Fair Russia unites with other parties and changes its name

The A Just Russia party announced a merger with the For Truth parties of Zakhar Prilepin and the Patriots of Russia headed by Gennady Semigin. The unification agreement will be signed shortly. This was stated in the party itself.

This is not a rumor, it really is. Our three parties will merge. This is the result of the negotiations led by the party leader Sergei Mironov. The goal was to create a leftist party, a leftist patriotic

- said Mikhail Emelyanov, the first deputy head of the Duma faction of spravoorussov.

Rumors of a merger were also confirmed by the Patriots of Russia party. According to the deputy chairman of the party Nadezhda Korneeva, the signing of the final protocol of the unification is expected by the end of the week.

According to Russian media reports, the parties have already resolved almost all issues, except for one controversial one. The parties will not agree on the name of the new party. The main version of the new name - "Fair Russia - Patriots - For the Truth", in which the names of all political forces appear, does not tire the head of the Russian people, Sergei Mironov. The leader of the Social Revolutionaries insists on leaving the name "Fair Russia" without any additions. According to Mironov, the proposed version with the names of all three parties is too long.

At the same time, a compromise version of the name of the new batch is proposed. According to him, the full name of the party will sound like "Fair Russia - Patriots - For the truth", and in an abbreviated version simply "Fair Russia".

A new party is being created before the new elections to the State Duma. It is assumed that the Patriots and Prilepin's party will add votes to the Socialist Revolutionaries to enter the Duma, which will ultimately reduce the share of the Liberal Democratic Party and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.

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[Doccor18]

The sum does not change from a change in the places of the terms. Sense too ...

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Doccor18

The amount does not change from a change in the places of the terms

All right, the terms would be, otherwise there are some near-zero values.

[Alex777]

Whoever you don't attach to Mironov - everyone will be multiplied by "0".

[credo]

Quote: Alex777

Whoever you don't attach to Mironov - everyone will be multiplied by "0".

The reality is completely different, so your diagnosis is wrong.
And if, instead of Mironov, a more recognizable and charismatic leader is chosen from this tripartite alliance in the spring of this year, the number of SR supporters may well increase.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: credo

And if, instead of Mironov, a more recognizable and charismatic leader is chosen from this tripartite alliance in the spring of this year, the number of SR supporters may well increase.

Prilepin or what ?! Who could be more recognizable there, besides Mironov?

[credo]

Quote: Stirbjorn

Quote: credo

And if, instead of Mironov, a more recognizable and charismatic leader is chosen from this tripartite alliance in the spring of this year, the number of SR supporters may well increase.

Prilepin or what ?! Who could be more recognizable there, besides Mironov?

As one of the options. In the end, he is younger than Mironov, speaks well and fluently and can arouse sympathy among the younger generation.
This is a completely normal move for the same Mironov, who clearly wants to end his life in the chair of a State Duma deputy, in the future handing over the reins of the SR to a pliable person. Prilepin seems to be the very thing, and maybe not only he and there are other candidates for the post of leader of the united party.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: credo

In the end, he is younger than Mironov, speaks well and fluently and can arouse sympathy among the younger generation.

With such pictures? - highly doubtful

[credo]

Quote: Stirbjorn

Quote: credo

In the end, he is younger than Mironov, speaks well and fluently and can arouse sympathy among the younger generation.

With such pictures? - highly doubtful

So this is what you need.
For the young, with non-standard thinking, he seems to be from their generation.
Yes, and among the older and "advanced" (on some St. Petersburg channel there is a presenter of about 50 years old, with a beard and an earring in his left ear), he will pass for his own.
So I think such photos will not spoil Prilepin's karma.

[2 Level Advisor]

I think rather in the Federation Council .. for example, from Tuva .. oops .. there is Ksyusha Sobchak's mother for 20 years .. well, nothing from some region will be attached ..

[fiberboard]

Ksyusha's mother was removed long ago, then there was the leader of Man and the Law. Now my representative is from Tuva. Ksyusha's mom put forward the idea of ​​legalizing the collection of cannabis and its purchase. A certain group of citizens was delighted with this initiative.

[2 Level Advisor]

You are wrong, no one removed it .. http://council.gov.ru/structure/persons/28/

[fiberboard]

The representative of the Republic of Tyva in the Federation Council was removed

[2 Level Advisor]

I gave you a link to the Federation Council website where it is indicated by the senator from Tuva, and you argue, where is the logic?

[fiberboard]

There is no logic, I left Tuva a year ago. And I constantly go to my relatives. This topic has been raised for a long time and said that they removed it. It seems that she was appointed from another region.

[2 Level Advisor]

Vladimir, I am referring to the official information from the Federation Council today, and you are referring to your relatives .. however, you are right: from 2010 to 2012 she was from the Bryansk region, then again Tuva .. this is probably why you have such infa

[fiberboard]

May be. I know that there was Alexey Pimanov, then Oyun Dina Ivanovna was appointed, I saw her personally in Kyzyl. And about Narusova and not heard, and not visible. Maybe zeroed and assigned to Chihara again. Fortunately, the population of the republic is only 300000, there are few Russians, and there are enough representatives.

[sniperino]

Quote: fiberboard

Ksyusha's mom launched the idea of ​​legalizing the collection of cannabis and its purchase

Not for Ksyusha's distribution through the network of House 2 participants? And then they blocked the air.

[Revival]

"speaks well and can arouse sympathy among the younger generation."

After that ...... only disgust.
He lost his "authority"

[Johann Klassen]

And if you take and lease the charismatic and creative, democratic, with rich political baggage Angela Merkel for the united Union.
Then things "with a creak", but will go.
This is an "offer" from compatriots from Germany.

[credo]

Quote: Johann Klassen

And if you take and lease the charismatic and creative, democratic, with rich political baggage Angela Merkel for the united Union.
Then things "with a creak", but will go.
This is an "offer" from compatriots from Germany.

Good offer.
In Russia, there is a respectful attitude towards Merkel, and although in recent years there have been embarrassments with her on the basis of health, she clearly will not spoil the "mess" (party) even for United Russia.
But let him first rest and improve his health, and then we'll see.

[Alex777]

The reality is completely different, so your diagnosis is wrong.
And if, instead of Mironov, a more recognizable and charismatic leader is chosen from this tripartite alliance in the spring of this year, the number of SR supporters may well increase.

I know perfectly well that they are preparing a replacement for Mironov.
But so far the decision on who it will not be found.
Rogozin's candidacy, discussed last year, did not arouse enthusiasm. So for now we have what we have.
At the same time, pay attention - Mironov "insists" on retaining the name of the structure completely bankrupt under his leadership.
If there was no threat that the spravorassy would fly out of the Duma in the new elections, no one would have bothered to unite.

[Scharnhorst]

Better Sarah Wagenknecht or Schroeder, if you agree! I would vote for the first!

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Scharnhorst

I would vote for the first!

I would also! The aunt is prominent, albeit slightly older.

[Pilot]

Quote: Stirbjorn

Quote: credo

And if, instead of Mironov, a more recognizable and charismatic leader is chosen from this tripartite alliance in the spring of this year, the number of SR supporters may well increase.

Prilepin or what ?! Who could be more recognizable there, besides Mironov?

Mirrramistin!

[Bi-mac]

Unexpectedly!))) And great!))

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: credo

then the number of SR supporters may well increase

So that's what it is designed for. The United Russia rating has already gone into the negative, as they are not trying to raise it. Therefore, a more or less neutral party is urgently needed, which does not insist on changing the system, and under whose wing former edros can get over. Naturally, they will put pressure on patriotism, then Prilepin was invited. But one should not dream of changing the liberal course and nationalizing the main extractive industries.

[credo]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Quote: credo

then the number of SR supporters may well increase

So that's what it is designed for. The United Russia rating has already gone into the negative, as they are not trying to raise it. Therefore, a more or less neutral party is urgently needed, which does not insist on changing the system, and under whose wing former edros can get over. Naturally, they will put pressure on patriotism, then Prilepin was invited. But one should not dream of changing the liberal course and nationalizing the main extractive industries.

Yes, the real move.
Well, who else? The Communist Party of the Russian Federation with the eternal "communist" Zyuganov, whose muttering can only be tolerated by the hearing impaired and piously believing in the reincarnation of the USSR or the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia with a permanent leader, cheeky and groovy Zhirinovsky.
It is clear that now, with the start of the election campaign, the oppositionists will again raise their heads with their mantra about bad Putin, United Russia, Russia, etc., but how many supporters will follow them, this is unlikely, of course, except for the well-motivated and violently hating Putin and EP, therefore the CP move is quite adequate and prudent. Check out its purpose soon.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: credo

with his mantra about bad Putin,

Is he good?

[credo]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Quote: credo

with his mantra about bad Putin,

Is he good?

He does not have to be good, but responsible, consistent, intelligent and decisive, firmly defending the interests of Russia and its citizens, he owes what I wish him.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: credo

consistent

Remind you how many times he has consistently stated that he will not raise the retirement age? But I understand, and there is a hole in the old woman.

Quote: credo

firmly defending the interests of Russia and its citizens

Do you mean by Russia a group of corporations, and by citizens of your friends and colleagues?

[credo]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Quote: credo

consistent

Remind you how many times he has consistently stated that he will not raise the retirement age? But I understand, and there is a hole in the old woman.

Quote: credo

firmly defending the interests of Russia and its citizens

Do you mean by Russia a group of corporations, and by citizens of your friends and colleagues?

With your insight, you do not need to unsubscribe here, but in the show "The Battle of Psychics" to advertise for yourself and make money.

[Ingvar 72]

This is not discernment, this is observation. Even according to Rosstat, the standard of living has fallen, unemployment has risen, inflation has exceeded forecasts, the Ministry of Health has recognized the failure of the health care reform, the degradation of education is visible to everyone, but Forbes reports that the fortune of "friends" has grown.
Do you think that the vision of elementary things is from the field of the paranormal?

[Alex777]

Well yes. Everything is bad with us, but all around us is prosperity. So yes?
And don't say that you are not interested in what is around.
In today's global economy, everything is interconnected. Therefore, it is necessary to compare by giving examples of how things are with others.
How are those against whom the sanctions have been introduced?
Who Lost Oil Revenues?

[2 Level Advisor]

and where is worse? in Angola?

