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Kiev ponders how to respond to US sanctions against the Chinese shareholder of Motor Sich

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Among a number of Chinese companies included in the sanctions list by the US Department of Commerce was one of the investors in the Ukrainian Motor Sich enterprise, Skyrizon. More precisely, the United States is introducing a special export control regime with respect to this company from the PRC.


Now Kiev is considering how to react to the US sanctions against the Chinese shareholder of Motor Sich.

The PRC company itself considers Washington's actions towards it into unacceptable pressure on Chinese business and will use all legal instruments to protect its interests. It would be worthwhile to somehow protect its interests and the Motor Sich plant, for which the expansion of the sales market for high-tech products is not only important, but also a necessary condition for survival.

Serhiy Zgurets, who is considered an expert in Ukraine, we believe that the decision of the US Treasury Department does not change anything for the enterprise, because Kiev has previously adhered to all the requirements of the United States, not taking any serious independent steps without the consent of the Americans.

Every year, between the competent authorities of the United States and Ukraine, meetings of working groups on control over Ukrainian exports are held. Further, the State Export Control Service of Ukraine (SSEC) scrupulously adheres to all the instructions of its American partners. There is nothing strange in this, because even this organization itself was created on the recommendations of the United States and operates under the constant control of Washington.

Therefore, all export transactions of Ukraine concerning defense products, and earlier were made only subject to the approval of the United States. This means that there will not be the slightest indignation on the part of Kiev at the actions of the United States against the Chinese co-owner of one of the leading enterprises in Ukraine.

According to US Treasury Secretary Wilbur Ross, Skyrizon threatens the security of the United States by acquiring and deploying foreign technology, which it then uses in the interests of the Chinese People's Liberation Army.

Let us remind that earlier it was the USA that actually thwarted the deal on the sale of the controlling stake in Motor Sich to Chinese companies. And in China itself, they pinned great hopes on Motor Sich in connection with the possibility of using engine technology for aviation.
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  1. kursovik
    kursovik 17 January 2021 12: 40
    +19
    How to react? bow your heads and kneel down, you are already used to this ..
    And blame Russia for everything ..)))
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 17 January 2021 12: 43
      +7
      Quote: kursovik
      How to react? bow your heads and kneel down, you are already used to this ..
      And blame Russia for everything ..)))

      Well, they diligently follow orders from Washington, which is exactly what demands of them. Colony of the United States. What do you want from her?
    2. XXXIII
      XXXIII 17 January 2021 17: 38
      0
      Quote: kursovik
      How to react? bow your heads and kneel down, you are already used to this ..
      And blame Russia for everything ..)))

      True, to take and perform in silence, without even thinking, and while bending to blame Russia. That Russia is affecting the US. laughing
      1. hirurg
        hirurg 17 January 2021 20: 49
        +1
        Forgive me ... the woman thinks how to react ... She will definitely be torn apart, but who will pay ... and will she ever ...
        1. voronin
          voronin 18 January 2021 13: 47
          +17
          Quote: hirurg
          I'm sorry .. a woman and thinks how to react

          You can advise: "Do not fuss under the client"
  2. Orange bigg
    Orange bigg 17 January 2021 12: 41
    +4
    Q.E.D. It is a colony and a colony in Africa.
    Kiev adhered to all the requirements of the United States before, without taking any serious independent steps without the consent of the Americans.

    Every year, between the competent authorities of the United States and Ukraine, meetings of working groups on control over Ukrainian exports are held. Further, the State Export Control Service of Ukraine (SSEC) scrupulously adheres to all the instructions of its American partners. There is nothing strange in this, because even this organization itself was created on the recommendations of the United States and operates under the constant control of Washington.

    Therefore, all export deals of Ukraine concerning defense products, and earlier were made only subject to the approval of the United States.
    1. Rubi0
      Rubi0 17 January 2021 13: 49
      +4
      RF It would be necessary to learn how to relate to countries such as the outskirts, loans and a lot of conditions, and only under the strict supervision of their protégés in all supervisory boards, and not this, that's all, world peace, socialism and assistance to fraternal peoples. When to eat. there is nothing about any independence no one dreams of
      1. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 17 January 2021 13: 58
        +1
        Our mentality is different. They raised us differently.
        1. XXXIII
          XXXIII 17 January 2021 17: 42
          0
          Quote: OrangeBigg
          Our mentality is different. They raised us differently.

