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Russian T-90M tanks combined into a single network during exercises

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Russian T-90M tanks combined into a single network during exercises

Russian Tanks The T-90M was combined into a single network during the exercise. The Ministry of Defense tested the T-90M Proryv tanks for their ability to operate in a single information space as part of a network-centric combat training operation. Reported by RIA News with reference to a source familiar with the situation.


According to the source, the T-90M tanks entering the troops since 2020 are equipped with the equipment of a unified tactical level control system (ESU TZ), which makes it possible to exchange data in real time not only among themselves, but also to receive information from various intelligence systems, systems observation and guidance, automatic control systems.

The ability of the new T-90M tanks, equipped with ESU TZ equipment, to exchange data online with each other and with other combat units was tested in combat training conditions, including in an environment of electronic interference

- leads news source word agency.

The results of the tests in the Ministry of Defense were called successful, confirming the possibility of conducting network-centric combat operations due to a unified tactical level control system (ESU TZ)

The T-90М tank was developed as part of the Breakthrough-3 development work and is a deep modernization of the T-90 with increased combat and operational characteristics.

The T-90M has a new turret module with a 125-mm cannon of increased survivability and accuracy. The tower is equipped with a remote-controlled machine-gun mount of 12,7 mm caliber. In addition, the new tank is equipped with a highly automated digital fire control system "Kalina", which provides search, recognition, auto-tracking and destruction of targets.
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  1. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 16 January 2021 06: 52
    -17%
    In, now everyone will drive for vodka together.
    1. dauria
      dauria 16 January 2021 07: 06
      +14
      everyone will drive for vodka together.

      The "BB" will be driven by one, the youngest as always. But now he will know where the ambush is on the way back. wink
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 16 January 2021 07: 09
        -2
        Quote: dauria
        The "BB" will be driven by one, the youngest as always. But now he will know where the ambush is on the way back.

        Remember how the T-90 jumped over the crossing? I'll tell you a secret, they rushed for vodka.
        1. dauria
          dauria 16 January 2021 07: 15
          +11
          I'll tell you a secret, they rushed for vodka.

          Huh. If I tell you, the devil will believe. Mi-2 in Dauria "sat down" in front of the wine and vodka general store to buy. The place is empty, no poles, no wires. Studied in advance a hundred times. laughing There are a couple of kilometers to the airfield. Do not go on foot. And the flights were planned.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 16 January 2021 07: 44
            +1
            Quote: dauria
            If I tell you, the devil will believe. Mi-2 in Dauria "sat down" in front of the wine and vodka general store to buy

            A friend in Chechnya was based at a cognac factory. They were so tired of cognac that they exchanged two bottles of horse meat for one bottle of vodka.
            1. nnm
              nnm 16 January 2021 08: 53
              +9
              This is because the nearest normal vodka was only in Mozdok or was brought from vacation.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 16 January 2021 09: 00
                +1
                Quote: nnm
                only in Mozdok or from vacation brought.

                Yeah, as well as at the Grozny distillery.
              2. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek 16 January 2021 10: 06
                +2
                In Ossetia, and now vodka is good and without excise tax ... ... I recently bought a couple of boxes at 50 rubles / bottle.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 16 January 2021 17: 26
                  0
                  Quote: Zaurbek
                  recently bought a couple of boxes at 50 r / bottle.

                  And we have one hundred rubles ...
            2. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 16 January 2021 17: 25
              -7
              Strange, any cognac, even lousy one, is better than vodka. Vodka is the worst of all spirits.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 16 January 2021 17: 28
                +1
                Quote: Sergej1972
                Strange, any cognac, even lousy one, is better than vodka.

                Yes, I got their brandy.
              2. kytx
                kytx 17 January 2021 10: 57
                +1
                this controversial statement
                I prefer vodka
                from brandy severe hangover and hard to drink
                I tried a lot of cognacs in very expensive ones
                and "cheap cognac" is generally rubbish worse than alcohol
                1. Sergej1972
                  Sergej1972 17 January 2021 19: 32
                  0
                  Maybe it's the amount of drink?
                  1. Dkuznecov
                    Dkuznecov 17 January 2021 23: 34
                    -1
                    Impurities. They're making a hangover.
                    Dozens and hundreds of times.
                    1. Sergej1972
                      Sergej1972 18 January 2021 09: 23
                      0
                      I do not know. My body tolerates cognac or whiskey, or chacha, or homemade Calvados much easier than vodka. Although now, to be honest, the desire to drink any strong alcohol has practically disappeared. Rarely and in small quantities, on holidays and (or) when we communicate with friends, 200-250 grams, no more.) There is no benefit from it.
                  2. kytx
                    kytx 18 January 2021 04: 22
                    0
                    I will be responsible for quantity and quality too :)
                    i drink a lot
                    if the swill is normal I don't get sick at all
                    cognac (correct) hard to drink
                    drunkenness from them is good
                    but then horror - the pressure jumps
                    I recommend eating a 15 year old diplomat (for example) and see what will happen in the morning
          2. Alexga
            Alexga 16 January 2021 09: 47
            +5
            There was a time when we drove a tank to the store in Khada-Bulak. This is in 1984. The store was not far from the tankodrome.
            1. dauria
              dauria 16 January 2021 10: 15
              +3
              we went to Khada-Bulak to the store on a tank

