Japanese Premier Reaffirms "Japanese Sovereignty" Over The Southern Kuril Islands

Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga confirmed the extension of "Japanese sovereignty" to the South Kuril Islands. He stated this in the country's parliament.

During the debates in parliament, Suga stressed that Tokyo's position regarding the Northern Territories remains unchanged, Japanese sovereignty extends to the southern part of the Kuril Islands. It is from this position that the Japanese government intends to negotiate with Russia to conclude a peace treaty.

The Northern Territories are the islands that our sovereignty extends to. In addition, the subject of negotiations with Russia on a peace treaty is to determine the ownership of all four northern islands. This is the consistent position of our government

- said the Japanese prime minister.

Earlier, Yoshihide Suga said that Tokyo intends to finally resolve the issue of ownership of the Northern Territories with Russia, without postponing this problem for the future.

Meanwhile, Moscow previously outlined its position in the negotiations and does not intend to retreat from it. Russian diplomats have repeatedly stated that in order to continue the negotiations, Japan must recognize the results of World War II and Russian sovereignty over the Kuril Islands. At the same time, Moscow does not intend to transfer its territories to anyone.

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[Eldorado]

In you , not the Kuriles!

[Tatyana]

Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga confirmed the extension of Japanese sovereignty to the South Kuril Islands. He stated this in the country's parliament.

Well, what do you say to that? Only one!
So that the Japanese were empty!

[credo]

Quote: Tatiana

Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga confirmed the extension of Japanese sovereignty to the South Kuril Islands. He stated this in the country's parliament.

Well, what do you say to that? Only one!
So that the Japanese were empty!

... as well as Georgians, Ukrainians, Estonians, Lithuanians, Latvians, Finns, Chinese and others on the list.

[The black]

White sakura blossoms beautifully
mountain nightingale sings loudly
Yoshihide sake drank a lot while admiring Fujiyama
oh, why didn’t I eat sake with sushi and rice ..

[The black]

Noble Samurai Suge
Broke my brain at sunrise
Cannabis smokes a lot
Kuril Islands are fancy

[astepanov]

Cannabis of ripened hemp
Flies slowly to Fujiyama;
Gokudo made origami:
Mountain on the edge of the earth
Blooming sakura delicate reflection
And the creme brulee of flowering plums.
And he thinks: “What will happen after
That how I will not live?
Is my name fading away
It will disappear, it will disappear, it will disappear -
Like smoky smog over Fukushima
Going into the blue sky?
Will I be forgotten soon
It will take only a year, maybe five,
How the summers forget
The one who quit performing?
I’ll leave, to the sounds of karaoke,
To dissolve forever
how it disappears in the east
beyond the distant island of water?
Will a geisha cry somewhere in a temple
Or cranes purr? "

Flies slowly to Fuji
Cant of ripened hemp.

(Gokudo is a member of the Yakuza gang, if that's what. And sumotori is a sumo wrestler). I indulge in such rhymes out of boredom.

[Eldorado]

Quote: astepanov

Cannabis of ripened hemp
Flies slowly to Fujiyama;
Gokudo made origami:
Mountain on the edge of the earth
Blooming sakura delicate reflection
And the creme brulee of flowering plums.
And he thinks: “What will happen after
That how I will not live?
Is my name fading away
It will disappear, it will disappear, it will disappear -
Like smoky smog over Fukushima
Going into the blue sky?
Will I be forgotten soon
It will take only a year, maybe five,
How the summers forget
The one who quit performing?
I’ll leave, to the sounds of karaoke,
To dissolve forever
how it disappears in the east
beyond the distant island of water?
Will a geisha cry somewhere in a temple
Or cranes purr? "

Flies slowly to Fuji
Cant of ripened hemp.

(Gokudo is a member of the Yakuza gang, if that's what. And sumotori is a sumo wrestler). I indulge in such rhymes out of boredom.

Not bad, not bad!

[Vladimir Mashkov]

"The Northern Territories are the islands to which our sovereignty extends. In addition, the subject of negotiations with Russia on a peace treaty is to determine the ownership of all four northern islands. This is the consistent position of our government."

Suga, like Abe, got into a deep trap with these "Japanese South Kuriles". After all, Russia will never give up peacefully their islands: you have to be complete idiots or traitors to inflict such significant damage on Russia!
But in Japan one cannot become prime minister without declaring that he will return the Kuril Islands! So all the prime minister have to get out inside in front of their inadequate fellow tribesmen, making such contradictory statements: "The islands are ours, but we will negotiate this with Russia." But Suga Russia declares categorically: "The Northern Territories are the islands to which our sovereignty extends" - this is war!

[keeper03]

Pretty boy !!!

[Gado]

Play well, keep up the good work!

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: credo

Quote: Tatiana

Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga confirmed the extension of Japanese sovereignty to the South Kuril Islands. He stated this in the country's parliament.

Well, what do you say to that? Only one!
So that the Japanese were empty!

... as well as Georgians, Ukrainians, Estonians, Lithuanians, Latvians, Finns, Chinese and others on the list.

Everyone declares! Every day a different nasty thing .. Either "aleshunavalny" will be sent to play the role of "setykotlets", then they promise to return the Crimea, then the Kuril Islands, then they threaten to bomb, then sanctions for the fact that we continue to breathe .. They yelp! Stupid to shamelessness ... Eh, Russia is still not strong enough .. But nothing! Let's save up!