          Yes, you always have to choose either pz or starve.)) But now we are getting smarter to do better, and pz a little on soft places and starve a little to be in good shape.
  3. Mouse
    Mouse 17 January 2021 12: 42
    +5
    in Kiev pondering how to react to the US sanctions against the Chinese shareholder of the Motor Sich enterprise

    CU belated ...
    And he was at a loss ... laughing
    1. hirurg
      hirurg 17 January 2021 20: 46
      +1
      They deserve it.
  4. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 17 January 2021 12: 44
    +2
    Mattress covers did not disrupt the sale of "Motor" - they sold it. The exact figure is not known, say 51 to 76%. Mattress covers do not allow to consolidate everything into one package, since the shares were sold in parts. But the situation there is "muddy", Boguslaev sold the plant, but does not want to give it back. Although the plot is twisted famously - the SBI opened criminal cases against the SBU officers, who imposed arrests for abuse of office.
    1. Avior
      Avior 17 January 2021 13: 43
      -1
      Boguslaev is a man of age, the sale of the plant to him is a logical decision., He received the money, he does not care further, he does not refuse to sell it.
      The Chinese wanted to bypass the rules and formalize the sale retroactively, but it did not work out, and the case hung in the antimonopoly committee.
      And now the Chinese are puffing up and threatening to submit to some kind of incomprehensible court, but the matter does not go further than threats.
      And given the fact that the Americans have imposed sanctions against Shkirizon, the case with the legal registration of shares will drag on for a long time, it seems.
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 17 January 2021 17: 34
        0
        He does not refuse)))) for four years he uses what does not belong to him))))
        1. Avior
          Avior 17 January 2021 17: 58
          +1
          These are the problems the Chinese have created for themselves.
          1. TermNachTer
            TermNachTer 17 January 2021 22: 22
            0
            The problem of the Chinese is that they do not know what a "scam in hohlyatski" is))))
  5. YOUR
    YOUR 17 January 2021 12: 46
    -1
    How should they react - with sadness
  6. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 17 January 2021 12: 48
    +6
    And there is nothing to think. Redesign the plant for the production of sunflower oil and processing, pig products! Agrarian superpower, go it ..))))))
    Was "Motor Sich" and will become "Pig Sich"
    1. Mouse
      Mouse 17 January 2021 12: 52
      +6
      processing, pig products!

