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Czech historian spoke about the great work of Czech gunsmiths for Nazi Germany

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It is not often mentioned what role the Czech Republic played in the successes of Hitler's Germany in the first stage of the Second World War. This is especially true for Czech industrial enterprises.


Czech historian Jaroslav Strait decided to fill this gap in an interview with the Halo noviny newspaper.

It all started with the Munich agreement of the Western powers, which allowed Hitler in March 1939 to occupy Czechoslovakia with impunity, in the place of which a separate state of Slovakia and the protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia were created. Long before that, Czech weapons factories were considered among the best in Europe. Having seized this country, Hitler got his hands on a large number of excellent weapons and military equipment that entered service with the German army and were actively used during the Second World War both against the USSR and against the Western allies.

But this was only a small part of the weapons that had been created by the enterprises of this country during the occupation, when the war was already in full swing. The Czech historian spoke about the “invaluable” contribution of the Czech gunsmiths to the military might of Nazi Germany, their great work for the Third Reich ... It is not customary to remember this in today's Czech Republic. But the historian decided to remind.

At first, they produced weapons of time-tested domestic brands. From this country, the Wehrmacht received light machine guns, ammunition, tractors and much more. Soon, Czech factories mastered the production of weapons of German brands.

In 1941, Joseph Goebbels made an entry in his diary, where he praised the contribution of Czech enterprises to strengthening the military might of the Hitlerite army.

The Fuhrer is pleased with the achievements of the Czechs in military production. Not a single case of sabotage. Czech products are distinguished by their quality, usable, reliable and durable. They have shown themselves to be responsible and diligent workers.

- wrote the Nazi propagandist.

Of course, not all Czechs collaborated with the Nazis and helped them "forge victory." Do not forget about the thousands of Czechs who fought against the Nazis in the army of Ludwig Svoboda, in the British Air Force, on the Western Front, and in the ranks of the partisans. You should also remember about the participants in the Resistance and the Prague Uprising in May 1945.

But we must also not forget that the weapons that killed our grandfathers and great-grandfathers during the Great Patriotic War were created, among other things, by the hands of Czech workers, who did not particularly care about whose hands these weapons fell into.
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  1. bar
    bar 17 January 2021 19: 02
    +32
    The famous Skoda factories made a significant contribution to the power of the Wehrmacht. And the Czech tanks Pz.Kpfw. 38 the Germans shielded better than their own. So the demolition of the monument to Konev is quite natural.
    1. svp67
      svp67 17 January 2021 19: 07
      +20
      Quote: bar
      And the Czech tanks Pz.Kpfw. 38 the Germans shielded better than their own.

      The same is true for cannons, especially of high power, and there is no need to talk about small arms. Anyone who says that the USSR made the greatest contribution to the development of the power of Nazi Germany, it would not be superfluous to get acquainted with how much its power grew after this "annexation"
      Do not forget about the thousands of Czechs who fought against the Nazis in the army of Ludwig Svoboda, in the British Air Force, on the Western Front, and in the ranks of the partisans. You should also remember about the participants in the Resistance and the Prague Uprising in May 1945.
      But is it worth forgetting about the millions of Czechs working and serving, including with weapons in their hands on the side of Germany?
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 17 January 2021 23: 13
        +10
        You can't make quality products out of hand.
        Quantity - yes, you can make you do a lot. But not of high quality.
        Reich's Czech products were famous for their quality. Made with soul.
        1. Alex Justice
          Alex Justice 18 January 2021 18: 17
          0
          Reich's Czech products were famous for their quality. Made with soul.

          As well as French. The submarines were produced by the French as pies.
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 18 January 2021 23: 29
            +3
            Quote: Alex Justice
            The submarines were produced by the French as pies

            In fact, England wanted to rank France among Hitler's allies.
            And get reparations off her.
            Stalin did not. I don't know why. And France (officially) became an ally - a victim of fascism.
            It is interesting to read about the French resistance. There were many anti-fascists there - German, Spanish, Russian (both white emigrants and Red Army soldiers who escaped from captivity), Jews, Armenians ... Agents of the USA and England can also be counted in hundreds. Where are the French? Oops ... Jacqueline Nearne, a Frenchwoman who fled from the Germans to England and returned as an agent of the British.
            But the French volunteers in Hitler's army were counted in hundreds of thousands.
    2. Magog_
      Magog_ 17 January 2021 19: 40
      +6
      O. Karius, who fought in the Pz.Kpfw.38 (t), wrote in his memoirs: “We cursed the fragile and non-viscous Czech steel, which did not become an obstacle for the Russian 45-mm anti-tank gun. The fragments of our own armor plates and fastening bolts caused more damage than the shrapnel and the projectile itself. ”“ The Czech 38 (t) tank was roughly the same as the T-III. But besides the fact that the Czech tank had inferior quality steel, it also lost in the fact that its crew consisted of only four people. The tank commander had to simultaneously observe, direct the gun and shoot himself. "
      1. bar
        bar 17 January 2021 20: 11
        +6
        Quote: Magog_
        The tank commander had to simultaneously observe, aim the gun and shoot himself