[Alex777]

My friends came from the States. Absolutely.
We lived there for 30 years. In Beverly Hills.
They live and work now in Moscow.
Extremely satisfied. And they say that critics simply do not understand how good it is in Russia.
Their children, who grew up in the United States, moved to Europe. But they also started thinking that they should get ready for Russia.
Their successful Russian friends in the States saw how they settled here and are also starting to think about moving. Especially against the background of the events there. By the way, everyone voted for Trump. Although they understood that he would not be allowed to win.
And they saw BLM not on TV, but in their own lives. 32 daughter of friends of my acquaintances was beaten by black people in the street when she got out of the car. Lies in a coma.

[2 Level Advisor]

Alexander, on the one hand, I agree with your comment, on the other, not at all ..
1. Successful, as you say, acquaintances have moved back from Beverly. smart, wealthy people came, built a business here .. moreover, what is reasonable, possibly due to links with the past in the USA .. Probably moved, for some reason, not to Orenburg, but to Moscow time or St. Petersburg .. Earned as I understand it in the USA, since lived in Beverly .. You know, with brains and money, you can live well in almost any country .. probably even in Angola .. I agree here and I don't even think about arguing ..
2. Imagine the opposite situation: We are talking about the average citizen of the Russian Federation - can he move to Beverly and open a business with his earnings? As you can imagine, no .. I'm talking about this ..
3. As for crime .. well, take a walk in the evening, for example, in the residential areas of V. Saldy .. you will get extreme behavior very likely .. and not even from blacks .. everything is relative .. the number of murders per 1000 people. we have 2 times more ..
Exceptions only prove the rule for an ordinary, average citizen ..

[Alex777]

Hello Nikolai!
My friend is an architect. In Moscow he works in a construction company, he did not create a business. He was given a group of young people and he teaches them, shares his experience in the implementation of projects.
When, after graduation, they moved from Sakhalin to the States, they had no money at all. Friends helped, who appeared after the internship.

Let's imagine the opposite situation: We are talking about the average citizen of the Russian Federation - can he move to Beverly and open a business with his money? As you can imagine, no ..

I did it myself in the early 90s. And I had an IT business both in Russia and in the States. 98 g knocked me down badly. In 2003 he returned completely. In 2007 he did not renew the green card.
For me it was not something special, and my wife wanted to live in the States. She and her daughter stayed in New York. And where I was born, I came in handy there.
In 2014 I traveled to familiar places. One thing I can say, compared to 2003, the United States began to look much worse.

As for crime .. well, take a walk in the evening, for example, in the residential areas of V. Saldy .. you will get extreme behavior very likely .. and not even from blacks .. everything is relative .. the number of murders per 1000 people. we have 2 times more ..

I have not delved into the statistics for 1000 people. But according to friends in Los Angeles, even before the latest events, adventure could be obtained in any area. Things are much worse now. Simply because no one understands when something happens. Worse than our 90s.
Although we can't see it at all from here.

[sniperino]

Quote: Alex777

Everything is bad with us, but all around us is prosperity. So yes?

Yes sir. The task has been set: to collect sour cream here and now at the house, and then and there - to praise, to roll your eyes. Party discipline.

[bayard]

That night, Navalny's new film about Putin's palaces came across on YouTube. At the time of viewing, there were already about 3 million views ... but briskly.
And the reason for the urgent expulsion of this fighter to Russia immediately became clear - they will download.
And download it seriously.
And who, after this (watching the aforementioned film), will say that British intelligence does not know how to work?
He knows how.
He is good at it.
And what is most surprising ... you still have to react to this.
After so many millions of views on the first day.
And the problem is not how many palaces the head has built for himself, but what is the QUALITY of his management during this period (the period of construction of the above-mentioned architectural and design masterpieces).
Yes, even if only made of pure gold with diamonds inlaid ...
Where is the result of the (positive) leadership?
By the state?
Economy?
Real defenses?
What is the level of well-being of citizens?
How has it changed over the above period?
If everything is only a plus - yes, even the golden monuments at every intersection!
Crown emperors for life.

... And so ... the initiatives of some state officials to completely abolish pensions in Russia and "oblige children to pay tax to their parents" ... evokes interesting associations.
And British intelligence plays very well on this.

I would like to see the answer ...

But not with words, refutations and denunciations.
And by deeds.
Real.
Obvious.
Perceptible.
For all .

Otherwise ...
If they wanted it to be like under Nicholas-2 ... so it will be.
British intelligence will be rattled.
As in February 1917
And he will bring it to the "Ipatiev House".
The guys there are cunning.

And after all, last time no one stood up for the king ... no one stood up ...
So think here - whether British intelligence is so skillful ... or ... the king himself is to blame ...
The Church, of course, says that "the People were to blame" ...

And the Army.
But I don't think so ...

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: bayard

And who, after this (watching the aforementioned film), will say that British intelligence does not know how to work?
He knows how.

Then Karaulov had a video that the Samara cop had leaked the data to Navalny about the movement of the FSB officers. So MI 5 and 6 are not to blame for everything.
And on the rest I certainly agree, even if they build palaces from gold / diamonds, if only there was exhaust, development, respect for the country.

[bayard]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Then Karaulov had a video that the Samara cop had leaked the data to Navalny about the movement of the FSB officers. So MI 5 and 6 are not to blame for everything.

Believe me, British intelligence will never play out its role, the wrong level. And the fact that the information was leaked by the Samara cop, or the Omsk / St. Petersburg / Gelendzhik FSB officer ... so it is necessary to show some sources. And it's better when these informants are local.
The question now is what will happen next.
Biden's inauguration did take place, so a new reality is coming for Russia - the reality of a tougher confrontation with the United States and its satellites.
And in this confrontation, China is no longer an ally for us, but perhaps not even a fellow traveler. It was China that helped Biden to seize power and he now has to pay.
At the expense of whom?
And is the current government of the Russian Federation ready for such a configuration of external challenges and threats?
Yes, with such internal ones?
How were the last 7 years used - the period of the already direct Cold War?
Has the economy become more resilient?
Does the defense match external threats?
From serious opponents and enemies?
And not from essentially guerrilla groups in ... Syria, which do not even have the rudiments of air defense?
Did you manage to rally the population in the face of the coming trials?
Who does this power rely on in Russia?
Does he show any concern for the population, apart from digitalization, vaccinations and new taxes?

But her future in the new reality depends on this ...
And the future of the People of Russia.

[Ingvar 72]

Sadly, my train of thought is the same as my predictions.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Sadly, my train of thought is the same as my predictions.

you're just a foreign agent, just like the character you answered ...
you are a Ukrainian Maidan, only in Russia ... you are the one who brings destruction and death ...

[bayard]

Quote: NEOZ

you're just a foreign agent, just like the character you answered ...

Quote: NEOZ

you are a Ukrainian Maidan man,

Member of the Russian resistance and Russian Spring, now a resident of Donetsk, a citizen of Russia and the DPR.
And I know where from here.

[Alex777]

you're just a foreign agent, just like the character you answered ...

Wrong. bayard - our person.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Alex777

You are wrong. bayard is our man.

our man is this:

Quote: Alex777

in this confrontation, China is no longer an ally to us, but perhaps not even a fellow traveler. It was China that helped Biden

will not write !!!!
as well as this:

Quote: Alex777

Does he show any concern for the population, apart from digitalization, vaccinations and new taxes?

although, upon closer examination, it is clear that the standard of living in the Russian Federation is the highest in the CIS, even slightly higher than the Polish one ...

[Alex777]

upon closer examination, it is clear that the standard of living in the Russian Federation is the highest in the CIS, even slightly higher than the Polish one ...

I completely agree with you.
As for the above quotes, people have the right to speculate.
For this we have gathered here. Exchange views, clarify positions.

[NEOZ]

Quote: bayard

And in this confrontation, China is no longer an ally for us, but perhaps not even a fellow traveler.

sweet dream of the Anglo-Saxons ... the Russian Federation against the PRC ... well, well ...

Quote: bayard

How were the last 7 years used - the period of the already direct Cold War?

in full!

Quote: bayard

Has the economy become more resilient?

has become

Quote: bayard

Does the defense match external threats?

Yes

[bayard]

Quote: NEOZ

sweet dream of the Anglo-Saxons ... the Russian Federation against the PRC ... well, well ...
Quote: bayard
How were the last 7 years used - the period of the already direct Cold War?

in full!
Quote: bayard
Has the economy become more resilient?

has become
Quote: bayard
Does the defense match external threats?

Yes

If a person does not have critical thinking, the ability to analyze, lack education or conscience ... he is either a victim or a propaganda tool.
Are you really that blinkered or is this a profession?

[Alex777]

And the fact that the information was leaked by the Samara cop, or the Omsk / St. Petersburg / Gelendzhik FSB officer ... so it is necessary to show some sources. And it's better when these informants are local

Do not doubt. Leaked. All infa in the link:
https://www.vedomosti.ru/society/news/2021/01/19/854593-rbk-politseiskogo-proveryat-na-sliv-dannih-dlya-rassledovaniya-dela-navalnogo

[Alex777]

https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4653655

[Olkhovsky]

And he will bring it to the "Ipatiev House".
The guys there are cunning.

The house is already ready - EBN-Center is Epatievsky house 2.0.

[NI1]

The situation with Navalny is sad for the Kremlin. Yes, while the Kremlin still has the grip, the security forces are coping. But you can already clearly see how this whole car shakes from side to side. They are already acting like blockheads. Aby not to allow anything. But the strength is running out.

Was Navalny returned to improve the situation? Well, he is a citizen of Russia, why shouldn't he come back? If I had stayed in Germany, I would have been a NATO agent at once, and I would have returned to Russia as a sent Cossack. He has no other options, in fact. ))

I also watched his film about the Palace. Good movie. Can. )) Well, thanks to all the "chasers" who faithfully serve the Motherland and do not allow theft, corruption, nepotism and degradation of the country. Well done. Work honestly and conscientiously!

[Alex777]

I also watched his film about the Palace. Good movie. Can. ))

Did you believe it? Why didn't you ask yourself the question of why this palace VVP?

[NI1]

Why not believe it? Is there another person whom the FSB protects so much, arrange a no-fly zone over the palace, a closed zone in the sea? Who is this man who has spent tens of billions on his estate? Can we recognize this rich man? Has he earned everything with his honest labor?

And the point is not only in the palace. The point is all the friends of the tsar, who turned out to be very successful businessmen. True, entire industries were collapsing along the way. But that's a trifle, isn't it? What are worldly joys for us and our children? You need to think about the eternal, about the life of heaven, and not gold and royal chambers.

While some lie on sofas for 4 million rubles, others are trying to survive. It is this potential difference that causes indignation of the masses. Is the reason for revolutions and riots now clear? Or are the current rulers and rulers sure that they have seized their fate by the balls? Alas, everything is much more serious. And you have to pay for your delusions.

