Due to frost and snowfall at the training camp of the Estonian reserve soldiers there were problems with uniforms

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The training camp for sergeants and reserve officers of the Estonian Armed Forces, which is arranged at the Tapa military site, has revealed certain problems.

These problems are connected with the uniforms of the Estonian military personnel. The reserve officers summoned to the training camp received equipment, which, as it turns out, does not save from the cold. The fact is that at the time of gathering, the air temperature in the Estonian town of Tapa drops to 12 degrees below zero with heavy snowfall and humidity over 90 percent.



Hats on thin artificial fur quickly become icy during the incessant snowfall and do not save them from the cold and wind, which makes Estonian servicemen inconvenient when participating in combat training operations.



It is also indicated that the winter headgear of the Estonian army has a specific cut - the hats are "shallow" - they barely stick to the crown, which causes some inconvenience in strong gusts of wind.



To rectify the situation, the command allowed the use of additional "accessories" - hoods, which were worn on the head under the caps.



During the maneuvers in the Estonian Tapa, various types of military equipment are involved, including self-propelled artillery.

Due to frost and snowfall at the training camp of the Estonian reserve soldiers there were problems with uniforms

The Tapa test site is used not only by the Estonian military, but also by representatives of other NATO countries, who are stationed in this Baltic country on a rotational basis.
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    3. bar
      +14
      17 January 2021 09: 29
      Hot Estonian guys froze in the bitter cold at -12? Sad ... sad
      1. -41
        17 January 2021 09: 48
        Small problems in the army of a tiny neighboring country are a wonderful reason for the joy of the citizens of a great and powerful nuclear superpower. Undoubtedly.
        1. nnm
          +29
          17 January 2021 09: 54
          1. This is a small problem only because you are not crawling in the snow in this cap. And it’s not for you to change everything, starting from the norms of supply on a national scale, from development, ordering new models and replacing an item of uniform in parts and in warehouses in a far from rich economy.
          2. What does joy have to do with it? We are just laughing at how, in an obvious question, the limitrophes, who do not hide their anti-Russian positions, screwed up. Or should we feel sorry for them, understand and forgive them?
          1. -23
            17 January 2021 10: 08
            As a citizen of great Russia, I don't care which countries have which caps. If only your soldiers were dry and warm. And this reminds of its pettiness the hissing of attendants at the entrance. In addition, it is not clear where the unknown author got this information. Or came up with
            1. nnm
              +12
              17 January 2021 10: 25
              But this is in vain. You need to know the potential enemy to the smallest detail. Moreover, we did not appoint this enemy for ourselves. This is a deliberate choice of the Baltic dwarf tigers themselves.
              1. +9
                17 January 2021 10: 59
                Quote: nnm
                You need to know the probable enemy to the smallest detail.

                Comrade Deck (Pertti) simply does not realize that the assessment of the qualities and characteristics of such a "trifle" as the enemy's uniform is carried out by the whole General Staff, where information from various intelligence services is collected and processed.
                1. -12
                  17 January 2021 13: 58
                  I do not think that foreign citizens have the right to lecture Russians. Isn't it an insurgent
                  1. +9
                    17 January 2021 14: 11
                    Quote: Deck
                    I do not think that foreign citizens have the right to lecture Russians. Isn't it an insurgent

                    Some not only need to be taught mind, but also physically educate to love the Motherland.
                    And "foreigner" is just a wording from you, and then not for long.
                    1. -16
                      17 January 2021 14: 23
                      You are there at home, in your country, do whatever it is with your hands. Do you sew winter hats for the militia yourself or ask Russia? Or is it not a royal business. And our homeland, thank God, is different, and it will remain so. There, at home, and be brought up in any way.
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                      2. +4
                        18 January 2021 10: 09
                        Quote: Deck
                        You are there in your own country, do whatever it is with your hands.

                        The claim is not clear No. Regarding the form - this is how it is sewn here.
                        Winter uniform hats of the old "Soviet-style"- yes, they are being brought from Russia" from illiquid assets. "
                        But the point is that these hats are not worn on the front lines, they get by with comforters and balaclavas.
                        Uniform fur / hat just to go in uniform on leave and appear before the authorities.
                        Actually, if it were not there, then the mountain from the shoulders, less to the "form of clothing" would cling.

