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Ukrainian Minister: Provision of housing for ATO veterans will stretch for 10 years

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In Ukraine, they presented data on how the situation with the solution of the housing issue for the so-called "ATO veterans" is progressing. Recall that the "anti-terrorist operation" in Ukraine was called military action against their own compatriots. For some time now, the ATO was renamed OOS.


Back in 2014, the authorities promised free housing to every Ukrainian participant in the hostilities in the Donbas. As a result, the criteria for providing housing have changed many times.

Today, according to the Minister of Veterans Affairs of Ukraine Yulia Lapunina, a large queue of those who are to receive apartments has formed.

Official:

Last year 589 defenders of Ukraine received apartments.

At the same time, according to the Ukrainian minister, at least 10 times more military personnel remain in the queue for housing.

Lapunina used the term “it seems”:

And the total queue seems to be 5,5 thousand. So this (the provision of housing) will stretch for 10 years. And you can't wait, because people need housing now.

The head of the ministry said that the Ukrainian government is considering "alternative methods" for the possible provision of "veterans" of hostilities in the Donbas with housing. In particular, we are talking about concessional mortgage lending, but this program for most of the Ukrainian military remains practically inaccessible due to the small amount of subsidies from the state.

To reduce the number of applicants for new housing, the Ukrainian government previously introduced new rules on who can be considered a participant in hostilities. As a result, the queue was reduced artificially. That is why there are about 5,5 thousand people in the queue today, although initially this number was determined by tens of thousands.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 17 January 2021 11: 57
    +8
    Yes, and "the flag in their hands" ... Better to let our Ministry of Defense report on the program of providing housing for military personnel, especially those who have gone to the reserve and have the right to it
    1. frruc
      frruc 17 January 2021 12: 03
      +5
      And the general queue, it seems 5,5 thousand. So this (the provision of housing) will stretch for 10 years. And you can't wait, because people need housing now.

      covid will contribute to the appropriate area.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 17 January 2021 12: 27
        +2
        Quote: frruc
        And the total queue seems to be 5,5 thousand.

        Interested in the figure "5,5 thousands", and found the following information on the net:

        MOSCOW, December 21, 2020 - RIA Novosti.

        Russian President Vladimir Putin announced that by 2023, 138 thousand servicemen should be provided with permanent, and almost 200 thousand more - with service housing.
        Speaking at an expanded meeting of the Collegium of the Ministry of Defense, the President called increasing the level of social guarantees for the military one of the priority tasks. He recalled that since October 1 this year, the pay of servicemen has been indexed by 3%. According to him, the rates of housing provision are not decreasing either.

        Quote: GDP
        "Thus, from 2018 to 2023, almost 138 thousand servicemen will be provided with permanent housing, and 198 thousand for service personnel, and taking into account compensations for housing rentals, the latter figure will increase, since in 2020 alone 59,6 thousand people received such compensations. "

        He specified that over the past three years, more than 15 servicemen have purchased apartments for subsidies allocated from the federal budget, and 108 servicemen have received service housing.
        Quote: GDP

        In 2021-23, more than 10 thousand people will receive permanent housing, and 90 thousand will receive service.
        "The accumulative mortgage system is working effectively. In 2018-2020 alone, its use has made it possible to provide housing for more than 57 thousand servicemen. In the next three years, thanks to this system, another 55 thousand people should receive apartments."
        1. svp67
          svp67 17 January 2021 12: 53
          +4
          Quote: Insurgent
          He recalled that since October 1 this year, the pay of servicemen has been indexed by 3%.

          And he did not say there what was the INFLATION for this year? And why is it that inflation costs are charged to servicemen not in JANUARY, over the past year, but only in OCTOBER
          Quote: Insurgent
          in total, almost 138 thousand servicemen will be provided with permanent housing,

          And that's GREAT, but how much more is REQUIRED?
      2. Insurgent
        Insurgent 17 January 2021 12: 33
        +9
        Quote: frruc
        you can't wait, because people need housing now

        Bandera, is it a man?
        1. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 17 January 2021 18: 00
          0
          Quote: Insurgent
          Quote: frruc
          you can't wait, because people need housing now

          Shariy in the video told about the workers of "Ukrzheleznitsa" living in railway carriages - literally PEOPLE live in half-rotted carriages with their families - and they have been waiting for a "queue for housing" for 20-25 years. Will quit "Ukrzheleznice" - to lose a place in the queue and "hopes" for living space ... At the same time, they send "pay for housing and communal services."
          Shariya's party brought a car of coal for heating to the railway workers.
      3. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 17 January 2021 12: 53
        +2
        Quote: frruc
        And you can't wait, because people need housing now.

