Military Review

Machine gun MG5 arrives at the German troops

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A machine gunner with an MG5A2 firing from his hands during the exercise. Loose tape is used. Below is a bag with accessories.



Currently, the Bundeswehr is replacing the honored veteran - the MG3 machine gun with a new - MG5.

The new single machine gun was born as a result of a competition announced in 2008-2009, due to the army's desire to have light, medium, heavy machine guns in service, as well as a medium machine gun with an increased rate of fire.

The customer's goal was to obtain a family of machine guns that are as similar as possible in ergonomics and method of maintenance.

At the time of the assignment, the Bundeswehr was already armed with a light MG4 machine gun of 5,56x45 caliber, developed and produced by Heckler & Koch. MG4 is part of the Infanterist der Zukunft-IdZ program and has entered the army in large numbers since 2004.

A heavy machine gun is also included. This is the Browning M2 12,7x 99 machine gun produced by the Belgian concern FN Herstal SA.

As a medium machine gun with an increased rate of fire, the MG6 is currently used - a modification of the multi-barreled machine gun with a rotating block of barrels (Gatling scheme) M134D manufactured by Dillon-Aero Inc, caliber 7,62x51. It has a theoretical rate of fire of up to 3000 high / min. MG6 is used as an onboard armament for light helicopters of the H145M Light Utility Helicopter Special Operations Forces (LUH SOF), as well as the Serval BRDM.

"Medium machine gun"


The role of the medium machine gun, also called "single", in the Bundeswehr until recently was played by the MG3 of 7,62x51 caliber. According to the charter, he performs tasks

"Automatic destruction of single and group targets on the surface and in the air."

The effective fire range reaches 600 meters when shooting from a bipod and 1200 meters from a gun carriage.

The MG3A1 modification is designed for installation on various combat vehicles, for example, as a paired one with tank cannon, or for installation on remotely controlled combat modules (DUBM), such as the FLW 100 armored vehicles Dingo 2.

According to the Bundeswehr's Office of Armaments, Information Technology and Operations (BAAINBw), the understanding that MG3 has no prospects has appeared a long time ago. The production of this model was discontinued back in 1977, and by now the problem of providing spare parts has become obvious. In addition, due to the design features, MG3 is subject to increased wear in the FLW 100 DBM. The use of new steel core chucks DM151 from Metallwerk Eisenhuette (MEN) also leads to premature barrel wear.

Competition


Five firms were invited to take part in the Bundeswehr competition for a new single machine gun. Only two of them responded.

After evaluating the technical and financial components of the submitted projects, only one candidate remained in the game - Heckler and Koch with its sample NK121. Only this manufacturer fulfilled all the customer's requirements. By order of July 10, 2013, the Bundeswehr purchased 65 copies of the machine gun for testing. The order was valued at 2,75 million euros. At the same time, a framework agreement was concluded for the purchase of 7114 machine guns in the amount of 118,4 million euros. In the future, it is planned to acquire another 12 units.

Complex tests of NK121 were carried out in 2014 at the "Test Center 91" (Wehrtechnische Dienststelle WTD 91) in Meppen. During the tests, such shortcomings were identified as cracks in the receiver, increased corrosion under the influence of salt water, increased wear of the barrel when using cartridges with a steel core. As a result of the work carried out, they were eliminated. It was also revealed that the displacement of the midpoint of impact when changing the barrel exceeds the specified terms of reference.

Ultimately, the military agreed to accept weapon as such, but the purchase price has been reduced. The test report (WTD-Nr-91-400-120-14 dated December 8, 2014) states that the parameters of the weapon, its reliability and safety meet the requirements of the technical specifications and NATO standards, and it can be recommended for adoption.

In parallel with the complex, military tests were carried out under the auspices of the ground forces with the involvement of all technical services and supply services of the Bundeswehr. The quality of weapons was checked in conditions close to combat. The result of military trials was the military's demands to make changes to the design. This concerned sighting devices, controls and insufficient stability of the weapon when firing.

The test report of October 20, 2014 assesses the machine gun, which received the military designation MG5, on the whole positively. It also notes that the new machine gun is more compact and more ergonomic than the MG3. It also has a lower rate of fire and recoil, which makes the shooter less tired and contributes to greater accuracy of fire. The ability to install optical sights and night vision devices significantly increases the accuracy of shooting. There were no delays in firing live ammunition.

The disadvantages include the fact that it was not possible to achieve a weight reduction in comparison with the MG3. Another drawback is the lack of a special shutter for firing training ammunition of reduced power, used in training in small shooting ranges and training camps, as well as when practicing anti-aircraft shooting at special stands.

The general conclusion is that the MG5 machine gun can be adopted for service under the following conditions:

- change in the butt design;

- a new fore-end, suitable for attaching to it both a special "assault" bipod handle (bi-pod), and a "full-fledged" steel bipod;

- changing the color of the receiver cover.

After the implementation of these changes, the MG5 machine gun was adopted by a decree of January 29, 2016.

On March 17, 2015, the Bundeswehr ordered the first batch of 1215 MG5 units. The first operator of the new machine gun was the Maritime Technical School in Parov, which received it in 2016. A total of 7 units were ordered, and by 114 more than half of the delivery plan was fulfilled - the customer received 2018 units. They were distributed as follows:

- Ground Forces - 2 800;
- Joint support forces (German die Streitkräftebasis) - 750;
- Medical and sanitary service - 200;
- Naval forces - 270;
- Air Force - 270.

Modifications


The machine gun is available in three versions.

MG5 is the standard version with a 550 mm barrel. It is used both as an easel (on a gun carriage) and as a manual one. Installation of a bipod or an "assault" bipod handle is possible.

MG5A1– is designed for installation on various combat vehicles, for example, on remotely controlled combat modules (DUBM). The barrel length is also 550 mm. The butt and other attributes of infantry weapons are missing. The descent is carried out from the corresponding elements of the vehicles - carriers.

MG5A2 is a shortened "infantry" version. Barrel length - 450 mm. The rest is similar to the standard one.


Above - MG5A2 machine gun with folded stock and bipod.
Bottom - MG5A2 on a bipod


Partial disassembly MG5A2


The MG5 machine gun on a carriage can hit targets at distances up to 1000 meters.

The device and the principle of operation


The MG5 machine gun uses gas-operated automatics. The barrel is locked by turning the bolt. The fire is conducted from an open bolt. The machine gun is powered by a loose or non-scatter metal tape with an open link, which is fed from the left side of the weapon.

In the infantry version, the tape is in the bag, which is attached to the bottom of the weapon, in its center. This provides a good balance when carrying. The ejection of the casings occurs to the right downward in order to avoid jamming the weapon with these casings in the event of their reflection from any obstacles.

Using the gas regulator on the gas block, the rate of fire can be set to 640, 720 or 800 rounds per minute.

