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It is reported about the preparation for the tests of the cruiser "Admiral Nakhimov"

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The cruiser of the "admiral" series of the project 1144M "Admiral Nakhimov", as it became known, this year will be prepared for mooring tests. Reportedly, work is now underway with cables and other electrical equipment, which is part of the routine overhaul of the warship commissioned in 1988.


Mooring tests should be carried out at the berth, which is part of the Sevmash structure. After their completion, the cruiser will already enter full-fledged sea trials, which will be performed by its crew, which is currently undergoing training and certification activities.

It should be recalled that the ship was decommissioned fleet just 9 years after the start of its operation - in 1997. 16 years later, in 2013, contract documents were signed for its repair and modernization. That is, the overhaul and modernization of a warship in time is already comparable to the period of its operation in the USSR Navy and subsequently the Russian Navy.

Among the modernization procedures - equipping the cruiser "Admiral Nakhimov" with the latest weapons. As a result, the ship receives universal launchers that can be used for various missile weapons, including the hypersonic anti-ship winged Zircons.

It was originally planned that the modernization of the warship should be completed in 2020. However, a number of factors, including the pandemic, have made adjustments to the process. I would like to hope that the new schedule for testing and returning the ship to combat formation will be maintained in full.
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  1. Alien From
    Alien From 19 January 2021 06: 36
    +13
    After the Union, no one will master such cruisers.
    1. Semenov
      Semenov 19 January 2021 08: 24
      +25
      Quote: Alien From
      After the Union, no one can master such cruisers

      And this is not necessary - there are already no less dangerous ships of a smaller size.
      1. Grits
        Grits 19 January 2021 09: 18
        +15
        Quote: Semenov
        And this is not necessary - there are already no less dangerous ships of a smaller size.

        You shouldn't be like that. In a ship of large displacement, much more can be crammed with weapons. As shock, as anti-submarine and anti-ship, and anti-aircraft and radio-technical. And the number and characteristics abruptly. Plus other nishtyaki in the form of autonomy, survivability and comfort
        1. Zhan
          Zhan 19 January 2021 09: 54
          +11
          The cruiser is undoubtedly powerful, consider it free to provide air defense, missile defense on distant approaches to an entire naval compound. The rest of the tasks can be distributed among corvettes, frigates and submarines. If such a compound enters the Mediterranean, all NATO will nervously smoke at the berths of their bases.
          1. SovAr238A
            SovAr238A 19 January 2021 10: 09
            +1
            Quote: Zhan
            The cruiser is undoubtedly powerful, consider it free to provide air defense, missile defense on distant approaches to an entire naval compound. The rest of the tasks can be distributed among corvettes, frigates and submarines. If such a compound enters the Mediterranean, all NATO will nervously smoke at the berths of their bases.


            And how will corvettes and frigates feel in a storm in the Bay of Biscay?
            The combat value of the compound in such a situation tends towards the state of the weakest.

            And yes, Middle-earth is also shot through from all sides, if you understand the location of the islands of Sicily, Sardinia, Crete, Cyprus, Balearic Islands, Malta, etc.
        2. PROXOR
          PROXOR 19 January 2021 10: 04
          +1
          In the USSR, large ships were still built to shove a granite rocket. Now Onyxes and zircons are 3 times smaller.
          And the large size imposes problems of radio signature.
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 19 January 2021 14: 51
            +2
            Quote: PROXOR
            Now Onyxes and zircons are 3 times smaller.

            This means that there will be at least three times more of these missiles on the cruiser! Not 20 Granite rockets, but under a hundred Zircons and Calibers.
            1. PROXOR
              PROXOR 19 January 2021 15: 10
              -2
              Build 3 Project 22350m frigates faster than one 1144.
              1. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis 19 January 2021 15: 11
                +7
                And ten karakurt is faster than 3 frigates of project 22350m
                1. PROXOR
                  PROXOR 19 January 2021 15: 20
                  +1
                  Write nonsense. Karakurt are pennants of the near sea zone, while the project 1144 and 22350m far. The only thing in which 1144 will be better than 3x 22350m is air defense, since 1144 carries the S-300F to the bot. The rest of 22350m is much more versatile than 1144. He can be both an anti-submarine gunner and against surface targets and ground targets. First, the fleets must be filled with frigates. And only then think about the destroyer of the Leader project. The leader will be the legal successor of the 1144 project. It is so large that it will most likely be equipped with YSU. But this is a perspective. In the meantime, our situation with the surface lovefleet is so catastrophic that we have to modernize the BOD 1155. Yes, and modernize it. Instead of calibers, onyxes, zircons, it is planned to install two PCs with X-35 subsonic missiles.
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 19 January 2021 19: 33
                    +4
                    Instead of calibers, onyxes, zircons, it is planned to install two PCs with Kh-35 subsonic missiles.

