Japan announced its intention to finally resolve the issue of the ownership of the Northern Territories

Japan intends to finally resolve the issue of the ownership of the southern Kuril Islands (Northern Territories). This was stated by the country's Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga.

Speaking with a keynote speech at the opening of the parliamentary session, Suga stressed that the Japanese government plans to finally close the issue with Russia on the ownership of the Northern Territories (Kuril Islands), without leaving its decision for the future.

The issue of the northern territories should not be passed on to future generations; it must be finalized

- said the Japanese prime minister.

At the same time, Suga noted that in relations with Russia he would adhere to the same course as his predecessor as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, i.e. develop the entire range of Russian-Japanese relations, including the conclusion of a peace treaty, relying on previous agreements between the countries.

Recall that in December last year, Yoshihide Suga said that he had held telephone talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin, during which the topic of the Northern Territories was raised. According to the Japanese Prime Minister, he announced his readiness to "go through with this issue to the end."

Earlier, the Japanese government said that they still consider the islands of the South Kuril Islands as primordially Japanese territories, and insist that Japan's sovereignty should extend to all "northern territories."

At the same time, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Russia is not considering transferring the Kuril Islands to Japan when concluding a peace treaty. According to him, Russia's sovereignty over the islands is undeniable and will not be discussed.

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[Uncle lee]

Russia's sovereignty over the islands is undeniable and will not be discussed.

In so much time our Japanese partners could have learned it by heart, in Japanese, English and Russian!

[semenov]

Quote from Uncle Lee

For so long, our Japanese partners could have learned it by heart, in Japanese, English and Russian

Yeah. And for so long they could have dumped new "Northern Territories" for themselves - they have the technologies.

[Tatyana]

Lavrov said that Russia is not considering transferring the Kuril Islands to Japan when concluding a peace treaty. According to him, Russia's sovereignty over the islands is undeniable and will not be discussed.

Unfortunately, Japan's appetite for the ownership of the Northern Territories (Southern Kuriles) and their transfer by peaceful means from the USSR / Russia has been growing for a long time, as soon as during the Japanese ORDER of food in a "Russian restaurant".

Khrushchev promised the Japanese, for the sake of signing a peace treaty, to transfer only two Kuril Islands, Shikotan and Habomai. But no, give the Japanese after the war all 2! And besides, the Japanese Nazis have already heard requests to transfer to the Japanese half of Sakhalin and the entire Kuril ridge!

The Japanese threaten to take the Kuril Islands from Russia by staging a war. • 25 Aug. Feb 2020


Will Russia give the Kuriles to the new Japanese prime minister? 16 Oct 2020

[Reptiloid]

Good day, Tatyana!

.....The Japanese threaten to take away ...

Throughout their history, the Japs have tried to climb the mainland, although they have never lived there. All of them have little space, exorbitant appetites. Ours, in my opinion, in vain allowed them to travel to the burial places of the Japanese aggressors, whose crimes were recognized. Why it was all in general, I do not understand. What concessions? They honor their war criminals, despite their own recognition and the courts. There can be no compromise with them.

[Tatyana]

Good day to you, Dmitry!

Quote: Reptiloid

Throughout their history, the Japs have tried to climb the mainland, although they have never lived there. All of them have little space, exorbitant appetites.

The Japanese imperialists never considered other nationalities as people. The Japanese imperialists dreamed of reaching the Ural Mountains in the USSR / Russia !!!

Suffice it to recall the Japanese Detachment 731 with its inhuman experiments on living people to create by the Japanese their own bacteriological and chemical weapons. And the destruction by the Japanese of more than 800 thousand Chinese prisoners of war who surrendered to the Japanese for Japan's propaganda promise to save their lives, feed them and give them freedom if they were loyal to the Japanese authorities, what was it worth ?!

It was the United States that made sure that after WWII the same pre-war and war criminals came to power in Japan and that the Nazi party in Japan was revived. In this regard, the two-party system in power in Japan does not change anything. Both parties are two boots - a pair.

[krot]

Quote: antivirus

fellows Yapi-Carthage must be destroyed ..
Will Karfanen be destroyed in the Far East?

Your Sumerian Carthage will surely come soon ..

[Reptiloid]

Here on the Military Review there were discussions of their atrocities, and about the Nanking massacre, and about inhuman experiments on people.

........ other nationalities did not consider people ...

, there is also evidence of the cannibalism of Japanese soldiers during the Second World War. They had an expression --- black pork, white pork ... ... it's about people ... the atrocities of the Japanese shocked even the Papuans, residents of New Guinea, who they were once cannibals, and during WW2 they secretly helped Australian and American soldiers to defeat the Japanese as soon as possible ... (who hunted people like game with special otiyadami)
Even George W. Bush, who was a pilot in 1944, almost fell victim. He got lucky. Saved. But some other American pilots were eaten. What was documented.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Again twenty-five! Or the next Japanese mantras on the topic: "How to fly into closed tightly glass door! Why glass? So the Japanese see "their" islands, swimming close, and lick their lips on them, they are so close, but inaccessible!
As for the "decisive final promises", I believe it will be "like yesterday."

[BARKHAN]

You wrote everything very correctly. But ... it is not clear ... why you are saying this, and not Lavrov or Putin. With imaginary political correctness, you brought yourself into this situation.

