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Nanoachievements of Anatoly Chubais's empire. Failure at public expense

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Photo: Mark Sery, rosnano.com


Billions, billions and more billions


The most shocking thing about Rusnano's financial statements is the cosmic sums spent on applied projects. In any investment structure, cash flows should be invested in profitable stories... Otherwise, the structure ceases to live. But in the case of Russian state corporations, to which Rusnano belongs, this is far from the rule.

In 2015, the Accounts Chamber checked the spending of Rusnano and was horrified. 50 billion rubles or 37,3% of state money was invested in unprofitable projects! And this, let us recall, is the rubles almost six years ago, the liquidity of which was significantly higher than the current Russian currency. In total, out of 16 investment projects executed in 2015, eight turned out to be unprofitable, and the Accounts Chamber classified twenty-one more as crisis ones.


Photo: Svetlana Lebedeva

Lillputian Systems, in which the state, represented by Rusnano, invested at least 800 million rubles, is in the top of the failed projects "lighter-charging" for electronic gadgets.

The final "exhaust" was ridiculous in this case, 21,3 million. What is this breakthrough technology startup, for which nearly a billion has been spared?

The project was launched back in 2012 and is a pocket fuel gas-to-electricity converter. As the website rusnanonet.ru says:

“The device works on replaceable butane cartridges. One such cartridge the size of a lighter is enough to fully charge a smartphone battery 10 to 14 times.

The device uses the company's Silicon Power Cell ™ technology, based on advances in nanotechnology, including solid oxide fuel cells, microelectromechanical devices. Device cartridges are safe, easy to use, and inexpensive.

The product has already been approved for transportation and use on domestic and international flights. "

As is clear from the release, nothing new has been created at Rusnano.

They just invested in foreign technology from Lilliputian Systems, Inc. and tried to adapt it for the Russian market. The money was wasted, we do not see miracle gas batteries on store shelves, and Rusnano does not even have the courage to admit its mistakes - on the mentioned site rusnanonet.ru, the charger is still considered an unfinished project.

The projects Galileo and Plastic Logic were implemented for Rusnano with approximately the same share of unprofitableness (about 50%).

In the first case, domestic nanoengineers or nanomanagers attracted Italians to create RFID tags for radio frequency identification (Radio Frequency Identification). The easiest way to find this technology is in bookstores. Often, sellers on the pages of publications glue thin RFID transponders, which do not allow silently and free of charge taking the book out of the store.

Rusnano has invested 1,72 billion rubles in this project, of which only 852 million have returned! The main question - from what side is nanotechnology in general here? A nanometer is one billionth of a meter, and RFID technology is based on micrometers, which is one millionth of a meter. Such a billion-dollar waste would be more suitable for the hypothetical Rosmikro.

Or take Plastic Logic, which cost Russian taxpayers 9,4 billion rubles.

Anatoly Chubais in 2011 showed Prime Minister Vladimir Putin a prototype of a tablet, which he threatened to supply every student in the country. Plastic Logic designed flexible EPD screens and part of the rig for this gadget. The project was eventually closed. Due to the lack of sales and demand markets, having managed to return no more than 4,3 billion rubles.

Effective managers are ineffective


Anatoly Chubais recently, in commemoration of his twelve-year term (9 years at Rusnano and 3 years before that at the Russian Corporation of Nanotechnologies), recorded a video for his colleagues, in which, in particular, he summed up:

“We have conscientiously fulfilled the mission that we have taken upon ourselves.

Yes, of course we were wrong. Yes, of course, something didn't work out.

But there is no doubt that the nanotechnology industry has been created in Russia. "

Has the nanotechnology industry been created as a result, if among the successful projects of this corporation there is only the production of heat-insulating foam concrete from cullet and high-strength lightweight concrete?

And again the question - why on earth are purely construction projects suddenly interested in Rusnano? The secret of this alignment lies in two reasons.


First of all, in the hype around the term "nano" itself.

Fifteen years ago, the whole world was excited by the engineering prospects of new technologies that promise unprecedented materials with unprecedented properties. The Russian leadership was also impressed - in 2007, Vladimir Putin declared nanotechnology to be one of the priority areas in Russian science and technology.

Even the term “nano-containing” products has appeared. It was trendy and sold well. It was enough to write the magic word "nano" on the packaging and you can safely raise the price for the consumer.

In general, nanotechnology turned out to be a real klondike for marketing. For example, the notorious nano-additives for gasoline in the overwhelming majority of cases do not have any significant effect for the motorist, but they significantly increase the manufacturer's profit.

By the way, such nano-containing products for petroleum products in Russia occupied at different times from 41 to 73% of the entire industry, which, according to Chubais, was created in Russia.

The science-intensive part of nanotechnology - electronics and semiconductor industry, the industry of new materials and pharmaceuticals in our country are practically undeveloped. Unfortunately,

"Innovative and unparalleled in the world"

nano-containing products are only copies of foreign solutions, or modernized versions.

Where, after all, are Russian competitors to Intel and AMD processors?

Rare Russian companies engaged in nanoproduction receive scanty profits, and sometimes even a loss, partially compensated by state programs. The costs of research and development work are vanishingly small, which indicates that manufacturers are not interested in further development of the direction.

Private Russian capital is not at all ready to invest in nanoproduction. Businessmen are well aware that the artificially inflated fashion for the Russian "nano" is very short-lived and financially doomed.

The second reason why it was not possible to achieve a breakthrough was the very essence of Rusnano.

This is a state corporation that receives funding from the budget. With the right level of management motivation, cash flow can be inexhaustible. In total, since 2007, about 140 billion rubles have been allocated for Russian nanotechnology, which Rusnano returned to the budget in 2019.

On paper, everything is clear - as much as they took, they returned as much, and even created a new industry. In fact, managers were returning debts in rubles, which have fallen in price by more than two times since 2007. It is easy to calculate how much the games with nanometers cost Russia.

The situation when decision-making managers do not risk their bonuses and privileges creates conditions for squandering budget money. According to the publication profile.ru, for the failed projects described above, managers still received awards in 2015 for 5,5 million rubles. Why try if you don't risk anything and if something happens, the state budget will cover the losses?

Downward movement


On December 4, 2020, Anatoly Chubais was appointed the president's special representative for relations with international organizations.

After so many successful, as Chubais himself believes, years of work in a technology corporation, the 65-year-old manager is sent to an insignificant position. Are there any more weighty arguments against the actual failure of the Rusnano project?


Source: rosnano.com

Unfortunately, the example of a nanotechnology corporation (and its boss) is not unique in Russia.

The lack of clear development guidelines and the presence of incompetent managers exacerbate Russia's technological backwardness.

In 2007, they rushed to raise nanotechnology, and in 2020 they unexpectedly decided to create a "National Genetic Database". Nobody thinks about the fact that in neither case in Russia there is any demand for such products. And our, at best, secondary goods are not particularly ready to buy abroad. Despite the low rate of the national Russian currency.

Technologies in Russia were largely kept on the groundwork of 30-40 years ago. Roscosmos is gradually destroying the gigantic foundation of the Soviet space school, step by step giving priority to the United States, China and Europe. Perhaps, only Rosatom is so far ready to create global competition in the market, while Rostec is ready to create certain areas of its own activity.

Truly modern technological innovations and scientific breakthroughs in Russia can be counted on the fingers of one hand. The PD-14 family of aircraft engines, the synthesis of the chemical element Oganesson and, of course, the world's first vaccine against COVID-19 come to mind.

And in this regard, the announcement of 2021 as the year of science and technology looks at least an ironic decision.

But that's another story.
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  1. Svarog
    Svarog 21 January 2021 15: 04
    +55
    I get the feeling, after the Chubais, Kovalchuks and Navalny's investigations ... that if we didn't have so many thieves, we would live no worse than the most advanced Europeans.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 21 January 2021 15: 23
      +12
      Quote: Svarog
      I get the feeling, after the Chubais, Kovalchuks and Navalny's investigations ... that if we didn't have so many thieves, we would live no worse than the most advanced Europeans.

    2. mark1
      mark1 21 January 2021 15: 27
      +13
      Well it's a national feature with roots and branches
      "At one time, the famous writer Karamzin said:" If you want to express in one word what is happening in Russia, you should say: they are stealing. "

      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 21 January 2021 15: 45
        +4
        Karamzin
        or Saltykov-Shchedrin, or maybe Shurik Rosenbaum
        1. mark1
          mark1 21 January 2021 15: 47
          +2
          Maybe - but then ...
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 21 January 2021 18: 14
          +14
          Quote: Gardamir
          Karamzin
          or Saltykov-Shchedrin, or maybe Shurik Rosenbaum

          And yet this is Saltykov-Shchedrin. - "If I fall asleep and wake up in 100 years and they ask me - "What is happening in Russia now?", I will answer - "They drink and steal"
          Another of his statements fits the situation with Rusnano in the best way - "The Russian government must keep its people in a state of amazement" yes
      2. YOUR
        YOUR 21 January 2021 16: 13
        +23
        But they kept him for so many years in the grain position. And now they have transferred to less bread, but still - from December 4, 2020 - the special presidential representative for relations with international organizations to achieve sustainable development goals.
        No responsibility is assumed.
        Untouchable.
        1. astepanov
          astepanov 21 January 2021 17: 45
          +9
          It seems to me that the author is burning with righteous anger (which is quite understandable), but not very well versed in the topic. At least this:
          Truly modern technological innovations and scientific breakthroughs in Russia can be counted on the fingers of one hand. The PD-14 family of aircraft engines, the synthesis of the chemical element Oganesson and, of course, the world's first vaccine against COVID-19 come to mind.

