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UK approves bill on criminal punishment for involving minors in rallies

The Investigative Committee and the Russian Supreme Court upheld a bill that would criminalize the involvement of minors in illegal rallies.


The new bill was developed by State Duma deputy Yevgeny Marchenko. He proposes to replace the administrative liability for involving minors in illegal rallies with a criminal one, which provides for imprisonment for up to five years. In addition, the same bill proposes to punish with imprisonment up to 10 years for persuading teenagers to organize mass riots.

This bill was considered by the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation. The UK said that the existing measures can no longer ensure compliance with the requirements of the law, therefore, the tightening of liability is "conceptually supported."

The bill was also considered by the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation. The official response says that the Armed Forces have comments of both legal and technical nature.

The bill is currently being considered by the Russian government.

As previously reported, the Investigative Committee opened a criminal case over the dissemination of appeals to minors on social networks to participate in illegal rallies of Navalny's supporters on January 23.

Navalny's supporters post publications on the Internet, social networks (...) in which they urge minors to participate in unauthorized rallies in Moscow and other Russian cities on January 23. Within the framework of the criminal case, a set of investigative actions and operational-search measures are being carried out aimed at identifying the persons who published calls to an unlimited circle of minors to participate in illegal activities

- said in a statement to the UK.
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  1. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 23 January 2021 08: 38
    +47
    Put Navalny on a bottle for 10 years. Let him be punished for incitement to riot.
    1. VORON538
      VORON538 23 January 2021 08: 44
      +54
      The "most democratic" country in the world has clearly shown what can be done with the protesters, so the criminal case against the organizer is still soft!
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 23 January 2021 08: 59
        -83%
        The confused main pain - Bulk. They rush around with him as with a written bag, spreading their phantom fears on the air, refuting by this that no one needs him.

        Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?
        1. Sofa expert
          Sofa expert 23 January 2021 09: 00
          -72%
          It would be much worse ..
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 23 January 2021 09: 15
            -56%
            ... the bill proposes to punish by imprisonment to 10 years

            I think, if they could, they would put them right up against the wall.

            Power is in agony. By going to extreme measures, it shows its helplessness and wild fear even in front of teenagers.
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 23 January 2021 09: 20
              +34
              Quote: Stas157
              I think, if they could, they would put them right up against the wall.

              To the wall not to the wall, but the prohibition against the fighters against the state should be denied access to budgetary places in universities, otherwise, as in a joke, put on a rug in front of a neighbor's door, called him and asked him to wipe a piece of paper. And by the way. All adult opponents of the state - to hold any position in the state. management.

              Quote: Stas157
              Power is in agony.

              Unlike Janek, Putin has iron Fabergés and he has already proved this more than once in practice. do not wishful thinking.

              The last "referendum" on amendments to the Constitution showed that the people are for Putin.
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                1. Labrador
                  Labrador 23 January 2021 10: 02
                  +35
                  You can do whatever you want with such people, he already lay down on his back in advance and spread his legs apart.


                  You don't need to project your professional skills onto those around you. Otherwise, every person with reduced social responsibility thinks that everyone around is the same.
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                  2. Paranoid50
                    Paranoid50 23 January 2021 11: 32
                    +35
                    Quote: Labrador
                    no need to project your professional skills onto others.

                    Dmitry, you shouldn't waste time on an electrician from Haifa - this is one of the corrupt runners, and has nothing to do with our country. No, of course, his passport was lying around (what if?), But, I repeat - these rotten things go through the forest, or rather the desert. yes hi
                    1. askort154
                      askort154 23 January 2021 13: 27
                      +20
                      Paranoid50 ....but, I repeat - these rotten things go through the forest, or rather the desert.

                      Having fled to Israel, they "worry" about Russia to tears.
                      I had a good specialist (navigator) under my command. In 1998, "called the blood" to Israel. There I washed cans for 1,5 years at a small cannery, after which I rose to the rank of "accounting officer". The last thing I wrote is that I am ashamed to return home. More on the connection does not come out.
                      I look at the VO website, a whole team of such representatives of Israel. They are "friendly"! Two options - either
                      they are gnawed by resentment that they did the wrong thing, escaping to the "not promised" and burned the bridges to return, roofing felts
                      have extra earnings here. By the way, one of them is a "returnee" under the nickname "Krasnodar" - he sells apples in the Krasnodar Territory, but in VO he "nostalgic" for Israel, vilifying everything Russian. They don't like being called Jews. They are "Israelis", although there are many Arabs and other nationalities there. They work a lot on construction sites - Ukrainians, Moldovans and Georgians, who also "graze" on Russian Internet resources.
                      And viciously vilify Russia. hi
                      1. Vladimir Mashkov
                        Vladimir Mashkov 23 January 2021 16: 07
                        +4
                        More laws are good and necessary!
                        As for the crazy "freedom-loving" depraved idiots, it is bad that there are many of them. Sadly, but in most cases, the parents are to blame. Neglect...
                      2. Stepan S
                        Stepan S 23 January 2021 17: 41
                        +3
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        it's bad that there are a lot of them.

                        In fact, there are not so many of them. A third of those leaving are simply onlookers, and a third are various bloggers and other journalism to cover the "overthrow of the regime." More noise from them, they create the appearance of mass with the help of technology.
                    2. TANKISTONE
                      TANKISTONE 28 January 2021 12: 01
                      0
                      askort154 (Alexander) Two options - either
                      they are gnawed by resentment that they did the wrong thing, escaping to the "not promised" and burned the bridges to return, roofing felts
                      have extra earnings here.
                      I remembered MN Zadornov and his "Letter to Tsile". But, it would be better if the law prescribed a punishment in the form of depriving such "parents" of their rights, with sending them to the construction of the next branch of the BAM, and the children to a boarding school for difficult teenagers. And then, they take children from families and for lesser offenses, moreover, very little understanding ...
                2. sniperino
                  sniperino 24 January 2021 12: 06
                  0
                  Quote: Labrador
                  every person with reduced social responsibility thinks that everyone around is the same.
                  "Almost the same, only worse": high social responsibility requires confirmation by deeds, and for low social responsibility it is enough self-conceit.
              2. Boris55
                Boris55 23 January 2021 10: 26
                +11
                Quote: atalef
                in your concept, any power is a state

                Power - personifies the state. Take away the power and there will be no state. Does the people have the right to express their dissatisfaction with the actions of the authorities - yes, but only on legal grounds. Everything I suggested above refers to participants in unauthorized rallies..

                Quote: atalef
                Janek didn't have enough to shoot everyone and transplant Faberge

                It was not enough to transplant a hundred - as a result, thousands died.

                Quote: atalef
                but Putin has enough.

                Enough, don't hesitate. The siloviki are on the side of the president.



                Quote: atalef
                of course for. Are you sure about that?




                If you have another way to find out the opinion of the people, I will listen to it with pleasure (Maidan - do not offer).
                1. paul3390
                  paul3390 23 January 2021 10: 40
                  +6
                  Everything that I suggested above refers to participants in unauthorized rallies.

                  That is, I understand correctly - will it be possible to attract minors to participate in sanctioned rallies, for example, in support of the United Russia Party? And even necessary?
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 23 January 2021 10: 44
                    +3
                    Minors should read books.
                    I would generally forbid people who have no dependent two or more children to participate in the political life of the country. The brains of unmarried and childless people are concerned about others. Not about the country and its future thoughts they have.
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 23 January 2021 10: 51
                      -28%
                      Quote: Boris55
                      I would generally forbid people with no dependent two or more children to participate in the political life of the country. The brains of unmarried and childless people are concerned about others.

                      good
                    2. sniperino
                      sniperino 24 January 2021 12: 17
                      -1
                      Quote: Boris55
                      I would generally forbid people with no dependent two or more children to participate in the political life of the country.
                      Chill a little, Boris! If my children are already adults and are not dependent on me, then should I and others like me be legally prohibited from participating in the political life of the country? request In this sense, I am just starting to live, and before that there was no time, work, you know, was not up to politics. Confucius was right: politics is for those over 60.
                2. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 23 January 2021 11: 45
                  -2
                  Quote: Boris55
                  Enough, don't hesitate. The siloviki are on the side of the president.

                  Give them a minimum wage, or at least 17 thousand (middle class) and see which side they will be on.
                  1. cormorant
                    cormorant 23 January 2021 12: 57
                    +17
                    Do you only get minimum wages? In general, there is no connection between the size of the minimum wage and the number of unrest in the world. In France, Germany, the minimum wage is much higher than ours. Is there less pogroms? What's going on in the United States with its second largest economy in the world. Maybe something else here?
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 23 January 2021 13: 05
                      -11%
                      Quote: cormorant
                      In general, there is no connection between the size of the minimum wage and the number of unrest in the world.

                      Do you know how the US police went on strike 100 years ago on a paltry salary? It is because of her, dear.
                    2. cormorant
                      cormorant 23 January 2021 13: 47
                      +13
                      First, it is not entirely appropriate to compare what happened 100 years ago and the events of today. Secondly, while there was no US police as such. Each state had its own sheriff, its own salary, minimum wages, etc. I do not know how much the security officials receive, but I am firmly convinced that their salaries should be, on average, an order of magnitude higher than other state employees. In the United States, the police receive high salaries. Did they help a lot during the pogroms involving blacks? Maybe the US has more order on the streets? They have more people in their prisons than we did during our Stalinist repressions. Is this the quality of the highly paid US police?
                    3. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 23 January 2021 13: 51
                      -8
                      Quote: cormorant
                      They have more people in their prisons than we did during our Stalinist repressions. Is this the quality of the highly paid US police?

                      This is the quality of US unemployment. And we are striving there.
                    4. cormorant
                      cormorant 23 January 2021 14: 01
                      +5
                      Maria Butina can comment on the unemployed prisoners. By the way, unemployment in the United States even now jumps into a pandemic about 10%, before that it was generally less than 5%.
                    5. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 23 January 2021 14: 04
                      -7
                      Quote: cormorant
                      By the way, unemployment in the United States even now jumps into a pandemic about 10%, before that it was generally less than 5%.

                      Yeah, they just register all the unemployed.
                3. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 23 January 2021 14: 01
                  -9
                  Heh, an order of magnitude higher! These bums will only be for. They go shopping, catch those who do not wear muzzles.
              3. sniperino
                sniperino 24 January 2021 12: 34
                -1
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                how the US police went on strike 100 years ago, receiving a paltry salary
                Again, you do not see the difference between money and beliefs: going on strike because of a low salary and going over to the side of your opponent / opponent is DIFFERENT. They did not begin to smash stalls and rob banks, but went on strike.
              4. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 24 January 2021 12: 42
                -2
                Quote: sniperino
                Again, don't see the difference between money and belief

                Well, beliefs will change, in the same Boston police there were enough cadres sympathetic to the socialists.
      2. Bar1
        Bar1 24 January 2021 00: 00
        0
        Quote: Boris55
        Does the people have the right to express their dissatisfaction with the actions of the authorities - yes, but only on legal grounds.


        Right is the will of the ruling class, clothed in law
        Lenin


        so usually the one with the most rights is right.
    2. Rubi0
      Rubi0 23 January 2021 11: 24
      +10
      Why are you holding a meeting if there are elections? Wait for the elections or are you citizens of the banana republic, a monkey without intelligence?
  2. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 23 January 2021 09: 44
    +32
    Quote: Boris55
    but the prohibition against the fighters against the state should be closed access to budget places in universities,

    1. Cosm22
      Cosm22 23 January 2021 10: 36
      -22%
      To begin with, you would have figured out the terminology, Mr. Lipchanin.
      They would clarify who the "fighters against the state" are. And what is "revolution". Is this good or bad.
      Otherwise, you can even get cited before sedition.
      And all honest people will understand what the events of 1917 were like. When a handful of outlawed people through an armed coup overthrew the body of power chosen by the Russian people - the Constituent Assembly - and then usurped it. And then for 70 years we were told that it was done correctly. Which is good.
      So why then it was good, but today it suddenly became bad? Why earlier it was possible and even necessary to overthrow the government, but today you cannot even think?
      Why, when in 1917 the power of the rich was thrown off, it was right, but today it is not? Or do we have no distinction between rich and poor today? Or do we all receive 2 million rubles a day today? And outside the window is the kingdom of social justice? And we don't have rich people who are tightly occupying the lines of the Forbes list? There are no beggars and disadvantaged people, for whose medicines we collect text messages from the whole world?
      These are the quotes that you have posted provide a theoretical basis for the fact that the events of 1917 were a historical mistake. For any revolution, as can be understood from such quotes, is evil.
      You would be more careful with such quotations. For they give rise to doubts in the minds of people.
      Hooray patriots who started a campaign to erect monuments to Comrade Stalin (far from the last person in the rehearsals of 1917), this is unlikely to like it.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 23 January 2021 10: 41
        +4
        Quote: Cosm22
        You would first understand the terminology,

        Well, where did you see my terminology?
        1. Cosm22
          Cosm22 23 January 2021 10: 49
          -18%
          Do you need to point your finger to the word "revolution" in quotation marks?
          And explain in what cases quotes are put?
          So this is not for me, for this - to school.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 23 January 2021 11: 08
            +8
            Quote: Cosm22
            Do you need to point your finger to the word "revolution" in quotation marks?

            Actually there is about the revolution in China
            And explain in what cases quotes are put?

            So I can't remake someone else's poster
            I just said that I completely agree with him.
          2. Cosm22
            Cosm22 23 January 2021 11: 25
            -15%
            So it is precisely that sometimes you need to be more careful with quotes, I am hinting.
            By the way, do you agree with what? That Stalin and Lenin were wrong when they started THINKING about revolution?
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 23 January 2021 10: 44
      +18
      a handful of outlawed people through an armed coup overthrew the body of power chosen by the Russian people - the Constituent Assembly - and then usurped it

      First, the Bolsheviks were the second largest party in the Constituent Assembly, and not at all a bunch of outlaws. Secondly, the Social Revolutionaries were the first. That is, they are the same socialists who simply have a different view of its implementation. So, alas, Russia in the elections to the Constituent Assembly for the most part voted for SOCIALISM .. And the dispersal of the meeting is just a showdown between different factions of socialists. You need to know the history of your country, and not repeat liberal propaganda ...
      1. Cosm22
        Cosm22 23 January 2021 11: 12
        -26%
        Yes of course.
        That is why the Bolsheviks (I clarify - the party that was outlawed in the Russian Empire), who were in the minority in relation to the Socialist-Revolutionaries in the US, destroyed this majority (if this act is not usurpation - then what?) and demonstrations of workers (for which they have recently been campaigning) and massacred a mass of people during the dispersal of the demonstrations of the disaffected.
        According to today's laws, such an act is qualified as an attempt on the power. And the Bolshevik party itself would be called a bunch of agents of foreign influence.
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 23 January 2021 11: 22
          +14
          AKP: 279 seats RSDLP (B): 159 seats Local socialists: 103 seats PNS: 32 seats RSDLP (M): 22 seats TNSP: 6 seats National parties: 68 seats Right-wing parties: 10 seats Others: 28 seats

          Have you seen a lot of cadets here? Once again, this is a showdown between socialists of different factions, nothing more. The Bolsheviks won in all major cities, the Social Revolutionaries in the countryside. And since then there were noticeably more peasants - hence the alignment. If the Bolsheviks had not dispersed the Constituent Assembly, it would still be socialism in Russia. Just a little different. And it is not a fact that it is more correct and better. So what - what do you care about those events? Your sympathizers were in flight anyway ..

          An attempt on power, you say? And how does the shooting of the White House and the dispersal of the Congress of People's Deputies and the Supreme Soviet of the Russian Federation qualify? And the participants and initiators themselves are not a bunch of agents of foreign influence? No? Why? Why such a one-sided view of the world? By the way, they are still at the helm of the country.

          I am already silent about the obvious and flagrantly illegal usurpation of power, which is popularly called zeroing ...
        2. Cosm22
          Cosm22 23 January 2021 12: 19
          -9
          The shooting of the DB can only be qualified as a coup d'etat and nothing else. You cannot shoot tanks at the legislative power of the country.
          As for zeroing, I have big doubts about the legality of what happened.
          But I am interested in another question.
          Why is it possible and necessary to overthrow the government and break the state system in one historical epoch, because it turns out to be a blessing for the people, this is a revolution?
          And you can't do it in another. The very word "revolution" is put in quotation marks and becomes abusive.
          Why is that? Where is the criterion?
          Is it only that now we are at the trough, and we cannot be touched?
        3. paul3390
          paul3390 23 January 2021 13: 04
          +3
          A revolution is a change in the ruling class. Everything else is a coup. Socialist revolution - takes place in favor of the majority of the population, that is, the working people. Bourgeois - in favor of a handful of thieves and exploiters. This is the criterion.

          What, for example, is now trying to pull off the bulk of the company - this is a bourgeois coup, which has nothing to do with us, the people ..

          How do you share wars, for example? Why is the Patriotic War - fair and popular from the point of view of the people of Russia, but for example the First World War - not? So here too - it all depends on who benefits from what is happening .. From the point of view of a bourgeois or a nobleman - the Great October Revolution was of course a terrible injustice. And from the point of view of the worker? A peasant? Farmhouse?
        4. Cosm22
          Cosm22 23 January 2021 13: 23
          -11%
          Great!
          So much so that I even have to quote you: "So here too - it all depends on who benefits from what is happening."
          And who benefits from what is happening today? From banning rallies, demonstrations, reposts, criticism of the authorities?
          Can you announce the list of beneficiaries from the ban on all revolutions?
          And it turns out that the matter is only in your benefit? In commercialism, in money-grubbing?
          Here it is, Mikhalych!
          I myself would never have guessed before. Thank you.
        5. paul3390
          paul3390 23 January 2021 13: 27
          +7
          And in your opinion-humanity is guided exclusively by idealism or what ?? belay How old are you? what

          Naturally, the ruling class always benefits, but it is the big bourgeoisie. Therefore, it stifles any opposition to its criminal activity. Is this a revelation for you?
        6. Cosm22
          Cosm22 23 January 2021 13: 39
          -6
          For me, just not.
          I am afraid this will be a revelation for jingoistic patriots who believe that an ideal political system has been built in Russia and do not want to change anything. For this act is illegal, immoral and in general it is the machinations of the State Department and foreign agents.
        7. paul3390
          paul3390 23 January 2021 13: 48
          +9
          Any change of government is illegal and immoral from the point of view of the previous one. laughing

          Therefore, I say - there is exactly one criterion who will benefit from this change. And from whose point of view to consider this event. Since I am a communist by conviction, for me personally, the overthrow of the current dictatorship of the oligarchy is undoubtedly an extremely charitable and just thing. But I have no doubt that, let's say, Putin has exactly the opposite point of view. wink
  3. NKT
    NKT 23 January 2021 23: 42
    0
    A revolution is the same coup. Why invent something else? Or according to the principle “this is different”?
    The Bolsheviks called him so among themselves - a coup, up to 26-27gg.

    Lenin, in his speeches, often flashes phrases coup / revolution.

    Lenin's speech at the Petersburg Council of R. and S. D. October 26, 1917).

    Comrades! Workers and Peasants revolution, about the necessity of which the Bolsheviks were talking all the time, has come to pass.
    What is the significance of this worker and peasant revolution? First of all, the meaning of this coup consists in the fact that we will have a Soviet government, our own organ of power, without any participation of the bourgeoisie.

    And Stalin's article is even titled like this
    "October coup and the national question".

    Great worldwide importance Oktyabrsky coup is mainly that it:
    1) expanded the scope of the national question, turning it from a private question of the struggle against national oppression in Europe into a general question of the liberation of oppressed peoples, colonies and semi-colonies from imperialism
  4. nickname7
    nickname7 24 January 2021 13: 44
    0
    A revolution is the same coup. Why invent something else
    No one invents history is written by the winners.
  5. three
    three 23 January 2021 13: 16
    +5
    Interesting ... Both are right. But now all disputes on such topics are throwing between right and left opportunism (Kautsky or Trotsky), since in our time, private ownership of the means of production is not denied even in China (I will not say anything about the Communist Party of the Russian Federation), which means that the social revolution is canceled. The maximum is a coup ... In the end, a revolutionary situation is brewing, but the tops are still holding out, but the budget has already become deficit, since revenues are leaking out (for example, Deripaska and K), i.e. there is not enough money to resist and it is a matter of time. Which way will we go? Here the word is for the Russian peasant ... not for the bulk, not for the Jews, not for the Kasparovs ... The peasant will get up, gouge everything, as usual, and then as God willing ...
  6. paul3390
    paul3390 23 January 2021 13: 30
    +9
    private ownership of the means of production is not denied even in China (I will not say anything about the Communist Party of the Russian Federation), which means that the social revolution is canceled.