                    Not INSTEAD, but TOGETHER. yes
                    2 UKSK modernized 1155 quite themselves and Calibers, and Zircons will take. hi
                    1. PROXOR
                      PROXOR 20 January 2021 09: 58
                      0
                      Stop. They wrote that only the X-35 was delivered. If you installed something super. 2 UKSK is how many missiles?
                      1. Alex777
                        Alex777 20 January 2021 11: 26
                        +4
                        1 UKSK = 8 VPU. 2 UKSK = 16 VPU (missiles).

                        Right behind the gun 2 UKSK.

                        Don't believe everything they write. hi
                      2. DrEng527
                        DrEng527 20 January 2021 13: 19
                        +1
                        thanks for the illustrative photo!
                      3. Bersaglieri
                        Bersaglieri 20 January 2021 13: 39
                        0
                        Everything is correct. "Caliber" 0 for large "game", and "Uranus" - for trifles. In principle, it is possible to replace 4x4 "Uranus" in the place of "Trumpets"
                        - they are light and small
                      4. Alex777
                        Alex777 20 January 2021 14: 02
                        0
                        I discussed the 4x4 topic with the Moremans - it does not work.
                        And unnecessary difficulties with recharging, and other reasons (up to "water will wash away").
                        It's a pity. It would be epic. The last Uranians work perfectly on the ground within their ~ 260 km. hi
            2. Grits
              Grits 20 January 2021 15: 46
              +2
              Quote: 30 vis
              And ten karakurt is faster than 3 frigates of project 22350m

              And 30 Raptor-class boats can be built faster than 10 Karakuts.
              1. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis 20 January 2021 16: 11
                +4
                Quote: Gritsa
                Quote: 30 vis
                And ten karakurt is faster than 3 frigates of project 22350m

                And 30 Raptor-class boats can be built faster than 10 Karakuts.

                ABOUT ! And how many six-oared skiffs you can tune! Quickly, cheaply and beautifully .. On oars to the adversary! drinks good
    2. DrEng527
      DrEng527 20 January 2021 13: 17
      +1
      Quote: Gritsa
      Plus other nishtyaki in the form of autonomy, survivability and comfort

      how did Academician Krylov say about dreadnoughts - they will feed the hero, what if he has diarrhea before the fight? request
    3. koramax81
      koramax81 21 January 2021 23: 22
      0
      before the First World War, everyone also built dreadnoughts, and then they were afraid to lose them, since the cost of one was simply transcendental. The only battle is Jutland, and that happened more by accident
  • Kalmar
    Kalmar 19 January 2021 08: 57
    +2
    Quote: Alien From
    After the Union, no one will master such cruisers.

    The Chinese or the Americans, probably, could, it is simply not advisable now. Nobody uses heavy anti-ship missiles like Granit now, and smaller missiles are more profitable to "spread" over a larger number of more modest ships.
    1. Machito
      Machito 19 January 2021 15: 44
      +2
      The Soviet Union actually challenged the US naval dominance. And now the expediency of such a cruiser is not at all obvious. You cannot send him on a long voyage alone, only as part of the KUG. And for the formation of this KUG, it will be necessary to send almost half of the surface ships and a couple of nuclear attack submarines, which are needed to cover the SSBN, to the distant sea zone. Well, for reconnaissance and target designation, he needs Kuzya in working order and with a combat-ready air wing, and Kuzya hovered at the pier for an indefinite period.
      1. Kalmar
        Kalmar 19 January 2021 17: 33
        +2
        Quote: Bearded
        And now the expediency of such a cruiser is not at all obvious.

        It, expediency, and in those years raised questions. Project 1164 seems to have been started, among other things, due to the excessive cost of 1144. You cannot build many such cruisers, and the number of ships also decides: even the most powerful cruiser cannot be physically everywhere at once.
  • Titsen
    Titsen 19 January 2021 06: 52
    0
    The fault of the Covid 19 Pandemic in the failure to implement the planned events is everywhere written and considered as a panacea for all simple slovenliness!
    1. Ka-52
      Ka-52 19 January 2021 07: 48
      +11
      The fault of the Covid 19 Pandemic in the failure to implement the planned events is everywhere written and considered as a panacea for all simple slovenliness!

      chatter. Of course, slovenliness is a natural state of our military industry, but the covid also seriously made its own adjustments. I communicate with our subcontractors - it often happened that in the shops just half of the people were not on the payroll. Out of 8 technologists, 4 worked, out of 12 designers - 7. Tasks had to be divided, prioritized.
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 19 January 2021 08: 23
        +6
        All this, if you still multiply by the fact that there are darkness in such work, then it is a snowball. Everyone slows down everyone. I judge according to their work. According to the most conservative estimates, at least a year will have to be spent to return to the DO level.
    2. lis-ik
      lis-ik 19 January 2021 09: 15
      -7
      Quote: Titsen
      The fault of the Covid 19 Pandemic in the failure to implement the planned events is everywhere written and considered as a panacea for all simple slovenliness!