          Oganesson's synthesis (by the way, why with a capital letter? The names of elements are written with a lowercase letter) does not contain either technological or commercial novelty. This is a scientific achievement, and no one will ever pick up this element or build it into any device. The new vaccine was also made using rather traditional methods, no one has created a new technology. Technology takes decades. This is the most important product, manufactured using ready-made technological equipment and in accordance with traditional regulations.
          We have had real breakthroughs in recent years - for example, the creation of the Radioastron and Spektr-RG devices, the heavy particle accelerator, new military equipment, small-sized reactors, the magnificent work of Artyom Oganov, pulling the "Nobel Prize". The author seems to have not heard of them.
          I also strongly dislike Chubais, but still I would venture to say a few words to justify him. The venture capital business is extremely risky, and the 50% exhaust is very good. Further, the development of new technology always requires many years. An example is Faraday's work on electricity: a hundred years between inception and practical use. Chubais is just a pusher, just as ignorant of technology as Rogozin, but in his position even a genius would not have done much more. He was put on top of a ready-made structure, without decent personnel, without a smart strategy. The main damage that Rusnano has inflicted is not losses at all, but the fact that the money that could have got into university laboratories, industry and academic research institutes, fell into deliberate ineptitude. But Rusnano was not created by Chubais, and not by the aforementioned Dmitry Anatolyich. That's who you need to make a claim. And then there is Skolkovo - the same abscess as Rusnano, no matter how worse.
          1. zenion
            zenion 21 January 2021 21: 16
            -2
            Fine. They created a car that can be driven and they say - make it better, upgrade it. I couldn't. So apparently the English king summoned Newton and said create the law of gravitation. For example, ten years have passed and Newton would have declared - the apples that fell on the head were not the same system, but everything falls down. Even what they stole, the Chinese would have done, but the specialists under Chubais' command could not.
          2. your1970
            your1970 23 January 2021 10: 57
            -3
            And everyone also forgot, that during the USSR there was a mountain of scientific research institutes, many of which nothing were not released into mass production, but they lived comfortably and happily ... And they closed them quite often - "for lack of result"
            But here's the Trouble - They created what is now called "Soviet Zasel"
            1. astepanov
              astepanov 23 January 2021 14: 14
              +4
              Quote: your1970
              And everyone also forgot that during the Soviet era there was a mountain of research institutes, many of which did not release anything into mass production, but lived comfortably and happily ... And they closed them quite often - "for lack of result"
              Honorable, research institutes are not obliged to release something into mass production, they are engaged in research and (if this is a technical research institute) in the development of technologies. At best, they produce small-scale products. If not in the subject, then why shake the air?
              1. your1970
                your1970 23 January 2021 15: 37
                -2
                Quote: astepanov
                Research institutes are not obliged to release something into mass production, they are engaged in research and (if this research institute is of a technical profile) technology development... At best, they produce small-scale production.

                Rusnano worked in the same way - like the Soviet research institutes. Lead development ...
                Or "is it different" ?!
                1. astepanov
                  astepanov 23 January 2021 17: 16
                  0
                  This is something else. There were no structures similar to Rusnano in the USSR. I don't understand what you want to say. Do you know the science from the inside? Have you ever worked in a research institute? Did you carry out scientific research or organize it? If not, then you cannot say anything intelligible about this. And you don't need to.
                  1. your1970
                    your1970 23 January 2021 20: 13
                    +1
                    Quote: astepanov
                    Do you know the science from the inside? Have you ever worked in a research institute?

                    Joint Institute for Nuclear Research (Dubna), Laboratory of Nuclear Reactions.
                    Any questions?!
                    1. astepanov
                      astepanov 23 January 2021 21: 55
                      +4
                      There is a question. How, working at JINR, did you manage not to understand the difference between the Scientific Research Institute and Rusnano? How did you manage not to know that Rusnano has never carried out its own developments, but was engaged in coordination and co-financing of work with external contractors? That Rusnano is not a scientific or industrial institution, but, in essence, a state investment fund and a feeding trough for Chubais and his team? Something I doubt that you really work in Dubna. Maybe once upon a time?
                      1. your1970
                        your1970 24 January 2021 00: 47
                        0
                        you asked a question - I answered
                        Quote: astepanov
                        Do you know the science from the inside? Worked once upon a time at research institutes?

                        Quote: your1970
                        Joint Institute for Nuclear Research (Dubna),

                        if you do not understand the answers - to your questions
                      2. clerk
                        clerk 27 January 2021 11: 03
                        +2
                        Rusnano is a large official photocopier box (if anyone remembers such a meme from the 1996 elections) and Chubais is looking after it. For a relatively small percentage. And if he is still alive and not in prison, then he looked competently and did not rattle. That is, well done. And all this screaming about research efficiency is just excess foam.
              2. vlad106
                vlad106 24 January 2021 15: 36
                +3
                climbed on the neck of the Russian people and dangled his legs.
                parasitism for the state account
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        2. Sahalinets
          Sahalinets 22 January 2021 05: 52
          +13
          Well Duc it is he who has attached Putin in Moscow, after the comrade has flown in St. Petersburg with Sobchak.
      3. Alien From
        Alien From 21 January 2021 17: 24
        +6
        The wall of the red fox is tired of waiting!
    3. 7,62h54
      7,62h54 21 January 2021 15: 29
      +16
      Stories about Rusnano are no longer news. This is an attempt to distract from the movie about the palace. The main character just perked up, again struggling with the prices of macaros. I would not be surprised if today or tomorrow it announces payments for children or pensioners.
      1. vik669
        vik669 21 January 2021 16: 06
        -5
        The movie appeared when a petty thief but a decent bastard upon arrival from his grandmother was taken for a "Faberge" but the number of views is so watched to see and not just nits which are more than enough!
        1. 7,62h54
          7,62h54 21 January 2021 16: 22
          +14
          Which do you like better, a pole, or a mud room?
      2. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 22 January 2021 09: 59
        +4
        Quote: 7,62x54
        This is an attempt to distract from the movie about the palace.

        having palaces they know how to have Russia and Us laughing Even if this is not Putin's palace, it's still a shame and Putin from this side has something to do with it
    4. Machito
      Machito 21 January 2021 15: 34
      +15
      Quote: Svarog
      I get the feeling, after the Chubais, Kovalchuks and Navalny's investigations ... that if we didn't have so many thieves, we would live no worse than the most advanced Europeans.

      If my memory serves me, it was reported on TV long ago that Russia had become the sixth economy in the world. While the population is not the most numerous among other countries, the standard of living of citizens of the sixth economy is extremely low, which indicates a monstrously unfair distribution of GDP among different segments of the population.
      1. Crowe
        Crowe 21 January 2021 15: 45
        +21
        Quote: Bearded
        testifies to the monstrously unfair distribution of GDP among different segments of the population.

        Exactly so. Otherwise, our people eat cabbage, and officials corrupt with oligarchs meat, and all together they get stuffed cabbage. And the difference in the standard of living of the majority of the population and the rich is not visible to the blind.
        if we did not have so many thieves, we would live no worse than the most advanced Europeans.

        If only ... I think that they lived better than many Europeans, who have neither oil, nor gas, nor forests, nor minerals in such quantities as we have and, having been born in their Europe, did not have, only income from this national heritage by no means do not belong to the people, they get crumbs from the master's table ..
    5. Doccor18
      Doccor18 21 January 2021 16: 22
      +13
      Quote: Svarog
      I get the feeling ... that if we didn't have so many thieves, we would live no worse than the most advanced Europeans.

      We would live better!
      Since the Europeans have only a head on their shoulders, while the Russians, besides their heads, also have "gold pieces under their feet" everywhere ...

      Rusnano invested 1,72 billion rubles in this project, of which only 852 million returned! ..... costing Russian taxpayers 9,4 billion rubles.

      Here many argue that the country simply does not have the funds for the Battle Fleet .. It will bankrupt the country ... and so on ...
      And for all these "nano-projects" funds are found, and in abundance ...
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 21 January 2021 17: 15
        -17%
        One destroyer costs under 100 billion rubles - an aircraft carrier under a trillion with all the necessary nuclear submarines of 30-40 billion now the question is whether a large fleet can be built for 140 billion that Rusnano has allocated since 2007 - no answer is required.
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 21 January 2021 17: 43
          +9
          Quote: Vadim237
          One destroyer costs under 100 billion rubles - an aircraft carrier under a trillion with all the necessary nuclear submarines of 30-40 billion now the question is whether a large fleet can be built for 140 billion that Rusnano has allocated since 2007 - no answer is required.

