"Overdid it": experts drew attention to the mistakes of Polish snipers during the exercise

Military exercises of the 15th Gizyck Mechanized Brigade took place in northern Poland. This brigade is deployed in the Warmińsko-Mazurskie Voivodeship of Poland, bordering the Kaliningrad region. Armored vehicles with remotely controlled anti-tank missile launchers and sniper units from the 2nd Mechanized Battalion were involved in the exercises near the borders of Russia.

Sniper exercises, which were part of the 15th brigade of the Polish army, attracted special attention of experts.

In particular, it is indicated how Polish snipers in winter conditions decided to disguise their weapon - primarily sniper rifles. In this regard, we can state the following: "Overdid it," making mistakes.

The weapon is wrapped in several layers with white masking cloth. In this case, the tissue reaches not only the barrel, but even the muzzle - the muzzle brake (compensator).

In some photos, you can see how layers of fabric, overlapping each other, hang from the weapon. And in some cases, they are bolted to sniper rifles with a rope or wire.

If we assume that with this variant of disguising the weapon, shooting was carried out, then the shots could lead to the ignition of the fabric that was used by Polish snipers and reached the muzzle. In a forest (albeit a winter one), as a result, there would be a danger of fire of dry grass and brushwood.

It is noted that if snipers were going to change positions, then it is in principle unacceptable for the cloth used for camouflage to hang from the weapon. This can lead to the fact that the rifle will cling to everything that gets in the way when moving (for example, tree branches), and interfere with this movement.

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[nnm]

And for you, that tissue inflammation in such a situation is a discovery?

[raw174]

Quote: nnm

And for you, that tissue inflammation in such a situation is a discovery?

And what will the fabric ignite? This is a sniper, not a machine gunner, the barrel will not heat up until the fabric ignites, especially in winter and the powder gases will not ignite, the impact is short. The muzzle tissue is more likely to get wet and freeze, which is not a problem.

[nnm]

Why won't they ignite ?! And how! Even for the sake of interest in his youth, the PM was somehow wrapped)))) perfectly lights up

[Shurik70]

Yes, do not care.
If all the observers' claims to the Polish troops are "rags hanging from the muzzle", this means that they were generally forbidden to criticize Poles significantly, and they were told to come up with some trifle that could be corrected in five minutes (well, you can't do without criticism).

[cormorant]

It looks like these warriors have a problem with financing. Can they drop a link to aliexpress, there are tons of camouflage tape of any color.

[Thrifty]

There, judging by the photo, white and beige fabrics were used, which is a demoscing element for specialists. And the winding of the weapon really leaves much to be desired.

[Well done]

There is one more "but". It is not known from what rifles they fired there, but a sniper rifle does not need a brake-compensator, in principle, this is not a machine gun. For the same legendary SVD, this is called a "flame arrester". Although he doesn't extinguish sparks. (Maybe they poured too much gunpowder, it does not burn out completely))

[Thrifty]

Has anyone told them that bearded Russian men are wandering in droves in their forests, and they are all called Ivan Susanin? ??

[Runway]

I join. There have never been any more stupid statements.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: WFP

I join. There have never been any more stupid statements.

As well as the article itself.

[Reserve buildbat]

It seems that the rifles were simply wrapped with sheets that were stolen from the locals. And it is very interesting how they will aim through the optics even in a weak wind, when a piece of sheet is dangling in front of the sight.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Stroibat stock

And it is very interesting how they will aim through the optics even in a weak wind, when a piece of sheet is dangling in front of the sight.

Well so they found a way out

And in some cases, they are bolted to sniper rifles with a rope or wire.

Well, why aim, the main thing is to look like this

[hydrox]

Well, psheki fell out into the winter forest to go skiing, and at the same time report on the exercises done - well, so the exercises, and not a real war - and they will report to the owners for the money they received!

[Lipchanin]

So I about it.
Why aim, burn cartridges ...
The main thing is that the gimp is

[Runway]

And what was needed to cover the weapon?
The fabric grabs with frost and moisture, nothing prevents you from freeing the sight.

