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Polish press: Russia's actions against Ukraine led to the restoration of the conscription system in European countries

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An article was published in the Polish press dedicated to the system of military service in European countries. This is about the material published by the Defense24 resource in which the author says that 10 years ago the conscription service seemed to be a thing of the past to Europeans. It is noted that many countries of continental Europe, including the Baltic states, Ukraine, Sweden, Croatia, and Poland itself, refused to be drafted into the armed forces.

However, as the Polish edition writes, "in 2014 everything changed due to the actions of Russia." Defense24 states that “it was Russian actions against Ukraine” that led to the restoration of the conscription system in European countries.

From the material:

Since 2014, a wave of return to universal military service began. The attacked Ukraine was the first to return the call, then a similar decision was made in Lithuania, then in Sweden. As you can see, this step was taken by those who were directly in danger.

Today, as Polish journalists say, almost all European countries, including large ones, realize the need to use a mixed system of manning the armies.

In the article:

Estonia is implementing a program according to which the military service should integrate the Russian minority into the Estonian army. In large European countries, the conscription system is now seen as an adequate way to increase the size of the armed forces, because recently young Europeans have been reluctant to choose the military profession as a professional career building.

The Polish author writes that he understands the "fears" of many European countries. But the initiative of the Serbian Minister of Defense to restore the conscription system in the country's army is no longer so clear to him. The Polish press said that the initiative of the Serbian Ministry of Defense "is perplexing, since Belgrade is not threatened by either Russia or Turkey." But the Polish edition does not remember why NATO seized part of the territory of Kosovo from Serbia.
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  1. sleeve
    sleeve 19 January 2021 07: 16
    +5
    Sweden returns the conscription due to the impossibility of completing parts. The same is true for Estonia. Did Ukraine switch to a contract?
    1. Vladimir M
      Vladimir M 19 January 2021 07: 50
      +3
      went over
      1. sleeve
        sleeve 19 January 2021 08: 32
        +3
        I found only the "wish" of the Ministry of Defense from December 2019 to switch to a contract.
      2. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 19 January 2021 08: 32
        +2
        passed .... formally, but basically the same "crickets" that were before that ... the question of wnau to serve initially not by conscription, but under the contract was expressed only exclusively in monetary allowance ... and he had a gulkin nose. ... not to confuse long service and contract service
        1. Alexander Seklitsky
          Alexander Seklitsky 19 January 2021 08: 44
          +1
          Well, actually, just like ours. After the deadline, the contract is for three years and for civilian life. Only a few remain in the army for long periods
          1. Crimean partisan 1974
            Crimean partisan 1974 19 January 2021 08: 59
            0
            After the deadline, ... and rightly so, the Soviet system of service is indestructible, it was this system that allowed the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to be saved in the dashing 90s ... as for the contract, the unknown combat unit is initially questionable , while the cricket is already combat-ready and professional, that is, an expert in his field of service ... but at the expense of 3 years, and then ... I don't know where you read this, but the first contract in the RF Armed Forces is signed for 5 years .. .my firstborn is already 3 years old in tank
            1. Alexander Seklitsky
              Alexander Seklitsky 19 January 2021 18: 38
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              Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
              Sanya subtracted this, but the first contract in the RF Armed Forces is signed for 5 years ... my firstborn has been in tank for 3 years

              I'm afraid friend, you are confusing something. The primary contract of service under the contract is:
              • with citizens of the Russian Federation and foreign citizens who have expressed a desire to serve under a contract for a period of 2 to 3 years (Article 38FZ, clause 3 / a). The term is determined by the possible full-time position of a contract soldier who does not have an officer rank (soldier, sailor, sergeant, foreman);
              • a foreign citizen who has expressed a desire to serve under a contract with similar positions and titles will sign a contract for a period of 5 years;
              • the minimum term of the contract for service in the Russian army for citizens and foreign citizens with the necessary education, and assigned to service according to the staffing table for a position, the envisaged rank of ensign, midshipman, officer - the contract is concluded for 5 years;
              • the maximum term of service in the army under the contract is 10 years;
              • servicemen who have reached the age limit, but for health reasons are able to serve, if they wish, they can conclude a permanent contract.