          What aircraft carriers?
          With this money, it was possible to carry out a deep modernization of a dozen ships of projects 956/1155 and, thereby, resolve the issue with ships of the 1st rank for at least the next 10-15 years ...
        2. fa2998
          fa2998 21 January 2021 18: 27
          +7
          Quote: Vadim237
          the question of whether a large fleet can be built for 140 billion that has been allocated by Rusnano since 2007 is not required.

          And we only have Rusnano? Most of the state purchases, state investments are only to give people close to them the opportunity to earn. This is trillions a year. Then we have wooden toilets for 400 thousand, the roads are several times more expensive than in China, but "descend" along with the snow. Etc. etc.
          You need a private investor. And you will not "spoil". He will not spend his money in vain, he will monitor the quality, and penalties in the contract for hidden defects. But for a private owner, especially a foreign one, this power does not inspire confidence! hi
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 22 January 2021 18: 36
            -6
            Roads are several times more expensive than in the same China, we are not China either in terms of soil or climate, and now all road builders are already responsible for the quality for years to come, however, as well as throughout the construction of the fed money.
    6. Old Orc
      Old Orc 21 January 2021 16: 25
      +10
      Sorry, of course, but if there weren't so many thieves in Russia, then in Europe no one would live in such a way that someone would look up to them. They steal not because they are thieves, or rather, not only because, but because they have the right example. But the problem of Russia is that the common fund is all there in Europe.
    7. Sahalinets
      Sahalinets 22 January 2021 05: 56
      +3
      How is it done? Allocate loot and effective managers brainstorm how to cut it. Approximate "innovator" Vasya is called and finds out that investments are shining for him. 70% will immediately rollback to effective managers, and for the rest, Vasya has to bungle something for the report. Vasya gets the loot, rolls back, steals another 25%, and then scrambles the idea from Kickstarter and makes some gizmo for the remaining 5%. And everything is covered in chocolate ...
      1. AML
        AML 22 January 2021 18: 51
        -1
        Quote: Sahalinets
        How is it done? Allocate loot and effective managers brainstorm how to cut it. Approximate "innovator" Vasya is called and finds out that investments are shining for him. 70% will immediately rollback to effective managers, and for the rest, Vasya has to bungle something for the report. Vasya gets the loot, rolls back, steals another 25%, and then scrambles the idea from Kickstarter and makes some gizmo for the remaining 5%. And everything is covered in chocolate ...


        Sound, at least in theory, how you can make a 70% cashback rollback.
        1. Sahalinets
          Sahalinets 23 January 2021 01: 23
          +1
          Yes Easy. You register dummy companies and they issue invoices for the alleged work done.
          1. AML
            AML 23 January 2021 08: 54
            0
            It is clear that you do not know, but an acquaintance of a neighbor in the garage of his grand-niece says that this is possible
            1. 2 Level Advisor
              2 Level Advisor 26 January 2021 08: 46
              0
              in a contract for a construction site, only with obvious crime, 70% is possible, in innovations (research) it is not very difficult because the cost of the result (estimate / scope of work) is not determined in advance, but the main thing is that there are no guarantees (requirements) that 100% will be a successful result ..
              1. AML
                AML 26 January 2021 10: 06
                0
                How is it uncertain? Initially, surveys are carried out, as a result of which the TK is drawn up, often at the expense of the contractor. And on the basis of the TK, as part of the contract, financing is already taking place.
                If you are not a supporter of TK, then I will gladly hire you. :) Not that I really need slaves, but suddenly I like it.
                1. 2 Level Advisor
                  2 Level Advisor 26 January 2021 13: 27
                  0
                  Yes, the total amount was initially determined, of course! But, do you understand that experimental research is not the implementation of specific work? he may need 5, or maybe 25 analyzes, for example, he will need + some other additional research and will have to be financed for any .. taking into account that this is an experiment, if at the end he says, "well, I didn’t shmogla" and you won’t do anything, there are no guarantees of the result gave this research on a specific topic, and not in a row .. you know what "trough"?
      2. clerk
        clerk 28 January 2021 00: 49
        0
        Have you personally encountered government purchases (it does not matter - from "that" side or from "this" side) or again "Rabinovich sang"?
    8. businessv
      businessv 28 January 2021 20: 57
      +1
      Quote: Svarog
      if we did not have so many thieves, we would live no worse than the most advanced Europeans.
      100% colleague!
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 21 January 2021 15: 12
    +7
    "Ros / P \ odsos" with a red devil at the head ... and you won't tell about them - they sit well! because sho century they will not see the will, deserve!
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 21 January 2021 15: 22
      +7
      Quote: rocket757
      "Ros / P \ odsos" with a red devil at the head ... and you won't tell about them - they sit well! because sho century they will not see the will, deserve!

      They have everything according to their profile - NANO-achievements - nano-TIME ... This is for us for a random ruble a real time ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 21 January 2021 19: 32
        +5
        The trouble is straight.
        A lot of non-prisoners, fragrant and blissful, although Kolyma is sobbing for them, having waited / not waiting!
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 January 2021 15: 48
      +4
      Quote: rocket757
      "Ros / P \ odsos" with a red devil at the head ... and you won't tell about them - they sit well!

      Yes, the residents of Ozet do their best, and they do it well.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 21 January 2021 19: 33
        +4
        Well, yes, but we are bad, just because they are doing well.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 21 January 2021 21: 30
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          Well, yes, but we are bad, just because they are doing well.

          Well, we could not defeat them.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 21 January 2021 22: 01
            +1
            He's like a hydra ... but we didn't have Hercules.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 22 January 2021 00: 05
              0
              Quote: rocket757
              He's like a hydra ... but we didn't have Hercules.

              He is not a hydra, he is who he should be. They don't change and don't go away.
    3. Nemchinov Vl
      Nemchinov Vl 21 January 2021 16: 51
      +9
      Quote: rocket757
      and you won't tell about them - they sit well! because sho century they will not see the will, DESERVED!
      for a minute, imagine: - Chubais (and up to a dozen people like him !!), - fast and prompt investigation, and presentation of state. accusations for a number articles of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, such as: 1) Rassrata (!)., 2) Inappropriate use of budget funds (!)... 3) Theft collective (State) property and funds, on a particularly large scaleconjugated with causing irreparable damage to the state's defense (!) .... and a number of terms with three lifetimes, but better - shooting (!!!).... And nobody WILL NOT BE (!).... And that one will end immediately irreversible CHAOSwho really KINGS lately in MIC and the defense industry of the whole state (!)..... And in shipbuilding for the NavyAnd aircraft construction for videoconferencing .... and so on. etc. !!!. All you need is political WILL !!!
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 21 January 2021 19: 36
        +9
        No, no, it does not seem ... unless a comrade will rise up with a pipe and next to him in pince-nez !!!
        True, in the country, a sharp shortage of green stuff can come ... too many candidates for .... green stuff !!!
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 21 January 2021 20: 13
          +6
          Quote: rocket757
          True, in the country, a sharp shortage of green stuff can come ... too many candidates for .... green stuff !!!

          laughing good Exactly, there will be problems with brilliant green laughing
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 21 January 2021 20: 25
            +6
            We would have suffered ... for such a good, correct event!
            Cleansing the living space of any infection .... a sacred cause.
        2. Nemchinov Vl
          Nemchinov Vl 22 January 2021 12: 59
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          True, in the country, a sharp shortage of green stuff can come ... too many candidates for .... green stuff !!!
          ... well, this is not the most effective method of fighting corruption (green stuff) ... (!!!)but the train of thought / hint is clear hi ...
          Better still, as they say: see paragraph 1... ... or, -
          Quote: rocket757
          unless a comrade arises with a pipe and next to him in pince-nez !!!
          ... or at least the ascetic Andropov ...
          Quote: rocket757
          We would have suffered ... for such a good, correct event!
          Cleansing the living space of any infection .... a sacred cause.
          !!!
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 22 January 2021 13: 11
            +2
            I would like there to be order and law, rule everywhere and for everyone !!!
            Dreams Dreams.
        3. Drugov
          Drugov 22 January 2021 18: 04
          +3
          It's not a pity for such a good deed. They would have suffered and would have cost a plantain.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 22 January 2021 19: 17
            +1
            What to endure, what can you wait?
            What does plantain have to do with it? Did you hurt your knee?
            1. Drugov
              Drugov 22 January 2021 19: 41
              +4
              Have you turned off irony? Plantain, despite the fact that if we spend all the brilliant green to smear the foreheads with all this trash, then we could live using plantain and other medicines instead of brilliant green. So you understand better?)))
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 22 January 2021 22: 49
                +1
                Clear. Sorry, got excited ... plantain, it's like that from childhood. This is how the grandmother treated the stripped knees of her grandchildren!
                Now, with the "concerns" of those for whom the green stuff is not a pity, one has to switch to grandmother's methods of treatment!
                It is, of course, old and proven, but not everything can be cured like that, alas.
        4. your1970
          your1970 23 January 2021 11: 06
          -1
          Quote: rocket757
          unless a comrade arises with a pipe and next to him in pince-nez !!!