        I wonder what the rest were doing? Well, the mechanic is understandable. I admit that another one is a loader so that the commander can shoot. And the fourth at this time commanded the tank while the commander was busy? recourse
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 17 January 2021 20: 29
          +7
          Quote: bar
          Quote: Magog_
          The tank commander had to simultaneously observe, aim the gun and shoot himself

          I wonder what the rest were doing? Well, the mechanic is understandable. I admit that another one is a loader so that the commander can shoot. And the fourth at this time commanded the tank while the commander was busy? recourse
          The fourth twisted the tail of the radio and fired from a course machine gun, the same as in the T-34-76. There was only enough room in the tower for the commander, who is also the gunner, and the loader.
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 17 January 2021 23: 17
            +3
            Quote: Magog_
            We cursed the brittle and delicate Czech steel

            So they did what they could.
            More precisely, the best steel they could make.
            Alloying additives were then selected by poking. And the Czechs did not have ores like those that are mined in Spitsbergen, where the ore already has an addition of nickel.
      2. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 17 January 2021 23: 17
        +5
        The swift-footed Gaines (Guderian) was also not happy with the Czechs.
    3. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 17 January 2021 21: 25
      +14
      It is not often mentioned what role the Czech Republic played in the successes of Hitler's Germany in the first stage of the Second World War.
      Author! This is mentioned all the time! Anyone, in the slightest degree, associated with the history of military affairs, including from the late 80s of the last century! So what's new, you, sorry, did not report anything! This is not news from the word ALL. If you want, the article can and should be expanded: indicate the types and quantity of the item!
      1. djqnbdjqnb
        djqnbdjqnb 18 January 2021 01: 36
        +13
        It is important here that now the Czechs themselves have begun to write about this.
    4. mister-red
      mister-red 17 January 2021 21: 33
      +10
      The famous Skoda factories made a significant contribution to the power of the Wehrmacht.

      And today Skoda announced that it would not sponsor the World Ice Hockey Championship if it was held in Belarus. Looks like for them Hitler was better than Old Man.
      1. halpat
        halpat 18 January 2021 00: 24
        +4
        Quote: mister-red
        The famous Skoda factories made a significant contribution to the power of the Wehrmacht.

        And today Skoda announced that it would not sponsor the World Ice Hockey Championship if it was held in Belarus. Looks like for them Hitler was better than Old Man.

        Skoda has long been owned by the Germans. Volkswagen.
  2. BAI
    BAI 17 January 2021 19: 03
    +10
    Yes, the Czechs even proactively developed equipment for the Wehrmacht. For example a half-track conveyor. And they offered to the Wehrmacht - what can we do, just order. Nobody else did that. Even Austria.
    1. Machito
      Machito 17 January 2021 21: 02
      +7
      Czechs are fascists. Pereobulis on the go. Why did they partisan there? Yeast thrown into the German toilet?
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 18 January 2021 19: 41
        +1
        Quote: Bearded
        Czechs are fascists. Pereobulis on the go. Why did they partisan there? Yeast thrown into the German toilet?

        Well, of course - the Czech firefighters heroically flooded the basement of the church, in which the British saboteurs of Czech and Slovak origin who had sacrificed Heydrich were hiding. Shoulder to shoulder with true Aryansso to speak ...
        And then the inhabitants of Prague organized an organized rally in memory of the Reich Protector.
      2. mmaxx
        mmaxx 19 January 2021 14: 33
        0
        The Czech partisans heroically stripped and took off their shoes on the German civilians who were trying to escape. They even killed sometimes. Also heroic. They sacrificed themselves directly.
        Heroically robbed and killed captured by our Germans. When our convoy was distracted. Well, and other real heroism.
        And so, a strange article. This resource has a strange love for Czechs. Sharp and reflective comments are erased.
        Therefore, I will limit myself to emphasizing their struggle.
        Then it will become clear that the demolition of the monument to Konev is normal. No illusions.
    2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 17 January 2021 23: 32
      +4
      ... For example a half-track transporter

      What kind of half-gusli did the Czechs develop for the Germans?
      ... Nobody else did that. Even Austria

      Don't write nonsense. Steyr built his armored car, developed before the Anschluss, later for the SS by order of Himmler. In general, Steyr worked for the Reich with enthusiasm. And their commanding four-wheel drive beauties?
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 18 January 2021 19: 43
        0
        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        What kind of half-gusli did the Czechs develop for the Germans?