                        Quote: Deck
                        Thank God, our homeland is different, it will remain so.


                        I had a big Motherland in the whole USSR. So big and will remain Yes .
                  2. 0
                    18 January 2021 14: 01
                    I do not think that foreign citizens have the right to teach Russians

                    It is not a sin to listen to the advice of some foreign citizens.
                    And some Russians have a place in the clinic, but better on the bunks. laughing
              2. +6
                17 January 2021 13: 39
                By the way, one of the factors that influenced the plans of the Nazis in relation to the USSR was the relatively poor clothing supply of the fascists for our frosts, well, they were not ready for the most part to maintain the database in the conditions of the Russian winter. It's already a month like minus 20-25 during the day, minus 30 at night and below, humidity is certainly not 90, and 70 is enough, and even a breeze from the north! Schools were not closed for children. Blagoveshchensk, Far East! hiIn Yakutia in the afternoon a little less than minus 50, they are seriously going to fight with Russia ???
        2. +5
          17 January 2021 10: 30
          And you cry. Normal healthy laugh at supermen, though unfinished.
        3. bar
          +9
          17 January 2021 10: 59
          Quote: Deck
          Small problems in the army of a tiny neighboring country are a wonderful reason for the joy of the citizens of a great and powerful nuclear superpower. Undoubtedly.

          If the "tiny neighboring country" positions itself as the vanguard of NATO in the confrontation with the "mighty superpower", then why not rejoice at their failures? The enemy is always the enemy, regardless of size. "The bug is small, but it stinks" - folk wisdom.
        4. avg
          +6
          17 January 2021 13: 01
          Quote: Deck
          Small problems in the army of a tiny neighboring country are a wonderful reason for the joy of the citizens of a great and powerful nuclear superpower. Undoubtedly.

          Well, we do not cry. As one of my comrades recently complained: "In Kostroma -20, and more than one overwhelming Pole ..."
        5. +1
          17 January 2021 19: 14
          We saw these "small problems" ..

          In Stalingrad.
          1. +1
            17 January 2021 21: 15
            Oh. Rats are freezing too.
        6. +1
          18 January 2021 13: 52
          It's funny, so we laugh. Why restrain yourself? We owe them, or what?
          We in Russia love the circus and do not deny ourselves the pleasure of laughing at various clowns and buffoons.
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      3. -6
        17 January 2021 10: 54
        Hot Estonian guys froze in the bitter cold at -12? Sad

        Ours, too, was not warm in the Finnish 1939. I don’t think there’s a reason for banter.

        1. +1
          17 January 2021 11: 06
          That is the reason for banter.
          Let me remind you that almost 1939 years have passed since 82, after the Germans froze out during the Second World War, a little less than 80 years have passed, and that, in your opinion, this experience can simply be forgotten and not a comfortable and practical uniform, but a beautiful one, in order to proudly pass in front of the girls?
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          2. -4
            17 January 2021 11: 43
            Quote: YOUR
            to make not a comfortable and practical uniform, but a beautiful one, so that they proudly pass in front of the girls?

            the shape is made from the climatic features of the region, if in winter there is not always a minus, then, accordingly, the shape is prepared
        2. +4
          17 January 2021 16: 07
          So we took into account our lessons, so don't bother about the mistakes of the "enemy" ...
      4. +1
        17 January 2021 11: 41
        Quote: bar
        with a terrible frost at -12?

        truth for the sake of about 20 and for this region it is a terrible frost
    4. nnm
      +6
      17 January 2021 09: 31
      I don't know why, but the following images from the past came to my mind:

    5. +23
      17 January 2021 09: 32
      Yes, they shob the anticyclone from Yakutia, then minus 12 will be shown in paradise
      Xia ..
      1. 0
        17 January 2021 09: 36
        then minus 12 paradise will show

        With an anticyclone from Yakutia at minus 12, they can already warm up. Only with sugrev you need to remember to dance, otherwise the hats may fall off your ears ...
        1. +3
          17 January 2021 11: 04
          Quote: The Truth
          Only when you get dry, you need to remember to dance, otherwise the hats can fall off your ears ..