    And once again - in China, the NEP, just stretched out for a longer time. No social revolution is required there, for the Communist Party is at the helm, acting in the interests of the country and the people. And tightly controlling the bourgeoisie. Do not believe me - read how such a cult figure as Jack Ma is severely flattened, as soon as he forgot about it for a second ..
  7. three
    three 23 January 2021 14: 18
    -4
    In China - not NEP, but a strategy enshrined in amendments to the Constitution, but not the essence, we are not talking about China ... About Russia, there will be a coup, a matter of time ... Six months, a year, three ... And it's not about Western technologies ... The same Marx considered the revolution in Russia impossible. The point is in the Russian (not Russian, but - Russian) mentality, and this is genetics.
  8. paul3390
    paul3390 23 January 2021 14: 27
    +3
    I will say more - Ilyich himself wrote in 1916 that he would not live to see the socialist revolution .. And how it turned out to be Evon .. But Lenin's head was not like us, nonesh ..
  9. three
    three 23 January 2021 14: 30
    +5
    So all the troubles are due to the fact that the classics were forgotten, after all, Lenin and Marx spelled out everything, no - give them Camus.
  10. nickname7
    nickname7 24 January 2021 13: 41
    0
    outlawed party in the Russian Empire

    What laws are you talking about? After the overthrow of the king, laws ceased to exist. No, and no trial. All subsequent events were interregnum, chaos.
  • Crabio
    Crabio 23 January 2021 12: 08
    +6
    Remarkably simple. And .... in February 1917 was not a coup d'etat? I find it funny when today February 1917 is called a "revolution" and October - suddenly - a "coup". This is very strange and does not stand up to any criticism. The coup took place in February. That's where we need to start. To start.
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 23 January 2021 13: 51
      +8
      I'll tell you more - for about 10 years the Bolsheviks called the October Revolution quite officially the October Revolution. And only when it became clear that a change in the ruling class really took place - it became a revolution ..
  • sniperino
    sniperino 24 January 2021 12: 46
    0
    Quote: Cosm22
    When a handful of outlawed people through an armed coup overthrew the body of power chosen by the Russian people - the Constituent Assembly - and then usurped it. And then for 70 years we were told that it was done correctly. Which is good.
    So why then it was good, but today it suddenly became bad?
    Today you were told that it was not good then, and now. But you don't want to listen to this. Therefore, it is time to add a very quick deed to a kind word, as in the army, by definition of a film ensign.
  • nickname7
    nickname7 24 January 2021 13: 39
    0
    When a bunch of outlawed people through an armed coup overthrew the government chosen by the Russian people

    Such ka, you had a peaceful rich RI, and suddenly a handful appeared that overthrew everyone, this handful apparently destroyed the mammoths and cut off the head of Marie Antoinette.

    The provisional government, after the overthrow of the commander-in-chief during the war, which symbolizes the idiocy of those leaders, received power and carte blanche, but they flushed their chance down the toilet, by stupid decrees, which is only decree 1 on the election of commanders in the army, the army fled, deserters filled the capital , six months later, RI collapsed, disintegrated, the Bolsheviks are the point of crystallization of the new state.
    We are traditionally fixated on revolutions, but there is a much better doctrine "Controlled chaos" according to which color revolutions and coups are organized.

    Why earlier it was possible and even necessary to overthrow the government, but today you cannot even think?

    Because the communists were in power, and now socialism is anathema and is practically a dirty word, today capital rules, so it's not fond of touching the rich.

    Why earlier it was possible and even necessary to overthrow the government, but today you cannot even think?

    And this is a strange paradox, anti-Soviet people do not accept everything related to the Soviet regime and even refuse to study positive organizational experience, for example, what is workers 'and peasants' councils
    There is an opinion that the modern so-called opposition is a distraction of the population from dangerous methods for the authorities, they say, just a little bit, for the authorities it is not dangerous, the main thing is not to touch the oligarchy.

    when in 1917 the power of the rich was thrown off, it was right, but today it is not?

    Again, you don’t understand what kind of events happened then, the government did not become due to the collapse of the Republic of Ingushetia, the collapse was provoked by the First World War, if it were not for the last tsar would easily suppress any discontent with the help of a sufficiently strong state apparatus, but the state apparatus could not fulfill its functions due to the severe economic crisis, hyperinflation, lack of bread and invasions of thousands of dithers, you do not have a crisis.
    According to the doctrine of controlled chaos, the system cannot be reformed while it is strong, first the system must be broken so that chaos ensues, then there are points of exit of their chaos, for example, feudalism or capitalism, in 17 they left chaos into socialism. In 91, through internal decay and partial chaos, capitalism emerged.
    Today's rich do not want to be thrown off, with the help of the control of the state apparatus, the rich will suppress any threat.
    There are no beggars and disadvantaged people, for whose medicines we collect text messages from the whole world?

    In the west, by the way, the rich felt a threat in the form of a union and adopted reforms from above to redistribute part of the wealth to the bottom through a progressive tax, cards and benefits to the poor, through the construction of houses, they say, a person who has his own house and two cars will not go to overthrow the power. In the Russian Federation, the rich do not feel threatened, therefore, they distribute wealth in their favor.
  • Professor
    Professor 23 January 2021 11: 05
    -19%
    Quote: Lipchanin
    Quote: Boris55
    but the prohibition against the fighters against the state should be closed access to budget places in universities,


    It is not enough to exclude the talented, courageous, thinking and have their own opinion from universities. They must be deprived of their citizenship and expelled from the Russian Federation. Desirable to Israel.

    PS
    We will accept everyone. hi
    1. lopvlad
      lopvlad 23 January 2021 11: 45
      +9
      Quote: Professor
      We will accept everyone.


      Israel itself is still not accepted by the neighboring countries.
      1. Professor
        Professor 23 January 2021 11: 52
        -18%
        Quote: lopvlad
        Quote: Professor
        We will accept everyone.


        Israel itself is still not accepted by the neighboring countries.

        1. This is not true. In addition to Lebanon and Syria, the rest of us have peace, friendship and gum.
        2. This did not prevent Israel from developing dynamically and prospering.
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 23 January 2021 12: 24
      +2
      You have that heaven, and suddenly the pipe will fly from Gaza. There are places better than the Canary Islands, for example, I liked it there. The Spanish girls are beautiful, the wine is cheap. Just work, don't be lazy, blooper.
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  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 23 January 2021 12: 47
    +3
    Take Navalny first, and the rest of the load. In Sochi, you can walk in formation along the embankment. What can I say from you, even combat dolphins are running. In 2008, one of them frolicked with vacationers. He had a tattoo on his side that he was the property of the Israeli Navy, and They figured out a deserter. Today it is warm, young people are skating and not protesting, even Armenian friends. How far they are from protestors. And why was Yitzhak Rabin shot?
  • Mimoxod
    Mimoxod 23 January 2021 13: 41
    -1
    Tyafkan of a Semitic and a traitor to the Motherland, which taught you to speak Russian, but did not learn to think like a goat, sorry, a slave of Western paradise, in many respects doubtful laughing , USA, this is goat-bearded for you, will show by its example how your Anglo-Saxon world is falling laughingAnd you are all hangers and wasalls of America, you will stay with carrots instead of ki laughing
    Quote: Professor
    So we will accept your "troublemakers" too. And you will walk in formation.
  • Bolt cutter
    Bolt cutter 23 January 2021 13: 16
    +4
    We will accept everyone.
    And get maidan laughing .
    1. Professor
      Professor 23 January 2021 13: 28
      -5
      Quote: Bolt Cutter
      We will accept everyone.
      And get maidan laughing .

      We will not get it. Our power changes in elections. This time. We are allowed to demonstrate even in the most severe quarantine. These are two. Do you want to blow off some steam? Go meet.

      PS
      But Navalny (more precisely, FBK) would not hurt us. It seems that corruption is gaining momentum in our country.
      1. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 23 January 2021 13: 46
        +5
        corruption is gaining momentum in our country.
        Navalny creates the appearance of fighting corruption because he wants to participate in it (corruption). He himself is the same, if not worse.
      2. Professor
        Professor 23 January 2021 13: 50
        -2
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        corruption is gaining momentum in our country.
        Navalny creates the appearance of fighting corruption because he wants to participate in it (corruption). He himself is the same, if not worse.

        We just lack such "visibility". The prosecutor's office will have something to do.
      3. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 23 January 2021 14: 04
        +3
        Take it for yourself. He really was a Russian nationalist before, but if he warms up, he becomes a mother Zionist wink ... The main thing is to feed well yes .
      4. Professor
        Professor 23 January 2021 14: 52
        0
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        Take it for yourself. He really was a Russian nationalist before, but if he warms up, he becomes a mother Zionist wink ... The main thing is to feed well yes .

        86% of all repatriates from the Russian Federation are not Jews. We are more interested in your students, but let's take Navalny as well.
      5. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 23 January 2021 14: 55
        0
        and let's take Navalny.
        You will cut wassat ?
      6. Professor
        Professor 23 January 2021 14: 56
        +1
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        and let's take Navalny.
        You will cut wassat ?

        No.
      7. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 23 January 2021 14: 57
        0
        That, even twice conditionally you will not belay ?
      8. Professor
        Professor 23 January 2021 15: 15
        +3
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        That, even twice conditionally you will not belay ?

        No.

        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        86% of all repatriates from the Russian Federation are not Jews
        Then they are not repatriates, but ordinary immigrants.

        Repatriates. According to the "Law of Return".
      9. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 23 January 2021 15: 17
        +5
        Where do they "return"? Jews, of course, to the homeland of their ancestors. And the non-Jews? Just wondering.
        And you won't like Navlny, you have to work and pay taxes. And you won't divorce anyone for donations - all around there are Jews smile , no matter how they themselves have been bred good
      10. Professor
        Professor 23 January 2021 15: 22
        0
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        Where do they "return"? Jews, of course, to the homeland of their ancestors. And the non-Jews? Just wondering.
        And you won't like Navlny, you have to work and pay taxes. And you won't divorce anyone for donations - all around there are Jews smile , no matter how they themselves have been bred good

        To the homeland of their ancestors, however.

        Article 4 aleph.
        Family members' rights:
        https://knesset.gov.il/laws/ru/lawofreturn_ru.htm
        aleph). The rights of a Jew under this law, and the rights of a repatriate under the "Law on Citizenship (1952)", as well as rights of a repatriate in accordance with all other legislative acts, are also granted to a child and a grandson of a Jew, a spouse / wife of a Jew and a spouse / wife of children, and grandson of a Jew;
      11. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 23 January 2021 15: 30
        0
        That is, Jews and their family members. Nothing worth mentioning in this article.
      12. Professor
        Professor 23 January 2021 15: 34
        0
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        Nothing worth mentioning in this article.

        ?
      13. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 23 January 2021 15: 38
        +2
        They do not flee from the uncomfortable, hungry, cold Russia, as you are trying to expose, but go to live in Israel, feeling their involvement in it. So Latvians, who were born and raised in Canada, left to live in Latvia - this did not mean that everything is terribly bad in Canada.
      14. Professor
        Professor 23 January 2021 16: 04
        -3
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        They do not flee from the uncomfortable, hungry, cold Russia, as you are trying to expose, but go to live in Israel, feeling their involvement in it.

        You made me laugh. They just run so much "feeling their involvement in him" that they continue to walk demonstratively with crosses around their necks.

        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        So Latvians, who were born and raised in Canada, left to live in Latvia - this did not mean that everything is terribly bad in Canada.

        So the Latvians, and here are Jews 14% of all who arrived. But we don't mind. And we also call to go.
  • Bolt cutter
    Bolt cutter 23 January 2021 14: 59
    +2
    86% of all repatriates from the Russian Federation are not Jews
    Then they are not repatriates, but ordinary immigrants.
  • Albert1988
    Albert1988 23 January 2021 17: 29
    +3
    Quote: Bolt Cutter
    Navalny creates the appearance of fighting corruption because he wants to participate in it (corruption). He himself is the same, if not worse.

    He is already participating - he does not hide that he works for Zimin, the founder of Beeline.
    Now tell me - how is it possible in Russia to be such a big businessman, who rose in the 90s, and at the same time be free from corruption?
    Interestingly, is Navalny investigating the corruption of Zimin and his entourage?

    And yet - in some mysterious way, in Navalny's investigations there is not a word about people associated with Alfa Bank ...
    "Alfa Bank is the fairest bank in the world!" negative
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 23 January 2021 17: 01
    +4
    Quote: Professor
    We will not get it. Our power changes in elections. This time. We are allowed to demonstrate even in the most severe quarantine. These are two. Do you want to blow off some steam? Go meet.

    Here go and hold a meeting. You have Netanyahu a thief and a corrupt official. And at home, we ourselves will somehow figure it out.
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 23 January 2021 16: 38
    +3
    Quote: Professor
    To exclude from universities talented, courageous, thinking and having their own opinion

    What's the problem? If they are, then they will break through.
  • Albert1988
    Albert1988 23 January 2021 17: 26
    +5
    Quote: Professor
    It is not enough to exclude the talented, courageous, thinking and have their own opinion from universities. They must be deprived of their citizenship and expelled from the Russian Federation. Desirable to Israel.

    I was just in graduate school, when in the 12th these "smart and courageous" went to the swamp - I saw a lot of them at Moscow State University, such "smart-and-courageous with their own opinion" - I'll tell you - no one more stupid , lazy, unwilling to do anything besides aimless parties, than these "smart-and-courageous" I have never seen before or after ... And more cowardly too - fear of how they were afraid of the slightest responsibility for their actions, especially as one cheerful uncle then put a rumor into the student chats of Moscow State University that all the bogies would be expelled)))) Oh, how they ran, how excited the "smart-and-brave" laughing laughing laughing

    In general, two familiar professors, a leading researcher and four junior researchers then went to Bolotnaya. We went there in enthusiasm - they say, finally, the consolidation of opposition political forces, "let's say our weighty civic word to the stale authorities!"

    Darker clouds returned - "what are these clowns and what, God forbid, will be if they take power?" Especially many warm words were said about Navalny ...

    Py.Sy .: In general, this is a "good" idea - to send all such smart-and-courageous-with-their-own-opinions to Israel - then in 10 years it will turn into an analogue of Syria ... Or the prisons there will be overwhelmed. ..

    Py.Sy: Specifically, according to our long-standing dispute, Prof - here I had the opportunity to talk with some interesting people, talk about technical questions, so I'll write you their answer somehow hi
    1. Professor
      Professor 24 January 2021 11: 39
      -1
      Quote: Albert1988
      Py.Sy .: In general, this is a "good" idea - to send all such smart-and-courageous-with-their-own-opinions to Israel - then in 10 years it will turn into an analogue of Syria ... Or the prisons there will be overwhelmed. ..

      Submit.

      Quote: Albert1988
      Py.Sy: Specifically, according to our long-standing dispute, Prof - here I had the opportunity to talk with some interesting people, talk about technical questions, so I'll write you their answer somehow

      Look forward to.
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 24 January 2021 15: 29
        0
        Quote: Professor
        Submit.

        They don't want to! You have to work there in order to live well)). And not just work, but plow! And the "smart-and-courageous" already live well here on their mother's money, being in the holy conviction that money is something like genetic features - if the parents have it, then it will be transferred to you absolutely without effort)))
      2. Professor
        Professor 24 January 2021 17: 13
        -1
        Quote: Albert1988
        They don't want to! You have to work there in order to live well)). And not just work, but plow!

        Come on. Vaughn MAZ itself does not work and listen to him here 50% of the population are parasites. laughing
      3. Albert1988
        Albert1988 24 January 2021 21: 19
        0
        Quote: Professor
        Vaughn MAZ itself does not work and listen to him here 50% of the population are parasites.

        Well, I don’t know for MAZ, but I know for “my own”, MGushnykh - if someone goes to the square to express their own opinion with placards, that slacker and loafers, who really has their own opinion and wants to do something, they work quietly, because understands - nothing is decided on the squares ...
        By the way, I know a lot of guys who later left for Israel after the asper - and so, there are no "chatters" among them ...
      4. Professor
        Professor 25 January 2021 08: 26
        0
        Quote: Albert1988
        Well, I don’t know for MAZ, but I know for “my own”, MGushnykh - if someone goes to the square to express their own opinion with placards, that slacker and loafers, who really has their own opinion and wants to do something, they work quietly, because understands - nothing is decided on the squares ...

        I will not say anything, otherwise they will be banned again. wink

        Quote: Albert1988
        By the way, I know a lot of guys who later left for Israel after the asper - and so, there are no "chatters" among them ...

        This is their choice. Is not it?
      5. Albert1988
        Albert1988 25 January 2021 20: 18
        0
        Quote: Professor
        I will not say anything, otherwise they will be banned again.

        Well, you are censored))) Censored))) We are educated people!
        Quote: Professor
        This is their choice. Is not it?

        Them, conscious, but the "bogs" and would be glad to get away somewhere - just sit here with sydney! Because "over the hill" it is necessary to work, there is no kind mother and folders with thick wooden pockets ...
  • Revival
    Revival 25 January 2021 10: 52
    +2
    “I was just in graduate school, when in 12th these 'smart and courageous' went to Bolotnaya, two familiar professors, a leading researcher and four junior researchers then went to Bolotnaya.
    I'll tell you - I have never seen anyone more dumb, lazy, unwilling to do anything than these "smart-and-courageous" before or after ... And more cowardly, too - fear, as they were afraid of the slightest responsibility for their actions.

    So it turns out?
    Well, so without double standards.
    Hmm ...
    Well, you have a collectivist, you can hardly see what you could learn with all your desire.
    It's a pity..
  • Petro_tut
    Petro_tut 23 January 2021 23: 49
    0
    What about religion?
  • spolo
    spolo 25 January 2021 08: 41
    0
    On the one hand, it is even useful - look how many hands are required, not to sit in universities. And the army is waiting ... So go for it, shkolota
  • Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 23 January 2021 09: 46
    +4
    Quote: Boris55
    The last "referendum" on amendments to the Constitution showed that the people are for Putin.

    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 23 January 2021 09: 56
      -15%
      Quote: Lipchanin
      Quote: Boris55
      The last "referendum" on amendments to the Constitution showed that the people are for Putin.


      I would like to meet such a "kibalchish boy" alive wassat laughing Ay "kibachiball boys" Where are you besides the Internet? I go out into the street and you are not. From the word in general. Where can you meet a Zaputin on the street? wassat laughing Where is his 80% support in life? Wherever you look. anything except Putin's podderzhki.Visite.Slabo? Show that you are at all. And then besides the Internet, zaputinians and does not smell anywhere request
      1. Quadro
        Quadro 23 January 2021 10: 09
        +9
        Quote: Observer2014
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Quote: Boris55
        The last "referendum" on amendments to the Constitution showed that the people are for Putin.


        I would like to meet such a "kibalchish boy" alive wassat laughing Ay "kibachiball boys" Where are you besides the Internet? I go out into the street and you are not. From the word in general. Where can you meet a Zaputin on the street? wassat laughing Where is his 80% support in life? Wherever you look. anything except Putin's podderzhki.Visite.Slabo? Show that you are at all. And then besides the Internet, zaputinians and does not smell anywhere request

        You generally go to Donetsk, otherwise you ran away to us and you still have the audacity to blame Putin and the Russians. Your lands are dying in the trenches, and you are making comments here. So don't you stink about "other than the Internet".
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 23 January 2021 10: 11
          -26%
          Quote: Quadro
          Quote: Observer2014
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Quote: Boris55
          The last "referendum" on amendments to the Constitution showed that the people are for Putin.


          I would like to meet such a "kibalchish boy" alive wassat laughing Ay "kibachiball boys" Where are you besides the Internet? I go out into the street and you are not. From the word in general. Where can you meet a Zaputin on the street? wassat laughing Where is his 80% support in life? Wherever you look. anything except Putin's podderzhki.Visite.Slabo? Show that you are at all. And then besides the Internet, zaputinians and does not smell anywhere request

          You generally go to Donetsk, otherwise you ran away to us and you still have the audacity to blame Putin and the Russians. Your lands are dying in the trenches, and you are dabbling with cosmetics here. So don't you stink about "other than the Internet".