        Seems to me what was meant wheeled Skoda RSO.
    3. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 18 January 2021 08: 42
      +2
      Austria as a state did not exist after the Anschluss. "It was one of the inner German territories. Bohemia was a German protectorate called Bohemia and Moravia.
  3. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 17 January 2021 19: 03
    +7
    The "soul of the poet" Yaroslav Shtrait could not stand it - I wanted to remind the OWNERS about the "faithful servants" so that they would not forget ... they gave some medal or a grant. On conscience, REPARATIONS and from Bohemia had to be taken ...
    1. Cowbra
      Cowbra 17 January 2021 19: 22
      +7
      Exactly. And then even we have forgotten how the proverb sounds completely ... "Whoever remembers the old - the eye is out. But WHO FORGETS - BOTH!"
      After Konev, it is about reparations that the question must be raised - and let them spin
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        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 17 January 2021 21: 29
          -1
          Loudly said. Should the same Serbs be included there too? And many more European peoples who proved themselves in the war as real fighters against fascism!
          1. Machito
            Machito 17 January 2021 21: 33
            0
            And who fought the fascists? Serbs, Greeks. And ..... everything. The rest kissed them on the gums.
            1. The leader of the Redskins
              The leader of the Redskins 17 January 2021 21: 35
              -3
              Poles, Norwegians.
              Even those listed by YOU no longer give the rights of one size fits all.
              1. Flooding
                Flooding 17 January 2021 21: 45
                0
                Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                Norse

                https://topwar.ru/11239-uchastie-norvegii-v-voyne-s-sssr-mif-o-sovmestnoy-borbe.html
                1. The leader of the Redskins
                  The leader of the Redskins 17 January 2021 22: 53
                  -3
                  But the same Wikipedia indicates something else. Google "Norwegian Resistance". There is a blown up ship, and the detonation of the main railway at the same time in 1000 places, and assistance to Soviet prisoners of war.
                  1. Flooding
                    Flooding 17 January 2021 23: 45
                    -2
                    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                    undermining the main railway simultaneously in 1000 places

                    On March 15, 1945, the only railway line connecting the southern part of Norway with the northern part was blown up in more than 1000 places.
                    Not suggestive? But in vain.
                    15 March 1945 year
                    The railway, so tightly guarded by the Fritzes, that it was simultaneously blown up in more than 1000 (!!!) places.
                    And yes, of course, I will not argue how important it was at that period.
                    They blew up a little, it was necessary in 10000 places.
                    To make this more strategic.
                  2. Flooding
                    Flooding 18 January 2021 08: 18
                    -2
                    So you have no objections?
                    If there is nothing to write.
                    And the cons, then, from lack of strength.
              2. Machito
                Machito 18 January 2021 00: 10
                +5
                Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                Poles, Norwegians.
                Even those listed by YOU no longer give the rights of one size fits all.

                The Poles surrendered all their Jews to concentration camps. Norwegian volunteers fought in SS units against the USSR, and there were more of them than partisans in Norway.
            2. VLR
              VLR 17 January 2021 22: 27
              +1
              And the Albanians are the only European people (except for the Russians) who liberated their territory from the Germans during World War II on their own, without outside help. And the Turks in the war against them suffered the greatest losses (the Albanians sold their lives more dearly). True, then the Albanians faithfully served the sultans until the beginning of the XNUMXth century.
              1. Flooding
                Flooding 18 January 2021 08: 25
                +3
                Quote: VlR
                And the Albanians are the only European people

                You are right in many ways.
                We must pay tribute, the liberation movement in Albania was a massive phenomenon.
                But we must understand that this is the merit of the Greeks, and Serbs, and other Yugoslavs.
                And they managed to liberate the territories after the massive retreat of the Nazi troops, starting with Greece. And they retreated, as I understood, not fleeing the partisan movement, but for strategic reasons, proceeding from the situation on the fronts.
  4. Dimide
    Dimide 17 January 2021 19: 07
    0
    And now the Czech CZ is going to buy Colt
  5. Bolo
    Bolo 17 January 2021 19: 43
    +10
    Well then, let's remember the "invaluable" contribution of the Czechoslovakians to the destruction of Russians during the civil war! These "brothers-Slavs", on a par with the Poles for us, are perhaps the most disgusting opponents throughout history! Maybe it's better with the Germans, Anglo-Saxons face to face than with such non-brothers Slavs behind your back! And in general, after such a relationship, the idea of ​​Pan-Slavism degenerated in the bud ...
    1. Machito
      Machito 17 January 2021 21: 05
      -3
      Vladimir Monomakh cut well Chekhov, from the heart.
  6. Petro_tut
    Petro_tut 17 January 2021 19: 47
    +7
    Strange author, forgot to subscribe laughing
  7. ssergey1978
    ssergey1978 17 January 2021 19: 49
    +7
    And what did the author want to say? The article is kind of scanty, one must understand that the highlight of this article before the article is Goebbels' phrase. One could call the author provocateurs, but he is not even worthy of such a definition. So put some poop on the propeller.
    1. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 17 January 2021 22: 35
      +3
      Quote: ssergey1978
      And what did the author want to say? The article is kind of scanty, one must understand that the highlight of this article before the article is Goebbels' phrase. One could call the author provocateurs, but he is not even worthy of such a definition. So put some poop on the propeller.