              Sash, I am glad to meet the "countryman", honestly. At least someone knows these naked frozen steppes. And the helicopter squadron there - two five-story buildings on a bare hill without trees and a river ... You couldn't think of a worse place.
              1. Alexga
                Alexga 16 January 2021 12: 34
                +3
                Greetings! To be honest, these frozen steppes remain in my memory forever. It's sad that with the departure of the military from those parts, life there almost stopped. There are no traces of the 36 army, the towns are killed.
                1. dauria
                  dauria 16 January 2021 13: 20
                  +3
                  I've been there since 84. And in December 87th "warming" with the Chinese. We got up and flew to Sakhalin. Cows licking the boxcars in the winter at the station. Snow from September to May. One train Chita-Zabaikalsk. In the morning there, in the evening to Chita. They went to the station for lemonade. Kharanor coal in a stove ... Here it is, dear. Look, remember.
                  1. Alexga
                    Alexga 16 January 2021 13: 30
                    +1
                    Yeah! As it was said: "God created Sochi, devil Mogochu, but what 'devil' did Bilituy come up with?"
                    1. dauria
                      dauria 16 January 2021 13: 40
                      +2
                      wink What, education does not allow? Not "devil" there, in this saying, but ....
                      And we also had "Crimean latitude, but Karymskaya longitude"
                      1. Alexga
                        Alexga 16 January 2021 14: 05
                        +2
                        Yes, I was bombarded here with Warnings and, so I have to spin, Russian is a rich language, and who knows, he will understand correctly.
        2. Observer2014
          Observer2014 16 January 2021 07: 19
          +7
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          Quote: dauria
          The "BB" will be driven by one, the youngest as always. But now he will know where the ambush is on the way back.

          Remember how the T-90 jumped over the crossing? I'll tell you a secret, they rushed for vodka.

          Why are you all vodka and vodka ...
          1. dauria
            dauria 16 January 2021 08: 49
            +6
            Why are you all vodka and vodka ...


            What do you mean ... Not only her, darling. More talk about women. This is when without vodka. And with vodka - only about the service. How we drove, swam, flew and shot. Well this is the native Soviet army. Or was it different for you?
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 16 January 2021 08: 54
              0
              As I recall, I was seven years old ... A soldier from the construction battalion sent me for a bottle. I refused: "They won't give me!"
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 16 January 2021 08: 52
        +1
        it is bad that we do not build 10 aircraft carriers per 100.
        That would be a network of intrinsic 10 units of AB of 70 aircraft - the entire Pacific Ocean was closed.
        and why?
        for the 17th time I am happy -MO does what it needs (not to critics) and does not build AB
    2. Comrade I
      Comrade I 16 January 2021 13: 01
      +3
      Do you know what sometimes infuriates VO? One will write some nonsense, and below him dozens of comments in response, so you get tired of flipping. (so I answered too xD)
  2. lopvlad
    lopvlad 16 January 2021 06: 53
    +5
    Network-centric warfare is the future.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 16 January 2021 07: 17
      +2
      Quote: lopvlad
      Network-centric warfare is the future.

      Probably and possibly yes , but under the condition that the enemy does not have effective electronic warfare means, or deprives him of the opportunity to use them (their destruction).
      1. VO3A
        VO3A 16 January 2021 23: 54
        -1
        I want to upset you! In an offensive, electronic warfare is difficult to use, electronic warfare systems are detected and destroyed too ... There are options when information sensors are used that are resistant to the effects of electronic warfare systems, for example, stationary video cameras that transmit a signal via cable or a closed channel ... Guidance systems for precision ammunition can be used simplified channels without the use of JPS and radar illumination systems. And the laser illumination is not so vulnerable ... In the end, you can use an area strike with artillery systems and MLRS ...
        1. svp67
          svp67 17 January 2021 09: 33
          -1
          Quote: VO3A
          On the offensive, electronic warfare is difficult to apply

          Oh ...
          Quote: VO3A
          fixed video cameras transmitting signal via cable or closed channel ...

          Well, I also agree on the cable, and that if this cable is special, protecting from EMP, and the "closed channel" is also susceptible to suppression, it simply allows the transmission of information in a certain hidden way, using encryption
          Quote: VO3A
          And the laser light is not that vulnerable ...

          Yes? Well, try to apply it in heavy rain, fog, or on an object covered with aerosol ...
    2. VO3A
      VO3A 16 January 2021 14: 18
      0
      Where did you see network-centric systems?
      Combat Information Systems make it possible to remotely detect the enemy using technical systems (including UAVs, but not only) in real time, provide target designation in real time by exchanging information with the strike assets included in this system in real time, and provide destruction of the enemy in real time within the radius of destruction of strike weapons! This is for dummies! There are no such systems in the Russian Army, there is not even a concept of creation and development! There is an ACCU, but this is for command and control, and not in real time! And where is the ESU TZ "Constellation-M", personally adopted by Gerasimov? In the trash heap, out of order !!! And that is why there are no such systems, if everything for their creation is UNCERTAINABLE !!!
  3. Thrifty
    Thrifty 16 January 2021 06: 56
    -3
    What the forum was shouted about for three hundred years in a row, only now they tried to put it into practice! Glory to heaven, though they did not give out a single network-centric system as something that has no analogues in the world! Such a system is all over the world yesterday! And we have only reached this point today as part of a military experiment!
    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 January 2021 07: 10
      -1
      Quote: Thrifty
      What the forum was shouted about for three hundred years in a row, only now they tried to put it into practice!

      Still would. "Shouting" is not to roll bags. The main thing is that nothing needs to be done and no responsibility.
      Praise be to the Almighty that such scoundrels are mostly on the forums and sit. However, this is the only thing they are capable of. Just scream.
      Oral troops.
      1. strelokmira
        strelokmira 16 January 2021 07: 14
        -14%
        Just scream.
        Oral troops.