          In general, as always. There is no one on the street. Only on the Internet and in elections you can meet a zaputintsy. With his 80% support? laughing wassat
          1. Achilles
            Achilles 23 January 2021 11: 01
            +2
            Quote: Observer2014
            In general, as always. There is no one on the street. Only on the Internet and in elections you can meet a zaputintsy. With his 80% support?

            They also thought so on the swamp, the organizers were found and collected a large amount for Putin and now it will also be there, if necessary
          2. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 23 January 2021 11: 16
            +4
            Quote: Observer2014
            In general, as always. There is no one on the street

            How is anyone? belay Full of people
            can be found zaputintsy.

            I've read YOUR comments and answers from other members of the forum, no one has ever called YOU
            You insult every other time
            Do you have such a manual, when there are no arguments, use a "confused"
          3. VORON538
            VORON538 23 January 2021 12: 09
            +1
            But there you can immediately see the puppy! hi
        2. VORON538
          VORON538 23 January 2021 12: 08
          -1
          You say in Russian, observer: to your homeland, to your fellow countrymen !!! Or did you pro-Maidan your Ukraine, now you got to muddle the waters with us? That Don’t live in the DPR? Are you sitting out in Sochi? I am sincerely sorry that I am not a resident of this beautiful city, I live in Blago! angry
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 23 January 2021 10: 12
      0
      Quote: Observer2014
      I would like to meet such a "kibalchish boy" alive

      I do not advise
      Wherever you look. anything except Putin's support

      Already supported in the elections and in the referendum
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 23 January 2021 10: 33
        -14%
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Quote: Observer2014
        I would like to meet such a "kibalchish boy" alive

        I do not advise
        Wherever you look. anything except Putin's support

        Already supported in the elections and in the referendum

        Why? Is there 80% more health or 80% more health? wassat laughing Hahaha !! That meeting with such is zero? It is clear what to poison
        you can anyone. Well, or shoot on the bridge. Where is the massive support for Putin ?! Apart from the Internet and elections, it does not exist. request Grannies under the entrance have not drowned for him for a long time laughing And that says a lot wink
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 23 January 2021 10: 44
          +4
          Quote: Observer2014
          It is clear what to poison
          anyone can.

          Well, they have already been poisoned twice with a BATTLE poisonous substance.
          And then they saved their lives and gave the Germans for treatment.
          For a long time no one is funny from this delirium
          By the way, the basement insulted the doctors who saved his life.
        2. Observer2014
          Observer2014 23 January 2021 11: 09
          -19%
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Quote: Observer2014
          It is clear what to poison
          anyone can.

          Well, they have already been poisoned twice with a BATTLE poisonous substance.
          And then they saved their lives and gave the Germans for treatment.
          For a long time no one is funny from this delirium
          By the way, the basement insulted the doctors who saved his life.

          In general, Navalny was created by right of birth in spite of Putin. One is of normal height, looks great. The wife is beautiful and faithfully looks powerful like a cool cut. The second thing is that there is a bow on the side. wassat Which one is who?
        3. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 23 January 2021 13: 18
          +1
          One of normal height, looks great.
          And the second got the well-deserved nickname shisyan sad ... Why was he so named, you know?
        4. Dart2027
          Dart2027 23 January 2021 16: 42
          +3
          Quote: Observer2014
          The second is generally a devil as a bow on the side

          Just a master of sports in judo and sambo, he served in the KGB.
    3. cormorant
      cormorant 23 January 2021 12: 47
      -1
      The fact of the matter is that those who are against it, sit at home, enjoy the weekend after the working week, walk or take care of children. Do you want the street carnage to begin? For what, for the sake of a beautiful picture for the Western media? What will you achieve with these pogroms that Navalny will be released? I don't understand what you are trying to achieve, regime change? What nonsense!
  • Svarog
    Svarog 23 January 2021 10: 18
    -11%
    Quote: Observer2014
    Show that you are at all. And then, apart from the Internet, zaputinians and does not smell anywhere

    Not in the internet zaputintsy just does not smell ... but on the federal media there is really full approval ..
    Here's a guy who regularly conducts surveys on the street ..
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 23 January 2021 10: 38
      -11%
      Quote: Svarog
      Quote: Observer2014
      Show that you are at all. And then, apart from the Internet, zaputinians and does not smell anywhere

      Not in the internet zaputintsy just does not smell ... but on the federal media there is really full approval ..
      Here's a guy who regularly conducts surveys on the street ..

      laughing good
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 23 January 2021 12: 28
        0
        Land and whom did you ride on snowmobiles on Krasnaya Polyana, there are many interesting things besides tourists.
    2. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 23 January 2021 18: 29
      0
      Biased interview. The journalist is not honest.
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 23 January 2021 10: 20
    +7
    Quote: Observer2014
    I go out into the street and you are not.

    What do you ask everyone?
  • Vol4ara
    Vol4ara 23 January 2021 11: 24
    -8
    Quote: Observer2014
    Quote: Lipchanin
    Quote: Boris55
    The last "referendum" on amendments to the Constitution showed that the people are for Putin.


    I would like to meet such a "kibalchish boy" alive wassat laughing Ay "kibachiball boys" Where are you besides the Internet? I go out into the street and you are not. From the word in general. Where can you meet a Zaputin on the street? wassat laughing Where is his 80% support in life? Wherever you look. anything except Putin's podderzhki.Visite.Slabo? Show that you are at all. And then besides the Internet, zaputinians and does not smell anywhere request

    I, too, did not meet a single one, I was about 30 minutes ago on the Nevsky, I planned to see a crowd of thousands of 5 people, in support of Putin, I did not meet a single one.
    Lipchanin, will you come out in support today? The main thing is not to go far from the riot police, people will not regret
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 23 January 2021 20: 35
      +2
      Quote: Vol4ara
      see a crowd of thousands of 5 people in support of Putin,

      And what, the rally was announced in support? belay
      Do I have to go out with posters, urge youngsters to support VVP?
      Or maybe just support the elections and live in peace?
  • Antidote
    Antidote 23 January 2021 16: 51
    -3
    They are all in the Lakhta-2 business center in St. Petersburg, on Optikov Street
  • atalef
    atalef 23 January 2021 10: 05
    -16%
    Quote: Lipchanin
    Quote: Boris55
    The last "referendum" on amendments to the Constitution showed that the people are for Putin.


    good
  • Revival
    Revival 25 January 2021 10: 59
    +2
    Two examples are especially indicative "
    "Workers from the plant", who were going to the swamp, they began to bankrupt the plant in gratitude,
    And the gendarmes with a mournful video all over the country, they say we are for you at the balotnaya, and we were thrown out as waste material .....)))
    Well, that's all later ..
  • Svarog
    Svarog 23 January 2021 09: 57
    -6
    Unlike Janek, Putin has iron Fabergés and he has already proved this more than once in practice. do not wishful thinking.

    Iron faberge? Then I look Rosgvardia organized .., adopted laws about the lack of jurisdiction of myself and friends, reset to zero .. Apparently afraid that the Faberge can be broken.
    And yet, when a person makes a promise to the whole country not to raise the retirement age, and then asks for understanding .. then the Faberge is not visible here .. And when his subordinates fail, all his decrees .. and he is satisfied with them .. in general, what kind of Faberge are we talking about?
    1. Quadro
      Quadro 23 January 2021 10: 06
      +5
      Quote: Svarog
      Unlike Janek, Putin has iron Fabergés and he has already proved this more than once in practice. do not wishful thinking.

      Iron faberge? Then I look Rosgvardia organized .., adopted laws about the lack of jurisdiction of myself and friends, reset to zero .. Apparently afraid that the Faberge can be broken.
      And yet, when a person makes a promise to the whole country not to raise the retirement age, and then asks for understanding .. then the Faberge is not visible here .. And when his subordinates fail, all his decrees .. and he is satisfied with them .. in general, what kind of Faberge are we talking about?

      You, instead of kalyakat that.y rubbish would ask what is the National Guard. Internal troops with military equipment - we do not see or hear. Rosgvardia with police special forces and chopovtsy is bloody. Why don't you croak to the US National Guard? They generally have everything. And I don’t remember that Putin brought 25 thousand guardsmen to Moscow and put them on the floor in the State Duma. You still croak "the authorities are afraid of the people"
    2. Tank hard
      Tank hard 23 January 2021 11: 08
      0
      Quote: Svarog
      Iron faberge? Then I look Rosgvardia organized .., adopted laws about the lack of jurisdiction of myself and friends, reset to zero .. Apparently afraid that the Faberge can be broken.
      And yet, when a person makes a promise to the whole country not to raise the retirement age, and then asks for understanding .. then Faberge is not visible here .. And when his subordinates fail, all his decrees .. and he is happy with them .. in general, what kind of Faberge are we talking about?

      Do you write to your phone from the rally, or are you uncompromisingly fighting "mode" from your sofa? laughing
    3. Svarog
      Svarog 23 January 2021 11: 09
      -5
      Quote: Svarog
      Iron faberge?

      This is in addition ..
    4. Hagen
      Hagen 23 January 2021 12: 44
      +4
      Quote: Svarog
      Apparently afraid that the Faberge might be defeated.

      In fact, for his Fabergés, he has at his disposal a lot of influential and effective structures without the National Guard. The very same Rosgvardia was created just so that in the heat of political polemics it is you and those like you who are not recaptured by these Faberges. You, obviously, in your life have not seen normal mass riots, even on a small scale, except on TV. But since you are an entity resentful of everything related to government, you are not able to understand this simple truth. This is neither good nor bad. Just a fact ...
    5. cormorant
      cormorant 23 January 2021 12: 50
      -1
      Is there an alternative? If this is Navalny, then there are no more questions for you.
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 23 January 2021 10: 44
    -9
    Quote: Boris55
    To the wall not to the wall, but the prohibition against the fighters against the state should be denied access to budgetary places in universities

    What is so weak then? In the old topic about flamethrowers, your like-minded people from flamethrowers suggested shooting demonstrations.
    Quote: Boris55
    Unlike Janek, Putin has iron faberge and he has already proved it more than once in practice

    Sitting in a bunker during a pandemic and showing unwavering composure?
    Do you mean that? Or the recognition of the fascist regime in Ukraine? Or do you mean the situation with the LPNR?
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 24 January 2021 15: 30
    0
    And why only a ban on budgetary universities? And why should medical care be free for screamers and maidans? I do not agree with the policy of the state - pay for all social benefits and guarantees.
  • Revival
    Revival 25 January 2021 03: 51
    +2
    Why do we collect everything for the children for treatment, beat in the chest, so we will accept the amendments and there will be no more of this !?
    And, another hundred years have to wait for the effect, it's clear ...
  • Revival
    Revival 25 January 2021 03: 52
    +1
    Well then, voice that the maximum is a little more than half, even judging by the results of the vote
  • Varyag71
    Varyag71 25 January 2021 07: 48
    -1
    The so-called referendum showed that the authorities do not care about people. Putin seems to have already imagined himself a king.
  • tagil
    tagil 23 January 2021 09: 35
    +14
    Power is needed not so that the country has a paradise (you can please the liberals, at least turn inside out), power in the country is needed so that there is no hell (which you are trying to arrange here).
    1. 210ox
      210ox 23 January 2021 09: 52
      +9
      About hell. Of course, it is not needed categorically. But the authorities start this process. Flirting with liberal organizations and the media, unsuccessful (to put it mildly) decisions in lawmaking and economics. The question of involving youngsters was eight years late. For the life of me, I don't understand, why was the anal allowed into the country? Germany would have completely sheltered him, as well as another tagged geek.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 23 January 2021 10: 01
        +8
        Quote: 210ox
        Germany would have completely sheltered him, as well as another tagged geek.

        Well no. He was thrown out of there, although they did it gracefully
        1. 210ox
          210ox 23 January 2021 10: 38
          +5
          I was so hoping that there would be another Pavlensky (this one is in a psychiatric hospital in France)
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 23 January 2021 10: 48
            +1
            Quote: 210ox
            I was so hoping that there would be another Pavlensky

            You are not alone
            I already got this basement with my lies
            How I hoped he would stay there ...
            But even there he was not needed
          2. VORON538
            VORON538 23 January 2021 12: 17
            +2
            Baba Angela will not be allowed to be jailed or sent to a psychiatric hospital. This is an objective reality. hi And all zaluzhniks are only interested in the navalner. They only do not care about Platoshkin, Kvachkov, Furgal, as they do not care about them and our liberals. And this already says a lot!
      2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 23 January 2021 10: 55
        +1
        Quote: 210ox
        For the life of me, I don't understand, why was the anal allowed into the country?

        I wonder, and on what grounds could he be refused entry?
        1. 210ox
          210ox 23 January 2021 12: 10
          0
          There would be a person, but there is an article. I do not at all like the actions of the authorities at all levels, but I am categorically against arranging a barrack in the country. I repeat once again, the current decision is belated.
          1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 23 January 2021 12: 47
            -3
            Quote: 210ox
            but also arrange barracks the country is strongly against it.

            interesting disclaimer)

            So after all, I think you are for barracks, not?
            1. 210ox
              210ox 23 January 2021 12: 55
              0
              For a barrack for some especially gifted. But definitely against the mess. And this is an OS clause on the phone, and I haven't checked what I wrote.
            2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 23 January 2021 17: 51
              -3
              Quote: 210ox
              For a barrack for some especially gifted. But definitely against the mess.

              I understand, I understand.
              The bogus snout can rely on you. And yesterday's decree of the benefactor also canceled the age limit. Pralna - nefig young hungry Voltaireans in the power to do - old tame marasmatics are more reliable. They will gnaw their throats for their good, acquired by overwhelming bureaucratic labor and assigned to their wives, elderly mothers, grand-nephews, etc., while the face of Putin is on their icon. And they, if you know, consider you rubbish. True, they use the polite word "electorate". Keep it up.
            3. 210ox
              210ox 24 January 2021 08: 22
              -4
              Correctly hungry Voltaireans in power have nothing to do. They were already there. They staged terror during the French Revolution and messed up our affairs in the early 90s.
  • tagil
    tagil 23 January 2021 11: 39
    +2
    According to the law, we cannot refuse to let our citizen into the country. But for close, open communication with the secret services of foreign countries hostile to us, we simply have to imprison (since there is not enough spirit to put the spirit against the wall) for treason.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 23 January 2021 12: 13
      +3
      Maybe it really is. Since we are so and so, bad guys, so do the bad thing (depending on how you look at it). All the same, political relations with the West are completely ruined.
      1. tagil
        tagil 23 January 2021 13: 20
        +3
        Yes, we just now have to punish him and his entire gang in the most cruel way, showing all the other liberals, here with us, what will be done to them in case of anything, and in the west, that interference in our affairs will be stopped immediately and without mercy. And this law, though belated, should not be the only one and the terms should be tightened. The country needs to be protected, not the specific system in the country, but the country itself, which they are trying to simply destroy. Hitler at least spoke openly about who we are to him and what he would do to us in case of victory. And these "democratic" creatures, hiding behind their chatter and tolerance, will do the same to us as the Nazis did, only even worse.
  • Cron
    Cron 23 January 2021 09: 54
    +2
    Power is needed not so that the country has a paradise (you can please the liberals, at least turn inside out), power in the country is needed so that there is no hell (which you are trying to arrange here).

    You don’t understand, when gas cost 70 kopecks, with the bloody Yanyka, it was the people's anger, and when it became ten more expensive, it was already the will of the people. Well this is to fantasies about how people were just driven to the edge
  • lopvlad
    lopvlad 23 January 2021 10: 57
    +3
    Quote: Stas157
    Power is agonizing


    your master is agonizing behind a big puddle and Russia is finally beginning to defend its state sovereignty at the legislative level, though, unfortunately, not as tough as in the United States.
    By the way, it would not hurt to reduce the administrative responsibility from 16 to 14 years old. And then a citizen's passport must be obtained from the age of 14 and can be responsible for his actions only from the age of 16.
  • musorg
    musorg 23 January 2021 12: 11
    -1
    Don’t get into it, where .......... you shouldn’t meddle.
  • lis-ik
    lis-ik 23 January 2021 17: 35
    0
    Quote: Stas157
    Power is in agony. By going to extreme measures, it shows its helplessness and wild fear even in front of teenagers

    I agree. For the foreseeable period, there was no more hypocritical, greedy, cowardly and vile government in Russia, by the way, Navalny is exactly the same, just torn from the trough.
  • NDR-791
    NDR-791 23 January 2021 09: 02
    +13
    Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?
    List in which place you live badly.
    1. hhhhhhh
      hhhhhhh 23 January 2021 09: 04
      +5
      Maybe the children broke away from tiktoks and learned to read.
    2. Svetlana
      Svetlana 23 January 2021 09: 40
      +4
      His mother doesn't give him money for the last iPhone. That’s bad for him.
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon 23 January 2021 09: 48
      +12
      Quote: NDR-791
      List in which place you live badly.

      He is, apparently, one of those jerks who at Lyokha's gatherings scream about shitty life, holding mobile phones for 70tyr in his hands.
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 23 January 2021 09: 50
        +2
        Guaranteed !!! For 45 minutes and did not answer ... nothing to say. fool
        1. 210ox
          210ox 23 January 2021 13: 02
          +1
          Well, life isn't getting any better. For example, ten years ago, I worked 40 hours a week. And enough for a family. Now I work 56 hours on average, which is the average salary for the country. in 40 kilo rubles.
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 23 January 2021 10: 04
        +4
        Quote: Piramidon
        He is, apparently, one of those jerks who at Lyokha's gatherings scream about shitty life, holding mobile phones for 70tyr in his hands.

    4. VORON538
      VORON538 23 January 2021 12: 21
      -1
      Maybe he doesn't like the ban on gay pride parades in Russia laughing
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 23 January 2021 09: 02
    +7
    Quote: Stas157
    Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?

    that is, do you think it will get better with bulk?
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 23 January 2021 10: 04
      -16%
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      Quote: Stas157
      Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?

      that is, do you think it will get better with bulk?

      And what's wrong with the fact that he organized a smart vote and the thief from Edra began to move everywhere? What's wrong with his investigations .. These actions clearly do not harm the state, rather the opposite .. Let's imagine that there is no Navalny. What will change? Today's thieves will quietly and in a calm atmosphere have fun, and their entertainment leads to the fact that we have no opposition, that the standard of living is only falling, the population is rapidly declining ... and friends are getting richer ..
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 23 January 2021 11: 12
        +6
        Quote: Svarog
        What's wrong with organizing a smart vote?

        And I thought that it was the specialists from the State Department who were organizing, including Lyokha. Well, svarog knows everything better about his own people. laughing
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 23 January 2021 11: 18
          -7
          Quote: Tank Hard
          And I thought that it was the specialists from the State Department who would organize

          It’s over .. all the damned state departments .. we have produced billionaires, corruption and nepotism .. the state department, in your opinion, arranges the gifted children of officials for a high-ranking job .. the state department forces money to offshore .. How easy it is to find a "scapegoat" ..
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 23 January 2021 11: 32
            +7
            Quote: Svarog
            It is over .. all the damned state department .. billionaires we have spawned, corruption and nepotism .. the state department, in your opinion, suits the gifted children of officials for a high-ranking job .. the state department forces money to offshore .. How easy it is to find a "scapegoat"

            They were directly in advisers to the Russian authorities in the post-Soviet period. Do you really know about this? laughing
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 23 January 2021 11: 40
              -5
              They were directly in advisers to the Russian authorities in the post-Soviet period. Do you really know about this? laughing

              I know one thing that nothing is being done for the good of the people, not then not now. And nothing is being done to strengthen the state ... just as they were dependent on the West in everything, they have remained.
              So blaming the "enemy" for all the troubles is stupid ..
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard 23 January 2021 11: 44
                +4
                Quote: Svarog
                I know one thing that nothing is done for the good of the people, not then not now

                If you know, why do you support stupid protests, moreover with the participation of children?
                I know. that there is no good for the people, they only pursue their own goals.
                So why would I support it? to each his own. request
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 23 January 2021 11: 56
                  -3
                  Quote: Tank Hard
                  If you know, why do you support stupid protests, moreover with the participation of children?
                  I know. that there is no good for the people, they only pursue their own goals.
                  So why would I support it? to each his own.

                  I do not support children's participation in protests. And I support the protests, because the authorities must know that the people are sick of their lies, that the country needs changes, that the characters from the crypt have already gotten everyone ... in general, the authorities must understand that the people are tired of enduring.
                  I know. that there is no good for the people, they only pursue their own goals.