      I did not give a visa to Prague, so the author was offended !!!
  8. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 17 January 2021 19: 51
    +19
    The Czechs riveted weapons for the Nazis until May 45th. They stopped only when they realized they would not be paid.
    1. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
      Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 17 January 2021 20: 55
      +3
      I think some diligent workers even flooded to work on May 8 in the morning, but when they saw that there was an active change of owners and salaries were not to be seen during these days, common sense prevailed!
    2. Machito
      Machito 17 January 2021 21: 07
      0
      The uprising in Prague in May 1945 was due to Hitler's failure to pay salaries for weapons produced to kill the Russians.
  9. Whatislove
    Whatislove 17 January 2021 20: 03
    -10%
    Well, they did and did. It was 705 years ago. Do you propose to ignore all the countries with which we once fought or they helped those who fought with us?
    1. Whatislove
      Whatislove 17 January 2021 20: 04
      +4
      75 years ago *
      1. Machito
        Machito 17 January 2021 21: 09
        +4
        Chekhov should not be ignored. We need to tell them in their eyes that they are fascists and murderers.
    2. 7,62h54
      7,62h54 17 January 2021 21: 37
      0
      Read Starikov https://nstarikov.ru/kak-chehi-vredili-rossii-za-poslednie-100-let-115649
      It is very accessible for you.
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 17 January 2021 20: 06
    +4
    But we must also not forget that the weapons that killed our grandfathers and great-grandfathers during the Great Patriotic War were created, among other things, by the hands of Czech workers, who did not particularly care about whose hands these weapons fell into.

    You cannot erase words from the song ... it was, the united Reich of Geyrop !!!
    And now what?
    That page of history, full of mistakes, crimes, stupidity, will have to be turned over and new pages have to be written ... try to make fewer mistakes, stupidities and ... traitors, this is a separate topic, they NEVER forgive!
    1. Machito
      Machito 17 January 2021 21: 11
      0
      Don't turn anything over. Fascist Czechs today sharpen knives to kill Russians.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 January 2021 23: 13
        +1
        There are headaches EVERYWHERE!
        We have "ours", they have their own ... life does not end there, for us, at least.
  11. Coconut
    Coconut 17 January 2021 20: 10
    -2
    well, when they put the barrel to the head, you will do what they say ... or you will die
    1. apro
      apro 17 January 2021 20: 18
      +1
      Quote: Coco
      well, when they put the barrel to the head, you will do what they say ... or you will die

      And nothing. That the army of the Czech Republic was equal to the Wehrmacht? To defend the homeland is not a Czech business?
      1. Avior
        Avior 17 January 2021 20: 29
        -4
        The Czechs did not have an army, it fell apart. Slovaks refused to fight together with the Czechs, and there were many of them in the army. The maximum would have been enough for symbolic resistance to the Germans, so the Czechs did not even try so as not to lay down their own.
        1. Xenofont
          Xenofont 17 January 2021 21: 06
          +5
          You are clearly not saying something! But the Slovaks sent several full-blooded divisions to the Eastern Front that reached Rostov-on-Don. Then the south of Ukraine, then counter-partisan operations in Belarus. Wow, we walked around the Union!
          1. Avior
            Avior 17 January 2021 22: 49
            +4
            something you badly read my post.
            it says that the Slovaks refused to fight the Germans, which is why the Czech army collapsed
            1. Xenofont
              Xenofont 18 January 2021 09: 26
              0
              How could an army fall apart if it was a single state? And how could Sloboda, a Czech, end up in the active army in Russia?
              1. Avior
                Avior 18 January 2021 09: 32
                +1
                Symbolically united. The Slovaks categorically did not want to live with the Czechs in the same state, especially the Germans, Poles and Hungarians, and there were many of them. And fight for them, essno
        2. Revolver
          Revolver 17 January 2021 21: 19
          +6
          Quote: Avior
          The maximum would be enough for symbolic resistance to the Germans
          The Czechs only had to defend the line of fortifications along the slopes of the Sudeten Mountains. Blitzkrieg uphill is not like the plains of Poland. But the Entente turned away from them, the Poles refused to let the Red Army through their territory, and in general they considered it easier to give up the Sudetenland inhabited by the Germans than to fight. But together with the Sudetenland they gave up a natural defensive line, so when Hitler after a short time decided to seize the remnants of Bohemia and Moravia, there was no point in resisting. And the Czechs got used to being under the Germans for many centuries, whether Austrian or German - what's the difference?
          1. Avior
            Avior 17 January 2021 23: 00
            +1
            The Czech Republic would have simply collapsed earlier.
            Neither Slovaks nor student Germans felt the desire to fight for the Czechs.
            And they would not have fought. Rather the opposite.
        3. apro
          apro 17 January 2021 21: 29
          0
          Quote: Avior
          The Czechs did not have an army

