred people came to the rally in support of Navalny in Kirov.
[...] some sources state that about 300 people came to the mayor's office, mostly young people.
Police cars and paddy wagons appeared at the mayor's office long before the start of the action, although it was not announced anywhere, and people said that they would just go out for a walk. The police warned the gathered residents of Kirov that the event was not sanctioned... The arrests have not yet been reported. https://echokirova.ru/news/nekolko-desyatkov-chelovek-prishli-na-aktsiyu-v-podderzhku-navalnogo-v-kirove?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&nw=1611409209000

Yesterday I read that security officials in Samara, Voronezh, Novosibirsk, and many other places published warnings that the rally was unauthorized.

Well, in fact, the oval's got their way - they drove the youngsters into the streets, and now they raise the stench all over the world. And how the maidan horses are trying to help them .... Pay attention - who sweeps the snowstorm - naturally, not the newspaper Pravda. Naturally, "Rain".

In Moscow, half an hour before the start of a rally in support of opposition leader Alexei Navalny, Red Square was closed on January 23. The security forces began mass detentions of people.
The TV channel Dozhd reports this.
At about 11:30 Kiev time, arrests began in the center of Moscow. The siloviki took away those who raised the posters ..
After that, the police began to detain people who were just sitting on benches in the area of ​​Pushkin Square.
Correspondents working in the center of Moscow note that "people are being grabbed indiscriminately." In particular, eyewitnesses filmed the child's gross detention.

In short, everything, pulling up trousers on the go, we flee from this country with its dictatorship. Or, as an option, a machine gun in hand and to storm the Kremlin for freedom and democracy? The West will be happy - the grants have been worked out ...
And for dessert, one more "truth-seekers" who have proven themselves where possible and where not - the "most truthful of the truthful" Medusa -

Pushkinskaya Square, where the Freedom Navalny protest rally is to begin at 13:00, has been closed since the evening of January 22. On the morning of January 23, paving slabs began to be laid on the square, Meduza reports.
Also the correspondent of the publication noticed armored vehicles on the approaches to Moscow. The column moved in the morning along the Gorkovskoye highway towards the capital.

.
.
A premonition of a civil war? Our liberals were not in a hurry to declare Russia 23.01.2021/11.09.1973/XNUMX Chile XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX ??? .
Look at the stinking company - "Echo", "Rain", "Medusa", UkroSMI ... Now the BBC with CNN will catch up ... Can a sane person end up in such an information dump?

[paul3390]

Any rally with us can be made LEGAL, if you submit an application in advance, indicate the organizers, place, time, duration of the mass event and the planned number of participants in it.

Tell me - have you yourself ever tried to organize a rally? Well, of course - not Zaputin? I just took part in such an event, and I know very well how far what you wrote is far from reality ..

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: paul3390

Tell me - have you yourself ever tried to organize a rally? Well, of course - not Zaputin?

And I have no time to organize rallies and monkey with placards. I need to work. The work and, therefore, the earnings of several hundred people depend on me. And if I organize rallies instead of work, they will arrange "impeachment" myself.

[paul3390]

Well, the stump is clear - you are one hard worker and a hard worker, all the rest are idle bums and agents of the State Department on the maintenance ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: paul3390

Well, the stump is clear - you are just a hard worker and a hard worker

Not every week, but sometimes you have to work 7 days a week and 15-16 hours is not uncommon. Especially in the study, I made a small room with a sofa and a shower - sometimes I stay overnight.
I'm not the creepiest hard worker, but the responsibility for several hundred families is crushing. This is good for a bricklayer - he worked his shift, worked out the solution, threw in the cubes of the masonry and calmly went home. Unfortunately, this does not work for me. Responsibility, you know ... He is responsible only for his masonry, and I am for him and hundreds of people like him.

[paul3390]

Yes, I also have enough work to do, because somehow it is necessary to acquire daily bread .. And I would also like butter for him. And there are subordinates.

But - I do not think that this frees me as a citizen and communist from responsibility for the fate of the country and its future. Therefore, you have to find time. Otherwise, this new crap will continue with our children, and grandchildren will turn into serfs.

We at one time foolishly pissed away the Soviet power - we should return it. There is nothing to pass on to the descendants .. In the end - at one time I, like most of those present here - vowed to defend the Soviet Union to the last drop of blood .. And oaths - breaking is very bad, especially massively .. It has a lot of bad effects on karma .. What we see ..

I did not swear to the Russian Federation and to Putin personally, and I am not obliged to them. Everything that I received for free was given to me by my Motherland, the Soviet Union. The bourgeoisie - they just pull money off me ..

[Sergey Kulikov_3]

Judging by the anecdotes next to the protesters in Israel, shopping arcades with the sale of weapons and ammunition would open, not anything personal, just a business :)

[raw174]

Quote: atalef

Well, as I understand it, any rally in your country can be declared illegal.

When applications for rallies are submitted in advance, they are almost always allowed, including Navalny, who was allowed to hold rallies, more than once. So don't write nonsense!

[Anatoly 288]

Is everything good in Israel, is everything calm? Are all problems solved? Isa got bored and decided to have some fun?

[aszzz888]

Anatoly 288 (Anatoly)
Today, 10: 24

+3
Is everything good in Israel, is everything calm? Are all problems solved? Iza got bored and he decided to have some fun?

It fulfills the matzah, because they will ask him for the hours worked. Therefore it is banished.

[aszzz888]

atalef (alexander)
Today, 09: 07
NEW you applaud laughing. Well done - tomorrow, or rather today, you turn yourself into a silent herd walking only in the direction necessary for the authorities and opening your mouth only to glorify it.
.

If you were going from here, it is still gathered here to teach! In your Jewess, try to strain !!!

[Hagen]

Quote: atalef

How should the authorities be afraid of their citizens in order to restrict them in their basic right - freedom of speech.

What kind of power do you mean?