          And remind me, why, as soon as he died, the Dead Road was immediately closed as an unnecessary, economically ineffective project? Who for these millions - thrown in the tundra together with the steam locomotive of the world - was shot ??? !!!
          Who was personally punished with brilliant green for her ????? !!!!!!!
          Or "is it different"?
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 23 January 2021 12: 54
            +3
            Quote: your1970
            Dead road - as an unnecessary, economically ineffective project?

            The one who does nothing is not mistaken!
            This is because the ratio is important, victories and defeats.
            By the way, they could have quit because they DIDN'T SHMO ... they turned out to be of the wrong caliber! And slander / pile up later, they could have done anything, those other figures turned out to be, as the further development of events showed.
            We, I, are not in favor of recreating the old order, that it was that PASSED!
            But order and inevitable responsibility for deeds, deeds, deeds, for EVERYONE and ALWAYS, this is the necessary minimum that our country needs for development ...
            1. your1970
              your1970 23 January 2021 15: 26
              0
              Quote: rocket757
              By the way, they could have quit because they DIDN'T SHMO

              And economists for what ???! Count it was weak, what will not pull the USSR this construction ??
              Someone decided at first that someone would pull later that they would not pull. But not the first, not the second PUNISHMENT did not carry .... This is the answer to your demand
              Quote: rocket757
              inevitable responsibility for deeds, deeds, deeds, for ALL and ALWAYS,

              The country just abandoned steam locomotives in the middle of the tundra ...
              There were few such construction projects ???
              After the scam with the turning of the rivers of Siberia, my father at the PMK got a Caterpillar scraper .. Beast .. They fulfilled the plan of the quarter on it for a month and a half. ..
              But when it broke down, trash began ... Currencies for the purchase of spare parts - don't even stutter ...
              He lured 2 machine operators and got some machines for them. Two men sat in blue, received a big salary (otherwise we will go to the city !!!) and once every six months they sharpened some kind of spare part ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 23 January 2021 16: 39
                +1
                Anything happened, our ancestors left us a vast inheritance .... MISCELLANEOUS!
                We must learn from past mistakes and not repeat!
                We will do enough of our own, new ones ... the less, the better. What would the descendants, then, reproachfully remembered us.
                1. your1970
                  your1970 24 January 2021 01: 10
                  -2
                  Quote: rocket757
                  We must learn from past mistakes and not repeat!

                  and have you seen a lot - so that people learn from mistakes ??
                  Everyone knows that you cannot make a control descent by sending a cartridge into the chamber. How many people shoot like this every year? The carriage ...

                  And besides, in our country, a mistake can be the right decision, and the right decision can be stupidity.
                  Then...

                  And yet - you understand that any return there - is it the need to shoot from 1 to 2 million people ?? Regardless of our desires and preferences? simply because no one will just give his (even stolen) - and if he does, it will harm?
                  The figure is rough - but 100 won't get off
          2. clerk
            clerk 28 January 2021 00: 57
            +1
            The northern latitude course is a railway line under construction in the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug with a length of 707 kilometers along the Obskaya - Salekhard - Nadym - Novy Urengoy - Korotchaevo route, which should connect the western and eastern parts of the Autonomous Okrug, and the Northern Railway with the Sverdlovskaya. The project is being implemented jointly by the government of Russia, the government of the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug, PJSC Gazprom, OJSC Russian Railways and JSC Development Corporation. Roszheldor [
      2. clerk
        clerk 28 January 2021 00: 52
        0
        Before carrying nonsense - you at least open the UK
        1. your1970
          your1970 28 January 2021 09: 25
          0
          Quote: clerk
          North latitude course
          and? That is, those who are his closed after Stalin's death - bastards and traitors? Khrushch and Company?
          Quote: your1970
          in our country, a mistake can be the right decision, and the right decision can be stupidity
          Then...


          Quote: clerk
          Before carrying nonsense - you at least open the UK

          Only here troubles ... you were inattentive reading
          Quote: your1970
          any return there
          - well, or I wrote it is not clear repeat ..
          Here I mean return to the USSR- in the context of previous comments, and not the return of the railway to the old highway (here no one will fall under the Criminal Code - for Khrushch is dead !!)

          Naturally, if the USSR returns, there will be a new Criminal Code. And naturally you will have to shoot a lot
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            1. your1970
              your1970 28 January 2021 12: 12
              0
              Quote: clerk
              Therefore, your proposal to return to the USSR and mass shootings is either rough trolling, or "fuck you," or just stupidity. Unless, of course, you want a Civil War, which the country simply won't survive.

              Where did you see me a wish(!!!) Civil ??? !!!!

              I state a fact that if we return back to the USSR, we will have to shoot a lot, just because my neighbor is a farmer for 30 years its cultivates the land - and his land - ALL the land of the former collective farm.
              And then there is a choice - either to select / nationalize and he will go into the forest, or in six months the population will come to you and say: "And what for us your socialism - if there was no work, there is no ???? !!!!!" (he has 4 working and that's all) .... "Turn the collective farm back !!!!" ...
              And a dead end ...

              And there are a lot of such land owners, shopping centers in former factories, etc. ...

              We will not be able to nationalize Gazprom and not nationalize, for example, a factory that produces some sort of fittings for Gazprom, there will be wild corruption.
              What actually showed the NEP, when denyuzhka started up at the merchants, they began to buy power on the vine. And this is one of the reasons - why Stalin slammed the NEP - the party and state apparatus began to decay rapidly ...
              1. clerk
                clerk 28 January 2021 12: 35
                0
                I did not understand your "if we return to the USSR, we will have to shoot a lot." This is some kind of spherical horse in a vacuum. Return to the USSR is not possible.
  3. Alexga
    Alexga 21 January 2021 15: 17
    +20
    And that, seeing the embezzlement of budget money, the state does not have a body that should fasten the handcuffs in the hands of a thief ???
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 21 January 2021 15: 23
      +22
      Quote: AlexGa
      And that, seeing the embezzlement of budget money, the state does not have a body that should fasten the handcuffs in the hands of a thief ???

      So there all the organs are the same .. the body is to be cremated.
      1. clerk
        clerk 28 January 2021 11: 33
        0
        The body is the country and the people. And to mow with your tongue - your back does not hurt.
    2. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 21 January 2021 15: 24
      +16
      Quote: AlexGa
      And that, seeing the embezzlement of budget money, the state does not have a body that should fasten the handcuffs in the hands of a thief ???

      "do not give up their own" (C)
    3. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 21 January 2021 15: 24
      +18
      Quote: AlexGa
      there is no body in the state,

      Judging by the fact that the May decrees have been sabotaged for several years, the state certainly does not have an authority. wassat
      And according to Chubais, Putil personally said that he was an effective manager. Hence, there should be an understanding of why the red-haired devil is still at large. hi
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 21 January 2021 15: 40
        +17
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        And according to Chubais, Putil personally said that he was an effective manager. Hence, there should be an understanding of why the red-haired devil is still at large

        The proto of the concept of -efficiency in people and "effective" is very different .. Common fund replenishes -know is effective ..
    4. fa2998
      fa2998 21 January 2021 18: 58
      +5
      Yes, this is not a banal theft of money. This is DEVELOPMENT. There the money has already been divided, both to the executor and to the regulatory authorities. Everyone is happy. wassat wassat wassat
    5. Drugov
      Drugov 22 January 2021 18: 06
      +4
      The main thing as a result of investigative actions is not to get out on ourselves)))
    6. clerk
      clerk 28 January 2021 11: 31
      0
      There is a Law. Therefore, "seeing" you can blame your wife / husband for treason, and for arrest and imprisonment you need first evidence, and then a court decision,
  4. Proton
    Proton 21 January 2021 15: 18
    +21
    It is necessary to start with the question - "And who appointed him to the position?"
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 21 January 2021 15: 24
      +17
      Quote: Proton
      It is necessary to start with the question - "And who appointed him to the position?"

      In my opinion, there are already answers to all the questions .. There is only no answer to the question .. what to do with it ..
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 21 January 2021 15: 29
        +3
        Shoot this red brute, even though the people will calm down.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 21 January 2021 15: 40
          +18
          Quote: Ros 56
          Shoot this red brute, even though the people will calm down.

          So he is not alone there ... and not the richest, as it turns out ..
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 21 January 2021 16: 08
            +5
            And not for wealth, but for participating in the collapse of the USSR.
      2. Machito
        Machito 21 January 2021 15: 39
        +3
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: Proton
        It is necessary to start with the question - "And who appointed him to the position?"

        In my opinion, there are already answers to all the questions .. There is only no answer to the question .. what to do with it ..