[Alex777]

Let us sink a couple of ships to the bottom, on this the sovereignty of Japan will calm down.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Alex777

Let us sink a couple of ships to the bottom, on this the sovereignty of Japan will calm down.

Who will let you in? These? The question arises only due to the fact that seeing the toothless, "partner" position of the Russian authorities, the Japanese also decided to try to squeeze the islands, Russia is weak in the international arena, there is no former authority and is not expected while the grabber is in power.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: lis-ik

while the grabbers are in power.

Grabbers have always been in power. For a very short time after the Great October Revolution, non-silver people were in power. And that's all .. It started. Benefits, special rations, deficit, speculation in their position .. The main thing is not grabbers. They are planted periodically. The main financial and military component of the state. Then they will be afraid of yapping. We will not get stronger. , tea is not 90s.

[fruc]

Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga confirmed the extension of Japanese sovereignty to the South Kuril Islands. He stated this in the country's parliament.

And to whom did he confirm? On the Kuril Islands, if they heard him, they sent him very far.

[credo]

Quote: El Dorado

In you , not the Kuriles!

But I'm wondering if it will be weak for him to say this in the face of Putin or Lavrov, or is it just for the local plebs?
After all, it may happen that before meeting with Putin, the Russian side will offer Suga to clarify his words and only then will it decide whether it is expedient to talk to him in principle.

[Machito]

Suge, when will you return Hokkaido to Russia? Hokkaido is a primordially Russian land, illegally occupied by Japanese fascists.

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: credo

But I'm wondering if it will be weak for him to say this in the face of Putin or Lavrov, or is it just for the local plebs?

Putin's kissing with the prime minister of the homeland of judo is over.
The prime minister has changed.
Now there will be ju-after ...
The main thing is that when our Guarantor also changes, the Motherland does not lose an inch of its land, reclaimed in bloody battles.

[abrakadabre]

judo are over

Now there will be ju-after ...

Ju after will be after. And now is the time to release just Ju for negotiations.

[URAL72]

Don't worry, judging by the pace of rearmament in the Kuril Islands, we are not going to give them away. But promises can and should be made - this will make it easier for Japanese businesses to invest in the Far East ...

[Ascold1901]

Here and the "principle" is not observed!))) The Constitution says - FIG you all! (well, if you sublimate). What will the negotiations be about?))))

[Threaded screw]

The Constitution says - Figs to you all!

You are a naive person, if you call rejection a demarcation or clarification or a return to agreements / agreements, then the article of the constitution is no longer applicable, besides, if necessary, they will write something specifying in it again, as if rejection is not possible only if ... All this chatter.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

and why minus, the person said everything correctly read the constitution, just the same purely legally it is possible

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

and why minus, the person said everything correctly read the constitution, just the same purely legally it is possible

So it is easier to click on the minus sign with the mouse than to read and think. Not only everyone can think, as one "eloquent person" said, few people can do it.

[Tusv]

Quote: Threaded Screw

You are a naive person, if you call rejection a demarcation or clarification or a return to agreements / agreements, then the article of the constitution is no longer applicable

What is demarcation? The essence of border optimization. Part of tuda, part of syuda. That is, the Japanese must provide a part of Hokkaido, then it will be legitimate. Otherwise, point four is alienation, which is prohibited

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Tusv

What is demarcation? Part of tuda, part of syuda. That is, the Japanese must provide a part of Hokkaido, then it will be legitimate.

demarcation is not tudy-syudy it is already the final point of action, but delimitation ...
if desired, through peace treaties, you can pull up a lot, including the islands of the island, and syudy figs, if someone like a gozman-lampshade gets to the authorities, it will work out

[Ascold1901]

Threaded screw You do not know what demarcation is. There is no agreement yet, but formally we are still
in a state of war, there can be no demarcation at all.
"... by clarifying or returning to agreements / agreements, the article of the constitution is no longer applicable", "... once again, those who clarify it will write down ..." - read what you wrote and think about it.
Negotiations will be on amendments to our Constitution? Are you seriously?)))

[lis-ik]

Quote: Threaded screw

All this chatter

Gold words. Especially relevant with today's bribe-takers.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Ascold1901

The Constitution says - Fig to you all

for the sake of truth, not so and there are options

[Tusv]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

for the sake of truth, not so and there are options

Return to agreements - 2 islands. 4 islands = Alienation - prison to the president
Demarcation, the essence of border optimization. Without Russian sovereignty on a part of Hokkaido, this is not demarcation, but alienation - a prison for the president.
There are no options at all

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Tusv

Alienation is a prison to the president
Demarcation, the essence of border optimization.

Actions (with the exception of delimitation, demarcation, re-demarcation of the state border of the Russian Federation with neighboring states) aimed at alienating part of the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as calls for such actions, are not allowed.

Border delimitation (lat. Delimitatio “marking”) - determination of the general position and direction of the state border between neighboring states through negotiations.