Quote: atalef

So you can use legal ones (this is for Putin and EP)

Come on, an invitation to a rally for Putin - in the studio ..... You, who fled over the hill, what ..... worried about us? We will worry about ourselves, in terms of ...

Quote: atalef

in our country, a single picket is a priori not considered illegal and does not require permission from any authorities at all, any other rally (with a large number of people) - only registration with the police and we need monstrously good reasons not to be allowed

It would be reasonable for you to go to your place, and we, somehow, will find ways to express our thoughts both on housing and communal services and on other issues.

[aszzz888]

Hagen (Hagen)
Today, 11: 05
NEW ... You, who escaped over the hill, what ... worried about us? We will worry about ourselves, in terms of ...

So for his happiness to pour on Russia (as well as for more material values ​​- matzo, because the owner will ask him).

[Tank hard]

Quote: atalef

And then cry - why we have it. Look at yourself and you will understand

And what do you care about Russia?

[sniperino]

Quote: atalef

Well, as I understand it, any rally in your country can be declared illegal.

Who would doubt that you will understand it somehow differently. Any liberal fascist and Bandera member will pat you on the head for this (although the latter will then wipe his hand on his dirty trousers)

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Parting words before the rally ...

[paul3390]

One might just as well ask - why do the children of our elite not live and study in Russia? Are they all against Putin?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: paul3390

One might just as well ask - why do the children of our elite not live and study in Russia?

How cleverly he twisted

[paul3390]

Yah? That is - you say that everything is wrong and I lied? It's just that your point of view is strikingly one-sided and biased - if you accuse one side of something, then how can you not notice exactly the same in the other?

[lopvlad]

Quote: paul3390

why don't the children of our elite live

the elite who have already moved to Russia.

[paul3390]

No. They only work here on a rotational basis. Their place of residence is completely different.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: lopvlad

the elite who have already moved to Russia.

Shipbuilder Lizanka Peskova already mulberry, PR ships? Wo, byada ...

[Sotskiy]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

Put Navalny on a bottle for 10 years. Let him be punished for incitement to riot.

About how!
But what about democracy, free expression of the will of citizens and the right to rallies?
Strange, in the "totalitarian scoop" of the late 80s, early 90s, this was welcomed, but under the "freedom and democracy" of the 2000s - a criminal article? How so, but what about the precepts of the fighter against the "regime" Navalny 90s, our unforgettable BN Yeltsin, to whom the current government erects monuments?
Or then there were "correct" juvenile protestors, and now they have deteriorated?

[Gato]

Put Navalny on a bottle for 10 years.

Will it definitely be a punishment for him?

[The popuas]

And what about the youth army then? or rallies and processions on May 1 ... I do not care about Navalny ... but then there is a double-edged sword

[Temples]

It's time.

[VORON538]

It's high time. Let the organizers communicate with the aueshniks in prison! There is no point in using children as cannon fodder to achieve their dubious goals! Here the same bulkhead protects, hid, his daughter is studying abroad, like some of those whom he is discussing. And that his children are not visible at his "rallies", he is hiding behind strangers.

[Alexander Romanov]

They are already there. Photo from Komsomolsk on Mure, today I passed the square, everyone is sitting warm in the Kamaz of the Russian Guard

[Deck]

You shouldn't use children as cannon fodder to achieve your dubious goals!

I wonder what you see in the picture ?:

[Narak-zempo]

This is different.
The lesson of patriotic education.
Everyone is sitting quietly, no one wears posters, does not throw stones, "P-ting - the thief does not shout."

[Deck]

Cobblestones are not thrown, because they cannot lift.

[Narak-zempo]

I do not see any protests or riots in these photos.
So it's not the right place.

[Deck]

Is protest and disorder one and the same? Over there today in Khabarovsk the people danced around the trees and sang songs. Something did not prevent our glorious guardsmen from celebrating a dozen or so singing citizens. For nefig.

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: Deck

Is protest and disorder one and the same? Over there today in Khabarovsk the people danced around the trees and sang songs. Something did not prevent our glorious guardsmen from celebrating a dozen or so singing citizens. For nefig.

Do you see a lot of order in opposing the government in support of the bandit and murderer Furgal?

[Deck]

You got it all mixed up: today, not "in support of the bandit and killer Furgal," but, on the contrary, a scoundrel, pedophile, Russophobe and just a CIA agent Navalny.

[Narak-zempo]

By and large, both are riots.

[Deck]

Dear, riots and violation of the rules for holding mass events are different acts. The Criminal Code and the Code of Administrative Offenses have detailed definitions of both. Your legal nihilism is depressing.

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: Deck

Dear, riots and violation of the rules for holding mass events are different acts. The Criminal Code and the Code of Administrative Offenses have detailed definitions of both. Your legal nihilism is depressing.

Me, you know, as Russian man troll, the idea of ​​"right" is not close.
I adhere to the idea of ​​the divine nature of power and humility.

[Deck]

History dictates that in this case you will have to face another popular idea, namely "truth". This, in turn, in combination with the feedback channels lawned by the authorities and the absence of social lifts ("justice") and, as a result, stagnation in the economy will inevitably lead to the third great Russian idea: "riot". Well, then read the great Russian BLM poet A.S. Pushkin

[Varyag71]

Raising slaves

[VORON538]

Thirteen pedophiles-liberals have passed away!

[BISMARCK94]

To hell with him, with the bulk. But to forbid people to hold a meeting is some kind of surreal. And running on the Internet for children on the basis of this is also something of delirium

[krops777]

To hell with him, with the bulk. But to forbid people to hold a meeting is some kind of surreal. And running on the Internet for children on the basis of this is also something of delirium

How did the protests end during the pandemic after the murder of a Negro in the United States? Nobody forbids protesting, but within the framework of the law, now there is a pandemic, plus children are being pulled here, is it not nonsense? If he fails, he doesn't care if he has one goal set by the US State Department.