      Now they are preparing the ground for an allegedly even more serious mutation, they do not want to crawl out of the cozy trench, before the sanctions, now a "pandemic".
      1. A009
        A009 19 January 2021 09: 50
        +2
        You definitely have a "secret brain conspiracy" in a difficult stage.
  • Victor_B
    Victor_B 19 January 2021 06: 59
    +2
    Great news!
    We can safely say that in this historical segment, Nakhimov is the most powerful surface ship.
    (Formally speaking, shock AB for Nakhimov is production, but he himself is production for an air wing, which can also be land-based).
    Nakhimov from the series - one warrior in the field!
    AB from the series - one in the field is NOT a warrior!
    That is, if Nakhimov is accompanied by the same order as the American AB, it will be something very unusual.
    1. Bradley
      Bradley 19 January 2021 08: 21
      +7
      (Formally speaking, shock AB for Nakhimov is production, but he himself is production for an air wing, which can also be land-based).

      How does Nakhimov know where the AUG is, where to shoot? But the aircraft carrier's aircraft will know. Aviation is a much more flexible tool, and from the heap of the same Harpoons, no one will be good, or the same LRASM. In the case of LRASM, aviation will not even enter the air defense zone of the cruiser.

      Nakhimov from the series - one warrior in the field!

      Even the Death Star is alone in a field of no war.
      Like ...
      AB from the series - one in the field is NOT a warrior!


      That is, if Nakhimov is accompanied by the same order as the American AB, it will be something very unusual.

      KUG is called. It is a normal phenomenon in the Union.
      1. K-612-O
        K-612-O 19 January 2021 09: 13
        +1
        Appeared only in the mid-70s, and then with artillery cruisers pr 68 bis
        1. Victor_B
          Victor_B 19 January 2021 09: 26
          0
          Quote: Bradley
          Even the Death Star is alone in a field of no war.

          It goes without saying ...
          AB alone is not capable of fighting by definition. He needs a warrant.
          Nakhimov is very sharp on his own, both in attack and in anti-aircraft defense and air defense.
          It is possible to carry Ka-31 AWACS on it, well, and a lot of other things in the "network-centric" war Nakhimov (and he was trained in it) may know about where the AUG hangs out.
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  • Victor_B
    Victor_B 19 January 2021 09: 21
    0
    Quote: Bradley
    How does Nakhimov know where the AUG is, where to shoot?

    And who said that the battle would be in the middle of the ocean?
    And who said that without the use of nuclear weapons?
    Where will the AUG hide in the Mediterranean, so as not to "target" it for 1000 km?
    Or near the Persian Gulf?
    1. Kalmar
      Kalmar 19 January 2021 09: 34
      0
      Quote: Victor_B
      And who said that without the use of nuclear weapons?

      And for nuclear weapons, target designation is not necessary? Charges of the megaton class are not used in anti-ship missiles, and all others must be placed within at least a kilometer from the target.

      Quote: Victor_B
      Where will the AUG hide in the Mediterranean, so as not to "target" it for 1000 km?

      First, it is not that small; finding AUG in it is also not an easy task. Secondly, in such areas, the AUG will easily hide in civilian traffic: you will have to pant pretty hard to understand that among hundreds of ships of different sizes it is an aircraft carrier, and not a neutral container ship, to be found and hit.
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B 19 January 2021 09: 44
        0
        Quote: Kalmar
        AUG will easily hide in civil traffic

        Fear God!
        What is civilian traffic during the war?
        Well, Nakhimov will use not only his onboard target designation means in the modern "network-centric" war.
        1. Kalmar
          Kalmar 19 January 2021 09: 48
          0
          Quote: Victor_B
          What is civilian traffic during the war?

          In the sense - what? The economy does not turn off in wartime. Even in war, civilians want to eat, dress, and warm their homes, and the dependence of the modern economy on shipping is very high. The intensity of this traffic will certainly decrease, but far from zero.

          Quote: Victor_B
          Well, Nakhimov will use not only his onboard target designation means in the modern "network-centric" war.

          This is understandable, with onboard means, he will not see anything for 1000 km. But out of the "network-centric" spacecraft in the same Mediterranean Sea, we have only 4 spacecraft of the "Liana" complex, whose capabilities in terms of reconnaissance and (especially) issuance of control commands are far from unlimited.
        2. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 19 January 2021 10: 18
          -2
          Quote: Victor_B
          Quote: Kalmar
          AUG will easily hide in civil traffic

          Fear God!
          What is civilian traffic during the war?
          Well, Nakhimov will use not only his onboard target designation means in the modern "network-centric" war.


