US warns of imposition of sanctions on Russian pipe-laying barge Fortuna

The Russian pipe-laying barge Fortuna and its owner will be subject to US sanctions on Nord Stream 2. This was reported by the German edition Handelsblatt, citing sources.

According to the newspaper, Washington has already warned Germany and other European partners of its intention to impose sanctions against the Russian pipelayer and its owner. The restrictive measures are due to take effect on Tuesday, January 19, 2021.

(...) the American side will take all necessary steps to stop Nord Stream 2, which poses a threat to the national interests of the European allies

- stated at the US Embassy in Germany.

It is drawn attention that it remains unclear how the sanctions against "Fortune" will work, since the standard set of prohibition of transactions and blocking of accounts will most likely not work due to the repeated change of the owner of the vessel. The option of a new change of owner immediately after the introduction of sanctions is not excluded.

Let us remind you that on December 18, 2020 "Fortuna" once again changed its owner. According to the entry in the Russian International Register of Vessels (RMRS), the vessel was transferred from one Russian micro-enterprise to another. The new owner of the vessel is now KBT-Rus LLC with one employee in the state, which bought the barge from Universal Transport Group LLC, which, in turn, purchased the vessel from the Hong Kong Strategic Mileage in early October 2020.

In Germany, they said they "regret" the imposition of sanctions against the ship "Fortune" and "Nord Stream-2".

It should be noted that the Fortuna pipe-laying barge is the main vessel for completing the remaining section of the gas pipeline, which received all the necessary documents and permits to continue work both in German waters and in the Danish section.

Comments

[voronin]

Washington has already warned Germany and other European partners of its intention to impose sanctions on the Russian pipelayer and its owner.

Yes, everyone is ready.

[Uncle lee]

Germany said they "regret" the imposition of sanctions

And express concern!

[Temples]

sanctions against a Russian pipe-lay barge

Barge sanctions!

Soon there will be sanctions on shovels and hoes.

[Tatyana]

China would have done it simply in the place of Russia in response to the US sanctions pressure on the RF and EU countries. Namely.
China would build its own gas and oil refineries in the Russian Federation itself and reduce European imports of carbon-processed goods from European countries. For European industrialists, this will be a big disadvantage in their profits and they must force their governments to step up against the pressure on their countries and on Russia from Washington.

To do this, Russia simply needs to declare that the project for the construction of "SP-2" because of the US sanctions policy Russia intends to CLOSE and "SP-2" will not be completed! Like, we agree: let Europe pay for expensive American gas instead of cheap Russian gas.
The outcry of protests in the West will begin immediately in the opposite direction!
These are the rules in psychology.

[A.K.]

Gazprom has already warned its shareholders that it may postpone or not reach the northern stream at all. There was just news.

[Tatyana]

Quote: A.K.

Gazprom has already warned its shareholders that it may postpone or not reach the northern stream at all. There was just news.

It turns out that I LEFTLY ahead of this news here and now. Namely.

Shifting the burden of the Western countries' harassment to Russia in the matter of continuing the construction of the "SP-2" on themselves is the only RIGHT decision on the part of the Russian Federation in this situation!

[A.K.]

Moreover, the courts will then file for damages. They walk along the path of the mistrals. Something like this.

[Tatyana]

At first. In politics, promising to marry does not necessarily mean getting married. And "SP-2" may well be completed in the absence of sanctions obstacles from Washington.
And secondly. In this case, we are talking about "force majeure" (that is, force majeure circumstances) that allow Gazprom of the Russian Federation to terminate this agreement on the construction of SP-2 without consequences for Russia due to US sanctions. Namely.

Force majeure (force majeure) is extraordinary and unavoidable circumstances under specific conditions that make it impossible to properly fulfill the obligation (clause 3, article 401 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation).
According to paragraph 3 of Art. 401 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation, force majeure is the basis for the release of a person who has not fulfilled or improperly fulfilled an obligation in the exercise of entrepreneurial activity from liability, unless otherwise provided by law or contract. This means that the debtor-entrepreneur, the proper performance of whose obligations was impossible due to force majeure, should not, for example, compensate for losses or pay a penalty.

REFERENCE
The word "force majeure" was formed in business practice and is used to denote force majeure or force majeure circumstances (force majeure). The word "force majeure" itself was probably borrowed from the transcription of the English or French word "force majeure" (force majeure - French force majeure, English force majeure).
From a practical point of view the terms "force majeure" and "force majeure" are identical.

[A.K.]

No, there is no talk about force majeure; In exceptional circumstances, including due to political pressure, such changes may lead to the suspension or termination of the project, "- said in the message." And the US sanctions have already practically imposed in Germany, they will live on.

[Tatyana]

Quote: A.K.

In exceptional circumstances, including because of POLITICAL pressure, such changes may lead to the suspension or termination of the project ",

This is force majeure obstacles or in the legal language of the West "force majeure".

Now everything depends on the competent work of Russian lawyers and Russian diplomats.

[Kushka]

What is this irresistible force - the USA?
So the British took them in 1812 and the same
The Capitol was burned down in 1814, and the White House is also
in addition. We wanted and did!

[Avior]

The Capitol was burned down in 1814

and in 2021 defeated

[A.K.]

Political pressure This political pressure can be sued here, negotiated, etc., and it is not an irresistible force. Force majeure (French force majeure - "higher power", Latin vis maior; in Russian-language legal documents there is a controversial term "force majeure") - an unpredictable event (for example, a natural disaster or epidemic), independent of the will of the parties involved in transaction, but leading to the impossibility of fulfilling contractual obligations. Formally, in civil law systems, force majeure is defined as a circumstance that exempts the parties who entered into an agreement from liability.

In modern international relations, notes the historian S. V. Maksimenko, - military actions, strikes (especially if they are sanctioned by governments), as well as revolutions due to the "Paradoxes of Omnipotence" and the "Martens Clause" during wars, have ceased to be attributed to "Force majeure".

[Tatyana]

Quote: A.K.

In modern international relations, notes the historian S. V. Maksimenko, - military actions, strikes (especially if they are sanctioned by governments), as well as revolutions due to the "Paradoxes of Omnipotence" and the "Martens Clause" during wars, have ceased to be attributed to "Force majeure".

Russia does not declare military actions and strikes against the West. On the contrary, it is the United States and the collective West that SABOTES the completion of the SP-2 with their sanctions!

[A.K.]

I just wanted to explain to you about force majeure and that's it.

[Tatyana]

Quote: A.K.

I just wanted to explain to you about force majeure and that's it.

And I have a second higher education - specializing in "manager of financial, economic and administrative divisions" at the department of entrepreneurial and commercial activities.
And I know very well what "force majeure" is. This includes force majeure circumstances that in no way depend on the contractor himself, if he does not provoke them himself. And these are not necessarily only natural disasters.
Just with an objective market for sales, production and construction natural disasters like NATURAL CATACLISMS usually come to the fore. But there are other insurmountable circumstances - of a SUBJECTIVE nature, such as the dominant force majeure intervention from third parties (countries) - SANCTIONAL WAR of the same USA.

Well, Gazprom / RF will submit to some Western court about "SP-2! So what? Russia will win the court there? No!"
Meanwhile, the Constitution of the Russian Federation in this regard has already been changed. And the laws of the Russian Federation prevail over international ones.
How do you propose Russia to get out of this situation? Lie under the USA?
This is WAR! And let the countries of Western Europe choose for themselves what is closer to them - PEACE with Russia or War!