The barrel is equipped with a folding handle for carrying and changing the barrel. Under the receiver is a trigger box with a pistol grip, which also has a double-sided safety lever. Safety lock is possible at any position of the shutter.

MG5 and MG5A2 consist of the following main elements: receiver, cover, tape receiver, connecting block, butt, barrel, forend, bolt, trigger box with pistol grip, bipod. In addition, there is a device for firing blank cartridges.

The weapon comes with an extensive set of accessories: tools, an additional cheek piece, two heat-shielding barrel covers, an anti-aircraft sight, a spare barrel, eight protective muzzle plugs, a belt bag mount, three such bags, each of which holds 80 rounds, as well as accessories for carrying these bags on the unloading system, assault grip with adapter, telescopic sight, cleaning tools, bags for a spare barrel and accessories.

The massive cast steel receiver is the main supporting element of the entire structure. The cover, tape receiver, connecting block and trigger box are attached to it with the help of captive screws.

A gas block, a bipod, a barrel mounting mechanism with a locking lever are attached to the front of the receiver. In order to avoid unintentional barrel detachment, the locking lever cannot be turned when the carrying handle is folded back and the barrel is changed.

On the right is the cocking handle. Inside the receiver there are bolt guides. In its lower part there is a liner ejection window with a dust cover. A cartridge bag and (if necessary) a sleeve bag are attached to the brackets in front of the ejection window. On the gas block, at 3, 6 and 9 o'clock there are Mil-Std 1913 mounting plates. The barrel guard is also attached to it. Directly behind the mounting strips is the front, and on the back of the receiver - the rear mounting to the carriage. There are swivels on the sides of the receiver and on the back of the gas block.

The top of the receiver is closed by a lid. A magazine receiver and a tape feed mechanism are installed on the cover. The lid folds up and forward. In open and closed state, it can be fixed. The tape feed mechanism is activated when the shutter rolls back and rolls. The cover also has a sensor to indicate the presence or absence of a cartridge on the feed chute.


When the receiver cover is open, the tape feed mechanism is visible.

The MG5 machine gun is equipped with a 550 mm barrel, and the MG5A1 - 450 mm. The barrels have four right-hand grooves. On the muzzle there is a thread for installing a flame arrester.

The vent tube is located at the front of the barrel. The bottom of the barrel covers a plastic forend, fixed to the receiver. Also, a bipod is attached to the gas block, which, when folded, hides in the corresponding forearm bosom.

For handheld shooting, including on the move, an assault handle can be installed on the mounting plate from below. On the side strips, for example, a laser designator.

The bolt consists of a bolt itself, a bolt carrier with a piston, a striker and a control roller. The bolt lugs are located in two rows - three in the front and four in the back row. A spring-loaded ejector is located at the bottom of the bolt between the lugs. A control roller at the top of the bolt carrier drives the tape feed mechanism. The damper on the connecting block dampens the blows of the shutter when it is rolled back.

In addition, the connection block carries two return springs with guide rods. This block closes the rear of the receiver and is connected to it with two captive screws.

The plastic telescopic stock is adjustable in length and can be fixed in six positions. The stock is equipped with a height-adjustable cheek piece and sling swivels for the belt. It can be folded to the left and locked in this position.

The trigger box with a pistol grip is also made of plastic. A double-sided fuse is also installed on it. It is also connected to the receiver by means of a captive screw.

The machine guns of both "infantry" modifications are equipped with a ZO 4x30i RD-MG5-BW optical sight made by Hensoldt, a backup mechanical sight and an anti-aircraft sight. The mechanical sight consists of a folding front sight on the barrel and a folding rear sight with a V-shaped notch mounted on the receiver cover. Both front sight and rear sight have white contrasting marks for quick target acquisition. The front sight is adjustable vertically and horizontally.


Mechanical sight

The anti-aircraft sight, if necessary, is installed on the Picatinny rail on the receiver cover. To do this, you need to remove the optical sight. It is used in conjunction with a standard front sight.


Anti-aircraft sight

MG5 and MG5A2 machine guns can be equipped with WBZG thermal imaging sights, NSV 600 night mounts or IRV 600 infrared mounts.

Technical characteristics of machine guns

DWJ opinion


MG5 machine guns are modern weapons that, thanks to their modular design, provide versatility. Their ergonomics are identical to the MG4 light machine guns, making training easier. The fourfold optical sight, in comparison with the mechanical one in the MG3, provides a more effective search for targets, their identification and accurate destruction.

Also, MG5 has less recoil compared to MG3, which positively affects the effectiveness of fire both from the bipod and from the hands - the weapon quickly returns to the aiming line after the turn. Effective guards ensure safe handling of this weapon. MG5 is better balanced than MG3, making it more convenient to carry.

Some disadvantages should be noted. Some users find the MG5's maximum rate of fire of 800 rpm to be insufficient. For MG3 it is 1 hpm. One of the requirements of the terms of reference was the ability to use the carriage from MG200, but in reality the carriage needed to be refined.

The MG5 is the successor to the MG3, a true icon of the German gun school.

Let's hope that the new machine gun will meet all the requirements of the Bundeswehr.

Translation of the article "Der Umstieg auf das MG5" published in the German "Weapon magazine" ("Deutsche Waffenjournal") Nr11 / 2020
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  1. KCA
    KCA 23 January 2021 05: 51
    +2
    So many ribs, holes, horror, panic horror will seize the soldier, when after the exercises this thing needs to be cleaned, no less than it will take a whole day
    1. English tarantas
      English tarantas 23 January 2021 05: 59
      +5
      Duc machine gun, all the same, in less than a day not to cope. It's only a pity for the old man MG3, the legend is gone.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 23 January 2021 06: 55
        +10
        Quote: KCA
        So many ribs, holes, horror, panic horror will seize the soldier, when after the exercises this thing needs to be cleaned, no less than it will take a whole day

        Quote: English tarantass
        Duc the machine gun, all the same, in less than a day you can't manage.


        Which army is it in single machine gun PK (M)fighter cleans (has to clean) all day?

        Except in Estonian ...


        PS: The poster lacks a collapsible 3-section ramrod, "hidden by secret technology" in the right bipod.
      2. Crowe
        Crowe 23 January 2021 07: 04
        +11
        Quote: English tarantass
        It's a pity only for the old man mg3

        MG5 is the heir to MG3 - a true icon of the German gun school. The Germans have always been able to make machine guns, and now they have not forgotten how.
        Quote: KCA
        So many ribs, holes, horror, panic horror

        I think that when designing moving parts of automation, large tolerances between non-working surfaces and small values ​​of rubbing surfaces were deliberately established, which should, in theory, make the operation of the weapon less sensitive to thick grease, pollution and unfavorable climatic conditions. Well, it is necessary to clean and lubricate periodically any weapon. so now ..
        1. English tarantas
          English tarantas 23 January 2021 07: 16
          +5
          MG5 is the heir to MG3 - a true icon of the German gun school. The Germans have always been able to make machine guns, and now they have not forgotten how.