          1938?
          1. Avior
            Avior 17 January 2021 22: 58
            -2
            1938?

            no, in 1939
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 17 January 2021 20: 39
      +5
      Quote: Coco
      well, when they put the barrel to the head, you will do what they say ... or you will die

      Even the paddling pools, for which they disgraced themselves in that war, and then engaged in sabotage on trifles. In particular, they lengthened the oil dipstick in the engines of trucks that were massively supplied to the Wehrmacht. The carriers checked the oil level accurately, as it should be for the Germans. Explain what happened to engines in which the oil level was several centimeters below the calculated one? And the Czechs did not do this either, they worked conscientiously.
      1. mr.ZinGer
        mr.ZinGer 17 January 2021 21: 07
        +7
        No need to generalize, sabotage in France is the lot of individuals.
        France during the occupation is a separate issue.
        The Europeans didn't care about this war, if only they were not touched.
        Czechs are no worse or better than everyone else.
    3. 7,62h54
      7,62h54 17 January 2021 21: 40
      +3

      The Czechs greeted the fascists with a zigue, saw them off with tears, or skied together. For 6 years of occupation, there was not a single fact of sabotage, they worked conscientiously.
      1. Avior
        Avior 17 January 2021 23: 03
        +4
        anything happened
        On October 28, 1939, on the anniversary of the declaration of independence of Czechoslovakia, the Czechs opposed the occupation. The funeral on November 15, 1939, of medical student Jan Opletal, wounded in October, sparked student demonstrations, followed by a Reich reaction. Mass arrests of politicians began, and 1800 students and teachers were also arrested. On November 17, all universities and colleges in the protectorate were closed, nine student leaders were executed, and hundreds of people were sent to concentration camps.

        In the fall of 1941, Germany took a series of radical steps in the protectorate. Reinhard Heydrich, head of the General Directorate of Imperial Security, was appointed Deputy Reich Protector of Bohemia and Moravia. Prime Minister Alois Eliash was arrested and then shot, the Czech government was reorganized, all Czech cultural institutions were closed. The Gestapo began arrests and executions. The expulsion of Jews to concentration camps was organized, and a ghetto was organized in the town of Terezin. On June 4, 1942, Heydrich died after being wounded during Operation Anthropoid. His successor, Colonel-General Kurt Dahluge, began mass arrests and executions. The villages of Lidice and Ležáky were destroyed. In 1943, about 350000 Czech workers were deported to Germany. All non-military industry was banned within the protectorate.
        1. Old electrician
          Old electrician 18 January 2021 05: 40
          +1
          Russian White emigrant B. Tikhonovich recalled:
          “The Czechs became incredibly rich on the Jews in 1939-1945. They took Jewish jewelry, paintings, property "for safekeeping," and then wrote denunciations against former friends. There was a saying: "They (that is, the Jews) will never return from there anyway."