[hydrox]

Of course it does not interfere!
Especially if the sniper has been in position for several hours: he needs to run, warm up, pump blood - and lie down again (especially if the position is on a tree (as in the White-Finnish 1939 (the Finns taught our snipers a lot - it came in handy later) ))

[APASUS]

Quote: Stroibat stock

I wonder how they will aim through the optics, even in light winds, when a piece of sheet is dangling in front of the sight.

And when this sheet gets wet, it freezes and adds weight ............

[Aviator_]

Blank note. Newsroom salaries seem to depend on the number of publications, not their quality.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Everything is clear here - they wound a lot, the "experts" said that nothing is visible and ignition is possible, they will wind less - they will say that camouflage measures have not been followed.
A win-win situation!

[Ros 56]

Come on, critics, because the whole world knows the Poles as the most invincible, they won so many battles, where there are Russians and Germans, and even more so the French and other gay Europeans.

[dust31]

they were good warriors, at one time, and they drank a lot of blood for us.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: dust31

they were good warriors, at one time, and they drank a lot of blood for us.

Ours also shot them well in the early 80s.

[dust31]

probably, but opinions that cause disdain or disrespect for the enemy are always annoying. What are the "patriots" with stickers on cars where two men are in a pose and instead of heads there is a star and a swastika. Would read these scum that they are molded, about attempts to break the blockade of Leningrad, and what losses we suffered there, and much more. They would have looked at the search engines, or participated themselves. And we had to fight with the Poles for a very long time and with great difficulty, one should not think that now they are much dumber than us, I'm not sure.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: dust31

probably, but opinions that cause disdain or disrespect for the enemy are always annoying.

So I'm not writing about disrespect.

Quote: dust31

What are the stickers on the car where there are two men in a pose and instead of heads a star and a swastika.

I don’t understand at all what a fig on German cars they make stickers like: "Thank you grandfather for the victory." Or "Forward to Berlin!" Such stickers on Volkswanigs and geldings look especially gloomy. They bought a German car, paid them to the burghers, and they make stickers about grandfather. Disgusting ....

[Ros 56]

And in what historical wars did they win, besides fussing with Russians and Ukrainians with Lithuanians? Calm down already, they never went beyond their edges, unlike the same Swedes, French and Germans.

[Bolt cutter]

Wet fabric will not light up, but will hide from IR radiation.

[Konnick]

Quote: WFP

I join. There have never been any more stupid statements.

The experts are not real ...
Sofa ...

[Alex_You]

Quote: Konnick

Quote: WFP

I join. There have never been any more stupid statements.

The experts are not real ...
Sofa ...

So sofa experts are the most expert of experts.

[K-50]

I understand that they are counting on only one shot, because there is absolutely nowhere to extract the spent cartridge case from the wrapped rifle.

[Kerensky]

because from a wrapped rifle there is absolutely nowhere to extract a spent cartridge case.

Hmm! Have you seen how the ejected cartridge case glitters in the sun? Have you tried catching with your hand, knowing that it is hot? Do you know how to recharge a Mauser 98-K or Mosin with a brush?
Let everyone do their own thing ...

[K-50]

and here "reloading with a brush and catching flying hot casings with your hands"?
He has the entire bolt assembly wound !!!

[Well done]

If the flame arrester is wrapped in a cloth, then it will tear it to hell when fired, and at most it will start to smolder smelly. I hope they didn't wind the shutter, if only for a spectacular photo? ...

[Kerensky]

If the flame arrester is wrapped in a cloth, then it will tear it to hell when fired, and at most it will start to smolder smelly.

Ilya.
Here are the Finns - they were fools! In Talvisot the trophy "Lights" were wrapped in bandages.

[voyaka uh]

The Taliban also kept their weapons in the stowed position completely wrapped in rags. And only in the positions they deployed.
When the sniper takes a position, he will bend off the excess fabric.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: voyaka uh

The Taliban also kept their weapons in the stowed position completely wrapped in rags. And only in the positions they deployed.