              My colleagues, who signed the contract, and they were half a company, all returned home three years later, and no one remained in the army. Enough Army Romance request
              1. Crimean partisan 1974
                Crimean partisan 1974 19 January 2021 18: 57
                +1
                for a period of 2 to 3 years (Article 38FZ, clause 3 / a) ... ATP for the Old did not know, he himself signed for 5 years. and small too. right after the deadline .. maybe it’s for zero, that is, without a timeframe there is such a thing .. yes God bless it ... but "Enough of the army romance" .. well, the army romance is different, as they say "would be glad to serve, to serve sickening" , mine is constantly on business trips. not when to serve, although he also expresses dissatisfaction, to which I tell him. "you are an adult, decide for yourself. in civilian life it is even worse. but you won't be able to sit on my neck" .. so something like that
        2. Insurgent
          Insurgent 19 January 2021 08: 52
          +7
          Polish press: Russia's actions against Ukraine led to the restoration of the conscription system in European countries

          And today, by the way, is the 367th anniversary of a landmark and quite epoch-making event - the January day of 1654, when the Zaporozhye Cossacks and the foreman, at the Great Pereyaslavskaya Rada, under the leadership of Hetman Bohdan Khmelnitsky, decided to include part of the territory of modern Ukraine into Russia ...
          And the main motivating factor that actually determined the decision of the Little Russians was the claims and oppression of Poland.

          Only part of the modern territory, which is now subject to the Nazis ...

          For the rest of the torn apart Little Russia, the Russian tsars had to fight for a long time and bloody and put together the Russian tsars, and later, also the Soviet power.
          1. Crimean partisan 1974
            Crimean partisan 1974 19 January 2021 09: 08
            +2
            And today, by the way, is the 367th anniversary of a landmark and quite epoch-making event - the January day of 1654, when the Zaporozhye Cossacks ... but here a disagreement may arise. Namely .. on what calendar this action was ... and so pshik pshekov is just the opinion of the scanty thinking population of poland ... he rules with all the inferiority complex
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 19 January 2021 09: 22
              +7
              Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
              and here disagreement may arise. Namely .. on what calendar this action was.


              According to the Horlivka calendar - the most accurate calendar in the world.(I was wrong, and posted the post a day later, so not today, but yesterday)



              Gorlovka.Today | Gorlovka. Today
              Media


              The Republic of Crimea today celebrates another anniversary of the Pereyaslav Rada. Exactly 367 years ago, the Zaporozhye Cossacks under the leadership of Hetman Bohdan Khmelnitsky made a decision to include part of the territory of modern Ukraine into Russia.

              The festive events this year were traditionally held in Simferopol. Together with the Crimean officials, the Head of the Donetsk People's Republic Denis Pushilin took part in them.

              More details on the website: https://newsua.ru/video/39600-glava-dnr-krym-i-donbass-neotemlemaya-sostavlyayushchaya-russkogo-mira-18-01-2021-panorama
              # Russia # News # DPR # LPR # Ukraine #News
              1. Crimean partisan 1974
                Crimean partisan 1974 19 January 2021 09: 35
                +3
                The Republic of Crimea today celebrates ...... ATP for Old, ... but Crimea has something to do with the Pereyaslav Rada as a side effect, .. yes there were Cossack raids on the Karaim kogonat, that's all .... and specifically Crimea Russian became under Katya II ... so even though Katya is German, but our Mother ... and Bogdan ... I don't know .... although yesterday they saluted in the center of the village ... it doesn't look like a wedding or a name day ... celebrated .. I had no time for this ... godfather buried
              2. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 19 January 2021 11: 31
                +1
                And for 337 years they lived peacefully and amicably, until the Banderaites came to power.
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 19 January 2021 14: 05
                  +5
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  And for 337 years they lived peacefully and amicably, until the Banderaites came to power.

                  In fact, having sorted it out, it is clear that the antipode of Russia began to be created from the former Ukrainian SSR immediately after the emergence of an "independent power", from the ill-fated August 1991.
                  1. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 19 January 2021 14: 22
                    +2
                    Quote: Insurgent
                    In fact, having sorted it out, it is clear that the antipode of Russia began to be created from the former Ukrainian SSR immediately after the emergence of an "independent power", from the ill-fated August 1991.

