"Not adapted to the conduct of hostilities": the US criticized the forward floating base of the Iranian Navy

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"Not adapted to the conduct of hostilities": the US criticized the forward floating base of the Iranian Navy

Iran's naval forces have received an advanced floating base designed to deploy helicopters and UAVs. However, this ship is not adapted for warfare, writes Military Watch.

The publication calls the ship a "helicopter carrier", and notes that despite its large size, the new Iranian ship "Makran" is a converted oil tanker, not adapted to combat operations, since it does not have the weapons, protection and speed inherent in helicopter carriers. The ship is said to be for overseas operations fleet... For this, helicopters and unmanned aerial vehicles are deployed on it.



Makran is an advanced floating base designed to support the operations of the navy in the far sea zone, primarily in the northern Indian Ocean, in the Bab el-Mandeb Strait and the Red Sea. It is capable of carrying six helicopters, speedboats, and naval special forces

- leads the publication of the message of the Iranian media.

According to Military Watch, "Makran" is suitable for supporting operations against armed terrorist groups such as the "Islamic State" and "Al-Nusra" (banned in Russia), but its capabilities are not enough for a military conflict with any state.

Meanwhile, the Iranian naval command has announced the entry into service of the fleet of similar ships "in the near future."
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    1. +2
      16 January 2021 11: 04
      Time will tell who was right ...
      1. +2
        16 January 2021 11: 16
        Quote: svp67
        Time will tell who was right ...

        hi So it is clear who is criticizing, masters of tanker battles. laughing
        1. +7
          16 January 2021 11: 27
          So, it looks like this is the floating base for the bay - it is if they start to get rude, from her
          six helicopters, speedboats, naval special forces
          they will very quickly block the passage of all tankers along the bay ... So the exceptional ones panic.
          And according to criticism - not to the manufacturers of LCS, Zamvolts and Henry Ford - absolutely inoperative - yapping something there lol
          1. 0
            16 January 2021 12: 31
            This crap (it cannot be called otherwise) is not for blocking the Bab el-Mandeb Strait. Even if it is flooded, it will not help - the width of the strait is 26 km, the depth is up to 185 m. And if you start military operations "six helicopters, speedboats, detachments of naval special forces" - her fate will be unenviable. So the characterization that the Americans gave her is quite fair. This "commando carrier" is not for war, but for the special operations that the "peaceful" IRGC conducts in abundance against neighboring Sunni countries.
            1. +2
              16 January 2021 12: 35
              Hello, can anyone tell me where I got to at all?

              1. -3
                16 January 2021 12: 37
                And what confuses you. To blame Americans - there will always be grateful readers.
            2. +5
              16 January 2021 12: 50
              Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
              her fate will be unenviable.

              The same "war with tankers", which was just fought in those waters, showed that it is not so easy to sink a modern tanker ... And it is still not clear what will really be on board these ships, so I do not exclude the presence of shock UAVs and RCC.
              1. -7
                16 January 2021 12: 58
                Sinking a tanker is not easy. It is easy to disable an assault helicopter carrier converted from a tanker.
                1. +1
                  16 January 2021 15: 25
                  Easy, very easy, yes, yes. It was very easy for Patriots to shoot down Iraqi missiles aimed at the US bases or the embassy in Baghdad, remember.
                  To begin with, the seizure of a tanker will be a purely peaceful mission, well, they have violated something there, this is how they seize all the tankers. By the way, they are not drowned, then on the floating base and the special forces with delivery vehicles.
                  But "to disable a converted tanker" is no easier than to sink a tanker. For the floating base will have to be drowned, it will not shoot. and the boats should be lowered with special equipment - that's all. And trying to attack a warship is a war. Why the United States is quietly writing, that's why they were afraid to respond to shelling
                  Aramco
                  Military bases
                  Embassies.
                  Quietly wiped the snot with a sleeve - and whimper, they are afraid of war with Iran
            3. 0
              16 January 2021 17: 46
              And if with a cover?
      2. +3
        16 January 2021 11: 21
        Quote: svp67
        Time will tell who was right ...

        I also think so, in vain the United States is bragging ... Iran is preparing and understands perfectly well that a strike is inevitable. Although Russia can help avoid the massacre. Who is the initiator of the anti-Iranian hysteria we all know ..
        1. +5
          16 January 2021 11: 43
          Quote: iturup
          Quote: svp67
          Time will tell who was right ...