      Problem ... pork is bought in Poland ... wink
    2. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 17 January 2021 12: 54
      +3
      Then probably Pig Srych.
    3. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 17 January 2021 12: 58
      +4
      The problem, however, is that there are no pigs or cows - there is nothing to process. At the moment there are 3 million cows in Ukraine, in 1989 there were 28 million. Attention is the question - what are milk and dairy products made of?))))
      1. VORON538
        VORON538 17 January 2021 13: 10
        +3
        Apparently, from the same as in other countries. Chemistry and powders rule. In our country, by the way, you can still buy real milk only in the village, the rest is mostly a surrogate made of powder. hi
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 17 January 2021 13: 21
          0
          All my childhood in the USSR, we only sold restored milk in the city. I just hate its taste ever since.
          1. VORON538
            VORON538 17 January 2021 13: 23
            +1
            I was more fortunate in this regard
            Parents kept a cattle, later they took it from their mother-in-law, now they can buy it, since they bring it to our town from neighboring villages.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 17 January 2021 14: 06
              0
              In Khabarovsk, there was always no ice with milk and such joys are simply not available to us city residents)
              1. VORON538
                VORON538 17 January 2021 14: 10
                0
                The benefits are a little provincial wink
          2. No name B
            No name B 17 January 2021 14: 54
            0
            At school, they gave milk diluted with water; in life, they never bought this slop during the Soviet Union.
          3. Elturisto
            Elturisto 18 January 2021 11: 18
            0
            99% of natural milk is recovered. Raw milk cannot be stored for a long time, even in the cold. But now, unlike the USSR, you can enjoy pseudo dairy products based on vegetable fats :), there is no natural milk.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 18 January 2021 11: 20
              0
              Nonsense. Everything that is sold with vegetable fats is on separate shelves on which this fact is indicated. We have a bunch of competitive dairy factories in our stores now from all over the region with normal milk. And I do not buy the restored one. Small storage only. The choice is simply huge. From farmer's with a fat content of 6+ to the usual 3,2 and 2,5.
              1. Elturisto
                Elturisto 18 January 2021 15: 42
                0
                Dear cows, then where is the milk from? Fats are like vegetable fats :) ...
            2. zwlad
              zwlad 18 January 2021 13: 43
              0
              I don’t know about you, but we have normal milk in stores, what was under the USSR, what is being sold now. There is even whole milk. And cheese factories in the region 2. Since the agricultural is not ditched.
              1. Elturisto
                Elturisto 18 January 2021 15: 44
                0
                In the RSFSR there were more than 20 million cows, in the God-rescued RF 1,5 million - where is the milk from?
                1. zwlad
                  zwlad 18 January 2021 16: 06
                  0
                  In January 2020, according to calculations, in farms of all categories (the Republic of Mordovia), ... milk was produced - 35,8 thousand tons. Probably from here.
                  1. Elturisto
                    Elturisto 18 January 2021 18: 23
                    0
                    yeah, with 1 million inhabitants -1,12 g / day per person :) - drink some milk :)
                    1. zwlad
                      zwlad 18 January 2021 20: 17
                      0
                      My arithmetic gave me the figure of 1,19 liters of milk per person per day.
        2. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 17 January 2021 18: 48
          +1
          Quote: VORON538
          By the way, we can also buy real milk for the time being only in the village, hi
          We have a Dairy Plant nearby, milk is transported from the villages to the dairy; on the way to the dairy, the MILK CARRIERS (GAZelle with a barrel) drive through the city, make stops and sell milk. At our house, the milk tanker makes two stops a week. Usually they buy 3 liters - 150 rubles smile
  7. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 17 January 2021 12: 51
    0
    Biden will come to rule everything! Sonulya will help! The Chinese will share Ukraine with the Americans, and the Turk will have something perepadet.
    1. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 17 January 2021 18: 54
      0
      Quote: tralflot1832
      .Do maidanilis.Prodovat anything left?
      They started selling clay in Ukraine - KAOLIN and OPOK. Land for sale - buyer bully digs a pit and takes away clay - there is a sludge pit and ruined nature in the vicinity ...
      The opinion of local residents is up to "Ilyich's lamp" ...
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 17 January 2021 19: 22
        0
        It has even come down to clay! Is it Kaolin porcelain or insulators?
        1. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 17 January 2021 19: 29
          +1
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Is kaolin porcelain or insulators?
          Kaolin - porcelain, faience.
          The price of OGOK Chelyabinsk is from 9 to 11 rubles per kilogram.
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 17 January 2021 19: 32
            +2
            Well, what a good price per kg. The Chinese will scoop up the mantle! Thank you enlightened!
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 17 January 2021 19: 33
              0
              Chelyaba through the chiefs hometown!
      2. Avior
        Avior 17 January 2021 23: 30
        +1
        Do you think that clay extraction sites are not sold in Russia?
        A study is being held in the Kapachevsky district of the Bryansk region, 143 hectares, with stocks of clay raw materials and the proposed construction of a brick plant. Either the investor is invited. Stocks amount to 8,4 million m2031. License until XNUMX. Undisputed heat reserve.

        hi
        1. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 17 January 2021 23: 39
          0
          Quote: Avior
          Do you think that clay extraction sites are not sold in Russia?
          hi
          Russia allowed to wash GOLD...
          Submit an application - you are given a plot of 2 km of a river, in the Far East or the Far North, but you cannot mine more than 30 kg, you cannot use heavy equipment and explosives. hi
          1. Avior
            Avior 17 January 2021 23: 51
            +1
            The wind rushes - ho-ho-hugh!
            -. Straight to California.
            Sacramento is a rich land:
            They row gold with a shovel!

            if it were so easy to get 30 kg of gold, no one would work, only gold was mined. I am the first:)))
  8. bar
    bar 17 January 2021 13: 04
    +1
    Now Kiev is considering how to react to the US sanctions against the Chinese shareholder of Motor Sich.

    React as usual - and us then for scho ??? recourse
    1. Avior
      Avior 17 January 2021 13: 45
      0
      And what is it to them? Sanctions against the Chinese
      1. bar
        bar 17 January 2021 13: 51
        0
        Well, yes, Motor Sich has nothing to do with Ukrainians laughing
        1. Avior
          Avior 17 January 2021 14: 00
          +2
          Has not been for a long time. Motor Sich is a private enterprise, joint-stock company.
          Only the Ukrainian state pays taxes.
          1. bar
            bar 17 January 2021 14: 43
            0
            Quote: Avior
            Only the Ukrainian state pays taxes.

            Well, yes, "maybe taxes" and maybe some jobs. What else do you think a normal enterprise should do? Maintain a bunch of social networks and infrastructure of some monotown? There is no such thing in Russia for a long time.
            1. Avior
              Avior 17 January 2021 15: 38
              +1
              So it does it.
              Social programs, by the way, also contain.
              Recreation centers, medicine and so on.
              Boguslaev is still a Soviet director, there are not many of them left.
              Of course there is no monotown, Zaporozhye is clearly not a monocity.
              1. bar
                bar 17 January 2021 15: 49
                0
                Quote: Avior
                So it does it.
                Social programs, by the way, also contain.
                Recreation centers, medicine and so on.