                    That's exactly what I think, too. An antipode has been created for 30 years, but no antidote has yet been found.
                    1. Vladimir Mashkov
                      Vladimir Mashkov 19 January 2021 16: 57
                      +1
                      The draft was returned by all those "attacked by Russia" ... No, a different definition is needed here. From the field of psychiatry! laughing laughing laughing
                      1. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 19 January 2021 17: 02
                        +2
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        The draft was returned by all those "attacked by Russia" ... No, a different definition is needed here. From the field of psychiatry!

                        Or maybe send them all to a narcologist. Something doesn't smell like a psychiatrist here, right now I can smell the smoke from an Afghan.
        3. Egoza
          Egoza 19 January 2021 09: 16
          0
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          passed .... formally, but basically the same "crickets" that were before that ... the question of wnau to serve initially not by conscription, but under the contract, was expressed only exclusively in monetary allowance ... and he had a gulkin nose

          Well, at least some "jobs". Everyone should eat hotzza. But seriously, there has never been such a thing that they went to the army, because they are fed there. And there is absolutely nothing at home.
          1. Crimean partisan 1974
            Crimean partisan 1974 19 January 2021 09: 24
            +2
            there was no such thing that they went to the army, because they feed there ........ even Lena overslept something ... the striped ones in the original had a contract service, they recruited everyone indiscriminately for hard cash ... this one the so-called contract got accustomed well with the frogs in the form of a foreign legion where they recruit all the rabble of the world for hard currency and with a view of citizenship ... and even now the striped people are recruiting all kinds of trash, Latinos and blacks for the contract ... so here's how then so .... and with an urgent call there is no way .. well, except perhaps to the National Guard .. and then with a strain
            1. Egoza
              Egoza 19 January 2021 09: 31
              -1
              Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
              there was no such thing that they went to the army, because they feed there ........ even if Lena overslept something ..

              The striped did not, but in Ukraine it WAS. With the memory, the guys stretched out of the villages, just at 14-15. There generally, practically illiterate, and .... will not miss the censorship came. In training, they grabbed their heads
              1. Crimean partisan 1974
                Crimean partisan 1974 19 January 2021 09: 43
                +1
                With the memory, the guys were reaching out from the villages, just at 14-15. There, in general, practically illiterate, ... it was Elena who were not contract soldiers, but marauders and rapists, or they never did anything of a path in battles. But Nova Poshta from Donbass did not have time to transport the parcels ... and I saw these contractors on Chongar in April 2014, there were some reports from the media that by blueprint they wandered over to us ... I will tell you. it was regular, they asked to eat it stupidly ... so it doesn't look like a contract from the phrase IN ANY WAY
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 19 January 2021 11: 24
                  +1
                  Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                  I'll tell you. it was regular, they asked to eat it stupidly ... so it doesn't look like a contract from the phrase IN ANY WAY

                  And there it was always like that. I remember in 2000 Milenium, in Kerch then Ukrainian, soldiers stood and asked not for alms like grandmothers, but "give me something to eat." Those border guards asked, "Men, give me at least a couple of mackerels, we will cook in a teapot, but we will eat," and these were not privates, but a warrant.
          2. Alexander Seklitsky
            Alexander Seklitsky 19 January 2021 18: 48
            +1
            Quote: Egoza
            But seriously, there has never been such a thing that they went to the army, because they are fed there. And there is absolutely nothing at home.

            Believe it or not, it’s like this all the time. I served in Transbaikalia for a short period. A lot of local guys came hoping for a contract, no work or salary at home. Many people from distant remote villages in the army saw at least some opportunity for themselves. For example, my colleague, stayed on the contract, and then unlearned to become a locomotive driver. And if not for the army, he would have drunk himself intoxicated by the age of 30.
      3. venik
        venik 19 January 2021 11: 52
        0
        Quote: Vladimir M
        went over

        ========
        When? belay There were such plans, but it didn’t seem to come to the point!
    2. halpat
      halpat 19 January 2021 09: 06
      +1
      Quote: sleeve
      Did Ukraine switch to a contract?