          Yes Yes...
          victims of German raiders - did they tell you yourself that there is no civilian traffic?
          1. Victor_B
            Victor_B 19 January 2021 10: 25
            0
            Quote: SovAr238A
            victims of German raiders - did they tell you yourself that there is no civilian traffic?
            Well, within the radius of the cruiser's radar view, not a single merchant will hide from him, and 300 km is any more than 20-30 km for the Germans.
            1. Kalmar
              Kalmar 19 January 2021 10: 37
              0
              Quote: Victor_B
              Well, within the radius of the cruiser's radar view, not a single merchant will hide from him, and 300 km is any more than 20-30 km for the Germans.

              There is a suspicion that the range of detection of surface targets by the cruiser's own means is still much less than 300 km. Radio horizon and all that.
              1. Victor_B
                Victor_B 19 January 2021 10: 40
                +1
                Quote: Kalmar
                Radio horizon and all that.

                Helicopter AWACS Ka-31.
                1. Kalmar
                  Kalmar 19 January 2021 10: 50
                  0
                  Quote: Victor_B
                  Helicopter AWACS Ka-31.

                  The Ka-31 is undoubtedly better than nothing, but it will not physically be able to conduct constant (or simply prolonged) patrols. Not to mention the fact that we have, in principle, 2 such helicopters for all fleets.
                2. SovAr238A
                  SovAr238A 19 January 2021 11: 14
                  0
                  the radius of combat patrolling of the Ka-31 from the carrier ship is no more than 110 km.
                  The maximum target detection range by the Ka-31/35 helicopter is 220 km.
                  The width of the same middle-ground is 200 km from point to point. Subject to work at an altitude of 3,5 kilometers.
                  The presence of a helicopter in Mediterranean at such an altitude and such a distance from the cruiser in the event of a combat collision will lead to the instant destruction of the helicopter.
      2. Victor_B
        Victor_B 19 January 2021 10: 31
        0
        Quote: Kalmar
        finding AUG in it is also not an easy task.

        So let them look for Nakhimov too!
        1. Kalmar
          Kalmar 19 January 2021 10: 36
          0
          Quote: Victor_B
          So let them look for Nakhimov too!

          I do not argue, "Nakhimov" is also unlikely to shine in vain. True, in the same Mediterranean Sea the enemy has a great advantage in aviation, which will greatly simplify his search for our ships - this must be taken into account.
          1. Victor_B
            Victor_B 19 January 2021 10: 39
            +2
            Lonely Nakhimov has few chances against AUG, but no one will send him to chase AUG alone.
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      3. SovAr238A
        SovAr238A 19 January 2021 10: 48
        +3
        Quote: Victor_B
        Quote: Kalmar
        finding AUG in it is also not an easy task.

        So let them look for Nakhimov too!


        Be honest.
        The enemy in the Mediterranean has Total:
        - advantage in radar coverage of the entire territory.
        - superiority in the number of AWACS aircraft.
        - a total advantage in PLO aviation.
        - a total advantage in the number of strike aircraft.
        - a total advantage in the number of attack and anti-ship missiles.
        - a total advantage in air defense systems.
        - the interaction of the combat arms, worked out among the NATO structures, outside their territorial affiliation.

        The presence of such a ship as "Nakhimov" there - in case of a clash, it gives it no more than 5 minutes of combat.
        no matter how powerful and armed it is - just Mediterranean is the complete fiefdom of NATO countries and their African "partners".

        And yes, to Mediterranean - he still needs to go.
        Gibraltar - has not been canceled ...

        If you don’t realize this and don’t understand, all your opuses are worthless ...
        Another inhabitant of an alternative universe.
        1. Victor_B
          Victor_B 19 January 2021 10: 51
          +1
          Quote: SovAr238A
          The enemy in the Mediterranean has Total:

          We all will die!!!

          In Middle-earth, he will be alone only by chance if he did not have time to return from a long campaign.
          Its task will be to combat submarines and anti-submarine aircraft in the Barents Sea, where the American AUG has nothing to do at all.
          The steam catapults will freeze.
          1. SovAr238A
            SovAr238A 19 January 2021 10: 59
            -1
            Quote: Victor_B
            Quote: SovAr238A
            The enemy in the Mediterranean has Total:

            We all will die!!!

            In Middle-earth, he will be alone only by chance if he did not have time to return from a long campaign.
            Its task will be to combat submarines and anti-submarine aircraft in the Barents Sea, where the American AUG has nothing to do at all.
            The steam catapults will freeze.


            Mediterranean is foreign territory.
            And if there is in the case of BP - our ships - they simply have no chance.
            No one.
            Take all our fleets from all places - they will not last 10 minutes.
            For this is someone else's plot.

            And the fight in the Barents Sea is the only place where our fleet has at least some chance ...
            And the aircraft carriers won't freeze ...

            For many years, American aircraft carriers have been appearing at exercises in the Barents Sea ...
            At least you can see the composition of the teachings in history
            do not repeat the same "stupid" urya-patriotic myths ...
            Otherwise it will be the same as with Cook and the Khibiny ...
            1. Victor_B
              Victor_B 19 January 2021 11: 01
              0
              Quote: SovAr238A
              And the aircraft carriers won't freeze ...