        Provide them with one brotherly "apartment"?
        1. Arthur 85
          Arthur 85 17 January 2021 13: 59
          +1
          Well, why are you doing that? The logging barrack is also a living space ... Well. And jobs are nearby, you can save on travel. Fortunately, they wrote on themselves in social networks for three life sentences ...
          1. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 17 January 2021 14: 43
            +2
            Quote: Arthur 85
            A logging barrack is also a living space

            But this is temporary housing. Then they come back and everything starts with a new "Muscovite z'ili our fat". Now, if at one time our grandfathers banderlog not a term of imprisonment, but immediately "permanent residence" determined, you see, Ukraine would be completely different today.
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 17 January 2021 12: 05
      +8
      Ukrainian Minister: Provision of housing for ATO veterans will stretch for 10 years

      "Boiler veterans," underdog cyborgs? Was it lucky not to get a registration in a cemetery, or to be gnawed / taken away by dogs, foxes, boars and crows?

      All ! On this your luck came to an end yes You are on "Nenka", she "will take care" of you ...

      They counted on land in Donbass - SHISH! And with the hatina in the Outskirts will be the same story, fool ...
      1. Machito
        Machito 17 January 2021 12: 16
        +8
        Housing them inhumans? !!!! Wooden Macintosh am
      2. fighter angel
        fighter angel 17 January 2021 13: 28
        0
        Dog boxes must be given them. The dog must live like a dog.
      3. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 17 January 2021 14: 02
        -1
        On the one hand, at least the dogs were fed into the atoms, on the other hand, the Banderlog in terms of anatomy will look very similar to humans, and after this, dogs will start throwing themselves at people ...
    3. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 17 January 2021 12: 08
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      Yes, and "the flag in their hands" ... Better to let our Ministry of Defense report on the program of providing housing for military personnel, especially those who have gone to the reserve and have the right to it


      At the end of last year, the following figures were announced.
      ... "Thus, from 2018 to 2023, almost 138 thousand servicemen will be provided with permanent housing, and 198 thousand for official housing, and taking into account compensations for housing rentals, the latter figure will increase even more, since in 2020 alone, 59,6 thousand people received such compensations. ", - said Putin.

      He specified that over the past three years, more than 15 servicemen have purchased apartments for subsidies allocated from the federal budget, and 108 servicemen have received service housing. In 2021-23, more than 10 people will receive permanent housing, and 90 will receive service housing, the president said.


      The Cabinet wants to expand the list of military, claiming housing out of turn
      "The accumulative mortgage system is working effectively. In 2018-2020 alone, its use made it possible to provide housing for more than 57 thousand servicemen. In the next three years, thanks to this system, another 55 thousand people should receive apartments," Putin added.

      The President assured that the authorities will continue to improve the living conditions of servicemen and their families, as well as military pensioners.

      “I am sure that the well-established rear, without any doubt - and you, I am sure, share this approach - will strengthen the combat capability of the army and navy and the country's security, and will increase the prestige of military service,” he concluded.

      https://ria.ru/20201221/voennye-1590214014.html
    4. Thrifty
      Thrifty 17 January 2021 12: 23
      +3
      Theirs "apartments" in the cemetery are tired of waiting for the "owners"!
  2. Magic archer
    Magic archer 17 January 2021 11: 59
    +3
    Apparently an error has crept in here. Zero forgot one more))) there is no money in the state, all the benefits have been cut or canceled, and here housing)))
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 17 January 2021 12: 02
      +3
      They were promised the land. They all have to prepare for the ground for another 10 years. There are many who wish, but today there is not enough land for everyone.
      1. Machito
        Machito 17 January 2021 12: 17
        +5
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        They were promised the land. They all have to prepare for the ground for another 10 years. There are many who wish, but today there is not enough land for everyone.

        In the Donetsk mines, you can bury the entire US.
        1. frruc
          frruc 17 January 2021 12: 44
          +2
          Well-known corrupt officials Biden & synovia wanted to settle there. good
          1. Machito
            Machito 17 January 2021 13: 34
            +1
            And Biden needs to be dug in there.
    2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 17 January 2021 12: 03
      +3
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Apparently an error has crept in here. Zero forgot one more))) there is no money in the state, all the benefits have been cut or canceled, and here housing

      They also promised to evict them for non-payment at the new rates. Well.
  3. APASUS
    APASUS 17 January 2021 11: 59
    +3
    The head of the ministry said that the Ukrainian government is considering "alternative methods" for the possible provision of "veterans" of hostilities in the Donbas with housing.