      of course smile
  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty 19 January 2021 07: 24
    +5
    The lack of psychiatrists in the leadership of the NATO countries led to such a pernicious syndrome as the fear of a Russian serviceman, hence the "desire" to defend against the notorious "Russian aggression." Only, we do not need all these feeble-minded Russophobes, to feed them in captivity, this has already happened many times, and there has never been any gratitude for Russian real humanism in relation to countries and peoples liberated from this or that occupation! So, you occupied yourself inside your NATO, leave me alone, intellectually wretched from Russia, which you have not dreamed of at lunch for a hundred years! !!
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 19 January 2021 07: 36
    +5
    it was Russian actions against Ukraine "that led to the restoration of the conscription system in European countries ... this step was taken by those who were directly in danger
    Danger threatened Lithuania and Sweden? Probably afraid that they would be taken into the structure of Russia following the example of Crimea? Worried in vain - not needed and for nothing, especially the Balts. On the other hand, I did not quite understand whether it was so good or bad that the countries of Europe understood the need for a mixed system of equipping the army.
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 19 January 2021 07: 39
    +8
    Their guys DO NOT go to the army under a contract, understaffed ... So they want to return the draft. And under this theme they drag Russia ... As in bad fairy tales ... Because Serpent Gorynych ... Incarnate evil. And must be to blame. Because ... to blame.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 19 January 2021 07: 53
      +5
      I have friends in Germany. Their son grew up, I ask him - will you go to the army? And he replies - I know that a man should serve, Dad taught me that, but I won't go to the German army, they laugh at our army !!! Here is such a jigurda ...
  5. Mykhalych
    Mykhalych 19 January 2021 07: 43
    +1
    Well, if you have to thank you, they will shake the extra fat, they will be in good shape. Nerves after being drafted will heal, they have psychiatrists and no less lawyers, - a breakthrough.
  6. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 19 January 2021 07: 47
    +3
    Estonia is implementing a program according to which the military service should integrate the Russian minority into the Estonian army.

    It is very interesting how they want to recruit stateless persons or citizens of other states into the army.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 19 January 2021 08: 46
      +3
      Estonian Foreign Legion. And that sounds cool.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 19 January 2021 11: 07
        +1
        Quote: Pereira
        Estonian Foreign Legion. And that sounds cool.

        So in the legion, the soldiers need to pay money, they will not "pull the strap" upon the call,
        and on conscription serve from 7 to 9 months.
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 19 January 2021 11: 36
          +1
          That's the trick. Negroes will serve on German money. And theirs to Germany to work.
    2. sniperino
      sniperino 19 January 2021 11: 04
      +1
      Quote: tihonmarine
      It is very interesting how they want to recruit stateless persons or citizens of other states into the army.
      Interestingly, girls and persons without a specific gender are also included in the lists of conscripts; if so, do they shorten their service life as in Israel? In short, have they stepped on the throat of their own tolerance for the sake of fighting efficiency? It seems that migrants will begin to be hired for an EU passport.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 19 January 2021 11: 11
        +1
        Quote: sniperino
        Interestingly, girls and persons without a specific gender are also included in the lists of conscripts

        The girls are not yet accepted for plowing, only in the border guards and the police. And on asexual, the law has not yet been adopted (although armored personnel carriers, or BMPs, they are also asexual).
    3. Nross
      Nross 19 January 2021 11: 53
      +2
      Like 2 fingers!
      In the Russian Federation, the 53rd Federal Law works for this. If the barmaley knows Russian, is not noticed / was not involved, then it goes like an urgent call.

      I really hope that adequate people work for conscripts and sweep aside this liberal mine.
  7. Humpty
    Humpty 19 January 2021 07: 49
    +3
    Similarly, the actions attributed to Russia have caused an increase in the sales of adult diapers, which is noted not only in Europe.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 19 January 2021 08: 24
      +3
      Quote: Humpty
      Similarly, the actions attributed to Russia have caused an increase in the sales of adult diapers, which is noted not only in Europe.

      And the most interesting thing is that zashtatniks demand to increase defense spending, but Russia is still to blame
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 19 January 2021 11: 16
        +2
        Quote: Lipchanin
        And the most interesting thing is that zashtatniks demand to increase defense spending, but Russia is still to blame

        Yeah, you need to think of this, "Russia's actions in Ukraine (what actions?) Led to the restoration of the conscription system in Europe."
        Let them say more simply, "We DO NOT want to pay money to contract servicemen, conscription is ten times cheaper (in Estonia, 100 euros for a conscript).
  8. Tagan
    Tagan 19 January 2021 07: 56
    +2
    The Polish press said that the initiative of the Serbian Ministry of Defense "is perplexing, since Belgrade is not threatened by either Russia or Turkey."