[Alex777]

Who is this man who has spent tens of billions on his estate? Can we recognize this rich man? Has he earned everything with his honest labor?

Does Navalny claim that this is a private estate?
You just think with your head!
No private estate will be guarded by the FSB.
No billionaire will build such an estate for himself - it is unrealistic to maintain it. Neither taxes nor personnel!
Nobody will buy it - money wasted. And children cannot pass it on. They will go broke in possession of such a "treasure"! It is obvious?

[NEOZ]

Quote: bayard

Where is the result of the (positive) leadership?

isn't he?
Since 2000, a rigid vertical of power has been built, the bandits of the 90s have been cleansed, the war in Chechnya, Crimea has ended, etc. etc. list successes for a long time (of course, there are mistakes and failures)

Quote: bayard

Economy?

the real sector of the economy (industry) is developing, as well as huge investments are made in infrastructure. trying to raise (revive) the national aviation.

Quote: bayard

What is the level of well-being of citizens?

the highest in the CIS !!!!!!! the level of well-being of citizens is even higher (not much) than in Poland!
an excellent indicator for a country that collapsed 30 years ago!

Quote: bayard

How has it changed over the above period?

from complete poverty of 2000 to prosperous 2020!

Quote: bayard

Real defenses?

as an example: in 2014 alone, the Russian Federation produced 104 fighters (su30 / 34/35).

Quote: bayard

If everything is only a plus - yes, even the golden monuments at every intersection!
Crown emperors for life.

indicate in which area do we fail? and your vision of ways out of failure with an example from world experience. Thank you!

[yuriy55]

Quote: NEOZ

indicate in which area do we fail?

For your comments, people from the department of the person from your avatar would sneer at your body for a long time ...

[NEOZ]

Quote: yuriy55

For your comments, people from the department of the person from your avatar would sneer at your body for a long time ...

why do you forget to put commas?
as you know, the body of Jesus was also mocked for a long time ...

[yuriy55]

Quote: NEOZ

why do you forget to put commas?

There are no introductory words in my sentence, and there is nothing to separate with commas.

[bayard]

Quote: NEOZ

Since 2000, a rigid vertical of power has been built, the bandits of the 90s have been cleansed, the war in Chechnya, Crimea has ended, etc. etc. list successes for a long time (of course, there are mistakes and failures)

These are all the merits of the past years, for which there was gratitude, and a rating to envy everyone, and sincere popular respect.
But this is already in the past.
Alas.

Quote: NEOZ

the real sector of the economy (industry) is developing, as well as huge investments are made in infrastructure. trying to raise (revive) the national aviation.

It is developing so successfully that from 2010 to 2012. stagnation in the economy.
Infrastructure is developing - it is still the habitat of the ruling class. Roads, renovated cities ... but the real sector ... when there are two closed plants for one open plant? There is no GDP growth. It has not been for 10 years already, and what is sometimes shown by growth is just an equilibrium of reports and does not take into account the real level of inflation. Really - the last 7 years there has been a decline and stagnation.
The growth of previous years is mainly due to high prices for hydrocarbons. But the fat years are over, the income from the export of resources has fallen and ... the people have become the "new oil".
Taxes, excise taxes, fees, curtailment of social programs, PENSION REFORM.
And it is the Pension Reform that is the indelible sin of the modern government. To correct which she (the power) will never go.
She already dreams and plans to abolish pensions altogether.
And directly declares its intentions.
This is her brand and the brightest characteristic.

Quote: NEOZ

trying to raise (revive) the national aviation.

And what are the results of these attempts?
What did you manage?
Just don’t talk about experimental machines that will not be put into production.
And even more so about intentions and plans.
All plans have failed.
And all the efforts to implement them resemble the work of a sawmill.
Do you really believe that MS-21 will be put into mass production this year?
And what will it be made of?
If a wing made of domestic carbon fiber has not been tested yet?
On the backlog (for several boards) from Japanese?
And what guise will they certify this year (were they going to)?
And what about imported components, which are up to 50% in this liner, what will they replace, if all (!) Suppliers have already refused to supply us?
Also from the reserve (stock)?
And when their substitutes appear, what, again, to certify?
But there’s no other way.
So what is the crackling about?
What kind of production?
A few more prototypes?
From a prefabricated hodgepodge from warehouses?
The new wing has not yet arrived at the test center. It will take time to test it for strength, fatigue, etc. This is at least 2 years.
So what was that statement?
Lies? .... To save your own image?
There are also some problems with the Superjet, and they will be solved in the best case in a few (my estimate is 5) years.
IL-76MD90A?
Last year not a single board was delivered to the customer !!!
Although they reported that they collected 3 (three).
Debt for the year before last.
But the customer did not accept them.
No one .
Although last year, according to the delivery plans, the plant was supposed to build 6 (six) aircraft + 3 (three) more as a debt for the year before last.
Didn't put a single one.
This year, according to the plans, the delivery of 8 - 12 aircraft (according to the plans of the plant, published) + 6 aircraft (arrears for last year) + 3 aircraft (arrears for the year before last).
Do you think they will pass?
At least 3 pcs. for the one before last?
About Il-112, Il-114, Il-276 ( ), IL-96 (two aircraft have been assembled in Voronezh for many years, but they have already stopped mentioning them), I just keep quiet.
And this is by no means gloating, but rage from frustration and disappointment.
From the "efficiency" by the hands of the leaders of all levels of all these industries.
This is a system of systemic failures.
This is the quality and competence of the leadership.

Quote: NEOZ

Quote: bayard
What is the level of well-being of citizens?

the highest in the CIS !!!!!!! the level of well-being of citizens is even higher (not much) than in Poland!
an excellent indicator for a country that collapsed 30 years ago!

You would still remember 1913.
At one time they liked to compare it with this date.
"Highest" ?
How has it changed over the past 7 years?
How much ... even HOW many times has the purchasing power of pensions and average wages of citizens changed?
And in what direction are these changes?
And I will tell you - 2 - 2,5 times.
Decreased.
That is, the people are ENOUGH.
Do you want to compare the average pension in the Russian Federation and the Baltics?
... impoverished on membership in the European Union?
Everything is relative .
Or do you equate with Ukraine?
If the standard of living of the population has fallen by 7 - 2 times in 2,5 years ... this is HOW characterizes the power?
Paramog?
Or do you think that you can go on the "Crimean" consensus forever?
Euphoria passes ... and withdrawal sets in ...
After the "Crimean Triumph" came shame in the Donbass.
Where are the same people as in the Crimea ... the same RUSSIAN people, as well as in the Crimea, held a referendum ...
And?
Betrayal, conspiracy, shooting of militia commanders ...
And this is against the backdrop of adventures in Syria, Libya, Central Africa, Sudan, etc. ...
Do you really think that the blacks in Africa and the Arabs of the Middle East are more important for Russia than the rejected Russian Territories with a predominantly Russian population?
Do you really think that having US and NATO bases near Belgorod, Voronezh and Rostov is more profitable and more important for Russia than the Russian people and RUSSIAN assets of Little Russia, Novorossiya, Slobozhanshchina ...?
Is this a success for sure?
Are you sure about that?

Quote: NEOZ

as an example: in 2014 alone, the Russian Federation produced 104 fighters (su30 / 34/35).

It was a good year.
And how many refueling planes have Russia produced since then? Aircraft AWACS? Integrated reconnaissance aircraft? Anti-submarine aircraft?
How will these undoubtedly very good aircraft feel in combat without effective combat control?
I ask how in the past was an officer in the combat directorate of an air defense formation?
How will the emergency transfer of troops be carried out in the event of a real threat or a real war?
By BTA aircraft?
And how is the BTA fleet doing with us?
How is HE updated?
I don’t even want to talk about the Fleet - EVERYTHING has failed there.
There are enough excuses and objective reasons.

Quote: NEOZ

and your vision of ways out of failure with an example from world experience. Thank you!

Just four words:
Stop eating !
It's time to WORK.

And in more detail, you would have to write a whole article or a complex program.
And it's time to learn from China and Hong Kong the methods of restoring order in power.
Very effective.
Iosif Vissarionovich would definitely approve.

[yuriy55]

Quote: bayard

And what is most surprising ... you still have to react to this.

And the reaction here should be the same: the appointment of an independent journalistic-parliamentary investigation with the participation of the UK on the facts from the film. Based on the results of these investigations, an unambiguous decision should be made both on the authors of the film and on the persons involved in it.
This is done in countries where anyone can be removed from power and put behind bars regardless of the size of the wallet and merit.
The term for such an investigation should be no more than a month. The powers of the commission are the broadest.

[NEOZ]

Quote: yuriy55

This is done in countries where anyone can be removed from power and put behind bars regardless of the size of the wallet and merit.

list the countries in which this happens, as well as provide examples of such landings.
Thank you!
ps
if you can .....

[NEOZ]

Quote: yuriy55

This is done in countries

what. and could not find countries that would fit your description))))))))))))))))))))))))
ps
Yuri, it's time to be responsible for your words ... not small already ...

[yuriy55]

Quote: NEOZ

Yuri, it's time to be responsible for your words ... not small already ...

You are a dreary user of those who need to serve a spoon with food.
This is done something like this:

On January 14, the U.S. House of Representatives voted to impeach Trump in the wake of the recent riots in Washington. The debate lasted over seven hours. 232 lawmakers voted for impeachment because of incitement to rebellion, against 197. The last vote was the second attempt to remove Trump from office.

Main article: Strauss-Kahn case
Shortly after his speech on May 14, 2011, he was removed from a flight and arrested in New York on charges of sexual harassment of a hotel employee, 32-year-old Guinean-born Nafissatou Diallo, but was then released on $ 1 million bail and transferred under house arrest. It is noteworthy that the attempt to release on bail before his resignation was refused.

Can't you find it yourself with your analytical consideration? Or do you see that if Sarkozy or Trump has SUDDENLY !!! found the palace, then everyone continued to be silent in a rag and unleashed anger on the source of information?
Don't try, I won't answer anymore.

[NEOZ]

Quote: yuriy55

Don't try, I won't answer anymore.

Thank you!
you've already shown a lack of critical thinking ...
no more questions for you ...

[Alex777]

Under the "investigation" they disguised information leakage.