          I also think so, in vain the United States is bragging ... Iran is preparing and understands perfectly well that a strike is inevitable. Although Russia can help avoid the massacre. Who is the initiator of the anti-Iranian hysteria we all know ..

          Everything is correct, you say, but, frankly, this is a clear "asymmetric response" from Iran, or, rather, an example of mobilization.
          Opportunities quickly, like in Saint-Nazaire, to build a couple of really warships of this class, Iran does not have.
          Therefore, a similar substitution appears. Still better than nothing.
          As for Russia's ability to influence the situation, I would not flatter myself. Opportunities, of course, are, but, IMHO, they are not great.
          1. -2
            16 January 2021 12: 04
            Quote: Dude
            but, frankly, this is a clear "asymmetric response" from Iran, or, rather, an example of mobilization.
            Iran does not have the ability to quickly, as in Saint-Nazaire, build a couple of really warships of this class.

            There is also the tactic of attacking numerous small vessels ... AUGs simply do not have time to record and control everything. hi
            Quote: Dude
            As for Russia's ability to influence the situation, I would not flatter myself. Opportunities, of course, are, but, IMHO, they are not great.

            Well, here, of course, I was dreaming a little, our lobby is very strong in certain circles, but we still resist and do not sell ourselves especially in military circles, etc. We sell Iran, Russia will have very big problems ..
            1. 0
              16 January 2021 12: 25
              There is also a tactic of attack by numerous small vessels ... AUGs simply do not have time to record and control everything .. hi

              AUG, as a goal - well, not a fig not a gift. If you want, take an interest in what losses were planned by our staff officers, during the USSR, during the attack of the US AUG. And this is with MRA, surface forces and loaves. The mosquito fleet against the AUG will simply be smeared with a thin film on the sea surface.
              Well, here, of course, I was dreaming a little, our lobby is very strong in certain circles, but we still resist and do not sell ourselves especially in military circles, etc. We sell Iran, Russia will have very big problems ..

              So far, from what I can see, "our" lobby can only take care of their pockets.
              Serbs surrendered.
              The Gaddafi did not intervene in the crisis.
              In Ukraine, they turned back after the arrival of Bruckhalter.
              Left wherever it was possible - first Europe, then the Baltics, then Cuba and Vietnam, should I continue?
              So on the "lobby"wassat I personally have little hope.
            2. +2
              16 January 2021 13: 13
              Quote: iturup
              There is also the tactic of attacking numerous small vessels ... AUGs simply do not have time to record and control everything.

              Sorry, but this is nonsense, from the word "complete". Van Rieper is not indicative - there were too many assumptions not in favor of AUG initially, and the program also failed
          2. +1
            16 January 2021 12: 43
            [quote = Dude] [quote = iturup] [quote = svp67] Time will tell who was right ... [/ quote]
            I also think so, in vain the United States is boasting .. Iran is preparing and perfectly understands that a blow is inevitable. Although Russia can help avoid the massacre. Who is the initiator of the anti-Iranian hysteria we all know .. [/ quote]
            Everything is correct, you say, but, frankly, this is a clear "asymmetric response" from Iran, or, rather, an example of mobilization.
            Opportunities quickly, like in Saint-Nazaire, to build a couple of really warships of this class, Iran does not have.
            Therefore, a similar substitution appears. Still better than nothing.
            Correctly, Iran has a strategy and based on the possibilities cheaply angry .... npm would like to learn.
            1. -2
              16 January 2021 12: 57
              I don’t think so. Even in a situation where a huge share of our industry has been destroyed, Iran is just right to learn from us, and not, thank God, we are from them. However, a little more "stability", which we have been cultivating for 20 years, and the situation may turn, quite the opposite.
              What we can learn from Iran is ideology. Not in the sense that building an Islamic state in our country (although, judging by the number of migrant workers, from our former southern and Central Asian provinces, hanging out in our cities, and not far before that), but in the sense that a normal state, without ideology, can not be .
      3. -9
        16 January 2021 11: 49
        Time has nothing to do with it. The Iranian leadership has clearly leaked and leaked. Apparently, there is nothing and nothing there. The main thing is not to be bored. Well, this is what the Americans need with their fleet imprisoned for their capabilities. The idea is not enough to slam. To put it into practice. These are not boring guys, these Persians.
        1. +1
          16 January 2021 11: 54
          Quote: Observer2014
          Well this is what the Americans need with their fleet sharpened under their capabilities

