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When hitting targets in Hama, Israeli Air Force planes fell into the zone of possible destruction of the S-300 air defense system of the Syrian army

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It became known about the next Israeli air strike on the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic. Syrian news sources report that the Israeli aviation carried out a missile attack on some areas of Hama province.


The reports say that the Syrian air defense systems located in the specified province reacted to the Israeli missile attack. The SANA news agency writes that most of the missiles fired by Israeli planes were intercepted by anti-aircraft missile systems.

These reports attract special attention due to the fact that it is in the province of Hama that the S-300 systems supplied from the Russian Federation for the needs of Syrian air defense are deployed. The Israeli military command, perfectly aware of the risks to its pilots in this regard, ordered to strike targets in Hama without entering Syrian airspace.

According to the latest reports, Israeli planes were firing missiles at targets in Hama from Lebanese airspace. The attack was carried out at about 4 am local time. At that moment, Israeli planes were located near the Lebanese settlement of Halba - northeast of the port of Tripoli. The distance from the Lebanese Halba to the Syrian city of Masyaf, where, as previously reported, the CAA is deploying the S-300 air defense system, is less than 60 km. Thus, Israeli aircraft fell into the affected area of ​​these anti-aircraft missile systems (S-300) of the Syrian army.

When crossing the air borders of the SAR, the Israeli combat aircraft themselves would turn into targets with a high probability of striking them from the ground. But the Israeli aviation again chose to act ("prudently") from the airspace of a neighboring state.

The Israeli military department has traditionally not commented on the strikes against targets in Syria and the effectiveness / ineffectiveness of these strikes.
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  1. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 22 January 2021 09: 00
    0
    Today it’s zhuma, you can’t fight.
    1. voronin
      voronin 22 January 2021 14: 35
      +12
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Today is a gum, you can't fight

      And tomorrow is Shabbat
    2. Volga073
      Volga073 22 January 2021 19: 37
      -1
      It has long been necessary to hit the Israeli airfields, and not chase their missiles ..
      1. Adimius38
        Adimius38 22 January 2021 20: 42
        -2
        Who will hit them: a full plane with Russian guys was sent to the cemetery and what? nothing.
        1. hrych
          hrych 22 January 2021 23: 28
          +1
          Do you know? The plane was shot down not by the Israelis, but by the crooked-handed Syrian anti-aircraft gunners. And who to beat then the Assadis. Yes, like the Israelis made a provocative maneuver, Duc does not mean that you have to hit all targets in a row. The Syrians are being trained, there are already positive results, the enemy does not fly into the territory, most of the missiles are intercepted. And since the strike is delivered from behind the Lebanese mountains, then you need to be able to monitor the air situation with over-the-horizon means that Syria does not have and use over-the-horizon anti-aircraft missiles, which the Syrians, for obvious reasons, do not trust and is correct.
          1. Adimius38
            Adimius38 24 January 2021 08: 39
            -2
            and you do not know that the setup was Israeli or it is somehow silent. Or hiding behind a transport board does not count
            1. ironic
              ironic 26 January 2021 19: 52
              0
              Do you not know that a) this is impossible, b) they were not there at the time of the shooting down for a long time, or blood libel is it familiar to you?
      2. ironic
        ironic 26 January 2021 19: 51
        0
        You personally and hit. What are you calling others for? Raise your couch in the air and attack.
  2. Cowbra
    Cowbra 22 January 2021 09: 02
    0
    Well, traditionally - from the territory of a foreign state, and by the way, once again about the birds. You all have such invisible, invisible F-35s, and how did the S-300 see them? And what are you afraid to bomb from Syrian territory? You are "invisible"! Or is it all linden, as usual?
    1. faiver
      faiver 22 January 2021 09: 10
      +7
      The Israelis most likely used the good old F-16
    2. barclay
      barclay 22 January 2021 09: 13
      +6
      Why not shoot down over Lebanese territory?
      I think the reason for the silence of the S-300 is not in the territory of a neighboring state, which provides its airspace for enemy actions.
      For all the declared performance characteristics for the S-300, a range of 60 km is not a problem.
      1. ironic
        ironic 26 January 2021 19: 58
        0
        Because they do not want to rebuild Beirut, which lies in ruins.
    3. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 22 January 2021 09: 17
      +20
      Quote: Cowbra
      Well, traditionally - from the territory of a foreign state, and by the way, once again about the birds. You all have such invisible, invisible F-35s, and how did the S-300 see them? And what are you afraid to bomb from Syrian territory? You are "invisible"! Or is it all linden, as usual?

      In your opinion, the stealth plane should look like this?