[dmmyak40]

It is necessary to approve such an entry procedure: for example, 100 Japanese are allowed to enter.
If one of the officials barks about the Kuril problem, the quota is cut into 10. And so every time, until either they understand it, or the quota is zero.

[English tarantas]

Entry where? I think the Japanese will not be very upset if they cannot go to Korea, China and Russia.

[dmmyak40]

To the Kuriles. Where else do they like to ride. What do they have there? Ancestral graves?

[English tarantas]

They honor their war criminals

Alas, any hero in a war "chokes" in blood. And the war was terrible, but what to do if your own grandfather or great-grandfather died there, who went to war with good thoughts about the greatness and prosperity of his native country and village. It is not worth telling on all sides, but you can still remember and honor.

There can be no compromise with them.

Since when are the Japanese and Ali soft in their decisions? If we build a dialogue this way, then there will be no agreement at all.

[Reptiloid]

So they ---- compromise and don't want only compliance with their requirements-claims, such as --- or give more of everything, or increase our claims

[Jager]

Let the "greatness of the native country" build on their island and not climb.

[English tarantas]

Forgot to shout "Uryayayayayaya". And then where should we build greatness? Can I climb into Syria? To Ukraine? Maybe let's demand from tomorrow all the territories that once belonged to the Russian Empire?
And, by the way, they build on their islands, and it turns out better than some.

[abrakadabre]

Ours, in my opinion, in vain allowed them to travel to the graves of the Japanese aggressors, whose crimes were recognized. Why it was all in general, I do not understand. What concessions? They honor their war criminals, despite their own recognition and the courts.

It is possible to arrange approaches to burials so that there is only one way to go. And there, to organize compulsory expositions with descriptions of the crimes of Japanese Nazism in WWII. In Japanese. And to introduce Hiroshima and Nagasaki there. And with the crimes of Americans in the first decade of the occupation.
That is, if you want to visit the grave of an ancestor, listen to a lecture on what these ancestors had time to do before they were dug in. On a strictly mandatory basis.

[Jager]

send the graves home

[Piramidon]

They still have to answer for "Varyag".

[yehat2]

Japan does not need the territories themselves, it only needs that they give more control around.
Their population of the nearby island is decreasing.
And since there is no real need, then they insist only out of traditional solidarity with their predecessors.
In addition, the question arises in the very term "return".
Has this territory always belonged to the Japanese?
The islands themselves came under Japanese control relatively recently under an agreement with RI.
So all the basis that the Japanese have for their claims is a few decades of belonging under the agreement they themselves knocked out with RI. And our reasons for owning this land are much more serious. It is very bad that the irresponsible statements of Khrushchev, Yeltsin and Putin about negotiations on these territories are fueling this issue.
It seems to me that the issue needs to be closed, and for this the Japaneseists need to work carefully in order to explore culturally acceptable peaceful options for the Japanese.
The position that the Russian Federation now occupies is essentially speculative and risky in this matter.
And this is irresponsible. We must close territorial differences long ago and calmly cooperate with Japan.

[Woland]

technology that is, land for dumping - no

[English tarantas]

Well, this is mainly the Americans need, so let them move Okinawa together, together with the base at once.

[Jager]

And the Strategic Missile Forces of the Russian Federation will help.

[abrakadabre]

technology that is, land for dumping - no

How is it not ?! Their islands are mountainous. Let them make them flat, and fill in the surplus new territory.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Uncle Lee

Russia's sovereignty over the islands is undeniable and will not be discussed.

In so much time our Japanese partners could have learned it by heart, in Japanese, English and Russian!

The trouble is that our "fathers-commanders" themselves gave the yapps hope in the form of the 1954 declaration, which was mentioned during the negotiations with Abe.
I hope they will forget about the declaration forever.

[Alex777]

Nothing else but the Kuril Islands are Russian, with this generation they will not achieve.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Alex777

Nothing else but the Kuril Islands are Russian, with this generation they will not achieve.

Alas, this does not depend on us. As our fathers-commanders decide, so it will be. Gifts to the Chinese, mattress covers, and Norwegians are still fresh in my memory.

[Nross]

This EBN something - your father-commander ??
Well, then Bald is not a traitor to the Motherland, but a respectable grandfather.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Nross

This EBN something - your father-commander ??
Well, then Bald is not a traitor to the Motherland, but a respectable grandfather.

You might think that only good commanders (chiefs) commanded you all the time. Surely there were some bad ones. But, it seems to me, you, in spite of this, still obeyed them (their orders or orders), and since you obeyed, it means that you considered them commanders (chiefs).

[Lionnvrsk]

According to the Japanese prime minister, he announced his readiness "to go all the way in this matter."

Eh, he will have to take kusungoba and do seppuku!

[Reptiloid]

Quote: LIONnvrsk

According to the Japanese prime minister, he announced his readiness "to go all the way in this matter."

Eh, he will have to take kusungoba and do seppuku!

he was not the first, he promised it, and probably after him they will not stop promising. .. None of the ministers died from sepuku, neither in this century, nor in the past.

[Volkof]

Transfer of the islands is out of the question! The point is not only the loss of control over the richest sea areas, but also the destruction of transport logistics for the entire Far Eastern coast of the country ... And there is no need for political, ethical, historical and cultural chatter! This is impossible in principle ...