Investigators of the Samara region opened a criminal case under Part 3 of Art. 285 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (abuse of office) against the senior lieutenant of the police station No. 6 in the Samara district of Samara Kirill Chuprov, RBC reports, citing a source familiar with the investigation and a source in the regional department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

According to the investigation, Chuprov "leaked" to an outsider information from the "Search Magistral" database, which allows to find out information about a particular person's travels on trains, airplanes and passenger vehicles, where tickets are purchased with identity documents. Law enforcement officers have access to the database by login and password.

The investigation believes that the information provided to the suspected police officers concerned the movements of persons whom the journalists of Bellingcat, The Insider and CNN described as FSB officers involved in the alleged poisoning of the founder of the Anti-Corruption Foundation (FBK, included by the Russian Ministry of Justice in the register of non-profit organizations performing the function of a foreign agent) Alexey Navalny.

“Their surnames later appeared in materials about the poisoning of Alexei Navalny,” RBC quotes its interlocutor.

[Incvizitor]

What kind of communism is it like "communists" 80 90s the name is one, they only defame it.

[NI1]

Zyuganov can be accused of many things. Even the fact that over the years he became old. )))
But what certainly cannot be accused of him is that he did not change his party card. As many others have done. Even the Chekists. He also preaches the ideals of socialism / communism. He does not curse Stalin, Lenin and Marx. He does not say that it was Lenin who was to blame for everything and that it was he who planted the bomb under the USSR. Is Zyuganov old? Yes. Grumpy? Yes. True to his ideas? Yes.
And about those in power so to speak? No. They swore loyalty to the cause of Lenin, and now they are shaking with the Golden Calf.

[yuriy55]

Quote: credo

Yes, the real move.
Well, who else? The Communist Party of the Russian Federation with the eternal "communist" Zyuganov,

Real move? The real move is voting for the party (movement of N.N. Platoshkin)
LDPR - was created at the suggestion of the KGB of the USSR, as a replacement for the losing trust of the CPSU (I will not name the General Secretary). This is a one-man party. Curses everyone and everything, but votes - as it should. It was thanks to the passivity of the EBN faction that it did not receive a "shock". It is Zhirinovsky who proposes to improve the life of Russians, but in fact votes (the entire faction) for the genocide of the people. With his departure, she will sink into oblivion.
CPRF - initially it was supposed to create a party instead of the CPSU. Surely the gentlemen from the Communist Party decided that the assets and gold of the party would be transferred to them. However - hell. There was an opportunity in 1996 to take power, but, as it turned out, the "gut" of a communist from the Oryol region was thin. Having the opportunities and means, he did not create a single opposition channel (as the Russian Orthodox Church did). His desire for leadership is limited by the framework of the Communist Party and the budget of the Russian Federation. All his words are the usual political demagoguery. The mental development of the collective farm party organizer. Betrays like-minded people. The emergence of competitors in the party asset reacts extremely painfully.
cf. - a purely pro-government party. The purpose of its creation is to select votes from the opponents of United Russia.
Pay attention to the rare "consistency", the unique "unanimity", the deepest knowledge about Navalny's activities:

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With the same diligence and coherence, these pseudo oppositionists voted for the pension reform, for amendments to tax legislation, for amendments to the constitution, and, most importantly, for the size of the living wage for ordinary citizens, for the minimum wage, for the size of their own salaries and a list of benefits and privileges. for extending the terms of office, for articles on the content of the administration of the "guarantor" ...
BUT!!! None of them tried to live at least a month on this minimum wage, no one was outraged by the obvious difference in the provision of workers and officials, not a single one was surprised by the retirement age for Russians, whose slave labor should last (mostly) to the grave.

[NEOZ]

Quote: yuriy55

Pay attention to the rare "consistency", the unique "unanimity", the deepest knowledge about Navalny's activities:

how do you feel about bulk?
voice your point of view on this character!
and we will appreciate ...
ps
you certainly won't do that ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Mironov is a complete "politician", he can even be divided by zero, in spite of everything

[Ingvar 72]

This has long been understood.
How are you, lost one?

[Alexander Romanov]

Hi Igor! It’s okay so far, I haven’t disappeared, I just rarely write with a glass, and I read it all the time. They haven't come up with anything better in VO yet, only the contingent smells

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

I just rarely write with a glass

The main thing is not to get carried away!

[Alexander Romanov]

Work for me, it's hard to get involved

[Ingvar 72]

Bah, are you still working, Far Eastern fan of Odin? Well done! Write in a personal if anything, the proposal for the parcel is still valid!

[kapitan92]

It is assumed that the "Patriots" and Prilepin's party will add votes to the Socialist Revolutionaries to enter the Duma, which will ultimately reduce the share of the Liberal Democratic Party and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.

The main goal of all this "mouse fuss"!
"United ...", said it is necessary, "Fair ....." answered there!
The beds are moving again!

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

All right, the terms would be, otherwise there are some near-zero values.

I would say not addends, but merged.
Long expected.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

All right, the terms would be, otherwise there are some near-zero values.

no, well, the funniest thing is in the article - which will ultimately reduce the share of the Liberal Democratic Party and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation., so they do not intend to take away votes from Edr ?? ... clowns

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Tiksi-3

which will ultimately reduce the share of the LDPR and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation

Their only task, and it's not about the Liberal Democratic Party for sure.

[populist]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Vladimir_2U (Vladimir)
Today, 12: 42

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Quote: Tiksi-3
which will ultimately reduce the share of the LDPR and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation
Their only task, and it's not about the Liberal Democratic Party for sure.

Yes. The main task of "Fair Russia" has always been to take away votes from the Communist Party, and, if possible, to replace them. Now this party is on its way, and it was decided to strengthen it with the help of injections ... something there.

[Alexander Romanov]

To stay in the thought is their only task - the Goal

[NEOZ]

Quote: Tiksi-3

so they do not intend to take away votes from Edr ?? ... clowns

It is possible to take votes away from the EDR only after the nomination of their candidates for top positions.

[fruc]

This is a fight for the votes of a potential electorate.

[the most important]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

All right, the terms would be, otherwise there are some near-zero values.

Three microbes decided to be together ... apparently, just in case, an alternative to the Communist Party is being prepared. But while grandfather Zyu is in power, the Communist Party does not threaten anyone.

[Svarog]

All these idlers need to be chased in the neck .. none of them reflect the opinion of the people .. only budget money is absorbed ... Professional deputies have settled well .. Anti-national laws are adopted with the speed of a copier ..

[Crowe]

The parties will not agree on the name of the new party.

Well, yes, this is so important, such a burning and urgent question for today, because

the parties have already solved almost all the issues

in the country and they had nothing to do.

[Rubi0]

But new faces, new parties, turnover of deputies in the elections, political life is in full swing ... Bread and circuses .. everything is how the people love

[Cron]

Quote: Svarog

All these idlers need to be chased in the neck ... none of them reflect the opinion of the people ... only budget money is absorbed ...

But people vote for them, which means they reflect something. Or the people, in your understanding, is it something else?

[vladimirvn]

Quote: Cron

But people vote for them, which means they reflect something.

When people vote for a party, they see the names of the top five. Like all decent people. And then after the elections, when the number of seats in the Duma was cut for them, the sale of these seats begins to worthy people with big wallets or those who are ready to vote for whatever the party orders. Parasites!

[Cron]

Quote: vladimirvn

When people vote for a party, they see the names of the top five. Like all decent people. And then, when the number of seats in the Duma was cut for them, the sale of these seats begins to worthy people with big wallets or those who are ready to vote for whatever the party orders. Parasites!

And who is to blame for this? Aren't they people who step on the same rake?

or willing to vote for whatever the party orders

Well, it's kind of logical if they come from the party. Or a person who voted for a certain political force should receive a chaotic substance that is not capable of giving a result?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Cron

And who is to blame for this? Aren't they people who step on the same rake?

Yes, people. But the question is, who made them so? Who prevents them from getting out of this state? Try to watch our TV channels impartially. Don't say they are independent.

[Cron]

But the question is, who made them so? Who prevents them from getting out of this state?

Well, I think that people themselves do not allow themselves to get out of this state, do they?

Try to watch our TV channels impartially. Don't say they are independent.

And I glance at all the TV channels from time to time, for general development. And I will tell you with confidence that it does not matter if they are ours or not, they are all not independent and serve someone's interests

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Cron

Well, I think that people themselves do not allow themselves to get out of this state, do they?

You know, before 1917, noblemen, landowners, factory owners, not all of them, of course, but nevertheless, they pointed their fingers at a drunk worker in a ditch, like a peasant drunk in a tavern, and talked about "this unworthy cattle." But the question is, who made them such, who deprived them of access to education, to medicine, who forced them to work 16 hours a day? Do you think they felt guilty? Are you looking at analogies?

[Cron]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

You know, before 1917, noblemen, landowners, factory owners, not all of them, of course, but nevertheless, they pointed their fingers at a drunk worker in a ditch, like a peasant drunk in a tavern, and talked about "this unworthy cattle." But the question is, who made them such, who deprived them of access to education, to medicine, who forced them to work 16 hours a day? Do you think they felt guilty? Are you looking at analogies?

No, I don't. Now no one and no one denied access to education, although the quality, in my personal conviction, has fallen. Moreover, civilization made a huge gift for people in the form of the Internet and provided access to almost any information. Now only your own laziness is a limiter on the path to knowledge.
But instead, many, calling the TV a zombie box, watch the same content now on the Internet, finding themselves opinion leaders already there. Not double-checking anything, not questioning the statements, but only unquestioningly trusting the speaking mouth from the network.
I only realized that people for the most part are lazy creatures, and do not like to strain a lot, but love everything that is chewed, understandable and fast.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Cron

Now only your own laziness is a limiter on the path to knowledge.

Not only laziness, but also lack of time, although laziness, of course, is primary.

Quote: Cron

But instead, many, calling the TV a zombie box, watch the same content now on the Internet, finding themselves opinion leaders already there. Not double-checking anything, not questioning the statements, but only unquestioningly trusting the speaking mouth from the network.

Today, most people cannot build the simplest cause-and-effect relationships, and propaganda actively uses this. They cannot separate the truly important things from the minor ones. Both state and non-state. If you take apart Navalny's last video, you can see what is really important there, these are the first 30 minutes. All these palaces, yachts, casinos, wives and mistresses are unimportant information and will be commented on in the Kremlin (most likely: "this is not mine, but entrepreneur Pupkin's"). And no one will ever comment on the first 30 minutes, because this is generally open information and is easily verified. Something like this.

[Flooding]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Today, most people cannot build the simplest cause-and-effect relationships, and propaganda actively uses this. They cannot separate the truly important things from the minor ones.