[BISMARCK94]

Isn't it nonsense to coordinate rallies with those you oppose?)

[krops777]

Isn't it nonsense to coordinate rallies with those you oppose?)

No, everyone has the right to publicly express their opinion within the framework of the law, of course, democracy is its mother.

[BISMARCK94]

It has. But the laws are usually adopted by those against whom the rally is held. This is the paradox

[common man]

Quote: BISMARCK94

But the laws are usually adopted by those against whom the rally is held.

Interesting. Come Navalny and others like him to power, what laws will they adopt? Guess twice.
1 Anarchy is the mother of order.
2. As in the developed dem. countries (Ukraine - all those who disagree to the wall, the USA - half of the army guards the inauguration, the Baltic states - suffrage only for the elite, etc.)

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: BISMARCK94

Isn't it nonsense to coordinate rallies with those you oppose?)

do you prefer anarchy?

[halpat]

Quote: BISMARCK94

To hell with him, with the bulk. But to forbid people to hold a meeting is some kind of surreal. And running on the Internet for children on the basis of this is also something of delirium

Calling minors to participate in the riots is a criminal offense akin to pedophilia.
Sisyan and his comrades have broken the next bottom. Urgently to cut down the forest, for 15 years.

[Deniska999]

Of course, yes, it is ignoble to involve youths in protest activities. But such a general spread of the idea of ​​rallies testifies to the failure of work with young people.

[halpat]

Quote: Deniska999

Of course, yes, it is ignoble to involve youths in protest activities. But such a general spread of the idea of ​​rallies testifies to the failure of work with young people.

This is yes.
Everyone needs to talk to their children !! Explain!
And work with them further. They sit in gadgets, and there are bulk / Zhdanovs / Volkovs - damn pedophiles, creatures !!
And guys this is a hype ...

[NDR-791]

Everyone needs to talk to their children !! Explain!
And work with them further.
Who is really responsible for their children, he not only explained, but even learned in spite of the school. And this is useless. They even now stick out here, the anarchists are unfinished. Because they can only break, they were not taught to build. Although they are sitting on VO, they should be at the rally

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Halpat

This is yes.
Everyone needs to talk to their children !! Explain!
And work with them further. They sit in gadgets, and there are bulk / Zhdanovs / Volkovs - damn pedophiles, creatures !!
And guys this is a hype.

I barely explained to my own what and how. I found this unfortunate palace in the programs of 2010 and 2016 ... Sisyan is already the third one ... The dust is blowing away, and Alga ... So those responsible for spreading lies on the Internet should be answered ... And involving children in illegal protest activity is akin to pedophilia. And give for such a comparatively ...

[Deck]

Something inexplicable - pro-government commentators constantly (either a bottle in the ass, or pedophilia, the St. Petersburg vice-governor Ira Potekhina compared the rallies with sex and alcohol) any sexual-genital associations? Do you have a problem? Can you honestly talk with experts in this profile?

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: Deniska999

indicates failure of youth work

You have to fight like sidor goats, that's all.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: BISMARCK94

But to forbid people to hold a meeting is some kind of sur

they were not forbidden either

[BISMARCK94]

Well, yes, Ukraine is an eternal argument)

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

why you are not satisfied with this argument, refute it if you can

[Gato]

Ukraine is an eternal argument

Why not? Bright and visual, by which you can clearly trace the script's moves and consequences. In his best. Or #Unasother?

[zadorin1974]

Good Aleksandr. And why Ukraine can not be an argument? That was the revolution there, they removed the thieves and corrupt officials in the person of the Yanukovych government. IIIII ???? Did they live happily? Everyone moved to Mercians and began to eat caviar? Medicine has improved? As I understand it, you also wanted anarchy? I can give you another example, France. Fatty, rich Europe. And what about the constant demonstrations, burning cars and barricades? And the slogans Not to remind? In Armenia, too, the revolution has passed, Pashinyan from the same opera, who rose at the protests, also all bathed in chocolate? I have one joy, my children are standing on the other side of the wall. And when the unrest is unleashing, I will stand next to my children. Not for Putin and Co., but for calmness. I don't want to run around the ruins in armor with a machine gun anymore.

[Gato]

Ukraine is an eternal argument

A little more offtopic from the heading "Their customs":

On the eve of Kiev, near the IQ business center, the former first deputy head of the SBU Dmitry Neskromny was detained.
According to the newspaper, he was detained on suspicion of transferring money for organizing the contract murder of Andrei Naumov, head of the SBU's main internal security department.
Also in this case, an employee of the Alfa SBU special unit Andrei Rasyuk was detained.
At the same time, it is reported that after the arrest Nemodesty fled right in handcuffs. In this regard, an interception plan was announced.
Immodest was the deputy head of the SBU from 2019 to March 2020.

Everything is fine in this news, especially the will to freedom

[loki565]

they were not forbidden either

Half of them no longer live in Ukraine, Polish strawberries and all that)))

[NDR-791]

And running on the Internet for children on the basis of this is also something of delirium
This is absolutely true Onizhedeti !!! Mom is anarchy, dad is a glass of port ??? How old do we have criminal responsibility? Maybe not to run after them, maybe mom and dad will answer?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Ros 56

and other shops are packed with cars, and not Muscovites and Zhiguli, but foreign cars for every taste.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Ros 56

And you are a bot, it turns out,

Plus the bot is bulk.
Basement and bayden of one field of berries. Both the one and the other dream of destroying Russia

[Alex DHG]

No. Not everyone. But for the involvement of children, one must jail.

[Svetlana]

Boy, first grow up and learn
and then you will be able to take on the solution of state problems.
Those who cannot read or write do not become authors of stories.

[krops777]

Are you satisfied with everything in our country? If yes, then such commentators should put you on a bottle ... Putinoid bots ...