[A.K.]

Well, no one will start a war because of the northern stream. We are for sure. And we are already doing everything possible and not possible to complete the construction of the gas pipeline, which is no longer expedient for us. They need the gas pipeline no less and maybe more than Germany and others. So Gazprom made it clear to them that their patience is running out and opportunities are now behind them. Let them come to terms with the new administration in Washington. In my opinion, this is the calculation.

[Tatyana]

Quote: A.K.

So Gazprom made it clear to them that their patience is running out and the opportunity is now their turn. Let them come to terms with the new administration in Washington. In my opinion, this is the calculation.

Since Biden represents the interests of the financial capital of American globalists, and not of the productive capital of the United States, it is quite possible that the United States will allow Russia to complete the construction of the "SP-2" on condition that Gazprom rolls off financial kickbacks to Washington for pumping Russian gas to Europe via SP-2.
However, this is nothing more than raiding by the United States at the interstate level of the United States against Russia.
Will Russia agree to this? Here is the question!

[major147]

Quote: Tatiana

Shifting the burden of the Western countries' harassment to Russia in the matter of continuing the construction of the "SP-2" on themselves is the only RIGHT decision on the part of the Russian Federation in this situation!

Almost off topic, but very important:
"The new decision on the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline was ruled in favor of Gazprom"
The International Arbitration Court has published a decision on the main issue around which Nord Stream 2 AG and the European Union have broken lances for almost 1,5 years: the parties could not agree on whether the case should be considered in an international court under UN rules. The judges answered - it should.
Russia now has the opportunity to win the case on the illegality of the EU's Third Energy Package. It prohibits Gazprom from simultaneously owning the pipeline and selling Russian gas through it. The throughput capacity of Nord Stream 2 is 55 billion cubic meters per year. The cost of transportation is at least $ 20 per thousand cubic meters.
Back in September 2019, Gazprom's Nord Stream 2 AG filed a lawsuit against the EU in international UN arbitration with claims of dishonest behavior by Europeans. First, in 2016–2017, with their guarantees and assurances of investment safety, they stimulated the construction of Nord Stream 2 by Russia. However, closer to the end of the construction cycle, they changed the rules of the game and said that Gazprom could not combine ownership of the energy infrastructure and the supply of fuel. According to Europe, this is too profitable and unsafe. European officials have adopted a number of documents covering "changing shoes in the air" in the time interval from the beginning of negotiations with Russia to the almost complete completion of construction.
Nord Stream 2 AG tried to win in court with a united Europe in its own EU Court of Justice, but lost last May. In the process, the European bureaucrats did not hesitate in choosing the means and hid part of their documents, confirming the correctness of Russia, under the heading "secret".
The judges of the International Arbitration Tribunal agreed with the constructive position of Nord Stream 2 AG and indicated that it is necessary to give everyone an opportunity to speak out on the claim, and then resolve procedural issues that the EU loves so much. All three judges were unanimous in this opinion. Several of the cited judgments of the EU Court of Justice against Nord Stream 2 AG did not impress the International Arbitration.

Consideration of the essence of the case on the claims of gas workers to the EU, the judges decided, will take place no earlier than March 2022.

[Rubi0]

Stop construction and pay billions of dollars for the transit of Ukraine to Poland for which they will also twist their arms every year under the Christmas tree? There are more variables than you think

[Tatyana]

Quote: Rubi0

Stop construction and pay billions of dollars for the transit of Ukraine to Poland for which they will also twist their arms every year under the Christmas tree? There are more variables than you think

I assure you that all these VARIABLES from the West are taken into account by Russia in one way or another!

[Xenofont]

Da Reuters argues that Gazprom is ready to suspend or temporarily suspend the completion of the pipeline due to political pressure. It looks like the situation is extremely tense.

[Polymer]

Quote: Tatiana

The outcry of protests in the West will begin immediately in the opposite direction!

Screams will start, but they will pay for expensive American LNG. And Russia will incur multi-billion dollar losses in this situation.
Can you imagine how much has already been invested in this SP-2? And you propose to simply forget all these investments at the bottom of the sea? Doubtful prospect! This is just a huge damage to the entire economy of the Russian Federation, which means that the United States will win another battle in an economic war.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Polymer

Can you imagine how much has already been invested in this SP-2? And you propose to simply forget all these investments at the bottom of the sea? Doubtful prospect! This is just a huge damage to the entire economy of the Russian Federation, which means that the United States will win another battle in an economic war.

I represent! But I do not have the psychology of a losing gambler at the table with cheaters, striving to make more and more huge bets in the hope of winning back!
Do you understand that because of greed, Russia can, "recouping", lose many times more - become an ABSOLUTELY complete BANKROT in the industry ?!
Normal people don't need this!
You need to have a cold and sane head in order to understand exactly when you need to stop in a losing business. Let the rivals cut their losses themselves! The main thing is not to let them profit from themselves further!

[Polymer]

Quote: Tatiana

But I do not have the psychology of a losing gambler at the table with cheaters, striving to make more and more huge bets in the hope of winning them back!

I do not think that the psychology of the "wise gudgeon" is much better here.
I am interested in another question. After all, the United States, in fact, is interfering in someone else's business with its sanctions. Normal business - not criminal, not military, is not prohibited by anyone. And Russia and Germany only express concern and regret. Can't you go to some kind of arbitration? And at the same time catch up with such a good information wave against the actions of the United States? Perhaps this SP-2 will never be completed, but at least there is a chance to win the information battle. For the sake of a reserve for the future.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Polymer

I do not think that the psychology of the "wise gudgeon" is much better here.

"Wise squeaker" has nothing to do with it! We are talking, to put it mildly, about the economic and political illiteracy of the liberals in the government of the Russian Federation. These people either have no idea, or deliberately only pretend that they do not understand what is so-called in the West. "market" economy, as such. Namely.

At the same time, Russian education in the country has long "sour". The bourgeois ideology of the American economist M. Friedman is no longer called "bourgeois", but is called abstractly class ideology simply "market" with elements of the so-called. "Monetarism" (i.e. bourgeois pursuit of financial profits).
However, the concept of real capitalism, with all its shortcomings, cannot be equated with the doctrinaire idea of ​​the American Milton Friedman in the form of a kind of speculative social project that is being implemented. to build a supposedly perfectly fair capitalism on Earth around the world... By what means?
Due to the alleged existence in the world of some anarchist absolutely "free" from everyone and every world market, which is supposedly absolutely "clean" from profanities and dishonesty both on the part of the participants in the capital market, goods (services) and labor, and from pressure on them a nation state. And at the same time, the author assumes that all market participants free from the state are initially at all times equal in their life start to each other and can always become rich if they just want it. This is pure utopia and bluff!
Behind this attempt by Milton Friedman to whitewash capitalism lies a very definite goal taken by Washington's apologists. Namely.
The purpose of this American bluff is to make the sovereign countries "indigenous" for the United States, uncontrollably and duty-free by their governments, mistakenly, free and defenseless from competition, open access for US multinational companies to their domestic markets for the sale of foreign goods and the purchase of "indigenous" wealth by foreigners , enterprises and natural resources.
In this case, reduction of native state property in the maximum - to "0" - is promoted by the "market people" exclusively as a public good. For the state supposedly does not need to control anything, there is no need to punish anyone, and there is no need to regulate trade and production either. That at the same time all members of society will become such honest and law-abiding entrepreneurs that therefore it will no longer be necessary to protect the population from swindlers, thieves, robbers and murderers. And therefore supposedly the national state, as an anachronism, will disappear by itself as unnecessary, and there is no need to defend it at all. For the distribution of material goods "from above" at the state level is not required, andmore everything will be regulated by this "ideal" capitalist market. Ну and those who did not fit into the market are already their problems. Let, they say, they survive on their own, as they can. These include in particular all the so-called. "superfluous" people: pensioners, disabled people, children, etc. - all those who "did not fit into the market." But they should be "happy" with their freedom from the centuries-old, fattening abstract-bureaucratic state, which has always been dreamed of by the anarchists for centuries.