                  Yes, the bourgeoisie pursue their own goals and when Navalny comes to power, most likely it will not be better. Since this is one side of the same coin. For this reason, I do not want to see him president. But the authorities must understand that it is impossible to ignore the opinion of the citizens of their country, that lawlessness, corruption, nepotism will not go unpunished, that the people did not tolerate and according to the Constitution is the only source of power .. For this reason, I support the protest. I hope everything is clear.
                2. Tank hard
                  Tank hard 23 January 2021 12: 03
                  0
                  Quote: Svarog
                  And I support the protests,

                  Is it always more comfortable from the couch? wink laughing
                3. Svarog
                  Svarog 23 January 2021 12: 15
                  -5
                  Quote: Tank Hard
                  Quote: Svarog
                  And I support the protests,

                  Is it always more comfortable from the couch? wink laughing

                  I would have brought Platoshkin to protest, supported him with action .. I don’t want to marry Navalny.
              2. VORON538
                VORON538 23 January 2021 12: 24
                0
                And why not svarog himself at the meeting? Everything on the couch is revolutionizing, pseudo-communist forum! lol
              3. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 23 January 2021 17: 37
                -2
                Quote: Svarog
                the country needs changes

                went to the polls?
                who did you vote for?
          2. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 23 January 2021 17: 36
            -1
            Quote: Svarog
            I know one thing that nothing is being done for the good of the people, not then not now.

            then this is when ?!
  • Achilles
    Achilles 23 January 2021 11: 18
    +2
    Quote: Svarog
    Today's thieves will quietly and in a calm atmosphere have fun, and their entertainment leads to the fact that we have no opposition, that the standard of living is only falling, the population is rapidly declining ... and friends are getting richer ..

    Yes, only the whole point is that he himself is a thief and a corrupt official and he is financed from overseas. And his investigations are mostly empty
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 23 January 2021 17: 22
    0
    Quote: Svarog
    What's wrong with his investigations ..

    for starters he is a swindler and a liar, then I am not interested
  • Varyag71
    Varyag71 25 January 2021 10: 08
    +2
    Personally, I am simply shocked how many slaves we have. It is simply incomprehensible to the mind how they protect those who simply live on in public, on the Soviet legacy.
  • hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 23 January 2021 09: 03
    -22%
    those who are for Valenka are worn with Putin as with a written sack.
  • Deniska999
    Deniska999 23 January 2021 09: 04
    +6
    I agree, in many respects a media-ostentatious image.
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 23 January 2021 09: 12
    +10
    Quote: Stas157
    The confused main pain - Bulk. They rush around with him as with a written bag, spreading their phantom fears on the air, refuting by this that no one needs him.

    Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?

    Biden, Macron, Zelensky ........ Navalny are famous people ..
    But what do they ... really ... decide, that is the question? Who is Navalny? Blogger ... That's all. And an ordinary (and albeit "unusual") blogger gathers the country for a rally ... Don't be funny. There are quite serious circles behind Navalny that have considerable resources, connections and plans ... The authorities must fight with them. And Navalny is just Navalny ...
    1. atalef
      atalef 23 January 2021 09: 20
      -31%
      Quote: Doccor18
      Who is Navalny? Blogger ... That's all.

      why only a blogger?
      Quote: Doccor18
      There are quite serious circles behind Navalny who have considerable resources, connections and plans.

      if the authorities had facts about this, believe me, they would have voiced it long ago
      Quote: Doccor18
      And Navalny is just Navalny ...

      he is not just, he is still a person. smile
      1. Mykhalych
        Mykhalych 23 January 2021 09: 32
        +14
        Quote: atalef
        he is not just, he is still a person.

        Navalny is just a criminal, stupid, boor, coward, traitor to the Motherland, an accomplice of foreign special services. Powders the brain of youngsters; I really hope that the zone will explain to him in a clear and varied manner how wrong he is.
        1. atalef
          atalef 23 January 2021 09: 57
          -19%
          Quote: Mykhalych
          Navalny is just a criminal, stupid, boor, coward, traitor to the Motherland, an accomplice of foreign special services

          and that's it? Why so little?
          and also
          1. Mykhalych
            Mykhalych 23 January 2021 10: 00
            +8
            Quote: atalef
            and that's it? Why so little?
            and also

            And (I repeat) everything will be explained to him in the zone. Lucidly.
      2. Genry
        Genry 23 January 2021 09: 49
        +17
        Quote: atalef
        he is not just, he is still a person.

        It is a tool to be thrown away when functionality is lost.
        And rightly so, that he was imprisoned, otherwise they will actually poison him and they will throw shit on all the media in order to move his "Tikhanovskaya".
        1. atalef
          atalef 23 January 2021 09: 58
          -17%
          Quote: Genry
          It is a tool to be thrown away when functionality is lost.

          yes you can't listen to - all the instruments and only Putin fellow
          1. Genry
            Genry 23 January 2021 10: 03
            +10
            Quote: atalef
            yes you can't listen to - all the instruments and only Putin

            And you are looking at the root. We are talking about the state and not any abstract reasoning.
            Putin is bad for Westerners because he opposes them in the destruction of Russia. And Failure is used by them precisely to create a split and confrontation (divide and conquer).
            1. atalef
              atalef 23 January 2021 10: 21
              -17%
              Quote: Genry
              Putin is bad for Westerners because he opposes them in destroying Russia

              Why should someone destroy Russia 7 The hen that lays the golden eggs is not killed.
              1. Genry
                Genry 23 January 2021 10: 47
                +6
                Quote: atalef
                Why would someone destroy Russia? The hen that lays the golden eggs is not killed.

                To also tear off the meat in pieces.
          2. lopvlad
            lopvlad 23 January 2021 12: 11
            0
            Quote: atalef
            and only Putin


            while Putin is moving in a direction to make Russia self-sufficient and sovereign and not a mat of the West controlled by a call from Washington to the people of Russia with him along the way.
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 23 January 2021 09: 38
      +13
      Quote: Doccor18
      There are quite serious circles behind Navalny who have considerable resources, connections and plans ...

      Naturally - Soros, the CIA and MI6. Serious structures are quite enough for themselves ... And they have plans for Russia - hence one and a half thousand miles beyond the horizon ...
      1. atalef
        atalef 23 January 2021 09: 59
        -17%
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Naturally - Soros, the CIA and MI6

        yes, but there are facts?
        Why are they trying to plant him for some kind of forest, and not for cooperation with all these organizations? Or like they are silent because they feel sorry or proof - zero
        ?
        1. aszzz888
          aszzz888 23 January 2021 10: 24
          +5

          atalef (alexander)
          Today, 09: 59
          NEW

          -2
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Naturally - Soros, the CIA and MI6

          yes, but there are facts?
          Aren't you tired of flooding yet? angry
          1. atalef
            atalef 23 January 2021 10: 58
            -8
            Quote: aszzz888
            Aren't you tired of flooding yet?

            why am I not surprised
            Ie ascribe
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Naturally - Soros, the CIA and MI6.

            this is normal, but to the question --- there are facts
            Quote: aszzz888
            not tired of flooding yet?

            So there are facts? If not, sit back and don't .. flood. wink
            1. VORON538
              VORON538 23 January 2021 12: 29
              -2
              Take care of the affairs of your country and don’t stick your nasty nose into the affairs of the Russian state, citizen of izgaIlya! The Palestinians want you there, but Russia doesn’t give you peace of mind, you wipe yourself off here. You didn’t notice that you aren’t welcome to VO for a long time ???
              1. aszzz888
                aszzz888 23 January 2021 12: 40
                +1
                VORON538 (artem)
                Today, 12: 29

                +1
                Take care of the affairs of your country and don’t stick your nasty nose into the affairs of the Russian state, citizen of izgaIlya! The Palestinians want you there, but Russia doesn’t give you peace of mind, you wipe yourself off here. You didn’t notice that you aren’t welcome to VO for a long time ???
                And he doesn’t appear. He is obliged to pour dirt on us, because he was sheltered there, they gave him a piece of matzo, with the condition of working off the grub. This is where it defecates.
              2. atalef
                atalef 23 January 2021 16: 47
                -4
                Quote: VORON538
                Take care of the affairs of your country and do not stick your nasty nose into the affairs of the Russian state, citizen of exile!

                do not distort the name of the state. my citizenship of Raska is no different from yours wink
                Quote: VORON538
                The Palestinians all want you there,

                not us, but knam.
                Quote: VORON538
                if Russia does not give rest, you wipe yourself here.Have you noticed that you have not been welcomed at VO for a long time?

                yes in general on a drum. laughing
          2. Tank hard
            Tank hard 23 January 2021 11: 22
            +4
            Quote: aszzz888
            Aren't you tired of flooding yet?

            So he goes from Israel for Russia sick. Worries about the Russian people. repeat
            1. aszzz888
              aszzz888 23 January 2021 12: 03
              0

              Tank Hard (Daniel von Messer)
              Today, 11: 22
              NEW

              +2
              Quote: aszzz888
              Aren't you tired of flooding yet?

              So he goes from Israel for Russia sick. Worries about the Russian people. feel
              From there. Rather, a fugitive from the USSR.
              And how it experiences))! Without a bucket of slops, it will not calm down, because matzah is not given to fugitives for a gift, it must be worked out. Here it is here and pisses in pairs on Russia. wink
              1. atalef
                atalef 23 January 2021 16: 50
                -3
                Quote: aszzz888
                From there. Rather, a fugitive from the USSR.

                no . I was leaving Russia
                Quote: aszzz888
                ! It will not calm down without a bucket of slop

                why are you? Russia is a great country, smart and worthy of the best people in life, you just have to get rid of the habit of licking in power.
                Quote: aszzz888
                because matzah is not given to fugitives for a gift, it must be worked out.

                laughing
            2. atalef
              atalef 23 January 2021 16: 47
              -3
              Quote: Tank Hard
              So he goes from Israel for Russia sick. Worries about the Russian people.

              Russians live in Russia wink
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard 23 January 2021 16: 55
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                Russians live in Russia

                and Russians no longer live. whether? or are you just dreaming about it? "Palestinian"...
                1. atalef
                  atalef 23 January 2021 17: 03
                  -3
                  Quote: Tank Hard
                  and Russians no longer live.

                  and the Russians are no longer Russians? Russians live in Israel and they are Israelis laughing
                  Quote: Tank Hard
                  or are you just dreaming about it? "Palestinian"...

                  Palestinian? Why, I live in Israel. Palestine is different. Learn materiel.
                2. Tank hard
                  Tank hard 23 January 2021 17: 06
                  +1
                  Quote: atalef
                  Why, I live in Israel

                  and there was Palestine. and then, once and Israel. laughing
                  Russian and they live in Israel and they are Israelis

                  who are the Makarevich and Shenderovich ??! laughing
                  Russian laughing
                3. atalef
                  atalef 23 January 2021 17: 11
                  -3
                  Quote: Tank Hard
                  and there was Palestine. and then again Israel.

                  was Kievan Rus. Krivichi and there are different olgovichi in the northwest region. and then again .. and Russia from sea to sea.
                  belay
                  teach materiel. Israel was when neither Russia nor the more Russians (as a nation) were still in sight.
                  The first reliably dated news about Russia is contained in the Bertin annals and refers to by 839у

                  you are even younger than Islam request , Christianity. and even more so Judaism
                  the Jewish people were formed as a result of the Exodus from Egypt and the adoption of the Law of the Torah at Mount Sinai. The Jews who came to Canaan were divided into 12 tribes ("tribes"), descending from the sons of Jacob-Israel. At the turn of the 2nd - 1st millennium BC. e.
                4. Tank hard
                  Tank hard 23 January 2021 17: 17
                  +1
                  Quote: atalef
                  was Kievan Rus. Krivichi and there are different olgovichi in the northwest region. and then again .. and Russia from sea to sea.

                  you can immediately see how you love Russians. and so hypocritically wrote here that you are worried. however. this attitude of the Israeli is not surprising. The usual thing.
                  Quote: atalef
                  teach materiel. Israel was when neither Russia nor the more Russians (as a nation) were still in sight.

                  yeah. lived in Egypt. was the case. We teach materiel. wink
                  [quote = atalefyou are even younger than Islam [/ quote]
                  Who are you talking about? laughing
  • Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 23 January 2021 13: 24
    +2
    Quote: atalef
    Why are they trying to plant him for some kind of forest, and not for cooperation with all these organizations?

    And we are imprisoned for exactly cooperation with these organizations (see article 276 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation "Espionage") and he does not cooperate - the figure is too small. He's just like a stray dog ​​- they feed him and use him ...
    1. atalef
      atalef 23 January 2021 17: 04
      -3
      Quote: Zoldat_A
      And here they are imprisoned for precisely cooperation with these organizations (see Article 276 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation "Espionage"), but he does not cooperate - the figure is too small.

      you will deal with yourself
      then the CIA and MI6. it does not cooperate
      Quote: Zoldat_A
      He's just like a stray dog ​​- they feed him and use him ...

      but this does not fall under the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation?
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 23 January 2021 17: 22
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        you will deal with yourself
        then the CIA and MI6. it does not cooperate

        I clearly said, in Russian in white
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        He's just like a stray dog ​​- they feed him and use...

        They don't cooperate with a stray dog. She is fed and then allowed on the skin for hats, for example. As an option - to kill the fighting dogs. It doesn't make it easier for a stray dog ​​...
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 23 January 2021 17: 56
        +3
        Quote: atalef
        you will deal with yourself
        then the CIA and MI6. it does not cooperate

        Well this is what I was talking about
        The US Embassy in Russia was aware of all plans for unauthorized actions
        https://topwar.ru/179310-posolstvo-ssha-v-rossii-okazalos-v-kurse-vseh-planov-po-nesankcionirovannym-akcijam.html
        Let's wait - the British Embassy will also blabber.

        What kind of people? Where did they study? Well, they organized something nasty for someone (especially, illegally) - so be quiet, do not talk. No, you have to boast: "This my ears stick out there! "...
  • Konstantin Shevchenko
    Konstantin Shevchenko 23 January 2021 09: 58
    +16
    So with Navalny, no one is fighting. He must answer according to the laws of the Russian Federation like any of its citizens. But the foreign media annoyed me with Navalny, every time they shove me an advertisement for Navalny and with his castle, and so on. Bulk is not bulk, all crooks must be held accountable by law. In order to criticize one must be without logs in the eye. The correct decision is to prohibit schoolchildren and students from going to a rally that does not concern them. Let those who are paid for it and other sofa experts go to the rally. You can also participate as a conscientious and mature citizen.
    1. atalef
      atalef 23 January 2021 10: 24
      -13%
      Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko
      So with Navalny, no one is fighting. He must answer according to the laws of the Russian Federation like any of its citizens.

      Seriously, i.e. the only thief is Navalny?
      Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko
      Bulk is not bulk, all crooks must be held accountable by law.

      but today - you have the only swindler - this is Navalny. By the way, you cannot speak out about others in any way - maybe the rally will be a priori not legal
      Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko
      The correct decision is to prohibit schoolchildren and students from going to a rally that does not concern them.

      but if this rally is for Putin and EP?
      1. Konstantin Shevchenko
        Konstantin Shevchenko 23 January 2021 10: 51
        +5
        Where I live, swindlers are responsible according to the law and it does not matter whether it is an official or just a citizen. I have not heard that Putin and United Russia called schoolchildren and students to a rally in their support. If the UK believes that children should not participate in illegal rallies, then no matter who calls on the United Russia, Putin or other figures, I agree with the UK. And now I have a question for you, what rights does Mr. Navalny protect schoolchildren and students? What requirements should the state decide for schoolchildren and students at this rally?
        1. atalef
          atalef 23 January 2021 16: 45
          0
          Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko
          Where I live, crooks are responsible according to the law and it does not matter whether an official or just a citizen.

          where are you living ?
          Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko
          And now I have a question for you, what rights does Mr. Navalny protect schoolchildren and students?

          it doesn't matter. a person has the right to go to rallies according to his own convictions, without communication. protect it or not.
          He wants to and goes. Who can forbid him 7 This is a free right of any person.
          1. Konstantin Shevchenko
            Konstantin Shevchenko 23 January 2021 17: 56
            -1
            I live in Russia outside the Moscow Ring Road
      2. Tank hard
        Tank hard 23 January 2021 11: 24
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        but today - your only swindler is Navalny

        And you?
        1. aszzz888
          aszzz888 23 January 2021 12: 06
          +1

          Tank Hard (Daniel von Messer)
          Today, 11: 24
          NEW

          +2
          Quote: atalef
          but today - your only swindler is Navalny

          And you?
          It will not answer such uncomfortable questions for him. Because they have more of our thief. They never held anything heavier than a spoon. Knocking on the keyboard does not count.
      3. Sergey Kulikov_3
        Sergey Kulikov_3 23 January 2021 14: 13
        +1
        It seems that the Navalny case is one of the heaps of cases that are going on in the courts, but you only see him, maybe you should change the news selection?
  • Svarog
    Svarog 23 January 2021 10: 06
    -12%
    Quote: Doccor18
    Navalny has quite serious circles that have considerable resources, connections and plans.

    I also tend to think so. Moreover, these circles live in the Kremlin.
    Only now the question arises .. why haven't they been dealt with yet?
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 23 January 2021 11: 25
      +2
      Quote: Svarog
      I also tend to think so. Moreover, these circles live in the Kremlin.

      Svarog seems to know everything ...
      Quote: Svarog
      Only now the question arises .. why haven't they been dealt with yet?

      But no, it turns out not everything ... request
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 23 January 2021 09: 19
    +15
    Quote: Stas157
    You answer me

    is it good when children get involved in riots?
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 23 January 2021 09: 43
      +14
      Quote: Dart2027
      is it good when children get involved in riots?

      This is mean! But along with those who "involve", parents must also be responsible! To collect a fine that way ... dtsat thousand, so they would immediately begin to explain to the children that attending such rallies is fraught with danger!
      1. atalef
        atalef 23 January 2021 10: 03
        -14%
        Quote: Egoza
        This is mean! But along with those who "involve", parents must also be responsible! To collect a fine that way ... dtsat thousand, so they would immediately begin to explain to the children that attending such rallies is fraught with danger!

        when your granddaughter goes with her parents to a rally about the demolition of a playground (the territory of which was given for the construction of some elite house) - rightly let them all be fined a thousand so ... dtsat.
        Quote: Egoza
        would immediately begin to explain to the children that attending such rallies is fraught!

        sure, you have to go to the right rallies
        1. lopvlad
          lopvlad 23 January 2021 12: 23
          +1
          Quote: atalef
          when your granddaughter will go with her parents to a rally about the demolition of the playground


          It does not seem to you that a rally on social issues and a political rally are completely different things. And it is no coincidence that the right to express your political opinion is given along with full responsibility before the law, namely, coming of age (18 or 21 in the West).
          1. atalef
            atalef 23 January 2021 16: 43
            -2
            Quote: lopvlad
            Don't you think that a meeting on social issues and a political meeting are completely different things.

            no, it does not seem that a citizen has the right to speak out on any range of issues, and not only on those convenient for the authorities. My opinion is my right and no one can forbid me to express it.
            Quote: lopvlad
            And it is no coincidence that the right to express one's political opinion is given together with full responsibility before the law, namely, coming of age (18 or 21 in the West).

            nothing like that, in the demonstrations (in the west as you say) everyone has the right to participate.
            by the way. for EP children take part - and that's all ok?
            Some kind of selection is not clear.
        2. Sergey Kulikov_3
          Sergey Kulikov_3 23 January 2021 14: 17
          +3
          So the daughter will lead the parents or the parents will drag the daughter to an illegal rally?
      2. Dart2027
        Dart2027 23 January 2021 10: 17
        +5
        Quote: Egoza
        But along with those who "involve", parents must also be responsible!