          Rather, the assignee. The only common thing between them is that they are machine guns.
          German cars are also said to be good, but Japanese cars are better.
          But MG has been in the ranks for 80 years.
        2. KCA
          KCA 23 January 2021 10: 46
          +5
          I did not mean cleaning and lubricating the barrel and the mechanism, but the entire external entourage, every crack and hole, the cleanliness of which the sergeant will check, on one radiator on the barrel how many holes will need to be cleaned first, and then checked
        3. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 24 January 2021 20: 07
          0
          MG5 is more similar in design to the Belgian MAG.
          The Germans have gone far from MG3 (I don't know if this is good or bad).
          I noticed a useful change from MAG - an improvement that the sleeves do not fall down,
          and right down.
          And then, when I fired from the MAG turret, the shells fell to my knees, burning them.
        4. Terran ghost
          Terran ghost 25 January 2021 09: 48
          0
          I think that when designing moving parts of automation, large tolerances between non-working surfaces and small values ​​of rubbing surfaces were deliberately established

          To be honest from the picture, the dimensions of the tolerances are somehow not visible. The hole is visible only in the barrel casing - to remove excess heat generated during firing from this very barrel.
      3. Mister X
        Mister X 23 January 2021 10: 05
        +5
        At the time of the assignment, the Bundeswehr was already armed with a light MG4 machine gun of 5,56x45 caliber, developed and manufactured by Heckler & Koch.

        hi
        The author was a little ahead of the events.
        The machine gun is just undergoing military trials (the 26th Parachute Regiment, located in Zweibrucken).
        The German army plans that it will enter the troops in 2021.
        Pictured is a Heckler & Koch MG4 A3 machine gun with a Hensoldt 4 × 30 telescopic sight.


        Photo taken from a foreign forum, the model was not indicated.
        In the comment below it, someone wrote:
        - Russian.
        I answered him:
        - Of course he is Russian!
        After all, the fighter has a very tanned face, a chevron with the flag of Germany, and in his hands the newest German MG4 A3 machine gun.
        I liked my answer and got some likes wink
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 23 January 2021 10: 38
          +6
          Quote: Mister X
          - Russian.
          I answered him:
          - Of course he is Russian! ............. I liked my answer and got some likes

          And I have question about fixing the cartridge box not in the center of mass under the body of the machine gunand on the side, which obviously leads to the difficulties of shooting it from hands, without support ...

          Why? What for ? request belay Really - "Gloomy German genius" yes
          1. Mister X
            Mister X 23 January 2021 11: 04
            +1
            Quote: Insurgent
            the question of fastening the cartridge box not in the center of mass under the body of the machine gun, but on the side

            hi
            Good point.
            Let me remind you that MG4 is just being tested.
            I think that a tarpaulin bag for ammunition tape will be used more often.
            And the ammunition boxes are on machine guns mounted on machine tools.
            Checkpoint, car ...
            Perhaps the boxes will be redone, or discarded.

        2. Slug_BDMP
          23 January 2021 11: 37
          +4
          The author was a little ahead of the events.
          The machine gun is only undergoing military trials


          ??
          "... This machine gun was adopted in 2003 by the Bundeswehr (German Army) under the designation MG4, and in 2007 the first export contract with Spain was signed ..."
          https://modernfirearms.net/ru/pulemety/germanija-pulemety/hk-mg-4/
          I personally held MG4 in my hands for a year, that way, in 2008 (at an open house at the local HF)
          1. Mister X
            Mister X 23 January 2021 11: 51
            +2
            Quote: Slug_BDMP
            This machine gun was put into service in 2003.

            hi
            You're right: the A3 modification is being tested.
            Thanks for clarification
      4. YOUR
        YOUR 23 January 2021 15: 39
        0
        Yes, not completely gone. Pay attention to the machine, it has something to do with MG34. Ennobled of course.
        The Heavy has an additional weapon, the HK MP7 PDW SMG. Ours in Chechnya and Syria PKM or Pecheneg + AKMS go. Still, it will be hard.
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 24 January 2021 20: 02
          0
          Quote: YOUR
          Yes, not completely gone. Pay attention to the machine, it has something to do with MG34. Ennobled of course.
          The Heavy has an additional weapon, the HK MP7 PDW SMG. Ours in Chechnya and Syria PKM or Pecheneg + AKMS go. Still, it will be hard.

          Probably still AKSU, not AKMS?
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 25 January 2021 10: 57
            0
            I have never seen AKSU.
            According to the state, the calculation of the group weapon is supposed to be PM or APS. This was the case at the time when I served, although even then they were not given out.
            1. Doliva63
              Doliva63 25 January 2021 18: 53
              0
              Quote: YOUR
              I have never seen AKSU.
              According to the state, the calculation of the group weapon is supposed to be PM or APS. This was the case at the time when I served, although even then they were not given out.

              In my time, the crews of the group weapons were armed with the AKSU. As well as drivers, radio operators, etc., who previously had a pistol. He was clearly better than a pistol. From him I performed the control shooting exercise for AKMS and AKC at least "good". Ie, a narmal machine for fighting up to 300 m.
              1. YOUR
                YOUR 26 January 2021 04: 14
                0
                Too heavy for a machine gunner, and even with cartridges.
                1. Doliva63
                  Doliva63 26 January 2021 17: 37
                  0
                  Quote: YOUR
                  Too heavy for a machine gunner, and even with cartridges.

                  Hmm. If the machine is heavy, there is a second number with a submachine gun, if it is light, then a submachine gun / pistol is not needed, because the RPK / RPKS will be more abruptly laughing Well, but I am not able to assume a situation when the "heavy" one refused and everyone was saved by the machine gunner's pistol. lol
                  It seems to me that with this case in CA everything was quite reasonable. drinks
    2. aglet
      aglet 23 January 2021 10: 24
      -2
      "So many edges, holes, ugly,"
      it's okay, outsourcing, and there they can wash in a washing machine
      1. KCA
        KCA 23 January 2021 10: 47
        +1
        Then in the dishwasher
      2. Insurgent
        Insurgent 23 January 2021 11: 06
        +7
        Quote: aglet
        it's okay, outsourcing, and there they can wash in a washing machine

        wassat
        I have already written once how a fighter in the slush so wound up in the trench and was transported in the clay so that the AK-74 and he himself became unrecognizable.
        The fighter wandered into the village to "dispose" to change clothes, and there he washed the machine gun with a stream of water from a hose, without even bothering with its disassembly wassat