          =======
          good I did not understand WHAT it will fall off: HATS or EARS? bully
          1. 0
            18 January 2021 08: 14
            WHAT will fall off: HATS or EARS?

            So the brave Estonian warriors can and hats and ears fall off. The main thing is to keep warm and not freeze from this ...
      2. 0
        17 January 2021 11: 44
        Quote: Mykhalych
        Yes, they shob the anticyclone from Yakutia, then minus 12 will be shown in paradise

        so he came, wrestling here after plus six minus twenty
    6. +4
      17 January 2021 09: 36
      Again, probably the Russians are to blame? The notorious General Frost? ..
      1. +4
        17 January 2021 13: 41
        He just warned potential suicides lol
    7. +7
      17 January 2021 09: 36
      The fact is that at the time of gathering, the air temperature in the Estonian town of Tapa drops to 12 degrees below zero with heavy snowfall and humidity over 90 percent.
      Well, of course, there never was and here again
      It is also indicated that the winter headgear of the Estonian army has a specific cut - the hats are "shallow" - they barely stick to the crown, which causes some inconvenience in strong gusts of wind.
      Excuse me here, "they were banging their eyes, sho kupuvali". Here or "force" until the ears freeze or order normal hats
      To rectify the situation, the command allowed the use of additional "accessories" - hoods, which were worn on the head under the caps.
      But here I did not understand at all, and the ears on these earflaps cannot be used by religion, or are they decorative there?
      1. nnm
        +6
        17 January 2021 09: 56
        Quote: svp67
        But here I did not understand at all, and the ears on these earflaps cannot be used by religion, or are they decorative there?

        Colleague, you are too fast! They'll figure it out by spring.
        1. 0
          17 January 2021 11: 04
          Quote: nnm
          Colleague, you are too fast! They'll figure it out by spring.

          And I like the Yudashkin hat more.
          1. +4
            17 January 2021 11: 07
            Quote: tihonmarine
            And I like the Yudashkin hat more.

            Actually it takes ... wink
        2. +1
          17 January 2021 11: 07
          Quote: nnm
          Colleague, you are too fast! They'll figure it out by spring.

          =======
          good There are no words! good drinks
        3. +2
          17 January 2021 15: 48
          Quote: nnm
          Colleague, you are too fast! They'll figure it out by spring.

          Estonians they are .... Estonians. I read here the other day on the Web, one Estonian was stuck at the airport in Thailand for three months due to viral quarantine, and when it was finally time to fly home, he, being at the airport, managed to miss the departing plane and again stayed indefinitely time lol
      2. +6
        17 January 2021 10: 03
        Quote: svp67
        And the ears on these earflaps are not allowed by religion, or are they decorative there?

        Decorative, of course. The Russians have normal earflaps, and they have hats like a skullcap, Europa-s
        1. 0
          17 January 2021 17: 03
          Quote: Egoza
          Decorative, of course. Normal earflaps are for Russians

          Especially the polar ones, the elongated ears of which can be wrapped around the neck.
      3. +5
        17 January 2021 10: 52
        Quote: svp67
        But here I did not understand at all, and the ears on these earflaps cannot be used by religion, or are they decorative there?

        Yes, normal comfortable hats, of course, if you sit in a trench for 10 hours, then not only your ears, but me too ... will fall off.
        1. +2
          17 January 2021 10: 57
          Quote: tihonmarine
          fall off.

          That's why their hats are FASHIONABLE
          1. +2
            17 January 2021 11: 27
            Quote: svp67
            That's why their hats are FASHIONABLE

            Yes, no, what is it fashionable, such hats were still sewn in the USSR. But the national one, which was worn even in the 90s, differs from modern ones.
            It looks like our hat, only without ears, but with cuffs that were tied at the back. Very interesting, it turns out, as it were, our hat is dressed back to front.
            1. 0
              17 January 2021 11: 46
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Yes, no, what is it fashionable, such hats were still sewn under the USSR.

              For whom?
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Very interesting, it turns out, as it were, our hat is dressed back to front.

              Are there any photos?
              1. 0
                17 January 2021 12: 52
                Quote: svp67
                Are there any photos?