    Sho is done. These words (or rather, "conclusions") are beautiful good
  9. Pavel73
    Pavel73 19 January 2021 07: 57
    +3
    Typical Western hypocrisy. And, given that the Poles on the Slavic branch are our close relatives, it acquires especially ugly and disgusting features.
  10. Semenov
    Semenov 19 January 2021 08: 04
    +23
    Even Poland began to admit that Russia did well.
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  12. fif21
    fif21 19 January 2021 08: 39
    +2
    NATO enlargement has led to Russian retaliatory actions. And NATO started having diarrhea. Nobody wants to be cannon fodder, so they don’t agree to a contract, it remains forcibly, upon the call. In Russia, this draft system works great. A freebie for the state, a school of life for men. wassat
    1. sniperino
      sniperino 19 January 2021 11: 17
      0
      Quote: fif21
      for men - a school of life.
      In primitive society, this was a rite of initiation. Then they already understood that the boy becomes a man, tempered in trials, and not according to a passport.
  13. Ros 56
    Ros 56 19 January 2021 09: 21
    +1
    And the very small geyropeytsy apparently strained with their brains? But Switzerland does not jump like these small ones from bush to bush.
  14. cniza
    cniza 19 January 2021 10: 49
    +3
    The Polish press said that the initiative of the Serbian Ministry of Defense "is perplexing, since Belgrade is not threatened by either Russia or Turkey." But the Polish edition does not remember why NATO seized part of the territory of Kosovo from Serbia.


    And they only think of themselves and everyone knows perfectly well that Russia does not threaten anyone.
    1. sniperino
      sniperino 19 January 2021 11: 32
      +1
      Quote: cniza
      they think of themselves and everyone knows very well that Russia does not threaten anyone.
      Serbia is threatened by Europe, and the Poles realized that the Serbs understood this. Hence their questions.
  15. Constanty
    Constanty 19 January 2021 11: 36
    0
    Drafting systems - Compulsory military service is not an absolute solution today. The professional army seems to be more efficient.

    On the other hand, while managing a shooting range in Poland, I was even shocked when 17-year-old college students approached me, who did not know what a target was, how to aim and shoot at a target. 17 years old boys !!!
    While it is possible to watch films, as, for example, in Russia, schoolchildren disassemble and assemble the AK-74.
    The effeminacy and stupidity of young people in Poland has reached the limit, and although I believe that conscription is the wrong way, military training, defense training and frequent basic training of the army should be restored.
    Even not only as an element of protection against a potential aggressor, but also for the restoration of normal education.
  16. Sasha from Uralmash
    Sasha from Uralmash 19 January 2021 12: 10
    +2
    And the actions of Poland and the Tribalts, against Russia, have led to the fact that the Iskanders are now in Kaliningrad!
  17. IRS
    IRS 19 January 2021 12: 14
    +2
    "Russia's actions against Ukraine .."
    I didn't even read the article. One thing became clear right away - Russia's actions against Ukraine led to something, while Ukraine's actions against Russia almost erased Uraina from the map of the world, and so far no one has closed this issue. Even in Europe, there were changes after the actions of Ukraine and Russia. In Poland alone, everything is the same - the Poles will not understand that their affairs in the long term are even worse than in Ukraine ... History teaches something only to sane, educated people, that's why in Poland everything is still - ambition, but idle talk ...

    "Four Tankmen and a Dog" - what a wonderful film it was .. I wonder if they understand this in Poland or not? ...
  18. Quadro
    Quadro 19 January 2021 14: 10
    +2
    When countries start a serious crisis, they are always militarized. The same Japan as an example - the deepest crisis and intensified militarization, Poland is the same - there are fewer handouts from the EU and even covidla and intensified militarization is underway. Norway - stocks of raw materials are running out, militarization. Sweden - shortage, migrant crisis, covidla crisis, militarization.
  19. businessv
    businessv 19 January 2021 21: 43
    0
    Polish press: Russia's actions against Ukraine led to the restoration of the conscription system in European countries
    Invalid title! It should be like this: "The actions of the US and Ukraine led to the restoration of the conscription system in Europe."