      The next time the pilots on a mission will definitely go to the drumbeat, in parade formation, with banners unfurled. hi
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 22 January 2021 09: 29
        -5
        What does MY opinion have to do with it, when this is a story from the United States and Israel about the meaning of the existence of such a freak like the F-35? According to them, he is absolutely stealth, his newest air defense systems cannot be seen, let alone the ancient S-300 ... I have something to do with it? I didn't drive such a blizzard
        1. Sergey Sfiedu
          Sergey Sfiedu 23 January 2021 19: 53
          +1
          How do you know that the Syrians saw exactly the F-35? And in general you saw something? And that something was shot down? SANA wrote? No, by the way, SANA did not write anything about the F-35, although they could, and this news agency constantly writes about the downed missiles and bombs, regardless of whether it was actually shot down or not. "Why should they, Jews, feel sorry for that."
        2. ironic
          ironic 26 January 2021 19: 57
          0
          I still understand when they write about the beauty of such machines as the F-15 or the Mig-31, but when the humpbacked freaks 27 and their closest relatives are in service, and the 35 is an ugly penguin, well, this is the right to fly for sure.
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 22 January 2021 09: 36
        +2
        Quote: A. Privalov
        Next time pilots on a mission will definitely go to the drumbeat

        Are the pilots invisible too? repeat
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 22 January 2021 10: 39
          +4
          Sergey, hi !
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Are the pilots invisible too?

          But what about ... They are supplied complete with aircraft from the USA. They even have a textbook on the invisibility of pilots laughing
        2. Piramidon
          Piramidon 22 January 2021 10: 55
          +1
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Are the pilots invisible too?

          And immortals.
          1. ironic
            ironic 26 January 2021 19: 59
            0
            Well trained, this is +80 karma.
      3. hydrox
        hydrox 22 January 2021 11: 19
        +3
        No, this is just a commentator who, instead of Lada, prefers an armored personnel carrier and thinks that UN sanctions are like candy wrappers to a kindergarten
    4. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 22 January 2021 09: 20
      +14
      Quote: Cowbra
      Well, traditionally - from the territory of a foreign state, and by the way, once again about the birds. You all have such invisible, invisible F-35s, and how did the S-300 see them? And what are you afraid to bomb from Syrian territory? You are "invisible"! Or is it all linden, as usual?

      This is not about the territory of another state - the only F-16, shot down during the raids on Syria, was dropped over the territory of Israel.
      They just work like this:
      They fly in ultra-small ones (the S-300 sees them from 30-40 km), then they make a slide. In parallel with the hill, another papelac attacks them with electronic warfare means, glowing like a Christmas tree. While they are cleaned, they will be brought in, the aviation will fire back and go to the ultra-small ones, using different electronic warfare methods.
      Therefore, the Syrians can only shoot at various missiles, bombs, false ones, including tags of radio-electronic warfare, and real ones. And what they bomb with - F-5 or F-35, in this situation, do not care. hi
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 22 January 2021 09: 34
        -12%
        Actually, I was talking about that:
        Quote: Krasnodar
        And what they bomb - F-5 or F-35, in this situation, do not care.

        Those. F-35 is a profanation. Even with such a scenario as you described, they do not need stealth. and most likely, more fun - it, stealth, and not in sight.
        However, there is one aspect. Dropping an Israeli plane attacking Syria on Israeli territory is one thing. And to drop it on the territory of Libya is an attack on Libya. That in the UN can be considered as the aggression of Syria against Libya with all kinds of results up to the introduction of a contingent of troops under the auspices of the UN, in a fig situation. Well, the UN is so objective and fair
        1. indy424
          indy424 22 January 2021 09: 47
          +13
          very nice to hear the authoritative opinion of an expert who is in the subject. Thank you. now we still need to learn where Libya is, and what is the difference between Libya and Lebanon
        2. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 22 January 2021 09: 47
          +6
          Lebanon is more of a gateway to Syria than Israel. If the Jewish occupation of the Lebanese territory (south) ended in the 2000s, then the Syrian one - in 2005, and Assad in Beirut is a real force to be reckoned with and not a single government of the country in its right mind will submit against him to the UN Security Council, especially the Lebanese treat the Israelis as an enemy.
          About F-35 - not in the know. At one time, the Israelis drool over him, watching on the radar screen in the States the visibility of him and the little-visible F-15.
          Regarding the need - the Syrian-Iraqi border was bombed from the territory of Syria hi
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 22 January 2021 19: 25
            +4
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Lebanon is more of a courtyard

            Servicemen of the Airspace Control Center of the 91st Territorial Division of Galilee found a drone in the Israeli sky that crossed the border into Lebanon and headed deep into Israeli territory.
            To intercept the intruder drone, electronic means of suppressing control and navigation signals were used.

            At the time of the interception, the UAV, the type of which was not reported, went deep into Israeli territory by about 150 m. As a result, the Lebanese drone landed in the area of ​​Kibbutz Hanit, after which they began to study its contents.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 22 January 2021 20: 47
              +1
              Or bought on Ali-express or Persian single-channel. I think - the first.
              1. A. Privalov
                A. Privalov 23 January 2021 00: 39
                +5
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Or bought on Ali-express or Persian single-channel. I think - the first.