          The Iranians, apparently the second, in terms of the losses they inflicted on the Americans, it was in the ship composition, after the Japanese
          1. -9
            16 January 2021 11: 56
            Quote: svp67
            Quote: Observer2014
            Well this is what the Americans need with their fleet sharpened under their capabilities

            The Iranians, apparently the second, in terms of the losses they inflicted on the Americans, it was in the ship composition, after the Japanese

            laughing Yes 100% It is! Well, if not alcohol and cannabis for example.
            But that is, already from the abstract.
            1. 0
              16 January 2021 11: 58
              Quote: Observer2014
              Well, if it's not alcohol and cannabis for example

              as well as female mutual hatred ...
        2. +3
          16 January 2021 11: 54
          Footage of a rocket training exercise in the Kevir Desert, conducted by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' military space forces, is handling massive cruise missile and ballistic missile attacks, as well as massive kamikaze drone strikes.



          1. -15
            16 January 2021 12: 19
            Quote: OrangeBigg
            Footage of a rocket training exercise in the Kevir Desert, conducted by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' military space forces, is handling massive cruise missile and ballistic missile attacks, as well as massive kamikaze drone strikes.



            The jerboas are all in shock. There, there I ran ... laughing wassat
            1. +1
              16 January 2021 12: 35
              Have you seen the squirrels before, now the jerboas?
              1. -4
                19 January 2021 22: 34
                negative
                Quote: OrangeBigg
                Before you saw squirrels, now are you already jerboas?

                Do you have anything besides squirrels? Do you know anything at all? I am silent about the military theme. I'm talking about anything?
                1. -5
                  19 January 2021 22: 51
                  Show you the American transport at the supertanker base?
      4. +3
        16 January 2021 12: 26
        “Necessity for inventions is cunning!” Under sanctions, without the necessary skills and technologies, the Persians created a “drone carrier” that suits them at the moment. Over time, they will create something better. ..
        1. +6
          16 January 2021 12: 40
          Well, not so bad Iran. For some reason, everyone laughs at him.

          Video footage of one of the most powerful American submarines with Ohio-class guided missiles, which is on watch in the Persian Gulf, is circulating on social media, filmed from an Iranian helicopter. The video shows the USS Georgia submarine moving at periscope depth, which, after being discovered by the Iranians, left the area of ​​operations. The Drive writes about the maneuvers of American combat submarines and surface ships off the Iranian coast.

          https://topcor.ru/18207-iran-raskryl-v-persidskom-zalive-odnu-iz-samyh-moschnyh-podlodok-vms-ssha.html
    2. +11
      16 January 2021 11: 09
      Iranian bargeA looks of course credible lol
      But you might think that American aircraft carriers are being used differently. smile
      They live in memories of victories over the Japanese, but in fact they are currently chasing the natives and it doesn't matter whether they have a state there or a set of tribes, there is still nothing to answer. But Eun already makes cowboys tremble in knees :)
    3. +1
      16 January 2021 11: 10
      laughing And you try. Any kind of criticism.
    4. 0
      16 January 2021 11: 12
      Where are they going to sail?
    5. +11
      16 January 2021 11: 12
      The question is what the Iranians want from the ship.
      If you control your territorial waters and capture violator ships by helicopter landing, then the ship is normally cheap, cheerful, effective.
      Of course, the Americans do not like that someone controls their waters, especially in the Persian Gulf.
      1. +1
        16 January 2021 11: 50
        Terrvody - a couple of tens of kilometers from the coast.
        For this, such a Ship is not needed.
        The Iranians themselves say that it is for the far zone.
        The question is against whom.
        Against an enemy with a minimum navy and air force, he will not last long, until the first oncoming corvette, and for a suicide ship, it is expensive.
        What it is good for is to support special operations in peacetime.
        1. +4
          16 January 2021 11: 57
          And now look at the map and the coast of Iran and you will understand that these couple of tens of kilometers from the coast mean control in the Persian and Omani gulfs and completely block the Strait of Hormuz.
          1. -1
            16 January 2021 12: 15
            But why such a large ship for this?
            Tervody - a narrow strip, a network of cheap helipads, including those that already exist, in teraodes is much more efficient than a large and expensive vulnerable ship in operation.
        2. +4
          16 January 2021 12: 11
          to the first oncoming corvette