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Uncle Lee

Russia's sovereignty over the islands is undeniable and will not be discussed.

In so much time our Japanese partners could have learned it by heart, in Japanese, English and Russian!

And just figure Putin will give them before the end of the term and jump from his post, and he can not do anything, the law on the immunity of former presidents has been signed

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Vol4ara

law on immunity of former presidents signed

This is a gorgeous indulgence for presidents - it can twist a business and nothing will happen to him - touch him nizzya!
And in South Korea, Chon Doo Hwan and Ro De Woo were imprisoned after the presidency ... And President Park was generally swept by a quarter during the performance!

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Vol4ara

And think Putin will give them before the end of the term and jump from his post,

Does it make sense for him to do this before demobilization? For money or for Japanese citizenship? Putin can give them, except "from a dead donkey sushi"

[Jager]

Both signed and canceled. Circus technologies have already been worked out.

[Vend]

Quote: Uncle Lee

Russia's sovereignty over the islands is undeniable and will not be discussed.

In so much time our Japanese partners could have learned it by heart, in Japanese, English and Russian!

It can be seen finally learned. We must wait for the recognition of the Kuril Islands by Russia.

[bk0010]

Sergey Viktorovich Lavrov silently opened the diplomat, put on the table a can of horseradish, ears cut off from a toy donkey, a leaf of a fig palm tree, an XXL dildo, lit a cigarette and with a polite smile greeted the head of the Japanese delegation that had arrived for negotiations on the Kuril Islands ...
The Japanese translator was late
Lavrov improvised as best he could.

[zenion]

They need the islands for American bases. What did not succeed with the Crimea should be possible even here, so the Japanese decided under American heels.

[210ox]

This already looks like a statement to take the islands by force .. Hiroshima and Nagasaki seem to have taught the yapps nothing.

[hagen]

Quote: 210ox

This already looks like a statement to take the islands by force ..

Rather, it sounds like what parliament wants to hear from him. And in political showdowns, it happens that they do not always do what they promise. The main thing is that those who listen today should believe.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Hagen

And in political showdowns, it happens that they do not always do what they promise. The main thing is that those who listen today should believe.

The main thing is to believe both there and there.
Today only one person can give / sell islands with impunity.

[kartalovkolya]

Well, stupid or have not read the amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation! After all, there it is said "in white" about the territorial integrity and indivisibility of Russia! "Ears you from a dead donkey": as the classics said through the mouth of comrade O. Bender !!!

[Pereira]

The ridiculous thing to refer to is the constitution. Tomorrow Tereshkova will crawl out and say - let's give it back. And we will all vote in a unified manner in the referendum - for. Not the first time and not the last.

[kartalovkolya]

Semi-venerable "ebony dealer", if you have difficulties with brain activity, then you shouldn't come here, but in "Kashchenko"! So either fools or enemies of Russia reason. !!!

[Pereira]

The enemy of Russia is the one who rigged the election results. But he seems to be a friend to you.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: kartalovkolya

Semi-venerable "ebony dealer", if you have difficulties with brain activity, then you shouldn't come here, but in "Kashchenko"! So either fools or enemies of Russia reason. !!!

These "uryakalki" like you are the main enemies of Russia.

[Pereira]

And judging by the cons, there are more uryakalok on the site.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Pereira

And judging by the cons, there are more uryakalok on the site.

No, they just have certain topics where they constantly hang out, and we climbed into their reserve and with our "dirty paws" violated the virgin purity of their inter-aural ganglion. They do not even answer, because they do not know how to think coherently, and expressing their thoughts "on paper" is absolutely impossible work for them. So it remains for them to put cons. I pressed the button and killed my opponent. Convenient, isn't it?

[Pereira]

It's like that. And in this they are no different from puppies. The same wretchedness.

[RUSS]

Quote: Pereira

The ridiculous thing to refer to is the constitution.

The amendment by the president was formulated as a new paragraph in this article of the Constitution:

"2−1. The Russian Federation protects its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Actions (with the exception of delimitation, demarcation, re-demarcation of the state border of the Russian Federation with neighboring states) aimed at alienating part of the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as calls for such actions, are not allowed. ”

Confused by the paragraph - "and with the exception of demarcation" ......

[Pereira]

Everything is correctly noticed.
This amendment, like the fine print in a loan agreement, nullifies (what a good and deep word) the entire text above.
If necessary, lawyers will justify everything.

[Cron]

Quote: Pereira

The ridiculous thing to refer to is the constitution.

Of course not, you need to refer to Pereira on the Internet

Tomorrow Tereshkova will crawl out and say - let's give it back. And we will all vote in a unified manner in the referendum - for.

You like it will probably vote. It is not necessary to understand the whole nation by WE

[Pereira]

It doesn't matter how YOU or I personally vote. It is important that our votes are counted as the authorities need. Moreover, as you understand, it is not the aunts at the polling stations that will count.
Remember how you laughed at the Soviet "Odobryams"? I remember.

[Flooding]

Quote: Pereira

It doesn't matter how YOU or I personally vote. It is important that our votes are counted as the authorities need.

Well, not that bad. Or is it really "all gone, chief"?
You don't like urya-mood. And there is a reason for that.
But decadent sentiments are at the other extreme.

