Military Review

Due to frost and snowfall at the training camp of the Estonian reserve soldiers there were problems with uniforms

83

The training camp for sergeants and reserve officers of the Estonian Armed Forces, which is arranged at the Tapa military site, has revealed certain problems.


These problems are connected with the uniforms of the Estonian military personnel. The reserve officers summoned to the training camp received equipment, which, as it turns out, does not save from the cold. The fact is that at the time of gathering, the air temperature in the Estonian town of Tapa drops to 12 degrees below zero with heavy snowfall and humidity over 90 percent.

Hats on thin artificial fur quickly become icy during the incessant snowfall and do not save them from the cold and wind, which makes Estonian servicemen inconvenient when participating in combat training operations.



It is also indicated that the winter headgear of the Estonian army has a specific cut - the hats are "shallow" - they barely stick to the crown, which causes some inconvenience in strong gusts of wind.



To rectify the situation, the command allowed the use of additional "accessories" - hoods, which were worn on the head under the caps.



During the maneuvers in the Estonian Tapa, various types of military equipment are involved, including self-propelled artillery.

Due to frost and snowfall at the training camp of the Estonian reserve soldiers there were problems with uniforms

The Tapa test site is used not only by the Estonian military, but also by representatives of other NATO countries, who are stationed in this Baltic country on a rotational basis.
83 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. The comment was deleted.
  2. The comment was deleted.
  3. bar
    bar 17 January 2021 09: 29
    +14
    Hot Estonian guys froze in the bitter cold at -12? Sad ... sad
    1. Deck
      Deck 17 January 2021 09: 48
      -41%
      Small problems in the army of a tiny neighboring country are a wonderful reason for the joy of the citizens of a great and powerful nuclear superpower. Undoubtedly.
      1. nnm
        nnm 17 January 2021 09: 54
        +29
        1. This is a small problem only because you are not crawling in the snow in this cap. And it’s not for you to change everything, starting from the norms of supply on a national scale, from development, ordering new models and replacing an item of uniform in parts and in warehouses in a far from rich economy.
        2. What does joy have to do with it? We are just laughing at how, in an obvious question, the limitrophes, who do not hide their anti-Russian positions, screwed up. Or should we feel sorry for them, understand and forgive them?
        1. Deck
          Deck 17 January 2021 10: 08
          -23%
          As a citizen of great Russia, I don't care which countries have which caps. If only your soldiers were dry and warm. And this reminds of its pettiness the hissing of attendants at the entrance. In addition, it is not clear where the unknown author got this information. Or came up with
          1. nnm
            nnm 17 January 2021 10: 25
            +12
            But this is in vain. You need to know the potential enemy to the smallest detail. Moreover, we did not appoint this enemy for ourselves. This is a deliberate choice of the Baltic dwarf tigers themselves.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 17 January 2021 10: 59
              +9
              Quote: nnm
              You need to know the probable enemy to the smallest detail.

              Comrade Deck (Pertti) simply does not realize that the assessment of the qualities and characteristics of such a "trifle" as the enemy's uniform is carried out by the whole General Staff, where information from various intelligence services is collected and processed.
              1. Deck
                Deck 17 January 2021 13: 58
                -12%
                I do not think that foreign citizens have the right to lecture Russians. Isn't it an insurgent
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 17 January 2021 14: 11
                  +9
                  Quote: Deck
                  I do not think that foreign citizens have the right to lecture Russians. Isn't it an insurgent

                  Some not only need to be taught mind, but also physically educate to love the Motherland.
                  And "foreigner" is just a wording from you, and then not for long.
                  1. Deck
                    Deck 17 January 2021 14: 23
                    -16%
                    You are there at home, in your country, do whatever it is with your hands. Do you sew winter hats for the militia yourself or ask Russia? Or is it not a royal business. And our homeland, thank God, is different, and it will remain so. There, at home, and be brought up in any way.
                    1. The comment was deleted.
                    2. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 18 January 2021 10: 09
                      +4
                      Quote: Deck
                      You are there in your own country, do whatever it is with your hands.

                      The claim is not clear No. Regarding the form - this is how it is sewn here.
                      Winter uniform hats of the old "Soviet-style"- yes, they are being brought from Russia" from illiquid assets. "
                      But the point is that these hats are not worn on the front lines, they get by with comforters and balaclavas.
                      Uniform fur / hat just to go in uniform on leave and appear before the authorities.
                      Actually, if it were not there, then the mountain from the shoulders, less to the "form of clothing" would cling.