          Usually, helicopter carriers, like aircraft carriers, do not go without escort ships. It is unlikely that there will be an exception.
    6. +3
      16 January 2021 11: 16
      "According to Military Watch, "Makran" is suitable for supporting operations against armed terrorist groups"

      Well, so America is a terrorist country, and its army is an armed terrorist formation.
      Ask who khosh, who encountered her, everyone will confirm ...
    7. +2
      16 January 2021 11: 21
      Helping the valiant Houthis will do!
      1. -6
        16 January 2021 12: 35
        It is unlikely that the coalition will pat an Iranian warship in Yemeni waters.
        1. 0
          16 January 2021 13: 13
          It’s not in vain that an Israeli submarine is prowling, even if it’s not heard that it has returned to the base in Israel. Maybe for the soul of this base, Iran has some kind of a passage yard at the expense of secrecy.
    8. +10
      16 January 2021 11: 27
      ... because it does not have the weapons, protection and speed inherent in helicopter carriers.

      The key here is price and timing. Inexpensive and fast. Armament, if desired, can be crammed into this case to the eyeballs, but ... then the cost will skyrocket. Protection? And what kind of protection do modern cardboard, oh sorry, aluminum warships have? These are not battleships ... Large displacement is the main defense of this vessel. And the speed in the bay is not that important. Iranian floating bases will not go around the world. This palliative of the Iranian Navy is exclusively for the Persian and Oman Gulfs.
      The Americans are well aware of this too. But the fact that someone else besides them can go to sea and defend their interests there annoys them very much ...
      1. +1
        16 January 2021 11: 36
        Quote: Doccor18
        Protection? And what kind of protection do modern cardboard, oh sorry, aluminum warships have? These are not battleships ...

        ... true on modern ships who have the desire and capabilities of missile defense are put.
        It's all the same far from the battleships, but still.
    9. 0
      16 January 2021 11: 38
      Topic: On Socotra, comrades from Israel are planning an intelligence base, just suitable for the Iranians to see how many there are on Socotra T 34 left in the ground.
    10. +5
      16 January 2021 11: 46
      Mobilization aircraft carrier. Such would not hurt Russia in the Far North and the Far East, both for civilian use and for military needs.
      1. +1
        16 January 2021 12: 09
        In our northern regions, ice-class ships are needed ... the equipment is expensive in itself, the maintenance costs are not very small, and there are probably no extra ships.
        Make new ones ???
        1. +2
          16 January 2021 12: 43
          Re-equipment, with overhaul of an ice-class vessel, is clearly cheaper than building "from scratch" if you steal in moderation.
    11. 0
      16 January 2021 11: 56
      Not adapted to the conduct of hostilities ": the United States criticized the advanced floating base of the Iranian Navy
      But it’s necessary to start, the training of specialists is not as fast as the construction.
    12. +1
      16 January 2021 12: 08
      So this trough is not meant for a full-scale war.
      There is also clearly written anti-terrorist and pirate actions. For such a task, a strong air defense is not needed.
      The Iranians are doing it right, a cheap ship with combat and attack helicopters with marines. And cheap and cheerful.
    13. +4
      16 January 2021 13: 18
      laughing Come on, how will he fight the crooked Zumvolt. laughing
    14. +4
      16 January 2021 13: 25
      If the US scolds, then something in Iran is right. It would be much worse if they praised ...
    15. +1
      16 January 2021 13: 28
      According to Military Watch, "Makran" is suitable for supporting operations against armed terrorist groups such as the "Islamic State" and "Al-Nusra" (banned in Russia), but its capabilities are not enough for a military conflict with any state.