        Outsourcing
        yes lol

        Remark - In our city, damn it, there is only 1-2 hours a day from the front line, and there, near Donetsk, in a broken village, it is 24 hours a day ...
        1. ROSS_51
          ROSS_51 19 March 2021 19: 41
          0
          The Germans have been doing this with MG3 ..
  2. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 23 January 2021 06: 07
    -17%
    How this machine gun will behave when you flop with it into a frozen swamp, and when the water freezes, you need to turn on ... For European conditions, weapons can be good, but how in Siberia it will behave is a big question.
    1. Black_Vatnik
      Black_Vatnik 23 January 2021 06: 52
      +11
      What part of Germany is in Siberia?
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 23 January 2021 07: 07
        -7
        No, smile... But Germany is a member of NATO and who knows what if the Germans will want to walk along our NSR with a parade march.
      2. Jager
        Jager April 5 2021 14: 01
        0
        Nevertheless, some part of Germany has been there. soldier
    2. CTABEP
      CTABEP 23 January 2021 06: 58
      +15
      And you pkm flop down, and then let it freeze. Be surprised when he also won't shoot.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 23 January 2021 07: 09
        -9
        Yes, what and now the enemy is attacking and the weapon does not shoot.
        1. nsm1
          nsm1 23 January 2021 07: 53
          +18
          Weapons must be protected, not thrown into the mud!
          Have you served in the Army?
          If so, why such absurd claims?
    3. sheih78
      sheih78 23 January 2021 08: 18
      +5
      Do you really think that the Germans did not conduct such tests?
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 23 January 2021 08: 29
        0
        Perhaps, the article does not say anything about it. hi
      2. Insurgent
        Insurgent 23 January 2021 08: 42
        +6
        Quote: sheih78
        Do you really think that the Germans did not conduct such tests?

        What do you think, for the HK G36 assault rifle, set of tests was carried out?

        This I mean that this rifle has its flaws, which forced the Bundeswehr to look for a replacement for it, "got out" only during military operation yes
        1. sheih78
          sheih78 23 January 2021 08: 46
          +2
          How did AKM come about? Based on the results of operation in the troops.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 23 January 2021 08: 56
            +3
            Quote: sheih78
            How did AKM come about? Based on the results of operation in the troops.

            After how many years of AK operation? Moreover, that followed modernization machine, simplifying production technology, and not replacing it ...

            What are you comparing AK and HK G36? The Kalashnikov did not have and does not have such critical, fatal flaws as this German assault rifle.
            Decades of exploitation of Kalashoids all over the world have shown this.
        2. English tarantas
          English tarantas 23 January 2021 11: 22
          0
          Due to tight deadlines or due to the fact that HK was in a hurry (I don't remember exactly), the machine was submitted for testing with a barrel recessed into a plastic case. During the shooting tests, they showed that the barrel leads a little when overheated, but the military machine gun was accepted (maybe kickbacks, maybe it really did), but HK subsequently offered to make a normal barrel mount, the military refused. There are no more critical flaws in the g36, if you get to the bottom, then the size is still more compact than the g3 that stood before it, the weight is not very large, the version without a handle above the box is there, what questions.
        3. psiho117
          psiho117 25 January 2021 02: 20
          +1
          Quote: Insurgent
          that this rifle had its flaws, which forced the Bundeswehr to look for a replacement for it, "got out" only during military operation

          Earlier, much earlier. H&K even offered the Bundeswehr an upgrade - they refused, continuing after the 2010s, to purchase rifles of the 90s project - without any changes.
          The following is a quote from the materials of the "G36 case" hearing in court:
          So, the technical conditions of the original version of the contract, signed in the early 1990s, were not revised, even after 2011, when the Bundeswehr began to note an increase in claims and problems with the G36, especially during the combat use of the rifle in Afghanistan.

          Despite all this, the Bundeswehr continued to accept weapons manufactured by Heckler & Koch, although the Arms Directorate insisted on revising the contract specifications in light of the problems that had emerged. The judge ruled that “contracts continued to be concluded in the same manner as in the past”. That, a priori, excludes any claims for damages, despite the fact that Heckler & Koch itself has proposed several options for a significant modernization of weapons.

          Plus, there was a violation of the technology by MEN, the manufacturer of cartridges, which were mainly used by the Bundeswehr - they caused a too high temperature in the barrel, for which, according to the TOR, the rifle was not designed.
          As noted - in other versions of the G36, the company has fixed everything. But in the Bundeswehr, everything remained the same.
          However, this does not surprise me - in a country where there has never been a military woman, she is the Minister of Defense - it could not be otherwise. bully
    4. PilotS37
      PilotS37 23 January 2021 13: 41
      -2
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      For European conditions, the weapon may be good, but how in Siberia it will behave is a big question.

      Well, when did the boots of an enemy soldier last walk on Siberian lands?
      I think that the Europeans have long understood that it is better not to meddle in Russia - so they make their own weapons on the basis of using them either in their own territory or somewhere in Africa ... It's safer to live this way. wassat
      1. English tarantas
        English tarantas 23 January 2021 17: 12
        +5
        The funny thing about your comment is that conditions in Africa are not much better than in Russia. In the desert, during the day, grease and varnish from weapons will drain, battery batteries will sit down, at night it will be possible to freeze the Dubak, and the sand itself. The jungle is damp. In South America, too, heat and swamps, in Asia, in general, the spread is terrible. In Europe itself, it is also not very cool, despite a smaller range of temperatures and a more uniform landscape, tests in bulk: a bunch of water obstacles, swamps, in the cold season it is humid and a lot of rain (not Vietnam, but it is cool and the water can freeze), spring always muddy even swim and this is not only in Russia. So much for you wassat
    5. arkadiyssk
      arkadiyssk 23 January 2021 18: 47
      0
      It turns out they lie on TV and NATA is not going to attack us? If she did, she would make weapons for the conditions of Siberia, and not for her own Gulf Stream climate. :)
      1. psiho117
        psiho117 25 January 2021 02: 27
        +1
        Quote: arkadiyssk
        It turns out they lie on TV and NATA is not going to attack us

        Why would they attack? The majority of the elite are already under their control - Brzezinski has long formulated this:
        Russia may have any number of nuclear suitcases and nuclear buttons, but since 500 of billions of dollars of the Russian elite are in our banks, you still figure it out: is it your elite or already ours?
        And then there are songs like "I'm going to live in London", and their children also en masse study abroad. So think about whether they need to attack, or the old principle will be used.
        Even in the most protected city there is a gate through which a donkey laden with gold will pass
      2. Insurgent
        Insurgent 25 January 2021 05: 32
        +3
        Quote: arkadiyssk
        It turns out they lie on TV and NATA is not going to attack us? If she did, she would make weapons for the conditions of Siberia, and not for her own Gulf Stream climate. :)

        No, just like that, "turYstami", we drove into the Baltic states on tanks yes
  3. nsm1
    nsm1 23 January 2021 07: 50
    +3
    The carriage is cool.
    Do we have similar ones?
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 23 January 2021 08: 36
      +5
      Quote: nsm1
      The carriage is cool.
      Do we have similar ones?