        Understand and forgive. (C) Bearded.
        And the lower classes do not want, and the upper classes cannot. And the party is not expected due to total digital control.
        Even though the whole country is praying in churches to send Russia a good tsar, from heaven of course.
        1. clerk
          clerk 28 January 2021 11: 51
          0
          Bad dancer .....
      3. antivirus
        antivirus 21 January 2021 15: 42
        -4
        Chubais is a talented official, and the development of any state comes from the teacher.
        He didn’t say a word about the priority of "science, knowledge to the masses" and so on.
        all investments of his office ------ !!!!!! correct. not always profitable. not for the market.
        reforms began in 91 - "we must develop, reform the old soviet .." very few have been built new.
        The problem of Ch will be after 2050 - they will not give a damn about the portraits of the reformer (as in Beria), and the system official Chubais is good.
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 21 January 2021 15: 51
          +2
          Something like that can be written about any weasel.
          He's a reformer! Only centuries later do people realize!
          You, contemporaries, cannot understand!
          1. antivirus
            antivirus 21 January 2021 15: 52
            +2
            He's a reformer! Only centuries later do people realize!

            - realize early.
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 21 January 2021 16: 45
              +1
              Quote: antivirus
              realize earlier.

              Specifically, what benefit did it bring to the state?
      4. TRex
        TRex 21 January 2021 16: 30
        +15
        There is such an ancient, popular, apt expression: "Hand washes hand"... Do not be surprised at anything - thieves are in power.
    2. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 21 January 2021 15: 28
      +2
      It is necessary to start with the question - "And who appointed him to the position?"

      smile Not a loyal question was asked ... it is known who ... but who is better not to say it out loud ... because the one about whom you said is an untouchable and non-judicial person and has lifelong immunity from the effects of the law.
      In general, when you talk about him, do not say aloud, otherwise you will be attracted for slander at an uneven hour. hi
      As for Mr. Chubais, I just admire this unsinkable sharper ... for so many years to sell brains to everyone and everywhere without consequences for your own person, you need to have a powerful roof and the talent of Ostap Bender, who knows perfectly 400 ways to legally take money from gullible citizens.
      1. Proton
        Proton 21 January 2021 15: 29
        +3
        I agree!
        I will use the language of Aesop. laughing
      2. Svarog
        Svarog 21 January 2021 15: 47
        +8
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        As for Mr. Chubais, I just admire this unsinkable sharper.

        To admire Chubais? .. This is not a very healthy reaction. Ostap was a petty swindler who did not influence the fate of hundreds of millions of people .. and Chubais influences and moreover, is ready to destroy many millions of people in the name of "democracy" .. To admire such a person, about the same as Hitler.
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 21 January 2021 15: 56
          0
          To admire Chubais? .. This is not a very healthy reaction.

          How to say . what Kvachkov, for example, showed a different reaction and went to jail ... then what is left to do with this person ... to laugh at him ... there is no other way yet. hi
          1. clerk
            clerk 28 January 2021 11: 54
            0
            Kvachkov is a vivid example of how an aggressive "honest patriot-chatterbox" (in language) turned out to be a worthless professional as soon as it came to a real case. Just like Rogozin. Many local critics who want to "recruit honest statesmen" (they probably mean themselves) should remember this well.
    3. Legionista
      Legionista 21 January 2021 15: 28
      +14
      It is necessary to start with the question - "And who appointed him to the position?"
      good
      Appointed by the one whom he once appointed himself)))
    4. for
      for 21 January 2021 15: 41
      +3
      Quote: Proton
      "And who appointed him to the post?"

      Someone who is the State Department.
    5. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 January 2021 15: 53
      +3
      Quote: Proton
      It is necessary to start with the question - "And who appointed him to the position?"

      It depends on which one, the very first or the very last.
  5. Ros 56
    Ros 56 21 January 2021 15: 27
    +3
    And for this, speaking in good conscience, let the GDP swell.
  6. Tagan
    Tagan 21 January 2021 15: 28
    -19%
    Quote: Svarog
    I get the feeling, after the Chubais, Kovalchuks and Navalny's investigations ... that if we didn't have so many thieves, we would live no worse than the most advanced Europeans.

    Shit, and the "investigation" of Navalny pulled. Well done!)))
    Besides thieves, there is another type of internal enemies. These (in particular) include the hangover of the same Navalny, including himself, respectively.
    Or did you add Navalny to the thieves? It's not entirely clear what they meant))
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 21 January 2021 15: 50
      +12
      Quote: Tagan
      Or did you add Navalny to the thieves? It's not entirely clear what they meant))

      They are all the same to me. Only Navalny did not bring any harm to the state, unlike your idol. Moreover, it is still beneficial. Thanks to him, the country knows its "heroes". But I don't want to see him in the presidency. But the Attorney General .. maybe he would have done well.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 21 January 2021 15: 58
        -2
        Only Navalny did not bring any harm to the state
        You are mistaken ... his performance with the Novice will still backfire in Russia ... besides, I really do not accept Navalny's methods of dealing with youth ... besides, I think that behind Navalny's back there are definitely the special services of the West.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 21 January 2021 16: 12
          +17
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          You're wrong ... his performance with the Newbie

          Yes, a lot of people were poisoned and killed .. only in our country opposition politicians for some reason do not die by their own death .. and nothing backfired in Russia. Theft is immeasurable, impunity, irresponsibility and zeroing out at us.
      2. clerk
        clerk 28 January 2021 14: 43
        0
        (Hand face) Does Navalny have a law degree?
  7. yuriy55
    yuriy55 21 January 2021 15: 29
    +17
    Nanoachievements of Anatoly Chubais's empire. Failure at public expense

    This is a lie. Friends (acquaintances) of the President of Russia cannot be in failure.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 21 January 2021 15: 36
      +2
      Where are they ... not at Sobchak's bride occasion?
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 21 January 2021 15: 42
      +9
      Quote: yuriy55
      This is a lie. Friends (acquaintances) of the President of Russia cannot be in failure.

      You say Putin means Chubais, you say Chubais means Putin wassat
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 January 2021 16: 00
      +6
      Quote: yuriy55
      This is a lie.

      Tell me who your friend is, I'll tell you who you are ...
      1. Pechkin
        Pechkin 22 January 2021 06: 45
        +1
        This is not friendship at all, Sobchak and Navalny are not friends, and neither are Chubais; they are more like spiders in a bank.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 22 January 2021 09: 10
          0
          Quote: Pechkin
          This is not friendship at all, Sobchak and Navalny are not friends, and neither are Chubais; they are more like spiders in a bank.

          Just a Caudle.
        2. Viktor Afanasev
          Viktor Afanasev 25 January 2021 15: 37
          0
          They are all liberals. Only the path to power is different. The goal is one.
  8. Poetry
    Poetry 21 January 2021 15: 31
    +16
    The prefix "nano" has come into our use.
    In this area, things are nasty.
    Did you want something differently, or what? ..
    At the helm is Chubais. The same NANOTOLY.

    There is Rusnano, and there are staff.
    Nobody there did anything, the hell kicked.
    And NANOtoly buzzed all the hardest.
    There are many thorns on the nanoscale.

    It would be necessary to disperse these experts,
    To give them sincere nanotumaks! ..
    Our nano-offensive is choking.
    His would be to the police in the nano department.

    In a nano chamber, he would go to nano prisoners,
    Some kind of dangerous nano people.
    Let them have a nano conversation with him,
    To find out who is the main nano thief?

    He fulfilled his mission with "Hurray".
    Give him a tip from a nano ax! ..
    To fly off a red nano head.
    For all his deeds and for filthy words ...
    1. for
      for 21 January 2021 15: 49
      +9

      I would like to add a video to the poems.
      1. Poetry
        Poetry 21 January 2021 15: 55
        +5
        laughing "Russian nanists" Cool. They created something that is useless and useless.
    2. Crowe
      Crowe 21 January 2021 15: 50
      +24
      Quote: Poetiszaugla
      For all his deeds and for the filthy words ..

      Chubais: "Why are you worried about these people? Well, thirty million will die out. They did not fit into the market. Don't think about it - new ones will grow up."
      How could a normal person say that? An inhuman could only.
      1. Poetry
        Poetry 21 January 2021 15: 58
        +11
        I also remember it literally. Good people leave, but such people live.
  9. apro
    apro 21 January 2021 15: 40
    -13%
    I understand the questions to Chubys from the communists ... but from the Russians. I don’t understand. Because he is a successful businessman. He destroyed the legacy of the bloody Bolsheviks. So that the Russian people would taste real capitalistic freedom. Got new opportunities to sell their opportunities. He moved the dream of the Russian people to live without a scoop. as a bar. live in a market economy ... he enjoys the confidence of the authorities. he is entrusted with serious tasks. and in power. by the way, legally elected and used by the people in the elections, there are no claims to him.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 21 January 2021 15: 42
      +7
      What do you care about the Russian comrade from the Amur region ... let the Russians figure out who is who. hi
      1. apro
        apro 21 January 2021 15: 45
        -8
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        What do you care about the Russian comrade from the Amur region ... let the Russians figure out who is who. hi

        Yes, a storm in a glass is amusing ... really no one can do anything to the Chubys ... he's a monument.
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 21 January 2021 15: 48
          +6
          Well, what does the Russians have to do with it? Or will you attract Russians on every occasion?
          1. apro
            apro 21 January 2021 15: 51
            -16%
            Quote: Lech from Android.
            Well, what does the Russians have to do with it? Or will you attract Russians on every occasion?