TOTAL. This whole ideology of Milton Friedman about the alleged existence of the so-called. "free" and "clean" market iis an anarchist propaganda of the American establishment to disintegrate the national security of sovereign states to their complete elimination and subjugation of their resources in favor of US multinational companies.
Unfortunately, this ideology has been unofficially adopted by the Russian ruling elite as a state ideology. It is implemented in practice by the government of the Russian Federation, the guarantor of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, in the State Duma and the Federation Council. And the HSE is the forge of bourgeois young cadres in this comprador economy and its apologists.

Quote: Polymer

Can't you go to some kind of arbitration? And at the same time catch up with such a good information wave against the actions of the United States? Perhaps this SP-2 will never be completed, but at least there is a chance to win the information battle. For the sake of a reserve for the future.

For the sake of a reserve for the future, first of all, in order to really understand the situation what's what, at least to abandon the delusional-provocative ideology of M. Friedman about the alleged existence of the so-called. "free" and "clean" markets for capital, goods and labor.

REFERENCE
Compradorism (Spanish comprador buyer) is a way of doing business in which profit is derived from activities that undermine its national economy and reduce its ability to grow and ...

[Polymer]

Thank you for a brief insight into "Friedman's ideology". But giving up on it is a long and difficult journey. And I agree that we must move along this path. Any road, as you know, begins with the first step, and consists of these steps. So here I am just about this small first step. Where do you have to start?

[Tatyana]

Quote: Polymer

I am interested in another question. After all, the United States, in fact, is interfering in someone else's business with its sanctions. Normal business - not criminal, not military, is not prohibited by anyone. And Russia and Germany only express concern and regret. Can't you go to some kind of arbitration? And at the same time catch up with such a good information wave against the actions of the United States? Perhaps this SP-2 will never be completed, but at least there is a chance to win the information battle. For the sake of a reserve for the future.

Russia can apply to international courts as much as it wants - the results will still be according to M. Friedman!
At the same time, Russia has lost time for 30 years already, living by American colonial rules in the backyard of the collective capitalist West.

[Polymer]

Quote: Tatiana

Russia can apply to international courts as much as it wants - the results will still be according to M. Friedman!

I understand that the court's decision will still not be in favor of the Russian Federation. But if from the very beginning this appeal is accompanied by a wide information campaign, then it is possible to win an information tactical victory.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Polymer

I understand that the court's decision will still not be in favor of the Russian Federation. But if from the very beginning this appeal is accompanied by a broad information campaign, then it is possible to win an information tactical victory..

The trouble is that the Internet, as a powerful tool for the world's media, does not belong to Russia.
The domestic Russian market does not have its own Internet sites that can compete with Google and Facebook, just as there is no normal software that can replace Android or iOS.
All technologies are tied to global control: "Facebook is the NSA, Google is the CIA." And they control and censor all information around the world, including the Russian Federation.
Russia is not a sovereign country in this matter.And even Trump, as president of the United States, turned out to be not sovereign from the owners of these companies, as we witnessed quite recently, when Trump was disconnected from the Internet.

Moreover, unlike China, where there are more than 1,5 billion users, it is simply unprofitable for Russian companies to produce software for domestic consumption.

As a result, Russia will continue to lose the information war to the United States and the collective West.

[Polymer]

Quote: Tatiana

it is simply unprofitable for Russian companies to produce software for domestic consumption.

Well, this isn't about profitability. System programs are developed, as a rule, for "their own hardware", which is practically not produced in Russia. In addition, these system programs will have to be easily compatible with the global network - but here already "honest" competitors, who have long seized this market, will definitely not let rise.
And other application programs in Russia have been developed and sold for a long time, there are no problems here.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Polymer

system programs will have to be easily compatible with the global network - but here already "honest" competitors, who have long captured this market, will definitely not allow

Here I am about the same!

[antivirus]

worse than bad --- the USA and the EU share the market for gas and other carriers - we are waiting for the decision of Germany.
but something is not being built on Sakhalin - Chersky was expelled from there, and others could be useful there.
Any politician is more flexible than the world champion in rhythmic gymnastics.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Temples

Barge sanctions!

Normal-normal, according to their alternative logic. The next step will be sanctions for pipes and fittings, the entire range will be brought under execution. And after the completion of the construction of the SP-2, sanctions will be imposed on the entire water area adjacent to the pipeline, along with all the flora and fauna - these will become magical. Tellingly, this freak show has a precedent from ancient history: yes, the same Xerxes who ordered the sea to be carved and chained. Well, the uncle was angry at the reservoir for the Persian fleet destroyed by the storm. And now, after millennia, the royal tyrant did have followers.

[Serpet]

Quote: Temples

Barge sanctions!

The hegemon is blown away. Apart from sanctions, there are no more methods left.

[Tatyana]

China would have done it simply in the place of Russia in response to the US sanctions pressure on the RF and EU countries. Namely.
China would build its own gas and oil refineries in the Russian Federation itself and reduce European imports of carbon-processed goods from European countries. For European industrialists, this will be a big disadvantage in their profits and they must force their governments to step up against the pressure on their countries and on Russia from Washington.

To do this, Russia simply needs to announce that the project for the construction of "SP-2" because of the US sanctions policy, Russia intends to CLOSE and "SP_2" will not complete construction! Like, let Europe pay for expensive American gas.
Screams in the West will start in the opposite direction!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Tatiana

To do this, Russia simply needs to announce that the project for the construction of "SP-2" because of the US sanctions policy, Russia intends to CLOSE and "SP_2" will not complete construction! Screams in the West will start in the opposite direction!

Already announced.

The Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline project may be suspended or even completely curtailed due to political pressure. This is stated in the prospectus of Gazprom's Eurobonds, which was reviewed by Reuters.

The company first spoke about the failure of the landmark gas pipeline, although it still intends to complete its construction "as soon as reasonably possible."

https://lenta.ru/news/2021/01/19/kak_zhe_tak/?utm_campaign=breaking-news&utm_medium=browser-notification&utm_source=push-notification

[Tatyana]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Already announced.

The Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline project may be suspended or even completely curtailed due to political pressure. This is stated in the prospectus of Gazprom's Eurobonds, which was reviewed by Reuters
The company first started talking about the failure of the landmark gas pipeline, although it still intends to complete its construction "as soon as reasonably possible."

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They did it right!
And Russia needs to replicate this statement of the Russian Federation in the West in European countries until they lose their heart rate!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Tatiana

before they lose their heart rate.