      The current carriage-carriage is a message to the MG machine of the WWII period.

      The USSR / RF Armed Forces do not have a directly analogous machine. A simple and lightweight "3-leg" unified machine is used.
      1. nsm1
        nsm1 23 January 2021 08: 39
        0
        Our machine does not inspire.
        Their head is below a machine gun, and ours is sticking out above.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 23 January 2021 08: 48
          +10
          Quote: nsm1
          Our machine does not inspire.
          Their head is below a machine gun, and ours is sticking out above.

          So that "the head was not over, but under", with her head, you have to think yes .

          Spread out the "paws" of the machine to the maximum, and the machine gun is level with the ground ...

          And in general, if we take your remark seriously, then claims should be made not to the machine, but to the sight, which is on the German machine periscopic.
          1. nsm1
            nsm1 23 January 2021 08: 52
            +1
            I agree with the scope.
            But in order to put one like this, you need to foresee a place for him in advance.
            Quote: Insurgent
            Spread out the "paws" of the machine to the maximum, and the machine gun is level with the ground ...

            Yes it is.
            And you can also dig.
            But the head will still be over sighting line, high.
            Voshchem - their carriage is clearly better.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 23 January 2021 09: 01
              +7
              Quote: nsm1
              Voshchem - their carriage is clearly better.

              That's when you pull on your hump, then evaluate which one is better yes

              And in terms of sight - the nuance is not that there is nowhere to attach the sight ("dovetail" has not been canceled), but that in the RF Armed Forces, such a specialized periscopic machine gun sight is simply absent as such, and this is to "disadvantages of the machine", can not be applied by any measure No. .
              1. nsm1
                nsm1 23 January 2021 09: 05
                -1
                So I carried the pc.
                Machine gun, spare barrel, box for 250, two for 150 - not enough hands without a gun carriage!
                And not the fact that their carriage is heavier.
                I repeat - their gun carriage with their sight is definitely lot better.
                1. Lynnot
                  Lynnot 23 January 2021 09: 13
                  +2
                  All the same, the head is not in cover and fits well into the size of the target. A periscope sight is good for an equipped stationary position. The periscopic sight shown in the photo is kind of half-hearted.
                2. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 23 January 2021 09: 13
                  +9
                  Quote: nsm1
                  So I carried the pc.
                  Machine gun, spare barrel, box for 250, two for 150 - not enough hands without a gun carriage!

                  This is WHERE, without the second number?
                  Okay, here in the DPR, the "original army", where the machine gunner for some reason does not have a second number by state ...

                  And in the Armed Forces of the USSR and the Russian Federation, the "porter" of the spare barrel and ammo is assigned to the staff.

                  Quote: nsm1
                  And not the fact that their carriage is heavier.


                  Their machine - 20 kg

                  Our machine-gun machine Stepanov model 1974 (year of creation 1969, index GRAU 6T5) - 4,5 kg

                  DRIVE WITH PLEASURE yes
                  1. nsm1
                    nsm1 23 January 2021 09: 21
                    0
                    Quote: Insurgent
                    And in the Armed Forces of the USSR and the Russian Federation, the "porter" of the spare barrel and ammo is assigned to the staff.

                    You are confusing something.
                    The assistant grenade launcher was put in, yes ...
                    Quote: Insurgent
                    Their machine - 20 kg

                    The fact that in the photo does not pull 20 kg in any way.
                    It generally looks like aluminum - note the color defect below.
                    Drop the link if possible.
                    But for the actual, not WW2 times.
                    1. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 23 January 2021 09: 31
                      +5
                      Quote: nsm1
                      The fact that in the photo does not pull 20 kg in any way.

                      On 20 does not pull, but on full-weight 16 (poods), entirely.

                      Data from Wikipedia about MG3, the carriage from which "migrated" to MG5:

                      Weight, kg - 11,5

                      27,5 (with machine)


                      And one more remarkable fact about the German machine tool:

                      - in a fully extended position, the aiming line is 45 cm above ground level ...
                      1. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 23 January 2021 11: 47
                        +1
                        Perhaps one of the biggest drawbacks of the Lafette 34 was its size and weight. At 20 kilograms without machine gun
                        On 20 does not pull, but on full-weight 16 (poods), entirely.
                        Exactly 20 kg is, excluding spare parts. According to https://world-war-2.wikia.org/wiki/Lafette_34_Tripod#:~:text=Perhaps%20one%20of%20the%20biggest,replacement%20parts%2C%20and%20other%20equipment.
                      2. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 23 January 2021 11: 51
                        +2
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        Exactly 20 kg is, excluding spare parts.

                        Well it Lafette / 34 / Tripod, WWII period, and in its updated version for MG-3, its weight is reduced to 16 kg.
                      3. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 23 January 2021 12: 41
                        +1
                        The Bundeswehr Lafette 34 (more precisely, the 42-modified for mounting MG-1 and MG-3) did not change their design, and therefore the weight compared to the original. (They were the legacy of the Wehrmacht) In post-war Germany, they were only repainted in Polizei-grun when adopted in the Bundeswehr. (more precisely, in the police units initially) All interesting history and a bunch of photos are here https://www.bergflak.com/lafette/recon.html
            2. aglet
              aglet 23 January 2021 10: 30
              +3
              "So I was carrying the pc.
              Machine gun, spare barrel, box for 250, two for 150 - not enough hands without a gun carriage! "
              Choto my sclerosis tells me, it's all dragged along, no? and for 150 box, where? and why two?
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 23 January 2021 10: 54
                +5
                Quote: aglet
                and 150 boxes, where? and why two?

                The regular unloading vest "ZhTU 6SH 112", "Scout-machine gunner" (PKM) has 2 pouches for boxes for 100 cartridges (into which a maximum of 125 cartridges can be crammed, despite the fact that part of the tape will stick out of the box), or under the tape "in bulk". + 1 box on the machine gun.
                And that - three boxes for 100 rounds each. Well, and 1000 cartridges in a backpack - "in bulk" or in ribbons (included in the "ZhTU" and "marauder" set.

                And I will note that the boxes fit into the "pouches" very tightly, which is not always good.