What do you think under Stalin, too, everything suited everyone, too, the bots of the Stalinists? And what would have happened to him with Provalny, if he had such a protest, I'm afraid he would not have gotten rid of for 10 years.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Sofa Expert

Putinoida bots ...

that is, you can express your opinion and others cannot? !!
bots immediately!
then why are you indignant at the prohibitions on rallies, they will pour out, after all, this is your position, only against you

[Genry]

Quote: Sofa Expert

Putinoida bots ...

Do you hang up the labels?
The technology is immediately visible from the manuals ...

[Gardamir]

So now minors are not allowed to attend any rally? Or meetings of two categories? Some are supposedly bad, while others are supposedly patriotic. Only here are the boys. that now in power, everyone in the late 80s was invited to democracy, told about the right to vote, the right to hold a meeting. It turns out these rights were good while they were against the Soviet Union. But against the current Nizzzz.

[Sofa expert]

That's right, they've taken the worst from the West and are using it against the population .. The wall is crying for these rulers ..

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Sofa Expert

That's right, they took the worst from the West and are using it against the population.

and you know that it is in the west for participating in unlawful rallies and processions

[common man]

Quote: Gardamir

That is, now it is impossible for minors to attend any meeting?

As far as I understood, they will not be punished for participating in rallies, but for publicly inciting protests, when they initially show where the brick lies and at whom to throw it. That is why the howls are raised in bulk, because they thought that the police would beat the teenagers for joy (you know who), but it turns out that those who sent others will be imprisoned, and he himself sat quietly at home.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Gardamir

That is, now it is impossible for minors to attend any meeting?

for ANY NOT LEGAL

[Gardamir]

for ANY NOT LEGAL

as well?
Article 17

1. In the Russian Federation, human and civil rights and freedoms are recognized and guaranteed in accordance with generally accepted principles and norms of international law and in accordance with this Constitution.

2. Fundamental human rights and freedoms are inalienable and belong to everyone from birth.

3. The exercise of the rights and freedoms of a person and citizen must not violate the rights and freedoms of others.

Article 31

Citizens of the Russian Federation have the right to assemble peacefully without weapons, hold meetings, rallies and demonstrations, marches and pickets.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

I understand that you and a bulkhead are from the same educational institution, it's me that you both interpret the laws in a peculiar way
in the Constitution there is not a word about the prohibition of pedophilia and the prohibition of drunk driving, do you think this means that these acts are allowed ?!

you have the right to "meetings, rallies and demonstrations, processions and picketing" but these actions are regulated by other legislative acts
and either you are simply illiterate, or a provocateur

[aybolyt678]

Navalny is tired ... he offers nothing but a reason for riots. He doesn't even suggest changing the system. And the system is such that - having palaces have people

[VORON538]

Navalner is not imprisoned, 30 days-chickens laugh
Platoshkin for less - in prison
The question is, whose interests are represented by the bulkhead? Maybe capital, which is eager to feed?

[Intruder]

Maybe capital, which is torn to the trough?

Was it different !? , everyone pulled their handles to the "trough" and many successfully reached out, surprisingly ...

[Svetlana]

This is normal. This is a pre-trial arrest, not a punishment opening. The court will decide for what and how much.

[WIKI]

Quote: Svetlana

This is a pre-trial arrest

Long live our judgment.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: WIKI

Long live our judgment.

this Karaulov, that mouthpiece of Perestroika. Yes, Naval is saved! while he is in prison he is alive. They will make a victim of him! in prison, his carcass will breathe, and in freedom he will breathe as a beginner, or like Nemtsov ...

[Svetlana]

What will happen to the forum if we talk to each other with vidos? Express your thought in words.

[WIKI]

Why should I plagiarize and retell if I can honestly refer to the original source. If you do not agree with the facts stated in the video, write it. And since you have no questions, then I did everything right. Why bother with unnecessary nonsense.

[Svetlana]

Hmm .. don't think right. It is better to summarize the video or provide a short quote and source from it than just cite the source.
...
"Any revolution is worth something only if it knows how to defend itself "... Collected Works v.37 V. I. Lenin will be more correct than just a PSS v.37 V. I. Lenin.

[WIKI]

Quote: Svetlana

Better to summarize the video

I summarized, "Long live our judgment." If you need a lot of words, then this is not for me. "Only that which is empty inside thunders" - William Shakespeare. I specially wrote the author so that you would not convict me of plagiarism.

[atalef]

Quote: VORON538

The question is, whose interests are represented by the bulkhead? Maybe capital, which is eager to feed?

and whose interests does Putin represent? Medvedev?

[aszzz888]

atalef (alexander)
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Quote: VORON538
The question is, whose interests are represented by the bulkhead? Maybe capital, which is eager to feed?

and whose interests does Putin represent? Medvedev?

Definitely not yours. pi.si. Better ask the benny whose "interests he represents"

[atalef]

Quote: aszzz888

Definitely not yours. pi.si. Better ask the benny whose "interests he represents"

I do not know .
but you forget a little, our prime ministers are re-elected. and Benya will be re-elected and he will go to jail if the accusations are confirmed (like Olmert sat down or Katsav). And you only have a Navalny thief.

[aszzz888]

atalef (alexander)
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Quote: aszzz888
Definitely not yours. pi.si. Better ask the benny whose "interests he represents"

I do not know .
but you forget a little, our prime ministers are re-elected. and Benya will be re-elected and he will go to jail if the accusations are confirmed (like Olmert sat down or Katsav). And you only have a Navalny thief.

And in your Jewish woman all are NOT THIEFS ?!

[aybolyt678]

Quote: VORON538

The question is, whose interests are represented by the bulkhead? Maybe capital, which is eager to feed?

absolutely right! Capital, foreign, financial. Our Russian capital does not suit them that it is ours ... we don’t like it either, and they are trying to play on it. Foreign capital, which Platoshkin does not have trump cards, so Naval gets away with it.