          Madeleine Albright, US Secretary of State under Bill Clinton, a Bohemian Jewess born in Prague in 1937, still has not returned paintings that belonged to her family and were stolen by two Czech sisters from Prague.
          1. Avior
            Avior 18 January 2021 08: 24
            0
            I wonder where the paintings are and why were they not returned?
            The Albright family was not in the Czech Republic during the war.
            1. Old electrician
              Old electrician 18 January 2021 10: 57
              0
              Are you saying that at the time of the occupation of Czechoslovakia, the Albright family did not have any property on its territory? Or do you want to say that my daddy Joseph turned out to be so wise that he took out all the most valuable things in advance and sold the rest? Isn't it easier to assume that he turned to kind Czech neighbors - sisters with a request to look after his property during his forced absence? This could easily have been done by telephone from Belgrade, where he worked as a press attaché at the Czechoslovakian embassy. So they looked after. Where these paintings are today is not my problem, but they are clearly not Madeleine's.
              1. Avior
                Avior 18 January 2021 11: 07
                +1
                I just want to see the source of information, if any.
                and especially, the reason why the paintings have not yet been returned, if everything was so
                This quote, which is in your post, and one and the second about Albright, has been wandering around the Runet for ten years, and where it came from is unknown.
                1. Old electrician
                  Old electrician 18 January 2021 16: 00
                  +1
                  I agree with you. Madeleine Albright is a big name, so the quote about stealing paintings from her is extremely common on the Internet and is repeated word for word. Earlier, I did not think about its source, and this source is really unknown to me. Now I fully admit that this is a fake. Nevertheless, her biography states that "the grandparents stayed at home and died in the Holocaust." So maybe there is some grain in the theft of paintings.
    4. Old electrician
      Old electrician 18 January 2021 05: 34
      +2
      Barrel to head is cool! On July 3, 1942, a XNUMX rally of Czechs took place on Wenceslas Square in Prague. At this meeting, the inhabitants of the Protectorate ardently expressed their loyalty and support to the Third Reich. For the curious, there is a photo on the Internet. This rally is one of the largest gatherings in the history of Wenceslas Square. According to the unrealized plans of the German fascists, the Czechs were ideally suited for the composition of the future occupation and punitive forces in defeated Russia. They already had invaluable experience, they didn’t take in meanness, but it didn’t grow together.
  12. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 17 January 2021 20: 26
    +2
    Czech historian spoke about the great work of Czech gunsmiths for Nazi Germany


    Well, it's not a secret, of course. As well as the fact that ALL of Europe fought against the Soviet Union, and not just Hitler's Germany.
  13. Senior seaman
    Senior seaman 17 January 2021 20: 27
    +3
    It is rarely mentioned what role the Czech Republic played in the successes of Hitler's Germany in the first stage of the Second World War.

    Is it? And in my opinion, that's the only thing they talk about.
  14. maiman61
    maiman61 17 January 2021 20: 27
    +2
    Come on! MINIMUM number of Czechs fought with Germany! You don't even need to count it!
    1. Machito
      Machito 17 January 2021 21: 14
      0
      Quote: maiman61
      Come on! MINIMUM number of Czechs fought with Germany! You don't even need to count it!

      There is no one to remember except Julius Fucek.
      The rest of the Czechs were loyal to the Nazis.
      1. maiman61
        maiman61 18 January 2021 09: 42
        0
        They stayed that way! And yet, Poles, Balts, Hungarians, Romanians, Bulgarians, etc. Why do they hate us so much? We defeated Fascist united Europe under the leadership of Hitler! They still cannot forgive us for this!
  15. iouris
    iouris 17 January 2021 21: 16
    -1
    Quote: "Do not forget about the thousands of Czechs who fought against the Nazis in the army of Ludwig Svoboda, in the British Air Force, on the Western Front, in the ranks of the partisans." End of quote.
    These Czechs (and Slovaks) are just remembered. But “nobody (except me) reminded of the great work of Czech (and Slovak) gunsmiths before. Russians should know (did not know, and even forgot) that both in the First World War and in the Second, their ancestors fought against the Czechoslovak weapons. - factories "Skoda" (although not only).
    Czechoslovakia was surrendered to Hitler (and she surrendered herself) in order to equip the Wehrmacht with modern weapons.
  16. for
    for 18 January 2021 01: 17
    +1
    Of course, not all Czechs collaborated with the Nazis and helped them "forge victory." Do not forget about the thousands of Czechs who fought against the Nazis in the army of Ludwig Svoboda, in the British Air Force, on the Western Front, and in the ranks of the partisans. You should also remember about the participants in the Resistance and the Prague Uprising in May 1945.
    1. iouris
      iouris 18 January 2021 13: 16
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      Don't forget about thousands of Czechs

      Never forgotten. And give the exact numbers: how many Czechs fought against Hitler, and how much of what the protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia supplied Hitler with weapons: tanks, cannons, shells, aircraft, etc.
  17. Evil 55
    Evil 55 18 January 2021 02: 31
    +1
    If you want to live, to feed your family, go to work .. Moreover, the Czechs believed that the New Master came forever.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 18 January 2021 09: 03
      +1
      No, judging by the works of modern historians, the overwhelming majority of Czechs were absolutely confident in the victory of the enemy countries of Germany and in the subsequent restoration of Czechoslovakia. But this did not prevent them from working in enterprises. By the way, a significant part of the Protectorate officials, just in case, maintained contacts with the emigrant government of Beneš, or at least sympathized with it. This is reminiscent of the fact that after the war it turned out that half of the ministers of the French collaborationist government in Vichy were associated with the Resistance Movement.) By the way, one of them was François Mitterrand, the future head of the Socialist Party, and later President.
    2. iouris
      iouris 18 January 2021 22: 34
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      Quote: Angry 55
      the Czechs believed that the New Master had come forever.