              2. serezhasoldatow
                serezhasoldatow 23 January 2021 21: 27
                +2
                Where have you seen boxes for 150 rounds on the PC? A box for 100 rounds is attached to the machine gun. Calculation of 2 people. The machine gun can be shoved into the case and over the shoulders, through another APS. 2 room with a gun, boxes, spare barrel.
                1. cat Rusich
                  cat Rusich 24 January 2021 14: 28
                  +1
                  Quote: serezhasoldatow
                  Where did you see boxes for 150 rounds on the PC? ...
                  pc tape boxes
                  Box number 3 - experimental for 150 rounds.
                  The box for 150 rounds was attached under the PC, but did not go into the series. soldier
                  1. serezhasoldatow
                    serezhasoldatow 1 May 2021 21: 25
                    0
                    On 150 rounds, and on 100 would not fit under a machine gun. PKTM still has boxes for 100 rounds, although there is plenty of room in the turret.
          2. Bad_gr
            Bad_gr 23 January 2021 17: 43
            0
            Quote: Insurgent
            in the RF Armed Forces, such a specialized periscopic machine-gun sight is simply absent as such, and this cannot be referred to by any measure as a "machine tool drawback".

            Their sight is bolted to the machine. In principle, with such an approach like theirs, it is quite possible to make a sight when the machine gunner's head is below ground level (in the trench).
          3. cat Rusich
            cat Rusich 24 January 2021 00: 28
            0
            Quote: Insurgent
            such a specialized periscopic machine gun sight is simply absent No. .
            A. Golodyaev offers this option
            A. Golodyaev
            With the help of the Nozzle НГ1,1-600, you can keep your head behind a cover and conduct aimed shooting
            NG1,1-600
            НГ1,1-600 for shooting, and НГ1,1-1000 for optics of grenade launchers.
            cover shooting
            cover shooting
            soldier
            Fiber optic attachment NG-1,1-600, 1000 was shown at the Moscow exhibition of weapons in 1997 (!)
  4. Slug_BDMP
    23 January 2021 12: 12
    +1
    Is this tripod actually used? I have not seen the PC on the machine in any photograph from Chechnya or any other hot spot.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 23 January 2021 12: 17
      +2
      Quote: Slug_BDMP
      Is this tripod actually used?

      At least it is in service. And that's it.



      "PKP-Pecheneg" on Stepanov's machine.
    2. CTABEP
      CTABEP 24 January 2021 11: 18
      +1
      As the platoon platoon was removed in the battalions, the emnip in the 80s was never used properly. Although, during the second Chechnya on the block I saw a PKM on the machine, but it is unlikely that according to the state they were assigned. And to the machine tool, in an amicable panorama, you need to teach the machine gunner to fire with indirect fire, and much more.
  • sheih78
    sheih78 23 January 2021 09: 07
    0
    Quote: Insurgent
    Quote: sheih78
    Do you really think that the Germans did not conduct such tests?

    What do you think, for the HK G36 assault rifle, set of tests was carried out?

    This I mean that this rifle has its flaws, which forced the Bundeswehr to look for a replacement for it, "got out" only during military operation yes

    Signals that the G36 assault rifle has serious technical shortcomings began to arrive several years ago. So, in 2012, the magazine "Der Spiegel" was the first to publish a note that during the tests of this weapon carried out by the Bundeswehr, facts of barrel overheating were revealed, as a result of which the accuracy of fire decreased significantly. This topic was picked up by other media as well. In particular, the daily newspaper Bild published data from an internal audit of the Bundeswehr technical center, which confirmed the existence of problems with aimed shooting due to overheating of the barrel. Defending its product, Heckler & Koch has entered a real information war, explaining the appearance of critical materials in the press exclusively by the intrigues of competitors. As counterarguments of the gunsmiths, the positive results of tests carried out earlier by the Federal Bureau of Defense Technologies and Procurement in the process of processing weapons supplies to the Bundeswehr were presented. The manufacturing company also pointed to the fact that for more than ten years of the rifle's service life in "hot spots", it had not received complaints from active military units.
  • Quadro
    Quadro 23 January 2021 11: 11
    0
    And what is the problem with changing materials and replacing accessories with mg3? The problem of excessive rate of fire is solved by the retarder, so the rate of fire on ump45 was reduced from 800 to 600 shots. It is as easy as shelling pears to fasten the bar and sight to the plastic folding bed. And so they invented just so that it was, I thought at least the weight is less, but it is almost the same, the point then?
    1. DesToeR
      DesToeR 23 January 2021 13: 01
      +1
      Quote: Quadro
      And what is the problem with changing materials and replacing accessories with mg3?

      Does MG3 have fittings? Pistol grip, plastic stock, and barrel shroud. What is there to change? Well, just transfer the casing from steel to aluminum.
      Quote: Quadro
      The problem of excessive rate of fire is solved by the retarder, so the rate of fire on ump45 was reduced from 800 to 600 shots.

      The Germans decided the issue of rate of fire back in the 40s of the last century: they stupidly made two types of bolt - heavy and light. The question "why" to have two rates of fire on a 7,92 machine gun in the middle of WWII remains a mystery.
      Quote: Quadro
      And so they invented just so that it was, I thought at least the weight is less, but it is almost the same, the point then?

      The point is to catch up with the rest of the machine guns of the world (PK, M240) in terms of characteristics and finally, in the 21st century, leave the outdated method of locking by means of a movable barrel to a more modern and reliable gas outlet.
      1. Quadro
        Quadro 24 January 2021 01: 18
        0
        So the pc is already ancient and outdated, but this did not stop him from inventing a bicycle and making a Pecheneg based on it. And MG3 is not famous for its unreliability. Accessories are handles and butts, all different switches, etc. And the heavy breechblock almost did not solve the problem - even 900 shots were too many, not to make a breech from uranium. It makes no sense to spend a lot of money and resources just on a "more reliable" gas outlet system, MG3 has been worked out for almost a century (since MG42), the troops have been trained, logistics and repairs have been established. But since the rich let them do, it's not for me to decide for sure.
        1. psiho117
          psiho117 25 January 2021 02: 35
          +1
          Quote: Quadro
          And spend a lot of money

          From its price I am generally surprised - 50 euros at the prices of 000 - this is my admiration for you. hi
          HC every year turns into a golden calf more and more.
  • alexgall2013
    alexgall2013 23 January 2021 13: 48
    +1
    Why is he, a dog so heavy? Native "Pecheneg" with a barrel of 658 mm -8,5 kg with bipods weighs ..
    1. psiho117
      psiho117 25 January 2021 02: 39
      0
      Quote: alexgall2013
      what is he, the dog is so heavy

      So this is just another variation on the Belgian MAG theme, and it weighs just that, just by design.
      And to copy a PC, or to develop some lighter machine gun (of which a lot has appeared in the world in recent years), apparently, corporate pride does not allow.
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 23 January 2021 14: 18
    -5
    The culture of production is felt in every detail. That is, that is. This cannot be taken away from German weapon designers. Photo for the article with the signature
    The MG5 machine gun on a carriage can hit targets at distances up to 1000 meters.
    It is something. Fire almost by hiding the arrow good There is practically no recoil
    1. Quadro
      Quadro 24 January 2021 01: 22
      -1
      Be careful not to choke on servility.
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 23 January 2021 14: 33
    -3
    Quote: Observer2014
    The culture of production is felt in every detail. That is, that is. This cannot be taken away from German weapon designers. Photo for the article with the signature
    The MG5 machine gun on a carriage can hit targets at distances up to 1000 meters.
    It is something. Fire almost by hiding the arrow good There is practically no recoil

    laughing Yes, that is right.
    Agree cool to read after such a video the opinions of experts to this article wassat
    1. psiho117
      psiho117 25 January 2021 02: 43
      +1
      I can show them a video where a man with a PKM, standing off his shoulder, pounds with a line - and, oh, horror! The same return!
      This is culture! Production culture men bully
  • KSVK
    KSVK 23 January 2021 17: 34
    -1
    Forgive me generously, but this is:
    The MG5 machine gun uses gas-operated automation. The barrel is locked by turning the bolt. The fire is conducted from an open bolt.