        About the new name for the forum Urashek drove up laughing
        1. lucul
          lucul 16 January 2021 12: 18
          0
          About the new name for the forum Urashek drove up

          Well, it's not all the same for all the scammers to frolic)))
      2. Thrifty
        Thrifty 16 January 2021 07: 25
        -7
        Sidoramnepofigovich - because of people like you, the country is always in chase catching up to the west, because they have long understood that technology on the battlefield should act as a single whole organism, speaking back! And by the way, what are you capable of besides criticizing? Maybe they did something in life that is important for our country and its defense, what is there to be proud of? Enlighten, pzhalsta, otherwise you are the same forum gorlopanishka and critic, who knows how to interpret
        can do it!
        1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 January 2021 07: 42
          +2
          Quote: Thrifty
          Maybe they did something important in life for our country and its defense, what is there to be proud of?

          Tell me, why are you not a designer, not a responsible leader, not a commander? Why is it that all you can do is exclamation abundantly with many mistakes? What does it give you?
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 16 January 2021 07: 58
            -5
            Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Tell me, why are you not a designer, not a responsible leader, not a commander?

            Don't you think there are people who don't care about command positions? I didn’t care about my career, fought off the brigade leadership with my hands and feet.
            1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 January 2021 08: 27
              +7
              Don't you think there are people who don't care about command positions? I didn’t care about my career, fought off the brigade leadership with my hands and feet.

              It means there is nothing to pretend to be highly competent specialists. If you want to be more important, go to the mirror.
              Ubi nil vales, ibi nil velis.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 16 January 2021 08: 33
                -11%
                Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                It means there is nothing to pretend to be highly competent specialists. If you want to be more important, go to the mirror.

                Hehe ... I used one organ to rotate people like you ...
                1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 January 2021 08: 35
                  +3
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  Hehe ... I used one organ to rotate people like you ...

                  Standing in front of the mirror, obviously hehe!
                  Quite in the spirit of European values.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 16 January 2021 08: 36
                    -7
                    Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                    Quite in the spirit of European values.

                    You shove your Europe into your opu.
                    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                      Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 January 2021 08: 51
                      +6
                      So they have sunk to overt rudeness. It's amazing how easily people lose their temper.
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 16 January 2021 17: 34
                        +1
                        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                        So they have sunk to overt rudeness. It's amazing how easily people lose their temper.

                        Your honor, sir, beloved ... You are welcome, we want respect ... Wouldn't you go where further?
          2. Thrifty
            Thrifty 16 January 2021 08: 14
            -4
            Sidor Amnepodestovich - first of all, and thank God, how do you know what I did while working in the USSR? And, by mistakes, does grammar make more sense to you as an information component? By the way, I led a team of more than 120 people, before the 2007 crisis, before the bankruptcy of the head office and the closure of the company, so the team constantly received various incentive options from the management and owners, including financial ones, those people who never know me about I will not be told badly, life has taught me to value the opinion of an opponent. My grammar does not bother you much, write comments in essence, and you will be happy. ..
            1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 January 2021 08: 33
              +1
              Did your work have anything to do with military technology?
              1. lucul
                lucul 16 January 2021 12: 20
                -1
                Did your work have anything to do with military technology?

                Yes, he is a vsepalschik with experience.)))
              2. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 16 January 2021 17: 41
                0
                Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Did your work have anything to do with military technology?

                I was related to military technology. Available?
                1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 January 2021 17: 45
                  +2
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  I was related to military technology. Available?

                  Chasing Tajiks at a construction site is not military technology, my blue friend.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 16 January 2021 17: 48
                    0
                    Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                    Chasing Tajiks at a construction site is not military technology, my blue friend.

                    You're screwing ...
        2. lucul
          lucul 16 January 2021 12: 17
          0
          because there they have long understood that technology on the battlefield must act as a single whole organism, speaking back!

          And that is why it lags behind Russia in many respects? ))))
          1. VO3A
            VO3A 16 January 2021 18: 28
            +1
            Yes, there is no battlefield long ago ! This is only with the partisans and in the RA! There is a positional combat area and tanks do not fight there, they can help to defend ... Tanks are no longer the main striking force, they are coming from behind. in the third echelon, to clean up the remaining pockets of resistance ... When everyone understands this, and most importantly in the leadership and the General Staff of the Russian army ...
      3. Observer2014
        Observer2014 16 January 2021 07: 42
        -7
        Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
        Quote: Thrifty
        What the forum was shouted about for three hundred years in a row, only now they tried to put it into practice!

        Still would. "Shouting" is not to roll bags. The main thing is that nothing needs to be done and no responsibility.
        Praise be to the Almighty that such scoundrels are mostly on the forums and sit. However, this is the only thing they are capable of. Just scream.
        Oral troops.

        Well, you will show, as always, your extra organs to everyone. Are you in a combat post? Track and point out that, with the number of organs in normal people, everything is fine. So here. T-90 suddenly turned into an instrument of network-centric (God forgive me) war. Zhigul also became such a long time ago when the first driver climbed into it with a mobile phone. Any technique can be network-centric if that.
        1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 January 2021 07: 47
          +2
          Quote: Observer2014
          Well, you will show, as always, your extra organs to everyone. Are you in a combat post? Track and point out that, with the number of organs in normal people, everything is fine.

          I'm not an expert. Moreover, not an active specialist. Therefore, I have no reason to issue any characteristics.
          Are you military? What is your position? That's just it. You have only the information that is freely available. How do you know what is really going on in the bowels of the Ministry of Defense? Are you using the energy of Sirius?
          All forum battles are just battles of the forum. Here they do not make decisions, but spend time, who how. I, for one, are almost always quite fun.
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 16 January 2021 08: 03
            -7
            Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
            Quote: Observer2014
            Well, you will show, as always, your extra organs to everyone. Are you in a combat post? Track and point out that, with the number of organs in normal people, everything is fine.