This is the normal state of the vast majority of the human race.
Don't demand the impossible from people.
Give at least another hundred thousand years of evolution.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Flood

This is the normal state of the vast majority of the human race.

Yes, it is, but somehow it is wrong, or something. You have to work on yourself, and the state does everything to prevent this from happening. Although, on the other hand, it is difficult to expect something different from the state (any state today).

Quote: Flood

Don't demand the impossible from people.

First of all, we must demand the impossible from ourselves)))))

[Machito]

Quote: Svarog

All these idlers need to be chased in the neck .. none of them reflect the opinion of the people .. only budget money is absorbed ... Professional deputies have settled well .. Anti-national laws are adopted with the speed of a copier ..

Left Party The Left is not in the sense of its political convictions, but in the sense of its quality. All 4 parliamentary parties defend the interests of the rich, the oligarchs and the bureaucrats. There is no party defending the interests of the people in the Duma, and it is not expected.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Svarog

All these idlers need to be chased in the neck ..

and who to call? give your surname! ...

Quote: Svarog

none of them reflect the opinion of the people ..

name those who reflect!

Quote: Svarog

only budget money is absorbed ...

not only ... there are also orders from private structures ...

Quote: Svarog

Professional deputies have settled well ..

Would you say that to Prilepin's eyes?

Quote: Svarog

Anti-popular laws are passed at the speed of a photocopier ..

what laws, list! well, or give examples.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: NEOZ

and who to call? give your surname! ...

Quote: NEOZ

name those who reflect!

If there is no one to call, this does not mean at all that you need to put up with crooks and thieves in power. Minin and Pozharsky somehow appeared of their own accord, precisely in the period of lack of alternatives.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Ingvar 72

precisely in the period of lack of alternatives.

Well, what alternative was missing during this period?
also indicate what alternatives were present before the Time of Troubles and what alternatives appeared after the Time of Troubles.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: NEOZ

and what alternative was missing during this period?

Did you skip history at school?
PS Change your avatar, please, do not paraffin the great man by justifying the authorities, which considers him a bloody tyrant and executioner.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Did you skip history at school?

no.
in history at school and in the university there were only fives ...
History is my favorite subject, by the way!

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: NEOZ

there were only fives ...

Then they should know that in the time of troubles there was no alternative to the absence of legitimate claimants to the royal throne.

Quote: NEOZ

giving advice when not asked is a sign of bad parenting ...

And the use of other people's symbols is a sign of meanness.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Ingvar 72

And the use of other people's symbols is a sign of meanness.

what character? and to whom does it belong? .... what is it about?

[Ingvar 72]

Good to pretend, Beria is on your avatar. Or did you not know that portraits of great people are also symbols?

[NEOZ]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Beria

well, whose symbol is it?

[NEOZ]

Quote: Ingvar 72

there was no alternative to the absence of legitimate claimants to the royal throne.

what do you call a power vacuum?
ps
I can't understand something, why are you drowning?
you want to create a power vacuum in Russia to create the prerequisites for intervention (USA, Japan, China, Turkey, Ukraine, tribalities, Germany, Poland ...)
in the hope that modern Minins and Pozharskys will appear?
and if it does not appear, as it did not appear in 1991, then how?
ps
I draw your attention to the fact that in all the unrest of recent times, the local "Minins with Pozharsky" did not appear ANYWHERE ....

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: NEOZ

in the hope that modern Minins and Pozharskys will appear?

I do not hope, I believe in it. And looking at how the government purposefully and endlessly drowns everyone who loudly expresses their dissatisfaction, I am not ashamed to tell the truth, I am convinced once again that this government must be demolished, by any constitutional means.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Ingvar 72

I do not hope, I believe in it.

state building and management THIS IS NOT AN OBJECT OF FAITH !!!!!!!!
on the Maidan everyone believed too! - did it help them?
ps
he believes ....... and there are also many of you who just believe ...
that's because of people like you (who believe in miracles) and the state is falling apart !!!!! Ukraine as an example for you !!!!!
PPP
now not a single store, not a single outlet, not a single small production is done (opens) WITHOUT A BUSINESS PLAN, and you leave the construction of the state to your faith !!!!!!!
who you are? What education do you have? what meaningful life experience?
ppps
and this person is still writing about some kind of rating ...

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: NEOZ

state building and management THIS IS NOT AN OBJECT OF FAITH !!!!!!!!

With this power, it is a matter of profit.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Change your avatar, please, do not paraffin the great man by justifying the authorities, which considers him a bloody tyrant and executioner.

give advice when asked!
giving advice when not asked is a sign of bad parenting ...
Well, I don't care who thinks whom, I live my mind. but open to constructive dialogue.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Minin and Pozharsky somehow appeared by themselves

I will remind you, and everyone else, that Minin and Pozharsky appeared during a period of anarchy (power vacuum) and the intervention of Poland and Sweden ...

[Incvizitor]

They are like ukrov: drive everyone and come what may.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Incvizitor

They are like ukrov: drive everyone and come what may.

are we really one people)))))))))))

[Incvizitor]

Well, they call themselves Russians, but in Delhi, or enemies of the country (who want to sell the country for the opportunity to wash gayropeyskie toilets) or do not understand that if you want to change the power, it must be changed for something sane and not for anything.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Incvizitor

they call themselves Russians and in Delhi

in fact, these are those who think that with a change of power they will take the places of those who are now with money ...

[Cron]

Quote: Doccor18

The sum does not change from a change in the places of the terms. Sense too ...

So they do not change the sum from the change of places of the terms, but only add votes. It's time to use the brain for its intended purpose

[Pessimist22]

One deputy says to another: - And why do we all hate so much? - And I don’t understand, we don’t do anything at all ...

[kit88]

we don't do anything at all ...

[NEOZ]

Quote: Pessimist22

And I don't understand, we don't do anything at all ...

if you don't see them at work, that doesn't mean they are not doing anything !!!

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: NEOZ

if you don't see them at work, that doesn't mean they are not doing anything !!!

The problem is what we see. Pension reform, degradation of education and health care systems, etc. All their bills have seemingly good goals, but they only lead (!) To infringement of the rights of citizens and worsen their lives. Although, according to the theory of probability, at least sometimes they should get at least something good. Malice is evident.
So maybe it's enough to sing the praises of the authorities?

[NEOZ]

Quote: Ingvar 72

the deterioration of their lives.

define the standard of living (what it means to you).
in my opinion the standard of living of Russians is growing !!! slowly but growing !!!!!

Quote: Ingvar 72

to infringement of the rights of citizens

what rights have you been infringed upon? give examples.

Quote: Ingvar 72

Pension reform

it is inevitable ... you cannot cancel your old age !!!

Quote: Ingvar 72

degradation of education and health systems

good education and medicine are very expensive ... we ourselves destroyed our country 30 years ago, and this is a consequence of the collapse ...

[Ingvar 72]

Wah fellow, there is an explanation for everything! How do you explain your lack of conscience? After all, only an unconscious person, or a traitor to the interests of his people, can justify an explicit policy of "soft" genocide.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Wah fellow, there is an explanation for everything!

school at 4 and 5, two higher educations, managerial experience in the private and public sector make themselves felt ...

Quote: Ingvar 72

How do you explain your lack of conscience?

you bring me to emotions - this is a sign of the absence of facts and arguments, as well as a serious sign of manipulation !!!!!! prove your words with facts (figures), if you can ...

Quote: Ingvar 72

an explicit policy of "soft" genocide

Genocide (from the Greek γένος - clan, tribe and Latin caedo - I kill) is a form of mass violence, which the UN defines as actions committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, any national, ethnic, racial or religious group as such ...
give examples (figures) of popular genocide.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: NEOZ

prove your words with facts (figures), if you can ...

In my memory, you have been given many times both figures and facts of government actions leading to the impoverishment of the people, degradation of culture and language, a decline in the birth rate (despite the declared support), deterioration of medicine, education, and many other "trifles".
Why do you make people repeat themselves? Of course, I understand that the techniques from the Catechism are a workhorse, but the measure should still be.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Ingvar 72

In my memory, you have already been given numbers many times

if the numbers have already been given, then it will not be difficult for you to voice them again!

Quote: Ingvar 72

Why do you make people repeat themselves?

I want people to be responsible for their words and to be able to confirm their conclusions with facts (figures) !!!! I also want critics to offer their own solutions to questions of interest, and also give examples of the successful application of these solutions in other countries.
if this does not happen, then these are just slogans ... empty ...

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: NEOZ

then it will not be difficult for you to voice them again

Raise your correspondence.

Quote: NEOZ

I want people to be responsible for their words and to be able to confirm their conclusions with facts (figures)

And you yourself never (!) Do this.
Once again - you don't need to practice the techniques from the Catechism on me, I know them. Therefore, if you want to refute something, refute it with facts and figures, and not with the requirement to present evidence.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Ingvar 72

on me to practice the techniques from the Catechism, I know them.

but I will not, I will study it somehow.

Quote: Ingvar 72

And you yourself never (!) Do this.

my statements can ALWAYS be supported by facts.

Quote: Ingvar 72

Therefore, if you want to refute something, refute it with facts and figures, and not with the requirement to present evidence.

those. you will throw at the fan, and those who do not agree with you have to prove the opposite?

Russians shot down MH17 - prove it wrong! *
Russians lost 30 thousand paratroopers in Donbas - prove that this is not so! *
Assad used chemical weapons - prove it wrong! *
there is doping in Russia at the state level - prove that it is not so! *
Russia wants to attack NATO - prove it wrong! *
Russia interfered in the American elections - prove it wrong! *
* now it is clear which training manuals you use ...)))))))))))

Quote: Ingvar 72

rather than demanding evidence.

hahahahahahahahaha))))))))))))
it is customary for gentlemen to take their word for it, isn't it? )))))))))) *

I see you are an adherent of Anglo-Saxon behavior !!!!!

everything is clear with you, and who do you imitate ....

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: NEOZ

those. you will throw at the fan, and those who do not agree with you have to prove the opposite?

You know, reputation (not rating) is quite difficult to earn. Having caught me a couple of times of lying and throwing at a fan, you will form the opinion of site visitors about me as a bullshit.
Now the situation is the opposite.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Ingvar 72

you will form the opinion of site visitors about me as a bullshit.

isn't that so? ... you cannot support your point of view with anything ... neither facts nor examples ...

Quote: Ingvar 72

Now the situation is the opposite.

I am not chasing the conjuncture. and I do not intend to adapt to the majority!
ps
Jesus also did not adjust to the conjuncture, for which he was executed ...