                Well, you yourself answered your own question
                And what is it to them? Sanctions against the Chinese

                Sanctions against the Chinese, and Buslaev's sales and profits will fall. Well, then medicine, recreation centers, etc.
                This is what I was trying to convey. I hope it worked.
                1. Avior
                  Avior 17 January 2021 15: 56
                  +1
                  Where will they fall from? The plant has nothing to do with the sanctions against the Chinese from Shkirizon.
                  And social science is clear that it will go away, an anachronism in our time. Boguslaev is not eternal, he is 80 years old. Actually, even under Boguslaev, it is already being reduced, wages are raised, social programs are reduced, young people are generally interested in wages in the first place, and not in social services.
  9. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 17 January 2021 13: 16
    +1
    US Treasury Secretary Wilbur Ross says Skyrizon threatens the security of the United States

    And what does not interfere with the security of the United States can only be a village toilet in the Russian village. And even then they will find a threat, you know where.
  10. Thorvlobnor IV
    Thorvlobnor IV 17 January 2021 13: 31
    +1
    The Ukrainian company Motor Sich, which specializes in the production of aircraft engines, has signed a contract for the supply of power plants for the needs of the Chinese Air Force. 400 AI-322 engines will cost the Chinese side $ 800 million, writes the Defense Express portal, citing industry sources.
    The AI-322F aircraft engine was developed specifically for the L-15 combat training aircraft. The design is based on the AI-222K-25F experimental unit (with an afterburner). The main difference of the new version is the new purchased products (PKI), created as part of the import substitution program. Work on the AI-322F began in 2012 at the Ivchenko-Progress State Enterprise, and by 2016 the tests of the new product were completed.
    Content source: https://naukatehnika.com/ukraina-postavit-400-aviadvigatelej-ai-322-v-kitaj.html
    1. Avior
      Avior 17 January 2021 13: 50
      +3
      Motor Sich works steadily, and there are prospects for both the Chinese and the Turks.
      Not as, of course, as in the days of the USSR, but quite acceptable in modern times, it is expanding, diversifying products - they began to produce modern composite blades, carry out remotorization of Soviet helicopters, opened a new training and simulator center.
      The troubles with the purchase of the plant do not concern the plant itself.
      1. Thorvlobnor IV
        Thorvlobnor IV 17 January 2021 14: 03
        +1
        Mi-8 cockpit: impressive, however.

        1. Avior
          Avior 17 January 2021 14: 22
          +2
          Glass cockpit of the modernized Mi-8 developed by motor sich

          With a complex of weapons and protection
          https://diana-mihailova.livejournal.com/3987227.html
        2. Dmitriy444
          Dmitriy444 18 January 2021 09: 38
          0
          What impressed you? We have such Mi-8s with FCS have been serially already for 8 years!
  11. Ros 56
    Ros 56 17 January 2021 13: 55
    -1
    Come on, is there anything in the pot to think about? fellow
  12. Russian Bear_2
    Russian Bear_2 17 January 2021 14: 13
    0
    Take it under the hood and follow all instructions from the metropolis.
  13. Cowbra
    Cowbra 17 January 2021 15: 10
    -1
    How to react? Ask daddy, otherwise he will blow the belt again! That's:
    Kiev has previously adhered to all the requirements of the United States, without taking any serious independent steps without the consent of the Americans.
  14. dima314
    dima314 17 January 2021 16: 10
    0
    no matter how sanctions came from China for kidos on Motor Sich)
  15. APASUS
    APASUS 17 January 2021 16: 38
    -1
    Sheriff - Indians do not care about the problems! What would the Ukrainian side expect?
  16. iouris
    iouris 17 January 2021 18: 11
    0
    "They are thinking in Kiev ..." - already ridiculous.
  17. Jaromir
    Jaromir 17 January 2021 23: 09
    +15
    Kiev ponders how to respond to US sanctions against the Chinese shareholder of Motor Sich

    The Kiev occupation authorities in Ukraine can only silently obey Washington.
  18. Intruder
    Intruder 18 January 2021 11: 17
    0
    And in China itself, they pinned great hopes on Motor Sich in connection with the possibility of using engine technology
    there still at the granary, the Progress design bureau named after Ivchenko remained, although the Turks are courting him now, deaco garneau! :)
  19. Gato
    Gato 18 January 2021 21: 18
    0
    There is nothing strange in this, because even this organization itself was created on the recommendations of the United States.

    Organizations that do not act on the recommendations of the United States are considered "strange" in Ukraine