            And who and what ??? the Russian people have chosen this path of development.
            1. Lech from Android.
              Lech from Android. 21 January 2021 15: 53
              +1
              And who and what ??? the Russian people have chosen this path of development.

              Aha ... I did not elect Chubais ... no need to hang on the ears ... from Chubais they learned.
              1. apro
                apro 21 January 2021 15: 57
                -8
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                Aha ... I did not elect Chubais ... no need to hang on the ears ... from Chubais they learned.

                Lyokha. Elections exist so that they can walk. And democracy, so that the majority would choose the best. And if you are in the minority, it means that the best are not chosen. The people will not let you lie ... all Russian presidents were elected by the majority.
          2. Crowe
            Crowe 21 January 2021 16: 03
            +12
            Quote: Lech from Android.
            Or will you attract Russians on every occasion?

            For how many years has he only been doing this here, or has he just noticed?
            Oleg (not the fact that Oleg) Frolov (big doubt that Frolov),
            Let me give you this as a present, it will be very useful to you, because I have already got everyone by my naked Russophobia.
            1. apro
              apro 21 January 2021 16: 12
              -7
              Quote: Crowe
              I have already gotten everyone with his blatant Russophobia.

              Crow. Where is Russophobia in my comments? I don’t see it at close range. If the Russians chose this path of development. Who’s wrong ???
    2. TRex
      TRex 21 January 2021 16: 37
      +9
      The leadership of "RusHydro" was especially successful ... Do you remember how famously people jumped through the turnstiles when, after an advanced, progressive and very major overhaul, a unit at a hydroelectric power station collapsed?
      1. apro
        apro 21 January 2021 16: 43
        +6
        and it is not yet clear what is worse than an accident at the Sayan or the destruction of a single power system.
  10. Professor
    Professor 21 January 2021 15: 45
    +2
    Rusnano's achievements are really comparable to nanometers and it is not possible to consider them. request

    After so many successful, as Chubais himself believes, years of work in a technology corporation, the 65-year-old manager is sent to an insignificant position. Are there any more weighty arguments against the actual failure of the Rusnano project?

    The author is completely wrong. The position is very meaningful in the current environment. Chubais only with whom else the bourgeois are ready to talk a little by virtue of his nominal liberal past.

    the world's first vaccine against COVID-19.

    So much "first" that it still has not passed all the stages of testing. We will not say anything about international certification. "Not the first" Faizer vaccines have already been vaccinated over 20 million people.

    PS
    All innovative projects cannot be successful. In our country, it is considered good luck if one of ten projects (start-ups) fails. And super luck if one in 30 becomes really super profitable.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 21 January 2021 15: 52
      +5
      Chubais is the only one with whom else the bourgeoisie are ready to talk, because of his nominal liberal past.
      A swindler of a swindler will always understand ... professor, will you take this liberal to your place in Israel ... he will just have to go to court ... Netanyahu will make friends with him, you look, he will appoint him the chief economist of Israel ... can you imagine how Israel will rise in the world.
      1. Professor
        Professor 21 January 2021 17: 16
        +5
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        A crook crook will always understand ..

        It turns out that the whole Ministry of Foreign Affairs is swindlers because they constantly communicate with bourgeoisie. Not logical however.

        Quote: Lech from Android.
        .professor and not if you take this liberal to your Israel ... he will just have to go to court ... Netanyahu will make friends with him, you look at him and appoint him as the chief economist of Israel ... imagine how Israel will rise in the world.

        As a Jew, Chubais has the right to repatriate to Israel and will receive Israeli citizenship directly at the airport upon arrival. We cannot prevent him from doing this. A political career does not shine for him here. He has nothing to do here either in the civil service. And we do not live badly without him. For example, the dollar fell to a minimum of the last 25 years. I am recalculating my income in US currency and am feeling a little shock and bewilderment. bully
    2. yuriy55
      yuriy55 21 January 2021 16: 55
      +1
      Quote: Professor
      Chubais is the only one with whom else the bourgeoisie are ready to talk, because of his nominal liberal past.

      The bourgeois will talk to Chubais because he was an intermediary in the alienation of public property and its transformation into joint stock.
      His second feat is the tattered RAO UES and its transformation into separate systems: the production of electricity, where the average cost is 1-1,10 rubles per 1 kWh, and its sales, where the price is set depending on the appetites of consumers. Is it good? Some hunch back in production, others regulate cash flows and capacities. And, after all, the cost of electricity is included in the price of almost any product and product ...
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 21 January 2021 17: 12
      +2
      "Not the first" Faizer vaccines have already been vaccinated over 20 million people. There are already dozens of dead people - let them inject further from these vaccinations with this Faizer, which appeared later than Sputnik V, and all the more did not pass full certification.
  11. vik669
    vik669 21 January 2021 15: 58
    +7
    Effective managers are ineffective - why is it so even ...!
  12. Tagan
    Tagan 21 January 2021 16: 05
    -8
    Quote: Svarog

    They are all the same to me. Only Navalny did not bring any harm to the state, unlike your idol. Moreover, it is still beneficial. Thanks to him, the country knows its "heroes". But I don't want to see him in the presidency. But the Attorney General .. maybe he would have done well.

    You hurried with my idol.
    You say the prosecutor? Well then, it's not bad to pull up his fighting friend Lyuban Sobol, right?
    No harm ... But nothing that Alyosha and his entourage are extremists? Or will you deny it?
    And Alyosha is also a political pedophile.
    And so, no harm.
    You often refer to the times of the USSR. So, in the USSR, Lyosha would have been shot for treason.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 21 January 2021 16: 15
      +5
      Quote: Tagan
      You often refer to the times of the USSR. So, in the USSR, Lyosha would have been shot for treason.

      And not only him ... but everyone who is now in power and whose income does not correspond to expenses .. your idol would also fall under the "rink of justice".
      But now is it not 37th? Or has it already begun?
  13. Vadim Ananyin
    Vadim Ananyin 21 January 2021 16: 06
    +8
    In fact, a Komsomol leader cannot have an understanding of science and engineering, and there is no top manager either.
    That is why he was kept in this capacity for so long with such finances. Question? The shoals of his deputies are also known who tried to hide in Asia, but for some reason we don't sink him?
    Is this a cant of power? Or maybe something needs to be changed at the conservatory?
  14. Klingon
    Klingon 21 January 2021 16: 11
    +4
    Quote: Svarog
    I get the feeling, after the Chubais, Kovalchuks and Navalny's investigations ... that if we didn't have so many thieves, we would live no worse than the most advanced Europeans.

    Moreover, this thief can be counted on the fingers, but they steal on such a scale that the effect affects the whole country. These are real grabbers and all that is not enough for them .. then the philosophy begins: is there a limit to human greed? wassat
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 21 January 2021 16: 32
      +6
      Quote: Klingon
      while this thief can be counted on the fingers,

      Not quite so .. there are not enough fingers .. Here is a cooperative lake .. each of them has relatives, friends, those relatives have their own relatives and friends .. as a result, there are a lot of them .. everyone cuts in their place .. and besides members of the cooperative, each region has its own sawmill owner .. who also has relatives and friends .. The scale here is insane.
      1. Klingon
        Klingon 21 January 2021 23: 58
        +3
        in short, the fractalization of thieves ... all this is sad. and then we wonder why rockets don't fly and aircraft carriers are not being built ... but someone has nothing to eat at all
  15. Andrey Yurievich Vlasov
    Andrey Yurievich Vlasov 21 January 2021 16: 13
    +4
    What useful thing did the ginger devil do? It would be better not to have been born!
  16. AB
    AB 21 January 2021 16: 20
    +9
    GDP does not abandon its own ... And the opinion of the majority of the inhabitants of Russia, the inmate of Novo-Ogaryovo, does not care.
  17. Tagan
    Tagan 21 January 2021 16: 26
    -4
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: Tagan
    You often refer to the times of the USSR. So, in the USSR, Lyosha would have been shot for treason.

    And not only him ... but everyone who is now in power and whose income does not correspond to expenses .. your idol would also fall under the "rink of justice".
    But now is it not 37th? Or has it already begun?

    Most.
    What are you doing with "my" idol? Putin, if you meant him, is not my idol. Rather yours, if you constantly remember it)). I don’t remember that I once even mentioned the name Putin here.
    It is not necessary to look into the 37th. The death penalty was also much later.
  18. Engineer
    Engineer 21 January 2021 16: 27
    +12
    He worked at Rusnano for a year and a half.

    The main impression is a huge number of excellent professionals in lower and middle positions
    With regard to the leadership, there was mostly only one refrain - where did it come from?

    The main reason for the strategic fail, in my opinion, is too many directions under one roof.
    Rusnano was conceived as a company engaged in the commercialization of startups, but in the process of work the focus was constantly changing - either it intensively went into growing startups instead of selection and acceleration, then it was engaged in venture capital investment in ready-made products, and not related to nanotechnology, such as Kagocel,

    It was also funny that the quality of its work was determined by Rusnano itself.
    One of the key disbursement criteria was the number of startups created. Therefore, the management was personally sophisticated in coming up with ideas and creating firms. Most of the ideas were stillborn from the start. But it was necessary for reporting.