                      Quote: Deck
                      Thank God, our homeland is different, it will remain so.


                      I had a big Motherland in the whole USSR. So big and will remain yes .
                2. bk316
                  bk316 18 January 2021 14: 01
                  0
                  I do not think that foreign citizens have the right to teach Russians

                  It is not a sin to listen to the advice of some foreign citizens.
                  And some Russians have a place in the clinic, but better on the bunks. laughing
            2. VORON538
              VORON538 17 January 2021 13: 39
              +6
              By the way, one of the factors that influenced the plans of the Nazis in relation to the USSR was the relatively poor clothing supply of the fascists for our frosts, well, they were not ready for the most part to maintain the database in the conditions of the Russian winter. It's already a month like minus 20-25 during the day, minus 30 at night and below, humidity is certainly not 90, and 70 is enough, and even a breeze from the north! Schools were not closed for children. Blagoveshchensk, Far East! hiIn Yakutia in the afternoon a little less than minus 50, they are seriously going to fight with Russia ???
      2. Ros 56
        Ros 56 17 January 2021 10: 30
        +5
        And you cry. Normal healthy laugh at supermen, though unfinished.
      3. bar
        bar 17 January 2021 10: 59
        +9
        Quote: Deck
        Small problems in the army of a tiny neighboring country are a wonderful reason for the joy of the citizens of a great and powerful nuclear superpower. Undoubtedly.

        If the "tiny neighboring country" positions itself as the vanguard of NATO in the confrontation with the "mighty superpower", then why not rejoice at their failures? The enemy is always the enemy, regardless of size. "The bug is small, but it stinks" - folk wisdom.
      4. avg
        avg 17 January 2021 13: 01
        +6
        Quote: Deck
        Small problems in the army of a tiny neighboring country are a wonderful reason for the joy of the citizens of a great and powerful nuclear superpower. Undoubtedly.

        Well, we do not cry. As one of my comrades recently complained: "In Kostroma -20, and more than one overwhelming Pole ..."
      5. Ulysses
        Ulysses 17 January 2021 19: 14
        +1
        We saw these "small problems" ..

        In Stalingrad.
        1. hirurg
          hirurg 17 January 2021 21: 15
          +1
          Oh. Rats are freezing too.
      6. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 18 January 2021 13: 52
        +1
        It's funny, so we laugh. Why restrain yourself? We owe them, or what?
        We in Russia love the circus and do not deny ourselves the pleasure of laughing at various clowns and buffoons.
    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. silverura
      silverura 17 January 2021 10: 54
      -6
      Hot Estonian guys froze in the bitter cold at -12? Sad

      Ours, too, was not warm in the Finnish 1939. I don’t think there’s a reason for banter.

      1. YOUR
        YOUR 17 January 2021 11: 06
        +1
        That is the reason for banter.
        Let me remind you that almost 1939 years have passed since 82, after the Germans froze out during the Second World War, a little less than 80 years have passed, and that, in your opinion, this experience can simply be forgotten and not a comfortable and practical uniform, but a beautiful one, in order to proudly pass in front of the girls?
        1. The comment was deleted.
        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 17 January 2021 11: 43
          -4
          Quote: YOUR
          to make not a comfortable and practical uniform, but a beautiful one, so that they proudly pass in front of the girls?

          the shape is made from the climatic features of the region, if in winter there is not always a minus, then, accordingly, the shape is prepared
      2. Dart
        Dart 17 January 2021 16: 07
        +4
        So we took into account our lessons, so don't bother about the mistakes of the "enemy" ...
    4. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 17 January 2021 11: 41
      +1
      Quote: bar
      with a terrible frost at -12?

      truth for the sake of about 20 and for this region it is a terrible frost
  4. nnm
    nnm 17 January 2021 09: 31
    +6
    I don't know why, but the following images from the past came to my mind:

  5. Mykhalych
    Mykhalych 17 January 2021 09: 32
    +23
    Yes, they shob the anticyclone from Yakutia, then minus 12 will be shown in paradise
    Xia ..
    1. Pravodel
      Pravodel 17 January 2021 09: 36
      0
      then minus 12 paradise will show

      With an anticyclone from Yakutia at minus 12, they can already warm up. Only with sugrev you need to remember to dance, otherwise the hats may fall off your ears ...
      1. venik
        venik 17 January 2021 11: 04
        +3
        Quote: The Truth
        Only when you get dry, you need to remember to dance, otherwise the hats can fall off your ears ..