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: NEOZ

you cannot support your point of view with anything ... neither facts, nor examples ...

At least splash it in your eyes, all the dew of God! Once again, raise your comments at least six months in advance, and you will find facts, figures, and links that were given to you to your "prove".
Further, according to the rules of dialogue, the burden of refutation lies with the opposing side. But you have never (!) Refuted my statements with facts, but at the same time you are writing a poem about nothing, constantly wagging to the side.
The processor is rather weak, or is it its 30 pieces of silver already fighting off?
This I mean that the analogy with Jesus is unfortunate, his other friend is more suitable.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Pessimist22

And why does everyone hate us so much? -

people remain people ..... just envy ....

[Incvizitor]

Sometimes they accept such things that they would not have done better.

[YOUR]

The current parties are all as one commercial project.

[WIKI]

Quote: YOUR

The current parties are all as one commercial project.

A project, but not a commercial one, but a Kremlin one.

[NEOZ]

Quote: WIKI

and the Kremlin.

what do you want? state department?

[NEOZ]

Quote: YOUR

The current parties are all as one commercial project.

Will you tell Prilepin in the eye?
- "Zakhar, you do everything for the money!"

[YOUR]

I have no personal contact, but you can transfer.

[WIKI]

I'm afraid I won't see anything in his eyes. I watched his interview with one Internet channel, so his gaze immediately went to the side when he asked directly asked questions.

[SERGOL]

That's right

[The popuas]

Yesterday, Mr. Volodin assured us ... we have a multi-party system ... we wanted to spit at him ...

[Machito]

Quote: Popuas

Yesterday, Mr. Volodin assured us ... we have a multi-party system ... we wanted to spit at him ...

Yeah, sharp-pointed, blunt-pointed, left-sided and right-sided. The difference between the parliamentary parties of the Russian Federation is on which side to break a chicken egg.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Popuas

I wanted to spit at him ...

why do you have such a desire?
where is Volodin wrong?

[The popuas]

Glasgi atkroy

[NEOZ]

Quote: Popuas

Glasgi atkroy

understandably....
you cannot be responsible for your actions and control your emotions ...
in principle, like most human individuals with the presence of the XX chromosome pair.

[Paul Siebert]

This passenger, Mironov, was originally a dummy, a Kremlin project to draw off the votes of the communists in the elections. The second pillar of the current government in the Duma after United Russia. It did not work out - the people cannot be fooled for a long time.
"SRs" - nothing, zero ... A bunch of defectors and opportunists ...
Now, when the rating of his "party" tends to zero - Mironov puffs out his cheeks, supposedly unites, bargains with the name ...
This political pygmy cannot be trusted.
He does not unite with anyone. They shy away from him like a leper. Let's wave a pen to Uncle ...
Tired ...

[halpat]

And what about the desman? Is the entire population already protected?

[x.andvlad]

"FAIR PATZARUTU" - Forward!
Eh, politics, politics ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAvNqUmGX4Q&feature=emb_logo

[Piramidon]

Quote: Doccor18

The sum does not change from a change in the places of the terms. Sense too ...

Krylov spoke on this occasion -

And you, friends, no matter how you sit down,
All in musicians do not suit

[businessv]

Quote: Doccor18

The sum does not change from a change in the places of the terms. Sense too ...

So the terms are two of the three new and fresh. Well, at least now we can see exactly who is who Rabinovich. The names are new, the meaning is old and unchanged, you are right!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Doccor18

The sum does not change from a change in the places of the terms. Sense too ...

This is not a question of permutation (change), and there is a certain meaning. As a result of elections, newborn parties can receive a couple of three mandates in the Duma and their vote, in terms of influence on the adoption of certain decisions (laws), will have a weight close to zero. When merged, these mandates will already be in one piggy bank, which increases the chance of party influence. Although, if Edro traditionally takes the majority of mandates according to the 50 + 1 scheme, then no party associations will be able to change the policy of cutting social guarantees in relation to the population of Russia, which, in fact, has been observed for the last three decades. Only a general vote against Edr gives a chance to block the adoption of anti-people laws, and then only if this decision is made by a coalition by all the parties represented in the Duma if they take these 50 + 1 mandates from Edr.

[Alien From]

Ches the word, as the party does not rearrange, zero sense!

[Pereira]

Of the three, only one decent person is Prilepin. The rest are just stuck.

[Alien ...]

Conclusion: after the elections he will be given a knee in the ass ...

[populist]

Quote: Alien ...

Conclusion: after the elections he will be given a knee in the ass ...

Well, they won't give 100%. Prilepin is a Kremlin project. Was it for nothing that they led him for so many years? They may also replace Mironov ... But this is how it goes.

[Alien ...]

That is why they will give it that it’s just a project ... The goal has already been set: to knock out both the Communist Party and the Zhirinovites. Ideally, a 2-party FS ...
They can and replace ... If it becomes publicly and at every step lick the same way ...

[populist]

As many have already written under this article - Mironov "does not pull". To put it mildly. Semigin is generally not suitable for the role of a leader. Prilepin can and will pull. Which I personally doubt. We'll see ... And the "cooks" from the AP will decide. They made all this mess.

[Alien ...]

Therefore, it is still "alive" because it does not pull and licks. Who was there from the SR presidential candidate in 2018? That's it...

[Mouse]

The parties will not agree in any way on the name of the new party

Why philosophize for a long time?
"Patriots of Russia Just Russia - For the truth" ... business ...

[Pereira]

The name will be disputed in EP. What is this? EP is not for the truth?
And so the CP is on the verge of walking. Soon she will be banned in the morodokbook for intolerance.
It's like calling a faction - Good faction versus bad factions.

[Mouse]

factions are left with only frictions ...

[NEOZ]

Quote: Pereira

It's like calling a faction - Good faction versus bad factions.

so this is a processing "for all the good, against all the bad"))))))))))

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Mouse

The parties will not agree in any way on the name of the new party

Why philosophize for a long time?
"Patriots of Russia Just Russia - For the truth" ... business ...

If they don't know what to call it, they should ask the Kremlin. They will be prompted.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Mouse

"Patriots of Russia Just Russia - For the truth".

And in fact it will not be for the truth, but for the cheek! Nobody is going to squeeze out the electorate from EdRa

[Asad]

And you guys do not sit down, you are not fit for the People's Deputies!

[Real Pilot]

And we do not have the term "people's deputy". Deputy of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation, everyone. The word "people's" remained in the distant USSR.

This term is still heard in Ukraine, although the deputies there are openly anti-people .. Maybe elsewhere in the former socialist.

[rocket757]

Well, yes, can I still remember that they are "servants of the people" ???

[novel66]

something about public servants from 89!

[rocket757]

Now, "Uralskiye dumplings", they do not allow themselves this .... they are mature, "smarter"!

[7,62x54]

which will ultimately reduce the share of the LDPR and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation

This is the point of all parties, to defocus the attention of voters, to reduce the share, to clear the way for edros.

[alone]

-Dad, do we have honest politicians?
-No sonny, this is a fantasy!

[NEOZ]

Quote: lonely

-Dad, do we have honest politicians?
-No sonny, this is a fantasy!

which country has honest politicians?

[alone]

Quote: NEOZ

which country has honest politicians?

Where have you seen honest politicians? Honesty and politics are incompatible concepts.

[populist]

Quote: NEOZ

Quote: lonely

-Dad, do we have honest politicians?
-No sonny, this is a fantasy!

which country has honest politicians?

But, for example, Stalin!
All my life I fought for the interests of the people.
And why is he not an honest politician?

[NEOZ]

Quote: populist

All my life I fought for the interests of the people.

Iosif Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili
In 1895, at the age of 15, he joined the underground revolutionary movement.
Secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU (b) - CPSU from February 10, 1934 - October 14, 1952
From 1937 to 1938, the Great Terror (also called Yezhovshchina) raged in the USSR. During this period, the bodies of the NKVD of the USSR convicted 1 and shot 344 people. It ended with the conviction and execution of N.I. Yezhov and his replacement as head of the NKVD, L.P. Beria. According to the so-called "Stalin's death lists" of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) and Stalin personally sanctioned the conviction of 923 people, the overwhelming majority of them were members of administrative structures, including the NKVD and the Red Army (almost all of them were shot). During this period, 681% of the members of the Central Committee of the CPSU (b) were killed. The NKVD organs were subjected to the most severe cleansing.
.......

Quote: populist

All my life I fought for the interests of the people.

from his point of view - YES!
subjective assessment of Stalin in the context of the Soviet people and country is positive.

Quote: populist

And why is he not an honest politician?

Is Joseph Honest? - definitely NO!

[populist]

Have you heard about Kirov's murder?
Kirov was a friend and ally of Stalin. His murder was organized by people with party membership cards and, I think, not a low position in the party. On the topic of the struggle within the CPSU (b) there is an interesting book by the historian Yuri Zhukov "Another Stalin".
If Stalin alone is not enough, then you can add Fidel Castro and Che Guevara. Maybe Antonio Gramsci or Salvador Allende will satisfy you?

P.S. There was another candidate for honest politicians -
Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Although, I think there are enough previous ones.

[NEOZ]

Quote: populist

If Stalin alone is not enough, then you can add

Add whoever you want, the fact is that I do not think that a politician is obliged to be honest !!!
I believe that politics should be judged by the benefits he brought to the people in historical conditions, and not by honesty !!!!
ps
read Machiavelli, everything is described there.

[populist]

Yes, I read Machiavelli and Burlatsky on this topic.
But you argue and defend the opinion that there are no honest politicians. This is a fairly common, erroneous and very harmful opinion. My examples show that there are honest politicians, even with the views of Machiavelli.

[Trapp1st]

In modern realities, the State Duma of the Russian Federation is an attribute of democracy, it will not perform any special functions, there is no other point in it, it just should be, because it should. The parties are the same.

[Cron]

Quote: Trapp1st

In modern realities, the State Duma of the Russian Federation is an attribute of democracy, it will not perform any special functions, there is no longer any meaning in it, it just should be, because it should. The parties are the same.

Yes, absolutely useless nonsense that only affects the life of the whole country.

[Dmitriy444]

Affects what? Pressing buttons? Do you think these elected representatives can make a decision, adopt a law without the consent of the Kremlin? There were no such people left, everyone was taken out to the root.

[Cron]

Quote: Dmitriy444

Affects what? Pressing buttons? Do you think these elected representatives can make a decision, adopt a law without the consent of the Kremlin? There were no such people left, everyone was taken out to the root.