      The owner is not new. Czechs are the same Germans. The famous automobile designer Hans Ledwinka spoke only German. Also, the Czech Porsche spent almost his entire creative life among the Germans. Only after the war did the French imprison him, as it were, for collaboration. Probably the DS-9 (de Gaulle and Fantômas car) is his brainchild.
  18. boriz
    boriz 18 January 2021 02: 33
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    You should also remember about the participants in the Resistance and the Prague Uprising in May 1945.

    I don't know who resisted whom there, but the mention of the Prague Uprising always infuriates me.
    Who the hell needed this uprising 5 May 1945 ?
    Only the Czechs themselves. They wanted to go down in history as fighters against Hitler.
    My dad finished the war in Berlin on May 5th. According to the ZhBD, the unit (396 zenap) was engaged in combat and political training. Translated into simple Russian, she took a break from the war. And here - here and rejoice!
    6 Guards the mechanized corps was ripped off and driven to Prague. 300 kilometers, not by BMW on the Autobahn. Tanks, artillery, motorized infantry. With him and 396 zenap, cover the mechanized corps on the march.
    8.05.1945/XNUMX/XNUMX the building was on the northwestern outskirts of Prague. He defended the "rebels".
    Dad could easily have died in May 45, just as his brother died in April 1945. near Konigsberg.
    And I would not have been born.
    And the Czechs produced whatever they wanted. Excellent quality. FV 189, hated by the entire Red Army, produced more than the Germans. For example, in 1941. The Bremen plant produced 99 units, and Aero (Prague-Vysočany) - 151 units.
    At the end of the war, they were honored to collect 11 pieces. Me 262.
    Not enough for them in 1968. piled up, you had to behave there like the Germans.
  19. sleeve
    sleeve 18 January 2021 04: 42
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    As they started in the 18th, they did not calm down. And now there. And Mother Russia is in her repertoire. That will form a body of prisoners. It will beat back Prague in its last breath. Even in the 68th "velvet" went, not like in Hungary. And you see the 68th remembered, and the rest (bad to us and good from us) is not.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 18 January 2021 09: 12
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      In 1968 they entered "velvet" because, unlike Budapest in 1956, there was no armed uprising. The Czechoslovak People's Army did not oppose in any way, moreover, most of its officers were opposed to Dubcek's supporters and reformers. And a significant part of the officer corps directly supported the entry of the OVD forces. Indirect evidence of this is that the events of 1968 did not affect the subsequent careers of the overwhelming majority of officers and generals of the ChNA.
      1. sleeve
        sleeve 18 January 2021 09: 31
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        There is such a thing. Not all of Czechoslovakia was with Dubcek. And the Hungarian version with bloody sauce was not particularly attractive. Still, the Chekhovs and Slovaks did not have so many hot-headed "veterans". And the 68th is not the 56th. But the Czech and Slovak army also has traditions. In the 38th, the same remained in the barracks ... In short, it's always great to "resist" when grown-up uncles don't pay attention to you.
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 18 January 2021 09: 47
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          In Budapest, some of the rebels were clearly anti-communist, among them were former Hortists and Nilashists. Although Imre Nagy was an ideological communist, but with a national bias. In Czechoslovakia, even the majority of those who were against the introduction of the Internal Affairs Directorate troops were in favor of continuing the construction of socialism. Although there were also anti-communist elements.
          1. sleeve
            sleeve 18 January 2021 10: 05
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            Here the discussion will not flare up, you cannot argue with the facts, although you can interpret it. By the way, the article raises an interesting question about the degree of participation in the genocide against the Soviet people of all Europe and the world. Does it work in this context as a moral justification that there was no choice, and the Europeans made weapons to kill us because there was nothing to feed our families with? After all, not all of Europe has switched to forced labor for soldering. We do not expect repentance, not the kind of upbringing that of the "poor, unhappy Europeans," who are ready to rattle in our direction, extinguishing their real guilt of backwardness and black ingratitude. The question seems to me also this: many people sell weapons, and people are killed by people, not pistols. But I don’t remember that the supply of weapons to outright cannibals and a man-hater was considered a blessing. What about the guilt complex of the Europeans-weapons-smiths of Reich?
  20. Konnick
    Konnick 18 January 2021 04: 58
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    It is important here that now the Czechs themselves have begun to write about this.