No matter how we lose our pulse. If the construction of the stream is stopped, such a mountain of fines will fall on Gazprom that it is scary to think. Can you guess who will compensate for Miller's salary, and their unfinished lawyers? In-in ...

[Tatyana]

Quote: Mordvin 3

No matter how we lose our pulse. If the construction of the stream is stopped, such a mountain of fines will fall on Gazprom that it is scary to think. Can you guess who will compensate for Miller's salary, and their unfinished lawyers? In-in ...

At first. Promising to marry does not necessarily mean getting married.
And secondly. In this case, we are talking about force majeure (that is, force majeure circumstances) that allow the Russian Federation / Gazprom to terminate this agreement on the construction of SP-2 for Russia without consequences due to US sanctions. Namely.

Force majeure (force majeure) is extraordinary and unavoidable circumstances under specific conditions that make it impossible to properly fulfill the obligation (clause 3, article 401 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation).
According to paragraph 3 of Art. 401 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation, force majeure is the basis for the release of a person not fulfilling or improperly fulfilling the obligation in the course of entrepreneurial activity, from liability, unless otherwise provided by law or contract. It means that The debtor-entrepreneur, the proper performance of whose obligations was impossible due to force majeure, should not, for example, compensate for losses or pay a penalty.

REFERENCE
The word "force majeure" was formed in business practice and is used to denote force majeure or force majeure circumstances (force majeure). The word "force majeure" itself was probably borrowed from the transcription of the English or French word "force majeure" (force majeure - French force majeure, English force majeure).
From a practical point of view the terms "force majeure" and "force majeure" are identical.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Tatiana

(force majeure).

Are the US sanctions precisely related to force majeure? Or is it just blackmail, for your own benefit ?!

[Tatyana]

Quote from Uncle Lee

Are the US sanctions precisely related to force majeure?

The attitude is exactly the same as the declaration of war on Russia by Washington and the collective West!

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Tatiana

war!

War has not yet been declared! Until ! And this is an ordinary grater for sales markets! Capitalism, however .. And we are in it for the tonsils!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Tatiana

This means that the debtor-entrepreneur, the proper performance of whose obligations was impossible due to force majeure, should not, for example, compensate for losses or pay a penalty.

So we are already reimbursing everything. The pipe was drowned in the sea, but it does not work, it rusts with chopiks at the ends. And the cost of this useless pipe is quite high.

[Tatyana]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: Tatiana

This means that the debtor is an entrepreneur, the proper performance of whose obligations was impossible due to force majeure, MUST NOT, for example, reimburse damages or pay a forfeit.

So we are already reimbursing everything. The pipe was drowned in the sea, but it does not work, it rusts with chopiks at the ends. And the cost of this useless pipe is quite high.

And what do you suggest?
Are you suggesting that Gazprom continue to build up Russia's losses further, or should it stop in time?
Don't you understand that war has been declared on Russia ?! And that a hot war is very close ahead!
If there is a hot war, then you can put an end to the SP!
Why, before a HOT war, would Russia even bazaar with the aggressors with its strategic means?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Tatiana

And what do you suggest?

It is necessary to stop feeding them with gas altogether. And it is necessary, as Stalin bequeathed, to run four five-year plans, otherwise they will crush us. We are humiliated, and we feed them with gas? Well, at least some kind of respect should be had for yourself though. Otherwise, no one will respect us either.

[private person]

It is necessary to stop feeding them with gas altogether.

So it is of course you are right BUT where the government will take the money, because they themselves killed the entire industry. Costo yarmak sait?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: private person

So it is of course you are right BUT where the government will take the money, because they themselves killed the entire industry. Costo yarmak sait?

Recover, by itself. Buy machines from the Chinese and build. Ugh! But in the 50s, our engineers built an auto industry for them. A copy of the ZiS plant, more alive than all living things, 120 thousand people plow on it, produces dozens of models. And we lost ours. We buy the same thing with a corn plant, AN-2 in China. Back in the early 90s, the Chinese smuggled our izhaks in mattresses, and now we buy some toy mopeds from them.

[private person]

Recover, by itself. Buy machines from the Chinese and build.

They have been demolishing for 25 years, but then how long will we build? Now we have everything in private property and the owners are abroad. A raw material appendage was made from Russia.

[Avior]

If the construction of the flow is stopped, such a mountain of fines will fall on Gazprom that it is scary to think.

actually even worse.
Gas will have to be pumped through the Ukrainian GTS. There will be no fines. but also delight from this too

[Olgovich]

Quote: Uncle Lee

В Germany said they "regret" the imposition of sanctions

And express concern!

Theater of the absurd: americana the side will take all necessary steps to stop Nord Stream 2, which represents Threat national interests of European allies , and the allies themselves ... WANT this "threat" and the pipe.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Uncle Lee

Germany said they "regret" the imposition of sanctions

And express concern!

This is the prerogative of our Foreign Ministry.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: lis-ik

prerogative

When you can't specifically punch in, you express concern ...

[Thrall]

Hearing United States of America v. Barge

[Asad]

Laughter is certainly good, but what if sanctions on ports are introduced? Will it be forbidden to ship pipes?

[Cosm22]

Everything is much more complicated.
How the sanctions against Fortuna will operate is really not clear. Here Gazprom has insured itself.
However, this is not the point.
To continue the completion of the construction, certification documents are needed for the production of such works and guarantees from insurance companies. These are the new sanctions that may hit them. Details are not yet known, let's wait.
What is known reliably today?
Alas, there is no good news on the project. Absolutely.
1. It is known that "Chersky" for some reason only known to him disappeared from the field of vision altogether. We can only assume that the allegedly installed (by no one knows where and who knows where) new equipment for laying pipes of a large diameter cannot receive permits for operation. Without this, all attempts to modernize Chersky are in vain.
2. It is known that the Swiss insurance company Zurich Insurance Group AG decided to stop providing insurance services related to the Nord Stream -2 gas pipeline due to the threat of US sanctions. It was her insurance plans that covered the construction of the SP-2 gas pipeline.
3. It is known that the certifying Norwegian company Det Norske Veritas Holding AS and the Danish engineering company Ramboll left the project even earlier.
4. It is known that in Germany the Social Democrats are most actively lobbying for SP-2. Those. the pipe must be completed and commissioned by the end of September, because they have practically no chance of getting into the majority of the Bundestag. On the contrary, the Greens are more likely to enter into a coalition with conservatives. And all these special funds are the same fig leaf as the epic with the leapfrog owners of "Fortune".
5. The point of view of Artem Tuzov, executive director of the capital market department of the investment company "Univer Capital", is well known. Which in plain text justifies the impossibility of completing the pipe. According to the expert, "Fortuna" cannot be the main vessel in the remaining section. The pipelayer is adapted for work in shallow water (up to 30 m), therefore it worked only in German waters, in shallow water. As for the "Chersky", which was supposed to work at greater depths, then "due to the withdrawal of the Norwegian certification company DNV GL from the project in the fall of 2020," Academician Chersky "did not receive the necessary permits to work in Danish waters. according to European rules, construction cannot be started, "the expert noted.
5. It is known that if sanctions against "Fortune", in particular, will be introduced on January 19, then this will be the first time when it becomes clear that the States have switched from words to deeds on the basis of the Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA). It is becoming clear that the United States will not stop there. And Biden's attitude to SP-2 is well known.
6. Finally, the following is known. Yesterday environmentalists in Germany managed to halt the construction of SP-2. They appealed against the permission of the Federal Maritime and Hydrographic Agency to work in the economic zone of Germany, this permission was temporarily suspended. The federal agency has already confirmed that the previously issued work permit has been temporarily suspended.
To summarize: the severity of the copper basin, which covered the SP-2, becomes clearly overwhelming.