            I'm not an expert. Moreover, not an active specialist. Therefore, I have no reason to issue any characteristics.
            Are you military? What is your position? That's just it. You have only the information that is freely available. How do you know what is really going on in the bowels of the Ministry of Defense? Are you using the energy of Sirius?
            All forum battles are just battles of the forum. Here they do not make decisions, but spend time, who how. I, for one, are almost always quite fun.
            I only use my personal qualities. Honed over the years - Want to be a Level 80 Vangovator instead of pimping on extra organs? Study thoroughly all military equipment, plus sometimes try to think like your subject of analysis. Suddenly, by the age of fifty, what happens wink
            You know. There is no big mind in opening a site with "smart" speeches. And mowing like a smart one. Reprinting from there. Presenting pearls as their own. Anyone can do it But on a site with a military theme No. Here knowledge is needed, but you don't have it, from the word in general.
            1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 January 2021 08: 31
              +2
              Quote: Observer2014
              I only use my personal qualities. Honed over the years.

              "Whatever person is a great expert.
              And without any profanity.
              There are few words, only heels.
              But what combinations are there! "
              A.A. Ivanov
              1. Observer2014
                Observer2014 16 January 2021 08: 38
                -6
                Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                Quote: Observer2014
                I only use my personal qualities. Honed over the years.

                "Whatever person is a great expert.
                And without any profanity.
                There are few words, only heels.
                But what combinations are there! "
                A.A. Ivanov

                Because he is a personality, not a gray mediocrity. wink
                1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 January 2021 08: 56
                  0
                  Quote: Observer2014
                  Because he is a personality, not a gray mediocrity.

                  How many times a day do you do this? Self-praise.
                  In his youth, must have been more?
                  1. Observer2014
                    Observer2014 16 January 2021 09: 00
                    -3
                    On weekends, continuously.
                    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                      Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 January 2021 09: 08
                      -1
                      Quote: Observer2014
                      On weekends, continuously.

                      Amen.
                      Thanks for the dialogue. All the best!
                      1. Observer2014
                        Observer2014 16 January 2021 09: 16
                        -6
                        And goodbye to you. We are already here ourselves. No, but you can help with the pluses if that winkSuddenly we will not be able to cope as with "Bayraktars" laughing
        2. Intruder
          Intruder 16 January 2021 21: 29
          0
          Any technique can be network-centric if that.
          but not every technique is suitable for this :)
      4. Semenov
        Semenov 16 January 2021 10: 23
        +14
        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Praise be to the Almighty that such scoundrels are mainly on the forums and sit

        Unfortunately, these scoundrels are still in office. How much has already been promised?
    2. Hermit21
      Hermit21 16 January 2021 07: 25
      +9
      Here we are talking specifically about the T-90M. In general, ESU TK has been introduced for several years and is used in the same Syria.
      Such a system is all over the world yesterday!

      Such loud statements need something to support
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 16 January 2021 07: 32
        -7
        Hermit21 -Look at the results of military exercises in the United States for 10 -12 years ago -there the centric network was already in the order of things! As in the NATO bloc in recent years! They even drive into the swamp collectively, because the information goes to all equipment at the range at once, from one source, and this source there can be any combat unit!
        1. Hermit21
          Hermit21 16 January 2021 07: 57
          +3
          NATO is not the whole world. And I doubt all member countries are connected to a single system
          1. Intruder
            Intruder 16 January 2021 21: 31
            0
            NATO is not the whole world.
            but more than half, developed countries ... repeat
        2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 16 January 2021 09: 04
          +3
          Quote: Thrifty
          look at the results of military exercises in the United States for 10 -12 years ago - there the network centric was already in the order of things! As in the NATO bloc in recent years!

          I do not like to climb into such discussions, but the same French had an unpleasant experience of using their electronic filling in Leclerc at the 1995 parade. Now they banally turn off such events.
          Military tablets of the commander of a tank platoon for the exchange of information at the level of "platoon-company" were used in the second Chechen company, moreover, in the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia and on T-62 tanks.
          1. The eye of the crying
            The eye of the crying 16 January 2021 13: 56
            0
            And what did these tablets do?
            1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
              Kote Pan Kokhanka 16 January 2021 15: 42
              0
              Map binding, up to 25 control objects. Swingable tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, location, turret rotation. It was possible to broadcast the image of an external camera. The command tablet also broadcast the light pen marks on the electronic map.
              "62" differed from the linear ones in a black block (with a suitcase) at the end of the aft niche of the tower with three antennas.
              1. The eye of the crying
                The eye of the crying 16 January 2021 18: 45
                0
                Looks like an automated paper card (i.e. the data is for human consumption only). And the article, as far as I understand, deals with the exchange of data between the BIUS of different machines.
              2. hydrox
                hydrox 17 January 2021 14: 00
                0
                This is unacceptable: there is no electronic body, even if it does not make decisions on the combat use of weapons (it is too early to talk about this), then at least it offers an acceptable number of options for the use of weapons, moreover, options for using weapons. winning.
                The fact is that a second becomes a vector unit characterizing a situational change in the battlefield situation, and a person does not know how to make decisions at such a speed.
                Therefore, debriefing will reveal all those winning situations that were not used and who will be to blame? - Commander making decisions. - After a week of war, all armies using network centrics will be left without commanders.
        3. lucul
          lucul 16 January 2021 12: 22
          +2
          Hermit21 -Look at the results of military exercises in the United States for 10 -12 years ago -there the centric network was already in the order of things!

          Show me - where was the target designation for tanks from external sources?
          1. Sanichsan
            Sanichsan 16 January 2021 21: 38
            -1
            Quote: lucul
            Show me - where was the target designation for tanks from external sources?