      This, I think, is not entirely true. Against the Navy of some Iraq or similar, the capabilities of this device will be quite in place
      1. +1
        16 January 2021 14: 18
        In Iraq, by American efforts, the Shiites are now in power. And to shed blood for the sheikhs? This is unlikely ... Lamborghini, camel racing, falconry. They also respect Geneva very much. There, even the embankment overlooking the fountain is called "Arab". In the early 80s, I remembered that there is a belly in a suit and an apache shirt, on the right shoulder Betakam holds 10 kg with his hand, behind him, in single file, four figures from crown to toes in black ...
    16. +4
      16 January 2021 14: 05
      If someone would have taught (or at least read) the history of the fleet, they would not have been surprised by the appearance of ersatz aircraft carriers (helicopter carriers). At the beginning of WWII, the British realized that aviation was the most formidable weapon of the PLO. We must, of course, agree that the submarines of that era were diving, in contrast to modern nuclear submarines, which are capable of constantly being at depth. BUT, the technology is not asleep, because helicopters with adequate means of detection and destruction may well constitute a threat to modern submarines. So at the beginning of WWII, escort aircraft carriers began to appear, rebuilt in a short time from tankers, dry cargo ships, passenger liners, having a flight deck, a few bullets for defense and a dozen aircraft. For the specific needs of the PLO, this was quite enough! And, by the way, a large number of such "Ertsans" increased the losses of German submarines. And even the Americans scolded several dozen of these pocket aircraft carriers.
      Nothing now prevents the installation of a flight deck, as the Iranians did, on any suitable vessel, with minor alterations to install refueling equipment, equip a kind of ammunition storage, install the necessary radar equipment and get it in a short time for little money (compared to the cost of a full-fledged aircraft carrier or helicopter carrier ) an aircraft-carrying ship for performing ASW missions or special operations.
      The British, by the way, also had such a vessel, "Atlantic Conveyor", but there they were retrofitted under a VTOL aircraft, which required a special deck made of heat-resistant steel.

      So, guys, there is no need to laugh at the Iranians, they went quite an adequate way in achieving limited goals. Yes, such ships are less combat-resistant than ships of special construction, but they also cost a penny, and they can bring a lot of benefits if used correctly hi
    17. +3
      16 January 2021 14: 15
      "Not adapted to the conduct of hostilities": the US criticized the forward floating base of the Iranian Navy

      Criticism is verbiage in someone's interests. Criticism is alive until the cock pecks. Let the United States be reminded how:
      - 6 Iranian boats blocked their aircraft carrier in their gulf.
      - how they shot down 3 American "super UAVs".
      - like Iran, openly put its "device" on the United States with Israel.
      Who else is so bravely opposing the United States at this time? !
      Even Russia and China are sagging.
      That's why Iran is appealing to me!
    18. +2
      16 January 2021 14: 21
      This tanker is for the post-caliptical Waterworld. I planted "smokers" on the seas, on the waves ...
    19. 0
      16 January 2021 14: 46
      Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
      Sinking a tanker is not easy. It is easy to disable an assault helicopter carrier converted from a tanker.

      They don't need to sink it. If set on fire, it will fail. For example, the destroyer Sheffield was not sunk, but actually set on fire.
      1. +1
        16 January 2021 16: 23
        If set on fire, it will fail. For example, the destroyer Sheffield was not sunk, but in fact set on fire.

        An aluminum-magnesium alloy was used in the construction of Sheffield's superstructures (by the way, it still sank), approximately identical to our AMg-6. This alloy burns and melts at high temperatures ... this is one of the reasons why the British destroyer burned so well. At the Pacific Fleet, for the same reason, the MRK "Monsoon" was killed: he was hit by a target rocket, which he could not shoot down, although he fired at it from a 57-mm cannon to the very end. A working solid propellant engine ignited the superstructure, the ship burned down and sank, many sailors died. According to the recollections of survivors: "The ship burned, melting like plasticine." A sea tanker is built of steel. And here we must take into account that it is already not a tanker - the cargo tanks of this ship are probably empty, steamed and washed out - there is simply nothing to burn there. Aviation fuel is most likely stored below the waterline in double bottom tanks; the fuel for the main and auxiliary engines is stored in double-bottom tanks, this is 100%, and the IFO 380 fuel oil must also be set on fire ... Well, an anti-ship missile will get into its superstructure, well, its superstructure will partially collapse and burn out ... ? Control posts, command posts and communication facilities are duplicated. Even an ordinary cargo ship has all this, but here the ship was specially re-equipped for the war ... During the "tanker war" there were cases when anti-ship missiles hit tankers, and this did not lead to their death - an enviable combat stability, you don't find ? Burning a ship like this is difficult, but possible. But it is far from a fact that it will lose its buoyancy and / or stability and sink ... The Mk.48 torpedo may become a more effective and cheaper tool. The question is how many ...
        1. +1
          16 January 2021 19: 42
          Quote: Brylevsky
          If set on fire, it will fail. For example, the destroyer Sheffield was not sunk, but in fact set on fire.