[businessv]

Quote: Cosm22

To continue the completion of the construction, certification documents are needed for the production of such works and guarantees from insurance companies.

So the article just clearly states this:

It should be noted that the Fortuna pipe-laying barge is the main vessel for completing the remaining section of the gas pipeline, which received all the necessary documents and permits to continue work both in German waters and in the Danish section.

[Cosm22]

Check out the performance characteristics of the Fortune equipment.
It is desirable from several sources.

[avg]

Hearing United States of America v. Barge

The prosecutor asks for 3 life sentences. The judge seems to be "For", but does not know how much it will be in numbers ...

[Ka-52]

will not work due to the repeated change of the owner of the vessel. The option of a new change of owner immediately after the introduction of sanctions is not excluded.

our fucking screw for the next American opa with thread

[NDR-791]

Washington has already warned Germany and other European partners of its intention to impose sanctions on the Russian pipelayer and its owner.
Yes, they would have found some homeless person Vasya Pupkin and registered him as a private trader. He vaschsche all the same, and amers trouble.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: NDR-791

Yes, they would have found some homeless person Vasya Pupkin and registered him as a private trader.

Yes, it seems that the article says so

The new owner of the vessel is now KBT-Rus LLC with one employee on staff,

Minus not mine

[antivirus]

do you think cons? for your personal position - you also need to please someone? What is the meaning of freedom of speech in your opinion?

[NDR-791]

do you think cons?
No, Sergei and I don't consider the cons, we don't care True, we sometimes put it, but only for outright stupidity

[antivirus]

and a different opinion about the ways of the country's development? and army-navy? Do teachers write "mom" on the board correctly? I'm talking about my own - for "AB 10pcs, 100 000VI"

[NDR-791]

"AB 10pcs each 100VI"
So I am categorically against it, but this does not mean that I put a minus, because at least some arguments can be heard from you. And basically, summarizing two arguments, they represent - And so that bulo !!! and they have, than we are worse !!! These are not arguments, these are slogans. And so here you can get a minus just for a request to explain or clarify something.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: NDR-791

True, we sometimes put it, but only for outright stupidity

In order not to relax

[Lipchanin]

Quote: antivirus

do you think cons?

No, I don't think so

for your personal position - you also need to please someone?

I'm not a red girl.
I respect this person and do not want him to think about me differently.
On those who put cons to me
i just spit

what is the meaning of freedom of speech in your opinion?

In freedom of speech

[private person]

our fuck with a screw on another lol American opa with thread

Well, what's the catch? The owners of the ship change, the ships ply the sea, and things are still there. The construction is worth it and let them shout as much as you want that the sanctions do not work BUT the construction is worth it. In Russia, in order to avoid taxes, such a scheme works with a change of owners and names, and then something else needs to be done.

[Thrall]

Quote: private person

then something else needs to be done

It is necessary to confuse the enemy:
I propose to rename the Poseidon nuclear drone to Nord Stream-2, and the Fortune barge to Poseidon.

[Ka-52]

Well, what's the catch?

do not understand jokes?

The construction is worth it and let them shout as much as you want that the sanctions do not work BUT the construction costs.

the standing of the construction site is not connected with sanctions. Permission from both Germany and Denmark is

[Fitter65]

Quote: Ka-52

the standing of the construction site is not connected with sanctions. Permission from both Germany and Denmark is

So explain to us who are not intelligent, why then the construction site has stopped, if there is a permit for this construction? Again the unexpected spawning of cod, or is the migration of the Baltic shrimp passing through the gas pipeline?

[Ka-52]

So explain to us who are not intelligent, why then the construction site has stopped, if there is a permit for this construction? Again the unexpected spawning of cod, or is the migration of the Baltic shrimp passing through the gas pipeline?

everything is simple. Liberoids like you got so hot from below that a local ecological catastrophe occurred waiting for your badherd to let go

[Fitter65]

Quote: Ka-52

will not work due to the repeated change of the owner of the vessel. The option of a new change of owner immediately after the introduction of sanctions is not excluded.

our fucking screw for the next American opa with thread

Alas, but yours

Quote: Ka-52

horseradish with screw

turned out to be weak against

Quote: Ka-52

American experience with carving

https://news.mail.ru/economics/44929467/?frommail=1

Gazprom has warned that the Nord Stream 2 project may be postponed or suspended due to political pressure, Reuters reports, citing the prospectus for the placement of Eurobonds.

Bench press

[Ka-52]

Gazprom has warned that the Nord Stream 2 project may be postponed or suspended due to political pressure, Reuters reports, citing the prospectus for the placement of Eurobonds.

Bench press

here's something for your joy

[Fitter65]

Quote: Ka-52

here's something for your joy

Personally, this does not make me happy, just as literate people say

Quote: lis-ik

sucks to be a raw material appendage

[Ka-52]

Personally, I don't have any joy from this,

you're lying as usual. If there is no joy, then why are these emoticons under the news about the suspension of work on Sevpotok?

Gazprom has warned that the Nord Stream 2 project may be postponed or suspended due to political pressure, Reuters reports, citing the prospectus for the placement of Eurobonds.
Bench press

sucks to be a raw material appendage

Norway and Saudi Arabia are not very embarrassed about the title of a raw material appendage)) this template from the manual does not work

[Fitter65]

Quote: Ka-52

you're lying as usual. If there is no joy, then why are these emoticons under the news about the suspension of work on Sevpotok?

Do not judge by yourself if you yourself like to lie. And there is no joy, like regret, because there are such "Effective managers" that out of the blue, billions are distributed to the left and to the right. And whether SP-2 is built or not, nothing will change for the better for the common man.

Quote: Ka-52

Norway and Saudi Arabia are not very embarrassed by the title of a raw material appendage))

Of course, they are not embarrassed if you look at how many raw materials a citizen has from the sale of raw materials.

Quote: Ka-52

the template from the manual does not work

he just breaks your brain. From the fact that you are here to spoil the uryapatriot, the Russian Federation from this will not be respected more strongly. The same Norway allows itself to treat Russia as a third world country, then it will arrest our fishermen, then it will do some other dirty trick, and in response only PshIK. Because what? That's right, because PWM-PWM. A couple more funny emoticons ...

[Ka-52]

Do not judge by yourself if you yourself like to lie. And there is no joy, like regret

an attempt to move the arrows to me is not accepted. I pointed out to you specifically your giggling under the article about the work stoppage. And after that you write

Personally, this does not make me happy

which is just the opposite by definition. What kind of logic is this not a lie?

Of course, they are not embarrassed if you look at how many raw materials a citizen has from the sale of raw materials.

That is, if you have caviar on a piece of bread from the sale of hydrocarbons, then the long-standing thesis of liberoids

sucks to be a raw material appendage

won't work? Are you then satisfied with the skewed economy and its dependence on market fluctuations?

From the fact that you are here to spoil the Uryapatriot

hello there ... If I called you a liar, did I immediately become a Uryapatriot? Have you tried just writing weighted estimates? what is impartiality heard though?