            I don’t know about the tanks, but on the last "red flag" the aviators had! there, the F-35, with its optoelectronic system, detected the launch of an enemy missile and reported to the F-16 by radio that they had been shot at him and he was now pindyk wassat what a network centrism! good
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 17 January 2021 14: 04
              0
              Quote: SanichSan
              what a network centrism!

              If this is network-centrism, then it will be possible to live without electronic warfare with air defense and missile defense, but at the same time be left without aviation! laughing laughing
              1. Sanichsan
                Sanichsan 17 January 2021 15: 51
                -1
                don't underestimate the enemy wink let's be objective, the USA has individual samples of equipment able to work in a single information space. for example F-35 can, some series of Abrams ... but these are separate samples. they are not divisions and armies. so far, these are only experiments and seem to be not very successful. even the American budget is not rubber and they do not pull such a program request
        4. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 16 January 2021 19: 47
          +1
          look at the results of military exercises in the United States for 10 -12 years ago .... the whole world laughed especially when, at the end of the 18th year, during the exercise Trident, the landing ship abandoned its assigned tasks, the marines landed but the equipment never arrived. tanks were blocked by local farmers, because there is no need to chop the autobahns with gusli, and at the end they drowned a Norwegian frigate ....... a wonderful network centric ... and yes, at that time, large-scale exercises were carried out to transfer the RF Armed Forces after which Stoltenberg said the words "we still need to learn and learn from the Russians" .... this is how it is the fortune of the network centric
    3. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 16 January 2021 11: 50
      +2
      Quote: Thrifty
      What the forum was shouted about for three hundred years in a row, only now they tried to put it into practice!

      We originally had a data exchange system between aircraft on the MiG-31. And it has been produced since 1975.
      1. The eye of the crying
        The eye of the crying 16 January 2021 13: 58
        0
        Voice communication can also be called a "data exchange system" smile
        1. VO3A
          VO3A 16 January 2021 18: 32
          0
          Yeah and flags in the Red Army on tanks from the hatch, and flags on sailing ships from the time of Columbus ...
          1. The eye of the crying
            The eye of the crying 16 January 2021 18: 45
            0
            What are we talking about. Those. without specifying what and what data is exchanged - just advertising noise.
            1. svp67
              svp67 16 January 2021 18: 55
              +1
              Quote: Eye of the Crying
              Those. without specifying what and what data is exchanged - just advertising noise.

              Do you want a specific list? Well, it's not difficult to understand, these machines, united in a single command network, are capable of transmitting information about their position on the ground, if necessary, broadcast to the command post a television image received from optoelectronic observation devices, as well as graphic information from the commander's tablet. ..
              1. The eye of the crying
                The eye of the crying 16 January 2021 18: 57
                0
                Well, the article doesn't say that directly. And the fact that this is an exchange between BIUS is an obvious assumption.
                1. svp67
                  svp67 16 January 2021 20: 47
                  +1
                  Quote: Eye of the Crying
                  obvious assumption.

                  So this has already been implemented on some part of the T-72B3
                  1. VO3A
                    VO3A 16 January 2021 21: 02
                    -1
                    And where are the network-centric capabilities! The shepherd also counts the rams and listens to the bleating, but how does this help to escape from the wolf ?! Here is a substitution of concepts, a complete misunderstanding of existing requirements and realities! It's the same as with AI! They taught the aborigines a beautiful word, so they jump with happiness and repeat it at every corner, and even more beautiful, the expression "with AI elements"! The idiot parade in all its glory ...
                    1. svp67
                      svp67 17 January 2021 09: 30
                      0
                      Quote: VO3A
                      And where are the network-centric capabilities!

                      So, for fun, remember
                      Network centric war (from the English Network-centric warfare) - the concept of warfare, in which all participants in hostilities (command, military equipment, manpower) united into a single information network.
                      Quote: VO3A
                      Taught the beautiful word of the aborigines

                      It remains for you to understand what this word means
                      1. VO3A
                        VO3A 17 January 2021 13: 44
                        -1
                        Nice to deal with a sharper! You've lost the main part of the definition!
                        ensuring the delivery of reliable and complete information about the situation in real time to the participants of operations [5].

                        And you only get blind rams in a herd, and in this you see, it turns out, the whole main point, like many ...
                      2. svp67
                        svp67 17 January 2021 13: 53
                        +1
                        Quote: VO3A
                        Nice to deal with a sharper!

                        Not for me. Thank you for warning about your sin ... would you give up ...
                        Quote: VO3A
                        And you only get blind rams in a herd, and in this you see, it turns out, the whole main point, like many ...

                        Forgive me, but either you don't understand something, or you try to distort everything on purpose. Although, they themselves confessed to "cheating" ...
                        So the tank commander has an electronic tablet where he receives the information he needs, including the commands of the senior commander and changes in the tactical situation
                      3. VO3A
                        VO3A 17 January 2021 13: 57
                        0
                        Where does your senior commander get reliable information about the enemy to make a decision? From the same tank commander? Also in real time ?! I say that you have a herd! ..
                        Have you forgotten with whom you exchange opinions? So fast ? And is this one of the active and advanced forum participants? I gave the definition immediately in the 1st comment to the article ...
                      4. svp67
                        svp67 17 January 2021 14: 02
                        0
                        Quote: VO3A
                        Where does your senior commander get reliable information about the enemy to make a decision? From the same tank commander? Also in real time ?! I say that you have a herd!

                        Well, you really are a "schuller" ... Want to find out the "terrible military Secret". So I won't reveal anything to you ... And so it has long been known that our troops have a lot of reconnaissance assets, including a sufficient number of light reconnaissance UAVs. Well, whoever, but in Ukraine, they should be well aware of this, and according to the results of counter-battery firing and looking from the "boilers"
                      5. VO3A
                        VO3A 17 January 2021 14: 04
                        0
                        I see again a surge of, so to speak, ancient wisdom, to put it mildly! You at least read all my comments to this article, please ... So that you have no doubts ...
                      6. svp67
                        svp67 17 January 2021 14: 14
                        0
                        Quote: VO3A
                        You at least read all my comments to this article, please ...