                I will not say for sure, but judging by the rumors, the wingspan there was up to 1,5 m and the fuselage was of quite decent volume. The sappers danced over him for a long time with a tambourine - they were afraid that there was explosives. But nothing happened.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 23 January 2021 02: 00
                  +2
                  Perhaps Persian - the security of its control channels, in this case, leaves much to be desired
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        4. andreykolesov123
          andreykolesov123 22 January 2021 11: 55
          +4
          Quote: Cowbra
          And dropping it on the territory of Libya is an attack on Libya

          The Zionists are completely morose, they will soon attack Mauritania. Everyone is building their Great Israel from the Sahara Desert to the Gobi.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 22 January 2021 12: 42
            +6
            Quote: andreykolesov123

            The Zionists are completely morose, they will soon attack Mauritania. Everyone is building their Great Israel from the Sahara Desert to the Gobi.

            From Venezuela to the DPRK, from Havana to Islamabad, we hear the formidable NO PASARAN - a ban on Zionists from visiting a public bathroom for a long time! am
        5. IAF
          IAF 22 January 2021 12: 07
          +4
          What does Libya have to do with it? wassat
        6. Vladislav Trofimov
          Vladislav Trofimov 22 January 2021 20: 24
          +2
          Cowbra
          you're also illiterate ...
          Libya in Africa ...
        7. ironic
          ironic 26 January 2021 20: 02
          0
          Needed, but not for this. You are poorly educated, you do not understand why.
      2. venik
        venik 22 January 2021 12: 31
        +8
        Quote: Krasnodar
        They just work like this:
        They fly in ultra-small ones (the S-300 sees them from 30-40 km), then they make a slide. In parallel with the hill, another papelac attacks them with electronic warfare means, glowing like a Christmas tree. While they are cleaned, they will be brought in, the aviation will fire back and go to the ultra-small ones, using different electronic warfare methods.

        ========
        It's not just that .... Just along the border of Syria and Lebanon runs the chain of Lebanese mountains:


        And they are high enough! Well, not the Caucasus, of course, but close to that. The highest peak is 3 km! There is eternal snow and year-round ski resorts ...

        Moreover, the width of the mountain is only 40 km! Ideal barrier for radar and electronic warfare and RTR systems!
        It is precisely with this mountain range that the Israelites, like a shield, are covering themselves! Moreover - on the territory of Syria - there are NO great heights there! From the word "in general"! Putting the radar station "on a high mountain" - it just doesn't work! You can only view part of the territory of Lebanon from the north - for example from the Tartus area. But the distances there are quite large - approx. 200 km! In a timely manner notice low-flying goals are very difficult! And to shoot down is almost impossible! They manage to make a "slide", shoot and again go to ultra-low heights ...
        So the Israelis use the geography very SUCCESSFULLY!
        The only option effective fight is to install air defense systems in Lebanon! But the Lebanese will never agree to this - they will be afraid!
        1. huntsman650
          huntsman650 22 January 2021 21: 12
          0
          In the forest they put crossbows on the beast, and put them on the trail?)))
        2. KLV
          KLV 23 January 2021 11: 08
          +2
          Or use the AWACS system. But there are problems and difficulties here.
          The third option is to install a radar station from the Mediterranean Sea.
          1. venik
            venik 23 January 2021 13: 52
            0
            Quote: KLV
            Or use the AWACS system.

            =========
            Yes, that's an option! But WHERE to get so many AWACS? This is the first .... Do the Syrians have AWACS? request Unfortunately no!!! And if there were - WHAT would change? Never mind!!! request
    5. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock 22 January 2021 09: 28
      +7
      Quote: Cowbra
      And what are you afraid to bomb from Syrian territory?

      But why?
      They drop bombs from the distance from which they reach the target.
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 22 January 2021 09: 48
        -8
        Quote: Jacket in stock
        But why?

        And then. that the managed and the planners are expensive. If you have invisibility, it's easier to fly up and drop a cheap one on the top. this is actually the point of developing a supposedly stealth - an air defense breakthrough. Air defense there is ancient ... Yes, and according to the Pentagon tales, no F-35 air defense can see, right? Or not? Judging by the actions of the six-pointed - very specifically "wrong"
        1. andreykolesov123
          andreykolesov123 22 January 2021 11: 57
          +4
          Quote: Cowbra
          And then. that the managed and the planners are expensive.