[Fitter65]

Quote: Ka-52

I pointed out to you specifically your giggling under the article about the work stoppage.

And where did you get the idea that I giggle? I really laugh at these statements, then all Eurosoz is for our gas, then it turns out not. And laughing does not always mean rejoicing. Well, you can't understand this, but explain it to scrap.

Quote: Ka-52

That is, if you have caviar on a piece of bread from the sale of hydrocarbons, then the long-standing thesis of liberoids

Caviar does not fall on my piece of bread, it happens that sometimes it falls off my honestly earned piece of bread. Well, these are not your problems anymore.

Quote: Ka-52

Have you tried just writing weighted estimates? what is impartiality heard though?

I write what I think. and if I don’t like that our "effective managers" have spent billions of dollars, it’s not clear what, they still cannot show their teeth for this money, because we press-bench. Suddenly, "our" deposits in foreign banks will be arrested, deprived of movable property, they will be banned from traveling outside Russia, where they pour money into various economies.

Quote: Ka-52

Are you then satisfied with the skewed economy and its dependence on market fluctuations?

I'm not sure about fluctuations, it's more like sluggish frictions ... This is a verified and balanced assessment, if you don't agree, you can complain about me to the league of sexual reforms, let them tell you how great everything is in our country, and I so I see, live.

[Ka-52]

Well, you don't understand this, but explain it to scrap.

heh what a presumptuous attempt to cover up your niglizhe

Caviar does not fall on my piece of bread, it happens that sometimes it falls off my honestly earned piece of bread. Well, these are not your problems anymore.

off the question? Expected What, there were no answers in the training manual?

I write what I think. and if I don’t like that our "effective managers" have spent billions of dollars, it’s not clear what, they still cannot show their teeth for this money, because we press-bench. Suddenly, "our" deposits in foreign banks will be arrested, deprived of movable property, they will be banned from traveling outside Russia, where they pour money into various economies.

Let's also tell how a crocodile is not caught, a coconut does not grow. what have all these sobs of yours got to do with it? We are discussing another issue, not "effective" managers

I'm not sure about fluctuations, it's more like sluggish frictions.

that in your alternate universe there are no fluctuations in hydrocarbon prices? Lucky

you can complain about me to the sexual reform league

unlike you, I am not a member of it. Will not accept complaints from me about you

let them tell you how wonderful everything is in our country, and I can see it live.

Again, I ask the question: how does this resonate with the topic under discussion? You are carried from side to side, you have told a lot about what, but not about what I asked. Very informative discussion. You are a straight real politician

[Fitter65]

Quote: Ka-52

We are discussing another issue, not "effective" managers

And what question are we discussing? Which one? That

Quote: lis-ik

Gazprom is already officially blown away. I repeat once again, it sucks to be a raw material appendage.

So this is no longer a question, but a statement of fact

Quote: Ka-52

there are no fluctuations in hydrocarbon prices in your alternate universe?

There is no hesitation, we only have steady growth. The prices for gasoline and gas for Russian consumers, following the world prices for hydrocarbons, did not go down last year, although the price of gas (Russian) was lower on the London Stock Exchange than in Russia.

Quote: Ka-52

you talked about a lot, but not about what I asked.

Yes, you did not ask, you happily blew into a puddle. That you have something there for some American part of the body, Well, where is this find of yours? I certainly appreciated

Quote: Ka-52

the standing of the construction site is not connected with sanctions. Permission from both Germany and Denmark is

So what is standing with? Do I ask you a question again?

Quote: Ka-52

Will not accept complaints from me about you

I know, because I send all complainants to a distant cordon.

Quote: Ka-52

... You are a straight real politician

Much better than a politician ...

[Ka-52]

And what question are we discussing? Which one? That

you do not get too carried away with waving the cap from the podium - you lose the conversation. Of you, the leader of the revolution is useless. And you won't surprise me with slogans from the manuals

There is no hesitation, we only have steady growth. The prices for gasoline and gas for Russian consumers, following the world prices for hydrocarbons, did not go down last year, although the price of gas (Russian) was lower on the London Stock Exchange than in Russia.

Lenin called people like you a very specific word, and Putin introduced the word about ladies whose social responsibility is not at a high level. What does domestic prices have to do with it ????????? If the concept of "raw material appendage" lies in the context export of hydrocarbons? Do you have the ability to think independently, without falling into the templates of manuals ????

So what is standing with? Do I ask you a question again?

ask Miller a question. Why the sanctions pressure has been overcome, and the construction has not started yet.

I know, because I send all complainants to a distant cordon.

ahh, it turns out you are the president of this league of sexual reform well, since it is you there who determine who is guilty and who is not, then I wash my hands

Much better than a politician ...

all politicians are talkers and nothing more. Now your main merit is clear. It's good that they confessed, otherwise at the beginning I was expecting a meaningful and reasoned conversation from you

[Tzar]

Read to the end, they wrote it because these are formal requirements for risk management.

Since Gazprom is a public company, it is obliged to warn investors about possible risks before placing debt securities. This is exactly what the document says, which at the same time contains a clause about exceptional circumstances under which the project will be stopped.
If they come, then, as the Russian gas monopoly admitted, it may be required to pay compensation - fines, cancellation fees and other payments. There may also be a need to create substantial reserves to contain the depreciation of investments.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Ka-52

shit with a screw on another American threaded opa

Yeah, Gazprom is officially blown away. I repeat once again, it sucks to be a raw material appendage.

[Nikolay1987]

Judging by the latest news, we cannot be a raw materials appendage without permission.

[Roman070280]

Gazprom spoke about freezing Sevpotok-2

The Russian company has warned potential investors about the risks of completing the pipeline.
Gazprom admits suspension or complete termination of the project Nord Stream 2 "due to political pressure." This is stated in the prospectus of the company's Eurobonds, writes Reuters.

The company, which on Tuesday, January 19, entered the capital market with dollar loans, warned potential investors about the risks that it may face in the foreseeable future.

“In the implementation of our large international projects, such as the Turkish Stream and Nord Stream-2, we have faced and continue to face risks associated with the changing political situation in different regions, which leads to tensions between countries and a change in the positions of our partners and regulators on in relation to various aspects of projects.In some cases, such changes may lead to the fact that the implementation of the project will become impossible or impractical, and therefore lead to the suspension or cancellation of the project", - the document says.

[Nikolay1987]

We must not forget to write out millions of bonuses to Gazprom managers. They tried.

And Putin recalled that many more in the Russian Federation are not supplied with gas and must be developed within the country .... and at the same time raise tariffs for the population in order to compensate for the losses.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Nikolay1987

And Putin recalled that many more in the Russian Federation are not supplied with gas and must be developed inside the country ... and at the same time raise tariffs for the population in order to compensate for losses

Miller today triumphantly reported that work on "Power of Siberia 2" is being prepared, there is no limit to human greed, it is time to end up a lot of money.

[Flooding]

Everything is fine.
The invisible hand of the market.

[avg]

The next boat will be Peter 1.

[zwlad]

We'll have to drown. Sanctions can no longer cope.

[prior]

Well, if Nord Stream-2, through which not a single cubic meter of gas has yet flowed, poses a threat to the national interests of the European allies, then what harm should the pipeline through Ukraine do to them!
Urgently - block, ban, blow up, destroy ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: prior

Urgently - block, ban, blow up, destroy ...

And that is reasonable!