    They wrote before, there was such a Czech writer Jan Otchenasek, in the novel "Lame Orpheus" he quite truthfully described the attempts of Czech youth to organize resistance and sabotage.
  21. Growlers
    Growlers 18 January 2021 09: 54
    +3
    Every second cartridge fired by German soldiers on the Eastern Front was manufactured by Czech "patriots"
  22. bogart047
    bogart047 18 January 2021 11: 30
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    if you think so, then the Kalash in the hands of various mujahideen should have excited the minds of comrades from the regional committee. Yes, there were also Chinese copies, but still ... Workers are also people and they had families who wanted to eat. And they didn't give a shit about us then and now. Like us on them
  23. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 18 January 2021 15: 29
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    laughing A question to the "glorious Czech engineers" who designed the Pz Kpfw 38 (t) tank for them? laughing Not Alexei Mikhailovich Surin laughing It is not surprising that the Germans put the LT vz. 38 tanks into production practically unchanged, except that the radio station was replaced by a FuG5. laughingParticipated in the development of the Panzerjäger auf 38 (t) ACS (aka Hetzer) for the needs of the Wehrmacht. "As head

    design bureau BMM, carefully sabotaged the work. The deadlines were delayed, various solutions were proposed, which obviously went to the detriment of the development. The front road wheels of the tank destroyer were overloaded. Surin knew for sure about these problems, but, of course, he kept silent. He risked very much, because the problems he created surfaced during military trials. To solve the problem of self-propelled guns of the April release, in which the overload was especially pronounced, Surin suggested making several holes in the front sheet, covered with sheets of 5 mm thick. While the Waffenamt was thinking, that's exactly what they did with all 20 machines. Thus, the design engineer made the April self-propelled guns unusable for combat use. There was already an act of open sabotage, but Surin was lucky. He feigned a severe attack, which, in fact, saved him. Therefore, Surin was not touched after the liberation of Czechoslovakia. As for the damaged vehicles, they were sent to training units, making a note “not to be used in battle”. laughing
  24. Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 18 January 2021 18: 15
    +1
    But we must also not forget that the weapons that killed our grandfathers and great-grandfathers during the Great Patriotic War were created, among other things, by the hands of French workers. Goebbels was very pleased with the French. He said that they work even better than the German workers.
  25. nnz226
    nnz226 19 January 2021 14: 03
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    Yes, all Czechs within the borders of their occupied country worked hard on the Wehrmacht in the Stakhanov way. The underground workers in terms of numbers - within the statistical error!
  26. Grossvater
    Grossvater 19 January 2021 16: 33
    -1
    Well, look.
    World War II, tank war. In total, the United Europe produced about 50 thousand tanks and self-propelled guns. Of these, the Czechs made about 6 thousand. It turns out 12% take 12% of the official figure of the losses of the Soviet Union, 27 million, it turns out that the Czech Republic accounts for about three million killed Soviet people.
    On the other hand, the main losses either occur in 41 years, or the events of 41 years caused the death of Soviet people. Agree that even if a captured Red Army soldier was shot by a Polish overseer in Auschwitz in 42nd, the reasons for his death are still in 41st.
    So in 41, Czech tanks accounted for about a third of the combat-ready tanks of the German army. It turns out that the Czechs killed about 9 million.
    Now in the Czech Republic is home to about 10 million har. I don't think there were more in the 40s.
    It turns out that every Czech, including babies and old people, killed one Soviet citizen.
    In general, this is the contribution of the Czech Republic to the greatest tragedy in the history of our country.
  27. Grossvater
    Grossvater 19 January 2021 16: 41
    -1
    Regarding the liberation of Prague and the Konev monument.
    In May 45, ten Konev's tank corps marched on Prague under the slogan: "Free the Czech brothers."
    And in theory, conversations in the troops should have been different. Let's imagine for a moment:
    - Petya, do you remember Vaska burned down in the whole crew?
    - What a lieutenant, I remember!
    - So, Hetzer burned it. And they made them here, near Prague. So, load with a shrapnel and do not yawn at the course!
    The fact that this conversation never took place is a huge achievement of the command of the Red Army and of course Marshal Konev personally.
    The Czechs must lick the monument's pedestal with tongues every day! According to their conscience, they should be mixed with caterpillars with dung for their crimes!
  28. Keer
    Keer 20 January 2021 01: 00
    +2
    Claims against them look strained in 18, they got out of the Germans, at 38 they returned, the generation did not even change, what did they care about the war in the east.