    If instead of one roof there were separate clear directions, for example, semiconductors with a clear task - to increase the share of domestic components in any industry to a certain level, by a certain year, then the exhaust could be higher.

    A couple of clarifications, comments

    Russian competitors to Intel and AMD processors

    People are waiting for some kind of magic. This is objectively impossible.
    Either Mapper technology or its equivalent with performance limitations, or an outdated line at half price.
    We can only meet the demand from the defense industry and space. Best case scenario. Entering the mass market segment is unscientific fantasy for us.

    Or take Plastic Logic, which cost Russian taxpayers 9,4 billion rubles.

    Development of Plastic Logic is not closed yet
    Here is the heir

    https://www.rusnano.com/about/press-centre/news/20200310-fiop-gruppa-rosnano-otkryla-rossiyskiy-tsentr-gibkoy-elektroniki
  19. Rostislav
    Rostislav 21 January 2021 17: 00
    +4
    It has long been clear that this redhead is not just a thief, it is an economic sabotage. It is even difficult to count how much budget money was taken from the army, healthcare, infrastructure and thus slowed down the development of Russia.
    How long to endure such?
  20. Vadim237
    Vadim237 21 January 2021 17: 07
    0
    "The science-intensive part of nanotechnology - electronics and semiconductor industry, the industry of new materials and pharmaceuticals are practically not developed in our country." The author, before writing something, take an interest in the topic in depth - Radio electronics is not developed, but KRET is creating a photonic radar, the industry of new materials is not developed, and "Scientists of the Kurchatov Institute" as part of the research group received promising material for creating self-learning neuromorphic computing systems. exceeds traditional computers by several orders of magnitude.

    The new material, manufactured using the original technology, has all the necessary characteristics to simulate the neural contacts of a biosimilar computing system. A prototype of a self-learning robotic device was created on its basis. "
    Pharmaceuticals are not developed - but at the same time, vaccines against Ebola and Covid have been created in Russia and launched into mass production.
    The semiconductor industry is not developed, however - "The Ministry of Industry and Trade has appointed R&D executors to create three new domestic microprocessors. 20 billion rubles went to MCST, Modul and Elvis."
    In particular, 7,63 billion rubles. The Ministry of Industry and Trade has reserved for the ROC "Development of a system on a chip for embedded computing systems based on processor cores with a new generation NeuroMatrix architecture" (code "Neuro-B").

    Another 7,49 billion rubles. the ministry allocated for the development work on the creation of the microprocessor "Elbrus-32C" - for high-performance servers. The development was assigned the code "Processor-21 (SRV)".

    Finally, 6 billion rubles. the ministry was ready to pay for the R&D project "Development of a trusted multicore processor for software routers in secure networks" (code "MARCO-240"). The deadline for their execution in the TK is written on January 31, 2025 "
    Truly modern technological innovations and scientific breakthroughs in Russia can be counted on the fingers of one hand. The PD-14 family of aircraft engines, the synthesis of the chemical element Oganesson and, of course, the world's first vaccine against COVID-19 come to mind. There are actually many more than fingers on one hand.
    And thanks to Rusnano's investments, about 97 factories and R&D centers have been opened in 37 regions of Russia, turnover RUB 14 (854) and assets RUB 000 (000) - with a net profit of 2018 billion rubles per year as we can see, there is a turnover of production facilities that have been created and do not bring much profit - and as a result, any high-tech production has always been and will be a high-cost and very risky business all over the world.
  21. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 21 January 2021 17: 27
    +1
    According to the publication profile.ru, for the failed projects described above, managers (of state-owned companies) still received premiums in 2015 for 5,5 million rubles.

    And in a socially oriented state, which Russia has declared itself, these, it has long been clear, defective managers should have gotten sentences for squandering public funds!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 January 2021 18: 41
      -3
      You generally read the article - everything you spent 140 billion on Rusnano was returned back to the budget. And to the Author, the rubles, as they were, have remained since 2007, that in 2020 their mass has not changed in dollar terms but has changed - but our prices are not in dollars.
  22. podpolishik
    podpolishik 21 January 2021 17: 57
    0
    The red fox has always been an agent of influence with very serious support from the West (certain forces). Therefore, he is so "unsinkable." in the West ? NOBODY ! And in Russia he is like a pike in a river ..
  23. Shahno
    Shahno 21 January 2021 18: 05
    +1
    // of course, the world's first vaccine against COVID-19.//
    With all due respect, to the name. But excuse me not so, not quite so, that is, so .... But at the level as far as I see there were five vaccines. It's just that representatives of this industry (biotechnology, pharmaceuticals) are always accustomed to insuring themselves .. Here, as with the first manned flight into space, it will not work, at risk and risk it will not work.
    1. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 21 January 2021 23: 17
      +1
      That's not to mention the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were created almost in February.
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 23 January 2021 05: 29
      +1
      Quote: Shahno
      as far as I can see there were five vaccines.

      the very first vaccine is the NGO Vector vaccine. a military organization the United States has not yet created. Gamaleya's vaccine, a pitiful counterfeit from the raw materials of the same Vector, Gamaleya did not create anything on his own apart from expensive homeopathy. However, the advertising is intense. Everything else is again done on the basis of the test system, created again in Vector. In the NGO Vector, without a virus, they were able to create a chimera of a virus, for a test system, from known viruses back in February last year. And in March, a vaccine was ready, which has been tested on the first volunteers since the end of March .... A long fuss with a vaccine is politics. Including financial. They want to make money. And a lot.
  24. keleg
    keleg 21 January 2021 18: 18
    -2
    Some very illiterate article. VCs generally follow the 20-80 rule, i.e. 80 percent of their undertakings fail. That's okay, that's why they are venture capitalists. But 20% take off and do something really new. RosNANO did not succeed in everything (at least in terms of money it turned out to be a plus), but not to mention it in the OCSiAl article ... is it unfair, is it? Thanks to Rusnano (which means, alas or ah, Chubais), we have a company that is the undisputed world leader in nanotechnology, specifically in high-purity graphene tubes, with the help of minimal additives, many materials significantly increase their strength. In Russia, the first kilometers of asphalt with nanotubes have already been laid - 70% more durable, with a melting temperature of +10 degrees from the standard. And this is just the beginning.
    1. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 21 January 2021 23: 16
      +3
      Quote: keleg
      VCs generally follow the 20-80 rule, i.e. 80 percent of their undertakings fail. That's okay, that's why they are venture capitalists. But 20% take off and do something really new. RosNANO did not succeed in everything (at least in terms of money, it turned out to be a plus), but not to mention it in the OCSiAl article ... is it dishonest, is it?


      A simple arithmetic question - has the total investment paid off by Rusnano?
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 23 January 2021 05: 31
      +1
      I also waited about graphene ... did not find it.
  25. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 21 January 2021 19: 12
    +5
    PFF)) Chubais is far from the same Miller. That one only last year "sawed" as much money on "Power of Siberia" as the entire "Rusnano" in the entire history of its existence.)))
  26. Shahno
    Shahno 21 January 2021 19: 22
    +1
    There is no need for large corporations. Does not matter,
    everything is decided by people ... not the state, but the ambitions of specific individuals.
    Here is the Israeli experience:
    “A short tweet by Elon Musk, a famous American entrepreneur and today the richest man in the world, sparked a storm of interest in an Israeli startup from the Negev desert. in the Gaza Strip, the firm specializes in smart robots for loading and unloading boxes in warehouses.

    The scheme is typical for an Israeli high-tech: the guys who designed robots for military needs in the IDF go to civilian life and create a startup. Four young residents of Eshkol County - Liran Raiser, Itamar Levy, Tomer Amit and Olivier Hadad - founded the company in 2016. Armed with the knowledge gained from the Army Technology Department, they grab the attention of two investors and construct a nimble and compact warehouse robot. The project wins the competition for the scientific and technical "greenhouse" in the south of the country. One of the investors is a fund that invests in the development of warehouse equipment in the United States.
    But all this time, the company worked in the shadows until it posted a video on Twitter demonstrating the work of their SqUID robot. The post catches the eye of Elon Musk. "A robotic future is on the way," Musk wrote under the clip. He immediately spread all over the world, gaining about 2 million views and about 2 thousand "retweets".

    CEO Ilan Reingold says that after Musk's tweet, they received "a huge amount of feedback and calls from big players in the field of robotics, including from the largest in the world, with whom they did not even dare to enter into dialogue before." Investors and distributors from all over the world have contacted the Shaar HaNegev guys to invest in their business and help sell their products around the world. "
  27. xomaNN
    xomaNN 21 January 2021 20: 39
    0
    That still Meneger Chuba: "We invest ten rubles, we get one ruble of profit, nine rubles in losses bully
  28. skobars
    skobars 21 January 2021 21: 55
    +2
    Great Pu friend of red Nits, that says it all.
  29. Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 21 January 2021 22: 15
    +2
    Brought to power Putin, now untouchable
  30. The eye of the crying
    The eye of the crying 21 January 2021 23: 14
    0
    and, of course, the world's first COVID-19 vaccine.