[tralflot1832]

They can take sanctions on the port of Fortuna, they will have to carry it from Kaliningrad. To stop construction they have to take "military measures" and they are already afraid of that. about their attempts, about the hole and the whistle !!!

[Cosm22]

To stop construction, it must first be continued. Do you know how to do it without certification and insurance documents?
Then urgently in the cohort of analysts of the Russian government. They have been waiting for you there for a long time.

[ZEMCH]

Quote: Cosm22

To stop construction, it must first be continued. Do you know how to do it without certification and insurance documents?
Then urgently in the cohort of analysts of the Russian government. They have been waiting for you there for a long time.

Now Russian companies receive documents for the right to certify and insure))), therefore the delay

[A1845]

impose sanctions on the Russian pipelayer

unlucky barge
she will now be banned from entering the states

[private person]

she will now be banned from entering the states

And not only to the states, but to all European ports.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: private person

And not only to the states, but to all European ports.

May be banned from flying to Mars

[private person]

May be banned from flying to Mars

HA-HA-HA! Not funny. The partners quickly faded.

[Roman070280]

Well, why did they immediately disappear ..))

In Germany, they said they "regret" the imposition of sanctions against the ship "Fortune" and "Nord Stream-2".

[tihonmarine]

Quote: A1845

unlucky barge
she will now be banned from entering the states

The barge is crying, opened two fire hydrants and sobs in two jets.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: tihonmarine

and sobs in two streams.

Apart from small splashes

[silverwolf88]

it's not even funny anymore ... they still need to impose sanctions against the crew of the pipelayer ... support boats ... helicopters that land on it and pipes that are laid to the bottom ... as well as marine life for not resisting pipes ...
in general, this is an example of an aggressive struggle for markets with complete disregard for any laws and common sense

[tihonmarine]

Quote: silberwolf88

it's not even funny anymore ... they still need to impose sanctions against the crew of the pipelayer ... support boats

Well, if sanctions are being imposed against a barge, an inanimate object, then what can we say about people? I think only our democrats did not understand what "American democracy" is, but even the iron barge understood it.

[Warrior05]

And ... a bolt on them!
The main thing is how they care about the "national interests of European allies" ..... hypocrites!
The ally themselves are in shock, it turns out it is for their good.

[APASUS]

I don't understand at all how the sanctions of the US Department of Defense budget can be directed against one barge

[Quadro]

100 bucks per paper, where there will be sanctions, and the rest to the poorer senators and the secretary of defense.

[bar]

Suddenly. And quite unexpectedly.

[Victorio]

yes, madhouse. there is no way to report more than a hundred kilometers. Such are the "partners" of Gazprom

[Roman070280]

They didn't abandon us at all .. they expressed regret ..))

In Germany, they said they "regret" the imposition of sanctions against the ship "Fortune" and "Nord Stream-2".

[AlexVas44]

Quote: silberwolf88

in general, this is an example of an aggressive struggle for markets with complete disregard for any laws and common sense

Disregard for laws is complete, but common sense is not. It's just that common sense, as such, is completely absent. It's just that the United States can be compared to the world hyena, although this is not news either.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

The new owner of the vessel is now KBT-Rus LLC with one employee in the staff

Make this the only employee of some transgender, preferably also black. One could enchantingly troll the USA.

[rotmistr60]

Sanctions on the right and the left indiscriminately, the main thing is that Russia is mentioned and American goods dominate the world market. When the "hegemons" of the premature are already choking on these sanctions.

[mojohed2012]

Funny - not funny, BUT: 19.01.2021/2/2 Gazprom published a resolution addressed to the shareholders of Nordstream XNUMX, according to which it "suggested", "warned" that Nord Stream XNUMX could die completely due to US sanctions. And therefore: it is necessary to form reserves for penalties to shareholders and other recipients.

If the flow is stopped and it is bent, we will become poorer, because reparations for this economic defeat in the war with the US for the EU market, we have lost and our government will again compensate for the losses at the expense of the peasants and workers.

[Ros 56]

Yes, in the coffin we saw these striped ones together with their sanctions, in white slippers. They are so stupid with impunity and their own stupidity that they no longer know where else to get in.
I would advise them, but it will be very rude.

[Sergey39]

Something all sharply concentrated on "Fortune", but about "Chersky" completely forgotten.

[abrakadabre]

The option of a new change of owner immediately after the introduction of sanctions is not excluded.

Why are they soaring there? Nationalize the barge and put it on the balance sheet of the pipeline troops of the Russian Federation. Raise the St. Andrew's flag on it. And contracts with contractors and suppliers should be drawn up through the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. At the same time, provide an escort from the patrolmen.

[Guru]

Well, to what extent has "Progress", or degradation, reached, the United States has already announced sanctions to the Barge, insanity is growing stronger.

[musorg]

However, Trump left a gift when leaving. On the bunk of his democrats, let him sit and clear his brains!

[helloween]

Gazprom has already announced the suspension of the project and its possible closure. So we finished playing !!!
It would be necessary to call to account those who yelled - we will finish building ourselves, we are army !!!!
“In the implementation of our major international projects, such as the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, we have faced and may continue to face risks associated with a change in the political situation in various regions associated with such projects. In exceptional circumstances, including due to political pressure, such changes may lead to the suspension or termination of the project "

[Quadro]

And where are we, dumbass? Neither the FRG nor the other Europeans fought in any way and put their tongues in Biden's wife, for whose election, by the way, they prayed with the hope that he would be forgotten. It was not Gazprom that played badly, spineless Europeans who do not care about the money of large companies, at the expense of which they eat from kickbacks.

[Whirlwind]

Direct fight between David and Goliath, until the giant gets in the forehead, does not calm down.
Everything goes to that ...

[businessv]

The Russian pipe-laying barge Fortuna and its owner will be subject to US sanctions on Nord Stream 2. This was reported by the German edition Handelsblatt, citing sources.

And what, on GAZPROM itself, or another specialized state-owned enterprise, it was impossible to issue this ship? Why are our interested companies so afraid of sanctions? Is it because - for them the West is "our everything"? So much already this idiot drags on that instead of anger you experience fun, like in a circus! Where did the "Academician Chersky" go, who was predicted to be the main handlers and who dodged along the seas and oceans for almost a year? After the imposition of sanctions, will the barge cease to be a barge? The provision of the stacker can be established directly from Russia, by military support courts, and mattress-like ones cannot deliver other problems. Where did the political will and the state itself go, which used to solve such issues at the snap of its fingers ?! Although, then it was really a State, which was considered, although sanctions were also applied, but they did not affect either foreign policy or the state of citizens. Maybe it's time for our authorities to take care of building a strong state, and not preserving the well-being of the oligarchs and his inner circle? Maybe it is worth revising privatization and returning to the state all its strategic enterprises and resources, so that they finally work for the state itself? Sorry for the many letters, colleagues! All with the Baptism of Christ, all good health, prosperity and success in all respects!

[alesmart]

Quote: Tatiana

China would have done it simply in the place of Russia in response to the US sanctions pressure on the RF and EU countries. Namely.
China would build its own gas and oil refineries in the Russian Federation itself and reduce European imports of carbon-processed goods from European countries. For European industrialists, this will be a big disadvantage in their profits and they must force their governments to step up against the pressure on their countries and on Russia from Washington.