[Pereira]

For a small business, "it's all gone, boss." Soon everything will be scooped up by large corporations, and entrepreneurs will go to them as clerks.
Nevertheless, judging by the constant tightening of screws, it is precisely those in power that are in decay. They are afraid that people will stop watching TV.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Pereira

For a small business, "it's all gone, boss." Soon everything will be scooped up by large corporations, and entrepreneurs will go to them as clerks.

Not all is lost, we will still fight. I want to eat))))

[Pereira]

I sincerely wish you success.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Pereira

Tomorrow Tereshkova will crawl out and say - let's give it back. And we will all vote in a unified manner in the referendum - for.

The authorities are not as stupid as some here to submit such a question to a referendum.
Any government will agree to hold a referendum only if the decision of the referendum is 100% expected (and desirable) for the government.

[Pereira]

Yes, about the blunt to the point. Propaganda does its dirty work. But, on the other hand, now no one can say - we were deceived.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: antivirus

Will Karfanen be destroyed in the Far East?

But I don't remember whether they applied to the UN or not? Maybe they will be fully explained there why the islands were transferred to the Soviet Union - Russia if this generation of Japanese is not in the subject ?!

[Yang yangov]

come to terms with fate ..

[Pereira]

Quote: antivirus

Will Karfanen be destroyed in the Far East?

You're right, it's time for Japan to feed the fish.

[Snail N9]

Something tells me that it will be like this: they will promise to withdraw the American bases from Japan, work out with the Americans a "road map" for a gradual withdrawal, for a period of .... twelve years. The Kremlin is like, it shoots up and allows the yapas to come to the islands, settle down and so on. Around the islands they will announce joint activities and all that ... Then, everyone will forget that the Americans promised to withdraw their bases from Japan or postpone the withdrawal for an indefinite period ... Or maybe there is another option, a billion or several billion dollars, which The United States undertakes not to seize (or the equivalent in gold or other values) and ... well, and then there is room for imagination ...

[Bullba]

Are you for the alienation of Russian territories?

[Fitter65]

Quote: antivirus

fellows Yapi-Carthage must be destroyed ..
Will Karfanen be destroyed in the Far East?

What kind of Carthage are you talking about? The Japanese have a lot of them in the north. The northernmost Wakkanai, then Hamatombetsu, Essashi, Tesio ... And how should they be destroyed like the Americans in Tokyo in 1944 or like Hiroshima from Nagasaki? These are not our methods - let them live in their cities peacefully and quietly, otherwise God forbid they will have to talk about the more southern northern territories, but do we need it?

[olegactor]

but enough strength ...

[Crowe]

Japan intends to finally resolve the issue of belonging to the southern Kuril Islands

The issue has already been resolved:

Russia's sovereignty over the islands is undeniable and will not be discussed.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Crowe

The issue has already been resolved:
"Russia's sovereignty over the islands is undeniable and will not be discussed."

Well, why, you can discuss the issue of belonging to Hokkaido.

[Machito]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Crowe

The issue has already been resolved:
"Russia's sovereignty over the islands is undeniable and will not be discussed."

Well, why, you can discuss the issue of belonging to Hokkaido.

I agree with you. It is necessary to put forward counter-territorial claims.
Hokkaido - Russian Land, illegally occupied by the Japanese.

[faiver]

did anyone think again they stated it?

[antivirus]

each statement consolidates yap society and allows to reduce subsidies - gingerbread to people - and so, for the slogans they support - this is an economy, apparently tremendous for the yap state.

[alexmach]

It is not.
Firstly, as far as I can tell, the average Japanese does not understand why they need these islands. In general, their society is not particularly politicized to talk about the "refrigerator and TV" disputes.
Secondly, I am not aware of something about the reduction of benefits and subsidies in Japan.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: faiver

did anyone think again they stated it?

Since 1945, and endlessly. They have such a mentality.

[NDR-791]

They have such a mentality.
However, the samurai is now crushing. Failure to fulfill publicly given promises is a "loss of face". There is no worse situation for a samurai !!! Which of their balabolic prime ministers made a head-ax? Nobody!!! So we understand that it will end with conversations.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: NDR-791

Failure to fulfill publicly given promises is a "loss of face". There is no worse situation for a samurai !!!

Transferred samurai, "We choose Peipsi!"

[kit88]

The "final decision" comes down to the recognition of Russian sovereignty, I understand.
Well, well done, they finally figured it out.

[Alexander X]

All Japanese who want to "finally solve their problem" can only hang themselves.
From the donkey their ears, not the islands ...

[Asad]

Understood nothing, backed down? Or will they go to war? The second option is unlikely!

[Voltsky]

Given the fact that Japan is prone to Stockholm Syndrome, the transfer of the Kuril Islands to it increases the risks for Sakhalin, and for the Pacific naval bases.
So it is unlikely, here is the opportunity for the Japanese to settle on the islands or they will be allowed to conduct economic activities, maybe even with reservations.

[KCA]

I don’t understand why they only demand the islands? Would you inflate your cheeks and return South Sakhalin, or are they afraid that the face will crack?

[Sergej1972]

Because the southern part of the Kuriles had never entered our country until 1945. We received it by the right of the victor in the war.

[KCA]

And what does the southern part of the Kuriles have to do with it? Yapi want the northern islands based on the results of the Russo-Japanese War of 1904-1905:

Thus, according to the results of the peace, Russia was obliged to fulfill the following points: to transfer southern Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands to Japan; to recognize Japan's right to colonial expansion of Korea; renounce claims to Manchuria; transfer to Japan the ownership of Port Arthur; pay an indemnity to Japan for the maintenance of prisoners.