    Issue certificates for land in Crimea or for apartments in Donetsk? laughing laughing laughing
  4. Russ
    Russ 17 January 2021 12: 00
    +3
    the Ukrainian government is considering "alternative methods" for the possible provision of "veterans" of hostilities in the Donbas

    We know this alternative ... to take it ourselves, to loot is no stranger to ...
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 January 2021 12: 01
    +4
    Minister for Veterans Affairs of Ukraine Yulia Lapunina
    The minister does not even know the exact numbers (“it seems”), so her forecast of 10 years is too underestimated. So it is necessary to once again drive their "defenders" (from whom?) Into a couple of boilers and the queue will be reduced by several thousand.
  6. El Chuvachino
    El Chuvachino 17 January 2021 12: 03
    +7
    Don't give a damn about them at all.
  7. Poetry
    Poetry 17 January 2021 12: 04
    +3
    Each "ATO veteran" gets a cozy coffin. Cheap and cheerful.
    1. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 17 January 2021 18: 07
      +1
      Quote: Poetiszaugla
      Each "ATO veteran" gets a cozy coffin. Cheap and cheerful.

      All forest goes to the EU bully ... "ATO veterans" can only count on BU rubbish bag.
      1. Poetry
        Poetry 17 January 2021 18: 10
        0
        Tse Europa. Its back part (rump).
        1. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 17 January 2021 18: 21
          +1
          Quote: Poetiszaugla
          Tse Europa ..
          And what exactly a question?...
          "ATO veterans" before being sent to the ATO lived somewhere, each had a LIVING AREA, because in the ATO they did not recruit HOMES (at the conclusion of the contract they asked for a passport?). And the president's promise THREE presidential terms await - P. Poroshenko promised - 5 years (presidential term) have passed - 10 years left (two presidential terms), and given one year of V. Zelensky - 9 years left ... you can survive yes
  8. Bolt cutter
    Bolt cutter 17 January 2021 12: 14
    +2
    And the promise of a thousand hryvnia a day (the price of a bottle of vodka in England laughing ) for the warrior beaver wassat already done?
  9. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 17 January 2021 12: 24
    +4
    I look at the photos and I feel sorry for them ... The unfortunate faces. Form - like homeless people. Though they put pens on the heart, they were wretched ... And how it all began ..) "Those who want to take the Ukrainian oath, go out of order" ..)
    And these "warriors" stood and thought about the house and the hog. And also about how to steal diesel fuel from the unit, and exchange materials for a new shed, from a friend-warrant officer for a bottle. Well, not to the cold Russia they go? .. And here is a vegetable garden, and cucumbers, tomatoes, and a moonshine still .. Not life, but sugar. As the saying goes "and Galya in the little garden, and the pig in the jacket" ..)
    Serves it right, sim voYakAm ...... ()
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 17 January 2021 14: 05
      0
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      I look at the photos and I feel sorry for them ... The unfortunate faces.

      Someone, whom, but they are not at all sorry. It's just disgusting to watch.
  10. prior
    prior 17 January 2021 12: 58
    +1
    A good Bandera is a dead Bandera.
    Why do the dead need apartments?
    The coffins are just right for them and the stake is made of aspen.
  11. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 17 January 2021 13: 49
    +1
    Last year 589 defenders of Ukraine received apartments.

    The most distinguished Bandera, out of 5,5 thousand.
  12. Rubi0
    Rubi0 17 January 2021 13: 52
    +2
    If the ATO stretches for another 10 years, then the entire male population will be veterans)))
  13. Ros 56
    Ros 56 17 January 2021 13: 53
    0
    And why do they need apartments, the mess will begin and they will have a separate housing of 2 meters, and maybe a common communal apartment.
  14. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 17 January 2021 14: 20
    0
    Curious, what and where do they distribute? Are there some meters for each veteran? Or a family? In Kiev or Lisichansk?