                        Agreed, but you are the same ...
                      7. VO3A
                        VO3A 17 January 2021 14: 22
                        +1
                        UgoChaves (Sergey Trotsenko) Yesterday, 11:12

                        Quiet, that everyone was making noise ... Now VOSA will come and say that all this is a hat, and the generals are rubbing stupid glasses on us
                      8. svp67
                        svp67 17 January 2021 14: 23
                        -1
                        Quote: VO3A
                        UgoChaves (Sergey Trotsenko) Yesterday, 11:12

                        Good characteristics from "namesake"
                        But for a good specialist, you make too many mistakes in the simplest definitions and in understanding the processes themselves.
                      9. VO3A
                        VO3A 17 January 2021 18: 40
                        -1
                        Who are you to judge me? Can you imagine who you are arguing with? Better keep your conclusions and "Wishlist" of the evaluation plan with you! On the subject, your views and assessments!
                        I repeat again:
                        I see again a surge of, so to speak, ancient wisdom, to put it mildly!

                        I think there is no need to clarify how this phrase sounds in the original!
                      10. venik
                        venik 17 January 2021 21: 32
                        +1
                        Quote: VO3A
                        Who are you to judge me? Can you imagine who you are arguing with?

                        =========
                        Well, WITH WHOM?
                      11. VO3A
                        VO3A 17 January 2021 21: 34
                        -1
                        And what, "the country does not know its heroes"?
                        On the topic, your views and assessments!
  • Bad_gr
    Bad_gr 16 January 2021 20: 52
    0
    Quote: Eye of the Crying
    Well, the article doesn't say that directly. And the fact that this is an exchange between BIUS is an obvious assumption.

    Written by
    Russian T-90M tanks were united into a single network during the exercises. The Ministry of Defense has tested the T-90M "Breakthrough" tanks for the ability to operate in a single information space as part of a network-centric combat training operation ...

    And what's not clear?
  • Intruder
    Intruder 16 January 2021 21: 32
    0
    Yeah and flags in the Red Army on tanks from the hatch, and flags on sailing ships from the time of Columbus ...
    smoke bonfires, on mountain ranges and pigeon mail to boot :)
  • Sanichsan
    Sanichsan 16 January 2021 21: 40
    -1
    Quote: VO3A
    Yeah and flags in the Red Army

    glad to see that you are in great pain bully
  • lucul
    lucul 16 January 2021 12: 16
    +1
    Such a system is all over the world yesterday!