        Absolutely right.
    2. atalef
      atalef 23 January 2021 09: 53
      -15%
      Quote: Dart2027
      Quote: Stas157
      You answer me

      is it good when children get involved in riots?

      yes, but the conversation is not about, the conversation about legal or illegal rallies. Do you have all * not legal * rallies accompanied by riots?
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 23 January 2021 10: 18
        +8
        Quote: atalef
        yes, but the conversation is not about that

        Exactly about that. Involving children in such a mean thing.
        Quote: atalef
        You have all * not legal * rallies accompanied by riots

        And why are they still collected?
        1. atalef
          atalef 23 January 2021 11: 00
          -9
          Quote: Dart2027
          Exactly about that. Involving children in such a mean thing.

          but in this
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 23 January 2021 12: 23
            -1
            Quote: atalef
            but in this

            There is no chance of becoming a sacred victim on the line.
            Although, in itself it is significant that those who are outraged by the "brutality of the regime" cannot cite as an example anything other than lessons in school, that is, they themselves confirm that "this power" does not hide behind children.
        2. atalef
          atalef 23 January 2021 17: 12
          -2
          Quote: Dart2027
          Exactly about that. Involving children in such a mean thing.

          Do you attribute this to the fate of children in rallies for Putin?
          Quote: Dart2027
          And why are they still collected?

          Well, in general, it is exactly for the same, for which it is legal. They are all the same rallies, just some authorities allow, and others do not.
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 23 January 2021 18: 57
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            and the participation of children in rallies for Putin

            In any. But I don’t remember that children were massively gathered there, or will you refer to school rulers?

            Quote: Dart2027
            There is no chance of becoming a sacred victim on the line.
            Although, in itself it is significant that those who are outraged by the "brutality of the regime" cannot cite as an example anything other than lessons in school, that is, they themselves confirm that "this power" does not hide behind children.

            Quote: atalef
            Well, in general, it is exactly for the same, for which it is legal. Rallies they are all the same
            Yeah, that's just for some reason they climb on some of the skins to start a fight with the police.
      2. Tank hard
        Tank hard 23 January 2021 11: 27
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        yes, but the conversation is not about, the conversation about legal or illegal rallies. Do you have all * not legal * rallies accompanied by riots?

        And you, in Israel?
        1. aszzz888
          aszzz888 23 January 2021 12: 09
          -1

          Tank Hard (Daniel von Messer)
          Today, 11: 27
          NEW

          +2
          Quote: atalef
          yes, but the conversation is not about, the conversation about legal or illegal rallies. Do you have all * not legal * rallies accompanied by riots?

          And you, in Israel?
          In Israel, more and more machine guns are trying to target the demonstrators. bully In the best case, the ARMY and the policy will shoot back with rubber bands.
          1. atalef
            atalef 23 January 2021 17: 16
            -4
            Quote: aszzz888
            In Israel, more and more machine guns are trying to target the demonstrators. In the best case, the ARMY and the policy will shoot back with rubber bands.

            can you give an example?
            Where in Israel have demonstrations been dispersed by firearms?
            1. aszzz888
              aszzz888 24 January 2021 02: 42
              0

              atalef (alexander)
              Yesterday, 17: 16
              NEW

              -3
              Quote: aszzz888
              In Israel, more and more machine guns are trying to target the demonstrators. In the best case, the ARMY and the policy will shoot back with rubber bands.

              can you give an example?
              Where in Israel were the demonstrations dispersed by firearms? [

              Дуchase her!

              Clashes on the Israeli border with the Gaza Strip (... en.wikipedia.org ›wiki› Clashes_ on the_ border _...

              "Bloody day in years": dead people are buried in Gaza ...
              etc.
              1. Arpad
                Arpad 24 January 2021 06: 19
                -1
                Quote: aszzz888
                Drive her fool!

                Quote: aszzz888
                Clashes on the Israeli border with the Gaza Strip (... en.wikipedia.org ›wiki› Clashes_ on_ the_ border_

                do not drive the fool - Gaza is not Israel.
                1. aszzz888
                  aszzz888 24 January 2021 08: 40
                  0
                  Arpad (Alexander)
                  Today, 06: 19
                  NEW

                  -1
                  Quote: aszzz888
                  Drive her fool!

                  Quote: aszzz888
                  Clashes on the Israeli border with the Gaza Strip (... en.wikipedia.org ›wiki› Clashes_ on_ the_ border_

                  do not drive the fool - Gaza is not Israel.
                  you read at a discount, then you will be clever. fool
        2. VORON538
          VORON538 23 January 2021 12: 33
          +2
          They usually answer such questions: "this is something else" lol
          1. aszzz888
            aszzz888 23 January 2021 12: 42
            -1
            VORON538 (artem)
            Today, 12: 33

            +1
            They usually answer such questions: "this is the second" lol
            Oh yes, very touchy! wink
        3. atalef
          atalef 23 January 2021 17: 14
          -2
          Quote: Tank Hard
          And you, in Israel?

          and we practically do not have illegal shopping malls to obtain permission for a rally, in general, it is not even required, the police are notified of the rally, and to ban the police, oh what important arguments are needed, and the refusal will immediately lead to court, where the police will immediately lose it - therefore notifies the police. permission is given automatically.
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 23 January 2021 17: 22
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            and we practically do not have illegal shopping malls to obtain permission for a rally, in general, it is not even required, the police are notified of the rally, and to ban the police, oh what important arguments are needed, and the refusal will immediately lead to court, where the police will immediately lose it - therefore notifies the police. permission is given automatically.

            how good it is in your country, but pulls you to carry "democracy" in your understanding to other countries. apparently from love for other nations. wink better fight with Iran, and that time is running out. laughing
    3. Svarog
      Svarog 23 January 2021 10: 20
      -1
      Quote: Dart2027
      Quote: Stas157
      You answer me

      is it good when children get involved in riots?

      It is unacceptable. What is there to answer. Not even something that is not permissible, but criminal.
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 23 January 2021 11: 28
        -1
        Quote: Svarog
        It is unacceptable. What is there to answer. Not even something that is not permissible, but criminal.

        You, svarog, decide whether you are for the regime or against it? And then some kind of quick change of shoes in a jump. are you training?
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 23 January 2021 11: 30
          -3
          Quote: Tank Hard
          Quote: Svarog
          It is unacceptable. What is there to answer. Not even something that is not permissible, but criminal.

          You, svarog, decide whether you are for the regime or against it? And then some kind of quick change of shoes in a jump. are you training?

          Where did you see the changing shoes? You have a strange perception of incoming information .. Yes, I do not support the involvement of children in protests .. I am not a supporter of Navalny, but I support his investigations and protests. It's simple.
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 23 January 2021 11: 36
            -2
            Quote: Svarog
            Where did you see the changing shoes?

            And what's that??:
            Quote: Svarog
            Yes I do not support attraction to children's protests.

            Quote: Svarog
            I'm not a supporter of Navalny,

            And right there:
            Quote: Svarog
            but his investigations and I support protests.

            laughing
            Quote: Svarog
            It's simple.

            wink
            There is no one without the other. request
          2. lopvlad
            lopvlad 23 January 2021 12: 29
            +1
            Quote: Svarog
            Yes, I do not support the involvement of children in protest actions .. I am not a supporter of Navalny, but I support his investigations and protests.


            it is the same as if you were against prostitution but did not stop using the services of prostitutes.
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 23 January 2021 12: 36
              -1
              Quote: lopvlad

              it is the same as if you were against prostitution but did not stop using the services of prostitutes.

              Silly analogy .. Are you against alcohol? But you probably do, although you know that it is harmful ..
              1. lopvlad
                lopvlad 23 January 2021 12: 42
                0
                Quote: Svarog
                Are you against alcohol?


                how can I be against it if I use it. As for harm, any best medicine, if you do not follow the dosage, starts to do harm.
  • Svarog
    Svarog 23 January 2021 09: 40
    -17%
    Quote: Stas157
    Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?

    Stas, she would have become calmer .. for them. And here you have to strain ..
  • g1v2
    g1v2 23 January 2021 09: 50
    +22
    Navalny is not a problem. If he is not, they will promote another clown. Tikhanovskaya or Guaido - it doesn't matter. The problem is those huge media resources that are being thrown into the destruction of our country. I was not interested in the bulk, but under each video I watched, they immediately put him next and everywhere they pop up recommendations on his video. That is, it is mega-difficult not to look through it - it is shoved under everyone's nose. It is clear that an adult adequate person will only laugh at his "investigations", but it is not in vain that he works for children. They don't have critical thinking, but they have youthful nihilism. And the desire for action. And in a few years they will be able to vote. Now the situation is only swinging - everything is preparing for the Duma elections, and most importantly for the year 24. You can, of course, not react to an obvious enemy, but our country has already been broken to the ground 2 times - in 17 and 91 years. We reached the 1913 level only 10 years after the end of civilian life, the 90 level also 10 years after the end of the civil war of the 90s. We were underestimated twice - for the third time our country will not be given a chance.
  • raw174
    raw174 23 January 2021 09: 57
    +8
    Quote: Stas157
    Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?

    Absolutely nothing would have changed. But I believe that people who call the masses for riots should be held accountable, and the involvement of children and adolescents is a circumstance aggravating the guilt. And yes, I think that the calls for a rally - there are calls for riots, since such rallies are always attended by "charged" people provoking clashes with the security forces.
  • Graz
    Graz 23 January 2021 10: 20
    +8
    a foreign puppet dancing under the direction of foreign intelligence services is one of the worst options that can happen if he really comes to power
    here I say directly physical elimination is 100% justified
  • figwam
    figwam 23 January 2021 10: 28
    +5
    Quote: Stas157
    The main pain of the confused is Navalny.

    This is your headache, most of them are heard, our army.
  • Flooding
    Flooding 23 January 2021 10: 36
    +3
    Quote: Stas157
    Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?

    Stupid question.
    There would be another bulk.
  • Hagen
    Hagen 23 January 2021 10: 57
    +2
    Quote: Stas157
    Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?

    It's not about the last name. The point is in those instances that finance the activities of the bulk, forming its ultimate goal. And these instances are over the hill. They officially announce how much money they want to spend on the collapse of unwanted states through such instruments as bulk and the like. Cut off these flows of "green", liquidate bulk and similar NGOs - this is what should be done in the near future by the state, if it does not want new "swamp". And yes, in these "swamp" ones the "onizhedeti" card will be played under one or another sauce. You have to understand that in 8 months we will have elections to the State Duma. So in the spring and summer we must wait for the activation of "manure fans" on all possible resources, not excluding this one. An unprecedented excitement and aggressive activity in the fight for crumbs from the State Department table awaits the anti-Kremlin fraternity. It was not for nothing that last year there were invitations to cooperation for 80 rubles on the website of the US Embassy for "specialists" in "brechology on the Internet." Why crumbs? Because the State Department's budget for traitors fell from $ 000 million in 700 to $ 2019 million in 290 ... which is somewhat encouraging. Scum, too, do not like to be substituted for cheap. wassat
  • Fitter65
    Fitter65 23 January 2021 11: 13
    +3
    Quote: Stas157
    Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?

    Of course better, at least it wouldn't stink. And it is not any pain at all, even for a one-time diarrhea does not pull.
  • Vol4ara
    Vol4ara 23 January 2021 11: 20
    -5
    Quote: Stas157
    The confused main pain - Bulk. They rush around with him as with a written bag, spreading their phantom fears on the air, refuting by this that no one needs him.

    Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?

    I, too, do not understand that this Navalny was given to them. He is a man without power, he has no armies and tanks, he just shows people how our elite steals
  • VORON538
    VORON538 23 January 2021 12: 00
    +2
    I’ll say more simply, there would be no Putin, you would have invented him to blame for your problems and failures!
  • sniperino
    sniperino 23 January 2021 15: 06
    +1
    Quote: Stas157
    The main pain of the confused is Navalny. They rush around with him as if with a written bag, spreading their phantom fears on the air, refuting by this that no one needs him.
    Just an example of political poetic blasphemy. You can write praise on it, slightly correcting punctuation marks
    The anti-travelers have the Great Sun of life - Navalny. They rush about with him as with soaked cowards, spreading their wet dreams on the air, confirming by this that he is the wisest politician and the Man, without whom life loses value.
  • NF68
    NF68 23 January 2021 18: 53
    +1
    Quote: Stas157
    The confused main pain - Bulk. They rush around with him as with a written bag, spreading their phantom fears on the air, refuting by this that no one needs him.

    Tell me, there would be no Navalny - would life be better?


    Such clowns are also sometimes needed.
  • KONST.RU
    KONST.RU 24 January 2021 00: 11
    0
    Naivety! In a German patient, an asterisk fell on the shoulder strap. Everything is in the best traditions of counterintelligence of the USSR (RF). Control: opposition-leader-financial flows. It is foolish not to understand this. If it weren't there, it would be different. It's simple. We stand on that.
  • Sofa expert
    Sofa expert 23 January 2021 08: 59
    +3
    There is no democracy there for a long time .. Only the dictatorship of the dem party and their entourage
  • Rostov Papa
    Rostov Papa 23 January 2021 09: 02
    +6
    Read the article on Antifashist "Youngsters' revolt" A. Yablokov. I recommend.http: //antifashist.com/item/bunt-maloletok.html
    1. sniperino
      sniperino 23 January 2021 15: 19
      +2
      Liked:
      We have the "residence of Yanukovych", you have "Putin's palace". The scenario is simple, like a corner of a house ... "They surround themselves with unthinkable luxury there, and we are forced to eat frozen potatoes." The theme worked great in Ukraine.
  • Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 23 January 2021 08: 52
    +20
    Quote: Kot_Kuzya
    Let him be punished for incitement to riot.

    Parting words before the rally ...
    1. Crowe
      Crowe 23 January 2021 09: 03
      +27
      The law is correct. Here I absolutely agree.
    2. atalef
      atalef 23 January 2021 09: 07
      -22%
      Quote: Zoldat_A
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      Let him be punished for incitement to riot.

      Parting words before the rally ...

      Are you talking only about illegal rallies?
      Well, as I understand it, any rally in your country can be declared illegal. So it is possible for legitimate ones (this is for Putin and United Russia). And not legal ones - it is impossible.
      those. in the first case, the child's psyche does not suffer and he is fully capable, and in the second case - no. Just remember, not * legal * rallies can be not only for Navalny and against the increase in utility tariffs.
      I don't understand, in our country a single picket is a priori not considered illegal and does not require permission from any authorities at all, any other rally (with a large number of people) only requires registration with the police and we need monstrously good reasons not to be allowed, yes the pandemic and the quarantine in which we sit tightly does not prohibit participation in demonstrations. A person has every right to express his opinion - this is the basic provision of individual freedom and minors have the same right to participate in this. Violate public order, commit illegal actions - approx. arrest these, but peaceful demonstration, picket with placards? How should the authorities be afraid of their citizens in order to restrict them in their basic right - freedom of speech.
      And you applaud laughing ... Well done - tomorrow, or rather today, you are turning yourself into a silent herd walking only in the direction necessary for the authorities and opening your mouth only to glorify it.
      And then cry - why we have it. Look at yourself and you will understand.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 23 January 2021 09: 20
        +13
        Quote: atalef
        Well, as I understand it any rally can be declared illegal for you... So it is possible for legitimate ones (this is for Putin and United Russia). And not legal ones - it is impossible.
        those. in the first case, the child's psyche does not suffer and he is fully capable, and in the second case - no.

        A bit wrong. Read our laws carefully, Alexander. Any meeting with us can be made LEGAL, if you submit an application in advance, indicate in it the organizers, place, time, duration of the mass event and the planned number of participants.

        And how, interestingly, the Israeli authorities and power structures will behave if someone through the Internet spontaneously organizes a crowd in the center of Tel Aviv in support of Palestine with calls to destroy the state of Israel? How your "most democratic in the world" friends react - we watched the entire end of the past and the beginning of this year. And you? Let the enemies of the state do what they want democratically.

        My personal opinion is that I have always considered Jews to be smart people and therefore, I think, your authorities would have acted adequately - they would have dispersed such a "meeting" to hell.
        1. dauria
          dauria 23 January 2021 09: 33
          +11
          your authorities would have acted adequately - they would have dispersed such a "meeting" to hell.


          Yes, everything is fine with the Jews. During the spring quarantine of the Orthodox in jail, the door of the synagogue was welded tightly. Onlookers - a receipt with a fine. This is Atalef (Alexander) so, according to old memory, he is fighting for freedom in the USSR. laughing I missed ...
          1. atalef
            atalef 23 January 2021 10: 28
            -10%
            Quote: dauria
            Yes, everything is fine with the Jews. During the spring quarantine of the Orthodox in jail, the door of the synagogue was welded tightly. Onlookers - a receipt with a fine.

            no fairy tales, please.
            Do not confuse pliz, prayer and demonstration.
            Demonstrations - allowed (in the open air with respect to distances) prayers - no more than 10 people indoors.
            The devil is in the details - half-truths are worse than lies.

            Code of Conduct During Coronavirus - Tough General Quarantine
            Movement
            Allowed
            move away from the house at a distance of up to 1 kilometer. Exceptions to allow greater distance from home:

            For vaccination
            To purchase medicines, food and essential goods, as well as to receive vital services
            For playing sports alone or with people living in the same house for an unlimited distance (but not getting to the place of sports by car)
            To travel to places where work is permitted - - for employees, job seekers and soldiers
            To arrive at a permitted place of work
            To arrive at an educational institution whose work is permitted
            For medical treatment, life-saving social assistance, treatment with "alternative medicine" or for blood donation
            To help people who are going through difficulties or are in a difficult situation
            To participate in a funeral, wedding, Bar Mitzvah, Bat Mitzvah, circumcision rite or a similar religious ceremony in other religions (subject to the established limit on the number of those present) of a relative - grandparents, parents, spouses and their parents, children, grandchildren, brothers or sisters and their children, uncles or aunts, or the participation in a wedding of the person conducting the wedding ceremony and one witness
            For demonstration, trial, or to arrive in the Knesset
            To participate in the demo

            To participate in the trial
            To come to the Knesset
            For the transfer of minor children between divorced parents
            To transfer minors under the supervision of adults, in cases where the parent raising them is forced to leave for the purpose of vital necessity
            To provide the necessary care for animals
            Women - for immersion in mikveh tahara
            To move from one permanent place of residence to another, including moving from a place of residence to a place of stay in quarantine
            To change your place of residence
            For arrival at the airport for departure abroad, no more than 8 hours before the departure time, under certain conditions>
            Departure of people with disabilities living in social protection institutions to visit relatives of the first degree of kinship, and visiting relatives in their institutions
            A person with disabilities who, due to their disability, is forced to go out into the public space at a greater distance than one kilometer from the place of residence, together with one accompanying person
            To get to the place of stay in quarantine
            To vote in primary elections (primaries) or to prepare parties for elections.
            It is forbidden to leave the house for the purpose of staying in another person's house (except for one of the permitted reasons, such as helping a person experiencing difficulties)
          2. aszzz888
            aszzz888 23 January 2021 10: 37
            -1

            dauria (Alexey)
            Today, 09: 33

            +5
            your authorities would have acted adequately - they would have dispersed such a "meeting" to hell.


            Yes, everything is fine with the Jews. During the spring quarantine of the Orthodox in jail, the door of the synagogue was welded tightly. Onlookers - a receipt with a fine. This is Atalef (Alexander) so, according to old memory, he is fighting for freedom in the USSR. laughing I missed you....
            That is why he pours slop on Russia, works out matzo. wink
        2. atalef
          atalef 23 January 2021 10: 12
          -12%
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Read our laws carefully, Alexander. Any meeting with us can be made LEGAL,

          if it suits the authorities. Dial in Google - a rally about the increase in housing and communal services tariffs was banned - Google will give 65000 results, even if 90% is garbage. don't tell me about legality
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          And how, interestingly, the Israeli authorities and power structures will behave if someone through the Internet spontaneously organizes a crowd in the center of Tel Aviv in support of Palestine with calls to destroy the state of Israel?

          Absolutely calm and such demonstrations take place regularly. we have enough extreme left-wing organizations, they always pass under the protection of the police, patriotic citizens try to stuff the demonstrators in the muzzles

          Quote: Zoldat_A
          How your "most democratic in the world" friends react - we watched the entire end of the past and the beginning of this year

          ??
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          ... And you? Let the enemies of the state do what they want democratically.

          demonstrations - please, a person has the right to freedom of speech and assembly. yes, if this does not suit the authorities
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          My personal opinion is that I have always considered Jews to be smart people and therefore, I think, your authorities would have acted adequately - they would have dispersed such a "meeting" to hell.