              It is precisely the American ABs that are not capable of fighting in the Arctic.
              More precisely, three months a year can.
              This is a medical fact!
            2. ZEMCH
              ZEMCH 19 January 2021 17: 30
              +2
              Quote: SovAr238A
              For many years, American aircraft carriers have been appearing at exercises in the Barents Sea ...
              At least you can see the composition of the teachings in history
              do not repeat the same "stupid" urya-patriotic myths ...
              Otherwise it will be the same as with Cook and the Khibiny ...

              US ships are not frequent visitors to the northern seas. Over the past 30 years, American aircraft carriers have visited the Arctic twice. In 1991, the USS America CV-66 aircraft carrier arrived here (it was decommissioned in 1996). At the end of October 2018, the USS Harry S. Truman CVN-75 aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman set off to conquer the North from the Norfolk naval base. He took part in NATO maneuvers "United Trident".
              However, the Harry Truman could not advance beyond the coast of Norway due to bad weather conditions and soon went to a warmer place - to the Mediterranean Sea. Here you can make a small remark - an aircraft carrier becomes useless in a storm of 5-6 points, since aircraft, its main weapon, are unable to take off and land on the deck. In addition, the "Harry Truman" in the Arctic is trite icy, part of the equipment is out of order.
        2. Aerodrome
          Aerodrome 19 January 2021 16: 20
          0
          Be honest.
          to the end already ... honest. total advantage in the entire fleet, alas.
  • Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 19 January 2021 16: 07
    0
    Quote: Bradley
    How does Nakhimov know where the AUG is, where to shoot? But the aircraft carrier's aircraft will know.

    Really ??? as ? who will let her in?
  • Kalmar
    Kalmar 19 January 2021 09: 08
    +6
    Quote: Victor_B
    Nakhimov from the series - one warrior in the field!

    I would reformulate in such a way that the AUG is unlikely to be able to drown the Nakhimov at one attempt, and at the same time it is unlikely to survive if it hits a missile salvo: surviving the attack of several dozen Onyxes is not only given to everyone. In other words, even alone "Nakhimov" can perform more or less on an equal footing with the AUG, and then intelligence and competent tactics will decide.

    Quote: Victor_B
    That is, if Nakhimov is accompanied by the same order as the American AB, it will be something very unusual.

    "Oh, if only, oh, if it were not for life, but a song."
    Alas, we have not been building destroyers for a long time, with modern nuclear submarines (project 885 (M)), too, so far everything is going pretty tight. Although, even with three or four frigates 22350 as an escort, it would have turned out an ICG that could make the Americans extremely nervous.
  • Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 19 January 2021 11: 45
    -2
    Quote: Victor_B
    That is, if Nakhimov is accompanied by the same order as the American AB, it will be something very unusual.

    It will be a parade. In all other cases, there is no such need - this hero was born to fight in one face. yes
  • Zhenya Khazarsky
    Zhenya Khazarsky 19 January 2021 16: 04
    +3
    Nakhimov from the series - one warrior in the field!

    I remembered something: "Everyone was afraid of Ilya Muromets at school, so they beat the whole class."
    One cannot take away from 1144 - beauty!
  • Bshkaus
    Bshkaus 19 January 2021 07: 01
    -1
    It's high time, but the phrase
    including pandemic
    pleased most of all. From the series "poisoned with toffee". Since 2008, I have been following the fate when they started talking about it: to repair it for more than 10 years, it's a shame. It was built from scratch faster
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 19 January 2021 08: 25
      +7
      It was dismantled almost to the ground. There is a lot of video work In general, it is being modernized first.
      1. Bshkaus
        Bshkaus 19 January 2021 13: 13
        -1
        It was dismantled almost to the ground. There is a lot of video work In general, it is being modernized first.
        so I say that we have an excuse for everything
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 19 January 2021 18: 34
          +1
          Justification for what? What works that no one else has done before?
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 19 January 2021 07: 05
    +4
    It seems like after Nakhimov, "Peter," his sister ship, will be put on such modernization, and the other two from the series will go on pins and needles! PS - All forumman with the Epiphany! All the best in your work and, most importantly, a peaceful sky over our country! drinks hi
    1. Sandor Clegane
      Sandor Clegane 19 January 2021 08: 59
      -1
      Quote: Thrifty
      It seems like after Nakhimov they will put "Peter,"

      Unfortunately, Peter will be delivered only for repairs, his weapons will remain the same ((
    2. Kalmar
      Kalmar 19 January 2021 09: 12
      -1
      Quote: Thrifty
      It seems like after Nakhimov, "Peter," his sister ship will be put on such modernization