Delimitation orders are usually an integral part of peace treaties or special agreements on the establishment or change of state borders.

under this "except" lawyers, if they wish, will fail anything

[Tusv]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

under this "except" lawyers, if they wish, will fail anything

Lawyers can do that, the main thing is how this liner will affect the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation.
And so. For example, it is possible to justify the application of the doctrine of the use of nuclear weapons in any case, relying on the loss of statehood. Let's say to lose face in negotiations. In my opinion, a direct threat based on the main law of a revolutionary situation

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

first read the article COMPLETELY
second read what the terms mean

[Tusv]

I read it carefully. The clause on alienation comes last and separate. That is, it prohibits the same demarcation with the damage to the territories of the Russian Federation, but it allows the annexation of Hokkaido. Moreover, the constitution obliges to immediately form a government of "demarcated territories" as a new subject of the federation. In general, about the borders in the new edition legitimized the annexation of Crimea at the highest instance

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Tusv

I read it carefully.

apparently not, if you saw only demarcation (simply marking the border on the ground), there was also a delimitation, defining the border through treaties
in the article it is written in Russian and white
Actions (with the exception of delimitation, demarcation, re-demarcation of the state border of the Russian Federation with neighboring states) aimed at alienating a part of the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as calls for such actions are not allowed.
alienation is not allowed EXCEPT ....
if you speak Russian, then I think he will understand what this phrase means

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Ascold1901

The Constitution says - Figs to you all!

There is a lot that is written in the constitution. Among other things, it says that we have a legal and social state. And also the fact that our people run the state)))))

[Tusv]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

There is a lot that is written in the constitution. Among other things, it says that we have a legal and social state.

Isn't that so? Retirement is inevitable if you don't dress up in a wooden mac sooner. An ambulance will come and send you to the hospital if you don't write a refusal. On vacation? Damn, I don’t want to, but I didn’t skip the prescribed annual leave of 28 days, and the law obliges. You have to maneuver. Don't you go to the polls? You are not doing your constitutional duty. What if Navalny and Ksenia will be chosen without you?
Am I clearly explaining?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Tusv

Is it not so?

That is, do you think that we have a social, legal state ruled by the people? Did I understand correctly, or is this sarcasm you have?

[Tusv]

I have three foreheads. Son. Think what you want. Senior - HSE, middle Baumak, trifle - in Fryazino. For these three. I didn't pay a penny. All State

[Simargl]

Quote: Ascold1901

The Constitution says - Figs to you all!

Where is it written there?
Here is the fact that the people do not participate in this - there is such.

[Lesorub]

Earlier, Yoshihide Suga said that Tokyo intends to finally resolve the issue of ownership of the Northern Territories with Russia, without postponing this problem for the future.

The former prime minister - just as desperately punching himself in the chest, proving the entire cadence (or just chattering for the locals) that he would resolve the issue with the islands - the current one picked up the wave of populism and follows in his footsteps.

[URAL72]

"from a dead donkey's ears" to them - somewhere I've already heard that. That's where you need to cram the BMPT, with a 57mm cannon you get a good anti-landing tool.

[antivirus]

Japan climbs for revenge.
And Carthage must be destroyed.
I am for .
after the defeat of Hannibal and defeat in the Punic War, Carthage lived under the pressure of Rome. put the squeeze on it .. destroyed.
minus 68 is from the military mind.
9 warning "connoisseurs" of the history of Rome-Carthage set for the disadvantages that they look using their official position.

[BecmepH]

Quote: El Dorado

In you , not the Kuriles!

Realizing that I'm grabbing the minuses, I ask you: "Give the end to cut off, what will it be?"))

[atakan]

First, the Japanese promise to make nuclear warheads in six months (if necessary, or maybe already)
Second, the United States and Naglia and France will support them.
Third, Japan has several aircraft carriers, so far without aircraft capable of taking off and landing.)
Fourth, what China will do is unknown.
Fifth, our government has an ostrich policy.
Sixth, our fleet is actually not there (the enemy will have, as it were, not a 20-fold excess.
Seventh, submarine warning systems (both) of the Soviet period have been out of order for three years. What was written here a couple of times.

Based on all of the above, it is clear that the Japanese have calculated the odds and spoiled.

[Meckajiuhe]

For a long time no one sent them, apparently.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Meckajiuhe

For a long time no one sent them, apparently.

  Few were beaten in 1945. It was necessary to raise the victory flag in Tokyo, then they would be silent.

[Machito]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Meckajiuhe

For a long time no one sent them, apparently.

  Few were beaten in 1945. It was necessary to raise the victory flag in Tokyo, then they would be silent.

Tokyo, not Tokyo, but Hokkaido had to be occupied by all means and annexed to the RSFSR.

[Grits]

Quote: Bearded

Tokyo, not Tokyo, but Hokkaido had to be occupied by all means and annexed to the RSFSR.

Stalin wanted. But the Americans harshly hinted to him that this should not be done. And Stalin decided not to ramify with the Americans once again.

[Machito]

Quote: Gritsa

Quote: Bearded

Tokyo, not Tokyo, but Hokkaido had to be occupied by all means and annexed to the RSFSR.

Stalin wanted. But the Americans harshly hinted to him that this should not be done. And Stalin decided not to ramify with the Americans once again.

Stalin with all the ramsil, apparently there were other arguments. Judge him? The scale of personality does not allow me. He had his own ideas, possibly wrong.

[credo]

Quote: Meckajiuhe

For a long time no one sent them, apparently.