    What do you mean. And can you list by country, target designation of tanks from external sources? )))
  • VO3A
    VO3A 16 January 2021 14: 00
    0
    But not in Russia, or rather in the RA, ESU TK !!! There is an opportunity to exchange information, but it is not clear what information and how? It looks like this is a New Year's fabulous source !!! There are tank counting systems and a command transmission system, they can figure out how to count the shells and the remaining fuel, but it is not clear how this will help to fight and win ??? Somewhere it already happened! In "Warrior"! But at least there is a funny "Sagittarius" with binoculars for target designation, as much as a whole, huge 8 km, during the day! .. But in all these systems of accounting and command transmission there is no information and reconnaissance component ... These are not network-centric systems, this is their pathetic similarity! The author and source was even afraid to use the word UAV! Probably because even UAVs are not integrated into this system, there is no such possibility, we do not know how, it is not provided for by organizational structures! Hello oralists and fakecomets and their "cons"!
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 16 January 2021 21: 36
      0
      These are not network-centric systems, this is their pathetic excuse! The author and source was even afraid to use the word UAV! Probably because even UAVs are not integrated into this system, there is no such possibility, we do not know how, it is not provided for by organizational structures.
      Well, everything, again the whole truth ..., brought to the surface!? :) To integrate UAVs, they first need to be built and at the same time massively, and then already equipped with communications, and with the first and second in RA, there are already problems in complete growth, so while (only T-90) digital radio communication has been inserted into the armor, at least they have done something ...
      1. VO3A
        VO3A 16 January 2021 23: 09
        0
        Well no ! These systems should have been made yesterday! There is everything for this! Of course, maybe not the most advanced, but combat-ready and effective, even if at first even in local conflicts! I'm 100% sure of that! Where do the requirements for UAVs come from, depending on the tactics of use and their integration into target designation systems! But if you make a simple UAV, they will always be bad and not so! To do something, you need to know what you want! And here there is not even a concept! ... Why did ESU TZ "Constellation-M" die? They did not know what they were building, the requirements changed, mutually excluded each other ... the country lost 20 years, the stupid generals got completely confused and decided that network-centric systems were not needed, because they were vulnerable to electronic warfare ... They were supported by talented scientists ... As a result, an army with advanced armaments does not know how to fight, or rather it fights with antediluvian methods and is going to stack soldiers for a grain of information about the enemy ...
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 16 January 2021 23: 43
          0
          going to stack the soldiers for a grain of information about the enemy ...
          well, it's easy to make up, some 17-18 years old and you're done! :) it's not a tricky business, to raise the "family capital" by a couple of tens of thousands ... and new stacks are ready ...
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 16 January 2021 07: 03
    0
    You cannot master such a tank perfectly in a year, the future belongs to the contract soldiers. And this is good. We are growing slowly! "Now it’s definitely a Khan to the Balts!" Who is there to talk to us from a position of strength? wassat drinks good
    1. Runway
      Runway 16 January 2021 08: 40
      +3
      It is mastered like two fingers on the asphalt. KBP for conscripts must be "finished". Only.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 16 January 2021 08: 49
        0
        Right in the drift, the mechanic drive enters the turn? I have a mechanic drive on an armored personnel carrier 50 PUM only in the second year began to arrange Paris Dakar.
        1. Runway
          Runway 16 January 2021 08: 56
          +2
          Double - change the KBP.
          On the fingers - 3 and 4 training periods with a two-year urgent there is a copy of 1 and 2 (repetition is the mother of learning).
          Morality in the intensity of the BP up to the level of the company (the battalion has some mattechnical difficulties, with it it is possible to drive KSHU in all types of combat, special conditions, weather and climatic conditions).
        2. Intruder
          Intruder 16 January 2021 21: 37
          0
          mechanic on the BTR 50 PUM only in the second year began to arrange Paris Dakar.
          at the tankodrome !? :)))
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 16 January 2021 23: 27
            +1
            No, on the German paving stones and the German Autobahn. He has such a joke, all the noise back on the concrete, the colonels scattered from under the tracks. And to the reserve area along the soggy road, according to the principle of muddy mud, see how we can! Only the 60 armored personnel carriers slowed down, it was only necessary to pull them out.
            1. Intruder
              Intruder 16 January 2021 23: 45
              0
              No, on German paving stones and the German Autobahn
              You had a fun time, just destroyers of European road infrastructure .., tin :)))
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 17 January 2021 00: 07
                0
                From above you can see well, the mechanic drive in a turn into a skid, as soon as the front is equal to the road where to go, gas to the floor, sparks from under the caterpillars and flew where we need to. But since it didn't work out when turning left, the friction clutch on a straight road got oiled, only They turned slightly to the left and into the oncoming lane, and there was a crowd of Trabants, the eyes of the Germans were all over the windshield, when they realized what a fool was flying at them, since the mechanic was oriented, the left lever squeezed with all the foolishness with both hands, his eyes crawled out of the mechanic's hatch from the strain ,, a meter from the Trabants we flew, the entire autobahn fence was demolished, and then they stopped in a ditch with all the foolishness, and then they slowly crawled out in reverse and followed the battalion commander on the UAZ, but they did not create a traffic jam, the half of the division was following us. serious alarm from the park to the bypass were opened only with a battering ram, if the service platoon did not have time to open it in advance. While we rush through the fields, they restore the gates after the entire battalion of tanks passed through them or make new ones.
                1. Intruder
                  Intruder 17 January 2021 23: 30
                  0
                  An interesting story, bravo ... :))) I hope more structures in Eastern Europe, except for the fence and the gate, have not suffered !? :))) From the gloomy Soviet mechanized drivers ...
                  1. tralflot1832
                    tralflot1832 18 January 2021 01: 08
                    +1
                    Autobahns suffered! It must be seen in the first person!
                    1. Intruder
                      Intruder 18 January 2021 07: 44
                      0
                      it must be seen in the first person!
                      hmm :) now you won't see anything like that ... but it's a pity, just like the morning "exercise" IL-28 RTR, in the sky of Eastern Europe ... :)
    2. VO3A
      VO3A 16 January 2021 14: 47
      -2
      You cannot master such a tank perfectly in a year, the future belongs to the contract soldiers. And this is good. We are growing slowly! "Now it’s definitely a Khan to the Balts!" Who is there to talk to us from a position of strength?

      One unobtrusive pi_ndosky UAV detects a tank column, if there are mobile air defense systems, they are destroyed with the help of an attack UAV, and 4 Apaches with missiles with a range of up to 18 km, remotely destroy all tanks and other equipment with impunity! There is a similar video on YouTube about the US war in Iraq back in 2003 ....
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 16 January 2021 16: 48
        +1
        Compared, now the troops are saturated with air defense systems. Yes, and we will close the lag in the UAV. Ours are already training to strike with might and main at the UAV control centers.
        1. VO3A
          VO3A 16 January 2021 18: 35
          0
          Buy toy quadcopters in the store and transfer to the army and close the gap! Closer !!! They have been training to throw dust in their eyes for 20 years, and everything is in one place, more precisely in one place ...
          1. Intruder
            Intruder 16 January 2021 21: 47
            +1
            Buy toy quadcopters in the store and transfer to the army and close the gap! Closer !!!
            Duc, instructors need to be taught, since youth - to hold all kinds of sports competitions, to open model aircraft circles as it was in the Union, personally at two went: model aircraft and rocket model and for free .., it was a golden time, though there were not enough engines on the model, I dreamed of GN, find compression by 2,5 cubes under the tree ... and when I found it, the planet lost me for three months until April :)))
      2. Intruder
        Intruder 16 January 2021 21: 56
        +1
        , they are destroyed with a strike UAV, and 4 Apaches with missiles with a range of up to 18 km
        it is possible to fall asleep with parasites, so as not to raise the Apaches to a tank column, the guys from Milrem Robotics are doing their best:
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 16 January 2021 07: 30
    +1
    But such things are already nice to hear, I hope in 10-15 years they will test the integrated command and control of the armed forces for the conduct of hostilities with the involvement of all combat arms. That is to say, network-centric b / d management.
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 16 January 2021 07: 35
      0
      Ros56 Does the country have these 10 years? You have to move, otherwise remember "if tomorrow is war," but we only have a run-in, and not mass adoption. ..
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 16 January 2021 07: 42
        -1
        I think there are more, as long as the striped ones of the revolutionaries lol will clean up or just stupidly fight among themselves, the geyropa will sit like a mouse under a broom.
        1. Thrifty
          Thrifty 16 January 2021 08: 17
          0
          Ros56 - only the United States is the mouse that someone else's broom calls its own, and pulls its hole. .. lol
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 16 January 2021 09: 12
            +1
            Well, there is also a club on this topic. After all, the striped ones are not so scary as they lie about themselves. They are very skillful in using deceitful information dumps and, in fact, sometimes armed forces. But .... as an example to you, Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea, finally, and even Venezuela, and something did not grow together with them. Russia survived after the 90s, got stronger and now striped teeth gnash on this topic, because we will not let them devour anyone. So they are furious, but what is their political elite worth, deceitful, corrupt and sometimes stupid, you have already seen on the example of evaluating the actions of blacks and Trump.
            1. Orkraider
              Orkraider 16 January 2021 12: 35
              0
              Russia survived after the 90s, got stronger and now striped teeth gnash on this topic, because we will not let them devour anyone. So they are furious, but what is their political elite worth, deceitful, corrupt and sometimes stupid, you have already seen on the example of evaluating the actions of blacks and Trump