          Well, apparently not all of us are * smart *. but we somehow live with it and the feeling of freedom - it is correct.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 23 January 2021 12: 52
            -1
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Read our laws carefully, Alexander. Any meeting with us can be made LEGAL,

            if it suits the authorities. Dial in Google - a rally about the increase in housing and communal services tariffs was banned - Google will give 65000 results, even if 90% is garbage. don't tell me about legality

            You read about our rallies in Google, how they are prohibited. But I can't drive up to my office - they block traffic (it's good that a 10-minute walk is almost the only paid parking lot in the entire Central District of the city). And about housing and communal services, people calmly resented themselves somewhere last spring - I looked out of the office window. And no one forbade or dispersed anyone, did not push them into police vehicles and gassed them. And the 6500 remaining Google results (10%) are just the "work" of various "Echoes", "Rains" and Oval. There is an informational lead (5% of the truth) - the rest can be thought up (95% of lies). Everything is absolutely in the style of our liberals, according to the precepts of Goebbels' grandfather.
            1. atalef
              atalef 23 January 2021 16: 39
              -2
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              You read about our rallies in Google, how they are prohibited.

              Ie you say that there are no rallies that prohibit 7 then what is the message of the article? ie rallies are allowed, but the people are stupidly trying to organize them illegally?
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              ... And the 6500 remaining Google results (10%) are just the "work" of various "Echoes", "Rains" and Oval.

              does not play a role, they also have the right to their opinion and its voice - all this is included in the general concept - individual freedom.
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              ... There is an informational guide (5% of the truth) - the rest can be thought up (95% of lies).

              that is, the truth is the prerogative of the authorities?
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 23 January 2021 17: 27
                +2
                Quote: atalef
                Ie you say that there are no rallies that prohibit 7 then what is the message of the article? ie rallies are allowed, but the people are stupidly trying to organize them illegally?

                I said a lot about this above, I don't want to repeat myself. In short - if you officially issue a permit - there will be no provocation. They came, shouted, dispersed. And Oval EXACTLY needs provocation. So that clubs, gas, paddy wagons, "regime atrocities", "inhuman dictator Putin". Yes, even against the "children". Therefore, they DELIVEREDLY did not issue permits, because the target audience is shkolota.
        3. AUL
          AUL 23 January 2021 10: 30
          0
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Read our laws carefully, Alexander. Any rally with us can be made LEGAL, if you submit an application in advance, indicate the organizers, place, time, duration of the mass event and the planned number of participants in it.

          Then it is not clear how we can have illegal rallies! Are the organizers so stupid that they don't submit applications in advance? Or are they just masochists?
          Or maybe just any official in the mayor's office, spitting on the Constitution, can declare any rally illegal?
          By the way, does the constitution contain restrictions on participation in meetings by age?
          1. AUL
            AUL 23 January 2021 12: 01
            0
            Quote: AUL
            Then it is not clear how we can have illegal rallies!

            Minuses were instructed, but not a single answer to the question! request
          2. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 23 January 2021 13: 11
            -3
            I didn't put a minus, but the answer is here.
            Quote: AUL
            Then it is not clear how we can have illegal rallies! Are the organizers so stupid that they don't submit applications in advance? Or are they just masochists?

            And why Oval (well, it is difficult for him himself now - so oval) not apply? Why in appeals to go to a rally emphasizedthat rally unauthorized? But because such a rally will be knowingly dispersed, and the bulk will earn a couple of trump cards for their owners in the form of pictures and "vidos" about how "the terrible Putin strangles the voice of the people" and "beats up children."
            Quote: AUL
            By the way, does the constitution contain restrictions on participation in meetings by age?

            The procedure for holding rallies is determined not by the Constitution, but by the Federal Law "On Assemblies, Rallies, Demonstrations, Processions and Picketing" of June 19.06.2004, 54 N XNUMX-FZ. Yes, there is no mention of age. But the owners of Oval are much more pleased when the police (ugh, the police!) Disperse the "children" than healthy adult men. Could Oval - he would have brought legless disabled people - also a good picture for "free media" will be. But, firstly, there are much less of them than schoolchildren. And secondly, they are not as passionate as the little stupid schoolchildren who do not understand anything except social networks. So if only to hang out and make "vidos" - and then do not care - for whom and for what.

            So the bulk of the Soros are not masochists. It is they who make young schoolchildren sacred sacrifices.
            1. paul3390
              paul3390 23 January 2021 13: 23
              +3
              not the Constitution, but the Federal Law "On Meetings, Rallies, Demonstrations, Processions and Picketing" of June 19.06.2004, 54 N XNUMX-FZ.

              This means that the law violates the Constitution. For it is primary in relation to any further lawmaking, and it cannot rule, supplement or interpret it as you like ..
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 23 January 2021 13: 41
                0
                Quote: paul3390
                This means that the law violates the Constitution. For it is primary in relation to any further lawmaking, and it cannot rule, supplement or interpret it as you like ..

                It has been said -
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                there is no mention of age.

                What is the discrepancy?
            2. AUL
              AUL 23 January 2021 14: 32
              +3
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              I didn't put a minus, but the answer is here.

              In fact, I asked the question without being tied to the organizers of the rally, but, so to speak, "on a global scale." And you tie everything to Navalny.
              And further. Do you have data (share pliz) that for these rallies not submitted applications for holding? It is more likely that some small clerk in the mayor's office (the big one will not substitute) imposed a refusal under a fake pretext, so the meeting became unauthorized.
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 23 January 2021 17: 14
                0
                Quote: AUL
                And further. Do you have data (share pliz) that no applications were submitted for these rallies?

                You may not believe me. Do you believe yours, "Echo of Moscow"?
                Several hundred people came to the rally in support of Navalny in Kirov.
                [...] some sources state that about 300 people came to the mayor's office, mostly young people.
                Police cars and paddy wagons appeared at the mayor's office long before the start of the action, although it was not announced anywhere, and people said that they would just go out for a walk. The police warned the gathered residents of Kirov that the event was not sanctioned... The arrests have not yet been reported. https://echokirova.ru/news/nekolko-desyatkov-chelovek-prishli-na-aktsiyu-v-podderzhku-navalnogo-v-kirove?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&nw=1611409209000
                Yesterday I read that security officials in Samara, Voronezh, Novosibirsk, and many other places published warnings that the rally was unauthorized.

                Well, in fact, the oval's got their way - they drove the youngsters into the streets, and now they raise the stench all over the world. And how the maidan horses are trying to help them .... Pay attention - who sweeps the snowstorm - naturally, not the newspaper Pravda. Naturally, "Rain".
                In Moscow, half an hour before the start of a rally in support of opposition leader Alexei Navalny, Red Square was closed on January 23. The security forces began mass detentions of people.
                The TV channel Dozhd reports this.
                At about 11:30 Kiev time, arrests began in the center of Moscow. The siloviki took away those who raised the posters ..
                After that, the police began to detain people who were just sitting on benches in the area of ​​Pushkin Square.
                Correspondents working in the center of Moscow note that "people are being grabbed indiscriminately." In particular, eyewitnesses filmed the child's gross detention.
                In short, everything, pulling up trousers on the go, we flee from this country with its dictatorship. Or, as an option, a machine gun in hand and to storm the Kremlin for freedom and democracy? The West will be happy - the grants have been worked out ...
                And for dessert, one more "truth-seekers" who have proven themselves where possible and where not - the "most truthful of the truthful" Medusa -
                Pushkinskaya Square, where the Freedom Navalny protest rally is to begin at 13:00, has been closed since the evening of January 22. On the morning of January 23, paving slabs began to be laid on the square, Meduza reports.
                Also the correspondent of the publication noticed armored vehicles on the approaches to Moscow. The column moved in the morning along the Gorkovskoye highway towards the capital.
                .
                .
                A premonition of a civil war? Our liberals were not in a hurry to declare Russia 23.01.2021/11.09.1973/XNUMX Chile XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX ??? .
                Look at the stinking company - "Echo", "Rain", "Medusa", UkroSMI ... Now the BBC with CNN will catch up ... Can a sane person end up in such an information dump?
        4. paul3390
          paul3390 23 January 2021 10: 49
          +2
          Any rally with us can be made LEGAL, if you submit an application in advance, indicate the organizers, place, time, duration of the mass event and the planned number of participants in it.

          Tell me - have you yourself ever tried to organize a rally? Well, of course - not Zaputin? I just took part in such an event, and I know very well how far what you wrote is far from reality ..
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 23 January 2021 13: 16
            -4
            Quote: paul3390
            Tell me - have you yourself ever tried to organize a rally? Well, of course - not Zaputin?

            And I have no time to organize rallies and monkey with placards. I need to work. The work and, therefore, the earnings of several hundred people depend on me. And if I organize rallies instead of work, they will arrange "impeachment" myself.
            1. paul3390
              paul3390 23 January 2021 13: 20
              +4
              Well, the stump is clear - you are one hard worker and a hard worker, all the rest are idle bums and agents of the State Department on the maintenance ...
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 23 January 2021 13: 49
                -2
                Quote: paul3390
                Well, the stump is clear - you are just a hard worker and a hard worker

                Not every week, but sometimes you have to work 7 days a week and 15-16 hours is not uncommon. Especially in the study, I made a small room with a sofa and a shower - sometimes I stay overnight.
                I'm not the creepiest hard worker, but the responsibility for several hundred families is crushing. This is good for a bricklayer - he worked his shift, worked out the solution, threw in the cubes of the masonry and calmly went home. Unfortunately, this does not work for me. Responsibility, you know ... He is responsible only for his masonry, and I am for him and hundreds of people like him.
                1. paul3390
                  paul3390 23 January 2021 14: 01
                  +4
                  Yes, I also have enough work to do, because somehow it is necessary to acquire daily bread .. And I would also like butter for him. And there are subordinates.

                  But - I do not think that this frees me as a citizen and communist from responsibility for the fate of the country and its future. Therefore, you have to find time. Otherwise, this new crap will continue with our children, and grandchildren will turn into serfs.

                  We at one time foolishly pissed away the Soviet power - we should return it. There is nothing to pass on to the descendants .. In the end - at one time I, like most of those present here - vowed to defend the Soviet Union to the last drop of blood .. And oaths - breaking is very bad, especially massively .. It has a lot of bad effects on karma .. What we see ..

                  I did not swear to the Russian Federation and to Putin personally, and I am not obliged to them. Everything that I received for free was given to me by my Motherland, the Soviet Union. The bourgeoisie - they just pull money off me ..
        5. Sergey Kulikov_3
          Sergey Kulikov_3 23 January 2021 14: 54
          -1
          Judging by the anecdotes next to the protesters in Israel, shopping arcades with the sale of weapons and ammunition would open, not anything personal, just a business :)
      2. raw174
        raw174 23 January 2021 10: 06
        +3
        Quote: atalef
        Well, as I understand it, any rally in your country can be declared illegal.

        When applications for rallies are submitted in advance, they are almost always allowed, including Navalny, who was allowed to hold rallies, more than once. So don't write nonsense!
      3. Anatoly 288
        Anatoly 288 23 January 2021 10: 24
        +3
        Is everything good in Israel, is everything calm? Are all problems solved? Isa got bored and decided to have some fun?
        1. aszzz888
          aszzz888 23 January 2021 12: 12
          -3

          Anatoly 288 (Anatoly)
          Today, 10: 24

          +3
          Is everything good in Israel, is everything calm? Are all problems solved? Iza got bored and he decided to have some fun?
          It fulfills the matzah, because they will ask him for the hours worked. Therefore it is banished. wink
      4. aszzz888
        aszzz888 23 January 2021 10: 27
        -1

        atalef (alexander)
        Today, 09: 07
        NEW you applaud laughing. Well done - tomorrow, or rather today, you turn yourself into a silent herd walking only in the direction necessary for the authorities and opening your mouth only to glorify it.
        .
        If you were going from here, it is still gathered here to teach! In your Jewess, try to strain !!! angry
      5. Hagen
        Hagen 23 January 2021 11: 05
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        How should the authorities be afraid of their citizens in order to restrict them in their basic right - freedom of speech.

        What kind of power do you mean? laughing
        Quote: atalef
        So you can use legal ones (this is for Putin and EP)

        Come on, an invitation to a rally for Putin - in the studio ..... You, who fled over the hill, what ..... worried about us? We will worry about ourselves, in terms of ...
        Quote: atalef
        in our country, a single picket is a priori not considered illegal and does not require permission from any authorities at all, any other rally (with a large number of people) - only registration with the police and we need monstrously good reasons not to be allowed

        It would be reasonable for you to go to your place, and we, somehow, will find ways to express our thoughts both on housing and communal services and on other issues.
        1. aszzz888
          aszzz888 23 January 2021 12: 16
          -2
          Hagen (Hagen)
          Today, 11: 05
          NEW ... You, who escaped over the hill, what ... worried about us? We will worry about ourselves, in terms of ...
          So for his happiness to pour on Russia (as well as for more material values ​​- matzo, because the owner will ask him).
      6. Tank hard
        Tank hard 23 January 2021 11: 30
        -2
        Quote: atalef
        And then cry - why we have it. Look at yourself and you will understand

        And what do you care about Russia?
      7. sniperino
        sniperino 23 January 2021 15: 29
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        Well, as I understand it, any rally in your country can be declared illegal.
        Who would doubt that you will understand it somehow differently. Any liberal fascist and Bandera member will pat you on the head for this (although the latter will then wipe his hand on his dirty trousers)
    3. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 23 January 2021 09: 49
      +7
      Quote: Zoldat_A
      Parting words before the rally ...

      1. paul3390
        paul3390 23 January 2021 10: 51
        -2
        One might just as well ask - why do the children of our elite not live and study in Russia? Are they all against Putin?
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 23 January 2021 10: 54
          -2
          Quote: paul3390
          One might just as well ask - why do the children of our elite not live and study in Russia?

          How cleverly he twisted laughing
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 23 January 2021 10: 57
            +2
            Yah? That is - you say that everything is wrong and I lied? wassat It's just that your point of view is strikingly one-sided and biased - if you accuse one side of something, then how can you not notice exactly the same in the other? what
        2. lopvlad
          lopvlad 23 January 2021 12: 37
          -1
          Quote: paul3390
          why don't the children of our elite live


          the elite who have already moved to Russia.
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 23 January 2021 12: 56
            +3
            No. They only work here on a rotational basis. Their place of residence is completely different.
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 23 January 2021 13: 38
            +1
            Quote: lopvlad
            the elite who have already moved to Russia.

            Shipbuilder Lizanka Peskova already mulberry, PR ships? Wo, byada ...
  • Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 23 January 2021 10: 09
    -1
    Quote: Kot_Kuzya
    Put Navalny on a bottle for 10 years. Let him be punished for incitement to riot.

    About how!
    But what about democracy, free expression of the will of citizens and the right to rallies? laughing
    Strange, in the "totalitarian scoop" of the late 80s, early 90s, this was welcomed, but under the "freedom and democracy" of the 2000s - a criminal article? How so, but what about the precepts of the fighter against the "regime" Navalny 90s, our unforgettable BN Yeltsin, to whom the current government erects monuments?
    Or then there were "correct" juvenile protestors, and now they have deteriorated? lol lol lol
  • Gato
    Gato 23 January 2021 10: 50
    +1
    Put Navalny on a bottle for 10 years.

    Will it definitely be a punishment for him?
  • The popuas
    The popuas 24 January 2021 09: 26
    0
    And what about the youth army then? wink or rallies and processions on May 1 ... I do not care about Navalny ... but then there is a double-edged sword request
  • Temples
    Temples 23 January 2021 08: 39
    +6
    It's time.
  • VORON538
    VORON538 23 January 2021 08: 39
    +16
    It's high time. Let the organizers communicate with the aueshniks in prison! There is no point in using children as cannon fodder to achieve their dubious goals! Here the same bulkhead protects, hid, his daughter is studying abroad, like some of those whom he is discussing. And that his children are not visible at his "rallies", he is hiding behind strangers.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 23 January 2021 09: 08
      +2
      They are already there. Photo from Komsomolsk on Mure, today I passed the square, everyone is sitting warm in the Kamaz of the Russian Guard
    2. Deck
      Deck 23 January 2021 09: 27
      -4
      You shouldn't use children as cannon fodder to achieve your dubious goals!


      I wonder what you see in the picture ?:

      1. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo 23 January 2021 09: 36
        +1
        This is different.
        The lesson of patriotic education.
        Everyone is sitting quietly, no one wears posters, does not throw stones, "P-ting - the thief does not shout."
        1. Deck
          Deck 23 January 2021 09: 43
          -8
          Cobblestones are not thrown, because they cannot lift.

          1. Narak-zempo
            Narak-zempo 23 January 2021 09: 47
            +1
            I do not see any protests or riots in these photos.
            So it's not the right place.
            1. Deck
              Deck 23 January 2021 09: 51
              -11%
              Is protest and disorder one and the same? Over there today in Khabarovsk the people danced around the trees and sang songs. Something did not prevent our glorious guardsmen from celebrating a dozen or so singing citizens. For nefig.
              1. Narak-zempo
                Narak-zempo 23 January 2021 10: 15
                +1
                Quote: Deck
                Is protest and disorder one and the same? Over there today in Khabarovsk the people danced around the trees and sang songs. Something did not prevent our glorious guardsmen from celebrating a dozen or so singing citizens. For nefig.

                Do you see a lot of order in opposing the government in support of the bandit and murderer Furgal?
                1. Deck
                  Deck 23 January 2021 10: 19
                  -2
                  You got it all mixed up: today, not "in support of the bandit and killer Furgal," but, on the contrary, a scoundrel, pedophile, Russophobe and just a CIA agent Navalny.
                  1. Narak-zempo
                    Narak-zempo 23 January 2021 10: 25
                    -3
                    By and large, both are riots.
                    1. Deck
                      Deck 23 January 2021 10: 29
                      -3
                      Dear, riots and violation of the rules for holding mass events are different acts. The Criminal Code and the Code of Administrative Offenses have detailed definitions of both. Your legal nihilism is depressing.
                      1. Narak-zempo
                        Narak-zempo 23 January 2021 10: 33
                        -5
                        Quote: Deck
                        Dear, riots and violation of the rules for holding mass events are different acts. The Criminal Code and the Code of Administrative Offenses have detailed definitions of both. Your legal nihilism is depressing.

                        Me, you know, as Russian man troll, the idea of ​​"right" is not close.
                        I adhere to the idea of ​​the divine nature of power and humility.
                      2. Deck
                        Deck 23 January 2021 10: 44
                        -3
                        History dictates that in this case you will have to face another popular idea, namely "truth". This, in turn, in combination with the feedback channels lawned by the authorities and the absence of social lifts ("justice") and, as a result, stagnation in the economy will inevitably lead to the third great Russian idea: "riot". Well, then read the great Russian BLM poet A.S. Pushkin
      2. Varyag71
        Varyag71 25 January 2021 12: 18
        0
        Raising slaves
  • VORON538
    VORON538 24 January 2021 13: 21
    +1
    Thirteen pedophiles-liberals have passed away! lol
  • BISMARCK94
    BISMARCK94 23 January 2021 08: 41
    -13%
    To hell with him, with the bulk. But to forbid people to hold a meeting is some kind of surreal. And running on the Internet for children on the basis of this is also something of delirium
    1. krops777
      krops777 23 January 2021 08: 52
      +12
      To hell with him, with the bulk. But to forbid people to hold a meeting is some kind of surreal. And running on the Internet for children on the basis of this is also something of delirium


      How did the protests end during the pandemic after the murder of a Negro in the United States? Nobody forbids protesting, but within the framework of the law, now there is a pandemic, plus children are being pulled here, is it not nonsense? If he fails, he doesn't care if he has one goal set by the US State Department.
      1. BISMARCK94
        BISMARCK94 23 January 2021 08: 55
        -8
        Isn't it nonsense to coordinate rallies with those you oppose?)
        1. krops777
          krops777 23 January 2021 08: 59
          +8
          Isn't it nonsense to coordinate rallies with those you oppose?)


          No, everyone has the right to publicly express their opinion within the framework of the law, of course, democracy is its mother.
          1. BISMARCK94
            BISMARCK94 23 January 2021 09: 07
            -8
            It has. But the laws are usually adopted by those against whom the rally is held. This is the paradox
            1. common man
              common man 23 January 2021 10: 14
              +4
              Quote: BISMARCK94
              But the laws are usually adopted by those against whom the rally is held.