    She was not the first.
  31. rozman
    rozman 22 January 2021 00: 52
    -2
    CHAB is a "theorist". Like all "economists" fluff. Unsuitable for practical activity. The result of his leadership in various places confirms my observation that "economics" as a science does not exist. There is an accounting department. In science there are objective laws that operate independently of the authorities, country and social system, like the law of universal gravitation. Here you just need to stop stealing, claiming that this is all about the economy!
  32. Jaromir
    Jaromir 22 January 2021 01: 18
    +20
    Nanoachievements of Anatoly Chubais's empire. Failure at public expense

    This is not a failure, these are negative achievements. yes bully
  33. Jaromir
    Jaromir 22 January 2021 01: 20
    +16
    Billions, billions and more billions

    Otherwise, Chubais cannot. Otherwise, not its scale.
    How could he not be torn apart by such finances? am
  34. Jaromir
    Jaromir 22 January 2021 01: 24
    +17
    Wasted money

    We think so. And Chubais's team believes that the money was not wasted, but financial expenses were made to invest in a technological project of the future.
    In general, you need to plant for this. And not to send a representative to Europe.
  35. Jaromir
    Jaromir 22 January 2021 01: 25
    +19
    Anatoly Chubais in 2011 showed Prime Minister Vladimir Putin a prototype of the tablet, which he threatened to supply every schoolchild in the country

    laughing At one time, he threatened to supply everyone with a Volga car
  36. 96423lom
    96423lom 22 January 2021 12: 05
    +1
    For many years it is not clear to me why he was still imprisoned.
  37. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 22 January 2021 13: 50
    +1
    Interestingly, the revival of the electronic components industry, in contrast to what Rusnano was doing in general, is quite possible. It was possible. Now, as you can understand, our specialists are simply dead. From old age and poverty ... But this is precisely what Chubais did not do, demonstratively destroying money for various hats! Someone banned it? Himself in any case did not want to? A very funny story ...
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 January 2021 18: 50
      0
      At the moment, there are 97 enterprises in Russia where Rusnano has invested - and they work and they are producing products, the Baikal processor just appeared thanks to these investments - and in total in Russia 3000 offices are engaged in radioelectronics, microelectronics, computer components, and there are many young employees.
      Therefore, "Now, as you can understand, our specialists have simply died" - Brad.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 25 January 2021 09: 42
        0
        There are money-pumps that regularly master the budget. There are no products of sane quality only. Yes, there is Baikal. With scandals and landings, but there is. At least something had to be passed off for all these trillions ... That's just the electronics industry, that's a little different. Thieves and paperworkers for theft registration, this is not it at all ...
  38. prior
    prior 22 January 2021 16: 32
    +1
    Rusnano was originally created to "feed" Chubais.
  39. high
    high 23 January 2021 07: 50
    0
    In 2015, the Accounts Chamber checked the spending of Rusnano and was horrified. 50 billion rubles or 37,3% of state money was invested in unprofitable projects! And this, let us recall, is the rubles almost six years ago, the liquidity of which was significantly higher than the current Russian currency. A total of 16 investment projects completed in 2015, eight turned out to be unprofitable,

    Rusnano creates start-up companies of promising technological areas, for example, in the field of solar generation and wind energy.
    Statistics of start-up companies in the leading countries of the world, in this area, the USA, Israel, showed that at the output, only 1-3% of successful startups are obtained, which with their profits cover the costs of other startups and the funds spent are returned, with profit, to investors.
    Therefore, it is doubtful that out of 16 companies in Rusnano, 8 were successful (50%), while in the USA and Israel only 1–3% of companies are successful.
    If, indeed, Rusnano shows a phenomenal result: 50% of successful companies, Chubais should be nominated for the Nobel Prize.

    By the way, the report of the Accounts Chamber on Rusnano in 2015 was sharply criticized by professionals.
    The article “Why only 1% of startups take off - and this is normal” explains the specifics of the activities of organizations such as Rusnano
    https://www.forbes.ru/tehnologii/339113-pochemu-vzletaet-tolko-1-startapov-i-eto-normalno
  40. 1536
    1536 23 January 2021 12: 11
    0
    That is largely why, looking constantly at such "nano-freaks", lounging around, but living like cheese in butter, young people are ready to take to the streets, protest, seek common sense and truth.
    The worst thing is that these people create a toxic environment around them, falling into which everything human disappears or is corroded in a person.
  41. Alexey Polyutkin
    Alexey Polyutkin 23 January 2021 12: 52
    +1
    I have long wanted to read a similar article and evaluate the scale of the money flowing into Rusnano. I think the article is not very detailed ... I mean, it touched on a small list of projects, abbreviated. But it gives you an understanding of the scale of the money drain ... The Rusnano project could give a start to good projects with the proper level of control and an integrated approach. So much for effective managers without a punishment system. But the system of rewarding yourself loved ones is on top. It's sad that no one will answer for this either. It’s clear that half of the projects were implemented specifically to drain money into offshore accounts.
  42. dgonni
    dgonni 23 January 2021 19: 48
    0
    The redhead was not demoted. He was actually promoted. And he will go to Europe to negotiate the terms of surrender. Well, on the terms accepted for the elites
  43. Alexey Kurilov_4
    Alexey Kurilov_4 23 January 2021 20: 45
    0
    But is Chubais to blame for the fact that he was assigned to where he is no snout? And now he is extreme that he did not dare to refuse
  44. Dimon-SPG
    Dimon-SPG 24 January 2021 02: 04
    0
    Yes, everything is fine with achievements! They're just nano, and you can't see them.
  45. Valery Prokhorov
    Valery Prokhorov 24 January 2021 10: 38
    +1
    Why is Rusnano separated from the state? It was an attempt to quickly create an analogue of a silicon valley in Russia. But as usual it turned out as always.
  46. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 24 January 2021 14: 30
    0
    Again, an article of illiterate blunders by an unknown author. In addition to whining, nothing can be seen, some years, some numbers, some incomprehensible projects are drawn from the air. And the author himself probably created empires that brought him profit from the first day, and he did not spend anything? And he is not aware that first there are investments, then the promotion of projects, and then you can count on profit. Many companies are created with the expectation that they will be profitable in 15-20 years, or even more. We need to plow and plow. Well, in fact, what we have. Rosnano paid out all the invested funds in the form of dividends to its only investor-state two years ago, and continues to pay to this day. The annual net profit goes stably in billions of rubles. tens of billions of rubles are paid in taxes. The company employs tens of thousands of people, built all over Russia for a hundred factories, work is underway under hundreds of different projects in the field of optics, electronics, medicine, pharmaceuticals, energy effect A lot of hardware is already being introduced into our lives throughout the country, especially with regard to import substitution. In world history, there were not so many similar projects that would pay off and grow so quickly. But our lack of writing of these liberal articles do not see this , and simply do not know. But for some reason, with their "gigantic" knowledge in economics, they still have not become billionaires, but print various slag for a penny that has nothing to do with reality.
  47. AML
    AML 24 January 2021 22: 11
    0
    Quote: Xscorpion
    Again, an article of illiterate blunders by an unknown author. In addition to whining, nothing can be seen, some years, some numbers, some incomprehensible projects are drawn from the air. And the author himself probably created empires that brought him profit from the first day, and he did not spend anything? And he is not aware that first there are investments, then the promotion of projects, and then you can count on profit. Many companies are created with the expectation that they will be profitable in 15-20 years, or even more. you need to plow and plow.


    I know a couple of such characters. They constantly whine that they are tired of working for 'uncle', that they are about to open their own business and kaaaak will heal. But a year passes, then another. One bad "uncle" is replaced by another, his business has not been opened for 100500 reasons, which are to blame for the crisis, corruption, crooked laws and Putin personally. But they beat themselves in the chest, that if they were given power, they would put things in order, but in fact, they don't even pull the losers. Losers even try to do something, but they fail. And these are just an empty place with a large CWS.
  48. Alexfly
    Alexfly 25 January 2021 12: 29
    +2
    Hahaha ... Our Chubais is Chubais for everyone, a multispectral genius .... He mastered macro technologies under the early Yeltsin (vouchers and privatization by the family), micro technologies under the late Yeltsin (section of business for the right people), under Putin he went into nanotechnology, but the essence is not changed - transformation of public financial instruments into personal ones. As they say, only business and nothing personal ... AND NOTHING in this will NEVER be changed ...
  49. Viktor Afanasev
    Viktor Afanasev 25 January 2021 15: 45
    0
    Everyone already understands everything. The authorities are already playing an open game. Apparently, they are sure that no one will ever be able to change anything ... They will put the Ovalny, the oligarchs will leave for their native Florida, the new ones will build more modest palaces. The main thing is that the resources will be supplied without interruption ... Well, the budget will be cut differently ...
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