                Not such is not available, now only you can see the old people in the village.
                But you can imagine our hat, but there are no ears.
      4. +1
        17 January 2021 11: 06
        Quote: svp67
        But here I did not understand at all, and the ears on these earflaps cannot be used by religion, or are they decorative there?

        ======
        The charter does not allow! lol
        1. +1
          17 January 2021 11: 20
          No. The head of the collection is a stupid person.
    8. +2
      17 January 2021 09: 40
      clowns .. no comments
      1. +1
        17 January 2021 12: 18
        what about clowns?
        the uniform is probably NATO
        although Estonians probably don't dress like that in civilian life
        the climate there is far from African
    9. +2
      17 January 2021 09: 47
      It is also indicated that the winter headgear of the Estonian army has a specific cut - the hats are "shallow" - they barely stick to the crown, which causes some inconvenience in strong gusts of wind.


      If the problem is only in the hats, then everyone should be afraid of them ... lol
    10. 0
      17 January 2021 09: 54
      Maybe that's why the NATO command
      The slow Estonians were given the order:
      "Don't throw a grenade at an Estonian soldier."
      (Otherwise, on the backswing, it will hit just)
    11. HAM
      0
      17 January 2021 09: 54
      And the lace panties ..... not otherwise Slava Zaitsev staged a sabotage ... but beautiful ...
    12. +4
      17 January 2021 10: 26
      laughing Let the hats be nailed to the stupid ones. laughing Then it will definitely not blow away. Or let them, like the Nazis during the Second World War, wrap themselves in scarves.

      They are their heirs.
    13. +8
      17 January 2021 10: 35
      Thanks to this news, we learned that there are airfields in Estonia ....
    14. +4
      17 January 2021 10: 38
      We had -20 yesterday and nothing. I went fishing in minus 27-30 to the Pskov lake. No problem. Let them temper together with the Englishmen.
    15. +6
      17 January 2021 10: 38
      The advanced army of NATO, it is they, in which case they will bring democracy? It is necessary to warn, here in the east of the Lena region it dropped to -38 at night, turkey poults were freezing ...........
    16. +1
      17 January 2021 10: 44
      When buying, the pharmacy clearly said that masks DO NOT work in the cold!
      1. 0
        17 January 2021 18: 29
        Of course they just ... freeze!)
        1. +1
          17 January 2021 18: 44
          The filter fibers of the mask are damp from breathing and freeze up ...
    17. +3
      17 January 2021 10: 47
      Quote: Deck
      Small problems in the army of a tiny neighboring country are a wonderful reason for the joy of the citizens of a great and powerful nuclear superpower. Undoubtedly.

      If these undersides had not been rushing about and telling how they would masterfully reflect the aggression of Russia, they would not have looked so comical and would not have earned the attention of "evil tongues". So everything is fine.
    18. +5
      17 January 2021 10: 48
      the air temperature in the Estonian town of Tapa drops to 12 degrees below zero
      And at this time, at 30 degrees of frost in the Urals, live firing takes place. L / s is healthy, cheerful and does not complain about the cold when performing the assigned tasks. This I mean that some people (NATO) are all going to fight with Russia, and on its territory.
      1. +1
        17 January 2021 11: 54
        Quote: rotmistr60
        And at this time, at 30 degrees of frost in the Urals, live firing takes place.

        It is so ... But frost-frost in different climates is felt differently.

        Case from practice - "Srochka", Arkhangelsk region, frost at -30, me and a colleague, originally from Perm, patrol in the unit. I look ... Lenya begins to "sell yeast" and ask to go to the barracks to warm up.
        I told him with a "trick": "Lyonya, you're a Siberian! How so?"to which he replied -"We have frost, dry, and no wind"...