      We have already decided not: it takes a very long time and very expensive.
  • FRoman1984
    FRoman1984 19 January 2021 07: 17
    +9
    I would like to see Lazarev at Sevmash too. And of course Peter.
    Kirov, apparently, cannot be saved in any way due to problems with the power plant.
    Very beautiful and powerful, really ocean ships. Swan song of the Soviet Union shipbuilding.
    1. Sandor Clegane
      Sandor Clegane 19 January 2021 09: 00
      0
      Quote: FRoman1984
      I would like to see Lazarev at Sevmash too

      the decision was made to dispose of it, so only two Nakhimov and Peter
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 19 January 2021 07: 23
    +8
    A mighty car. "Granites" will be removed from it, and fifty "Zircons" or even more will be delivered ... Unlimited cruising range ... a very serious air defense, anti-submarine component.
    A kind of "Bismarck" during WWII. You should be afraid of this.
    1. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 19 January 2021 07: 34
      +4
      Without the KUG "Nakhimov" will share the deplorable fate of "Bismarck".
      It is desirable that "Nakhomov" became part of the AUG with "Admiral Kuznetsov" at its head.

      It seems that it is optimal for Russia to have 4 AUGs (2 each in the Federation Council of the Russian Federation and in the Pacific Fleet of the Russian Federation) to protect the areas of SSBN combat duty, as well as to gradually bludgeon any petty scoundrels (except for the scoundrels who are part of NATO).
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 19 January 2021 07: 43
        0
        Quote: Aleksandr1971
        Without the KUG "Nakhimov" will share the deplorable fate of "Bismarck".

        Are the aircraft carriers at the helm again? How will "Kuznetsov" help him?
        1. Sandor Clegane
          Sandor Clegane 19 January 2021 09: 04
          +2
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          How will "Kuznetsov" help him?

          shoot down a Grumman E-2 Hawkeye + anti-aircraft defense first!
        2. Kalmar
          Kalmar 19 January 2021 09: 15
          +2
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Are the aircraft carriers at the helm again? How will "Kuznetsov" help him?

          In its current state - nothing. Unless it will distract the enemy for a while. A normal AB with a full-fledged air group would greatly help reconnaissance (had it at the disposal of AWACS aircraft) and air defense: fighters can meet enemy aircraft before they reach the launch lines of anti-ship missiles. Well, the enemy "Hokai" would have to stay away, which would prevent the enemy from conducting reconnaissance and organizing an attack.
        3. Aleksandr1971
          Aleksandr1971 19 January 2021 11: 39
          -1
          In a direct confrontation with the US AUG, "Nakhimov" and "Kuznetsov" will do nothing. But if their area of ​​combat duty is the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, then, as the previous member of the forum correctly expressed, the enemy's PLO and EW aircraft should be resisted there. That is, against the United States, the function of our AUG will be purely defensive to support SSBNs so that they have time to shoot.

          But in the short term, a major war with the United States is not obvious. Therefore, the AUG is useful for projecting the forces of the Russian Navy against relatively weak opponents that appear from time to time here and there.
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 19 January 2021 08: 06
        +2
        to Av - first 4 lane highways to Krasnoyarsk need to be built
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 19 January 2021 09: 07
          0
          Quote: antivirus
          to Av - first 4 lane highways to Krasnoyarsk need to be built

          Krasnoyarsk is far away. But I hope they will reach Yekaterinburg. Before Kazan will be launched in 23.
          1. antivirus
            antivirus 19 January 2021 10: 22
            -6
            this is how the borders of the country are determined. itself five-level interchanges, serfs - "paved roads."
            it is desirable to demonstrate attention to the eastern and northern regions. but enough of the "distant suburbs".
        2. Aleksandr1971
          Aleksandr1971 19 January 2021 11: 46
          0
          why first to Krasnoyarsk? Why not at the same time? Take the highway to Uelen right away.
  • egor1712
    egor1712 19 January 2021 07: 33
    0
    and it is right!
  • antivirus
    antivirus 19 January 2021 08: 05
    0
    as it became known .. from one source .. Eustace .. authorship is always classified.
    Morse code, sir. there are no links to tlg, "came by vatsapu" WashingtonPost or .. "correspondent in one port city"
    on the HYIP, this is where the money went instead of building 10 units of AB ro 100VI.
    the more I read popular articles about the navy, the stronger the feeling that naval sailors will have to die on orders, and not when they are ready for war.
  • Bradley
    Bradley 19 January 2021 08: 10
    +3
    On a volley like two Tikanderogs! Very powerful! These are the ships that our fleet needs!
    Here is really good news that not just another minesweeper, corvette or frigate, but a nuclear cruiser!
    1. Runway
      Runway 19 January 2021 08: 47
      0
      Only Ticonderoga - 22 units ....
      Two Tarkers will be dragged across the fleets and will be "knitting" KUG around them. And without steamers, the PMO and the KUG ravine may not sail far.
  • jovanni
    jovanni 19 January 2021 08: 11
    +1
    Rename would. An unfortunate name, despite the fact that the admiral was heroic ...
  • lopvlad
    lopvlad 19 January 2021 08: 24
    +3
    It should be recalled that the ship was withdrawn from the fleet only 9 years after the start of its operation - in 1997.