To do this, Russia simply needs to declare that the project for the construction of "SP-2" because of the US sanctions policy Russia intends to CLOSE and "SP-2" will not be completed! Like, we agree: let Europe pay for expensive American gas instead of cheap Russian gas.
The outcry of protests in the West will begin immediately in the opposite direction!
These are the rules in psychology.

Screams will not start, because no one will hear them.

[Roman070280]

Gazprom spoke about freezing Sevpotok-2

The Russian company has warned potential investors about the risks of completing the pipeline.
Gazprom admits suspension or complete termination of the project Nord Stream 2 "due to political pressure." This is stated in the prospectus of the company's Eurobonds, writes Reuters.

The company, which on Tuesday, January 19, entered the capital market with dollar loans, warned potential investors about the risks that it may face in the foreseeable future.

“In the implementation of our large international projects, such as the Turkish Stream and Nord Stream-2, we have faced and continue to face risks associated with the changing political situation in different regions, which leads to tensions between countries and a change in the positions of our partners and regulators on in relation to various aspects of projects.In some cases, such changes may lead to the fact that the implementation of the project will become impossible or impractical, and therefore lead to the suspension or cancellation of the project", - the document says.

[Roman070280]

Yes uzhzhzh ..
Whatever they say, but the states are great .. they know how to get their way !!

However, if in our government there are the same people as here on the forum .. who even look in the eyes - they confidently shout that the SP-2 will still be completed .. you just need to swing a saber harder ..
That is not surprising ..

[Guru]

the same as here on the forum ..

What are these here on the forum? You sir, be careful with comparisons.

[ALARI]

Let us remind you that on December 18, 2020 "Fortuna" once again changed its owner. According to the entry in the Russian International Register of Vessels (RMRS), the vessel was transferred from one Russian micro-enterprise to another. The new owner of the vessel is now KBT-Rus LLC with one employee in the staff
-It is interesting how these gestures correlate with Russian legislation, it does not smell of fraudulent actions. Or is this leg who needs a leg?

[svoit]

Quote: Tatiana

They did it right!
And Russia needs to replicate this statement of the Russian Federation

So there is no political pressure, there is only economic pressure, it is necessary to build, and at the same time raise gas prices in order to compensate for the shortage. Show the United States once again that their sanctions are only of interest to their domestic public, and to others only as toilet paper

[cniza]

The new owner of the vessel is now KBT-Rus LLC with one employee in the state, which bought the barge from Universal Transport Group LLC, which, in turn, purchased the vessel from the Hong Kong Strategic Mileage in early October 2020.

Not a bad option, the United States is tortured to apply sanctions ...

[Xenofont]

Toothless and asexual Europoids will not lift a finger, even if they die as a result of the pressure of the Amerzians, so it seems that the Stream does not see the future.

[Roman070280]

even if they die as a result of Amerzian pressure

The problem is that they are still far from Dying, and they live better than us in the base.
And therefore, they move their fingers more towards the Amers, and not towards ours ..
When friendship with us becomes more profitable for them, then they will begin to stir ..

[Gennady Fomkin]

While the Locomotive of Europe is being transferred to a side track, for subsequent analysis and scrapping, the perplexed Germans scratching their turnips and brushing off their overgrown hairs (hairdressing salons have been closed for more than a month) ask the eternal question, strictly according to Hegel, how to live? ... Someone is trying to protest believing in the ideals of democracy, but the cold outside and the clubs of the oprichnina confidently disperse the thinning crowd. Someone just after watching a zombie box with foam on a mask defend their privilege to wear and tell others how and where to wear. In general, an extraordinary grandmother managed to ditch the German generator of happiness and prosperity in less than 20 years. I must say it started quite modestly, with cutting up power grids and squeezing out 2 monopolists Rwe and EON abroad. Under the loud slogans of the greens, the rapid development of alternative energy began, and then what a blessing - Fukushima, closed the entire nuclear industry, shifting the remnants of contracts and subsequent disposal onto the shoulders of brave burghers. Well, that there are 50 power units in France nearby, but we have beauty. I am sorry to all nice, open, thinking Bavarians.

[Gennady Fomkin]

It was only about the small-town descendants of the peasants, with whom we have to deal with every day.

[Nikolay1987]

Gazprom does not rule out the suspension of implementation or the complete cancellation of the Nord Stream 2 project in the event of a sharp change in the political situation. This is stated in the memorandum for the new placement of bonds of the holding. "

Impotent state

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Nikolay1987

Gazprom does not rule out the suspension of implementation or the complete cancellation of the Nord Stream 2 project in the event of a sharp change in the political situation. This is stated in the memorandum for the new placement of bonds of the holding. "

Impotent state

I won't be surprised if the "leaders" of European countries start visiting Russia now.  Apparently in the Kremlin they decided to move a little Eurogeans. A lot of people have quarreled with this pipeline in Europe and the USA, and this is good. And Russia will need this SP2 only in 4 years.

I am expecting a telephone conversation between Putin and Merkel.

While everything is in the right sector.

[IRS]

Fortune does not shine fortune,
"Fortune" got into the "Stream".
There is an anchor at the bottom
Rust up idle
Chisel, saw, hammer)).

But, we will win ...
Sanctions to attack -
Not only to the bottom
We can put "pipes")) ...

[Gennady Fomkin]

Germany has threatened the United States that it will retaliate for pressure on Nord Stream 2. In particular, the head of the Bundestag Energy Committee, Klaus Ernst, called for the introduction of penal duties on the import of American gas, TASS reports. This is how he reacted to Washington's decision to impose restrictions on the Fortuna pipelayer.

[Gennady Fomkin]

In addition, Germany needs gas for the chemical industry, otherwise they will be devoured in less than 5-7 years.

For other things, you will have to carry out the export of rabies and also the non-working non-German population. At least in the same 404 and Bulgaria and Moldova. Gathering fruits of intelligence is enough. Filtering by IQ below 85 -90 is mandatory for those who already have a status, and for new ones from 100.

As well as in the Russian Federation, let anyone have it above a hundred.

[agond]

So far, the Ukrainian section of the gas pipeline does not decay at all, then ... but not yet

[alpamys]

how they persistently know how to get bored

[Arthur 85]

And if you find a pair of fiber-optic cables at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean connecting Europe with America, and impose random sanctions on them ... Then he will apologize: someone threw a felt boot on the remote control. When their Fsio falls, I think they will understand that the orderlies are watching the ruling world from Washington ...

[Avior]

so-so idea. find out very quickly who was at the cliff site.
will restore, and temporarily use satellites

[Arthur 85]

Duc, punish the culprit. A sailor who accidentally dropped a depth charge - a severe reprimand, or even two outfits out of turn! And to announce to the whole world that it will be so with every next sailor who drops something else on the next cable ... I think the hint will be crystal clear to everyone.

[Avior]

Do you think someone will take it seriously?
Do you think they are fools?
There are sailors like this overseas

[Arthur 85]

Yes, in general, it doesn't matter how they react. They spit in our faces and laugh mockingly. And we wipe ourselves off and babble: "but this is illegal ... you promised that there would be a market and competition ..."
And you need to beat these lying reptiles on the only thing that they love and appreciate - the wallet. And make it clear that we will continue to beat. They only understand such communication.

[220976]

US warns of imposition of sanctions on Russian pipe-laying barge Fortuna

Lived. Now the barge is being sanctioned The Americans have run out of fantasies.