              Interesting. Come Navalny and others like him to power, what laws will they adopt? Guess twice.
              1 Anarchy is the mother of order.
              2. As in the developed dem. countries (Ukraine - all those who disagree to the wall, the USA - half of the army guards the inauguration, the Baltic states - suffrage only for the elite, etc.)
        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 23 January 2021 09: 05
          +5
          Quote: BISMARCK94
          Isn't it nonsense to coordinate rallies with those you oppose?)

          do you prefer anarchy?
    2. halpat
      halpat 23 January 2021 09: 00
      +14
      Quote: BISMARCK94
      To hell with him, with the bulk. But to forbid people to hold a meeting is some kind of surreal. And running on the Internet for children on the basis of this is also something of delirium

      Calling minors to participate in the riots is a criminal offense akin to pedophilia.
      Sisyan and his comrades have broken the next bottom. Urgently to cut down the forest, for 15 years.
      1. Deniska999
        Deniska999 23 January 2021 09: 08
        +4
        Of course, yes, it is ignoble to involve youths in protest activities. But such a general spread of the idea of ​​rallies testifies to the failure of work with young people.
        1. halpat
          halpat 23 January 2021 09: 15
          +6
          Quote: Deniska999
          Of course, yes, it is ignoble to involve youths in protest activities. But such a general spread of the idea of ​​rallies testifies to the failure of work with young people.

          This is yes.
          Everyone needs to talk to their children !! Explain!
          And work with them further. They sit in gadgets, and there are bulk / Zhdanovs / Volkovs - damn pedophiles, creatures !!
          And guys this is a hype ...
          1. NDR-791
            NDR-791 23 January 2021 09: 24
            +2
            Everyone needs to talk to their children !! Explain!
            And work with them further.

            Who is really responsible for their children, he not only explained, but even learned in spite of the school. And this is useless. They even now stick out here, the anarchists are unfinished. Because they can only break, they were not taught to build. Although they are sitting on VO, they should be at the rally wassat
          2. Mountain shooter
            Mountain shooter 23 January 2021 09: 36
            +2
            Quote: Halpat
            This is yes.
            Everyone needs to talk to their children !! Explain!
            And work with them further. They sit in gadgets, and there are bulk / Zhdanovs / Volkovs - damn pedophiles, creatures !!
            And guys this is a hype.

            I barely explained to my own what and how. I found this unfortunate palace in the programs of 2010 and 2016 ... Sisyan is already the third one ... The dust is blowing away, and Alga ... So those responsible for spreading lies on the Internet should be answered ... And involving children in illegal protest activity is akin to pedophilia. And give for such a comparatively ...
          3. Deck
            Deck 23 January 2021 09: 36
            -9
            Something inexplicable - pro-government commentators constantly (either a bottle in the ass, or pedophilia, the St. Petersburg vice-governor Ira Potekhina compared the rallies with sex and alcohol) any sexual-genital associations? Do you have a problem? Can you honestly talk with experts in this profile?
        2. Narak-zempo
          Narak-zempo 23 January 2021 10: 13
          0
          Quote: Deniska999
          indicates failure of youth work

          You have to fight like sidor goats, that's all.
    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 23 January 2021 09: 04
      +11
      Quote: BISMARCK94
      But to forbid people to hold a meeting is some kind of sur

      they were not forbidden either
      1. BISMARCK94
        BISMARCK94 23 January 2021 09: 07
        -9
        Well, yes, Ukraine is an eternal argument)
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 23 January 2021 09: 14
          +5
          why you are not satisfied with this argument, refute it if you can
        2. Gato
          Gato 23 January 2021 09: 44
          +8
          Ukraine is an eternal argument

          Why not? Bright and visual, by which you can clearly trace the script's moves and consequences. In his best. Or #Unasother?
        3. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 23 January 2021 10: 01
          +7
          Good Aleksandr. And why Ukraine can not be an argument? That was the revolution there, they removed the thieves and corrupt officials in the person of the Yanukovych government. IIIII ???? Did they live happily? Everyone moved to Mercians and began to eat caviar? Medicine has improved? As I understand it, you also wanted anarchy? I can give you another example, France. Fatty, rich Europe. And what about the constant demonstrations, burning cars and barricades? And the slogans Not to remind? In Armenia, too, the revolution has passed, Pashinyan from the same opera, who rose at the protests, also all bathed in chocolate? I have one joy, my children are standing on the other side of the wall. And when the unrest is unleashing, I will stand next to my children. Not for Putin and Co., but for calmness. I don't want to run around the ruins in armor with a machine gun anymore.
        4. Gato
          Gato 23 January 2021 11: 05
          +1
          Ukraine is an eternal argument

          A little more offtopic from the heading "Their customs":

          On the eve of Kiev, near the IQ business center, the former first deputy head of the SBU Dmitry Neskromny was detained.
          According to the newspaper, he was detained on suspicion of transferring money for organizing the contract murder of Andrei Naumov, head of the SBU's main internal security department.
          Also in this case, an employee of the Alfa SBU special unit Andrei Rasyuk was detained.
          At the same time, it is reported that after the arrest Nemodesty fled right in handcuffs. In this regard, an interception plan was announced.
          Immodest was the deputy head of the SBU from 2019 to March 2020.

          Everything is fine in this news, especially the will to freedom laughing
      2. loki565
        loki565 23 January 2021 09: 34
        +3
        they were not forbidden either

        Half of them no longer live in Ukraine, Polish strawberries and all that)))
    4. NDR-791
      NDR-791 23 January 2021 09: 05
      +7
      And running on the Internet for children on the basis of this is also something of delirium
      This is absolutely true Onizhedeti !!! Mom is anarchy, dad is a glass of port ??? How old do we have criminal responsibility? Maybe not to run after them, maybe mom and dad will answer?
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          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 23 January 2021 09: 32
            0
            Quote: Ros 56
            and other shops are packed with cars, and not Muscovites and Zhiguli, but foreign cars for every taste.

      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 23 January 2021 09: 29
        0
        Quote: Ros 56
        And you are a bot, it turns out,

        Plus the bot is bulk.
        Basement and bayden of one field of berries. Both the one and the other dream of destroying Russia
    2. Alex DHG
      Alex DHG 23 January 2021 08: 47
      +12
      No. Not everyone. But for the involvement of children, one must jail.
    3. Svetlana
      Svetlana 23 January 2021 08: 52
      +3
      Boy, first grow up and learn
      and then you will be able to take on the solution of state problems.
      Those who cannot read or write do not become authors of stories.
    4. krops777
      krops777 23 January 2021 08: 57
      +6
      Are you satisfied with everything in our country? If yes, then such commentators should put you on a bottle ... Putinoid bots ...


      What do you think under Stalin, too, everything suited everyone, too, the bots of the Stalinists? And what would have happened to him with Provalny, if he had such a protest, I'm afraid he would not have gotten rid of for 10 years.
    5. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 23 January 2021 09: 06
      +5
      Quote: Sofa Expert
      Putinoida bots ...

      that is, you can express your opinion and others cannot? !!
      bots immediately!
      then why are you indignant at the prohibitions on rallies, they will pour out, after all, this is your position, only against you
    6. Genry
      Genry 23 January 2021 09: 57
      +7
      Quote: Sofa Expert
      Putinoida bots ...

      Do you hang up the labels?
      The technology is immediately visible from the manuals ...
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 23 January 2021 08: 43
    -5
    So now minors are not allowed to attend any rally? Or meetings of two categories? Some are supposedly bad, while others are supposedly patriotic. Only here are the boys. that now in power, everyone in the late 80s was invited to democracy, told about the right to vote, the right to hold a meeting. It turns out these rights were good while they were against the Soviet Union. But against the current Nizzzz.
    1. Sofa expert
      Sofa expert 23 January 2021 08: 54
      -17%
      That's right, they've taken the worst from the West and are using it against the population .. The wall is crying for these rulers ..
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 23 January 2021 17: 25
        0
        Quote: Sofa Expert
        That's right, they took the worst from the West and are using it against the population.

        and you know that it is in the west for participating in unlawful rallies and processions
    2. common man
      common man 23 January 2021 10: 25
      +5
      Quote: Gardamir
      That is, now it is impossible for minors to attend any meeting?

      As far as I understood, they will not be punished for participating in rallies, but for publicly inciting protests, when they initially show where the brick lies and at whom to throw it. That is why the howls are raised in bulk, because they thought that the police would beat the teenagers for joy (you know who), but it turns out that those who sent others will be imprisoned, and he himself sat quietly at home.
    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 23 January 2021 17: 25
      0
      Quote: Gardamir
      That is, now it is impossible for minors to attend any meeting?

      for ANY NOT LEGAL
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 23 January 2021 18: 15
        -3
        for ANY NOT LEGAL
        as well?
        Article 17

        1. In the Russian Federation, human and civil rights and freedoms are recognized and guaranteed in accordance with generally accepted principles and norms of international law and in accordance with this Constitution.

        2. Fundamental human rights and freedoms are inalienable and belong to everyone from birth.

        3. The exercise of the rights and freedoms of a person and citizen must not violate the rights and freedoms of others.

        Article 31

        Citizens of the Russian Federation have the right to assemble peacefully without weapons, hold meetings, rallies and demonstrations, marches and pickets.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 23 January 2021 18: 46
          -1
          I understand that you and a bulkhead are from the same educational institution, it's me that you both interpret the laws in a peculiar way
          in the Constitution there is not a word about the prohibition of pedophilia and the prohibition of drunk driving, do you think this means that these acts are allowed ?!

          you have the right to "meetings, rallies and demonstrations, processions and picketing" but these actions are regulated by other legislative acts
          and either you are simply illiterate, or a provocateur
  • aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 23 January 2021 08: 43
    +1
    Navalny is tired ... he offers nothing but a reason for riots. He doesn't even suggest changing the system. And the system is such that - having palaces have people
    1. VORON538
      VORON538 23 January 2021 08: 48
      +6
      Navalner is not imprisoned, 30 days-chickens laugh
      Platoshkin for less - in prison
      The question is, whose interests are represented by the bulkhead? Maybe capital, which is eager to feed?
      1. Intruder
        Intruder 23 January 2021 08: 50
        -1
        Maybe capital, which is torn to the trough?
        Was it different !? laughing , everyone pulled their handles to the "trough" and many successfully reached out, surprisingly ... fellow
      2. Svetlana
        Svetlana 23 January 2021 08: 54
        +6
        This is normal. This is a pre-trial arrest, not a punishment opening. The court will decide for what and how much.
        1. WIKI
          WIKI 23 January 2021 09: 45
          -3
          Quote: Svetlana
          This is a pre-trial arrest

          Long live our judgment.
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 23 January 2021 10: 16
            0
            Quote: WIKI
            Long live our judgment.

            this Karaulov, that mouthpiece of Perestroika. Yes, Naval is saved! while he is in prison he is alive. They will make a victim of him! in prison, his carcass will breathe, and in freedom he will breathe as a beginner, or like Nemtsov ...
          2. Svetlana
            Svetlana 23 January 2021 10: 26
            +1
            What will happen to the forum if we talk to each other with vidos? Express your thought in words.
            1. WIKI
              WIKI 23 January 2021 17: 03
              +2
              Why should I plagiarize and retell if I can honestly refer to the original source. If you do not agree with the facts stated in the video, write it. And since you have no questions, then I did everything right. Why bother with unnecessary nonsense.
              1. Svetlana
                Svetlana 23 January 2021 17: 33
                0
                Hmm .. don't think right. It is better to summarize the video or provide a short quote and source from it than just cite the source.
                ...
                "Any revolution is worth something only if it knows how to defend itself "... Collected Works v.37 V. I. Lenin will be more correct than just a PSS v.37 V. I. Lenin.
                1. WIKI
                  WIKI 23 January 2021 18: 01
                  +1
                  Quote: Svetlana
                  Better to summarize the video

                  I summarized, "Long live our judgment." If you need a lot of words, then this is not for me. "Only that which is empty inside thunders" - William Shakespeare. I specially wrote the author so that you would not convict me of plagiarism.
      3. atalef
        atalef 23 January 2021 08: 55
        -3
        Quote: VORON538
        The question is, whose interests are represented by the bulkhead? Maybe capital, which is eager to feed?

        and whose interests does Putin represent? Medvedev?
        1. aszzz888
          aszzz888 23 January 2021 09: 04
          0

          atalef (alexander)
          Today, 08: 55
          NEW

          -1
          Quote: VORON538
          The question is, whose interests are represented by the bulkhead? Maybe capital, which is eager to feed?

          and whose interests does Putin represent? Medvedev?
          Definitely not yours. angrypi.si. Better ask the benny whose "interests he represents"
          1. atalef
            atalef 23 January 2021 10: 15
            -5
            Quote: aszzz888
            Definitely not yours. pi.si. Better ask the benny whose "interests he represents"

            I do not know .
            but you forget a little, our prime ministers are re-elected. and Benya will be re-elected and he will go to jail if the accusations are confirmed (like Olmert sat down or Katsav). And you only have a Navalny thief. laughing
            1. aszzz888
              aszzz888 23 January 2021 10: 28
              -1

              atalef (alexander)
              Today, 10: 15
              NEW

              0
              Quote: aszzz888
              Definitely not yours. pi.si. Better ask the benny whose "interests he represents"

              I do not know .
              but you forget a little, our prime ministers are re-elected. and Benya will be re-elected and he will go to jail if the accusations are confirmed (like Olmert sat down or Katsav). And you only have a Navalny thief.
              And in your Jewish woman all are NOT THIEFS ?! tongue fool lol
      4. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 23 January 2021 10: 11
        +2
        Quote: VORON538
        The question is, whose interests are represented by the bulkhead? Maybe capital, which is eager to feed?

        absolutely right! Capital, foreign, financial. Our Russian capital does not suit them that it is ours ... we don’t like it either, and they are trying to play on it. Foreign capital, which Platoshkin does not have trump cards, so Naval gets away with it.
    2. Sofa expert
      Sofa expert 23 January 2021 08: 56
      -12%
      The piled-up fellow only by exposing the stealing power, started from the bottom and reached the top .. The fish has rotted for a long time ..
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 23 January 2021 09: 32
        0
        Quote: Sofa Expert
        The piled-up fellow only by exposing the stealing power, started from the bottom and reached the top ..

        Whistleblower, damn it ... An ordinary liar in the best traditions of the school of Dr. Goebbels .... They sit, the whole team oval-suck out the "truth-womb" and "exposure" are sucked out of the finger. Whatever "revelation" you take - "presumably", "from the words of a source who did not want to name himself", "probably", "can be admitted" ... Arguments - one to one like the owners - the British and the staff ... And about "Putin's palace" was told by a fellow like Rodchenko about doping. With that Rodchenko, everything has long been clear - and this is the same "contractor" ....
      2. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 23 January 2021 10: 56
        +1
        Quote: Sofa Expert
        The fish has rotted for a long time ..

        Navalny loves money too laughing
    3. Deniska999
      Deniska999 23 January 2021 09: 04
      +4
      Navalny is part of the system)
    4. Sotskiy
      Sotskiy 23 January 2021 12: 24
      0
      Quote: aybolyt678
      Navalny is tired ... he offers nothing but a reason for riots. He doesn't even suggest changing the system.

      He was not supposed to have such a goal. lol hi
      Navalny declares the change of "wrong" capitalism to "correct". That is, the replacement of the current exploiters by others, "correct" ones, in the same capitalist paradigm.
      We are invited to once again compete for "THEIR" right to exploit, through the hands of the exploited. laughing
      YOU HAVE NOT DECIDED YET WHICH SIDE OF OPERATORS TO CHOOSE?
      THEN PUTIN WITH THE BULK COME TO YOU! laughing laughing laughing
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 23 January 2021 08: 43
    -4
    This should have been done 20 years ago, we came to our senses, we need to think less about our pockets.
  • sleeve
    sleeve 23 January 2021 08: 47
    +11
    Half measure, although effective. Criminal and administrative impunity for minors multiplied by the elemental of adolescent puberty plus the same adolescent nihilism of "self-determination". Here is a combustible mass, a passive base for ignition. The herding of teenage companies, the propensity for hype and the search for authority figures are the detonator. The people who ride this skate, although unprincipled, are accurate and reasonable. The state and society will not screw criminal nuts on these "pimply" bolts of the alleged protest. As well as abandoning the idea of ​​a great information wall, which is difficult and costly and ineffective. And by the way, having adopted this option, some "pseudo-activists" are trying to politicize the youth-controlled movements. Do they want a teenage "citizen"? Volunteering and self-education, historical spirituality and the activity of social (it is her, politics has its time!) Position - that's what these movements need. Do not "plunge" into your games "not for children". Moreover, with a touch of "cult", for which every time "the ear is turned out". But the servile nature, aggravated by the rise in the administrative ladder, all one thing requires children's rallies "in support", although THERE and without children are quite worth it.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 23 January 2021 08: 53
      -6
      ... Here is a combustible mass, a passive base for ignition. The herding of teenage companies, the propensity for hype and the search for authority figures are the detonator.
      but to the point, to disperse as before .., "cosmonauts" of the RosGvardia are more effective than the most vigorous, but "dumb" puberty with nihilism "milk-lip" punks :)
    2. Intruder
      Intruder 23 January 2021 08: 55
      -4
      Moreover, with a touch of "cult", for which every time "the ear is turned out". But the servile nature, exacerbated with the rise in the administrative ladder, all one requires children's rallies "in support"
      I agree with this, especially:
      But the servile nature, sharpening
      while the low social culture of our youth does not allow them to effectively solve problems with power here and now, but perhaps in 100 years and will grow to European values! laughing in a good way, I meant ...
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 23 January 2021 09: 16
        +3
        Quote: Intruder
        in 100 years and will grow to European values! in a good way, I meant ...

        and what exactly do you mean, what are good values ​​in Europe?
        1. WIKI
          WIKI 23 January 2021 09: 57
          -4
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          Well, what values ​​are good in Europe?

          If we compare health care expenditures with the GDP of different countries, the largest share of health care expenditures is in the United States (16,40%), about 11% of GDP in Germany, France, and Sweden. Russia 5% ;.
          1. Quadro
            Quadro 23 January 2021 10: 22
            +2
            Quote: WIKI
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            Well, what values ​​are good in Europe?

            If we compare health care expenditures with the GDP of different countries, the largest share of health care expenditures is in the United States (16,40%), about 11% of GDP in Germany, France, and Sweden. Russia 5% ;.

            Well, that is, in sga medicine is the best in the world? I see what you are. Apparently stupid American presidents and politicians are wasting money and time, constantly talking about medical robbery, poor treatment and insurance slavery. These are the European values. Or good medicine in European Holland, where it is advised to be treated abroad and not to have any dealings with the locals, because in the literal sense they will kill you with their methods of treatment. It is easy to write heresy about "good" there, when many cannot check. The main thing is to roll out the tsiferki.
            1. WIKI
              WIKI 23 January 2021 17: 07
              +1
              There is only one chatter from you against the numbers. Bark like a dog for no reason.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 23 January 2021 17: 30
                0
                Quote: WIKI
                There is only one chatter from you against the numbers. Bark like a dog for no reason.

                only an extremely stupid person will stupidly transfer the methods of management operating in one country to another
                a simple example when designing factories for industrial production in the USSR, warehouses were laid out for 3 6 months of autonomous work, in Europe for 2 hours, if you transfer Western experience to our realities, then the production will simply stop, by the way they do not keep there full-time repairmen and there are no spare parts warehouses about the word at all, and we will not be able to work without this
          2. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 23 January 2021 17: 26
            -1
            your Russian is not native or the term value is not clear?
            1. WIKI
              WIKI 23 January 2021 17: 53
              -1
              I did not understand anything from what you said. I tell you what% of its GDP the state allocates for the health of the nation. And you to me?
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 23 January 2021 18: 05
                -1
                and what have the values?
                1. WIKI
                  WIKI 23 January 2021 18: 56
                  -1
                  Isn't the health of the nation a value? Or it's easier to talk about homosexuals and same-sex marriages. So we have them. All this is not regulated by law, but it is not prosecuted either. Something like the fight against alcoholism. Although gender reassignment is also possible with us by law.
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 23 January 2021 19: 01
                    0
                    Quote: WIKI
                    Isn't the health of the nation a value?

                    do you really think that this is valued by money ?!
                  2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 23 January 2021 19: 05
                    -1
                    Quote: WIKI
                    Or it's easier to talk about homosexuals and same-sex marriages.

                    but the attitude towards this is precisely the value
                    1. WIKI
                      WIKI 23 January 2021 19: 44
                      +1
                      To discuss with you, is more expensive for yourself. Cons churning out like a mad printer. Low and mean. Your avatar matches your internal content.
                      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 23 January 2021 21: 42
                        -2
                        Quote: WIKI
                        Low and mean

                        baby you're not at the kindergarten matinee
                        are talking nonsense and want to put pluses for you? !!!
                        remember once and for all Values ​​are what people are ready to die for, but what you think about can only be bought cheaper or more expensive
                        and yes, the amount of money invested does not mean the quality of the output
                      2. WIKI
                        WIKI 24 January 2021 10: 25
                        +1
                        I'm not your kid. Perhaps you are good for me as a son. "You can think about each endlessly, but, in my opinion, these are the most important values ​​- life itself, love and freedom," - Putin. Life is closely related to health.
                      3. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 24 January 2021 11: 28
                        -1
                        Quote: WIKI
                        Perhaps you are good for me as a son.