    9 years is nothing for such a ship, and therefore the withdrawal of an almost new ship from the fleet is a weakening of its defenses, which is a crime.

    It was originally planned that the modernization of the warship should be completed in 2020.


    Even before the onset of 2020, the date for the completion of the modernization of 2022 appeared everywhere, so the pandemic did not contribute anything. If the modernization is not completed in 2022, then it will be possible to say that the pandemic has made adjustments.
  • yuriy55
    yuriy55 19 January 2021 08: 26
    -6
    Encouraging news. good

    However, a number of factors including pandemic, made their own adjustments to the process.

    You don't know where to stick this pandemic ... Everywhere it sticks in like a stick in a wheel. However:
    Members of the Forbes list from Russia did not stand aside either. During the pandemic, the total the fortune of Russian dollar billionaires increased by $ 62 billion - from $ 392 billion to $ 454 billion, according to data from the Forbes Real Time counter, which estimates the change in the fortunes of the world's richest people in real time.

    To whom - a pandemic, and to whom - a darling mother ... lol
    1. Kalmar
      Kalmar 19 January 2021 10: 07
      +1
      Quote: yuriy55
      You do not know where to stick this pandemic ... Everywhere it sticks in like a stick in a wheel.

      From the very beginning I saw that for the country's leadership the pandemic was a gift of fate: now all failures and delays in deadlines can be attributed to it. Directly operation "Y" on a national scale, only here even Coward, Dunce and Experienced did not have to be hired))
    2. faiver
      faiver 19 January 2021 10: 15
      +1
      To whom - a pandemic, and to whom - a darling mother ... lol
      - I do not harbor warm feelings for our oligarchy, but reading such notes from Forbes, one must understand that the state of our oligarchs directly depends on the value of the shares of the enterprises they own, that is, an increase in the aggregate state by 62 billion. dollars does not at all say that the oligarchs earned, stole or laundered this money from the country's budget, but that the value of the shares of their enterprises has grown hi
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 19 January 2021 12: 43
        -1
        Quote: faiver
        that is, an increase in the aggregate fortune by 62 billion. dollars does not at all say that the oligarchs earned, stole or laundered this money from the country's budget, but that the value of the shares of their enterprises has grown

        Who would forbid you to think so? It seems to me that the Russian oligarchs are entirely altruists and benefactors. And so that people would not be jealous of their "hard, sweaty" work, they left to live in "not here" ...
        Here the other day, Mr. Navalny was accused of having received a foreign education, and his daughter, by special order and a protege of the State Department, was also admitted to a foreign "school", without waiting for graduation from the previous one. This is necessary! If only I knew earlier! It turns out that studying abroad today can be regarded as ... How? And for all the polls, or only for those "who need a leg"?
        Back to the oligarchs? Where do we start: with resource extraction or ...?
        I remember about "growing-growing", only it was not the value of the shares:
  • Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 19 January 2021 08: 30
    0
    It was originally planned that the modernization of the warship should be completed in 2020. However, a number of factors, including the pandemic, have made adjustments to the process.
    Initially, the modernization was supposed to be completed in 2018, long before any covids. Something constantly interferes with us)
    On June 13, 2013 "Sevmash" signed a contract with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for the repair and modernization of the cruiser, with its return to the fleet in 2018. Since December 2013, the ship began work on the installation of technological support systems for repair work, as well as unloading and fault detection of equipment
  • Tests
    Tests 19 January 2021 08: 34
    +7
    Messrs. Journalists! Before throwing altered notes from the Zavod magazine, which the "highly professional" press service of the Northern Machine-Building Enterprise, sculpts on the Internet on your knees, open, at least sometimes, Wikipedia. I understand that the press service of SEVMASH hires graduates of the philological faculty of NArFU (teachers of the Russian language and literature), I understand that in Severodvinsk and throughout the Arkhangelsk region since the 60s of the 20th century, the proverb was relevant: go to ped, there is no shame - go to honey, if there is nowhere to go, then go, my friend, to ALTI (Arkhangelsk Forestry Technical Institute) ", but routine maintenance is work and inspections during the operation of equipment that wear a scheduled preventive character. Honestly, repairs, and especially major overhauls, are not routine maintenance. In the morning we were pleased: "Reportedly, work is now underway with cables and other electrical equipment, which is part of the routine overhaul of the warship commissioned in 1988."
    "Mooring tests should be carried out at the berth, which is part of the Sevmash structure." As you read this, questions immediately arise. Was it originally planned to drag the ship for testing by the Northern Sea Route to the Pacific Fleet? Or did you think to conduct tests in the Baltic?
    "After their completion, the cruiser will already enter full-fledged sea trials, which will be performed by its crew, which is currently undergoing training and certification activities." Will there be representatives of SEVMASH and other counterparty enterprises on the Admiral Nakhimov during the sea trials? Where was the ship's commander sent to study and get certified? In December 2020, he was in Severodvinsk, normally he was in charge of the crew, he met with SEVMASH employees, he visited the headquarters of the White Sea naval base ...
    About the terms of repair of ships in the Russian Federation at "VO" have written and discussed many, many times. Sadly enough, the COVID-19 epidemic in May-June and November-December 2020 in Severodvinsk affected many shipbuilders. The epidemic, of course, influenced the delivery time of the cruiser.
    A huge request, gentlemen, journalists, please subscribe to the materials.
  • Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 19 January 2021 09: 03
    0
    It was originally planned that the modernization of the warship should be completed in 2020. However, a number of factors, including the pandemic, have made adjustments to the process. I would like to hope that the new schedule for testing and returning the ship to combat formation will be maintained in full.