        Actually, the article says about this:
        the air temperature in the Estonian town of Tapa drops to 12 degrees below zero with heavy snowfall and humidity over 90 percent

        They say - "No bad weather, wrong clothes". And this is the" jamb "of the Estonian Defense Ministry, which dressed the army in useless uniforms.
        But nevertheless, no matter what, the army is obliged to carry out the assigned tasks in any conditions.
    19. +2
      17 January 2021 11: 03
      Tie your scarves like the Fritzes at Stalingrad
    20. +1
      17 January 2021 11: 23
      They don't write anything about diapers frozen to the opam ... they are shy.
    21. +3
      17 January 2021 11: 27
      Comrades of the Baltic states, take care of the personnel laughing
      1. +1
        17 January 2021 12: 11
        Our hats are trump cards, no doubt about it. But pea jackets are crap. You stand on the parade ground at -15 with the wind and do not save nicherta, vests helped out, but they were not all.
        1. +4
          17 January 2021 16: 17
          Well, you probably remembered your service? in the late 80s, too, in the winter a pea jacket or an overcoat ... the pea jacket is all good, normal, only my neck practically did not protect ... and the current VKBO set is generally a thing, I personally like it! If you work in the cold, or go fishing, only it, well, with some of its additions, in the form of woolen thermal underwear ..
          1. +2
            17 January 2021 17: 13
            yes, service) in general, I also like the kit, especially the fleece, insulated pants and mittens. But some enemy of the people used a pea jacket and socks ...
        2. 0
          18 January 2021 14: 07
          that is, on the parade ground at -15 with the wind and they do not save nicherta, vests helped out, but they were not all.

          And the muffler? We were given out in the field ...
    22. +2
      17 January 2021 11: 51
      Hats on thin artificial fur quickly become icy during the incessant snowfall and do not save them from the cold and wind, which makes Estonian servicemen inconvenient when participating in combat training operations.

      The hats were probably created by some fashion designer - the soldiers of the Estonian army felt the consequences of "beauty")).
    23. +2
      17 January 2021 11: 53
      Frozen mavpochki laughing
    24. +2
      17 January 2021 12: 12
      They want to drive us into depression, but you just have to laugh from all these idiotas and laugh loudly so that the whole planet can be heard.  laughing
    25. 0
      17 January 2021 12: 24
      Hmm. Do the heirs of the green brothers somehow turn blue. Or do they turn blue? winked
    26. +4
      17 January 2021 13: 05
      Masks are especially effective in cold weather, condensation collects under them. And it's not a matter of hats, but a habit of comfort.
    27. +1
      17 January 2021 17: 41
      Only a helmet from a spacesuit will save Estonians in the cold laughing
    28. 0
      17 January 2021 19: 10
      Quote: Insurgent
      Quote: Deck
      I do not think that foreign citizens have the right to lecture Russians. Isn't it an insurgent

      Some not only need to be taught mind, but also physically educate to love the Motherland.
      And "foreigner" is just a wording from you, and then not for long.

      do not reflect on him))) I, as a CITIZEN of the Russian Federation, allow you sound criticism and even teachings on the case ... my word, his word)))))) in general, do not react
    29. 0
      17 January 2021 20: 33
      Quote: BISMARCK94
      yes, service) in general, I also like the kit, especially the fleece, insulated pants and mittens. But some enemy of the people used a pea jacket and socks ...

      Yes, in my time this was not given out in the MPR. ZabVO.RHB.
    30. 0
      17 January 2021 22: 02
      They have to sue Russia.
      It blows from there.
      We must demand compensation for suffering.
    31. 0
      17 January 2021 22: 23
      12 degrees, and they have already stuck?
      Do the kurats know exactly what climatic zone they are in? :)
    32. +1
      17 January 2021 23: 23
      Damn, and AWOL at below -30 degrees and without pants (just in case). True, there by bus and back 10 kilometers on foot and run. There is a comforter on the head - one eyes are open. Why did they cross to the other side .. And here only -12. Yes, just heat. And they complain ...
    33. 0
      18 January 2021 02: 51
      Today we have -30, at night it was -35 ... and we live at the latitude of Sochi ... only in the Far East.
      1. 0
        18 January 2021 14: 12
        only in the Far East.

        Yes, tonight in the suburbs it was 24. How are they going to fight?
        And yesterday, returning from the dacha near Tver, I broke a wheel.
        An hour of fucking on the asphalt on the side of the road at -22, seems to be alive, although not young already.
    34. 0
      18 January 2021 20: 52
      Chukhonsky brakes learned too late that winter had come ...
    35. 0
      18 January 2021 21: 58
      bought used Colambia jackets, they are both light and warm

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