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Ammunition for the price of a good car: It became known about the next versions of the Abrams tanks

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It became known about what next updates will receive versions of the American tank Abrams. We are talking about the M1A2C and M1A2 SEP v4 versions, the financing of the program for the creation of which is laid down in the incredible size of the US military budget for 2021. At the same time, the M1A2 SEP v4 Abrams variant is planned to be put into production in the mid-2020s.


The M1A2C Abrams version has several innovations. One of them is an auxiliary power unit in addition to the Honeywell AGT1500 M1 gas turbine engine with a capacity of about 1,5 thousand hp. As a result, the power density increased, which, allegedly, added opportunities for the "Abrams" to increase travel speed and maneuverability.

However, there is a problem: the upgrade of the power plants so far leads to the fact that the M1A2C Abrams shows unstable operation in operating conditions in mountainous areas. At the same time, the engine, as before, is multi-fuel. It can apply gasoline, diesel fuel, marine diesel fuel, aviation fuel.

The M1A2C Abrams version is equipped with new communication tools, updated highly sensitive infrared sensors FLIR, which detect the target and allow the aiming system to track it in various weather conditions and when setting, for example, aerosol masking.

On new versions of the tank, including the M1A2 SEP v4, an updated electronic warfare system will be implemented, designated as the CREW Duke V3-4. It is capable of countering the use of remotely controlled explosive devices that can be deployed along the roadside.

For the M1A2 SEP v4 version, APM v4 120 mm ammunition is being created. It should combine several ammunition at once, including the M908 Obstacle Reduction and MPAT. However, the price of the updated ammunition will be incredibly high. At first, an option was reported for over $ 55. Shells for the price of a good car are an option that does not seem to be of particular concern to the Pentagon at their level of military budget.
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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 18 January 2021 08: 33
    +9
    Ammunition for the price of a good car: It became known about the next versions of the Abrams tanks

    So the rule that "a miser pays twice" has not been canceled !!!
    But, not everyone can afford it!
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 18 January 2021 08: 40
      +3
      It is rather wasteful. Or just another lobbying of some manufacturers. Let's say that warehouses are supposed to have a stock of shells for two months of intense hostilities. At this price, this stock will cost so much ... for more than 2 thousand cars ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 18 January 2021 08: 44
        +5
        Counting other people's BABOSIKI is an empty matter ...
        The ammunition "working", effective, will be made ... such are their conditions, opportunities.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 18 January 2021 08: 56
          +2
          War has always been and will be a huge waste. We need a balance. But since their military-industrial complex has finally decided to milk the budget and will definitely not stop, this is their business.) Let them have fun.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 18 January 2021 09: 11
            0
            It all depends on ... yes, on many reasons, but first of all, on the mood of the top, leading ones.
    2. Cowbra
      Cowbra 18 January 2021 09: 29
      0
      Quote: rocket757
      But, not everyone can afford it!

      ... or you can recall the fact that the Americans at every corner prove that the Germans in WWII were defeated by their own "long conveyor". Tiger-2 supposedly, the best tank of that period, but while the Germans were making 1 Tiger, the enemy managed to rivet 10 34-ok ... winked
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 18 January 2021 09: 41
        -1
        Quote: Cowbra
        while the Germans were making 1 Tiger, the enemy had time to rivet 10 34-ok ...

        There is also such an opinion ... well, people are different, they think / remember differently.
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 18 January 2021 09: 53
          +1
          This is a wrong opinion.
          The correct one sounds like this: While the Germans riveted one Tiger, the enemy managed to cook 10 34-ok ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 18 January 2021 10: 01
            -1
            Any tank is a complex, technological product .... if someone thinks that he was able to downgrade the value of the VICTORY TANK, the "workhorse" of that war, calling it whatever you like, even riveted ... for a native speaker of Russian, this means that he is ALIEN for us, who are RUSSIAN IN SPIRIT! He has a language, but he does not have a country, and that's it.
          2. Cowbra
            Cowbra 18 January 2021 10: 18
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            Oh, what's the difference ?! That is the meaning, the Tiger is supposedly a limousine, and the T-34 is a bus. Well, of course, the quality will be different, but the point is that the limousine - nafig did not fall for intercity transportation. And that he is riveted, and not sharpened with a file, does not matter - he is in his place, and the limousine is that. Lost.
            Why am I, the exceptional ones have the same cant. Well, you stuffed the troops with strangers. Now oops!