In general, since 1945, no one at the official level has ever sent them either in the USSR or in Russia, and this miscalculation must be eliminated as soon as possible, and maybe even put forward counter-territorial demands.

[210ox]

Interesting. With the same success, I can confirm the sovereignty of at least Hokkaido.

[Machito]

Hokkaido - Russian Land.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: 210ox

Interesting. With the same success, I can confirm the sovereignty of at least Hokkaido.

Come on ... Skakuas also scream at every corner, splashing saliva, that Crimea is Ukrainian, and Donbass is occupied by Russia. Crimea has become less Russian from this? Or Donbass decided to surrender to the mercy of the SBU?

So here - no matter how much they say "halva", but all the same, in their mouths only the taste of shit will remain ...

America, no matter how much it would like to have a base there, but for Japanese wishes it will not go into open conflict with Russia. And if the yapps try to poke their own way, let the Georgians share their experience of 2008 with them. Will we stop 60 kilometers from Tokyo? Or will we take Tokyo? They live there and so on each other's necks because of overpopulation. And if all of Japan were driven south, to Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Will they sleep when they stand?

[Crowe]

The Northern Territories are the islands over which our sovereignty extends - this is the consistent position of our government

And here is our consistent position.

[figwam]

Quote: Crowe

And here is our consistent position.

I confirm ...

[Machito]

Figvam Figwam from Figwam.

[Cowbra]

He also wanted to resign, like Shinze Abe

[hirurg]

Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga confirmed the extension of Japanese sovereignty to the South Kuril Islands. He stated this in the country's parliament.
For such words, you can get it in hokaido.

[Pereira]

How did he do it? That's what interests me. And then let's think about Hokkaido.

[VORON538]

And then across Okinawa!

[Mouse]

Suga sake too much? let him sleep and everything will pass ...

[voronin]

Quote: Mouse

Suga sake too much?

Why are you so right away ... Maybe he didn't drink enough?

[Voltsky]

The Northern Territories are the islands to which our sovereignty extends

The main thing is to believe pinocchio; Well, as there is theory, there is practice, in theory you think that they are yours. Well, for practice with the device, they laid down on your theories

[Reserve buildbat]

The impression is that each next prime minister of the Japs is sick with a more severe form of schizophrenia than the previous one.

[Rose capone]

And I feel sorry for the Japs. There is no free land, all the chic pieces are given over to American military bases, warehouses, airfields and training grounds. Here are the Japs and howling the song of the Moscow region beggars in the Kazan electric trains: "We ourselves are not local people, they robbed us on the way, please ........."

[voyaka uh]

Actually, 3/4 of the American bases and troops are located on the Japanese island of Okinawa.
It is located hundreds of kilometers away from mainland Japan. Located between
Japan and Taiwan.
The rest of the bases are used jointly by the American and Japanese armies.

[Dym71]

Quote: voyaka uh

The rest of the bases are used together

Konichiva of the American occupation, the most democratic occupation in the world!

[Antokha]

It turns out that there are no land problems in Japan. It seems to us that all of Japan is one big City. Look at the photos of Tokyo, and if you look at other places ... They even have summer cottages. In addition, if you are going to fight with neighboring countries, and even arrange atrocities there like the Germans, be prepared that your territory will be taken away, and they will never forget this.

[tralflot1832]

Look at their fleet, they can climb, like Russia is not bombing. What did they agree?

[KCA]

It is necessary to send him a box of sweets "Come on, take it away", let him have a bite at the tea ceremony

[DMoroz]

stubbornness is the dignity of donkeys ...

[Grits]

Quote: DMoroz

stubbornness is the dignity of donkeys ...

Worthy of our brothers for lack of reason. Those also extend their sovereignty over Crimea.
Not really, the Japanese, in terms of the presence / lack of brains, have also slipped to the level of the hohlopithecus?

[DMoroz]

Well, if a ministry is created to manage the "northern territories" by analogy with 404, yes, yes ... But Japs, unlike those money for empty cutting, are unlikely to be allowed, so shake the air for the electorate.

[Doccor18]

... Japanese sovereignty extends to the southern Kuril Islands ...

Maybe Okinawa can extend Russian sovereignty .. And what, a good island ...

[Gardamir]

And yet, gentlemen, moderators, return the cons for articles. Find out the rating, what to write about, what is not worth it.
And by the way, what do they say from the Russian government. And so yes, you don't have to work in the government, everything bad in the country comes from enemies that are all around.

[Petroff]

Ummm.
Does the fact that a peace treaty has not been signed between us means that we are at war with Japan?

[Glory1974]

Does the fact that a peace treaty has not been signed between us means that we are at war with Japan?

Doesn't speak at all. They capitulated.
We do not have a peace treaty with Germany either, they also capitulated, so this does not bother us.

[Petroff]

They capitulated to the United States. There were no formal agreements with the USSR. Otherwise, the question of the Kuril Islands would have been identified in them. In fact, we are still at war.

[faiver]

Does the fact that a peace treaty has not been signed between us means that we are at war with Japan?

- I will probably disappoint you, no, he does not say ...

[Petroff]

Why did you decide that I would be upset !?