          It is cheaper to throw grenades from a corn plant like in the First World War.
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra 22 January 2021 12: 24
            -5
            That is why, for example, the United States is going to buy propeller-driven attack aircraft - cheaper. And in fact - with grenades.
            But this is not the point - is the F-35 capable of doing what it was designed for? If it is invulnerable to air defense, because it is invisible with them, as it was stated, it is necessary to get grenades from the basket, using the strengths of the F-35, because IT IS DESIGNED FOR THIS.
            And if they do not use it, it means, as usual, LIED
        2. IAF
          IAF 22 January 2021 12: 11
          +5
          Are you worried about the Israeli budget? laughing
        3. Maki Avellevich
          Maki Avellevich 22 January 2021 15: 22
          +7
          Carpet, you have already noted about Libya, I think they have enough expertise for svgodnya.
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra 22 January 2021 15: 42
            -7
            I have developed topographic cretinism, so what? Does it change the essence of what I said? No. And on the topic, you can't argue with me, so that's enough - for you.
            1. andreykolesov123
              andreykolesov123 22 January 2021 17: 16
              +8
              Quote: Cowbra
              topographical cretinism

              don't be shy.
        4. Sergey Sfiedu
          Sergey Sfiedu 23 January 2021 19: 58
          0
          "And then. That the managed and the planners are expensive." - our poverty is our problem. The whole world has already switched to guided munitions.
        5. ironic
          ironic 26 January 2021 20: 03
          0
          The use of gravity bombs leads to cliché losses among the civilians. Israel does not need this.
    6. Piramidon
      Piramidon 22 January 2021 10: 59
      +3
      Quote: Cowbra
      You all have such invisible, invisible F-35s, and how did the S-300 see them?

      The term "invisible" was invented by idle journalists, and you picked it up. But in fact, they are few, but noticeable
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 22 January 2021 11: 18
        -7
        The bottom line is, there is a propaganda cliche that the F-35 are invulnerable, because the air defense does not see them. STAMP. Which is screwed in hard here too. Call it whatever you like - inconspicuous, air defense breakthrough fighters, whatever. But the point is that there is no such thing, and everyone can see them perfectly. They catch perfectly - and there is more - only the anti-missile cover saved it, so obviously - the money for the F-35 was wasted - they are perfectly visible
        1. ironic
          ironic 26 January 2021 20: 05
          0
          You are constantly writing some nonsense. Aren't you bored? Maybe back to school?
    7. IAF
      IAF 22 January 2021 12: 00
      +8
      What is the meaning of the commentary? Should have been a straight line to Damascus under the drums? Have you heard about the tactics?
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 22 January 2021 12: 38
        -3
        Heard, heard. And we have also heard about the strategy of inflicting damage on the enemy with minimal costs. You've heard. Why did the United States in Afghanistan switch to carpet bombing back in 2001? Then in Iraq the same way. Because driving a couple of barmaley in a penny jeep with a driver who costs like all Iraqi jeeps is to damage yourself.
        I repeat the question - if these F-35s are so invisible, why do they not cause damage with minimal costs? There can be only one answer in the field of reason - because about the invisibility of these F-35 LIES.
        Here's all the tactics. And what is the meaning of your comment, may I ask? I just answered ...
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 22 January 2021 12: 52
          +8
          Yes, he is hardly noticeable, there is no such thing in nature - "invisible". The question is, from what distance it is noticeable - if it is less than that from which the F-35 pilot is able to launch a missile at an air defense radar or an enemy aircraft, then the penguin is effective. If it is noticeable from a greater distance, then no hi
        2. IAF
          IAF 22 January 2021 13: 00
          +8
          To begin with, they are not invisible, but inconspicuous. And why did you decide that it was we who bombed 35? Their presence in Israel does not mean that now all operations are carried out by means of 35s and the rest of the air force of the Air Force must stand idle ...
          Ultimately, if the material and financial base allows it to be done from the Lebanese airspace, thereby reducing risks even in the amount of a fraction of a dozen percent, then why reinvent the wheel?
          Did you strike recently on the Syrian-Iraqi border, would you also say from Lebanese territory? No! Have you been noticed? No! Here is your answer about the priorities for the use of this or that type of weapon.
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra 22 January 2021 13: 19
            -7
            I have not heard about the strike on the border. For the beginning or the end, I will repeat to you. what about INVULNERABILITY for the 5th generation air defense - not my words. The United States can play around with Izrailovka as much as they want, but they have repeatedly voiced BIKE that they are not afraid of the gray wolf, i.e. any air defense - and this is absolutely not visible in two aspects - bombing from the territory of a neutral state and the ban on stealth flights, for example, in the zone of Turkish S-400s.
            Second, there is air defense in Syria, the reason for the development of the F-35 was ONE! That he would work with impunity in the zone. where it is opposed by air defense and if in this case it is there does not work, it does not matter for whatever reason, the fact is one: F-35 BES-ON-LES-ZEN!
            I don't care why. Whether it is expensive, whether the resource is quickly depleting, or it is banal about the invulnerability of LIES - in all cases it is useless and is a classic cut. And this is a fact.
            1. IAF
              IAF 22 January 2021 13: 50
              +5
              Quote: Cowbra
              does not work,