    If we face it, a pandemic is in fact biological warfare, and covid waves are enemy attacks. They are carried out in order to destroy our economy. First of all, the military-industrial complex, but in the end, that would be bent all, all the rebellious people. Then divide the Russian Federation into bantustans of the Vukrainy type ...
    1. Kalmar
      Kalmar 19 January 2021 10: 09
      0
      Quote: Whirlwind
      If we face it, a pandemic is in fact biological warfare, and covid waves are enemy attacks. They are carried out in order to destroy our economy.

      Some attacks are very impartial: all of our potential opponents from the covid also got pretty bad.
      1. Whirlwind
        Whirlwind 19 January 2021 10: 26
        -1
        It will be too obvious if their own will bloom, and strangers will fade, and what they are to these creatures ...
        The law of capitalism - "The driven horses are shot."
  • Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
    Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 19 January 2021 09: 10
    +3
    Quote: FRoman1984
    I would like to see Lazarev at Sevmash too. And of course Peter.
    Kirov, apparently, cannot be saved in any way due to problems with the power plant.
    Very beautiful and powerful, really ocean ships. Swan song of the Soviet Union shipbuilding.


    You can save ANY SHIP IN ANY STATE. This is a matter of desire and financial costs - the Americans in WWII could restore and restore ships in any condition, if this ship somehow got to the base.
    As for the topic of the restoration of Lazorev and Kalinin, while reading the articles about the state of the fleet on this site, the thought more and more often comes to me: if you believe the articles from the Military Review, the command of the Russian Navy is occupied by either mournful minds or pests (as an option, agents foreign intelligence services).
  • Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 19 January 2021 10: 52
    0
    twofold news, on the one hand it is good that the rusted and sentenced cruiser was rescued (and I personally was the initiator of this idea), on the other hand, it is clear that he will not have ocean missions, he will be the coastal leader of PLO frigates, on the third hand, the money for repairs was so much that it is unclear whether it was all necessary to start, and as a result Lazarev was ruined by cutting the budgets for the repair of Nakhimov ... and where does the coronavirus come from?
  • dgonni
    dgonni 19 January 2021 11: 34
    +3
    It's a pity the ship got into timelessness! And it's good that everything went well for him. Things are much worse with Lazarev at the Pacific Fleet. These are epic ships that could last at least 45-50 years. But, unfortunately, they were simply not lucky. I am glad that they are returning to duty!
    Seven feet under the keel!
  • Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
    Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 19 January 2021 14: 49
    +1
    Quote: vladimir1155
    on the other hand, it is clear that he will not have ocean missions, he will be the coastal leader of ASW frigates


    However, the old wisdom says: "God works in mysterious ways"... and the hero of one famous film said:"a dagger is good for someone who has it and bad for someone who does not have it at the right time ", and therefore, it would be better to have a modernized cruiser, but it would be better if all four !!!
    Yours faithfully, hi
  • silverura
    silverura 19 January 2021 18: 53
    +1
    A beautiful ship, you can't argue. But only the expediency of such a displacement with the current technology is in doubt. But nevertheless - the legend is alive and it's nice. Nobody canceled the effect of intimidation from size! wink
  • viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 20 January 2021 07: 43
    0
    PANDEMIA PANADS USYO ??? Now it will be possible to write off anything under this demia ... and an invasion of aliens from a very distant galaxy is on the way. wassat But I really want this magnificent cruiser from the USSR to develop and go on long trips drinks
  • Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
    Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 20 January 2021 10: 19
    0
    Quote: vladimir1155
    I personally initiated this idea


    Dear Vladimir1155, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOU HELPED OUR HOMELAND TO SAVE THIS CRUISER
  • AC130 Ganship
    AC130 Ganship 20 January 2021 19: 27
    0
    I am writing a commentary answer to Igor-Aviator to another article, because I can’t go there. What kind of aircraft "bypassed" the Su-24 in the history of aviation ??? He was catching up with the previously created F111, which, by the way, had already been taken out of service for 20 years, as it was flying off its