I am writing, but why do they not open their mouths to Sakhalin?

[Sergej1972]

They officially claim four islands in the southern ridge of the Kuril Islands 9, in fact, one of them is a small archipelago). They call them "northern territories". They do not officially claim to the central and northern part of the Kuriles. The position of the extreme organizations does not count. I am in favor of giving nothing to the Japanese. But, indeed, it is a fact that the southern ridge of the Kuril Islands (everything south of Urup Island) was never part of the Russian Empire, it was under the control of Japan and until the signing of the Petersburg Treaty of 1875, according to which all Kurils became Japanese, and Sakhalin was recognized as Russian territory. https://w.histrf.ru/articles/article/show/pietierburgskii_dogovor_1875

[KCA]

If 4 islands are transferred, the Sea of ​​Okhotsk will lose its internal status, with all the ensuing economic losses and military threats

[Volkof]

Even if 2 islands are transferred, then the deep-water channel will be covered for reaching the ocean from the coastal zone and the entire Pacific Fleet of the Russian Navy will be under the control of Japan and the pi_ndos .... They will not get anything! Why do you think they are building a base there? And why are there many sunken ships? Not just like that! This is an outpost for ensuring navigation, including military, and control of an important transport sea artery ...

[Avior]

transfer southern Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands to Japan

only southern Sakhalin, about the Kuril speech did not go.
The Kuril Islands were transferred to Japan peacefully much earlier, in 1875. St. Petersburg Treaty of 1875.

[Sergej1972]

I will repeat myself a little. The southern ridge of the Kuriles was Japanese before the signing of the St. Petersburg Treaty. But this is not a reason for them to give it away.

[Avior]

until 1945 it was not called that anywhere
The Kuril Islands are listed in the St. Petersburg Treaty by name.

[Sergej1972]

Well I use modern terminology. What is south of Urup was Japanese until 1875. https://w.histrf.ru/articles/article/show/pietierburgskii_dogovor_1875

[ZEMCH]

Quote: Sergej1972

Because the southern part of the Kuriles had never entered our country until 1945. We received it by the right of the victor in the war.

From June 24, 1778, all the Kurils and even Matsumai (now Japanese Hokkaido) were considered part of the Russian Empire, until 1855, when, according to the Shimoda treaty, Russia abandoned the islands of Kunashir, Iturup, Shikotan and Habomai, which went to Japan, the islands north of The Iturup Islands were declared the possessions of Russia, and Sakhalin continued to remain a joint, indivisible possession of the two countries.
In 1875, in exchange for ownership of Sakhalin, Russia transferred all the Kuril Islands to Japan.
After the war of 1905, Japan also received South Sakhalin.
Everything came back after 1945))))

[tagil]

When the part of Sakhalin captured by the Japanese returned to us, several hundred thousand Japanese lived there, who agreed to stay and take USSR citizenship, in general, become full citizens of the USSR. But Stalin did not fall for this and all the Japanese were evicted. Now Japan would have dragged the Japanese from Sakhalin to the northern territories (I don't know how, human rights or territorial claims, I would have found how), but these Japanese would be another reason for "pressure" on Russia, including territorially.

here is the opportunity for the Japanese to settle on the islands or they will be allowed to conduct economic activities, maybe even with reservations.

So let them go through the woods.

[Voltsky]

They crush the weak, it has always been like that ...
The presence of land tenants with a residence permit on this territory does not change anything; because no one forbade throwing passports from a helicopter.
It's another matter when you respond to all their inclinations in the style of "Gromyko" - My genital organ is on your collar, and not control over territories; and as an argument the bayonets of the marines;

[tagil]

It's another matter when you respond to all their inclinations in the style of "Gromyko" - My genital organ is on your collar, and not control over territories; and as an argument the bayonets of the marines;

This is true, but the work with the local population on the part of Japan has not been canceled, so in any case the Japanese would be a "headache". And to what extent this "work" would have reached, one could only guess. And so there are no Japanese, no problem.

[Voltsky]

it's like an electric kettle; there is no it and you do not care whether you drink tea - coffee or just running water.
It's easier, isn't it?! :)
It was the presence of problems, and attempts to solve them, that made us the most aggressive creatures on the planet :)

I don’t know how easy it is to explain the word Stagnation, sorry :)
ps koba was guided by others when he refused yap :)

[tagil]

Why Koba abandoned the Japanese 70 years ago, right now, does not matter, since the world has changed. There, some bald Czech without fear declared that Russia should be punished for the detention of Navalny. Czech Karl !!!!!

[Voltsky]

as far as I remember, they are treating you exactly as much as you allow; it has always been, it always will be.
Who said the world has changed ?! :) The presence of a mobile in your pocket does not cancel gopniks on the streets, corrupt cops and friends of alcoholics :)))

[Voltsky]

usually to threaten; you need something with which you can threaten, and for this you need to create something with which you can threaten.
And what do you have besides the Army ?! :)
It is necessary to work here, long and hard; because kittens breed quickly, and it takes time.