    I admit the difficulties of translation. But at what point does the shot occur? BEFORE locking the barrel or what? And then lock it, yeah, so that the sleeve is not lost. wassat
    There is still a question about the carriage. A carriage scheme is when the barrel moves relative to the receiver. Apparently a question of terminology. Not a gun carriage but a machine then.
    Well, it also jarred:
    The MG5 is the successor to the MG3, a true icon of the German gun school.

    This is IMHO how to say that the AK is the heir of the PPSh. Gee.
    Completely different designs. So it is here. We can say that MG3 is the successor of MG34 / 42, but MG5 is a completely different design.
    Well, in fact. Nothing in this life changes. German weapons were both expensive and technically sophisticated and remained. And the device weighs quite a lot for a single machine gun. And yes, I also have questions about the reliability of the unit. Especially in the presence of contamination and inability to carry out timely maintenance / cleaning.
    1. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 23 January 2021 18: 57
      +1
      Quote: KSVK
      I admit the difficulties of translation. But at what point does the shot occur? BEFORE locking the barrel or what? And then lock it, yeah, so that the sleeve is not lost.

      When you pull the trigger, the bolt goes forward, sends the cartridge into the chamber, locks the barrel, a shot, unlocks the barrel, ejects the sleeve. If the trigger is not pressed, the shutter remains in the extreme rear position.
    2. zenion
      zenion 23 January 2021 19: 06
      -6
      It can be made very light, like a bridge to the Crimea, which was built at a film studio. They also have a film studio, they can draw any machine guns. It's a big deal to build a house - we will draw we will live.
  • zenion
    zenion 23 January 2021 18: 59
    -3
    Forgot to write that on this planet the machine gun has no analogues, even though it shoots through the muzzle.
  • KSVK
    KSVK 24 January 2021 03: 23
    -1
    Quote: Bad_gr

    When you pull the trigger, the bolt goes forward, sends the cartridge into the chamber, locks the barrel, a shot, unlocks the barrel, ejects the sleeve. If the trigger is not pressed, the shutter remains in the extreme rear position.

    You don’t confuse with PP? If this is really how you described, then this is generally a delusional construction. Then there can be no question of any precise shooting. In any case, a jerk of the bolt carrier with the bolt will knock the sight. And yes, with an open bolt and an empty chamber, dirt will inevitably get there and cause all sorts of unpleasant moments. What for then in general a gas outlet? We would make a free shutter and recoil automation. But let the author explain.
    1. Slug_BDMP
      24 January 2021 11: 40
      +4
      ??
      All machine guns (except for improvisations, such as the RPK or M27 IAR) fire from an open bolt:
      "... FN MAG fires with the bolt open ..."
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_MAG#Особенности_конструкции
      MG 42 and MG 3 "... The fire is fired from an open bolt, the cartridge from the tape into the barrel is direct ..."
      https://modernfirearms.net/ru/pulemety/germanija-pulemety/mg-42-i-mg-3/
      PK / PKM "... Shooting is conducted from an open bolt, only with automatic fire ..."
      https://modernfirearms.net/ru/pulemety/rossija-pulemety/pk-pks-pkm-pkms/
      The Germans, when they tried to create a universal weapon for the FG42 paratroopers, had to confuse themselves with switching fire modes:
      "... Automatic fire was fired from an open bolt for better barrel cooling, single shots were fired from a closed bolt for better firing accuracy ...."
      https://modernfirearms.net/ru/vintovki/samozarjadnye-vintovki/germanija-samozarjadnye-vintovki/fg-42/
  • Stas1973
    Stas1973 24 January 2021 14: 57
    +1
    Two questions.
    The first one is for x ... ra such a color?
    Second - for so many years of production, MG-3 could not eliminate the shortcomings?
    1. psiho117
      psiho117 25 January 2021 02: 47
      0
      Quote: Stas1973
      The first one is for x ... ra such a color?

      Normal desert camouflage. The video, primarily advertising, is designed for the Middle Eastern and African buyer who uses MG3 - primarily the Saudis, Pakistan, Turks.
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  • beeper
    beeper 24 January 2021 17: 33
    0
    Thank you respected Author, aka Slug_BDMP, for Labor! good
    The article and the Comments to it allowed me to get hold of a fairly detailed idea of ​​the general concept and design of this German machine gun. winked
    Well, purely from myself, in a design-technological and machine-gunner way, I will express myself, but by no means do I impose! repeat
    I was surprised by the weight of the new machine gun, which, despite the widespread use of aluminum alloys in it, remained at the level of the all-steel "old" MG3, wasn’t the task of reducing the weight set ?! winked
    Secondly, looking at this, frankly (and "multi-colored" smile ) assembled - "twisted (by captive bolts)" of separate modules, a structure, I got the impression that on each "module" a separate, separate group of designers "at a distance" worked on computer ?!
    And then the machine gun was "stupidly compiled, blinded (screwed over the" attachment surfaces ", like some kind of children's designer or amateur handicraft ?!) from what happened" without bothering with the general layout "in an adult way (in a form suitable for military weapons and dimensions) "?! After all, it is too absurd in appearance, lurid, "multi-storey" and angular, it turned out this, inharmonious looking, bulky bullets "structure" ?! wassat
    More like an experimental model, roughly, hastily, assembled for a general check of the structural performance (basing the bolt carrier of the machine gun only on two rod guides with return springs and a thickening of the piston rod, I liked AK!) And technological solutions, and not on a "licked" and worked-out design! winked
    That is why the working weight of the machine gun is too heavythat the German designers did not take care of the rational interconnection of individual nodes in the general layout ( in the design bureau of M.T. Kalashnikov, when working out the design of the PC machine gun, they paid cash PRIZES FOR EVERY GRAM OF SAVED WEIGHT!)!
    And so, yes, in the light of automated precision machining on CNC machines, the widespread use of plastics and precision casting of workpieces, a cast "aluminum receiver" and the use of this type of "loose link" of a cartridge belt, all parts of the German machine gun look competently designed (not even I doubted that a damper in the removable butt plate of the receiver would be required! yes ) in terms of design (as well as technological adaptability specifically for automated "CNC production" in a sterile "computer environment" of peacetime) and soundly manufactured (albeit, in my opinion, too dirt-collecting and oversized and hooked in everyday use). IMHO