                        only if you are under 90
                        Quote: WIKI
                        but, in my opinion, these are the most important values ​​- life itself, love and freedom ", - Putin. Life is closely linked with health.

                        damn you are really kidding
                        if your loved ones have a disease, will you love them less? !!!
                        about freedom in general, nonsense a person, in principle, cannot be free
                      4. WIKI
                        WIKI 24 January 2021 12: 08
                        +1
                        So we are of the same age. And to call a person behind the eyes a kid is not a sign of good form. Are you fooling around.
                        Quote: WIKI
                        Or it's easier to talk about homosexuals and same-sex marriages.

                        but the attitude towards this is precisely the value

                        Values ​​are what people are willing to die for

                        Something in my life I have never met cases where people would give their lives for such values. They give their lives for the country, their family. And the little things can be sold for drugs, or a bottle of vodka.
  • Intruder
    Intruder 23 January 2021 10: 04
    -6
    values ​​in Europe are good
    social (and traditional :) in traditional families meaning ... winked ), for various groups of the population .., and other things that are not and will not be in the Russian Federation yet, even a simple example: to shit in the area of ​​the trash can in the park, but this is ahead ... still, I hope !!! I, at the end of my comment, in a good way and (specially) wrote ...
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 23 January 2021 17: 34
      +2
      Quote: Intruder
      shit in the area of ​​the trash can in the park, but this is ahead ... still, I hope !!!

      are you talking about this ?!



      This is called I want lace panties and to Europe
      with us it was all and no worse, I went to the mountains with my father since childhood, no one and when there did not leave garbage, everyone took away with them
  • aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 23 January 2021 11: 16
    +3
    Quote: Intruder
    while the low social culture of our youth does not allow them to effectively solve problems

    low social culture ??? or socialization? Culture is what we, the mature generation, instill, the information background, the implanted system of values. Or low social literacy? because culture is a system of internal limitations. And competent people of our government are not needed, because it is more difficult to manage them, according to Kudrin's apt expression ...
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 23 January 2021 11: 29
      -4
      Or low social literacy? because culture is a system of internal limitations.
      right, which influences the acceptance and assessment of certain social patterns and negative stereotypes in society ... And literate people are generally few, where they are needed ... I absolutely agree with Kudrin :)))
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 23 January 2021 23: 59
        +1
        Quote: Intruder
        I absolutely agree with Kudrin :)))

        Do you want to say that you agree that our state is pursuing an anti-social policy of the cult of consumption enshrined in the Constitution, where the primary goal of the social state is to create conditions that ensure a decent life and free development of a person? while the concept of a decent life and free development is not deciphered, implying personal enrichment and freedom from morality?
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 24 January 2021 04: 13
          -1
          in our state, an anti-social policy of the cult of consumption is being carried out, enshrined in the Constitution, where the primary goal of the social state is to create conditions that ensure a decent life and free development of a person? while the concept of a decent life and free development is not deciphered, implying personal enrichment and freedom from morality?
          already systematically and 30 years, but why agree !? I believe that Kudrin voiced inadvertently just part of the plan, therefore I only agree that the authorities are unnecessary ...
  • Tagan
    Tagan 23 January 2021 08: 49
    +6
    Quote: Divan expert
    Are you satisfied with everything in our country? If yes, then such commentators should put you on a bottle ... Putinoid bots ...

    Are you, piled up, maybe it is okay to use your children in this whole movement? Like meat. YOURS, not strangers.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 23 January 2021 09: 26
      -6
      to use your children in this whole movement?
      When you had to destroy the Soviet Union, people like you also wrote about the 'tear of a child'.
  • Nikolay1987
    Nikolay1987 23 January 2021 08: 51
    +10
    To replace Putin by showing how rich his entourage is, this tactic works only for the narrow-minded. In order to take Putin's place, you need to show that you can do his job more efficiently than he - to help the people. But he has not enough for this (money, connections, brains). Bulk sucker and this is his fate. But as long as he has an army of hamsters, the State Department will always help Aleshka with money.
    1. atalef
      atalef 23 January 2021 09: 15
      -13%
      Quote: Nikolay1987
      To replace Putin by showing how rich his entourage is, this tactic only works for the narrow-minded.

      showing how he and his close circle steals
      Quote: Nikolay1987
      In order to take Putin's place, you need to show that you can do his job more efficiently than he - help the people

      helping the people - mmmmm? No.
      comrade, it is not possible to prove something if a priori I don’t send you anywhere (except for a prison cell)
      Quote: Nikolay1987
      But he has not enough for this (money, connections, brains).

      Well, okay . Putin is president for life. and tomorrow he will nominate Pupkin and all of you will vote for him en masse.
      Quote: Nikolay1987
      Bulk sucker and this is his fate

      a bulk hero, and it's good that there are still people in Russia who are ready to go against the system (so what, but they could definitely buy him if he wanted it)
      I believe him, more than the entire top.
      And what she is trying to do with him is only out of fear.
      Quote: Nikolay1987
      But as long as he has an army of hamsters, the State Department will always help Aleshka with money.

      State Department - how beautiful it is to blame everything on the state. dep.
      1. Deniska999
        Deniska999 23 January 2021 09: 48
        +5
        Does Navalny have an attractive program for rebuilding Russia? Or is it stupid to demolish the current ones, and then we'll see?)
        1. atalef
          atalef 23 January 2021 09: 55
          -8
          Quote: Deniska999
          Does Navalny have an attractive program for rebuilding Russia?

          Maybe there's . You know better. You were generally interested. By the way, why is it necessary to reorganize? Every new president in every other country (where they get re-elected 0 - necessarily rebuilds?
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 23 January 2021 10: 29
            +4
            Quote: atalef
            You know better.

            Originally, you drown behind the bulk, but to know what he wants should we? belay
            By the way, why is it necessary to reorganize?

            Then what does he want?
            Every new president in any other country (where they are reelected 0 - necessarily rebuild?

            When Biden came to power, the first thing he did was to reverse the Trump laws.
            Is this not a re-arrangement?
            1. atalef
              atalef 23 January 2021 10: 36
              -5
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Originally, you drown behind the bulk, but to know what he wants should we?

              I do not drown for Navalny, I speak for freedom of speech and assembly. but today - he is one of the few in Russia who is fighting for it
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Then what does he want?

              well, probably improve the lives of citizens
              Quote: Lipchanin
              When Biden came to power, the first thing he did was to reverse the Trump laws.
              Is this not a re-arrangement?

              you know. cancellation of the decree - reorganization and revolution - reorganization - there is a huge distance between these actions. and you are trying to fit it into one word.
              The world is not divided into black and white - there are 50 more shades of gray.
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 23 January 2021 11: 02
                0
                Quote: atalef
                rebuilding and revolution

                You twist again.
                Where did I talk about the revolution?
                1. atalef
                  atalef 23 January 2021 16: 35
                  -2
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Quote: atalef
                  rebuilding and revolution

                  You twist again.
                  Where did I talk about the revolution?

                  in the word reorganization, you can stick anything you like - from revolution and changing the retirement age, to renovation. Therefore, call a spade a spade
        2. VORON538
          VORON538 23 January 2021 10: 04
          +2
          Passed already ... The drunken Boris also came ... Then there was the slogan "God forbid", and with the active support of the Americans. Yeltsin's feared the coming to power of the Communists, they are afraid even now. Navalner does not reflect the interests of the Russian population, but rather represents the interests of that part of the business that dreams of continuing to sell Russia piece by piece to their friends. The USSR has been destroyed, now it’s Russia's turn, and here is a candidate for the role of Boriska hi
      2. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 23 January 2021 10: 20
        0
        showing how he and his close circle steals ........ yeah. at the high-level liley level, you can hear enough of such news for free at every shop at the entrance, but it's only a waste of time to file a waste of time with the OBS, evidence is needed in the courts, not One Grandma Said ..... but Sisyan's cooperation with agents of foreign influence easily provable ... you can put an end to this question
      3. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 23 January 2021 10: 25
        0
        Quote: atalef
        that there are still people in Russia who are ready to go against the system

        Can't you tell me whose money he goes "against the system" and why he attracts youngsters to these campaigns?
        No need to answer, I know the answer in advance.
      4. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 23 January 2021 11: 52
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        bulk hero

        Navalny is a scenario. Russian heroes were treated only in German concentration camps, but not in hospitals. G. Kernes, for example, in the same Charite was not saved. And the scenario is where the person is a doll. He should have died back in December, as a hero, according to the script, he was rescued, now they are rescuing again because "show must go", and in this performance there must be a victim. He is glad to sit alone, because he worked in Germany.
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 23 January 2021 08: 54
    +3
    And the youngsters are bribed with free money for beer and rolls. In his right mind, Bulk nafig did not bother anyone to freeze for him.
  • Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 23 January 2021 08: 55
    +5
    I approve the bill, a timely and necessary matter.
  • Dmitriy444
    Dmitriy444 23 January 2021 08: 56
    -5
    I do not support the involvement of minors in rallies and riots. But something went wrong in our country. 5, 10 years, but let's get back to such friends 25 years without the right to correspond, why waste time on trifles? 25 and work in two shifts at the already American KRAZ.
    1. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 23 January 2021 09: 01
      +1
      Quote: Dmitriy444
      work in two shifts at the already American KRAZ.

      Pot, KRAZ has long been bankrupt, like the entire auto industry in Ukraine.
      1. Avior
        Avior 23 January 2021 10: 00
        0
        Yes, Krasnoyarsk does not seem to be in Ukraine ...
        1. Quadro
          Quadro 23 January 2021 10: 25
          +4
          Quote: Avior
          Yes, Krasnoyarsk does not seem to be in Ukraine ...

          And you already have Kremenchug Krasnoyarsk? And here such opponents here, they don't even know geography.
    2. NDR-791
      NDR-791 23 January 2021 09: 14
      +3
      25 and work in two shifts at the already American KRAZ.
      I don't know what country you have, but KRAZ is definitely not with us laughing If your skakauskas get 25 each, we won't pay either.
      1. Avior
        Avior 23 January 2021 10: 01
        +2
        He clearly wrote about Krasnoyarsk. KrAZ is there.
        Surprisingly, the Russians know the situation in Ukraine better than in Russia.
    3. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 23 January 2021 09: 14
      +4
      When it comes to the safety of children, there is no need to waste time on trifles, those who use children at the risk of their lives should definitely go to prison. I don't care who it is ... the child should be safe, that's all.
    4. VORON538
      VORON538 23 January 2021 10: 07
      -2
      So you got burned, fat troll (
      Dmitry444 (Dmitry))

      with Square! lol
      KrAZ is Ukraine, you have already rode it !!! hi
      1. Dmitriy444
        Dmitriy444 23 January 2021 10: 28
        +3
        And if you sometimes use at least your head, then how can you send to work in two shifts in Ukraine? KrAZ - Krasnoyarsk Aluminum Smelter.
        1. Avior
          Avior 23 January 2021 10: 47
          -1
          Which was just leaked to the Americans.
          It is very clear how the people were beaten with Ukraine, and not with Russian problems.
      2. Avior
        Avior 23 January 2021 10: 45
        -1
        Do you also live with the problems of Ukraine?
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 23 January 2021 09: 02
    +9
    UK approves bill on criminal punishment for involving minors in rallies
    And this is correct. For not fig.
  • Tagan
    Tagan 23 January 2021 09: 03
    +6
    Quote: Gardamir
    So now minors are not allowed to attend any rally? Or meetings of two categories? Some are supposedly bad, while others are supposedly patriotic. Only here are the boys. that now in power, everyone in the late 80s was invited to democracy, told about the right to vote, the right to hold a meeting. It turns out these rights were good while they were against the Soviet Union. But against the current Nizzzz.

    What should they do there? Adults have the right to vote. To listen to you, so any kindergartener has the right to express his will and political activity.
    And don't mix up gatherings of extremists with events dedicated to public holidays, for example.
    1. sleeve
      sleeve 23 January 2021 09: 36
      +4
      That's right. Again kindergarten "counterarguments". There in black and white about the "illegal". I coordinated the meeting, checked the agenda and set off. If schoolchildren come out in support there I don't know, their teachers, or vice versa, who will say the word? And sensible organizers do not invite teenagers to "politics". This is cumbersome and pointless. It's another matter that our administrations are just drawing figs and the feeling that they sometimes don't give a damn about the Constitution. Then the next step should be. And fast. Public place. Available with relative safety. And not a "permissive" system with a meeting. Yes, get together for any reason, if the law does not contradict. And there are not so many of them "inciting hatred on the basis of", "a call to violent actions" and this is the law. If there is such a "place", there should be just a notification and approval so that the place was free. That is, an open "schedule" of use. Ministry of Internal Affairs - from 300 people-outfit. The rest is order from the organizers. There is an excess on a fine or an article, in short, you are responsible for everything. Including for the difference from the declared and what is happening.
      But one more time. Everything is now and fast. It all happened in cities of 50000 inhabitants and it was normal. And regional centers in any way. Everyone should have the RIGHT. Also, so that it does not turn into a hype, into a social "smuggling", like jeans in the 70s. And this state must "complete" within the framework of the right to freedom of speech. Do not let it down. And to defend the Constitution yourself.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 23 January 2021 09: 39
      0
      Quote: Tagan
      To listen to you, so any kindergartener has the right to express his will and political activity.

      At the level "Down with the teacher and more toys"
  • Sofa expert
    Sofa expert 23 January 2021 09: 03
    -5
    Ros56 you lick further the thieving power .. The revolution always eats its children .. And it will devour you too .. Cancer of conscience ..
  • Ksanatos
    Ksanatos 23 January 2021 09: 05
    +2
    Whiners would like to answer with the words of one successful person whom I know: "... believe me, life is the same everywhere, even in Holland, even in Russia. It all depends on your qualifications. If you are a good specialist, you will find a job everywhere." I agree with him. I admit that I have many opportunities and ideas, but I am lazy, so complaints about the State would be hypocrisy on my part.
    1. Avior
      Avior 23 January 2021 09: 53
      -4
      This is a notion of employers.
      "Needed where was born"
      It is very profitable for them - anyway the employee will come to you, why strain and pay more?
      In fact, in the same EU there is a serious internal labor migration - people are looking for a place where conditions are better, this keeps employers in good shape - you will pay little - workers will leave you, especially good ones.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 23 January 2021 09: 06
    +2
    Have you come to your senses, but before it was impossible? I also do not like much
  • cheburator
    cheburator 23 January 2021 09: 08
    0
    It is high time to send bulk to Kolyma, they will send him to help, and with their parents it is necessary to write out fucking fines!
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 23 January 2021 09: 10
    +3
    They came to their senses. Such a law has long been needed. At least after that snotty "payer" of taxes.
  • anjey
    anjey 23 January 2021 09: 11
    +3
    It comes to the point of absurdity, soon they will start taking toddlers and kindergarteners to the streets, most of them now have a bunch of gadgets and access to different networks, such as "Cheburashka and Winnie the Pooh against Putin" laughing laughing laughingMaybe we can somehow answer, for example, to give ordinary US citizens a Far Eastern hectare and Russian citizenship, I think there will be those who wish. laughing
  • Mykhalych
    Mykhalych 23 January 2021 09: 11
    +1
    Strange, but Article 150 is present in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation
    Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Article 150. Involvement of a minor in the commission of a crime

    1. Involvement of a minor in the commission of a crime by means of promises, deception, threats or in any other way, committed by a person who has reached the age of eighteen, -
    shall be punished by imprisonment for a term of up to five years.
    2. The same deed, committed by a parent, a teacher or any other person who is entrusted by law with the duties of raising a minor, -
    (in the edition of the Federal Law from 02.07.2013 N 185-FZ)
    (see the text in the previous wording)
    shall be punishable by imprisonment for a term of up to six years, with or without deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions or engage in certain activities for a term of up to three years.
    3. Deeds provided for in the first or second part of this Article, committed with the use of violence or with the threat of its use, -
    are punished with imprisonment for a term of two to seven years, with or without restraint of liberty for a term of up to two years.
    (in the edition of the Federal Law from 27.12.2009 N 377-FZ)
    (see the text in the previous wording)
    4. Acts provided for in parts one, two or three of this article, related to the involvement of a minor in a criminal group or in the commission of a grave or especially grave crime, as well as in the commission of a crime based on political, ideological, racial, national or religious hatred or enmity, or for reasons of hatred or enmity against any social group, -
    (in the edition of the Federal Law from 24.07.2007 N 211-FZ)
    (see the text in the previous wording)
    are punished with imprisonment for a term of five to eight years, with or without restraint of liberty for a term of up to two years.
    (in the edition of the Federal Law from 27.12.2009 N 377-FZ)

    Taki Oloshela can develop for a fairly solid period (and God forbid that it would be so) .In addition to the existing conditional + Part 4 of Article 159 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, and Article 150 until Part 2, but they can also impose Part 4 .. ... wink Right now it is more profitable for him to pretend to be insane ..., although he is.
    1. AUL
      AUL 23 January 2021 12: 25
      +2
      Quote: Mykhalych
      Involvement of a minor in the commission crime

      That is, what the Constitution guarantees to us, you consider a crime?
  • Moonsund
    Moonsund 23 January 2021 09: 12
    +3
    I do not like at all that laws are written in haste to fit the situation. This is alarming, but the authorities have already compromised themselves, this is not obvious only to the very stubborn. I do not care how the issues of rallies are resolved in the USA, I am worried about our children. The situation screams that the vomit that the State Duma and other powers that be are feeding us is not hawking. Nobody is involved in the upbringing of growing up, as well as everyone else. Here is the result. This will be done by the rogue Navalny and other crooks who, in my deep conviction, will not bring anything but confusion, because they do not have a program and the necessary qualities. In short, it’s a fig business to involve minors in politics, but that is the fault of the one who brought up his oligarchs and doesn’t understand that his time is gone, he has nothing more to offer people. But he could become the greatest President in history, who stopped the disintegration and gave the country a new vector, but he would be old, boring, choked up, silicone and God knows what else he will be called. Very sorry
    1. Klingon
      Klingon 23 January 2021 09: 37
      0
      you have perhaps the only balanced comment, I think you noticed correctly. Someone's time has passed and there is nothing to offer. What is Pu's vector ?? there is no it .. In the USSR there was a vector and there was a desire to achieve something, develop science, conquer space, and so on. and now no one has any enthusiasm. Teens see what they see. And they see that in order to break out "into the people" now they do not need high ideals and knowledge. The main thing is to get settled in the "right" place and quickly forget the concept of "conscience"
      The huckster mentality is firmly established in the minds of the people.
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 23 January 2021 10: 24
      +4
      Quote: Moonsund
      The situation screams that .......... no one is involved in the upbringing of the growing up, as well as everyone else

      The upper, "elected, hired workers" drew all the rights to themselves .... most of the responsibilities were pushed onto us, down.
      Well settled in !!!
      We, too, are good ... we live by the principle, if only it does not become WORSE!
      And worse, it has come and will be even worse, if YOURSELF, ALL TOGETHER, do not harness the process of managing OUR LIFE, OUR STATE.
      Now, only to look for the most guilty, it is a lost cause, the situation must be corrected!
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 23 January 2021 09: 23
    +1
    A very correct law. It is high time.
  • Tagan
    Tagan 23 January 2021 09: 27
    +2
    Quote: BISMARCK94
    Isn't it nonsense to coordinate rallies with those you oppose?)

    Delirium - obey the laws? Clear.
    What do you say to that?

    Those. this means that a herd of rams is recruited by default. These are our progressive bulk.
    In your opinion - normal.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 23 January 2021 10: 06
      -4
      Those. this means that a herd of rams is recruited by default. These are our progressive bulk.
      a corrupt new generation of Russia of the Future, for 500 rubles and a few cuffs with a special stick .., it's sad all somehow :(