[Cron]

I personally don't see anything other than positive. The louder their rhetoric, the more ours will begin to develop these territories

[RUSS]

Everything is very simple, for Japanese prime ministers it is like a mantra, no one of them will tell them that the question is closed about the Kuril Islands, so they broadcast to their public, if the prime minister says that the Kuriles are Russian, then tomorrow he will be retired, and this will be its term is to announce and that's it.

[Ros 56]

Smoked you, you say, but ho-ho, not ho-ho.

Here, with all your heart.

[faiver]

can I, too, for a change over some-thread territories to declare sovereignty?
although we can be sent to the wrong place for this

[Furious bambr]

The Japanese Self-Defense Forces are rearming at a horse-drawn pace, Biden will bark to anyone in love with support. So the hell knows what they have in their head - idle chatter or plans

[Dikson]

Strange, why hasn't anyone thanked Boris Yeltsin here yet? It was he, at a meeting in Krasnoyarsk, in time immemorial, drunkenly the Kuriles promised to return to the Japanese? In a word, not a sparrow ..

[faiver]

Strange, why hasn't anyone thanked Boris Yeltsin here yet?

- how did you not say that? They got a whole Yeltsin center over there ... damn it ...

[VORON538]

Let Borisku be asked, "Where is the money, Zin", it is true that he is a long time ago, but it is not too late for them to embark on the path of a true samurai and communicate with him face to face THERE!

[Dikson]

... Is it okay that this is all recorded in the protocols? Our presidents can say this and forget .. And the Japs seized on promises, irresponsible, and will bend their line ..

[VORON538]

So I say, let the sake plump and he will be asked THERE!
Yes, it would be nice to have links to the terms and conditions and protocols with the real signatures of all parties to which you refer.

[Glory1974]

It is necessary to initiate a criminal case against this prime minister, declare sanctions on him, and prohibit him from entering the country. According to our constitution, he is a criminal as he calls for the separation of our territory. The Foreign Ministry should make a statement, and not limit itself to expressing concern.

[faiver]

Issue an arrest warrant and serve a summons to appear for interrogation to the investigator of the IC

[Dikson]

.. Well, sue Yeltsin ... You look, they will collect, as in the old days, the 20th Congress ...)))

[faiver]

no, no, we don't need new Khrushchevs

[donavi49]

AND? And if he also accepts sanctions? For example, will it ban the supply of small SAITO engines for the most massive UAV of the Russian army?

Machine tools of various types. Automated lines. Will ban the supply of products Furuno (world leader and monopolist in the field of echolocation and commercial navigation radar). Will prohibit investments in the production facilities of Japanese companies in Russia.

[pipetro]

And nothing that they receive money for these products, and also carry out its transit through Russia to other countries? Could have done it a long time ago ..

[Shooter22]

Quote: glory1974

It is necessary to initiate a criminal case against this prime minister, declare sanctions on him, and prohibit him from entering the country. According to our constitution, he is a criminal as he calls for the separation of our territory. The Foreign Ministry should make a statement, and not limit itself to expressing concern.

By the way, the Americans would have done so. But how can our "rogue" twitch when the cooperative is under threat.

[Prisoner]

Sake went overboard, undersized?

[rocket757]

Japanese Prime Minister confirms Japanese sovereignty over the southern Kuril Islands

They said, "loudly, and then what?

[Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich]

And then wait.
Wait and patiently strengthen their own economy, science, industry, gradually, gradually restore the army and the military-industrial complex, prepare the ground in the international arena, stock up on allies.
Wait and watch the slow, gradual degradation of Russia. Degradation of the economy, science, industry ...
The army, the military-industrial complex, education and science in Russia without funding, i.e. without a strong economic foundation they will "dry up by themselves" ...
And when this happens, the Northern Territories can be torn away by force.

ps before minus, remember: before the Russo-Japanese War, we also considered the Japanese as some kind of harmless animals. How did it end ??? Before the Russo-Japanese War, we thought the same. that we are giants, our army is invincible (at least for the Japanese), and our fleet is invincible (at least for the Japanese). Well, how did it end ???

[rocket757]

Objective reality is such a ... situation !!! which does not care whether you accept it or not.
If you take, understand and take all the necessary measures to resist or fit into it ... then there is a chance to survive, overcome!
If you deny and do nothing ... you will be worse off!
I will not say that I agree with everything that you wrote, but there are reasons for concern! And at the expense of the necessary measures on the part of our top, leading-responsible, there are big doubts!
Much needs to be changed, corrected ... it will not work by itself.
PS question - do I look like a "patriotic uryakolka" ??? Where did you find this with me?

[Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich]

Dear rocket757 (Victor), I did not say directly or indirectly that I see you as a "patriotic joke". Not a single word !!!
I expressed only my purely personal and very subjective opinion regarding the issue you raised and nothing more.
If I hurt you or offended you with something, I am ready to apologize, because God knows in no way wanted to inflict any offense on you.
At the same time, reading your commentary, I see that our views largely coincide, only you are somewhat more optimistic, and, alas, I am a complete pessimist ...