              Who decided that he did not work there? I have the feeling that you yourself are persuading yourself to believe that it is useless. I'm for watermelons, and you went for mushrooms.
              1. Cowbra
                Cowbra 22 January 2021 15: 45
                -3
                What kind of watermelons? I repeat to you for the twentieth time, if the F-35 is not used in the area for which it was developed, then the money is thrown away. What are you talking about? Tactics, material and financial base. I showed you that both tactically and financially - to use controllers for penny purposes in the event that the F-35 are WORKABLE, and not FAVORED that they are efficient - stupidity. You talked about mushrooms in response.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 22 January 2021 16: 41
                  +6
                  Was the purpose of demolishing the S-300 batteries? Once again, I do not know if it is good or bad - F-35, but in this case its use from Lebanon it would be inappropriate hi
                  As for the managers for penny purposes, I do not agree. Even if the training of a fighter by some Fatimun costs 1000 tanks, he theoretically can kill at least one soldier of the Israeli infantry with training from 70 thousand tanks, which, in addition to moral and ethical damage, can lead to additional government spending on payments to the family of the deceased soldier - the amount there are also considerable. Therefore - depending on how you count)).
                  1. Cowbra
                    Cowbra 22 January 2021 18: 34
                    -2
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    Was the purpose of demolishing the S-300 batteries?

                    This is a versatile combat aircraft that, in theory, even replaces attack aircraft, and IS replacing without question. But it does not apply Conclusion - did not replace.
                    About that. that the militant should be killed - was out of the question! It was about why the F-35, officially sharpened for this task, in this case either was not used. or the air defense worked out on them - and the Israeli anti-aircraft gunners had to save them, i.e. F-35 screwed up
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 22 January 2021 20: 41
                      +1
                      laughing
                      Tell me, what will you take with you to clean the hut - the AKS-74U or a sophisticated sniper rifle?
                      1. Cowbra
                        Cowbra 22 January 2021 20: 52
                        -5
                        What a hut. there in the air defense S-300, and "Fat Drystun" was developed for this. Do you want to conduct a dialogue at this level? I'm just too lazy, but stupid to include and I can. zasim - goodbyte
                      2. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 22 January 2021 21: 00
                        +4
                        Well, yes, I forgot - the S-300 is guided in a second, it shoots in a second ... how could I recourse
                      3. Cowbra
                        Cowbra 22 January 2021 21: 19
                        -3
                        However, according to these farts, he managed to hang up and shoot, so that the "cunning" fell, in addition to the dough, to the managers, who are not yet a fact. that they didn't knock them down the road, for the expense of anti-missiles ... But don't worry, the main thing is that the sect of dristun-worshipers is delighted - this raid proved unfounded, sho the fat drist is a breakthrough in science, like a Teslamobile in space
                      4. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 22 January 2021 21: 31
                        +4
                        I think that it is used to attack on the border of Syria and Iraq - there you can't do it all the way on ultra-small ones)): And in this case - as I wrote above, you can use anything you want. hi
                        As for the managers - once again, in countries like Israel money is considered differently smile
  3. Sergey Sfiedu
    Sergey Sfiedu 23 January 2021 20: 01
    0
    "Have you heard. Why did the United States in Afghanistan switch to carpet bombing back in 2001? Then it was the same in Iraq." - Did you do it? From time to time I came across something about the use of NATO aircraft in Afghanistan - there was not a word about carpet bombing there. But about the use of guided ammunition - constantly.
  • Vadim F
    Vadim F 17 February 2021 11: 21
    0
    that's when you shoot down the F-35 before it gets bombed, then you’ll joke about visibility / invisibility. until now, there have been no such cases.
  • Professor
    Professor 22 January 2021 09: 19
    +3
    When crossing the air borders of the SAR, the Israeli combat aircraft themselves would turn into targets with a high probability of striking them from the ground.

    We saw how the one who did not shoot down a single S-300 aircraft worked in Azerbaijan. There was no smell of "high probability".

    But the Israeli aviation again chose to act ("prudently") from the airspace of a neighboring state

    Recently, the Liechtenstein Air Force struck Syrian-Iraqi border. Again, the Israeli aviation again preferred to act ("prudently") from the airspace of a neighboring state? wassat

    Articles about nothing. negative
  • DmSol
    DmSol 22 January 2021 09: 24
    +4
    Quote: barclay
    Why not shoot down over Lebanese territory?
    I think the reason for the silence of the S-300 is not in the territory of a neighboring state, which provides its airspace for enemy actions.
    For all the declared performance characteristics for the S-300, a range of 60 km is not a problem.
    There is a politician ...