Take you, for example, you are afraid of the Japanese, and the presence of controlled Japanese, whose selfish interests are tied to the Russian Federation, is also a lever, because you can always say we will fuck them out, and we have a good army and you will not do anything to us, and they will become your problem ...

[Voltsky]

remember one simple thing, bilateral relations are like a crowbar that both hold onto, but if something happens, the one who is stronger will drive this crowbar into the chest of his counterpart :)

[tagil]

I do not know where you are from and what you are afraid of, but why Russia should be afraid of Japan or the United States, or any other country, I do not understand. The army, the Russian army, is a guarantee that Russia can send anyone on an erotic journey, and even escort to the place on any political issue. Having an army, which, according to you, we only have, my country is sovereign, and if something happens, having the entire periodic table in its land and production, it can be self-sufficient, unlike very, very many countries on this planet.

Take you, for example, you are afraid of the Japanese, and the presence of controlled Japanese, whose selfish interests are tied to the Russian Federation, is also a lever, because you can always say we will fuck them out,

Russia is a multinational country, recognizing the Japanese as its full-fledged citizens (and not like the Balts, who have in their country, although when did these have their own states? "Inferior" people), you cannot just throw them out, we are not Jews.

remember one simple thing, bilateral relations are like a crowbar that both hold onto, but if something happens, the one who is stronger will drive this crowbar into the chest of his counterpart :)

That's right, I do not consider us weak, and if Lavrov speaks politely, this does not mean that this can always be so.

[Voltsky]

I'm just from the Baltics :)

With regard to the deposits of wealth in the Russian Federation, China ranks first in terms of rare earth elements; and your main wealth lies in hard-to-reach places, which increases the cost of their extraction, which in other ways does not prevent you from being self-sufficient.

And I did not say anywhere that the Russian Federation is weak, but only pointed out that you have much less leverage than you would like and what you think :) I also did not talk about the recognition of the Japanese as citizens, of course I am vaguely explaining, but some things are specific I voice; do not produce entities.

[tagil]

And I did not say anywhere that the Russian Federation is weak, but only pointed out that you have much less leverage than you would like, and than you think

Look, if we don't use these levers, it doesn't mean we don't have them. Another thing is that the government does not want to use them. Why, this is not in my competence. But it is quite possible to make life in the Baltics, Ukraine or Georgia a nightmare. But why do we need not citizens at all? I personally do not need such behavior of migrants in my country as in Europe.

[Voltsky]

you confuse soft with warm :)
levers of pressure, and it hurts not the same thing ... The Czech Republic, just then there was a talk about it, you can, as in a joke, "turn off the gas". And there are no levers of pressure, lobbyist cantors and all sorts of malicious NGOs are engaged in this.

In general, I heard you; you jump from topic to topic; and are unable to reasonably support your point of view, if you have one at all; as long as I smell isolationism and trosh phobias, all the best :)

[RUSS]

Quote: Voletsky

considering the fact that Japan is prone to Stockholm Syndrome,

2018: 70 people protest against US base in Okinawa
In Japan, a large-scale protest was held against the presence of the US military on the island of Okinawa. The rally gathered 70 thousand inhabitants of the island, dissatisfied with the proposal of the authorities to move the base to another place within the prefecture.

[Voltsky]

not happy, this is good, in Russia you are not happy with it, and in general in the world you are not happy with it.
Fortunately, it is not the herd of holy fools who decide what will happen and how.

[RUSS]

Quote: Voletsky

Fortunately, it is not the herd of holy fools who decide what will happen and how.

How do you say about yourself)))).

[Voltsky]

like a troll? :) there Lyosha was detained, go free him, or do your homework :)

[RUSS]

Quote: Voletsky

like a troll? :) there Lyosha was detained, go free him, or do your homework :)

Teacher)))) according to the rules of the Russian language, it is necessary to write "type" in the meaning of "kind", in the context of, say, the sentence: "This is a detail of the first type."
Apparently you didn't do your homework.

[Sergej1972]

The inhabitants of the island of Okinawa are slightly different from the other inhabitants of this country. The Ryukyu Kingdom became an integral part of Japan only in 1879, it paid tribute to China for a long time. And the people in Okinawa are more lively.

[Mykhalych]

"According to the Japanese prime minister, he announced his readiness" to go to the end on this issue. "-hara-kiri; seppuku ... which will choose, and

[Lech from Android.]

Yeah, with the entry of Japan into Russia, the issue of the Kuril Islands will be finally resolved.

[rotmistr60]

Suga noted that in relations with Russia he will adhere to the same course as his predecessor as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe

Have you already sworn on your father's grave? Them at the door, they try to out the window. Probably they think that Japanese hard work and perseverance are simply obliged to give results. It won't work with the Kuriles and it's time to put an end to it - you won't get it.

[Lord of the Sith]

Japan announced its intention to finally resolve the issue of the ownership of the Northern Territories

And how, one wonders?

Vaughn, Abe swore on his father's grave that he would return the Kuril Islands. And where is his oath?
As for me, this Jap had to open his belly with a samurai saber after such a shame.

[Knell wardenheart]

The last Japanese intention.
Maybe the guys have completely forgotten how to understand something like a manga? Probably they need to draw and send how we understand the Kuril Islands.

[Alien From]

The Japanese speaks correctly, the question is closed for them forever, the islands are ours!