          An aluminum-magnesium alloy was used in the construction of Sheffield's superstructures (by the way, it still sank), approximately identical to our AMg-6. This alloy burns and melts at high temperatures ... this is one of the reasons why the British destroyer burned so well. At the Pacific Fleet, for the same reason, the MRK "Monsoon" was killed: he was hit by a target rocket, which he could not shoot down, although he fired at it from a 57-mm cannon to the very end. A working solid propellant engine ignited the superstructure, the ship burned down and sank, many sailors died. According to the recollections of survivors: "The ship burned, melting like plasticine." A sea tanker is built of steel. And here we must take into account that it is already not a tanker - the cargo tanks of this ship are probably empty, steamed and washed out - there is simply nothing to burn there. Aviation fuel is most likely stored below the waterline in double bottom tanks; the fuel for the main and auxiliary engines is stored in double-bottom tanks, this is 100%, and the IFO 380 fuel oil must also be set on fire ... Well, an anti-ship missile will get into its superstructure, well, its superstructure will partially collapse and burn out ... ? Control posts, command posts and communication facilities are duplicated. Even an ordinary cargo ship has all this, but here the ship was specially re-equipped for the war ... During the "tanker war" there were cases when anti-ship missiles hit tankers, and this did not lead to their death - an enviable combat stability, you don't find ? Burning a ship like this is difficult, but possible. But it is far from a fact that it will lose its buoyancy and / or stability and sink ... The Mk.48 torpedo may become a more effective and cheaper tool. The question is how many ...

          The container ship Atlantic Conveyor is not made of aluminum. Two missiles disabled it.
          I agree that torpedoes on larger ships are more practical.
    20. +4
      16 January 2021 15: 24
      Who would say that a tanker turns out to be a bad forward floating base ...


      American counterparts Expeditionary Transfer Dock (ESD). 4 built, 4 more are planned. VLCC tankers of the "Alaska" type with a deadweight of 185 thousand tons were taken as a basis
      Read more here:
      https://topwar.ru/136796-plavuchaya-baza-amerikanskoy-ekspansii.html
      https://wikichi.ru/wiki/Expeditionary_Transfer_Dock
    21. 0
      16 January 2021 19: 07
      It's just a supply base ... Why should she fight. belay
    22. 0
      16 January 2021 19: 08
      "However, this ship is not adapted for warfare, writes Military Watch."
      Why?
      And the first aircraft carriers were built from what?
      Quite a budgetary and workable version of an asymmetric answer to Chamberlain.
      For this type of ship, the internal volume of the compartments is important.
      The ship has huge reserves of internal volumes.
      Constructors will dim and give instructions on alignment and reinforcement in the right places of the structure.
    23. +1
      16 January 2021 22: 04
      Order from Military Watch?
      How is the new Iranian ship "Makran" converted oil tanker different from the American converted tanker, so to speak, the USS Hershel "Woody" Williams (ESB-4) Naval Expeditionary Base?
      Can compare
    24. 0
      17 January 2021 09: 05
      this is definitely unparalleled fellow one hundred poods. It's kind of funny, but in the UAV fleet and the range of their use, the Persians are clearly ahead of us ... A tanker at what speed can walk (sail or hover) ???
      1. 0
        17 January 2021 10: 49
        How fast can a tanker walk (sail or hover) ???

        12,5 - 15,5 knots is their normal speed. Faster is not economically viable.
    25. 0
      17 January 2021 17: 24
      Quote: smart fellow
      to the first oncoming corvette

      Usually, helicopter carriers, like aircraft carriers, do not go without escort ships. It is unlikely that there will be an exception.

      What if it's a bogus target that looks like a priority? While she is being "hammered", the rest of the forces hit the attackers. Win a few minutes (perhaps tens of minutes) - and the game is worth the candle!
    26. +2
      17 January 2021 19: 28
      Well, the Iranians are doing what they can do ... That's just the performance characteristics except for 6 vetalets and boats, the article was not, for some reason ...
    27. 0
      25 July 2021 20: 07
      This is a "steamer" - an economy class aircraft carrier!
      And do not "curse" so contemptuously, such improvisations and the British did not disdain.
      Their auxiliary aircraft carrier (what would not be called "Argus"?) During the Falklands War in peaceful life was a container ship.

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