        =======
        good I did not understand WHAT it will fall off: HATS or EARS? bully
        1. Pravodel
          Pravodel 18 January 2021 08: 14
          0
          WHAT will fall off: HATS or EARS?

          So the brave Estonian warriors can and hats and ears fall off. The main thing is to keep warm and not freeze from this ...
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 17 January 2021 11: 44
      0
      Quote: Mykhalych
      Yes, they shob the anticyclone from Yakutia, then minus 12 will be shown in paradise

      so he came, wrestling here after plus six minus twenty
  6. Well done
    Well done 17 January 2021 09: 36
    +4
    Again, probably the Russians are to blame? The notorious General Frost? ..
    1. VORON538
      VORON538 17 January 2021 13: 41
      +4
      He just warned potential suicides lol
  7. svp67
    svp67 17 January 2021 09: 36
    +7
    The fact is that at the time of gathering, the air temperature in the Estonian town of Tapa drops to 12 degrees below zero with heavy snowfall and humidity over 90 percent.
    Well, of course, there never was and here again
    It is also indicated that the winter headgear of the Estonian army has a specific cut - the hats are "shallow" - they barely stick to the crown, which causes some inconvenience in strong gusts of wind.
    Excuse me here, "they were banging their eyes, sho kupuvali". Here or "force" until the ears freeze or order normal hats
    To rectify the situation, the command allowed the use of additional "accessories" - hoods, which were worn on the head under the caps.
    But here I did not understand at all, and the ears on these earflaps cannot be used by religion, or are they decorative there?
    1. nnm
      nnm 17 January 2021 09: 56
      +6
      Quote: svp67
      But here I did not understand at all, and the ears on these earflaps cannot be used by religion, or are they decorative there?

      Colleague, you are too fast! They'll figure it out by spring.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 17 January 2021 11: 04
        0
        Quote: nnm
        Colleague, you are too fast! They'll figure it out by spring.

        And I like the Yudashkin hat more.
        1. svp67
          svp67 17 January 2021 11: 07
          +4
          Quote: tihonmarine
          And I like the Yudashkin hat more.

          Actually it takes ... wink
      2. venik
        venik 17 January 2021 11: 07
        +1
        Quote: nnm
        Colleague, you are too fast! They'll figure it out by spring.

        =======
        good There are no words! good drinks
      3. Captain45
        Captain45 17 January 2021 15: 48
        +2
        Quote: nnm
        Colleague, you are too fast! They'll figure it out by spring.

        Estonians they are .... Estonians. I read here the other day on the Web, one Estonian was stuck at the airport in Thailand for three months due to viral quarantine, and when it was finally time to fly home, he, being at the airport, managed to miss the departing plane and again stayed indefinitely time lol
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 17 January 2021 10: 03
      +6
      Quote: svp67
      And the ears on these earflaps are not allowed by religion, or are they decorative there?

      Decorative, of course. The Russians have normal earflaps, and they have hats like a skullcap, Europa-s
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 17 January 2021 17: 03
        0
        Quote: Egoza
        Decorative, of course. Normal earflaps are for Russians

        Especially the polar ones, the elongated ears of which can be wrapped around the neck.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 17 January 2021 10: 52
      +5
      Quote: svp67
      But here I did not understand at all, and the ears on these earflaps cannot be used by religion, or are they decorative there?

      Yes, normal comfortable hats, of course, if you sit in a trench for 10 hours, then not only your ears, but me too ... will fall off.
      1. svp67
        svp67 17 January 2021 10: 57
        +2
        Quote: tihonmarine
        fall off.

        That's why their hats are FASHIONABLE
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 17 January 2021 11: 27
          +2
          Quote: svp67
          That's why their hats are FASHIONABLE

          Yes, no, what is it fashionable, such hats were still sewn in the USSR. But the national one, which was worn even in the 90s, differs from modern ones.
          It looks like our hat, only without ears, but with cuffs that were tied at the back. Very interesting, it turns out, as it were, our hat is dressed back to front.
          1. svp67
            svp67 17 January 2021 11: 46
            0
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Yes, no, what is it fashionable, such hats were still sewn under the USSR.

            For whom?
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Very interesting, it turns out, as it were, our hat is dressed back to front.

            Are there any photos?
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 17 January 2021 12: 52
              0
              Quote: svp67
              Are there any photos?

              Not such is not available, now only you can see the old people in the village.
              But you can imagine our hat, but there are no ears.
    4. venik
      venik 17 January 2021 11: 06
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      But here I did not understand at all, and the ears on these earflaps cannot be used by religion, or are they decorative there?