You yourself answer your questions

[Trapp1st]

Do you think these elected representatives can make a decision, adopt a law without the consent of the Kremlin?

It is very good that they cannot, the laws must be written by specialists, each in his own field, and in the Duma there are mainly criminal entrepreneurs and former athletes.

[Trapp1st]

Yes, absolutely useless nonsense that only affects the life of the whole country.

The Duma is not needed to pass laws. Do you think they write the laws? Sorry, but you can hire a monkey for bananas to press the buttons at the behest.

[NDR-791]

... the State Duma of the Russian Federation is an attribute of democracy, it will not perform any special functions,
Strange ... Some kind of attribute, but it costs like an aircraft carrier to build ... And so, yes, with a filthy broom on the way it did not interfere at all.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Trapp1st

it is an attribute of democracy,

is the legislature an attribute of democracy?

Quote: Trapp1st

it will not perform any special functions

writing laws is not a special function?

Quote: Trapp1st

it just has to be because it has to. The parties are the same.

what kind of people give you pluses?

[2 Level Advisor]

for the fact that he does not troll, like some, for example, talking about special functions - what they are, but at the same time pretending that they do not understand who actually controls these functions, but expresses his opinion .. for example, Petrushka also exists. only a question - why?

[Mordvin 3]

Call it a quartet, and that's all. Trio, that is.

[zwlad]

So the "Social Revolutionaries" would be called.

[AlexVas44]

... will add votes to the Social Revolutionaries to enter the Duma, which will ultimately reduce the share of the Liberal Democratic Party and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.

And who else to add in order to subtract EP !?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: AlexVas44

And who else to add in order to subtract EP !?

Organize a party of drunks. These even anti-people laws will not be adopted. There will be little by little in the Duma where the thread in Kamchatka will thump and vote against the adoption of all bad laws, otherwise their people will be beaten.

[tatra]

In reality, in Russia for all 30 years there have been only two parties - the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and the ruling party of the enemies of the Communists, no matter how they change its name.

[apro]

Quote: tatra

In reality, in Russia for all 30 years there have been only two parties - the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and the ruling party of the enemies of the Communists, no matter how they change its name.

Here, the dear Tatra. Disagree. The Communist Party of Russia today is one of the elements of a staged ballet. And completely lies under the rule of the capitalists.

[tatra]

As grandfather Stalin said, I have no other writers for you. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation, no matter how bad it may be, is the only opposition party in Russia. And always on the Internet with every poll, for which party will you vote in the State Duma, the same thing. One part of the users - for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the other - comes running with a senseless "and I am for no one, but there is no one to vote for", and are angry against the Communist Party.

[apro]

Quote: tatra

Communist Party, no matter how bad it is

Take advantage of the merits of Soviet communists, the memory of their great achievements.
The Communist Party has no goal, no methods of building a just society. It recognized private property and is ready to cooperate with the capitalists.

[Trapp1st]

The Communist Party, no matter how bad it is, is the only opposition party in Russia

It is not oppositional, it is populist. At one time, Ziu had the opportunity to occupy the highest post and bring millions to the streets, in place of this he prefers a warm, familiar place, he does not need everything else in figs.

[hydro]

Zyuganov must leave the Communist Party!

[Trapp1st]

Zyuganov must leave the Communist Party!

This will not change anything, we need a radical reform of the State Duma.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: apro

disagree.kprf today is one of the elements of the staged ballet

Have you not noticed that the Communist Party ignores all federal channels? And Uncle Ziu has been saying the right things lately.

[apro]

what does it change.? he has not used 30 years of his activity .. and suddenly grew wiser .. I don’t think to say and do different things.

[Ingvar 72]

I would not swear. Stalin once from a seminarian became a bomber, and then the greatest leader of the country.

[apro]

Quote: Ingvar 72

I would not swear.

IVS Stalin from the very beginning strove to build a just society, even when he was a seminarian and an underground member and the head of the Soviet country.

[populist]

Quote: tatra

In reality, in Russia for all 30 years there have been only two parties - the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and the ruling party of the enemies of the Communists, no matter how they change its name.

I have to argue with you.
In Russia for all 30 years there is only one real party. And this is the Communist Party.
The EP is a screen for masking the ruling elite and the pseudo capitalist system.

[Incvizitor]

The Communist Party of the Russian Federation are the same communists as in the 90s, by the way, they were in the Duma and were the majority in the early 90s, I believe in the communists of Russia much more.

[populist]

Quote: Incvizitor

The Communist Party of the Russian Federation are the same communists as in the 90s, by the way, they were in the Duma and were the majority in the early 90s, I believe in the communists of Russia much more.

You are misinformed. The CPRF has never had a majority in the Duma. The maximum number of CPRF mandates in the Duma was 1995 in 1999-157. The Duma has 450 seats, while a simple majority requires 226 seats. It's easy to check.
As for the "Communists of Russia", they position themselves as real communists on the site of the "publicly accessible group." But all the communists and mini-parties, both existing and extinct, called themselves exactly the same way.
Maybe they write the truth about themselves?

[svp67]

Quote: tatra

In reality, in Russia for all 30 years there have been only two parties - the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and the ruling party of the enemies of the Communists, no matter how they change its name.

Yeah, these are the "communists" who sell seats in the State Duma to millionaires and move them to the president's place ... Well, yes, the very "communists" ...
You haven't really seen the enemies yet. So the "Sorosians" will come to power and, as they have already done in Ukraine, they will close the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, and all of its members will be led through the "lustration" of the "trash can", and even the mordyakh will be stuffed ...

[sipkin2003]

Just patriots for the truth - that's how I gathered everyone together. It is also an option.

[Russ]

Quote: sipkin2003

Just patriots for the truth - that's how I gathered everyone together. It is also an option.

almost guessed ...
Mironov announced the name of the new united party
"Fair Russia - for the truth" there are no patriots there ...

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: sipkin2003

Just patriots for the truth - this is how I gathered everyone together.

In a heap ... they all belong.

[evgen1221]

Though a stuffed animal, even a carcass, but still, take me to the trough.

[sipkin2003]

I wonder how United Russia will be renamed so that the people do not recognize the same people in the new name that the laws against them have been churned out like hot cakes for the third year already?

[Machito]

Third year? And before? There, some Tereshkovs have been wiping their trousers for five decades.

[Mykhalych]

Just patriots of Russia for the truth - vanity has gone (soon there will be a lot of sludge), and the Communist Party of Russia will consolidate with whom ... With the Liberal Democratic Party or with an apple core?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mykhalych

With the Liberal Democratic Party or with an apple core?

The apple core is always rotting. And the Liberal Democratic Party is only one Zhirinovsky on the air, with his charisma.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: tihonmarine

with its charisma.

With insanity, you wanted to say?

[faiver]

How will the lives of ordinary Russians change from this? - No way ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: faiver

How will the lives of ordinary Russians change from this?

You will not vote for "Fair Russia", and two others, but for one that has no name and no platform yet. Pensions, taxes continue to remain unchanged.

[faiver]

never voted for fair Russia

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: faiver

never voted for fair Russia

And I don't even know who to vote for. Some balabolians.

[U-58]

As the Russians vote, so it will be.
If in the kitchens and smoking rooms they fire up the Only Russia, the capitalist ministers and the Glavnag Zateinik, and then go to the elections and vote for them, lamenting: and for whom else? - then a damn thing will not change.
If, according to the incitement of the authorities, to revel in KILOGRAMS of gold and uncovered (but at the same time zero) accounts of a real people's candidate, then, comrades, do not exact. Nothing good shines for you, except for another mythical 76% ..

[your1970]

Quote: U-58

a real people's candidate,

- and he transferred the shares to the Communist Party? !! Oh no ...
Well, at the moment, after the divorce, his wife has condemned half of his shares

[U-58]

What is this nonsense? Why should you transfer shares to someone?
Can we also have panties from stocks - new, undressed - to transfer to someone?))))

[your1970]

Quote: U-58

What is this nonsense? Why should you transfer shares to someone?
Can we also have panties from stocks - new, undressed - to transfer to someone?))))

Then there was no need to go to the oligarch - the candidate from the Communist Party ...
Previously, he owned almost the entire state farm, for ZAO (49 shareholders and all) - now a little more than half ...
So he and legally and practically - billionaire ...
Z. Y. Stalin, having learned about such a candidate from the communists, would have strangled both Ziu and the state farmer

In villages where they know the price of such a closed joint stock company, they did not vote for it. His voices are city dwellers who have no idea how they robbed a village in the 90s

[U-58]

In villages where he is known, the percentage for him was 63% and 69%. And this despite the fact that all day long a string of buses brought up from Moscow "detached" - about 1000 flights.
A link to Comrade Stalin is incorrect, because right now we have Putin, behind whom looms a whole crowd of oligarchs-alligators.
So everything is in the spirit of the times.
And yet, what does the transfer of shares have to do with it? Even if I don't enter

[your1970]

Quote: U-58

In villages where he is known, the percentage for him was 63% and 69%. And this despite the fact that all day long a string of buses brought up from Moscow "detached" - about 1000 flights.

- Moscow region? If yes, then this NOT villages ... and not villagers ...
Otherwise, they would have clearly known the sequence of SPK-OAO-ZAO .. This old scheme of robbing a village from the 90s to concentrate property in the same hands ...
Our regional kurkuli also live next to the hard workers and do not have yachts - however, the life of the rest does not improve from this., The fields are plowed almost in the yards

Quote: U-58

And yet, what does the transfer of shares have to do with it? Even if I don't enter

- everything is simply obscene.
The assets of the CJSC are 5 billion. He owned about 70% of the shares + a little from his wife.
After the divorce and partition, he left a little more than 40% of the shares.
The beauty is that, according to the current legislation, the owner of shares in a CJSC can sell them to absolutely any person without the consent of the other shareholders. There were many shareholders in the OJSC, there it was necessary to sell shares to them, without their consent, little could be done ...
His wife, having received her 30%, can sell it at any time to anyone, even Trump ...
Then there is a fork - if the divorce is fictitious, then this is just a withdrawal of funds, the CJSC will be forced to buy these shares at any price.
If the divorce is real, then tomorrow the wife can sell the shares she owns and her half of the household.

In our district, as many as 6% voted for him, almost 11% voted for the Liberal Democratic Party, and even more ...

[Mountain shooter]

And you friends, do not sit down ...

[Alien ...]

This will not help the lower harem ... Moreover, it will have to endure until Prilepin's election ...
... zs: Vanguems - Prilepin will get sick, or not?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Alien ...

Vanguyem - Prilepin will get sick, or not?