[rocket757]

Sergey Olegovich
No offense or insults! I accept any opinion objectively. We are different people, we have different opinions, we express them and it is right, there are more opportunities to find the right path of development for my country.
At the expense of an optimist, a pessimist ... I, an old cynic, but in relation to our country I see only one way, the consolidation of citizens, a change in the political space and movement forward towards lofty goals !!!
I always call for that ...
Now we have many problems, but this is not a reason to despair, but a reason to look for new ways, ways of development ...
Let's start with ourselves, gather in a mighty bunch and then fix everything that was skewed in previous years ... and those who will interfere, definitely overboard our huge, glorious ship!
Something like this.
All the best, best regards, rocket757

[lucul]

And then wait.
Wait and patiently strengthen their own economy, science, industry, gradually, gradually restore the army and the military-industrial complex, prepare the ground in the international arena, stock up on allies.

Do not tell - what kind of development? Our entire culture and all universities are occupied by foreigners. There were Tolstoy, Chekhov, Dostoevsky, Turgenev, Gogol in the 19th century - but now what? Do you know many Russian writers? What kind of development of the nation can we talk about?

[rocket757]

Quote: lucul

Don't be funny - what kind of development? We have

A colleague answered my question, i.e. about Japan .... they will wait for Russia to fall apart, and they, like, will be better and even better.
About Russia has been written below and is not very pleasant for all of us.

[Usher]

Quote: lucul

And then wait.
Wait and patiently strengthen their own economy, science, industry, gradually, gradually restore the army and the military-industrial complex, prepare the ground in the international arena, stock up on allies.

Do not tell - what kind of development? Our entire culture and all universities are occupied by foreigners. There were Tolstoy, Chekhov, Dostoevsky, Turgenev, Gogol in the 19th century - but now what? Do you know many Russian writers? What kind of development of the nation can we talk about?

You won't believe I know, but do you read a lot of Russian literature? The same Isai Kalashnikov, my reference book in the 90s.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

......, and then what?

Everything, as usual, to promise at the grave of his father, to swear by terrible oaths, as others swore earlier. ...

[rocket757]

Hi Dmitry
A colleague from above wrote a correct assessment of the situation.
Let, in my opinion, not everything is so obvious, obviously, true, but the direction is just that.
Everyone has problems, the question is who will be able to solve them and in what direction !!!
These are not toys, empty words, slogans cannot solve anything!
Time plays not only for us, they also have, they have their own advantages and achievements. One cannot ignore this.

[Reptiloid]

Have a nice day, Victor!
Well, yes, this is for us. And let the Japanese do what their rules prescribe: draws a short sword, commits hara-kiri (aka seppuku), and let him also call a friend with a long sword --- to cut off his head (supreme seppuku!). And also let him write his own poem, his deathbed --- 17 syllables, and if he did not have time to write, then let the followers write and pass him off !!!
True, the Japanese did not always die of hara-kiri, especially in recent years! There is a known case when a samurai kamikaze during the war made himself a hara-kiri, and a Soviet surgeon saved him. He was a suicide pilot, but fate was different. He did not return to Japan, but began to live in the USSR, worked in different places. 5 years ago he was 96 years old. Is he alive now?

[rocket757]

Dmitry, a politician and "traditions" are not compatible things.
Such times have come. For the majority this happened a long time ago, the stragglers heard ... recently. Everything is the same now.

[Reptiloid]

, the Japanese never made any curtsies to anyone. They tried to strictly observe only their own interests.

[rocket757]

No, big brother is seriously holding them for .... yes for everything! And this was clearly shown when the "Asian tiger" wanted to jump over the barrier. Running, then the tiger, in the aviary ... no further, no higher!

[Reptiloid]

Once we discussed Japan and their response about obedience to the staff. Like they wait, another time will come and everything will be different. Other times can be assumed, but you can get something completely different. Past experience about this was and is. The example of state elections speaks volumes. Like Sheckley on the Distorted Worlds. Where all laws are violated, there are no rules, any rules can be violated, including this one .... A distorted world can demonstrate its power by observing the rules .......

[rocket757]

If you wait a long time, you can wait for something that you did not expect !!!

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

If you wait a long time, you can wait for something that you did not expect !!!

You can wait for the corpse of the enemy, floating on the river ... The monkey can wait. when the tigers in the valley harass each other ... It's all --- within the framework of Eastern philosophy, where reincarnation is assumed.
And there is also an opposite proverb, in which either the donkey dies, or the padishah, without waiting for anything.
The Soviet people, when they created the USSR, did not support the philosophy of expectation!

[rocket757]

So we now just wait, it's just stupid .... we need to make efforts in the right direction.

[cniza]

Quote: rocket757

Japanese Prime Minister confirms Japanese sovereignty over the southern Kuril Islands

They said, "loudly, and then what?

Looks like they enjoy playing this game - the main thing is to say ...

[rocket757]

So we have nothing to be surprised at. Everything is repeated over and over again.
Their policy is not to declare a desire, concern, hope, or even a threat, take away / return the islands ... you can not get involved in big politics.

[cniza]

And most importantly, the device is busy and loaded ...

[rocket757]

Under STE it is also not weakly armed ... although other neighbors will not let them relax! They annoyed everyone, pretty much!

[cniza]

They annoyed this to put it mildly, in general it will not be boring ...

[rocket757]

Even though the graters are small-town, only sparks can fly in all directions ... and there are a lot of straws in all places, so fire-fighting means should be ready!

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

At the official level, Russia needs to respond more rigidly to such claims of Japan.

The Kuriles are Russian territory and bargaining is not appropriate here !!!