            "Signature" of the American battalion and its transport convoy deployed during the exercise, obtained from the American electronic reconnaissance satellite. N-nu and? wink
    3. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 18 January 2021 10: 07
      -1
      Now, if resources were spent on him as a good car, it would be a disaster for amers. And resources expressed in a piece of paper are nothing
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 18 January 2021 10: 10
        -1
        Quote: Vol4ara
        And resources expressed in a piece of paper are nothing

        The printing press will endure everything .... however, there are different opinions on this matter !!! Only time will tell who was the seer and who was the talker.
  2. APASUS
    APASUS 18 January 2021 08: 36
    +1
    A country that prints dollars can afford shells for tanks, at any price. What they saw there I do not understand?
    1. Cananecat
      Cananecat 18 January 2021 09: 47
      -1
      The country that prints dollars ...

      The country can afford it ... only for these shells, African Americans with higher education will need to be charged. ))
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 18 January 2021 10: 08
        +1
        Quote: Canecat
        The country can afford it ... only for these shells, African Americans with higher education will need to be charged. ))

        I don’t see any problems at all.
  3. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 18 January 2021 08: 36
    +3
    Under Soviet rule, the ATGM cost as much as 2109 .... so there is nothing surprising. And ATGM has become more complex and more expensive and inflation. That dollar is not a modern dollar.
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 18 January 2021 08: 53
      0
      ... That dollar is not a modern dollar ....... in general, the production of a product is measured in man-hours, that is. how much energy will be required in a certain time to get the final product ... let me remind you that the outgoing parameters are 780 watts and 1 hour (60 minutes, 3600 seconds) ... and how this value is paid ... everyone has a different way, even in dollars. even in tugriks. even in parrots ... the main thing is energy costs
      1. Hwostatij
        Hwostatij 18 January 2021 10: 28
        +1
        Well, if we are talking about digging holes, then yes, it can be done in man-hours. And when the final product is a little more technological - the computer is there, the car - everything becomes a little more complicated here (by several orders of magnitude)
        1. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 18 January 2021 16: 59
          -1
          And when the final product is a little more technological - the computer is there, the car - everything becomes a little more complicated here (orders of magnitude) ....... you are not attentive. man-hours is an indicator. it does not matter who exactly is engaged in the production of the product, an automaton or a person ... the parameter is energy consumption ... and the price of energy in different countries in different ways ...
          well, holes are dug even for free and often for themselves
          1. Hwostatij
            Hwostatij 18 January 2021 17: 38
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            man-hours is an indicator. it does not matter who exactly is engaged in the production of the product, an automaton or a person ... the parameter is energy consumption ... and the price of energy in different countries in different ways ...
            well, holes are dug even for free and often for themselves

            Do I understand correctly that with this methodology, the work of a black man picking bananas should be worth more than, say, the work of a programmer writing a program?
            1. Crimean partisan 1974
              Crimean partisan 1974 18 January 2021 17: 48
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              the work of the programmer writing the program? ........ the methodology is such that the activity of the brain at its apogee exceeds these 789 watts, nevertheless, for the work (task) performed by the programmer in production it is regulated by the man-hours indicator. ..the only thing that does not lend itself to this calculation is parliamentary payments
              1. Hwostatij
                Hwostatij 18 January 2021 19: 16
                +1
                the only thing that does not lend itself to this calculation is parliamentary payments

                I hope that with such a peculiar understanding of the economy, you are still working in some other area. hi
                1. Crimean partisan 1974
                  Crimean partisan 1974 18 January 2021 20: 09
                  -1
                  You still work in some other area ... yeah, I correctly noted ... a pensioner ... in principle, it is no different from what you did before ... namely, the strict regulation of payments, or rather, allowances. the only exception. lower payments and no bonuses .... epaulettes do not have man-hours. we have human life
        2. Usher
          Usher 18 January 2021 22: 44
          +1
          Quote: Hwostatij
          Well, if we are talking about digging holes, then yes, it can be done in man-hours. And when the final product is a little more technological - the computer is there, the car - everything becomes a little more complicated here (by several orders of magnitude)

          manufacturability is simplicity, not complexity. The computer is not very technological.
          1. Hwostatij
            Hwostatij 18 January 2021 23: 41
            0
            manufacturability is simplicity, not complexity. The computer is not very technological.
            Well, this is actually not entirely true, but essentially I agree. I meant high-tech.
    2. Quadro
      Quadro 18 January 2021 10: 03
      -3
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Under Soviet rule, the ATGM cost as much as 2109 .... so there is nothing surprising. And ATGM has become more complex and more expensive and inflation. That dollar is not a modern dollar.