              Greetings!
              She survived, but they are trying to finish her again according to the old scheme, from the inside. For a part of the population, it is clear that America and Britain are our enemies, and for a part: they include popular dolls on YouTube, with cheap speech "the United States of America is to blame for everything," and parodies of our leaders ... bulk, sable and others.
              Alas...
              Regularly, from the inside, they destroy our state and our Motherland, preventing it from developing, and “the idiots are happy about this, how is the“ blessed ”West - ugh, it takes anger ..
              As much as I do not like our Grefs, Kudrins and others - you cannot wish harm to your country, you cannot go through it again to the ground, we need not to be touched, then we ourselves will sort out our problems.
              And I believe: Sooner or later, from the taiga to the British seas, our Motherland will be stronger than everyone else. hi

              Regarding the T-90M, I am waiting for information on the modernization of the current fleet, I think that this news is a good signal, since the ESU TK has been approved, now more active work will begin. I suppose, more actively, modernization will go
      2. lucul
        lucul 16 January 2021 12: 23
        0
        Ros56 Does the country have these 10 years?

        Is there a country that can go against Russia? ))))
        1. VO3A
          VO3A 17 January 2021 16: 01
          -1
          Is there a country that can go against Russia?

          A very good question! There is strategic parity! There will be no winners in a nuclear war. Russia has made great advances in new types of nuclear weapons! This is an issue that senior management is paying close attention to ....
          But you can get a strategic defeat through losses in small local conflicts, especially near the borders of Russia! Through the discontent and loss of faith of ordinary performers. This defeat is associated with the dominance of US information technology in combined arms combat ... But many do not understand this! That is why there are such heated discussions about the absence of Combat Information Systems (network-centric) in RA! There is not even a concept of such systems in Russia. Dominates the idea of ​​some kind of global information network that unites everything! This is a pe_ndo approach and it has a number of significant drawbacks, but they have practical experience that has been worked out and really works! The last "APACH", for example, the program of interaction with the UAV, worked in full volume back in 2013 ... And we have the interaction of the test sample "Hunter" with the, almost absent in the troops, single (without an operator) Su-57 is presented as greatest achievement! Funny, to tears ...
    2. VO3A
      VO3A 16 January 2021 21: 09
      0
      Dear!
      integrated control of the armed forces for the conduct of hostilities with the involvement of all types of troops.

      Has nothing to do with network-centric b / d management.
      You at least define the concepts !!! I have given above for people like you a definition and indicated the capabilities of network-centric systems ...
  • Ugochaves
    Ugochaves 16 January 2021 11: 12
    +3
    Quiet, that everyone was making noise ... Now VOSA will come and say that all this is a hat, and the generals are rubbing stupid glasses on us wassat
  • Fidel
    Fidel 16 January 2021 17: 07
    -1
    Good thing. And the news is good. I'll go get some vodka)) drinks
  • Gunther
    Gunther 16 January 2021 20: 45
    0
    Quote: dauria
    I'll tell you a secret, they rushed for vodka.

    Huh. If I tell you, the devil will believe. Mi-2 in Dauria "sat down" in front of the wine and vodka general store to buy. The place is empty, no poles, no wires. Studied in advance a hundred times. laughing There are a couple of kilometers to the airfield. Do not go on foot. And the flights were planned.

    A filthy broom should drive such ethanol and other drugs, there is no place for them, drugs, in my opinion in the army - let them booze in civilian life, so there will be less harm from them
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 16 January 2021 21: 36
      0
      Quote: Gunter
      Quote: dauria
      I'll tell you a secret, they rushed for vodka.

      Huh. If I tell you, the devil will believe. Mi-2 in Dauria "sat down" in front of the wine and vodka general store to buy. The place is empty, no poles, no wires. Studied in advance a hundred times. laughing There are a couple of kilometers to the airfield. Do not go on foot. And the flights were planned.

      A filthy broom should drive such ethanol and other drugs, there is no place for them, drugs, in my opinion in the army - let them booze in civilian life, so there will be less harm from them

      And if in essence !!!? Instead of angry finger pointing at the phone. Kerazachi on their feet and in a recruiting office under a contract - to teach milk suckers! Weak !!!?
  • storm
    storm 24 January 2021 06: 17
    0
    In fact, the Ministry of Defense was "late" with their purchase by 10 years, by 2021, modern T-90s should have already constituted 50 percent of MBT, and the UVZ conveyor should have switched to the Armata platform.

    Entered the troops until 2017. T-72B3 (about 700 units) can be safely transferred to the category of TRAINING AND COMBAT.

    Entered the troops since 2017. T-72 B3M in the amount of 600-700 units. is now the most modern and combat-ready, but firstly it is only 20-25% of the tank fleet of the Armed Forces, and secondly, their modernization potential has already been practically exhausted.