[Cat]

As I understand it, the question is, who needs a peace treaty more - Russia or Japan? At the same time, the governments of both countries understand that any concession on this issue is a guaranteed kick in the ass with the stamp "betrayal of national interests." Therefore, no one will seriously deal with this, except that blablabla in the media, which we are observing.

[Lord of the Sith]

Japanese Prime Minister confirms Japanese sovereignty over the southern Kuril Islands

Did they smoke mushrooms there? Kuril Islands are Russia, period. Let them go cry in the stars and stripes vest.

[Reptiloid]

.... a stars and stripes vest. ...

Once upon a time there was something about Japan and the United States, an allegory of course ---
Wasabi in his pants smeared,
The samurai soldier covered.
Rarely belching like a radish,
Kuchi Honshu fertilized.
Covering myself with a mattress flag,
Their fuss continues.
Foolish, stupid people
They don't know, they don't remember ........

[ioan-e]

The Northern Territories are the islands that our sovereignty extends to.

Well, if it spreads, then let's go there without the approval of the Russian Federation with infrastructure projects, and I'll see what they will do to you when they try to enter!
PS And then they tell each other in parliament fairy tales - ours, ours, but things are still there!

[Alien From]

Roofing felts are radiation, roofing felts are not a good grass in Japan ..., such nonsense is)

[hydro]

Well, Japs, you only have a forceful option) or bribery of some president with the government) judging by the appetite, expensive bribery)

[hydro]

Well, or sanctions too, only the enterprises and products of import substitution will have to be created for the military-industrial complex.

[aleks700]

I confirm the full sovereignty of Russia over the island of Hokaido.

[K-50]

Can confirm anything, but! The Kuriles are Russia !!!

[GAndr]

Listen, what these Japs are funny ... They all have complaints about Russia, ha And the fact that for almost 80 years they have been under the full occupation of the United States, somehow they don’t blather;) Here is the power of the purifying atomic bombings, what does it do ...

[Maikcg]

Hence the conclusion if you defiantly zhahnut in Fukushima (it is already dirty there, a little extra x-rays from a clean warhead will not greatly change the picture), the claims will probably subside.

[Gunner]

Or maybe it's better to bang on them? I would have banged more than once.

[Lord of the Sith]

We will definitely bang. And more than once. All Japan to dust.
But after)))

[1536]

In Japan, these so-called "premieres" change like karate fighters in this wrestling competition. What can we expect from them? The next "prime minister" will not say that the Japanese sleep with dolls without getting married because of this, and therefore their demographics are much worse than even in Russia. Nor will he say that Japan has no politics, since its territory is occupied by American troops, that Japanese culture has practically been destroyed by American mass culture. Nor will he say who ordered him to prepare again for war with Russia and again commit crimes against humanity, as in the 1930s-1940s. This Japanese man hopes that by winning this "new future war" and having recaptured the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin, he will give the Japanese a boost to development. That is all nonsense, he probably loves his Japan, that's why he lost his head. Naturally, being in such a state, he does not think about the consequences. The epidemic of general insanity reached the Japanese rulers.
I will quote the words of our classics: "You will get ears from a dead donkey, gentlemen, Japanese, not the Kuril Islands."

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Japanese Prime Minister confirms Japanese sovereignty over the southern Kuril Islands

well, try to come to the Kuril Islands bypassing the Russian border guards, you are our sovereign

[Ripap]

Hah, I see there are hap-handed moods reigning here. But if the Japanese come and take these islands, what will we do? Their fleet is significantly superior to the Pacific Fleet, the forces and means of the Japanese self-defense forces are significantly superior to everything we have in the Far East. Starting a nuclear war with tens of millions of victims from behind two almost deserted rocks is such a thing. Moreover, even the nuclear doctrine of the Russian Federation does not allow this, since there is no threat to the very existence of the state, and Japan is not a nuclear power. If the Japanese really want them, they will take them and we will not do anything to them.

[Glory to Berkut]

Why haven't they come and taken them?

[Ripap]

Obviously. For lack of political will and sufficient approval of the local electorate and the Washington regional committee. And this and that can easily change. In Japanese society, pacifist sentiments are still very strong and do not accept war as a means of resolving political conflicts. However, this situation is gradually changing, the Japanese society is being radicalized.

[hydro]

It does not quickly radicalize without intervention. So there is time for rearmament and consolidation of the security of the islands, only it is necessary to use it correctly.

[Ripap]

This should have been done yesterday. And now it's too late. Yapi also do not stand idle in place. To begin with, you need to stop toil with foolishness and reconsider the recruitment of fleets with a great emphasis on the Pacific Fleet and Northern Fleet, leave a couple of pennants in the "lug" fleets to support the pants, tk. they proved their almost complete uselessness during the Second World War, and since then nothing has changed for the better for them.

[Glory to Berkut]

Do you not admit that an attempt to take the islands away from the Russian Federation may result in a blow from China? Whatever the Japanese leadership thinks, legally and de facto the islands belong to Russia. China can use such an incident in order to eventually pay off old debts, remove disputes over territories and get many potential benefits. At the same time, legally, this will be assistance to a friendly country that has been attacked by an aggressor.