    The effectiveness depends on the terrain. About 60 km - you need to look at the zones, maybe not everything is so simple. Well, suppose the operator saw the target on the territory of a neighboring state. At what point are you going to shoot down? Right now, how did you spot it? Or how did you shoot? It’s useless to start up.
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 22 January 2021 09: 36
      +3
      Quote: DmSol
      Well, suppose the operator saw the target on the territory of a neighboring state.


      Please comment on this attack, Liechtenstein states.
  • Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 22 January 2021 09: 26
    +9
    If the range of ammunition allows you to operate without entering the airspace, then this is exactly what should be done.
    This is optimal.
    That is why they were invented.
    And if the Syrians do not shoot back, it is not because they cannot, but because they do not want to.
    More precisely, they cannot afford it.
    He and Israel are in too different weight classes to get involved in a full-scale war. They have no chance, so they listlessly brush it off and endure-endure-endure.
    Ours also tolerate, because we also cannot afford.
    For stretch your legs on your clothes.
    In order to fight someone, you must first grow a warrior on all fronts - military-technical, economic, political ...
    And with the economy we "have always had a crisis recently", science and technology are at the level of the last century, respectively, politicians have to whine quietly from the counter. Express concern and endure-endure-endure ...
    This is the lot of the weak.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 22 January 2021 09: 46
      -14%
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      endure-endure-endure ...
      This is the lot of the weak.

      You, most importantly, when it becomes completely unbearable, have time to reach the "point" so as not to splatter anyone with the products of your patience. yes The trouble is the trouble ...
    2. Iris
      Iris 22 January 2021 19: 12
      +2
      Ours also tolerate, because we also cannot afford.


      They do not tolerate it, but secretly support it, since the blows are delivered to the Iranian "tentacles", which is very good for us.
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  • Tagan
    Tagan 22 January 2021 09: 30
    0
    Quote: barclay
    Why not shoot down over Lebanese territory?
    I think the reason for the silence of the S-300 is not in the territory of a neighboring state, which provides its airspace for enemy actions.

    Syria still lacks the league with Lebanon, especially since Israel does not specifically ask permission.
  • A.K.
    A.K. 22 January 2021 09: 39
    +2
    Most likely our specialists are sitting on these c300. And we with Israel have certain agreements that are still being observed otherwise all this is inexplicable. Everything there is very, very difficult.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 22 January 2021 13: 04
      +9
      No. The complexes were handed over to the Syrians. Before that, there was an S-400 battery at this place.
      Here it was ruled by the Russians. When the S-300 was brought in and handed over to the Syrians, the S-400 was removed.
      Israel does not touch the S-300 as long as it does not interfere with work on Iranian facilities in Syria.
      1. Alexander Galaktionov
        Alexander Galaktionov 22 January 2021 14: 19
        +2
        So Israel launched GBU-39 this time The Syrians have already published the remains of their
      2. A.K.
        A.K. 22 January 2021 14: 48
        0
        Why then are the Syrians not working on Israeli aircraft?
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 22 January 2021 15: 03
          +9
          Rockets are expensive. And the chances are almost zero. Mountains, electronic warfare, target baits.
          Go tell the difference ... If you are mistaken, they will not be praised.
          The Syrian major who fired the S-200 at the Il-20 was punished.
          Although he received general permission to fire. But I didn't realize in the heat,
          that hits a large target such as "AWACS".
          1. A.K.
            A.K. 22 January 2021 16: 48
            +2
            In this case, it makes no sense to keep them there. It's just that they were probably put there not against Israel, but to besiege the coalition. And with the Jews there is clearly not easy.
            1. Iris
              Iris 22 January 2021 19: 18
              +2
              It's just that they were probably put there not against Israel, but to besiege the coalition.


              At the official level, it was announced: "S-300 are sent to Syria NOT AGAINST THIRD COUNTRIES." And it was right after the incident with the unfortunate Il-20. We can assume that these words say directly: the main task of the S-300 is to make it impossible to repeat such a case.
              1. A.K.
                A.K. 22 January 2021 19: 55
                0
                In my opinion, the c300 should be thrown there after the US attack with axes on the airfield, isn't it?
                1. Iris
                  Iris 23 January 2021 01: 08
                  +2
                  I give a quote and link:

                  Dmitry Peskov: “Here, everyone should be aware of the need for Russia's actions to strengthen the security of its military. Therefore, in this case, Russia is guided exclusively by these interests. These actions are not directed against third countries, they are aimed at protecting our own military. "

                  https://www.ntv.ru/novosti/2077724/
                  1. A.K.
                    A.K. 23 January 2021 09: 41
                    0
                    I agree, but here it comes out until there is a threat to our military from 300 will be silent. Therefore, most likely, the Syrian in fact did not transfer these complexes. Something like this.
                    1. Iris
                      Iris 23 January 2021 13: 54
                      +1
                      It also seems to me that - even if the calculations of the complexes are entirely Syrian - the command for a combat launch will not be executed without confirmation from our headquarters.
                      Only this circumstance can explain everything. In this case, the transfer of the complexes to the Syrians for operation is just a bureaucratic formality.
                      In any case, such a practice is not to interfere with limited (and very careful, it should be noted) strikes by the Israelis on the Guard Corps; this, in my opinion, is a very diplomatic decision, which, at the same time, fully coincides with the urgent tasks of our presence in the SAR.
                      1. A.K.
                        A.K. 23 January 2021 17: 55
                        +1
                        Well, about something like that. Lavrov recently tried to find out from Israel how Iran is threatening from the territory of Syria, but there was no clear answer. They promised to further resolve this issue diplomatically.
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 22 January 2021 09: 49
    -6
    For some reason, the thought that the planes fell into the affected area does not warm. If only, if only. And terrorists bomb and bomb everything. Once they would have been sniffed, the arrogance would have gone right away.
    1. Iris
      Iris 22 January 2021 19: 19
      +4
      What terrorists?
    2. Vitaly Petrov_3
      Vitaly Petrov_3 23 January 2021 23: 14
      -1
      We need to invite the Houthis and settle them in the mountains ... they will knock them down ...
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 January 2021 09: 50
    +5
    If there is some kind of agreement, about which many have written and discussed earlier, they have struck, they will, and will continue to strike as long as these agreements exist. That's all the prose of life.
  • DmSol
    DmSol 22 January 2021 10: 00
    -2
    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
    Quote: DmSol
    Well, suppose the operator saw the target on the territory of a neighboring state.


    Please comment on this attack, Liechtenstein states.

    What kind of comments are you waiting for? Do you need to evaluate the efficiency of the complex when installed in a given area? Or do you need a guaranteed kill zone in the Gollan area? What do you want, please chew.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 22 January 2021 10: 11
      +1
      It is about "Israelis do not fly into Syria."
      1. DmSol
        DmSol 22 January 2021 14: 31
        +1
        the Israelis do not enter the zones of guaranteed defeat. And yes, when the XNUMXth appeared, they had to change their tactics.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 22 January 2021 14: 55
          +6
          You must be alternatively gifted to attack from the zone of guaranteed defeat laughing
        2. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 22 January 2021 18: 17
          +2
          Quote: DmSol
          the Israelis do not enter the zones of guaranteed defeat.

          If there are no air defense systems at a distance of about 600 km, what are they guarding?
    2. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 22 January 2021 18: 14
      +3
      Quote: DmSol
      What kind of comments are you waiting for?

      How Liechtenstein planes fly over the territory of Syria about 600 km as in a parade and
      destroy 18 objects?
  • musorg
    musorg 22 January 2021 11: 35
    -1
    If Lebanon allows Israel, then Syria can be shied away over Lebanon, eh?
    1. andreykolesov123
      andreykolesov123 22 January 2021 12: 00
      +6
      Quote: musorg
      If Lebanon allows Israel, then Syria can be shied away over Lebanon, eh?

      Can. Only Syria needs to supply missiles not surface-to-air, but surface-to-air
    2. IAF
      IAF 22 January 2021 12: 04
      +3
      And Lebanon does not allow that. Even at the UN he sometimes complains.
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  • Alexander Galaktionov
    Alexander Galaktionov 22 January 2021 13: 57
    0
    They used GBU-39 and hit civilians negative
  • Shahno
    Shahno 22 January 2021 15: 11
    0
    Quote: voronin
    Quote: Pessimist22
    Today it is a ghuma, you cannot fight

    And tomorrow is Shabbat

    Really ... Well, Shabbat,
  • denk20
    denk20 22 January 2021 16: 23
    -4
    It would be time for the Jews to block off the "adjacent" states. And after all, Russia can really arrange a no-fly zone there.
    1. Iris
      Iris 22 January 2021 19: 22
      +5
      WHY do we need it?
  • Andrey.AN
    Andrey.AN 22 January 2021 16: 34
    -1
    It's just that Benjamin Netanyahu, whipping up anti-Semitism in the world over the past ten years, has almost doubled the population of Israel, in fact, regulating the number of the country's population by attacks on neighbors. The question is what does this mean in the long run.
    1. Iris
      Iris 22 January 2021 19: 28
      +4
      I always knew that all anti-Semites are nerds. Well this is necessary - they obediently dance to Netanyahu's tune! laughing
    2. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 22 January 2021 19: 30
      +1
      Quote: Andrey.AN
      Benjamin Netanyahu has spurred anti-Semitism around the world to almost double the population of Israel over the past ten years


      You're lying.
      1. Andrey.AN
        Andrey.AN 22 January 2021 19: 59
        -1
        Yes, do you think so? Say what you like, from 2000 to 2009, the population of Israel has slightly decreased. But from 2009 to the present day, Netanyahu took three and a half million goyim, to the five and a half million aborigines.
        1. The eye of the crying
          The eye of the crying 22 January 2021 20: 02
          +3
          Quote: Andrey.AN
          Yes, do you think so?