Yes, I think so.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Yes, I think so.

Or already.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Or already.

Most probably. He started to get impudent at Zakharchenko's, and when he came from there, the first thing he did was to run to Edichka Limonov. And a former colleague asked to join him in the battalion. I didn't take it. He shot himself from hopelessness.

[tihonmarine]

The parties will not agree on the name of the new party. The main version of the new name - "Fair Russia - Patriots - For the truth"

These are not parties, but associations. Any party must have a platform.

[rocket757]

The question is correct! Who are you, what is your platform, program ??? What are your goals, personnel?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

Who are you, what is your platform, program?

One talking shop, and the number of seats in the State Duma.

[rocket757]

Well, yes, as places ... they get, they immediately forget that they are, in fact, SERVANTS OF THE PEOPLE!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

SERVANTS OF THE PEOPLE!

No, it looks more like "Quarter-95".

[rocket757]

Everyone can / should have their own "circus" .... "It is high time to change clowns! Because we are tired of such" fun ".

[silverwolf88]

and you friends, how do you not sit down ... all are not suitable for deputies ... the next near-political games
we must be aware of ... that a certain party that has a program and tasks of building socialism / communism (and therefore the best for the Country and the people) is not even visible on the horizon ... apparently, such an idea is not demanded by society so that it can form directly into the Party. .. and who can be the driving force ... the proletariat (the one who has nothing to lose) is no longer ... stable and well fed ... all the revolutions of recent years have been happening only "from above" ... in the form of a conflict between the ruling "elites" .. ...

[your1970]

Quote: silberwolf88

society is not in demand for such an idea so that it can be directly formed into the Party ... and who can be the driving force ... the proletariat (the one who has nothing to lose) no longer exists ... stable and full

That is, there is no revolutionary situation with the country? Not so bad as some citizens moan?

[rocket757]

Fair Russia unites with other parties and changes its name

Bundle .... but why ???

[Igor Polovodov]

And the communists of Russia and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation are not going to merge together?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Igor Polovodov

And the communists of Russia and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation are not going to merge together?

Porthweli will not be divided, as always.

[populist]

Quote: tihonmarine

Porthweli will not be divided, as always.

What are “portfolios?” This is what they usually say about ministerial portfolios. But the Duma is not a government.
By the way, the Communist Party always goes to reasonable alliances. So in the 90s the Communist Party of the Russian Federation was blocked with the APR (agrarian party), and in the XNUMXs with the RCWP Tyulkin and Tyulkin was elected to the Duma on the list of the Communist Party. Maybe you have forgotten these facts? Much time has passed.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: populist

What are “portfolios?” This is what they usually say about ministerial portfolios. But the Duma is not a government.

There are briefcases always and everywhere, everything just depends on the thickness. There are many Duma factions and unions in the Duma, where there is no responsibility in comparison with the minister, and the portfolio is thicker.

[Machito]

Quote: Igor Polovodov

And the communists of Russia and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation are not going to merge together?

The Communist Party of the Russian Federation will not share its place at the trough with anyone.

[prior]

From the fact that Prilepin cleave to "Fair Russia", justice will not be added.
Another "prostitute with her mouth" will stick to the state trough.

[APASUS]

The most interesting thing is who will become the leader of the new party. If it is Sergey Mironov, then the new entity is not viable as a party.

[trophy]

As you guys do not sit down ....... Everything is according to the classics.

[Knell wardenheart]

Call Bogdanov, he is a master at sculpting all kinds of political homunculi.

[starley]

The Hero of Russia Kirienko is responsible for the formation of the composition of the State Duma -
as he decides, so they will name, how many places he assigns to whom, so many will be

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: starley

The Hero of Russia Kirienko is responsible for the formation of the composition of the State Duma -
as he decides, so they will name, how many places he assigns to whom, so many will be

so there were rumors that the administration did not see a place for Fair Russia in the new Duma. Instead, there will be "New People". So, you see, Mironov ran to save his brainchild, so that he could stay at the feeding trough at least for another convocation.

[kriten]

Until Mironov is kicked out, nothing will shine for the joint venture or the parties.

[Owl]

By uniting with the "Kremlin remakes" it has confirmed its "under the Kremlin" character.

[nnm]

Which means - elections are coming soon. Immediately began to mimic !!!

[starley]

so they have not done anything except mimicry yet.
In general, in a properly organized world, in each niche of creatures there are three categories: producers, consumers, utilizers - the liberal power is the power of utilizers, dung beetles - what they have coached into their holes will give the right shoots in due time. There is no need to rush the normal course of things.

[From Tomsk]

The Kremlin Six are playing independent parties. NOBODY believes these stinkers. It's like taking and mixing a few piles of rams and waiting for a candy bar.

[Graz]

for Mironov at one time I had the hope that the EP would make real competition. but he completely fell under the rule

[2 Level Advisor]

was there any hope for this Petrograd from the team? Maxim, well, you give ..

[tralflot1832]

The last elections to the Duma, the SR gained 5,1%, breaking the threshold of 0.1% by 5%. Hence all these dances with unification.

[aleks700]

Eh, Zakhar. Do not stem you. Don't stem.

[Pilot]

Well, he wants to be a fly, uniting with a ram before the general cleaning of the pigsty, what can you do. Myopia or dullness h.z. The company also has a clown Okhlobystin, and such people serve any government, so there may be different versions ..

[voronin]

It is assumed that the "Patriots" and Prilepin's party will add votes to the Socialist Revolutionaries to enter the Duma

And the meaning will be from them in the State Duma? And the State Duma itself is under the president.

[Lycan]

Maybe this is not very "tightly", but I consider it my duty to remind that the "just people" are "smeared" with participation in "Bolotnaya", wearing white ribbons together with all sorts of "unreliable and anti-state elements." This is, nevertheless, an argument leading to certain conclusions, and not just a "barbecue party".

[Lord of the Sith]

All the ghouls in one herd. And then forbid to damn granny)))

[U-58]

Once, Mironov declared at a rally in Perm that the Socialist-Revolutionaries and Communists were doomed to merge parties.
And now it is blocked with others.
And even then, his election rating is awful.

[Reklastik]

add to the SRs

- what else, in the ass, "Social Revolutionaries" ... Found an abbreviation ...

[samarin1969]

The well-groomed state media Prilepin is "betrothed" to a "systemic" "oppositionist" ... It's just a political optimization. In the coming era of Mishustin, everything and everyone is "optimized": "institutions", the defense program, education. The "jelly shores" of the political "frontmen" have sharply dried up.

[vmo]

These At least something, and Mironov is a complete 0, sorry for Prilepin's party will dissolve and that's it.

[TANKISTONE]

Eh, there is no M.N. Zadornov (He rest in peace!), He would clearly formulate the name of the triple alliance!

[Alien ...]

To me, too, binomial Newton ... "Stickers of Russia". The very thing.

[businessv]

[quoteIt is assumed that the Patriots and Prilepin's party will add votes to the Socialist Revolutionaries to enter the Duma, which will ultimately reduce the share of the Liberal Democratic Party and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. [/ quote] .... and nothing will change in the life of the country.

[Diviz]

We decided to hide behind each other.

[faterdom]

In vain. By itself, Prilepin's party had a certain meaning and interest, but here the old trick is being pushed to us, as it was with Rogozin's Rodina party.
The point is to pull back the protest voices from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, and shove them under the "opposition" Mironov, who utilizes them in his "cauldron" where all sorts of dubious personalities hang out like that Central Committee granddaughter in jeans that for 30 lectures in Skolkovo was mumbling as much 30 minutes. Or all sorts of Voronenkovs with the Maksakovs. Although, maybe the latter were from the EP - I do not distinguish them from the SR ...
So, in vain, Zakhar, oh in vain!
By yourself, you are Zakhar, you have a respected ideologist Starikov, at least everything is clear, positions are more or less clear ... And SR is a cloud in his pants, the fruits of Surkov's gloomy fabrications on domestic politics.

[your1970]

Quote: faterdom

So, in vain, Zakhar, oh in vain!
By yourself, you are Zakhar, you have a respected ideologist Starikov, at least everything is clear, positions are more or less clear ..

And what? Just to get into the Duma, you need 5% .... Well, 5,3% will vote for them and? Administrative resources will vote for United Russia, their opponents for the Communist Party, against all technicians for the Liberal Democratic Party ... There, even theoretically, he cannot get into the State Duma ...

[Alien ...]

Perhaps there was an offer that could not be refused. For example: are you with Mironov or Platoshkin? What would you choose?

[Keer]

Real patriots.
Russia.

[Jaromir]

Fair Russia unites with other parties and changes its name

They should change their name to Pro-government opposition

[FRoman1984]

No matter how this party is called and whoever it is united with - this was, is and will be a project of the presidential administration. The main goal of its creation was to take votes away from the Communist Party by creating a similar program, spreading rhetoric close to the communists.
But in the end and reality, all this is a cheap political circus with paid political prostitutes.

[Martian]

Aaaaaaaa !!!! Where is grandfather Krylov? He long ago described this confusion in the Duma with a fable about a quartet. == "And you friends, how can you not sit down, you are not suitable for musicians!" == There is NOT a single party in the Duma, and even a deputy - who would be crystal-clear and work for state and people of Russia. All of them are there - for the sake of personal gain and no matter how they are called - they are mongrels of the ruling elite, they will never go against and the country with them only degrades and falls apart. I remember how Mironov jumped out of his pants just to stay in the Duma and was ready to lie under anyone. He is not an opposition, not a statesman, not a patriot - an ordinary Zaputin troll ... Well, grandfather Zyu is not a communist at all and never was ... As for the Liberal Democratic Party or this terrible and terrible United Russia, it is better not to remember.

[Irbenwolf]

All the same, according to Marx, these “leftists”: “will serve the interests of the ruling class.”

[Boromir1941]

it would be useful

[faterdom]

Quote: your1970

And what? Just to get into the Duma, you need 5% .... Well, 5,3% will vote for them and? Administrative resources will vote for United Russia, their opponents for the Communist Party, against all technicians for the Liberal Democratic Party ... There, even theoretically, he cannot get into the State Duma ...

It’s not necessary to count schedules in offices, but to break, if you’re right, to get on with business...
Who believed in Trump's victory in 16? And he believed it himself! Instead of listening to accountants and political scientists.
Otherwise, all this dregs... administrative resources - Bidon had to completely cheat with Pelosia, and this will not work for free and unnoticed - it will definitely come back to haunt you.

[anclevalico]

And you, friends, do not sit down ...