    P.S. And that's what, applied in this "aluminum-box", "gas-operated" machine gun "rifle (Austrian small-bore AUG and the like, from light alloys, combat automatic and" bolt "hunting rifles)" the concept of locking the bolt by the lugs in the barrel, After all, it does not imply a simple mechanism for adjusting the "mirror gap" in the locking unit, which is necessary in single machine guns of "standard caliber" with a replaceable barrel ?!
    Is it really that the Germans assume only the use of replaceable ("adjusting" number 1; 2; 3 ...) locks (to eliminate this prerequisite for transverse rupture of the liners during intense firing from a "posed" and unregulated machine gun) ??! winked
    1. Slug_BDMP
      24 January 2021 18: 06
      +1
      "aluminum-boxed"

      Steel receiver. That's my fault. I missed the word "steel" when translating :-(
      I have already sent an error notification to the editor.
      dear Author, aka Slug_BDMP

      You overestimate my achievements. I just translated a magazine article.
      1. beeper
        beeper 24 January 2021 19: 06
        +2
        Thank you for your feedback, dear aka Slug_BDMP! yes
        Find, translate and dissect an article is exclusively your work! good
        You surprised me now, because the receiver of this machine gun, in all its protuberances and grooves, ribs of stiffness and cooling, thickness and radii of the walls, looks like it is cast from an aluminum alloy (there are such high-strength ones used in turbine construction that are close in weight to steel, and a layman can easily make mistakes , taking a weighty "light-alloy" workpiece in hand)!
        Even the unpainted bolt routing in the photo looks completely "aluminum"! smile
        This is probably a "steel" mistake crept into the original article of "DeutscheWaffenZurnal" - its German author got it wrong, didn't figure it out to the end ??! winked
        After all, if this receiver were completely steel (a thin steel sleeve cast in aluminum, under the barrel mount, I admit, it is useful there, but nothing more, because even in the butt plate there are "captive bolts" of increased diameter, which with a steel box were would be much smaller!), then the machine gun would weigh even more.
        The dimensions of the butt plate and the butt attachment unit (not to mention the body of the tape drive mechanism and the receiver cover with sighting "piles") also testify to their aluminum origin! winked
        Yes, if the receiver were cast from steel, then it would not be like that the entire structure of the German designers would have solved in terms of loads and heat dissipation (after all, technically illiterate degradants, by the fact that I see general views and individual units of the machine gun in the photo, I do not consider them at all- all individually skillfully done, albeit "with laziness", too cumbersome, together "stuck"! yes )!
        With shown, in the photo of incomplete disassembly, parts-cast "steel" receiver is a clear nonsense and nonsense, I do not believe! wassat
        IMHO
        1. Slug_BDMP
          24 January 2021 20: 32
          +2
          This is probably a "steel" mistake crept into the original article of "DeutscheWaffenZurnal" - its German author got it wrong, didn't figure it out to the end ??!

          Unlikely. Perhaps you know that there is a Russian version of the DWJ magazine - it goes as an appendix to the Kalashnikov magazine. Back in 2016, there was an article about the MG5 prototype - HK121.
          https://www.kalashnikov.ru/na-zamenu-veteranu/
          There is a phrase like this:
          "... The receiver consists of two halves, made cast steel, as well as a connecting block, which are interconnected in a patented way. In contrast, the MG3 is made of stamped parts. HK guarantees a survivability of 50 thousand shots for the receiver, 25 thousand for the bolt carrier, 18 thousand for the barrel and 15 thousand shots for the rest of the parts ... "
          I think the problem of strength and survivability influenced the choice of steel as a material.
          On the FN MINIMI, the receiver is also steel, but the cartridge there is much weaker:
          "... Time spent on production steel receiver FN Minimi, which is produced by precision casting, much less than the production of a similar riveted receiver ... "
          Stubbornly from the same "Kalashnikov"
          https://www.kalashnikov.ru/medialibrary/00d/34_39.pdf
          Besides, steel is simply cheaper than aluminum.
          1. beeper
            beeper 24 January 2021 22: 47
            +2
            hi Thank you for the clarification!
            "Of two halves" in general, each, without any fancy, can be cast into a chill mold under pressure, providing dimensions and thinness! smile
            The riveted receiver, after all, also "leads" during assembly, welding-riveting, with inserts, therefore, due to the large percentage of defective receivers, the stamped-welded AK did not go at first .... I had to, for many years, turn to its milled version ...
            Well, then it is clear about the enlarged bolts of the butt plate, the "pinned" jumper at the tape receiver and other joints (I counted them only as shadows obtained during photography) of the "body", and about the fair weight of the machine gun too ...
            The breeders of "Heckler & Koch" first took care of their "selfish" interests, production costs and profits, and the acceptable quality of the "device", and only then about the users (and also, concurrently, "neat") - ordinary machine gunners! smile
            So I thought how the Germans managed to provide a more or less acceptable resource for their light-alloy receiver with such and such not weak cartridge, if they have a cyclic shock load along the entire length and beat (albeit through a spring damper) on the butt plate, and why such a large butt attachment unit was bungled .... and it won’t be wrong! smile
            Now I remember something about these "two cunning halves", I also read somewhere, maybe in the magazine "Kalashnikov" ??! winked
            But, all the same, a very interesting (although, according to the work of designers, clearly "not fully thought out, not licked" - "lazy" and "eclectic", internally and externally. IMHO) sample of a machine gun, "inspired" fresh thoughts, and I really liked the "chip" with a clearly distinguishable (visually and tactile) cartridge indicator (it was not on our Soviet PCs)! good
            Thank you for the Article, dear aka Slug_BDMP and the staff of the VO site, as well as dear readers, for sensible and informative Comments! hi
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 24 January 2021 19: 48
    +2
    "A heavy machine gun is also available.
    This is a Browning M2 machine gun of 12,7x99 caliber produced by the Belgian concern FN Herstal SA. "///
    -----
    Cool. 100 years old man M2 fellow
    1. psiho117
      psiho117 25 January 2021 03: 00
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Cool. 100 years old man M2

      And what's even cooler - he will celebrate 150 years old, kmk love
  • Yellow bubble
    Yellow bubble 6 February 2021 15: 40
    0
    Interesting, but heavy, the meaning of an awl for soap, technology, running with such a hernia without training will be.
  • Basarev
    Basarev 14 March 2021 21: 36
    0
    Why all these difficulties? The Germans could buy our Pecheneg.