    Only de jure beggars, or everyone?
  15. IRS
    IRS 17 January 2021 14: 59
    0
    The phrase "ATO veterans" sounds unnatural ... if nobody is to be judged or insulted, it would be more correct to say "ATO participants". There are war veterans. This is an honorary title, especially when the people are united, and the war is fought for their land and the right to live on it, and not for someone else ...
    Now there is Ukraine with its own flag, Russia is, also with its own flag, there is also the LPR and the DPR - for most people in Russia, and, I think, in Ukraine too, this "diversity" does not cause anything but sadness and disappointment .. Because, as, all the listed territories are represented by the same people, with the same culture, the same period of development, as a single nation. Everything that is now strong both in Ukraine and in Russia was achieved through the efforts of one people of one state - the Russian Empire, the period of the USSR only consolidated and developed what was achieved (when considering a long historical period, this is especially noticeable). Strength is one, so weaknesses are the same, isn't it, ... is this not a sign of real kinship? ...
    The spiritual roots of the Orthodox Faith are also one, like the people who were brought up on its values, matured and strengthened, without the consciousness of unity it is impossible to do this, for this Russia was united. It was not the princes and the boyars who united - the peoples were united, into one culture, into one essence, diverse, but one ... this was the power of consciousness of the Russian people acquired later.
    There is no consciousness of a Ukrainian person, and there never was, there is only the people, so the Ukrainian media filled this niche with widespread falsification, open lies and even outright delirium - they did everything so that the "rulers" of Ukraine sponsoring them could have the opportunity to rule and get rich.
    However, the concept of a Russian person without a part of Ukrainian culture becomes just as ridiculous and false and little-hit, gets overgrown with the same lies and propaganda as in Ukraine - the principle is simple, where there is no room for truth, there is only room for lies.
    The same will happen if you start to separate the Belarusians from the Russians - a social catastrophe and cultural degradation of both peoples will inevitably come as a result ... the time difference does not matter. ...
    And so, I read, ... "ATO veterans", ... - hurts the ear, I can't do anything ....
    "ATO veterans" ... These are the ones who have replaced the correct Russian language, which was the same for everyone, with swearing? ... Which was so remarkably corrected by the great Russian poet Alexander Sergeevich Pushkin, no culture is so lucky as the Russian one, its language is the legacy of the poet, including ... the great poet ... But in Ukraine it is not customary to talk about it. One gets the impression that their manner of screaming rather than talking is one of their "modern, highly effective, high-tech" weapons. Chemical weapons cannot be used, nor bacteriological, but you can swear all over the place. In general, it hurts the ear - and that's all. There is the Old Russian language, it has not gone anywhere, but for some reason in Russia they do not switch to it everywhere and do not speak it in all broadcasts - it would be funny if the Russian language was available. But on the other hand, Orthodox services in Russia are held in Old Russian, because the strength of the spirit comes from it. Spiritually, what has gained the power of words during the real trials of fire, cold and hunger sounds more true ... for each nation in its own language, and it is necessary to return to this, because the answers to the questions of today are in the past, therefore you need to speak in that language ... In general, everything has its place, there is undoubtedly an understanding of this principle in Ukraine, but it is being fulfilled not in favor, but to the detriment of raising the livestock, not the people ...
    "ATO veterans" ... these are those behind whom those are hiding who sold everything that is most dear and dear to any Ukrainian for a cheap price to states whose cultures, except for robbery and enslavement
    never lived with anything? Here is an example, one of the most striking. Ukraine is a black earth region, everyone knows it. But, not everyone knows that black soil is not earth, it is a unique biosystem, the formation of which takes on average ... about 1000 years, it is hard to believe, who did not take their word for it. So now Ukrainian black soil is a product that is exported, including by rail, for example, to Germany. The black earth layer is only one meter thick, is located on the surface, it is not so difficult to collect and remove it, but in the same place it is no longer replenished, at some significant rate. The question arises, if the rulers of the state of Ukraine are trading in their own pocket (but not in the people's one), the last thing that the people have, then who will be protected by the "ATO veterans" and most importantly ... from whom ...
    There is such a work by Paustovsky, directly related to the above, this is "The Tale of the Forests", it is about the exploits of the Hitlerite army in Belarus, I think the "ATO veterans" did not even read it, otherwise there would be much less of them in the queue for housing ...
    And the last thing. It is difficult for me to call veterans those who deliberately cripple civilians with artillery fire, especially old people and women with children. These are not veterans - they are geeks, human in the full sense of the word. They should not be given housing, but a court order on their death penalty. Veterans of the SS troops, who are still alive, including in Germany, look more like the title of a veteran than the geeks from this very ATO. The German army saw its defeat, one after the other, and the complete collapse of the state along with the regime, was captured and forced labor in almost all parts of the USSR, Germany, having decided to seize someone else's, lost her and received a stigma from which now it is impossible to wash, no matter how many lies the pitchfork propagandists ... But the "Ukrainian veterans" do not see the shores yet ... but this will not always be so ...
  16. Growlers
    Growlers 17 January 2021 16: 04
    0
    Ukraine, at least in its current form, is unlikely to last 10 years ...
    1. pristav
      pristav 17 January 2021 21: 10
      0
      Your words to God in the ears ...
      1. Growlers
        Growlers 18 January 2021 09: 01
        +2
        I agree. This country resembles a chicken with a severed head running around the yard, but it also has a dropper attached.
  17. gv2000
    gv2000 18 January 2021 09: 30
    +2
    Since 2006, after 25 years of service, I have been trying to get state-guaranteed housing from the Ministry of the Russian Federation. Just recently, through the courts, he repulsed another attempt to throw me out of the queue and out of the service apartment into the street. Throw a 60-year-old military veteran out on the street? For morphs, this is apparently no problem. They don't see the log in their own eye.
  18. iouris
    iouris 18 January 2021 13: 19
    0
    ... that is, never. Well, so they would write.
  19. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 18 January 2021 20: 50
    0
    The ATO wipes need only one housing: 3 cubic meters of Donetsk land. By the way, you can provide it quickly enough.