[rocket757]

Japan announced its intention to finally resolve the issue of the ownership of the Northern Territories

Again twenty-five ... start already, we will see and appreciate their attempts.

[iouris]

Where is the beginning of that end, the end of which is the beginning?

[don-1500]

The Japanese are planning an attack, everything is very serious. How enraged these comments about "donkey ears".

[Cron]

Quote: don-1500

The Japanese are planning an attack, everything is very serious.

Which one are they planning to attack? Politicians only earn political points and prepare the ground for a possible change in the political situation in Russia.
You don't need to read this kind of news if you take everything so personally.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: don-1500

The Japanese are planning an attack, everything is very serious.

[Ripap]

And in fact? The complete superiority of the Japanese in forces and means in the theater of operations, everything is exactly like in 1904. The use of nuclear weapons against a non-nuclear power, firstly, is a fierce zashkvar, and secondly, it is fraught with the complete destruction of Russia and the whole world. What are we going to do, to throw hats again according to the good old tradition?

[Zaurbek]

The right decision! The question must be closed.

[Cowbra]

Did the previous prime minister cut his navel over the graves of his ancestors? And he promised?
In short, go ... To the geisha. Until the geisha himself was made

[Rose capone]

Letter to the President of Russia: - Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich. The president of a small African country is writing to you. We respect your country and the Russian people very much, but there is one paradox! Those whom you defeated now live well, for example the Germans, Swedes, French, Japanese. Please defeat us ...
An old Japanese saying: "If you want to hope for something, hope only for cremation, it is inevitable, like cherry blossoms in spring."

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Rosa Capone

French, Japanese. Please defeat us ...

The French, who work for Renault, give them cars for seventy-five percent of the cost of the car. For five years.

[Sayan]

Does he want Japan to become the Japanese edge of the Russian Federation? There are no other options)))

[Simargl]

Japan intends to finally resolve the issue of belonging to the southern Kuril Islands (Northern Territories)

Firstly, this is not in the jurisdiction of Russia: the Japanese can do whatever they want with their territories.
Secondly, the "northern territories" is Hokkaido, or what? There is even a memorial with a reminder that this is the northernmost point of Japanese land (inhabited, since a little to the north is uninhabited island Benten-Dzima).

[shinobi]

Are you going to fight? No? Well, the dog barks, the wind carries, the caravan goes! And whether the caravan will reach the place, only the caravan's donkey knows.

[Andre___86]

Each new prime minister promises it

[Redfox3k]

and insist that Japan's sovereignty should extend to all "northern territories"

Yeah ... Keep your pocket wider.

[Simargl]

Quote: Redfox3k

Yeah ... Keep your pocket wider.

Why? Let them observe what they themselves wrote ... they have a memorial on the northern coast of Hokkaido with a reminder that this is the northernmost point of Japanese land. What are the other questions?

[Gunner]

I am now looking on YouTube about fishing on Fr. Sakhalin and about. Kunashir and about. Iturup video of B. Ryabchenkov, and so I personally will come to fight for these islands if necessary.

[sleeve]

It's time to move on to modeling the "return". After such a "bazaar" it would be necessary to prepare your own "station" ...

[Dimide]

Why do you need those islands? Is money invested there, or is the infrastructure developing, the population is increasing, or are minerals being developed?
Would sell for good money and preferences on the condition of not locating military bases and that's it.

[Rose capone]

"" "" Why do you need those islands? Would sell for good money and preferences ... "" "" "
So we are not Shevardnadzy, Mazepa, Yushchenko, Yanukovych, Waltzman, Zelenskiy, Yaytsenyukh and so on. selling trash. This rotten gesheft is not in the Russian mentality.

[Dimide]

Remind Alaska or Damansky ?.
What's the use of those islands?

[Dread]

Quote: Dimid

Remind Alaska or Damansky ?.
What's the use of those islands?

Russia will lose a lot when transferring data from the islands, including:
1. The United States will deploy its bases on the islands in accordance with the security treaty.
2. The Sea of ​​Okhotsk will come under international control. Now the Sea of ​​Okhotsk is the territory of Russia.
Bioresources in it Russian at this time.
3. The exit of Russian SSBNs into the open ocean will be greatly hampered.
4. The Kuril Islands have huge deposits of rare earth
elements - rhenium and others.
You, Ukrainians, don't care about this - that's why you reason like that.

[Vlad5307]

he declared his readiness "to go all the way in this matter."

Those. liquidate amerskih military bases and reduce their armed forces to the self-defense forces stipulated in the surrender pact ?! Something fantastic, but otherwise the owner will not allow them.

[Vadim_888]

Yes, the Japanese prime ministers have a tradition - you need a reason for resignation, you raise the issue of the northern territories

[fif21]

Who will simply give up the territory rich in biological resources? And the military-strategic position of the islands is remarkable. Therefore, the construction of fish factories, bases of the Navy, Aerospace Forces, Moscow Region is a very profitable and promising business. Also, not all islands and coastal areas have been investigated for gold and other valuables that the Japanese might have hidden before the occupation.