      ======
      The charter does not allow! lol
      1. Runway
        Runway 17 January 2021 11: 20
        +1
        No. The head of the collection is a stupid person.
  8. Coconut
    Coconut 17 January 2021 09: 40
    +2
    clowns .. no comments
    1. kytx
      kytx 17 January 2021 12: 18
      +1
      what about clowns?
      the uniform is probably NATO
      although Estonians probably don't dress like that in civilian life
      the climate there is far from African
  9. cniza
    cniza 17 January 2021 09: 47
    +2
    It is also indicated that the winter headgear of the Estonian army has a specific cut - the hats are "shallow" - they barely stick to the crown, which causes some inconvenience in strong gusts of wind.


    If the problem is only in the hats, then everyone should be afraid of them ... lol
  10. Poetry
    Poetry 17 January 2021 09: 54
    0
    Maybe that's why the NATO command
    The slow Estonians were given the order:
    "Don't throw a grenade at an Estonian soldier."
    (Otherwise, on the backswing, it will hit just)
  11. HAM
    HAM 17 January 2021 09: 54
    0
    And the lace panties ..... not otherwise Slava Zaitsev staged a sabotage ... but beautiful ...
  12. Ros 56
    Ros 56 17 January 2021 10: 26
    +4
    laughing Let the hats be nailed to the stupid ones. laughing Then it will definitely not blow away. Or let them, like the Nazis during the Second World War, wrap themselves in scarves.

    They are their heirs.
  13. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 17 January 2021 10: 35
    +8
    Thanks to this news, we learned that there are airfields in Estonia ....
  14. Vadim Ananyin
    Vadim Ananyin 17 January 2021 10: 38
    +4
    We had -20 yesterday and nothing. I went fishing in minus 27-30 to the Pskov lake. No problem. Let them temper together with the Englishmen.
  15. APASUS
    APASUS 17 January 2021 10: 38
    +6
    The advanced army of NATO, it is they, in which case they will bring democracy? It is necessary to warn, here in the east of the Lena region it dropped to -38 at night, turkey poults were freezing ...........
  16. Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 17 January 2021 10: 44
    +1
    When buying, the pharmacy clearly said that masks DO NOT work in the cold!
    1. Vadim Grigoriev
      Vadim Grigoriev 17 January 2021 18: 29
      0
      Of course they just ... freeze!)
      1. Whirlwind
        Whirlwind 17 January 2021 18: 44
        +1
        The filter fibers of the mask are damp from breathing and freeze up ...
  17. Tagan
    Tagan 17 January 2021 10: 47
    +3
    Quote: Deck
    Small problems in the army of a tiny neighboring country are a wonderful reason for the joy of the citizens of a great and powerful nuclear superpower. Undoubtedly.

    If these undersides had not been rushing about and telling how they would masterfully reflect the aggression of Russia, they would not have looked so comical and would not have earned the attention of "evil tongues". So everything is fine.
  18. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 January 2021 10: 48
    +5
    the air temperature in the Estonian town of Tapa drops to 12 degrees below zero
    And at this time, at 30 degrees of frost in the Urals, live firing takes place. L / s is healthy, cheerful and does not complain about the cold when performing the assigned tasks. This I mean that some people (NATO) are all going to fight with Russia, and on its territory.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 17 January 2021 11: 54
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      And at this time, at 30 degrees of frost in the Urals, live firing takes place.

      It is so ... But frost-frost in different climates is felt differently.

      Case from practice - "Srochka", Arkhangelsk region, frost at -30, me and a colleague, originally from Perm, patrol in the unit. I look ... Lenya begins to "sell yeast" and ask to go to the barracks to warm up.
      I told him with a "trick": "Lyonya, you're a Siberian! How so?"to which he replied -"We have frost, dry, and no wind"...