[Sofa expert]

The piled-up fellow only by exposing the stealing power, started from the bottom and reached the top .. The fish has rotted for a long time ..

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Sofa Expert

The piled-up fellow only by exposing the stealing power, started from the bottom and reached the top ..

Whistleblower, damn it ... An ordinary liar in the best traditions of the school of Dr. Goebbels .... They sit, the whole team oval-suck out the "truth-womb" and "exposure" are sucked out of the finger. Whatever "revelation" you take - "presumably", "from the words of a source who did not want to name himself", "probably", "can be admitted" ... Arguments - one to one like the owners - the British and the staff ... And about "Putin's palace" was told by a fellow like Rodchenko about doping. With that Rodchenko, everything has long been clear - and this is the same "contractor" ....

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Sofa Expert

The fish has rotted for a long time ..

Navalny loves money too

[Deniska999]

Navalny is part of the system)

[Sotskiy]

Quote: aybolyt678

Navalny is tired ... he offers nothing but a reason for riots. He doesn't even suggest changing the system.

He was not supposed to have such a goal.
Navalny declares the change of "wrong" capitalism to "correct". That is, the replacement of the current exploiters by others, "correct" ones, in the same capitalist paradigm.
We are invited to once again compete for "THEIR" right to exploit, through the hands of the exploited.
YOU HAVE NOT DECIDED YET WHICH SIDE OF OPERATORS TO CHOOSE?
THEN PUTIN WITH THE BULK COME TO YOU!

[Ros 56]

This should have been done 20 years ago, we came to our senses, we need to think less about our pockets.

[sleeve]

Half measure, although effective. Criminal and administrative impunity for minors multiplied by the elemental of adolescent puberty plus the same adolescent nihilism of "self-determination". Here is a combustible mass, a passive base for ignition. The herding of teenage companies, the propensity for hype and the search for authority figures are the detonator. The people who ride this skate, although unprincipled, are accurate and reasonable. The state and society will not screw criminal nuts on these "pimply" bolts of the alleged protest. As well as abandoning the idea of ​​a great information wall, which is difficult and costly and ineffective. And by the way, having adopted this option, some "pseudo-activists" are trying to politicize the youth-controlled movements. Do they want a teenage "citizen"? Volunteering and self-education, historical spirituality and the activity of social (it is her, politics has its time!) Position - that's what these movements need. Do not "plunge" into your games "not for children". Moreover, with a touch of "cult", for which every time "the ear is turned out". But the servile nature, aggravated by the rise in the administrative ladder, all one thing requires children's rallies "in support", although THERE and without children are quite worth it.

[Intruder]

... Here is a combustible mass, a passive base for ignition. The herding of teenage companies, the propensity for hype and the search for authority figures are the detonator.

but to the point, to disperse as before .., "cosmonauts" of the RosGvardia are more effective than the most vigorous, but "dumb" puberty with nihilism "milk-lip" punks :)

[Intruder]

Moreover, with a touch of "cult", for which every time "the ear is turned out". But the servile nature, exacerbated with the rise in the administrative ladder, all one requires children's rallies "in support"

I agree with this, especially:

But the servile nature, sharpening

while the low social culture of our youth does not allow them to effectively solve problems with power here and now, but perhaps in 100 years and will grow to European values! in a good way, I meant ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Intruder

in 100 years and will grow to European values! in a good way, I meant ...

and what exactly do you mean, what are good values ​​in Europe?

[WIKI]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Well, what values ​​are good in Europe?

If we compare health care expenditures with the GDP of different countries, the largest share of health care expenditures is in the United States (16,40%), about 11% of GDP in Germany, France, and Sweden. Russia 5% ;.

[Quadro]

Quote: WIKI

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Well, what values ​​are good in Europe?

If we compare health care expenditures with the GDP of different countries, the largest share of health care expenditures is in the United States (16,40%), about 11% of GDP in Germany, France, and Sweden. Russia 5% ;.

Well, that is, in sga medicine is the best in the world? I see what you are. Apparently stupid American presidents and politicians are wasting money and time, constantly talking about medical robbery, poor treatment and insurance slavery. These are the European values. Or good medicine in European Holland, where it is advised to be treated abroad and not to have any dealings with the locals, because in the literal sense they will kill you with their methods of treatment. It is easy to write heresy about "good" there, when many cannot check. The main thing is to roll out the tsiferki.

[WIKI]

There is only one chatter from you against the numbers. Bark like a dog for no reason.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: WIKI

There is only one chatter from you against the numbers. Bark like a dog for no reason.

only an extremely stupid person will stupidly transfer the methods of management operating in one country to another
a simple example when designing factories for industrial production in the USSR, warehouses were laid out for 3 6 months of autonomous work, in Europe for 2 hours, if you transfer Western experience to our realities, then the production will simply stop, by the way they do not keep there full-time repairmen and there are no spare parts warehouses about the word at all, and we will not be able to work without this

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

your Russian is not native or the term value is not clear?

[WIKI]

I did not understand anything from what you said. I tell you what% of its GDP the state allocates for the health of the nation. And you to me?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

and what have the values?

[WIKI]

Isn't the health of the nation a value? Or it's easier to talk about homosexuals and same-sex marriages. So we have them. All this is not regulated by law, but it is not prosecuted either. Something like the fight against alcoholism. Although gender reassignment is also possible with us by law.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: WIKI

Isn't the health of the nation a value?

do you really think that this is valued by money ?!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: WIKI

Or it's easier to talk about homosexuals and same-sex marriages.

but the attitude towards this is precisely the value

[WIKI]

To discuss with you, is more expensive for yourself. Cons churning out like a mad printer. Low and mean. Your avatar matches your internal content.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: WIKI

Low and mean

baby you're not at the kindergarten matinee
are talking nonsense and want to put pluses for you? !!!
remember once and for all Values ​​are what people are ready to die for, but what you think about can only be bought cheaper or more expensive
and yes, the amount of money invested does not mean the quality of the output

[WIKI]

I'm not your kid. Perhaps you are good for me as a son. "You can think about each endlessly, but, in my opinion, these are the most important values ​​- life itself, love and freedom," - Putin. Life is closely related to health.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: WIKI

Perhaps you are good for me as a son.

only if you are under 90

Quote: WIKI

but, in my opinion, these are the most important values ​​- life itself, love and freedom ", - Putin. Life is closely linked with health.

damn you are really kidding
if your loved ones have a disease, will you love them less? !!!
about freedom in general, nonsense a person, in principle, cannot be free

[WIKI]

So we are of the same age. And to call a person behind the eyes a kid is not a sign of good form. Are you fooling around.