There is sand in Afghanistan. Our weapons were cleaned every day, including disassembling magazines and wiping cartridges. And what about the Finns? Snow?

[Constanty]

If we assume that with this variant of disguising the weapon, shooting was carried out

It was more like a "show", a "demonstration exercise" - theater. Not only the trunks and compensators are covered, but also the sight lens in the bottom photo.
Rather, they fired shouting "bang" like Dutch soldiers.

Another thing

armored vehicles with remotely controlled anti-tank missile systems

The only guided missiles on the armored vehicles of the 15th Gizyck Mechanized Brigade
These are 9M14 Malutka missiles on BWP-1 and similar 9P133 Malutka-P missiles on BRDM-2.

This shows how dangerous these exercises were. Just a shame

[iouris]

Take the Polish Gingerbread from the shelf.

[PN]

In a winter forest, you will not ignite either brushwood or dry grass. All our childhood we went to the coast to burn reeds. Until you put it in a pile, nothing will burn!

[Lord of the Sith]

Misery, they took the sheets from grandmothers, I'm a sniper from my mother now, heheh)))

[Freeman]

Military exercises of the 15th Gizyck Mechanized Brigade took place in northern Poland. This brigade is stationed in the Warmińsko-Mazurskie Voivodeship of Poland, bordering the Kaliningrad region.

They are not preparing there. They will host the European Biathlon Championships in 2021, from January 27 to 31.
How would the precedent of 1939 be repeated -

Germany accidentally conquered Poland for biathlon competition.

[rocket757]

In particular, it points out how Polish snipers decided to disguise their weapons in winter conditions - primarily sniper rifles. In this regard, we can state the following: "Overdid it", making mistakes.

Molosy, keep it up!

[Obliterator]

And who are the judges? What are these experts themselves? Instructors from special forces training centers or some television balabolians who think that they know everything in the world about military science and history?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

The training of Russian snipers, as well as weapons and equipment, are many times worse than that of the Poles, that's where you need to criticize.

And who is there from the Poles, how and what they reeled, it does not matter, they will rewind, but we, as all wretched with the snipers, it was and will remain unknown how many years - SVD and 10 rounds at the shooting range, that's all the preparation.

[Ingenegr]

Quote: Welldone

It is not known from what rifles they fired there, but a sniper rifle does not need a brake-compensator, in principle, this is not a machine gun.

1. Unknown is spelled together.
2. I recommend firing a rifle in .300 Win Mag without a muzzle brake. I think the principles will change immediately.
3. The article itself was written by a person who is not very friendly with weapons and sniper tactics.

[KSVK]

Quote: Ingenegr

1. Unknown is spelled together.
2. I recommend firing a rifle in .300 Win Mag without a muzzle brake. I think the principles will change immediately.
3. The article itself was written by a person who is not very friendly with weapons and sniper tactics.

Absolutely agree!
On point 2 I will add. You can shoot. But getting there is problematic with a hard recoil. And why should a three-hundredth be fiddled with, you need to immediately 338. :) By the way, the sniper caliber adopted for service is quite useful.

[Evil 55]

Considering that snipers work in a snow-covered forest, crawling or short dashes, closing the muzzle to prevent snow from entering the barrel is a very thoughtful initiative ... and the fabric will not catch fire, it is checked ..

[Dilettante grandfather]

I read the comments of the experts. Opinions were divided, but! .. Why then no one noticed one small detail ... The weapon is tightly wrapped in cloth, disguised, right? The main controversy was over the muzzle closed by the cloth, right? "Lights up - does not light up, interferes with the shot - does not interfere". What can the fabric on the muzzle get in the way if no one is going to shoot? ..

[Radius]

Come on ... The white sheet will come in handy later. Instead of a flag! :)

[Prisoner]

Let them be wrong. The more wrong the better. Although about the fire of rags ... the sniper does not hit the tea in bursts. A rifle is not a machine gun.

[zenion]

Here you are wrong. It was not a white fabric, but some lace panties for women from Ukraine. There were many of them, such a job that such cowards as a passport of qualifications.