          I know that.

          Quote: Andrey.AN
          But from 2009 to the present day, Netanyahu received three and a half million goyim, to five and a half million aborigines


          It's a lie. Since 2009, the population of Israel has increased by ~ 1.5 million people, from ~ 7 million to ~ 8.5 million. There is no trace of "almost 2 times in 10 years" increase.
          1. Andrey.AN
            Andrey.AN 22 January 2021 20: 14
            -1
            http://www.iimes.ru/?p=9945
            https://ru.aznations.com/population/il
            1. The eye of the crying
              The eye of the crying 22 January 2021 20: 19
              +2
              Quote: Andrey.AN
              http://www.iimes.ru/?p=9945


              Look: "The Jewish population of Israel at the end of 2009 [1] was 5660000 people." Are you aware that there are quite a few Arabs living in Israel?

              Quote: Andrey.AN
              https://ru.aznations.com/population/il


              There is no data for 2009, but for 2013 the figure is ~ 8 million. And what did you mean by that?
              1. Andrey.AN
                Andrey.AN 22 January 2021 20: 38
                -1
                It says how much along with the rest. In short, the number of those who just managed to become citizens became one and a half times more, although before that everything was smooth.
                1. The eye of the crying
                  The eye of the crying 22 January 2021 20: 41
                  +2
                  Quote: Andrey.AN
                  In short, there are one and a half times more people who have just managed to become citizens


                  I don't know who did what there. Once again, slowly: the population of Israel has increased by ~ 10 million over the past 1.5 years. This is not 2 times or even XNUMX times. Your links do not contradict this in any way.
                  1. Andrey.AN
                    Andrey.AN 22 January 2021 20: 50
                    +1
                    It looks like you are right and I greatly exaggerated, did not notice that the Institute for the Middle East does not take into account the non-Jewish population of Israel.
                    1. The eye of the crying
                      The eye of the crying 22 January 2021 20: 53
                      +2
                      Then excuse me, I shouldn't have immediately accused you of lying.
  • Volga073
    Volga073 22 January 2021 19: 35
    -3
    It is high time to hit Israeli airfields and not chase missiles ..
    1. Iris
      Iris 23 January 2021 01: 19
      +2
      When are you going? From Monday ?
  • Egor53
    Egor53 23 January 2021 02: 46
    0
    Why can't you get Israeli planes over Lebanese territory? Or Israel itself?
  • Egor53
    Egor53 23 January 2021 02: 50
    -3
    It's time to land a couple of Israeli aircraft, preferably an F-35, over any territory.
    1. Iris
      Iris 23 January 2021 14: 00
      +1
      The territory of the country Fantasy - at your service)))
  • Zementbomber
    Zementbomber 23 January 2021 06: 11
    0
    Well - "hit".
    Well - The SAA Air Defense Troops have dutifully wiped themselves off once again.
    As well as the curators comrade. Assad Jr.
    With which we congratulate both those and others. wassat
  • RFR1993Famile
    RFR1993Famile 23 January 2021 11: 41
    +1
    In order to defend ourselves, it is necessary to shoot down Israeli planes over Lebanon so that the Jews will not disdain to attack Syria.
    1. Iris
      Iris 23 January 2021 14: 03
      +2
      Who's self-defense? Do you mean the Syrians or the IRGC?
      Syria and Israel are de jure at war; "attacking Syria" is an irrelevant expression in this regard.
  • xomaNN
    xomaNN 24 January 2021 00: 03
    0
    It turns out that the Syrian air defense is afraid of the Lebanese Air Force ???
    And poorly next time it is at the source of the missiles - to hit the C300 attacking Israeli aircraft?
    1. ironic
      ironic 26 January 2021 20: 19
      +1
      What for? It is known that this is a gift from the Russian Federation. Why would Israel spoil this sideboard unnecessarily. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation will be unpleasant, but we have agreements not to make each other unpleasant.
  • Sashka
    Sashka 27 January 2021 01: 54
    0
    For me, our S-300/400 are very suspiciously silent in various situations. And pearls, like: from a neighboring state, the Russians have some kind of agreements with Jews / Turks, etc. - they look stupid and strange. I would not like the words of some Western experts about the fake performance characteristics of our complexes to be true ...
    1. Vadim F
      Vadim F 17 February 2021 11: 29
      0
      they are not fake, but destroying these air defense systems is not an impossible task for modern aviation. if the Russian s-400s intervene, they will simply be bombed as punishment. it is more profitable to scratch your tongue about super-duper anti-aircraft complexes, but not use them.