Quote: WIKI
Or it's easier to talk about homosexuals and same-sex marriages.

but the attitude towards this is precisely the value

Values ​​are what people are willing to die for

Something in my life I have never met cases where people would give their lives for such values. They give their lives for the country, their family. And the little things can be sold for drugs, or a bottle of vodka.

[Intruder]

values ​​in Europe are good

social (and traditional :) in traditional families meaning ... ), for various groups of the population .., and other things that are not and will not be in the Russian Federation yet, even a simple example: to shit in the area of ​​the trash can in the park, but this is ahead ... still, I hope !!! I, at the end of my comment, in a good way and (specially) wrote ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Intruder

shit in the area of ​​the trash can in the park, but this is ahead ... still, I hope !!!

are you talking about this ?!

This is called I want lace panties and to Europe
with us it was all and no worse, I went to the mountains with my father since childhood, no one and when there did not leave garbage, everyone took away with them

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Intruder

while the low social culture of our youth does not allow them to effectively solve problems

low social culture ??? or socialization? Culture is what we, the mature generation, instill, the information background, the implanted system of values. Or low social literacy? because culture is a system of internal limitations. And competent people of our government are not needed, because it is more difficult to manage them, according to Kudrin's apt expression ...

[Intruder]

Or low social literacy? because culture is a system of internal limitations.

right, which influences the acceptance and assessment of certain social patterns and negative stereotypes in society ... And literate people are generally few, where they are needed ... I absolutely agree with Kudrin :)))

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Intruder

I absolutely agree with Kudrin :)))

Do you want to say that you agree that our state is pursuing an anti-social policy of the cult of consumption enshrined in the Constitution, where the primary goal of the social state is to create conditions that ensure a decent life and free development of a person? while the concept of a decent life and free development is not deciphered, implying personal enrichment and freedom from morality?

[Intruder]

in our state, an anti-social policy of the cult of consumption is being carried out, enshrined in the Constitution, where the primary goal of the social state is to create conditions that ensure a decent life and free development of a person? while the concept of a decent life and free development is not deciphered, implying personal enrichment and freedom from morality?

already systematically and 30 years, but why agree !? I believe that Kudrin voiced inadvertently just part of the plan, therefore I only agree that the authorities are unnecessary ...

[Tagan]

Quote: Divan expert

Are you satisfied with everything in our country? If yes, then such commentators should put you on a bottle ... Putinoid bots ...

Are you, piled up, maybe it is okay to use your children in this whole movement? Like meat. YOURS, not strangers.

[Gardamir]

to use your children in this whole movement?

When you had to destroy the Soviet Union, people like you also wrote about the 'tear of a child'.

[Nikolay1987]

To replace Putin by showing how rich his entourage is, this tactic works only for the narrow-minded. In order to take Putin's place, you need to show that you can do his job more efficiently than he - to help the people. But he has not enough for this (money, connections, brains). Bulk sucker and this is his fate. But as long as he has an army of hamsters, the State Department will always help Aleshka with money.

[atalef]

Quote: Nikolay1987

To replace Putin by showing how rich his entourage is, this tactic only works for the narrow-minded.

showing how he and his close circle steals

Quote: Nikolay1987

In order to take Putin's place, you need to show that you can do his job more efficiently than he - help the people

helping the people - mmmmm?
comrade, it is not possible to prove something if a priori I don’t send you anywhere (except for a prison cell)

Quote: Nikolay1987

But he has not enough for this (money, connections, brains).

Well, okay . Putin is president for life. and tomorrow he will nominate Pupkin and all of you will vote for him en masse.

Quote: Nikolay1987

Bulk sucker and this is his fate

a bulk hero, and it's good that there are still people in Russia who are ready to go against the system (so what, but they could definitely buy him if he wanted it)
I believe him, more than the entire top.
And what she is trying to do with him is only out of fear.

Quote: Nikolay1987

But as long as he has an army of hamsters, the State Department will always help Aleshka with money.

State Department - how beautiful it is to blame everything on the state. dep.

[Deniska999]

Does Navalny have an attractive program for rebuilding Russia? Or is it stupid to demolish the current ones, and then we'll see?)

[atalef]

Quote: Deniska999

Does Navalny have an attractive program for rebuilding Russia?

Maybe there's . You know better. You were generally interested. By the way, why is it necessary to reorganize? Every new president in every other country (where they get re-elected 0 - necessarily rebuilds?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: atalef

You know better.

Originally, you drown behind the bulk, but to know what he wants should we?

By the way, why is it necessary to reorganize?

Then what does he want?

Every new president in any other country (where they are reelected 0 - necessarily rebuild?

When Biden came to power, the first thing he did was to reverse the Trump laws.
Is this not a re-arrangement?

[atalef]

Quote: Lipchanin

Originally, you drown behind the bulk, but to know what he wants should we?

I do not drown for Navalny, I speak for freedom of speech and assembly. but today - he is one of the few in Russia who is fighting for it

Quote: Lipchanin

Then what does he want?

well, probably improve the lives of citizens

Quote: Lipchanin

When Biden came to power, the first thing he did was to reverse the Trump laws.
Is this not a re-arrangement?

you know. cancellation of the decree - reorganization and revolution - reorganization - there is a huge distance between these actions. and you are trying to fit it into one word.
The world is not divided into black and white - there are 50 more shades of gray.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: atalef

rebuilding and revolution

You twist again.
Where did I talk about the revolution?