      What does the ATGM and the blank have to do with it? And then ATGM was the most modern and the most advanced. And a disc for 55 thousand should punch to the earth's crust and also with homing.
      1. English tarantas
        English tarantas 18 January 2021 10: 19
        0
        The article indicates which shells will be replaced by a new one, even if they google it. It's not a blank at all. But to scream "uryayaya" is always welcome ...
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 18 January 2021 10: 32
        +1
        Quote: Quadro
        And a disc for 55 thousand

        Who told you that this is a simple blank?
      3. Simargl
        Simargl 18 January 2021 10: 36
        0
        Quote: Quadro
        a disc for 55 thousand should punch to the earth's crust
        Any projectile can reach the earth's crust, i.e. fall on the planet.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 January 2021 08: 39
    +4
    at a price of more than 55 thousand dollars.
    Walk, walk like that. The rich have their own quirks, and if you count it well, then most likely the manufacturer has overestimated the price by at least twice. If the military budget increases, then the price of ammunition will jump.
  5. Semenov
    Semenov 18 January 2021 08: 44
    +14
    Equipment upgrades in the United States are mainly conceived for the defense industry.
  6. Guru
    Guru 18 January 2021 09: 00
    0
    However, the price of the updated ammunition will be incredibly high. At first, an option was reported for over $ 55.
    And if you count without cutting, the price will decrease by 60%. laughing
  7. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 18 January 2021 09: 09
    +2
    If an ammunition costing a car with a high probability destroys a target many times higher than the cost of the ammunition, then the price is justified. And if you add the possible damage from its actions to the cost of the goal, then the price is justified many times over.
    1. Quadro
      Quadro 18 January 2021 10: 05
      -2
      Well, yes, in the same place there is a core with particles of democracy, of course, 55 thousand he will put the division in batches. And there can be no corruption and cutting there, we have only bast shoes.
  8. Antidote
    Antidote 18 January 2021 09: 14
    -1
    The hamsters again began to count other people's money.
  9. RUSLAN
    RUSLAN 18 January 2021 09: 36
    +1
    More expensive and different shells for Abrasha !!! Not bad, shell for the price of 1kg of gold
  10. slowpokemonkey
    slowpokemonkey 18 January 2021 10: 30
    0
    please tell me comrades how multi-fuel is implemented on agt-1500 and what about multi-fuel in our gas turbines (1000-1250) ???
    1. KCA
      KCA 18 January 2021 11: 14
      -1
      Since the 70s, gas turbine engines have always been multi-fuel - diesel fuel, gasoline, kerosene and any mixtures of them, I think, it will also work for alcohol, but someone will fill it with such a consumption :-)
  11. Bad_gr
    Bad_gr 18 January 2021 11: 02
    +4
    auxiliary power unit in addition to the Honeywell AGT1500 M1 gas turbine engine with a capacity of about 1,5 thousand hp As a result, the power density increased, which, allegedly, added opportunities for the "Abrams" to increase travel speed and maneuverability.
    Unclear. An auxiliary power plant (APU) is used to save the resource of the main power plant and fuel. When the tank is in position, instead of the main engine, it starts the APU and it supplies the tank with power with its generator, allowing all the equipment of the tank to work.
    What does the power density, travel speed and maneuverability have to do with it?
  12. Maks1995
    Maks1995 18 January 2021 14: 01
    0
    The argument is about nothing.
    It has been repeatedly reported here that any expensive ammunition is produced in a limited batch and is in warehouses, what if?
    It seems that we have the same ...
  13. yaglon
    yaglon 18 January 2021 19: 42
    +1
    A very curious projectile M908 High Explosive Obstacle Reduction Tracer (HE-OR-T). I understand that this is an upgrade of the HEAT-fragmentation M830A1 with an increased amount of explosives, which makes it something like an armor-piercing high-explosive fragmentation projectile. I wonder if this ammunition has any analogue in the range of shells of the Russian army or the armies of other countries?
  14. Papa u
    Papa u 19 January 2021 23: 00
    0
    Impressed by the list of fuel it can run on. This, as I understand it, is the universal dream of a motorist - lei what you want?