      Actually, the article says about this:
      the air temperature in the Estonian town of Tapa drops to 12 degrees below zero with heavy snowfall and humidity over 90 percent

      They say - "No bad weather, wrong clothes". And this is the" jamb "of the Estonian Defense Ministry, which dressed the army in useless uniforms.
      But nevertheless, no matter what, the army is obliged to carry out the assigned tasks in any conditions.
  19. Cowbra
    Cowbra 17 January 2021 11: 03
    +2
    Tie your scarves like the Fritzes at Stalingrad
  20. Freedim
    Freedim 17 January 2021 11: 23
    +1
    They don't write anything about diapers frozen to the opam ... they are shy.
  21. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 17 January 2021 11: 27
    +3
    Comrades of the Baltic states, take care of the personnel laughing
    1. BISMARCK94
      BISMARCK94 17 January 2021 12: 11
      +1
      Our hats are trump cards, no doubt about it. But pea jackets are crap. You stand on the parade ground at -15 with the wind and do not save nicherta, vests helped out, but they were not all.
      1. Dart
        Dart 17 January 2021 16: 17
        +4
        Well, you probably remembered your service? in the late 80s, too, in the winter a pea jacket or an overcoat ... the pea jacket is all good, normal, only my neck practically did not protect ... and the current VKBO set is generally a thing, I personally like it! If you work in the cold, or go fishing, only it, well, with some of its additions, in the form of woolen thermal underwear ..
        1. BISMARCK94
          BISMARCK94 17 January 2021 17: 13
          +2
          yes, service) in general, I also like the kit, especially the fleece, insulated pants and mittens. But some enemy of the people used a pea jacket and socks ...
      2. bk316
        bk316 18 January 2021 14: 07
        0
        that is, on the parade ground at -15 with the wind and they do not save nicherta, vests helped out, but they were not all.

        And the muffler? We were given out in the field ...
  22. Lesorub
    Lesorub 17 January 2021 11: 51
    +2
    Hats on thin artificial fur quickly become icy during the incessant snowfall and do not save them from the cold and wind, which makes Estonian servicemen inconvenient when participating in combat training operations.

    The hats were probably created by some fashion designer - the soldiers of the Estonian army felt the consequences of "beauty")).
  23. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 17 January 2021 11: 53
    +2
    Frozen mavpochki laughing
  24. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 17 January 2021 12: 12
    +2
    They want to drive us into depression, but you just have to laugh from all these idiotas and laugh loudly so that the whole planet can be heard.  laughing
  25. tank66
    tank66 17 January 2021 12: 24
    0
    Hmm. Do the heirs of the green brothers somehow turn blue. Or do they turn blue? winked
  26. Luty
    Luty 17 January 2021 13: 05
    +4
    Masks are especially effective in cold weather, condensation collects under them. And it's not a matter of hats, but a habit of comfort.
  27. Vadim_888
    Vadim_888 17 January 2021 17: 41
    +1
    Only a helmet from a spacesuit will save Estonians in the cold laughing
  28. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 17 January 2021 19: 10
    0
    Quote: Insurgent
    Quote: Deck
    I do not think that foreign citizens have the right to lecture Russians. Isn't it an insurgent

    Some not only need to be taught mind, but also physically educate to love the Motherland.
    And "foreigner" is just a wording from you, and then not for long.

    do not reflect on him))) I, as a CITIZEN of the Russian Federation, allow you sound criticism and even teachings on the case ... my word, his word)))))) in general, do not react
  29. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 17 January 2021 20: 33
    0
    Quote: BISMARCK94
    yes, service) in general, I also like the kit, especially the fleece, insulated pants and mittens. But some enemy of the people used a pea jacket and socks ...

    Yes, in my time this was not given out in the MPR. ZabVO.RHB.
  30. faterdom
    faterdom 17 January 2021 22: 02
    0
    They have to sue Russia.
    It blows from there.
    We must demand compensation for suffering.
  31. Denis812
    Denis812 17 January 2021 22: 23
    0
    12 degrees, and they have already stuck?
    Do the kurats know exactly what climatic zone they are in? :)
  32. Vlad world
    Vlad world 17 January 2021 23: 23
    +1
    Damn, and AWOL at below -30 degrees and without pants (just in case). True, there by bus and back 10 kilometers on foot and run. There is a comforter on the head - one eyes are open. Why did they cross to the other side .. And here only -12. Yes, just heat. And they complain ...
  33. Evil 55
    Evil 55 18 January 2021 02: 51
    0
    Today we have -30, at night it was -35 ... and we live at the latitude of Sochi ... only in the Far East.
    1. bk316
      bk316 18 January 2021 14: 12
      0
      only in the Far East.

      Yes, tonight in the suburbs it was 24. How are they going to fight?
      And yesterday, returning from the dacha near Tver, I broke a wheel.
      An hour of fucking on the asphalt on the side of the road at -22, seems to be alive, although not young already.
  34. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 18 January 2021 20: 52
    0
    Chukhonsky brakes learned too late that winter had come ...
  35. Igoresha
    Igoresha 18 January 2021 21: 58
    0
    bought used Colambia jackets, they are both light and warm