[atalef]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: atalef

rebuilding and revolution

You twist again.
Where did I talk about the revolution?

in the word reorganization, you can stick anything you like - from revolution and changing the retirement age, to renovation. Therefore, call a spade a spade

[VORON538]

Passed already ... The drunken Boris also came ... Then there was the slogan "God forbid", and with the active support of the Americans. Yeltsin's feared the coming to power of the Communists, they are afraid even now. Navalner does not reflect the interests of the Russian population, but rather represents the interests of that part of the business that dreams of continuing to sell Russia piece by piece to their friends. The USSR has been destroyed, now it’s Russia's turn, and here is a candidate for the role of Boriska

[Crimean partisan 1974]

showing how he and his close circle steals ........ yeah. at the high-level liley level, you can hear enough of such news for free at every shop at the entrance, but it's only a waste of time to file a waste of time with the OBS, evidence is needed in the courts, not One Grandma Said ..... but Sisyan's cooperation with agents of foreign influence easily provable ... you can put an end to this question

[Lipchanin]

Quote: atalef

that there are still people in Russia who are ready to go against the system

Can't you tell me whose money he goes "against the system" and why he attracts youngsters to these campaigns?
No need to answer, I know the answer in advance.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: atalef

bulk hero

Navalny is a scenario. Russian heroes were treated only in German concentration camps, but not in hospitals. G. Kernes, for example, in the same Charite was not saved. And the scenario is where the person is a doll. He should have died back in December, as a hero, according to the script, he was rescued, now they are rescuing again because "show must go", and in this performance there must be a victim. He is glad to sit alone, because he worked in Germany.

[evgen1221]

And the youngsters are bribed with free money for beer and rolls. In his right mind, Bulk nafig did not bother anyone to freeze for him.

[Lech from Android.]

I approve the bill, a timely and necessary matter.

[Dmitriy444]

I do not support the involvement of minors in rallies and riots. But something went wrong in our country. 5, 10 years, but let's get back to such friends 25 years without the right to correspond, why waste time on trifles? 25 and work in two shifts at the already American KRAZ.

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: Dmitriy444

work in two shifts at the already American KRAZ.

Pot, KRAZ has long been bankrupt, like the entire auto industry in Ukraine.

[Avior]

Yes, Krasnoyarsk does not seem to be in Ukraine ...

[Quadro]

Quote: Avior

Yes, Krasnoyarsk does not seem to be in Ukraine ...

And you already have Kremenchug Krasnoyarsk? And here such opponents here, they don't even know geography.

[NDR-791]

25 and work in two shifts at the already American KRAZ.
I don't know what country you have, but KRAZ is definitely not with us If your skakauskas get 25 each, we won't pay either.

[Avior]

He clearly wrote about Krasnoyarsk. KrAZ is there.
Surprisingly, the Russians know the situation in Ukraine better than in Russia.

[Lech from Android.]

When it comes to the safety of children, there is no need to waste time on trifles, those who use children at the risk of their lives should definitely go to prison. I don't care who it is ... the child should be safe, that's all.

[VORON538]

So you got burned, fat troll (
Dmitry444 (Dmitry))

with Square!
KrAZ is Ukraine, you have already rode it !!!

[Dmitriy444]

And if you sometimes use at least your head, then how can you send to work in two shifts in Ukraine? KrAZ - Krasnoyarsk Aluminum Smelter.

[Avior]

Which was just leaked to the Americans.
It is very clear how the people were beaten with Ukraine, and not with Russian problems.

[Avior]

Do you also live with the problems of Ukraine?

[aszzz888]

UK approves bill on criminal punishment for involving minors in rallies

And this is correct. For not fig.

[Tagan]

Quote: Gardamir

So now minors are not allowed to attend any rally? Or meetings of two categories? Some are supposedly bad, while others are supposedly patriotic. Only here are the boys. that now in power, everyone in the late 80s was invited to democracy, told about the right to vote, the right to hold a meeting. It turns out these rights were good while they were against the Soviet Union. But against the current Nizzzz.

What should they do there? Adults have the right to vote. To listen to you, so any kindergartener has the right to express his will and political activity.
And don't mix up gatherings of extremists with events dedicated to public holidays, for example.

[sleeve]

That's right. Again kindergarten "counterarguments". There in black and white about the "illegal". I coordinated the meeting, checked the agenda and set off. If schoolchildren come out in support there I don't know, their teachers, or vice versa, who will say the word? And sensible organizers do not invite teenagers to "politics". This is cumbersome and pointless. It's another matter that our administrations are just drawing figs and the feeling that they sometimes don't give a damn about the Constitution. Then the next step should be. And fast. Public place. Available with relative safety. And not a "permissive" system with a meeting. Yes, get together for any reason, if the law does not contradict. And there are not so many of them "inciting hatred on the basis of", "a call to violent actions" and this is the law. If there is such a "place", there should be just a notification and approval so that the place was free. That is, an open "schedule" of use. Ministry of Internal Affairs - from 300 people-outfit. The rest is order from the organizers. There is an excess on a fine or an article, in short, you are responsible for everything. Including for the difference from the declared and what is happening.
But one more time. Everything is now and fast. It all happened in cities of 50000 inhabitants and it was normal. And regional centers in any way. Everyone should have the RIGHT. Also, so that it does not turn into a hype, into a social "smuggling", like jeans in the 70s. And this state must "complete" within the framework of the right to freedom of speech. Do not let it down. And to defend the Constitution yourself.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Tagan

To listen to you, so any kindergartener has the right to express his will and political activity.