[Dimide]

Excuse me, and how much money is currently being poured from the budget (military, federal, local) for the development, construction and exploration of all of the above?
Isn't it easier to write down joint use and development as a separate paragraph? And finally, sign a peace treaty

[fif21]

Quote: Dimid

Isn't it easier to write down joint use and development as a separate paragraph? And finally, sign a peace treaty

Sharing. Well, the most important thing is that the Japanese do not recognize the jurisdiction of Russia over these islands, so sharing will not work. The signing of any agreement with the Russian Federation is recognition. Currently, the Ministry of Defense conducts a study of these territories, I think that not for the sake of idle curiosity. The hidden exit of submarines to the Pacific Ocean is also expensive, not to mention the bases for the Poseidons and the control of the US Armed Forces at bases in Japan. And does he need this peace treaty? How many times have they been violated and will be violated!

[Dimide]

"Explore these territories"
All clear

[Dzafdet]

Vova, as always, talks a lot and does nothing. It is enough to find documents from the times of Catherine and show them to the Japanese and close the question of the islands FOREVER. But we have effective "managers" everywhere ....

[Ural resident]

I do not see Russia's tough position on the Kuril Islands. On the contrary, there are always some kind of flirting, hints of promises, etc. After all, the question of the Kuriles was raised by the Russian leadership itself, represented by Lavrov. Apparently, some promises were made, even from the Russian side economic demands were put forward, but it was the greed of the Japanese side, which needed not 2 but 4 islands, that thwarted the negotiations. I am absolutely sure that our so-called elite, which sits on financial flows, if it only understands that it will be possible to receive financial rivers from Japan for the development of the economy, having the opportunity to distribute them, will do everything possible to make this deal take place. And this can be done unnoticed under the guise of another "geopolitical" success, as is usually done. That is why curtsies towards the Japanese partners do not stop, they wait for a convenient moment and the consent of the other side to financial injections. After all, it was already officially announced to them that the amendments to the Constitution do not apply in case of border demarcation.
For me, in general, relations with a neighbor should be of primary concern to the Japanese, and no tourist visits by former residents of the Kuriles before they sign a peace treaty without any preconditions.

[Alex Justice]

And let the bones be taken to Japan and honored there. There is nothing to arrange a cult from the remains on our land.

[Yves762]

"Final" solution to the question of the ownership of the Northern Territories ...

[BAI]

The issue of the northern territories should not be passed on to future generations; it must be finalized

For a long time already, the Russian government should announce that the islands are Russian and the topic is not being discussed. As with the Crimea. And then they left in the Constitution heaps of loopholes, so that you can give everything, with the appropriate interest. It's all about the price of the issue. And if the Japanese do not stand up for the price, then any options are possible.

[Normal]

So what's the problem? The point has already been set, and long ago. He wants to hear again who owns the islands?

[kursovik]

I feel sorry for the Japanese .. They already have some kind of sick fix idea! We would have driven the United States out of the country, then maybe we would have had a heart-to-heart talk .. And so it's all useless.

[APASUS]

“... For some reason, everyone forgot that Shinzo Abe swore at his father's grave to return the Kuriles. And if he doesn't, he'll do hara-kiri. The Japanese are a strange nation, of course. He set a deadline for himself - until November 2020. It was in 2008

[Maikcg]

Final solution to the Japanese question.

[antivirus]

after 125 com-tos I am writing - minus 55 put. freaks. I wrote about Carthage. The Russian Federation is in the position of the strong - Rome, and the Yapi are an attempt to revise the results of WWII.
.complexes of warriors are not survivable. VO site is clear. clamped, removal - only with moonshine.

[Metallurg_2]

So it seems like we have already put a final point - the Kuril Islands are ours.
What other japas want to put an end to?

[zwlad]

Have you decided to arrange a collective hara-kiri?

[Jaromir]

Japan announced its intention to finally resolve the issue of the ownership of the Northern Territories

They can claim a lot, but they will only get a cookie.

[Andobor]

Nothing depends on the Japanese, the Japanese have a slave nature at the genetic level,
- several generations grew up in the occupation, that the owners give orders, then they grunt.

[Ugochaves]

All these statements by the Japanese prime minister about the "northern territories" remind me of the village idiot from the movie "Zatoichi", who, with a stick in his hands and screaming, ran around the village posing as a samurai ... So they also "pretend" to be samurai

[certero]

The further the more I understand the validity of the approach of the Soviet Union, which generally believed that there were no territorial differences, there was nothing to discuss, period

[Boromir1941]

zadolbali already. restless. Why are they smeared with honey there ?! to teach them a lesson

[xomaNN]

According to the Japanese prime minister, he announced his readiness "to go all the way in this matter."

Until the end - is it to make yourself hara-kiri?

[nnz226]

Do seppuku

[nnz226]

How many times do not say: "Halva!" - it won't get sweeter in your mouth!

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

***
Salmon tail splashed on the wave

The islands disappeared in the fog

They will not return

Deal with Nihon ...

© V.V. Vorontsov Islands of the Rising Sun of Russia

***

[Alexander Skorik]

"go to the end in this matter." And in the end, the Hokkaidsky region may appear in the Sakhalin region.

[nov_tech.vrn]

Not a problem, the issue has already been resolved, it remains for the yapas to just wipe off

[In a d and m]

Apparently another “suggestion” came from the overseas owner. So they work off the enema.

[va3610]

...According to the Japanese Prime Minister, he declared his readiness to “go to the end in this matter”...
That is, if he screws up, he will commit seppuku for himself?

[220976]

Japan intends to finally resolve the issue of ownership of the southern Kuril Islands

How's that? Take away by force