[Dikson]

Uh-huh ... especially in such a "puddle" as the Black Sea .. "leave a couple of pennants" .. There, and so NATO troops go over the heads ... They press us to bases on all seas .. And the Pacific Fleet because of the Syrian and other As a result, the Mediterranean wants to stay bald ... Eh, Tsushima - Hiroshima ...

[Ripap]

The puddle is, through and through from the territory of NATO countries, the exit from which is completely blocked by the NATO country. It makes no sense to have any significant fleet there, since the NATO countries will still have a total advantage there and this entire fleet will die there in the event of a war.

[hydro]

Rocks are one thing, only the appetite comes with eating, but what if they climb to Sakhalin and other places? TNW will be used 100% of a small format, strategists - they are in store for the USA and China and Europe, they will not be touched, Topol will not shoot at Tokyo for Sakhalin, but mini bombs, yes!

[DEVIL LIFE'S]

I am sure that Russian geologists will prove that Japan is an extension of the Russian mainland shelf, and then drags them along the ships

[garik77]

Come and get it.

[kartalovkolya]

Well, what did you want from the wretched, so ordered the "great white father from Fashington," Hao!

[Kent0001]

The guys have very serious problems with the economy. and they again delayed this song about the islands)))))

[dmmyak40]

Come and get it!

[rusich]

A cross-eyed mug will not crack from sovereignty

[cniza]

Russian diplomats have repeatedly stated that in order to continue the negotiations, Japan must recognize the results of World War II and Russian sovereignty over the Kuril Islands.

And to stand on that, let them push ...

[Fedorovich]

A dragon soup [`d Mr. Prime Minister does not want?

[Vlad Svargin]

Japanese Premier Reaffirms "Japanese Sovereignty" Over The Southern Kuril Islands

Another “dreamer” about something that doesn’t belong to him, having the “striped Shere Khan” behind him, but it’s unlikely that this striped guy will really stand up for his Tabaqui.

[vovashturman]

The dog barks, the caravan moves on......

[kursovik]

Naive Japanese...They’ve already forgotten how we crushed their Kwantung group in two months, a million strong, and didn’t even ask for indemnity! But you also have Kolchak’s gold and atrocities in the Far East .. Maybe publish the “samurai” archives?
And when the Nazis actually stormed Moscow and the USSR had to hold dozens of full-fledged divisions against you so that you wouldn’t rush towards us?
You owe us a lot of money and you’re still on your knees .. We are kind and not vindictive, but for the time being .. I feel sorry for you slaves of the USA

[Gunther]

in the photo, two people in masks are orderlies preparing to knit a patient

[Maikcg]

I wonder if this chatterbox will commit hara-kiri if the issue is not resolved, or just like Abe is not a samurai? After all, the government is not a body where, as they say, you can only use your tongue (c)

[Xscorpion]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

and why minus, the person said everything correctly read the constitution, just the same purely legally it is possible

The demarcation concerns disputed territories that are de jure not part of the country. The Kuril Islands are part of the Russian Federation. So they are right to minus

[Xscorpion]

Quote: RipRap

Hah, I see there are hap-handed moods reigning here. But if the Japanese come and take these islands, what will we do? Their fleet is significantly superior to the Pacific Fleet, the forces and means of the Japanese self-defense forces are significantly superior to everything we have in the Far East. Starting a nuclear war with tens of millions of victims from behind two almost deserted rocks is such a thing. Moreover, even the nuclear doctrine of the Russian Federation does not allow this, since there is no threat to the very existence of the state, and Japan is not a nuclear power. If the Japanese really want them, they will take them and we will not do anything to them.

At least at the moment, their military doctrine prevents them from doing this. Their self-defense forces are intended only for protection and participation in peacekeeping missions. And this is spelled out in their Constitution. That is, they first need to change the Constitution, then change the military doctrine. And then legally will have the right to attack someone. But whether the cabinet of ministers and parliament will allow them to do this is another question. I’m silent about how the people will react to these innovations and how long their deputies will hold out after such ideas. The Japanese have long been not those warlike samurais, they live peaceful and satisfying, they don’t want war, and 90 percent of the population generally go from a high bell tower to these mythical northern territories. So for now our Kuril Islands are just PR stunts for their leadership. They already have a tradition, if the new prime minister does not promise to return the northern territories, then no one will approve it.

[Jaromir]

Japanese Premier Reaffirms "Japanese Sovereignty" Over The Southern Kuril Islands

This is outright rudeness. For this, diplomatic relations should be severed.

[Jaromir]

The Japanese government intends to negotiate a peace treaty with Russia

No negotiations. Need a peace treaty? We lived without him and will continue to live.

[Jaromir]

Earlier, Yoshihide Suga said that Tokyo intends to finally resolve the issue of ownership of the Northern Territories with Russia.

Make suga yourself hara-kiri.

[Jaromir]

Japanese Premier Yoshihide Suga

And his surname matches his behavior. Suga is suga everywhere, even in Japan.

[zxc15682]

Comrades, which of you will go to defend sovereignty in the Kuril Islands ..

[maiman61]

Instead of wagging your tongue like a dummy, come to “your” islands and tell me from there. that the islands are Japanese!

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

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Salmon tail splashed on the wave

The islands disappeared in the fog

They will not return

Deal with Nihon ...

© V.V. Vorontsov Islands of the Rising Sun of Russia

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