At the level "Down with the teacher and more toys"

[Sofa expert]

Ros56 you lick further the thieving power .. The revolution always eats its children .. And it will devour you too .. Cancer of conscience ..

[Ksanatos]

Whiners would like to answer with the words of one successful person whom I know: "... believe me, life is the same everywhere, even in Holland, even in Russia. It all depends on your qualifications. If you are a good specialist, you will find a job everywhere." I agree with him. I admit that I have many opportunities and ideas, but I am lazy, so complaints about the State would be hypocrisy on my part.

[Avior]

This is a notion of employers.
"Needed where was born"
It is very profitable for them - anyway the employee will come to you, why strain and pay more?
In fact, in the same EU there is a serious internal labor migration - people are looking for a place where conditions are better, this keeps employers in good shape - you will pay little - workers will leave you, especially good ones.

[tralflot1832]

Have you come to your senses, but before it was impossible? I also do not like much

[cheburator]

It is high time to send bulk to Kolyma, they will send him to help, and with their parents it is necessary to write out fucking fines!

[Prisoner]

They came to their senses. Such a law has long been needed. At least after that snotty "payer" of taxes.

[anjey]

It comes to the point of absurdity, soon they will start taking toddlers and kindergarteners to the streets, most of them now have a bunch of gadgets and access to different networks, such as "Cheburashka and Winnie the Pooh against Putin" Maybe we can somehow answer, for example, to give ordinary US citizens a Far Eastern hectare and Russian citizenship, I think there will be those who wish.

[Mykhalych]

Strange, but Article 150 is present in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation
Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Article 150. Involvement of a minor in the commission of a crime

1. Involvement of a minor in the commission of a crime by means of promises, deception, threats or in any other way, committed by a person who has reached the age of eighteen, -
shall be punished by imprisonment for a term of up to five years.
2. The same deed, committed by a parent, a teacher or any other person who is entrusted by law with the duties of raising a minor, -
(in the edition of the Federal Law from 02.07.2013 N 185-FZ)
(see the text in the previous wording)
shall be punishable by imprisonment for a term of up to six years, with or without deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions or engage in certain activities for a term of up to three years.
3. Deeds provided for in the first or second part of this Article, committed with the use of violence or with the threat of its use, -
are punished with imprisonment for a term of two to seven years, with or without restraint of liberty for a term of up to two years.
(in the edition of the Federal Law from 27.12.2009 N 377-FZ)
(see the text in the previous wording)
4. Acts provided for in parts one, two or three of this article, related to the involvement of a minor in a criminal group or in the commission of a grave or especially grave crime, as well as in the commission of a crime based on political, ideological, racial, national or religious hatred or enmity, or for reasons of hatred or enmity against any social group, -
(in the edition of the Federal Law from 24.07.2007 N 211-FZ)
(see the text in the previous wording)
are punished with imprisonment for a term of five to eight years, with or without restraint of liberty for a term of up to two years.
(in the edition of the Federal Law from 27.12.2009 N 377-FZ)
Taki Oloshela can develop for a fairly solid period (and God forbid that it would be so) .In addition to the existing conditional + Part 4 of Article 159 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, and Article 150 until Part 2, but they can also impose Part 4 .. ... Right now it is more profitable for him to pretend to be insane ..., although he is.

[AUL]

Quote: Mykhalych

Involvement of a minor in the commission crime

That is, what the Constitution guarantees to us, you consider a crime?

[Moonsund]

I do not like at all that laws are written in haste to fit the situation. This is alarming, but the authorities have already compromised themselves, this is not obvious only to the very stubborn. I do not care how the issues of rallies are resolved in the USA, I am worried about our children. The situation screams that the vomit that the State Duma and other powers that be are feeding us is not hawking. Nobody is involved in the upbringing of growing up, as well as everyone else. Here is the result. This will be done by the rogue Navalny and other crooks who, in my deep conviction, will not bring anything but confusion, because they do not have a program and the necessary qualities. In short, it’s a fig business to involve minors in politics, but that is the fault of the one who brought up his oligarchs and doesn’t understand that his time is gone, he has nothing more to offer people. But he could become the greatest President in history, who stopped the disintegration and gave the country a new vector, but he would be old, boring, choked up, silicone and God knows what else he will be called. Very sorry

[Klingon]

you have perhaps the only balanced comment, I think you noticed correctly. Someone's time has passed and there is nothing to offer. What is Pu's vector ?? there is no it .. In the USSR there was a vector and there was a desire to achieve something, develop science, conquer space, and so on. and now no one has any enthusiasm. Teens see what they see. And they see that in order to break out "into the people" now they do not need high ideals and knowledge. The main thing is to get settled in the "right" place and quickly forget the concept of "conscience"
The huckster mentality is firmly established in the minds of the people.

[rocket757]

Quote: Moonsund

The situation screams that .......... no one is involved in the upbringing of the growing up, as well as everyone else

The upper, "elected, hired workers" drew all the rights to themselves .... most of the responsibilities were pushed onto us, down.
Well settled in !!!
We, too, are good ... we live by the principle, if only it does not become WORSE!
And worse, it has come and will be even worse, if YOURSELF, ALL TOGETHER, do not harness the process of managing OUR LIFE, OUR STATE.
Now, only to look for the most guilty, it is a lost cause, the situation must be corrected!

[Dart2027]

A very correct law. It is high time.

[Tagan]

Quote: BISMARCK94

Isn't it nonsense to coordinate rallies with those you oppose?)

Delirium - obey the laws? Clear.
What do you say to that?

Those. this means that a herd of rams is recruited by default. These are our progressive bulk.
In your opinion - normal.

[Intruder]

Those. this means that a herd of rams is recruited by default. These are our progressive bulk.

a corrupt new generation of Russia of the Future, for 500 rubles and a few cuffs with a special stick .., it's sad all somehow :(

[tralflot1832]

We all believe in fairy tales, they want